I dont get it /b. I see alot of bitter lonely guys here that

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>>730606504

>>730606594
No really i dont want to bash on /b not at all. Im just curious to see /b point of view.

>>730606504

How does it feel to have your first girlfriend?

>>730607366
kek had her when I was 16. At the time I was playing world of wacraft about 10 hours a day. Pure luck I got her idk what I saw in her. She taught me how to talk to girls and how to be social. We arent still together ofc.

>>730607655
what she saw in me**

>>730606504
Depression, anxiety

>>730607800
Dont you have friends?

>>730607896
A few, yeah, but it's not easy to socialize when I can't stop feeling down

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>>730606504
what a stupid cloying obvious question, fuck off normiefag

>>730608055
I had the same problem at one point of my life and it turned out it was my "friends". They had 0 experience with girls and when I tried to get a girl I really liked they tried to screw me over. So I stoped hanging out with them.
For the feeling down problem weed kinda helps me bro. Also I love what I study and work.

>>730608219
I know im a normie.. but honestly is it bad to be atleast a little bit of normie? I dont do threads often I lurk more. But I really like /b and i feel kinda sorry for some of the guys here.

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>>730606504

>>730608406
I can hardly smoke weed any more. It puts my mind back onto things I don't want to think about and I can't work while I'm on it because I'll forget everything or have crazy levels of anxiety. My friends aren't toxic, I just have an extremely hard time coping with my life.

I don't hate women or anything like that but I don't think I've had a truly healthy relationship either. I wish I could, but I can't trust them, and as a result, they don't trust me.

>>730608747
What fuels your negative feelings?

>>730608881
Trauma over pre-existing mental health issues. Don't really want to get into it rn

>>730608499
it's good to be a normie irl

it's good to be NEET on chinese cartoon forms

>>730606504
Why bother? Most relationships end terribly for the men.

Put in effort to have the privilege to pay for dates, to have the privilege to support a woman, to have the privilege to get married, to have the privilege to support a family, to have the privilege for her to use your children against you and take most of your stuff and money in a biased family court system, to have the privilege for her to take money out of your pay every week while she fucks other guys in your house.

OR

Be alone and happy with friends, internet, porn, drugs, alcohol, and every penny you make is for you to spend as you see fit.

>>730608499
in a society as sick as this, yes, it is bad to be normie.

>>730609332
But I never had any of thouse problems with my relationships? Im 21 and I had 4 so far and they all ended because 1 was crazy, 1 was from distance, 1 was too jelaous and obsessive and 1 because im an idiot.

>>730609579
I second this.

>>730609579
Well you can always be happy with your gf and friends and show the society a middle finger.

>>730609673
You never paid for dates? You never had to support a GF?

Also your 21, fuck off with your inexperience. Learn from the mistakes of your elders. Talk to some dudes in their 50's.

>>730609836
Tell me how well that works out for you in 20 years.

Sounds short sighted to say the least.

>>730609976
Why would I pay for a date? I would take her to a park or invite her over. There are so much ideas to not spend money. As long as you can keep her interest and make her laugh you are ok. When we become a couple then I would spend money on her but so would she. Its 50/50.

>>730610102
So whats your life plan?

>>730609976
Also I dont have much money since I dont live with my parents and im still at UNI so poor af student. I always tell them I dont have money and that wasnt a problem. What I didnt mention is that im from eastern europe. Maybe girls here are different idk

>>730610157
It's not a date, it's dates. Plural.
50/50? Bull shit.
See how long a relationship lasts when you only ever walk around the park and hang out watching Netflix. See how long she stays when you wont even buy her dinner.

>>730610188
Save my money, buy land, open an easy to run business, spend excess money of whatever I want, spend my time with friends doing things I love, take up hobbies, go on trips to places I want to go, retire early, enjoy my limited time until I die.

>>730610443
Dude im not taking her on 5 dates where I spend money on her if she wants that she can go fuck herself. I would take her for a coffee, invite her over, introduce her to family/friends or go play some sport. If we get on 3rd date then I will tell her what I feel like if she feels the same good if she doesnt we go apart.

