I fucking hate the generations before mine. I just turned a

>>730763375
Yeah. You're the first generation to get fucked by the ones before you. You are special and your failures are totally not your fault.

Choke to death on a dick.

>>730763375
We had a balanced budget with a surplus under Clinton in 1999, Bush ran up the debt in the trillions and Obama didn't help.

>>730763630
Someone else thought that it'd be a bad idea to let the president have line item veto.

The justices who decided that should be shot.

>>730763547
I know my generation is not the first, and certainly not the last, but I'm staring the financial collapse of the US in the fucking face and it looks like my parents' generation isn't going to do shit about it.

>>730763630
Oh no...politicians are retarded peices of shit? I never knew. Your so wise and insightful.

>>730763977
not wise an insightful, the OP made an incorrect statement and I was correcting it.

>>730763630
Correct. OP is a product of two mongoloids.

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Clean your room and for god's sake sort yourself out OP

>>730763907
>and it looks like my parents' generation isn't going to do shit about it.

what do you expect them to do about it?

>>730763375
>28 year olds
>looking forward to Social Security
Nigger, you are the reason people think kids are dumb.

Nice bait thread, though.

>>730763375
>Inequality
Legal rights have never been more on par with each other than they are right now. Gay marriage, 'member?

>Self-doubt/uncertainty

That shit is within you. Don't blame others for your shortcomings, faggot.

>Student Debt, Shitty Jobs, and Unemployment

Pay it? Or just don't go to school. If jobs are so hard to come by even with a degree, then don't get a degree. Fuckin..go into skilled labor or something. Pipe fitters and welders make shit loads of money, no degree required. Bus tables if you have to. Just don't be a whiny drain like you're being. I've never seen a waiter with a smile and nice personality and thought, "Oh, they have a shitty life. They're a waiter."

The issue is you.

Signed, someone 10 years older than you.

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Don't worry OP. The old sacks of fuck are already losing their grip on reality and power enough that some more insightful and freedom loving people can join into the system and allow progress in many of the ways which are stifled right now. Try to keep your head up, try to keep looking forward for something better, don't give up.

>>730763375
Fuck off you whinny faggot.

>>730763375
future generations will hate you too. it's the circle of life.

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>>730765395 See you're exactly what OP is talking about. You re-adjusted your go to meme-job that was popular in 04 into welding and *cough* "pipe-fitters" so now your mental view of how fast the world is changing and how secure things are into just another re-interpretation that doesn't actually help with the true message of what OP is talking about. Honestly do you have any idea of what you're talking about and do you have any idea how it is for people growing up now in any part of the world to even understand how thin a veil of security exists for anyone?

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OP here.

I understand I'm not 100% correct.

I also acknowledge that every generation hates the one before it.

I just needed to scream into the ether tonight.

Shitty day and all that

>>730765983
Samefag. Prove me wrong.

>>730765395

/Fucking thread

>>730765395
OP here. Image was not mine. Had nothing that wasn't a meme about suicide on hand so had to find something. Other than that though, anything >>730765983 didn't address I see your side on.

>>730765983
So to boil your argument down..
"It's hard, ya know?"

>>730766868 Ya, can I have a hug please?

>>730763375

don't blame us Gen X'ers. Shit was fucked by the time I got here. I blame the baby boomers, they're like the biggest most fucked up asshole generation of all time.

>>730763375
>18
>we were 5.5 trillion in debt then

classic whining millennial
should have been born in a non-shit country fam. our young people are fine.

>>730763375
I'm 10 years older than you an in exactly the same position.

Expand your griping to those that are 20 years older than you, you little faggot.

>>730765983

things have always been hard. They're easier now than ever, and people complain about it more than ever.

Read a history book about life before the advent of modern medicine. Read about Life in Roman times.

Quit being such a little bitch.

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>>730763375

btw, if you were born in 1981 or later you are a mellenial. Just in case there are idiots who think they are not.

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>>730763375

poor you

If people still had to grow and hunt their own food, this whiny shit wouldn't be a problem.

>>730767395

I was born in 1981 and the term "millennial didn't popup until the late 90's.

They used to call us "gen X" or "gen y"

>>730766295
Cheer up. At least you're not a nigger.

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>>730767499

seriously, these kids have it so good they don't know what struggle is. Their like zoo animals complaining about the food while their cousins back in africa are getting their faces torn off by crocodiles.

>>730766971
This

>>730763375
You fucking faggots come out of the womb bitching and complaining about how bad your life is. Guess what? You've got between 60-100 years to actually do something with your god damn ass. If you're so self-righteous and pissed off at the world, why don't you do something about it instead of complaining?

Fucking millennial man. I hate my OWN generation. You're all a bunch of lazy gimmie-gimmie pussies who can't handle the fact that constant failure is the way to success.

Doesn't matter anyway. Most of us will be killed in the next war.

I really hope you learn to stop using universal and broad speech like this, otherwise you're going to be the one someone like you is complaining about in ten years.

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>>730763375

>>730767395
>>730767549

I was born in '88 and have been referred to as Gen Y my whole life. But if this guy calls me a millennial, I guess I am. I bet he was born in '80. People born in '80 are so smart.

>>730765395
You never looked at a waiter and thought "Man, that must be a shit job"

You're not very introspective or empathetic, apparently.

The ideal scenario for being a waiter, where you take orders, retrieve food, maybe refill drinks, and pick up your tip, isn't that bad; It's the little things that make it fucking awful. Working 12 hour shifts and pretending to not be exhausted the entire time, smiling and bantering with customers that you have to strain to remember if they've ever eaten there before and if they'll be offended if you don't recognize them, and remembering who ordered what. Pretending that you're deeply contrite when a customer complains that their steak is medium, not medium-rare, and that you're not getting a tip because of something that's the cook's fault.

Being a waiter sucks balls.

>>730767777
Quads of truth

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>>730767240 Hold up, you hate when people talk about shit like this! Well I talked to my past life's and they say that there's actually far more problems and stresses in the world than there has ever been. That what you view as an ease actually accumulates into some sort of mental stresses being even more hash than if we were all naked in the woods together, but then we would create this! Hah! PAST LIFES! WAT UP NIGGAS

Honestly, life is relative to those living it, their socio-economic status, their genetics and I mean like mental issues here, and their environment and how much it allows them to prosper happily. Obviously you could cherry pick out people who had it fucked up in every year more so than others. It does not mean that this intellectual bureaucratic mess which, and I assume, US children, teens, young adults growing up have to deal with is any bit less shitty than the conditions you were in. The existential haste of the world today is so fucking hard to handle that I bet no matter how old you're currently some or a lot of your response is a result of you feeling it just as much as the young people do.

>>730767604
Underrated.

>>730763375
One must imagine Sisyphus happy... oh and ur a faget

>>730767903
It's not my opinion, it's fact. Look it up.

>>730763375
Born same year.
What up faggot.
I'm only seventeen though.

>>730767903
Actually i was born in 87 :\

I don't blame any generation I blame the lazy and the dumb over sensitive easily manipulated people. Oh and just be cause someone might have a degree or higher education doesn't make them smarter. It just means the can do as there told

>>730763375
Holy fuck man up you faggot

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>>730766295

>>730766295
Sorry to hear that, but don't go blaming your elders like some fucking antifa cliche.
That being said. Like is hard, and i understand. I fucked up really bad. Like nigger level bad. Didn't graduate high school, and had a kid at 22. I lived with a buddy for a couple months spent that time getting a shit construction job $8 an hour(pure luck), and riding the bus till I could afford a shitty apartment, where i became a single dad with full custody, (mom was a meth addict, and graduated to heroine) and was lucky enough to have been in - and maintained - a friend zone relationship with a girl who became a mom, and agreed to watch my kid for free, till i got a better job, and began paying her for that. Now I do x-ray inspections on oil line welds and do really well. $23.58/hr, Benies, nice-ish car, bitch envy. Pull your (what i assume to be) childless, crazy bitch-free, head out of your faggot ass.

>>730763630
>We had a balanced budget with a surplus under Clinton in 1999, Bush ran up the debt in the trillions and Obama didn't help.
Kind of.
We were still in debt. There was only a "surplus" in the sense that for four consecutive years the government spent less than budgeted for each of those individual fiscal years. The difference in actual vs projected spending resulted in a "surplus" on paper, though in actuality, the national debt was already in the trillions at that point.

>>730767777

>"wahhhh fuck you for being mad I'm mad now"

strongly consider suicide

>>730768138
banned

>>730768164
what a newfag
>86 reporting in

>>730767912
I have been a waiter. Being a good waiter isn't difficult. You are right about keeping a smile on your face while wishing to throttle some pie-faced amoeba-man who's complaining about ice in his drink being too cold. He actually did. But I know when someone is going to be alright by hold they handle people, how they handle themselves. A waiter with a shit attitude is more going to spark the thoughts that that person has a shitty life. I never said the job wasn't shitty. My point was DO SOMETHING regardless of what it is but don't bitch while doing it. Only bitches bitch.