>>730610725
So basically what I said exept I dont plan on becoming rich,

>>730610313
Still at UNI. So your a potential money maker.

They'll ride the cock carousel in college. When they get older they'll want a provider.

>>730610745
So 3 dates.
Okay yeah I sure that will convince her to stick around until your old and gray. Let me know how that works for you.

Again, talk to dudes in their 50s.

>>730610918
Im studying archaeology so they dont see money they probably see indiana jones macho stuff lol. Its not a high paid proffesion. My parents are happily married for 20 years and its all 50/50 with them so I believe I can find the same for me

>>730611125
3 dates is all it takes. If she agrees on 2 its almoust sure she is into you. How old are you?

>>730610799
Evidently not. You'll be spending your money on what she wants, on larger homes, on kids, on divorce proceedings, child support, alimony. Stuff like that.

>>730611126
Good fucking luck.

>>730611126
>indiana jones macho stuff
>being this delusional

>>730611195
37.

>>730611312
Thats what THEY see. I know it has nothing to do with the indiana jones idea. Plus I have tons of interesting stories to tell
>>730611250
Well hello nostradamus. Also divorces dont work that way here.

>>730611126
So you think they just have some illusion of a movie character. See my previous comment about them riding the cock carousel in collage.

>>730611454
Nostradamus has nothing on me. Pessimism is a stronger precognition than bullshit riddles could ever be. Wait and see.

>>730611479
Tbh neither me nor you know whats inside their head bro. I highly doubt they all dream of fucking Harrison Ford.

>>730611577
>Being pessimistic
>Having friends (that arent toxic or downers)
Choose one.

>>730611611
I can only speak off what I've seen. Promiscuity in college, then suddenly they want a stable provider to support them while they have kids. OR they focus of their careers and become bitter old women when it's to late to make a family.

So I still dont get it why are you people so afraid of rejection or taking a risk? Just because some people get divorced doesnt mean you will. Stop showering because some people drown,

>>730611454
>Thats what THEY see
>being this delusional

>>730606504
What if you have a small dick?

Oh shit, boom.

Again guys ty all for the comments but as I said. I am from eastern europe. Girls and culture is different here.

>>730606504
Well I've been married, twice. Last wife was 10 years younger and I look way younger than I am so all i date is younger women. I workout. I have a degree. Women hit on me. Feels good, man.

>>730611701
Sardonic humor.
Absurdist philosophy.
Good advise.

You think just because I recognize the glass is half empty it's all I every talk about? Fuck if that was the case I'd have off'd myself ages ago.

>>730612079
I talk from experience because I was a pessimist and a pessimist attracts only toxic downers. Even if you dont talk about it you show it anyways. My pessimis led to depression and I was fucked up for a period of time

>>730611983
kek idk bro im average there are size queens but if you arent under 5.9 inch (15cm) you are ok

>>730611899
> taking a risk
taking a risk implies theres a chance you won't get fucked. the entire system is weighed heavily against males. there is no benefit to marriage or (increasingly) cohabitation, especially when the legal system incentivizes divorce for women and there is no negative consequence for their infidelity and abuse.
>some people get divorced
let me ftfy--MOST people get divorced
>Stop showering because some people drown
talk about hyperbole and false equivalency

>>730611899
Google divorce statistics.
How about you bet your future on a dice roll?

>>730612439
I get your point of you man and I respect it. Its just that I have seen many happily married people, and here there isnt much difference if you are a man or a female. If you are getting marriend you can always make her sign a paper ( I dont remember what was it called in english) that says she wont take your stuff if you divorce unless you both bought it. So if she come to live with you and you divorce she cant get half of the house.

>>730612268
So how did you stop viewing the world as you always had before? Be specific.

>>730611899
Simply getting rejected is one thing but getting divorced and losing everything you have is the real reason why guys don't want to get married.

>>730612552
Idk I nearly died 2 times in my life and I didnt so I guess im lucky. A divorce cant be worse than breaking your neck or getting burreid alive.

>>730612676
In the US they have set the legal president that a prenuptial contract means nothing.

>>730612396
What do you think most of these guys have? Honestly be real. Guess what I have.