>>730768279
Which is probably a good indicator of willingness and ability to work in a professional environment or, barring that, socioeconomic status great enough to start their own business venture, with the acumen and drive to ensure its success.

Nobody gives a shit about the Einsteins sitting on their porches smoking weed because they're "too smart for school."

>>730767240
Noting the difficulty of life in Medieval times may be better. The Romans were actually more advanced in the field of surgery than we thought, having tools such as cataract removal needles. Then Medieval times hit and medical knowledge somehow moved backward for a while.

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>>730763375
>1999 - we were 5.5 trillion in debt then.
>then pumped up the national debt to 17 trillion
shhh, don't tell anyone

>>730768414
>Anonymous
86 here

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>>730763375
The last good generation was the Greatest Generation.

The boomers are spoiled brats that never gew up.

Gen X are idiots that were raised by spoiled brats and their entire identity is based on rebelling against their parents.

Millenials are struggling to just survive, and after their parents sent them all to daycare, millenials have the highest rate of sever emotional disorders in American history. Millenials are locking them into trying to fix the problem the only way their parents ever taught them; lash out at anything and everything. That's why Nationalists, and Communist Trash are brawling in the streets.

Generation Z is the most conservative since the Greatest Generation. They might be the last group to save this nation. I hope that by the time I'm an old man, I can look at Gen Z, and be proud.

>>730768776
hey bro.
is being 30 as generally shitty for you as it is for me?

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>>730765528
Yeah. That'll happen.

>>730767996

When there was no anesthesia for surgery

When there was no dinner if you didn't kill it

When marauding hoards kill you and rape your wife and sell your children into slavery

When it's kill or be killed

That was a life with problems. All our problems now are like "oooh i pay 3% too much in interest, ohh i think two men should be allowed to do a fake magic ceremony and wear jewelry legally, oooh la la la la de da

>>730763375
Honestly the only people I see have trouble through college and finding a job are the people who are in journalism, photography, computer arts, well basically all the weeabo jobs

Had friends do a viarety of college degrees and all I see them is successful, from Medicine to being a lawyer

Just did a CNA course last year and I'm making $17 as a private home are CNA as a part time job while I'm done with my Paramedic course, hell I already got a job offer for $20 an hour after I'm done

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>>730768888
Ayyyy

>>730768888
checked
everything in this post is now unquestionably true

>>730768629
That's fair.

If I get a cunty waiter or waitress, I don't think "oh they must have a just terrible life or must be having a very bad day." I think "This person is a cunt and is providing terrible service."

>>730768888
Quads of truth again, the Mods smile upon thee.

>>730768888 Do you honestly believe it's harder, or just in your mind? Would you rather be thrown into the woods alone for 10 years or be in seclusion for 24 hours a day for 10 years?

>>730763375
I stared the depression in 07-08 in the face right as I got out of high school. Everyone has gotten shafted since 9/11. It's those that are 30 years older that are the dicks. Ten years older are just trying to stay afloat.

>>730768843
Nah have good job make 42 an hour negotiate work pace with manager. Very little drama. Just worried that there might be more with all these crazy kids acting up nowadays

>>730763375
I fucking hate the generation after mine. I'll be 33 this year and I've been working 70+ hour weeks for 5 years now to finally get a foot in the door at a decent company.
You're afraid to fucking work to achieve success. You think that a fucking diploma entitles you to an executive level position. You don't possess the social skills necessary to do well in life because you spend too much time circle jerking on your phones. I'm trying not to use the word entitled, but a lot of you are. You just wanna coast through life and think somehow, magically, you'll be able to achieve it without work ethic.
Tl;dr Millennials are a bunch of lazy, entitled, non committal socially inept children. Fuck all of them.

>>730768116
I've never seen such a polar phrase. So philosophic and then so shitpost.

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>>730763375
They sold your future long before you were born

>>730769379
oh yeah, that side of life is fine. got a girlfriend, got a house, decent job that pays well.

more that my body is starting to genuinely fuck up. easy to put on weight, knees are starting to creak, shit like that. feels like the start of the slide down.

>>730769082
There is an interesting balance though.

In those harsh times, everything was YOUR responsibility.

If you needed surgery, you were probably going to die regardless, but since living past 30 was rather rare anyways, nobody felt it was a great tragedy when someone died "young."

If you didn't have food, it's because you didn't farm it or kill it. It wasn't because some great economic monster decided you didn't get to have food. At worst, the weather might make it hard to get a decent harvest, but there are still other avenues to get food in that event. Before the idea of "private land" and "hunting limits" and all that shit, it was only the sickly that failed to eat.

>>730768888
Quads, though check'd, don't make shit true. This shit is true on it's fucking own. Based shit, bro.

>>730769463
I don't think you've been working 70 hour weeks. Sitting at a desk and twiddling your thumbs for an extra 4 hours doesn't count as work.

>>730769676 Fair points, I wish you talked more about the balance but I guess you wanted to defend your side of the issue more. Anyways, I am headed out wish me luck m8 I am trying to catch some fish called "rum" and apparently there's a lot around here so I should be able to get a kill in. <3

>>730767604
top fucking kek
>inb4 OP is in fact a nigger

>>730768285
Retarded republican fuckwit detected
Why don't you go pull yourself up by your bootstraps or some shit?

>>730763375
You do realize it's the SJW generation (yours) which wants more entitlements, right? And those have to come from somewhere.

If Hillary had gotten in, you would have seen the national debt skyrocket like never before.

>>730767777
>lazy gimmie-gimmie pussies
That's the boomers, dude.

>>730770386
Trust me, if Hillary had gotten in, there would be no difference whatsoever.
Everyone knows elections are only held to make the people think they have a choice.

Op, you still here? I'm beginning to suspect that you were a retro-blamer shill whose arguments were defused.

>>730770337
How am I republican hahaha

>>730770044
I would say the balance is that, back then, things weren't rigidly scheduled.

You didn't have to be up at a certain time, be somewhere at a certain time, do a particular task for a certain AMOUNT of time, and then have a few hours at the end of the day to decompress before you went to sleep.

Our lives in this modern age are so very routine, so scheduled, so confining, that it's easy to feel like a prisoner. You feel trapped in your own life.

You want to go on vacation? You certainly have the freedom to do so, but what are you sacrificing? In those harsh times, you could fuck off work for a month if your fields were good, or you had your foodstuff preserved. The whole "up at the crack of dawn and working all day" is only true if you have livestock, and "all day" is about 4 hours unless you're preparing a field or harvesting.

So for about 85% of the year, you've got a 4 hour workday that directly benefits you and yours. Not some faceless corporate entity that feeds off your labor, not your manager or your supervisor - everything you do is YOURS.

For now, im doing good. And when i wake up after sleeping things will be fucked again

>>730770039
Not him, but some of us do work 70 hour weeks. It's only seven 10 hour days or six 12 hour days. It sucks for the first month but you get used to it. Summer is coming so my nice 40 hour weeks are going away.

>>730769463
You'll be old and dead and we'll be in control.

Who gives a shit what you think? You're just gonna be another old ass wrinkled dick piece of shit who refuses to adhere to change and give power to the younger group that will control everything you once had.

Every generation is terrible. You just don't want to give up your power. You're like some kind of age-despot except you're terrible at your job.

Also this generation gets laid way more than you ever did and our women are much hotter cunts.

>>730770563
Oh, I don't know, "man up" is something you typically hear from republicans. And I do agree to some extent that people need to harden up a bit,
but you can't really "man up" out of something that can only be interpreted as an existential crisis.

>>730763375
yeah, of course you are rigth, but guess what? some mid age retard would tell you that his father fought against nazis and raise him pretty good, ignoring the fact the old fart was probably a woman beater and an abussive father.

>>730770744
Yeah well don't be a faggot partisan

gen y 26 year old aussie here

>neet
>virgin
>poor
>can get little work (1 day a week 10 hours or so)
>live at home

Yeah yep living the dream bro's

oh wait

>no friends (all normies and ditch me for their numerous loans, children and or go leftist sjw cuckmode)
>Chronically depressed by entire life
>Suicidal the last 3 years
Could be worse i guess i dont have any debt or personal/household debt either but my generation is getting systematically fucked.

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>>730763375

What are 90's kids. Are they gen x? Or y.


Btw i was born in 1990.

No solid future plans. Hsd. Some college. No debts. Uncertain about where to work so unemployed. Just wasting time for no reason.

>>730770783
And that would probably be because he fought in WWII too. Being the greatest generation comes at a price.

>>730769360
Sounds like you defeated yourself. I faced my anxieties and concord them by being stubborn and saying to the situations presented to me fuck you and stomped all over that shit. My baby boomer parents dad told me have a plan when you get into high school and work towards that. I picked what I wanted things changed and I picked something else. But it's easy to just do the blame game and feel sorry for yourself and be comfortable. Are you really in a bad situation or are you just being lazy and comfortable and trying to justify your sad state. Be uncomfortable, I started my career as a machinist then I realized this is not as lucrative as I thought it would be. Now I'm a aerospace painter making 120k average a year. Just try some shit make some good friends and by good friends not the kind that coddle you but real friends that motivate you and build you up. Be a good friend. And make goals

>>730770913
What the fuck am I supposed to be when there's a mouth-breathing retard in every end of the political spectrum, then?

>>730770744
My father was an abusive, alcoholic democrat. He used to shout "man up" and "I didn't raise no bitch" when he ordered me to do something. A phrase is a poor prejudice to hold for a political view.

>>730770942
ur Gen Y

Gen X is mid-late 90s

>>730763375

P.s. whew lad you think school is hard for your generation?? No hope for you. What state are you in? Move to fl where everyone gets a free pass.

>>730771010
You had a plan in high school?

Don't you think it's a little completely fucking retarded that our society wants to decide our ENTIRE life during a time where all we pretty much think about is how to get our dicks wet?

I'm laughing my ass off in this thread. All you "I got it harder than you, shut the fuck up OP" are really funny. Do you eat nails for breakfast as well?

See, what most are missing here is that nobody has even looked at the image and point-for-point argued anything to the contrary. Just "quitcherbitchin'" like ignorant people say.

The most hilarious part is that if you make under a million dollars a year, you are NOT going to make it either. You're all just as fucked as OP is.

If you haven't noticed jobs flying away outsourced, offshore and now automated. Your job is on the chopping block soon enough. You cannot work harder to save your job, you cannot manage your money well enough to escape the coming fall.

Or are you all going to tell me bank failures from 08' were perfectly normal. LOL The elites have you all convinced it's better to attack each other. Rats in a cage attacking each other while the elites laugh their asses off all the way to the bank.

They'll say "thanks for all the tax write-offs, subsidies and bailouts you stupid bitches"

>>730771087
Eh, being a piece of shit like that is more common in republicans. Hence why they're republicans.
I would have broken his fucking nose for something like that.

>>730771196
I remember having to crunch through calculus in high school. Not really "difficult" for me, but incredibly tedious, and there was a large volume of fellow students for whom the logic just never clicked.

>>730769652
Oh yeah! the weight thing I used to be able to eat all the ice cream I wanted parents said enjoy it while you can because one day it will make you fat lol. But I've been pretty lucky with the whole body aching. I have friends that are physical therapists so they always help me with pain issues and preventive care

>>730763375
>Wow my country is in an awful state
>better put my nose to the grind stone and go cry about it on 4chan

>>730770917
where in aus? I'll buy you a cheap whore if you're nearby

>>730770711
>Every generation is terrible.
You're an ignorant little cunt, but at least we can agree on that.

>>730771010
>Aerospace painter

Boeing? I was a glass blower in high school but switched to Boeing after that. I'm only in debt because I got a severe head injury in a car accident. Went from 46k in debt to 2k in debt over the past 2 years. Not really defeatist if I keep working and surviving, shit is just daunting and it takes a lot of work to overcome.

>>730771388
What else is there to do? It's not like voting will ever change anything.

I'm a millennial too, but come on man, our generation has it fucking easy.

The standard of living (in any western country), the opportunities, and the knowledge we have access to is the best its ever been in history -- yet us lazy fucking millennials don't wan't do put in any effort to achieve anything.

>>730763375
Aaaugh, you dumb naive nigger. You nigger. You absolute nigger. Nigger nigger nigger, nigger, nigger nig niggerty nignog niggeramus nig-ger.

You wholesome nigger slice. You fucking... nigger.

You nigger.

You absolute nigger.

Do you know how much of a nigger you are? You're that much of a nigger, nigger.

Fucking nigger.

N I G G G E R
I
G
G
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Fucking god fuck damn, I am so sorry for anyone who's older than me right now. Christ alive. OP? You're a nigger. Stop talking.

I'm 21. You're not special. You're not "old" yet. There have been countless people before you who have had it bad- no one generation was wholly monolithic and homogenous. You have no, absolute, fucking clue. You 99% probably don't even remember a world before 9/11 or HTTPS. Goddamned nigger. People who are in their late 30s have the problems you speak of and some of them have had it since having a high-school degree was all you needed.

Fucking nigger.

Niger.

Fuck.

Fuck I'm so mad and ashamed for this nigger right now. Is this what technology does to us? Make us this basic? I hope we were always this retarded. Cherry on fucking top, this nigger doesn't get that everyone in for the debt ride. This nigger doesn't get that in the gracious future he gets to live in, machines and technology require more effort and better understanding to utilize. These things come at a fucking cost, you nigger. You can't get by with a high school diploma anymore unless you want to break your body before you're 40.

Fucking. Nigger.

Aaaaugh. You weren't even old enough to give a shit about Bush, fucking nigger. Nig-ger. Nigger. Generation X is lucky if they even get pensions- we're practically in the clear for now. Fuck, fucking fuck, you better blame naivete on this, because this is some next level retardation. This isn't even the age of posting cancer shit on LJ, this is years after the consequences changed. Fuck, OP, for real.

Come on.

Dumb nigger. Dumb, nigger. You don't even understand.

>>730767894
>implying gif has no undertones
Pick a fucking side.

>>730771446
i dont want a cheap whore

i just want my life to be not shit but i cant find decent enough work to do so

gonna move

NSW north coast atm

>>730771342
Because it was so easy to fight a grown man starting at 6 years old.

Please tell me how tough you are anon.

>>730771321
Worst case scenario, you can always rob a bank.

Best case? You walk out with a wonderful little nest egg of cash and get away.

Bad case? You get caught and go to jail, where you will be fed and sheltered and have access to health care and a ridiculous volume of free time. Slight chance of rape or fights. Then again, with prison populations veering towards "unsustainable," maybe they'll just let you go as long as you haven't murdered anyone.

Worst case? Armed guard shoots you and you die, and it's not a problem anymore.

>>730771388
The problem is that the grindstone is now made in china with asbestos and filler. It's not working so great. Oh and it just broke off and fucked you, so better hope you got your medical premiums paid up. Oh that's right... you won't be covered. Not unless you got the premium plan that only the rich can afford. But i'm sure you read all the fine print and legalese.

>>730771076
Not be a partisan party-line cock sucking faggot. Use your brain and stop bitching. Oh wait I'm just a hurr durr stoopid republican

>>730771524
this, what the fuck is my generation meant to do?

America tried huge protests and so did europe, fuck even australia had some huge marches are northing fucking changes, then we get called apathetic (and i agree) but all the same nothing changes.

Seriously shits fucked up and i guess we're all just along for the ride watching the world burn

>>730763907
>I know my generation is not the first, and certainly not the last, but I'm staring the financial collapse of the US in the fucking face and it looks like my parents' generation isn't going to do shit about it.

Most of them are facing collapse, too--the only ones who can do anything about it are billionaires and Trumpsters. MOST of your parents' generation are even more afraid than you, because their time is running out.

>>730763375
I'm 20, you're a fucking entitled pussy, and you just summed up what's wrong with this generation. Grow a pair and make a solution. Quit being the whining faggot and start being the self-respecting man who fixed it.

I dropped out of community college by choice and am making $50,000 / year with negligible experience in an entry-level position in a rural area where you could survive independently on $1,000 a month.

Every minute you sit there thinking about how unfair life is, every minute you spend whining to friends and 4chan about how much your life sucks, every minute you spend in a pointless major that costs what you'll be making each year per year,

every one of those is a minute that you were a pussy with no respect for yourself.

Wanna fix it? Shut the fuck up, start working full time, teach yourself everything useful a college would teach you using that free, instant, 24/7 link you have to all of human knowledge ever. Teach yourself personal finance. Teach yourself investing. Do what you're good at, make yourself better at it, and teach yourself what you don't know, but for fuck's sake, quit whining and waiting for someone else to live your life and fulfill your responsibilities for you.

>>730771659
>6 years old
Well, fuck. Your dad is truly a degenerate piece of shit.

At the moment, I'm twice the size of my dad, so there's that. He wouldn't have a chance in hell. Being 6 changes things, though.