I mean idc because I have every lifting gay and nigger daddy wanting my bussy but some of these dudes don't got it, I didn't at one point.

>>730612798
But it can be worse than not getting married in the first place.

Sure if it's marriage or death the choice is simple.

>>730612744
If I say I just woke up feeling awesome I would lie. It took me allot of time and efforts from my friends, family and a girl that I was dating and was with me despite my views on life. Going into UNI to study what Ive always wanted + meeting new people helped also. Over time I just stoped worrying about the thing I cant control like if I will divorce my future wife stuff like that you know. The girl I dated then was amazing she never asked for anything and supported me but im a fucking retard and screwed the relationship.

>>730612798
> A divorce cant be worse than breaking your neck or getting burreid alive.
Enjoy paying alimony, bro.

>>730612910

This is total myth and bullshit. The only way a prenup gets thrown out is if you did shady shit to get it signed in the first place

>>730613134
>>730613017
kekd so hard yeah you got me there. Its probably worse lol

>>730612396
Average is 5.5 inches.
So your only okay if your above average.

>>730612984
I think probably most of the people here are average. I never understood the I have a bigger penis thing. Enjoy what you have and be happy that it works.

>>730613248
Yes my bad.

GFs are overrated tbh

>>730613083
"pessimist attracts only toxic downers"
"meeting new people helped"
"The girl I dated then was amazing she never asked for anything and supported me"
"im a fucking retard"

>>730613598
Can you explain your point bro I really didnt get you.

>>730610443

Bro, I think I see the problem with your relationships: you hang out with girls that are only in it for a free dinner.

Your vast oversimplification of every woman into a gold-digging leech suggests that you have zero-to-infinitesimal amounts of experience with real women, and instead are learning about women from shitty hollywood teen comedies.

Seriously. There are tons of women out there who are not in it for the money. Some are, certainly, but that doesn't mean you should treat every woman as if she is. Companionship and love are important - humans are social creatures. Trying to fill that need with physical stuff and drugs is going to leave you sad, and empty.

>>730613834
Someone with better english explained it for me. Thank you bro

>>730613824
You say pessimists attract only toxic downers.
You the say meeting new people while being a pessimist helped you become optimistic.
The girl you dated while being a pessimist was great.

If pessimists only attracted toxic downers then the new people you met and the girl you dated would have been toxic downers, but they evidently were not. So I can be a pessimist and meet nice people and have friends just fine. Thus rebutting your point.

You a fucking retard.

>>730614132
Dude they helped me meet people who werent toxic and pessimistic. Through my cousin that wasnt a downer I met my gf. Through her I met new friends.

>>730613834
Again try talking to men in their 50's. It's not my experiences that convinced me, but the experiences of every male relative, friend, relative of friends, and coworker I'd ever had. I know literally ZERO happily married people.

>>730614337
So I say I know litteraly ZERO unhappily married people. That proves nothing

>>730614239
But they were attracted enough to be around you. Thus either you weren't a pessimist, or pessimists can attract good people.

>>730614537
If you are around happy people its kinda contagious, atleast for me it was. Eventually you snap out of it.

>>730614474
You want proof, look at the divorce statistics.
Then realize that some people stay married without being happy.
Unhappy marriages are over 50% of all marriages.
The overwhelming majority of divorces are initiated by the woman.

OP only thing I will say is that /b doesnt fear rejection. Most of the people here have issues that they dont want to admit so they blame the world. Life is as only as shitty as you make it.

>>730614787
I preffer looking at life and not at statistics.

>>730614895
Then the lives of the men I've talked to should mean something to you.
Proof or personal experiences. I have both.

>>730615083
So the happy marriges of the people I know dont mean anything?

>>730614337

Spare me the "I know so much more because I know 50 year old guys who've been through it," bullshit.

I'm 42. I've been married, been divorced, and now have a young child with a long-term girlfriend who I live with. We bought a house together recently, and we had a lawyer draft a cohabitation agreement that basically protects her stake in the house and my retirement savings - she put up the down payment because she had bought a house before, and the sale of her house was flipped into the down payment of our new house. I have rented all along, and plowed all my money into my retirement accounts instead of property. The cohab agreement says "whatever you brought in, you get to keep; In the event we split, joint assets are split 50/50 after her down payment is paid back."