>>730771635
wrong side of the country for me anon. I would have sprung for a medium grade whore for u tho babe

work isn't too bad in NSW, but cost of living can be rough. As long as you're not in tassie finding work to get by should be do-able. what kind of jobs are you after?

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Go to poll pal
>spoiler: it was the jews

>>730771725
Yeah, you talk like one. Sack of shit.

>>730771771
AAAUGH YOU DUMB CUCK FUCKS WE'RE ABOUT TO BE THE SECOND BABY BOOMER GENERATION YOU DAFT TWAT GO FUCKING DO SHIT ANYTHING EVEN AN HERO

>>730771196
I'm in FL. What's this about a free pass? Because I kind of fucked myself in the ass by being a lazy cunt. I'm white, but could legally claim I were Hispanic...would if it'd keep me from being stuck for seven or eight years working past the dumb mistakes I've made thus far.

>>730771683
You rob a bank if you're a retard. Money has NO value. You might as well rob a restaurant for coupons. We're all fucking stupid. True value is in ASSETS.

Also, armed robbery is min. 10 years. You'd have to be a fucking imbecile to think you'd get away with it. You think the inflated police unions and the ass load of cops they have roving around will allow you to get away? LOL Again, you'd have to be an imbecile.

The worst case scenario is we all run out of money, become insolvent and the rich just ignore the please of the pooor (like they do now) while people in office shuffle paper around to make it look like they're doing something. Meanwhile, we all end up eating each other (violent crimes go up, robberies, thefts, murders) and they all just twiddle their fingers while we starve.

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>>730771824

>>730771824
You can't admit you got lucky. Not everyone gets lucky or gets their foot in the door. Opportunities to advance are being shrunk to laughable proportions.

My father dropped out of high school and got work and made his way towards buying a home in a few years. Our generation will NEVER afford real estate.

>>730764915
Read this in Kermit's voice

>>730771962
In which case, French Revolution and the rich get their heads chopped off. Unless their guards are rich too, they'll probably side with the proletariat.

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>>730771875
jobs? Anything i can get.

been doing driving jobs for the last 3 months, pays crap but the works easy.
>>730771923
>implying i want to become a statistic
>waaa kill urself its what all the cool kids are doing

Really ?

>>730771852
It's all good anon, the last time he raised a hand to me was when I was 14 and I dragged his precious shot glass case down on him. Everyone has their own plight and everyones life is the worst thing they've ever experienced. It's best to just accept that and appreciate people for who they are now.

>>730771461
Oh, so you got everything all figured out?

Enlighten me on your answers to our mysteries, my nonignorant friend. Clearly you are a hidden genius and your intelligence deserves to be shared with all

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>>730767549

Gen X = born mid 60s- mid 80s.

Gen Y is the same thing as Millennials. They called it Gen Y just to originally compare it to Gen X--just as they now start talking about "Gen Z" but the babies being born now will probably end up with their own generational name.

>>730771591
huh

>>730772159
>Driving jobs
shit like uber/delivery, or do you have a truck license?

>>730763375
>OP is just 18 and thinks he has crushing educational debt

>>730763375

HAHAHAHAHA

Eat shit you fucking whiner.
Stop complaining, sac up, and hustle.

Sincerely,

1985.

>>730769463
>a lot of you are
>Fuck all of them
Loud and clear, but what the fuck is that shit.

>>730771920
I'm left on most issues but holy shit are you liberals gay as fuck

>>730772092

I will own a $300,000 home, paid off in full, before I'm 30, with money left over. Speak for yourself.

5 years ago I was in a mental facility trying to kill myself and then juvenile detention for disorderly conduct.

Between those two events, I learned that life is exactly what you make it.

If you want to own a house, make it happen. When you say we will "never" afford it, you're only doing negative self-reinforcement that makes it harder than it actually is.

>>730772318
>Eat shit you fucking whiner

Nigger you're posting on /b/ right now.

If you were born in 1985 you are DEFINITELY way too old to still be living in your mom's basement.

>>730772283
i wish i had a truck licence

Yeah shit like uber

>>730772417
......how

>>730772417
>If you want to own a house, make it happen. When you say we will "never" afford it, you're only doing negative self-reinforcement that makes it harder than it actually is.
lol this cunt should try living in aus where the average house is 500k-1.5mil and if you want to live near actual cities/work its double that

>>730771223
Nope figured I would start fucking when I could afford the consequences. Had a lot of chick friends but never wanted to mess around with them even though opportunities came up. No homo just not into it then. But I will acknowledged society is ruthless so yes we do get pressured so we can be more competitive and a lot of people try to force there kids into what they think is best. I chose for myself.

>>730771076
Moderate. Libertarian. Non-political.

>>730772144
Again LOL you'd have to be an imbecile. Do you know what kind of security detail a rich person can afford? Do you think you'd even get close to them?

Not to mention robotics, drones and the like are all coming online now. Any sort of french revolution today would be stomped out like a child on an ant hill. We have no chance in hell.

Also, keep in mind that these rich fucks are going to end up just leaving the country entirely. You cannot follow them because you have no money. None of us do. They'll go fuck off to Monaco or some other rich place and we'll all be stuck here fending off roves of thieves and gangs looking to not starve.

>>730772417

>>730772012

>>730772159
>but the works easy

>>730772159
So what's your long term strategy here? Saving up a nest egg? Investments? How are you going to get out of the shit hole you're in?

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>>730768813

Greatest Generation are all a bunch of sexist and racist Archie Bunkers. It's all they knew.

>>730772213
OP is a giant nigger.

>>730772628
it really is

>sit in car
>drive people around
>maybe only working 2-3 hours out of a 12 hours+ shift so most of your time is just sitting around or pottering around town
>>730772660
folks moving, nsw is absolutely fucked.

No work for young cunts my age and area is going to shit

>>730772463
truck license is a hassle to get but wage goes up a tonne.

Considered getting a forklift license or something? not that difficult/expensive to get, and forklift jobs pay pretty decent.

It's funny, OP is gonna come back here in 10 years and see the exact same post made by someone born in 2009, and he'll feel the same apathy we feel for it.

This is the way it is OP, shit will never change, you're dealing with it, we dealt with it, the generation before us, so on and so forth. It's a cycle that will never break.

>>730772318
I'm older than you. But OP is right. And if you tell him that then you took the bait hook, line and sinker. You're a god damned fool. Sorry to say.

Educate yourself. You are just as fucked as he is, and we'll all soon be joining him in one way or another. Well unless you have a million liquid laying around to save you.

But hell, who am I kidding. Even capital is so volatile these days. You'd need assets all over the world to pick the place that isn't burning to the ground.

>>730772802
What do you think the Internet will be like in a decade? Oh goodness.

>>730763907
>The justices who decided that should be shot.
The justices who chose to limit executive power should be shot? When a populist demagogue just hijacked the presidency? Really?

>>730763977
They're not retarded, actually. They are experts in the very specific profession of getting elected, which means appeasing voter blocks, special interests, and wealthy backers. That is their job. Freshman congressmen spend 80% of their time making telemarketing calls asking for donations. No seriously. They fucking hate it. Ever done telemarketing? There's a reason it pays well and nobody keeps the job.

Their only job is to get elected. Not have a coherent philosophy. Not pass legislation. They get paid whether or not they pass legislation. They keep their jobs whether or not they pass legislation. They lose their jobs and their pay if they are not elected. Election is the only thing that matters. Anyone who doesn't optimize for this loses to someone who does.

They are not idiots on the throne. They are ruled BY the throne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs

Learn some shit.

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>>730772417
Depends on where you live.
Pic related: this is a house in Vancouver that costs 2.4 million.

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>>730772786
I'm not questioning if it's easy I'm questioning why you are doing "easy" when you CLAIM to want to make something of yourself.

>drove uber for 20 years and never got any real opportunities except with Lyft

that's your future you whiny shit

>>730772592
You say that like a bunch of shepherds in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't cost the United States $6 Trillion in the last 10 years with improvised explosives, thrown rocks, and the cheapest assault rifle in the world.

You wanna fuck up the country? Target the railroads. Go out in the middle of fucking nowhere, find an active railway, and sabotage the fuck out of it. Train comes down the track, overturns when a big section of railroad turns out to be goddamn missing, BAM! Several million dollars in damages, days or weeks of cleanup.

They can't guard a million miles of track. Do it once a week at a new location each time, and eventually you'll hemorrhage all the money out of them,

>>730772908
It will be filled with porn and people screaming at each other.

>>730772918
well you could get a job as a cherry picker I guess

>>730772796
>Considered getting a forklift license or something? not that difficult/expensive to get, and forklift jobs pay pretty decent.
i would except everyone and their dog is after a warehouse job and there is fuck all work in this area as i said
>>730772943
the fuck are you on about? I took whatever work i could get.

Oh yeah ill go work for the dole to appease dumb baby boomer cunts like yourself fuck off ya cunt

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>>730772908
we'll say "remember when b was good" and be referring to THIS THREAD

>>730772918
Asking price and sale price are two different things, but I will admit that I have no idea what the land value for that property is and it could be astronomical.

>>730772417
You are absolutely right. However, not everyone has the luxury of living in an area they can afford. Or can afford to move to a cheaper area. Housing prices have gone through the roof (eg. It went up 25% year over year where I am).

If you are doing well, I am proud of you anon. But there are far too many anons who are fucked beyond repair at this point.

Burgeoning student debt, credit card debt, government debt is all going to fuck us. Look at the economy right now. It's an absolute shit show. It won't be long until the bottom falls out.

The only people doing well right now, an I mean the ONLY ones doing well are those with real estate and/or who are wealthy already.

I don't know how much you pay attention to financials but i'd advise you to keep your eyes on them.

>>730773070
>i would except

millennial logic

>>730767717
Freedom is better than capitivity. We're trapped in a system that dangles the promise that the "good life" is just ahead... right after you go to school... right after you pay your student loans... right after you pay off this mortgage... and so on.
Our lives are stolen from us.

>>730772159
You don't get it. We're about to become as large as the Baby Boomers. We are the second demographic to do that.

Do you not grasp the importance of that? Do you not understand what that means? Boomers today are the "elders". The majority of them are all in high positions, running things, a handful of them still masters of their field, the rest making up a large chunk of the population, gentrifying the surrounding regions. They are still having a sizable affect on society. They made the underlying infrastructure of what we have. They catered to Gen X, a few to Gen Y. Now we're moving into the spotlight. We can do shit. We can most certainly not fuck it up. We probably won't if you and faggots like you don't act and sit on their ass wasting away. Go get testicular cancer before we help develop nanotechnology for chemotherapy.

Legitimately kill yourself, because I know I'll be doing some fine shit to make me feel good about crippling depression. You don't even know what's liable to happen to your meager driving job.

Fucking peasant.

>>730768351
Which meant the debt was actually being erased, like how debts are supposed to be handled. Bush definitely fucked everything sideways, and whether Obama is the spawn of Satan or not, no one can come out of that unscathed. The boulder was already rolling downhill.

>>730770422

They were at the time--country had just finished WWII, which as far as people knew was going to end the world--and suburbia started. People were pumping out babies like crazy and the country was in a great mood (unless you were a nigger). The kids all grew up in new houses, went to new schools, had gobs of kids their age, parents buying them shit--so much of what we think of as "pop culture" came about from Baby Boomers. they were also the first generation to grow up with TV as kids, which changed human behavior forever.

When they were teens during another stupid war, they became hippies. When they were in their 20s, they popularized Disco and swinger parties. When they were in their 30s, they setlled down and with Reagan in the WH, it because the era of career-obsessed workers and making money (this phenomenon produced Trump, who was a guru for being rich, in the 80s. The character of "Gecko" in "Wall Street"--the quintessential 80s movie--was based on Trump.
By the 90s, boomers had their own brats they were spoiling even more than they had been...known as Millennials.

>>730773019
I see what you did there

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>>730763375
You're not a millennial fucking retard. Millennials were kids who became sentient around 2000. Not just born. Fucking complete moron.

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>le millennial are lazy meme

fucking kill yourselves you fuckers who could go to a shitty graduate program in the 1980s and walk into a management position at a fortune 500

can't wait to go NEET and drain the treasury so you cannot get your medicare and social security you generational faggots

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>>730773202
i literally applied for warehouse work and never heard back

Fuck your perceived logic of us you stupid cunt.
>>730773292
holy fucking projection batman

hahahahaha this wagie thinks he matters!

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I crossed out all of the ones that arent real issues.

Join the fucking military or police force if you're really such an uncertain or whiny bitch. Or join a trade, carpenter or pipefitter or ironworker.

The issue isnt that you were set up for failure its that your generation is so entitled that you expect the route to success to not only be laid out for you but for it to be easy.

>drunk 21 year old federal LEO here

>>730772786
Agreed. Problem is most areas are going to shit now. Only the rich and affluent areas are thriving. I suspect if we can't get in, there's going to come a time not to long from now that those gated communities will be the only safe havens left. And the ticket is you gotta have millions.

Problem is, if you pay attention to average income, it takes the average person over 20 years to earn a million. Not counting taxes, expenses etc.

>>730765395
He means shit like feminists and equal opportunity employment. Basically things that require companies to hire worthless niggers and fat SJWs who otherwise would be far underqualified for even working a McDonald's job.

>>730771090

Eh, no--

Gen X was born early 60s-early 80s. Anything in the 90s is Millennial.

>>730766971
boohoo my daddy didnt love me.

>>730769591
Oh sorry, I meant AN faget*

>>730773292
>We can most certainly not fuck it up.
But that's where youre wrong anon, we will.

>>730773463
You're too thick to get it.

>>730771518
Yup. I totally get the overwhelming part. Just got to keep chugging along. Might sound sad to some of the people on here. But work is fun.

>>730773330
Uhh, you seem to think people born in 1950 are the same generation as the ones born in 1970.

What do you think a boomer is?

That's right your dirty old men's bitch. You pay my social security and Medicare while I jack off to porn in my house I paid $65k and is now worth almost a million.

BTW thanks for picking up my bar tabs and massage parlor happy endings too.

>>730773577
I dont get it because you dont make any fucking sense

>>730773575
Not if we unleash the machine to curtail our stupid.

>>730772918
This. This is the problem that is spreading all over the world like wildfire. Real estate bubbles... it's bubbles all the way down.

>>730763375
>how much harder school has gotten
you probably go to some tiny liberal arts school majoring in general studies. No wonder you're worried about finding a job.

>>730773463
oh wow you applied to one job? that mustve been excruciating you should take a break and spend three hours on your computer.

>>730773488
You're really saying it would be a good idea to join the military on the eve of WW3?

I'm kind of wondering if the faltering economy is deliberate SPECIFICALLY to make people desperate enough to join the military right as they're starting to itch for a new Great War.

>>730772908
eh, not much different, it's been 10 years since 4chan and a few other sites, the only difference is people have become shittier and way more annoying.

>>730773679
It makes plenty of sense, you just want to be autistic and suicidal for having been dealt a shit hand. Tough shit, in my eyes you about deserve it.

>>730772982
The type of people who know how to coordinate such things are never going to do anything about it. Matter of fact this sort of talk is likely to get wind of some 3 letter agencies so i'm going to suggest you not bother talking about it. I'm not on here to stir up a hornets nest.

Any time people talk about revolution I laugh. Pay more attention to what happens domestically when people try. Men in big black trucks show up with tear gas, flash bangs and the like and people change their tune real fuckin' quick.

Espionage of the sort you are talking just doesn't happen. And you can use Iraq and Afghanistan as examples because they don't have 3 letter agencies and nobody around to watch what they're building in their caves. In fact, I think short of going out into the woods, they'd know before you could do anything. This is a nonsense argument.

>>730773611
I do love being a 30804. Actual work is fulfilling.

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>>730765395
>inequality

Agreed

>Self-doubt/uncertainty

Agreed

>Student debt, shitty jobs, unemployment

Nigga go fuck yourself with a cactus, what are you retarded or something? What the fuck did you asshole do to the dollar while we were waiting to be adults? What the fuck happened to the job market, honestly degrees are worth Jack shit nowadays. What if I didn't want to be a welder or lay pipe? I've been living paycheck to paycheck until last winter when I got a job paid in gratuity and even now I ain't doing well enough to build a life.

You and those before us got to do what you wanted, we have to settle for the scraps you left behind while you tell us to like it? Kill yourself you fucking twatball

>>730773463
Did you show up and ask about the job in person?

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nerds talking about gay shit SHUT UP HAHA

>>730763375
ITT: dumb silver spooner whos never known hard work complaining about how bad he has it

>>730773014
Oh. Same as usual, then.

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>>730773862
>on the eve of WW3

This is probably the 6th or 7th WWIII scare I've seen since I started paying attention.

As long as you go into the military as something useful (Heavy equipment operator, mechanic, engineer, etc...) you'll be fine.

Join the police force like I did if you're too much of a bitch to join the army (like i was)

Or do any of the literally hundreds of career options open too you.

ORRRR keep sitting around, smoking weed and bitching about how hard it is to be a millennial

>>730773703
My grandfather was a wise man. He once told me "Never make something idiot proof. It's a waste of time. After all your struggling and fighting, a greater idiot will always come along to fuck everything up."