Your blanket assertion that all marriages end with the woman raking the man over the coals is bullshit, plain and simple - 40-50% of marriages end in divorce; that means 50-60% of them are "happy enough" to last. This means you hang around with either the unluckiest group of dumb-fucks to ever exist, or you're engaging in silly confirmation bias by recalling only the horror stories you've ever heard, and ignoring all of the examples around you that contradict your experiences. Either way, I don't need some forever lonely try-hard who's never had a successful relationship telling me how he knows the real deal.

Go out and live a little son - then tell us about how bad it is out there. Don't tell us about how bad you *heard* it could be.

>>730615192
guarantee some of those 'happy' marriages are failing...people hide that shit really well.

>>730615301
>40-50% of marriages end in divorce

so much for your credibility

>>730615471
In the end its your choise to be bitter and pessimistic. I will take my risk and see how it ends. As the bro above said maybe you just hang with the wrong people and date the wrong girls.

>>730615585
see
>>730615778

because too many of these faggots watch way too much porn and think that it's real life

does having a bigger than average dick help? yeah. but that was literally all girls cared about then they'd just get themselves a giant dildo or fuck machine that will never cum early and always satisfy them. but it's not, so stop worrying about being a dick and start learning how to be an actual man that commands respect from women

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Humans arent ment to be alone. It maybe hard to find the right one, but there is one for everyone

>>730615778
i'm not bitter or pessimistic and whether or not someone is or isn't one or the other, it doesn't change reality. good luck with your risk. one doesn't need a crystal ball to predict the obvious.

>>730616147
this does not follow

>>730616819
Saying that the most obvious end of a situation is the bad one is pretty pessimistic if you ask me. Realism is when you think that there is a 50/50 chance you will be divorced or not.

>>730615585

The cohort measure rate (40-50%) is probably the worst measure, but it's the one people can generally wrap their heads around the easiest - it says that in a given population, with a given divorce and marriage rate, 40-50% of marriages will end in divorce over a given period of time.

If you want to get really concrete about it, you can look at the annual divorce rate per 1000 people, which has recently hit historic lows, per the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm

You want to talk credibility, bring some numbers of your own, champ. Otherwise, don't bitch at me because the ACTUAL statistics contradict your hollywood-fueled delusions about how often marriages end in divorce.

>>730616955
>Saying that the most obvious end of a situation is the bad one is pretty pessimistic

this doesn't even make any sense, decades of statistics is not optimistic or pessimistic, it's data.

reality is not 50/50, especially with divorce rates. are you really this delusional?

>>730617279
reallity is that i see happy people and unhappy people that are married. Reality is that you will be either happy or unhappy. As said above go and live for real, dont read statistics. By your logic you shouldnt drive because there are statistics about people being killed in cars accidents and so on and so on..

>>730617279

You're right - actually, the statistics say you're slightly MORE likely to remain married than you are to get divorced. So, it'd be more like "45% divorce / 55% married".

But you know, I'm sure all of your anecdotal confirmation bias is a legitimate statistical challenge to the actual statistics reported by, say the CDC.

> decades of statistics is not optimistic or pessimistic, it's data.

Exactly - and anecdotes aren't data. The data says a marriage has a roughly 40-50% chance of ending in divorce. Your anecdotes say that they're all doomed, and people in marriages are miserable anyway. Anecdotes vs. Data - data wins.

>>730617493
>By your logic you shouldnt drive because there are statistics about people being killed in cars accidents
again with the strawman/drama. fucking ridiculous

>>730618067

> Conveniently overlooks the data offered by another anon that contradicts his points to engage in dick-waving.

> Declares other anons who provide data to back their assertions lack credibility.

How clever, nobody will ever notice this sleight of hand, bro.

>>730618314
>keep samefagging and answering posts responding to other anon...

>>730618521
It wasnt me ( the OP) who posted this. With only 17 posters its not samefagging its a discussion.

>>730618521

> keeps on ignoring data which contradicts biases