>>730773109
Oh god. RIP old /b/.

>>730773660
You're welcome

>>730773954
haahahahahah
>>730773828
try 10k+
>>730774091
yeah

anyway this thread is gay its jsut a bunch of people ignoring the fact the job market is fucked due to automation and globalized workforce

>>730773488
That's your main problem. You're too young to learn from history. 21 LEO or not, you are too young to have the big boy pants on you claim to have.

When you're 10 years older and things don't turn out all peaches and cream for you, don't come back looking for this thread. It's all uphill for you.

LEO's typically get compensated VERY well and have awesome retirement packages. Problem is, with civil unrest incoming when the economy finally goes to shit town is you're going to have your work cut out for you.

I wish you all the best anon. Stay safe out there.

>>730774014
Iraq is about half the size of Texas.

Do you really think there aren't giant swathes of nothing in this country? Simple fact is we're not safe. Not everything can be guarded all the time. There's a reason 15 million people waltzed over our border in the last 20 years, and that's a 1000 mile stretch.

Iraq and Afghanistan might not have a Big Bad Intelligence agency watching what the dirt farmers do, but they DO have the American Military Industrial Complex's arm shoved so far up their asses that they can taste it, and they're STILL costing our government obscene amounts of money just trying to keep track of them.

>>730774391
>the job market is fucked
For you. You could be learning how to service the automation at the very least with all the time you've been wasting being a pile of shit. Read, nigger.

>>730774391
Well if you actually showed up then he must of seen how much of a whiny faggot you and you have no place being in a warehouse anyways. How about sandwich craftsman at subway?

>>730774557
No for the entire country.

Oh wait you probably live in america were 60% of you are white

>>730773862
Wink, Wink. Nudge, Nudge. You learn fast Anon. History books show this pattern over and over and over again, and nobody ever fucking pays attention.

Just hordes of imbeciles being lead to slaughter. Surely you'd think some would have learned by now.

>>730774060
I didn't say I was doing well. I live 4 to a 2 bedroom and we all have full time work to afford it. I would love a job like that. Opportunity is out there but the "I don't wanna do that" attitude is just limiting your options. You think miners wanted to do that? Fuck no, but it's one of the few gigs that you can get unskillfully out of highschool and make enough to provide for a family or make house payments by yourself. Life ain't easy.

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>>730774391
>job market is fucked due to automation and globalized workforce

You're right why even bother getting jobs dealing with the maintenance of automation or jobs in fields that dont have automation why even bother right it's all boomers faults

>only applied to mcdonalds and walmart confirmed

>>730774456
Not the other anon, and I still think you're a douche, but you aren't wrong by any measure.

>>730763375
School got harder? hahahahahahahaa they graduate retards these days. You can graduate just by not being white. Have you've seen colleges today? They're run by idiots whose primary concern is indoctrination, not education. Feelings take precedence over logic. It's far easier than it's ever been. Just act like an oppressed faggot and you got it made. I mean you'll be as dumb as a fucking brick, but a brick in so called "higher education" where they'll turn you into a cult member for life.

GTFO young blood. Your balls barely dropped and life is ten time easier then it was in my day, and harder for my parents, and so on.

Anyone wanna send me money on venmo?

>>730774637
I'm a nigger, faggot. And I don't even live in America. You have no idea how feasible it is to get by on your current paycheck, learn on the side, compile a small portfolio, show some interest, and network with faggots who are in the respective field just so you can get your foot in the door.

Instead, you'd rather gripe about
>muh 60% white America
>unfair funfair

>>730774938
Are you a woman and will you send me videos doing filthy things?

>>730771223

It always seems that way, and did even 30 years ago, but they are really just trying to get you think for 5 minutes about your future, something most high schoolers don't do. By the time you get to college, you'll change your mind 20 times anyway.

Almost 0% of the people I knew in college finished in the same field they started in. But at least making them realize HS isn't forever.

>>730765983
lol they're about to run multiple pipelines through the country (my union is going to be one of them) and its 30 and hr plus benifits without school debt so idk what the fuck your on about but union trades are great. i havent made less then 26.50 since i joined and all i have is a G.E.D. and get this FREE CLASSES like hazmat, cpr, first aid, rough terrain forklift, traffic controll, etc... plus benefits plus unemployement at 430$ a week for 6 months. signed a 25 year old

>>730775137
We need to bring back trades and unions. They enable a living wage and set a decent scale for the nation.

>>730774758
lol silly american

We're just about to go through our biggest depression in over 20 years similar to your 2006-2009 GFC which we didnt really get affected by

>housing market fucked, bubbles burst, investors both foreign and others dropping out
>price of everything is sky high
Lel
>>730775017
fuck off nigger go back to /pol/

>>730770337

>why don't you take care of your problems

It certainly works better than crying like a faggot. Admit it, you would have been one of those unwashed morons in Central Park just complaining with no real solutions. You'll sleep better at night if you just admit your lazy as fuck and want everything handed to you.

Also, seriously doubt you know jack shit about poverty or a hard life, so just kill yourself if you can't convert your massive leg up in life to something you can be proud of.

>>730775137
Yea. See. This mother fucker can't even spell benefits and he's getting them. There's hope for you, OP. You just have to stop being such a faggot and work hard.

>>730775370
I don't even live on /pol/.

>>730771223
yeah growing the fuck up by 18 is such a new concept.

>>730774456
Does it ever occur to you, anon, that they allow them to? As in, do you not understand how much money defense corporations get to keep supplying these lines?

Ie. They are doing a poor job of it on purpose, because they're making a shit ton. 6 trillion is the tip of the iceberg.

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>>730775370

>implying I'm an american

Apply to your fucking police force, or walk onto literally any construction site and start handing out resumes

Stop being a lazy piece of shit. Put down the joint for more than a month and stop blaming other people

>>730763375
Wow it sounds like the next generation is going to be, dare I say, conservative.

>>730774557
yup because the local community college is handing out free educations in robotics and automation engineering lol. You're a hoot.

>>730774708
I love how you're acting like you have license to say this shit to us then, if you're still living with roommates at 28. Like you have experience. Why don't you go do it if it's so easy? I've been working my ass off since I moved out, the day after I turned 18. No help from parents (not that I blame them), had to do everything for myself.

Don't say we have nothing to complain about, when we were growing up we were told if we work at something we would be able to get it, we were told that there are jobs created as a result to problems society has never had before, like IT and shit, and that if we get into those jobs we'll have it made. Nowadays you can't even get into the industry unless you know someone or you're more qualified than the person who's fucking hiring you.

And it's not like previous generations never bitched about their lot in life either. The world's always been shitty and people have always been complaining, why the fuck are we the ones who get called whiny? Shit has been going downhill for decades, nothing is getting better, and we are the most recent generation of adults, so we came into it at its worst. And yeah I know everyone worked in steel mills or coal mines 2 generations ago but you could literally support a family off that back then. My grandfathers both did that. They made a living off it and retired before they were 60. We are not going to have that option.

Don't say we have nothing to complain about. If you honestly think we don't then yeah, no fucking wonder you're almost 30 years old still living with fucking roommates. You're dense as fuck if you think we have no right to complain.

>>730774708
What are you going to do when the company you work for fucks off to mexico?

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>>730775695
>>730775370

Also, regarding police, when an economy goes into the shitter crime rises, requiring a surplus of officers.
As an LEO you're entitled to plenty of room for expansion as well as a juicy pension.

Stop acting like theres nothing for you soley because you were born in a certain year. You're just a lazy bitch. And this is coming from someone 3 years your senior.

>>730770711
in control of what exactly. according to you its all falling apart and cant be saved and its the end times because its so hard. btw we already spent your retirement money and ss checks along with ours to fund wars so good luck faggot :D

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>>730763375

I fucking hate the generations before me, I was born in 1899 and our debt was $195 Million

Now in 1918 it's over $8 BILLION!!

srsly I just have to scream into the ether sometimes....

>>730775860
anyone working in a steel mill or coal mine can easily support a family. its faggots who think sitting behind a counter at the gap is anything other than a way to put yourself through school.

>>730775804
AGAIN with the handing out. OF COURSE THEY AREN'T, FAGGOT!! Why would you expect them to?

>>730775804
>going to the local community college for a degree in robotics
>thinking you need a degree in robotics specifically to be involved in the field of automation
Shit, you're dumb. I'm glad you even thought that far ahead. Maybe there's hope for you yet. Work your plebeian driving job until you have enough money to move somewhere where the only other alternative isn't a fucking community college, and then realize that there are more jobs out there (and more "professions"/pieces of paper) that will allow you to ride on the coattails of niggers who take life seriously.

You don't even try.

>>730776169
because im ENTITLED! waaahhhh

>>730775370
welcome to AUS

>>730763375

College prof here. From my experience, students now are more lazy, less educated, and have a larger sense of entitlement than 10 years ago.

So... Get back on your phone and bitch some more while doing nothing constructive like your peers.

>>730763375
>National debts dont affect citizens. Allocations of taxpayer revenue does. Learn economics

You have no fucking idea, you massive faggot. Before you were born, the government did not pay for people to go to college. There was no internet.. Laws hardly protected people from being assaulted or harassed. EVERYONE was expected to work. I could go on and on if you're truly interested, otherwise I'll stop here.

You need to take a good look around you. Nobody is asking you to do anything. The world is your oyster and there is nothing holding you back but that your ungrateful attitude toward humanity and the path that has been laid out for you.

You think you could have done better than your parents? Grow up, get a job, pay your own bills, and raise an ungrateful faggot... then I'll believe you.

>>730776425
You mean, "parasite living in his mommie's attic," not college prof, although I could see how you could mix the two up.

>>730775048
I'm just a millennial

>>730775860
Not the other guy, but I agree with you wholeheartedly and share a similar situation to yours with the whole working and supporting myself since 18 lest one part
>almost 30 years old still living with fucking roommates.
This is actually a complicated issue that depends on the cost of living and housing in your area. I dont have roommates, but almost every friend of mine does. I get frequent requests from people wanting to move in with me just to have a stable roommate for their own unstable lives. I mean, I obviously say no because I value my independence and privacy, but it's a surprisingly common thing.

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>>730765983
Ive never seen more nothing in that many words. What the fuck is your point?

>>730775438
im pretty lit right now so i dont really care about my spelling hence lack of commas and punctiation and more than likely the misspelling of punctiuation.

>>730776578
/thread

>>730776133
Yeah see what you don't seem to realize is it isn't even easy to get those jobs in certain areas. I applied for shit like container unloading at $15/hr, boat maintainence, I even tried to take on an apprenticeship with the brotherhood of electricians, while I was working fast food and pool cleaning. The Brotherhood wouldn't take me on because labor was short and they were all trying to keep all the work, they didn't want to share it with anyone. Trade jobs are a fucking meme.

And you could support a family or buy a house or a car with jobs in retail 50 years ago, dumbfuck. The federal minimum wage has not increased in a proportional amount to the cost of living. The last time that it was raised was in 2009 from like 6.50 to 7.25, while the cost of living generally went up and up and a dollar was stretched further and further until it wasn't worth shit.

>>730776493
>National debts are a reflection of debt held by individual citizens

That might not be their function or their actual definition, but it is a reality of them.

>>730776084
Ha, I like you anon

I'm booking it out of this thread because most of you are ignorant cunts.

All i'm going to say is that if you think you've got it figured out but don't have access to at LEAST 1 million USD you are going to get fucked so far up your ass you're going to make a career of it.

Just wait until the fed raises interest rates again and your mortgage goes up, all the while your pay shrinks due to poor market conditions and the companies you work for threaten to fuck off to mexico, china or any other country they can to get away from having to pay you so much. You are going to end up losing everything.

I'm sorry to say but you people need to pay attention to the markets, history and most importantly don't kick the messenger. OP is getting fucked and you're all laughing at him. Well let's see who's laughing when you lose too.

Don't say the writing wasn't on the wall for the last 100 years. All you had to do was read.

>>730775347
no kidding i worked a temp agency having to travel from vermont to mass making 7.25 to at most 10 an hr for a long time. what a world of difference i mean i have to work harder but fuck me its worth it.

>>730775972
What am I going to do when they don't? I'm just sayin', it's hypothetical.

>>730775860
Yea, I do. I'm in the same position as you and I'm not whining. You're just younger than me by like 7-8 years and still full of piss and vinegar. I would've mentioned that I live in the Bay Area and rents here are retardedly high but it's my choice to live here. With the same pay I have here, I could afford a 2 bedroom by myself in the middle of the country.

>>730776631

I can be both....

Also, has 4chan really gotten so bad that having someone be a prof is that unlikely? If it makes you feel better I teach lowly undergrad...

>>730776872
nobody said it was easy to get them retard. and no, working a counter has never been able to support a family. if thats all youre capable of you should blow your fucking brains out right now.

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>>730776700
I harped on that because I'm living in more or less the same situation at 22, and somebody at 28 living just like I am is gonna preach about how easy life is, how we have nothing to complain about, etc etc? Nah fuck that man. If you're gonna say that shit to me then come from a place of relevant experience, not from the place I myself am in.

>>730776985
It is not hypothetical. I don't know what industry you are in, but all industries are effected and the last 30 years should have told you this is part of a trend, not a temporary measure.

It's not a matter of IF they will leave, it's a matter of WHEN. Hell, even a favorable tax rate could send them off to Ireland or some such shit. Pay attention.

They're not all going to keep being headquartered in Vermont forever.

>>730776644
Well, then you need to understand the concept of providing a service for recompense. This isn't a generational thing, it's just a thing, and it's very important.

>>730776578
/thread

I'm a millennial and I hate millennials for this reason. I swear 90% are born retarded.

>Grew up in 1 parent household, left home at 17 , learnt trade, worked 70 hour weeks, now studying commerce, 20+k in debt but making over 55k+ a year at 21, looking at purchasing my first house next year.

>Most of my old schoolmates still live with both parents and are liberal gibsme, meet me and think im a drug dealer/ won the lotto.

>>730763977
No politician is retarded, they just increase spending to keep the people who keep them in power happy

>>730776578
The population of the country was also about 2/3rds what it is now.

We didn't have an ocean of mentally ill and disabled people vying for work - they were in mental hospitals where they belong.

We didn't have robots and AI turning a job that traditionally took 20 people or more into a 1 person job, and that job is to babysit the AI.

We didn't have massive outsourcing to Brazil/China/India/Mexico.

The short of it is that 30/40 years ago, there was more opportunity than there were people looking for it. Advancing technology and techniques, geopolitics, and a larger volume of people have culminated in a really shitty likelihood of finding work. Even shitty jobs have 200 or 300 people applying for them, and only 1 person gets it.

And that person isn't even necessarily the best candidate for the work - not out of charity of the business letting a young up-and-comer get some experience, or letting a guy down-on-his-luck bounce back, or giving an ex-con a chance to better himself. It could be because they'll get more from the government for hiring a black/woman/homosexual/cripple than they would get from having someone competent doing the work.

>>730776923
>you are going to get fucked so far up your ass you're going to make a career of it
Sounds like we'll have secure jobs, then.
>1 million USD
My entire family gets by on a salary of around $30k. You can make that work if you don't live in a stupidly expensive place, and don't buy stupid, and don't invest stupid. OP is getting fucked but OP is still steps away from being self-aware (an adult).
>the last 100 years
Alright, Nostradamus.

>>730765033
dissolve the federal reserve

>>730777406
It was the lead paint and the lead toys.

>>730776923
laughing my god damn ass off in truth. noone is "fucking off to mexico" or the usa (a very large consumer) is going to raise trade tax when they try to import that shit here.

>>730777266
I set up and maintain reef aquariums for clients. I get that it's a nonentity job and that it would fail it the country should fall apart but by that time there are bigger problems than where my income comes from.

>>730763375
school is actually EASIER than you ever had it, the government was sick of fail rates and initiated funding based policies based of student suceess so schools lowered the typical standards just to push you retards throughi know i was in high school when they came into effect and the tests turned from open ended thought provoking questions and open ended math questions to all standardized multiple choice tests. you fuckers have it east in school

>>730777571

99% of US locations, 30k is not feasible for a family. What state are you in?

I'm a millennial. I have a job, a car, an apartment, an intact social life, and I'm attending college. I come from a family below the poverty level. I seem to be doing alright, and I'm not whining about my life. Grow the fuck up, dipshit.
(P.S. School is harder so we won't have more dumbfucks like you)

I got my first job at 15 as a grocery bag boy

What have you done so far OP besides be a whiny little cunt like the rest of you millennialist?

>>730777094
>nobody said it was easy to get them retard.

Oh yeah you're absolutely right, nobody except FUCKING EVERYBODY SAID IT WAS EASY TO GET THEM

>le trade jobs r in hi demand xD
>if u dnt want 3 go 1 college u can just work a trade

Ducking drilled into our heads as kids in high school, you dumb fucking shitcamel, and here we are, the trade jobs are even fucking taken. Counters are all that's left for some people, I was lucky enough to get a job in the hotel industry through a friend.

>>730776985
So I'm just supposed to fucking accept the steaming pile of shit put in front of me because "others had it worse". I thought humanity was supposed to constantly improve? Life was supposed to keep getting better, not stagnate or worsen?

Nah, there's loads to complain about. Pocket computers and lack of polio and shit does not make up for the fact that this society is unsustainable.

>>730767620
Thanks, now I'm gonna have to listen to that.

>>730777860
None of them. Not yet, anyways.

>>730777882
>No child left behind

It's not like kids can fail anymore. They just lower the passing grade, or they slow progress for the whole goddamn class so that Igor can learn to count past 11.

>>730763375
>1999
That's gen Z.

>>730763375
stop whining and leave the US. Go to trully shitty country like Ukraine and try to live there. Then you'll see what a shithole means. You little faggot bitch.

I'm 22 make 94k a year and didn't go to college, learn a fucking useful skill and apply yourself, expecting the world to work for you or to be fare is the same as sitting around waiting to die.

>>730777917
You have to get a special license from the state to work if you're under 18 now, and you're still restricted to weekends, and no longer than 4 hours per day and no later than 6pm.

At least, that's the case in my state.

>>730776877
More a reflection on what the banks are willing to loan, banks hold the power, you find more better economies have stricter lending criteria than interest whores like the USA.
But approx 75%+ of national debt reflect on government spending on bailouts/ social services/ infrastructure.
Also its to consider what percentage of debt makes up the nations GDP reflects its economies strength.

>USA Debt makes up 100%+ of GDP, high interest rates economy going to shit.

>NZ Debt makes up 33% of gdp, low interest rates, things are OK.

>>730776872
you picked the wrong trade retard the waiting list for that trade is thousands strong. start in a labor trade or as a mason then pick an easy trade. dont be scare to get dirty or work hard because thats what your going to do in either of them.

>>730778144
Everything on the internet is true.

>>730777245
I think a lot of it is that many of us suppose that strangers on the internet come from worlds that we are used to seeing. The millennial struggling to get a job could be from a mill town that had its industry shut down and believes the entire world is like that. The next anon could believe life is easy because they have a fallback net in their family so they believe everyone has a support system. That and we're all anonymous here, there's no way to really introduce yourself and share enough of your life without becoming infamous here.

go live in the woods in a tent for a month op

eat wild plants for nutrients, fell your own game, fetch your own water

you'll see how much your gpa, your social life, your car, your job means

you conflate wants with needs

>>730778199

Yeah no shit it's called a work permit.

I couldn't work full shifts either and only got a couple days a week after school.

Jeez Louise.

>>730778043

Makes sense. This is the issue with money on the internet. The value of the US dollar is absurdly different everywhere, even within the US.

I live in TX where 60k can get you an OKish apartment and lifestyle for 1 person. 60k in California is akin to needing 6 roommates for a trashy dump.

>>730774060
Of you don't want to be a welder then don't fucking become one, live your life in misery with some other shitty job that pays a pittence. If you're so fucking arrogant that you think a stable job that pays well and allows you to be flexible with the hours you work is below you, then quite frankly you don't deserve a job.

And the reason degrees are worthless and expensive is because every cunt has one and everyone else wants one. Supply and demand, go and read about it.

No generation has it easy when they're young, and never fucking wish death on someone offering you advice

Sincerely, a millenial

>>730778241
>implying I only tried to get into one trade

Welding, electrician, construction/carpentry, masonry. I'm not afraid of work by any means. I've been doing it since I was 18. And no, not just standing behind fucking counters.

No one wants to hire anymore.

>>730776425
i swear to god i emailed that paper on time, prof

>>730777965
Yes. Accept it.

>>730777965
you either live in a right to work state or have absolutely no idea what your talking about, i made 60k last year and they still cant find enough people

>>730776425
Keep em dumb prof. weakens the competition.

>>730778343
Large pools of people attract exceptions, I know I'm lucky but it's not like i got here sitting around. I learned programming on my own and grinded my way up from a 14$ an hour junior job.

>>730770584
Can confirm lived on a cattle/ dairy farm as a kid amd helped with smaller livestock (goats and chickens). Short of butchering and any unloading days work was about 5-6 hours for anyone person on a 10 person farm.

>>730763375
>made school harder than they ever had it
lazy faggot detected, seriously you have no fuckin idea how easy it is to get a degree, or even a masters or PhD in 2017. I quit working in academia because they were giving retards those expensive bits of paper just for turning up.

>>730763977
You're*

>>730777485
Fucking this

>>730778466
Someone wants to hire, you just aren't physically in the right place.

>>730777965
nothing is easy. you have to work to achieve anything of value. you shouldve paid more attention in school rather than on your smartphone wasting time making up fantasies about everyone saying jobs are handed out like candy. youre fucking pathetic.

>>730778441
>sincerely, a millenial

Jfc. You'll understand in a year or two fam. Job market ain't lit. You're gonna have to hustle if you don't want to struggle. Or what the fuck ever.

Literally tried every trade in the area before I gave up and got into entry level pool cleaning. Moved on to hospitality later on because the pay was better.

>then move to a different area

Yeah, that costs money. Money which I really can't make without a job. Jobs that aren't available in my area. Get it now? Fuck off.

>>730763375
>minimum effort

i wish you had put that earlier in your post so i would have known not to read it. get fucked, kid.

and for the record i'm only 25, i got just about as fucked as you. i'm making things work out for me just fine. takes a good bit of effort but then nothing is ever easy. get used to it.

>>730778489

You joke. I had a student turn in their final today and complain about their grades... wants a B in the course. In a rare gesture of kindness, I give the option to redo 3 assignments to make that possible... Instead took the C so Summer break would start a week sooner...

what good does complaining about it do?

for the sake of argument, i'll give you your premise, maybe the states are fucked up more than they were for previous generations

do you think bitching about it on an anonymous manga collecting image board is going to do anything about it?

scenario one: bitch about it on the internet -> raise awareness(if any) -> collectively do something about it

scenario two: do something about it -> raise awareness -> collectively do something about it

all you want to do is bitch, you are like a woman

>>730765395
In order to be a welder that makes Fuck loads of money you need to go to classes for that and those classes run up a hefty tab nowadays. 10 years back it was cheaper. No experience welding will land you maybe 13 an hour for some heavy work. I'd rather be a gate installer or fence worker for that money.

>>730778904
>honest work
>summer
I would've took those 3 assignments any day. Probably didn't even do homework.

>>730778549
No. Fuck that and fuck you.

>>730778581
>live in a right to work state

BINGO, motherfucker. And I can't leave. See >>730778868

>>730778814
See >>730778868

>>730778921
oh my god you mean you cant just show up and get handed a skilled labor job without acquiring the skill? Its so unfair! its all my daddys fault!

>>730779067

I freaked out if I was not making an A in my classes...

>>730779073
Loans are always an option.

>>730778429
Coastal economies are fucking retarded.

T. Washingtonfag

>>730778921
It was that way for a lot of my certifications. Classes aside, just taking certification exams costs thousands.

>>730779073
better spend all your free time bitching on the internet then. life is so hard!

>>730778842
>nothing is easy

No fucking shit. Hello? Working full time since 18? Accepted every opportunity that was a step forward rather than sideways or backwards? I didn't even fucking have a smartphone until I bought one with my own money. At 19.

What is really fucking pathetic is trying to continue to justify how shitty life is by saying things like this. Trying to find something I could have done or not done to change things. Trying to say I'm pathetic because the world is going to shit and I'm pointing it out. Fuck you.

>>730763375
You act like anyone older than you somehow made your life miserable. You know what you sound like snowflake? A nigger.
You want reparations snowflake? I'm 38 and just paid off my student loans. 162k.
I made my way in life and knew I had to work hard to get what I wanted. There isn't participation ribbons in life buttercup.

>>730779224
English, History, Soft Sciences I didn't really give a fuck.

Mathematics and classes for my field? I wanted an A.

Between Cs in the non important classes and As in the important ones, I squeezed through a GPA of about 3.3.

>>730778921
Awwww boohoo you gonna have to invest in education to get tickets and EARN a decent wage. poor baby.

>20k spent on training, i go home 2 years later with 1200 p/w now im qualified.

>Just do it you bitch, nothing wrong with risking debt that you can make a lifetime return on, you dont want to be poorfag forever.

>>730779334
You're fucking here too, getting your jollies off the fact that you kept your mouth shut while life fucked you in the ass. Good boy! Oh, what a good boy you are!

>>730779448
oh wow youve had a job as an adult? youre so fucking special. its so hard fucking existing.

what do you value in your life, op?

>>730778921
Actually in my state you just have to oass WABO certification tests which is like $350 for all of them. I know it still costs money, but it's considerably more manageable than taking trade courses and you could literally teach yourself with manuals and YouTube in your back yard.