https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ1 naVy7ZP0 LIberals are cancer.

Science is a matter of politics.

Earth warms up, ocean waters rise
Warmer earth, warmer oceans means more turbulent weather, less area for habitation, more caustic oceans means less fish

You may not like liberals, but science doesn't care about politics.

>>730484466
that, and no one can stand Bill Nye's self-important liberal bullshit

Even hosts who are paid to be nice to guests can't stand him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhS6xNYz4GA

>>730484833
Who cares about the presenter if the information is accurate?

Are you saying the earth isn't warming? Its been the hottest decade on record EVER.

>>730484995

Yeah but this is normal and not caused by humans.

>>730485168
Oh boy.

>>730484466
It's funny that the GOP went from men like Theodore Roosevelt to being the official party of stupid.

>>730485168
97% of climate scientists disagree with you.

About the same amount also have written reports stating such.

If the earth is warming, shouldn't we stop using CO2 as it is a proven greenhouse gas? Shouldn't humans do everything they can to prevent disaster?

>>730485199

See this is where liberals break down and can't debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN5L2q6hfWo

They say stuff like "oh boy" instead of debating lol

>>730485168
Faggot.

>>730485308

Not true. the 97% number is inaccurate. Please do more research on how they got that 97 number.

>>730484466
>They keep attacking the president!

Well he's doing a lot of objectionable bullshit that pisses people off, even conservatives. And let's not pretend he didn't attack obama for 8 years.

>>730485321
You're in fucking denial thinking its natural. There's no debate when you can't consider the facts.

>>730485374

Only people Trump pisses off are crazy millennial liberals lol

>>730485349
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Im sorry 97.1

>>730485448

>Wikipedia

>>730485437
Trumptards are a special breed lmao

>>730485518
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

distrust a source if the DATA is flawed

>>730485545

In my opinion the liberal SJW college snowflake lgbt crazy people are special breed.

>>730485168
Source?

>>730485573

NASA surely isn't faking data in order to get funding from the government XD

>>730485610
You're not wrong. They both are special breeds.

>>730485168
Gud bait 10/10

>>730484995
Because it's not about the science, it's about people like Tyson and Nye pretending to be this ultra-upstanding, rational intelligent people to become relevant again and it's all bullshit. Bill Nye's 'science' show literally features some fucking tranny reading a poem about it's feelings and people praise it. This isn't science, this is people using 'science' to achieve their own personal political goals. Nye commonly says that people who disagree with him have mental problems to discredit them without reallybeing able to debunk them.

Besides, being a published geologist I'm more of a scientist than Bill Nye. Saying that the last x number of years were the hottest is meaning less when we have ~50 years of good temp data at best, more like ~25 for many places, which is WAY too short a window to be basing these multi-decade future temp predictions.

Truth is we have so little understanding about how individual atmospheric and climate processes work (let alone how they interact with one another) that every prediction is inaccurate enough to be meaningless

>>730485573
Skeptical science is not a reliable source. It's funded by oil companies as are the petition signers the article references

>>730485790
Link to your published article or it didn't happen

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>>730484466
not sure if trolling, russian shill or just retarded

>>730485655
NASA isnt the only source!!!
Universities, Science departments, the WEATHER CHANNEL

You just have to see how much particulate matter constitutes our atmosphere now from back before the Industrial Revolution.

NEWS FLASH - Its hotter now that heat cannot escape the earth's atmosphere as easily due to greenhouse emissions like CO2 and methane

>>730485308
we don't "use" CO2 dipshit. Unless your fucking Fanta is causing global warming. You don't even understand what you are accusing others of not understanding

>>730485790
>Making claims about credibility on an anonymous website

>>730485910

How about you stop trying to vilify anyone with opinions that are different than yours?

Now there's an idea!

>>730485950
We create carbon which binds to oxygen which creates co2

>>730485819
If they are funded by the oil company then why do they agree that experts agree between 90 and 100 % on man-made climate change

We're still not letting you drill in Russia, Tillerson. No matter how much you sperg out about it.

>>730486020
Climate change isn't really a matter of opinion, anon.

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>>730485904
you have to be fucking retarded if you think I'm going to post my name, address, and organizations that support me on here

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>>730486020
>LIberals are cancer.

are you retarded? did you read the op?

>>730485950
>>730486054
What about the use of or production of things that cause the emission of CO2 was hard to understand?

>>730486020
Opinions arent facts
My personal opinion is that a plane shouldnt be able to fly. Doesn't stop planes from flying though

>>730486111
Checked.

>>730484676
Trying to use logic against conservatives and tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs is pointless dude.

>>730486140
If you dont have facts or papers that have gone under peer review, how can we analyze your assertions?

>>730486140
So...Youre a 15 year old child who claims to be a geologist. Got it

I can't understand science so therefore it is cancer.

>>730486283
Well you cant let them spout bullshit either. Who are young kids going to listen to if you don't combat these people with logic and evidence?

>>730486140
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

>>730486166
WTF, that dude shaved everything but the beard on his neck. Please tell me this isn't some new style.

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>>730486319

>>730486417
More common among the rural trash than you'd think.

>>730486054
no you dumbass. we burn long-chain hydrocarbons which results in the oxidation (burning) of nitrogen and carbon compounds/molecules and make oxides of nitrogen and carbon (and sulfer, but this is more regulated because of the potential of acidity). We then often catalyze the exhaust of cars and factories to remove the 'poisionous' gasses like carbon monoxide. We don't just sling raw carbon in the air that is turned to CO2 by magic

>>730486420
I think you are misled as to my socioeconomic standing

>>730485321

There is no debate. It's proven. Even if it wasn't manmade (which it is), we know what's causing it, and that's a buildup of carbon oxides, methane, and other greenhouse gasses, and therefore there is literally no reason not to be doing something about it. Period.

The reason they say "Oh boy" is because they are about to have to try and reason with someone who is, at a basic level, unreasonable.

Oil lobbies are bumping so much money into making this a partisan issue and a 'debate' to keep money pouring in and in an effort to deregulate business environmental standards so that they can increase profits at your (and everyone else's) expense.

>>730485321

How can anybody listen to this tucker retard and take him seriously. He is so autistically trying to poke holes in nye's story with the BUT WHAT IS THE EXACT PERCENTAGE WHY CANT YOU TELL ME IF ITS SETTLED REEEEEEE.

Jesus fucking christ its saddening how people cant recognize this for what it is.

>>730484466
why did i just watch hannity act like a crybaby for over 6min?

Reposting a previous comment because lazy. Here is the science and why it works.

Humans burn carbon. This carbon during combustion reacts with oxygen in the air, creating carbon dioxide/monoxide. Carbon dioxide molecules are larger and heavier than plain oxygen. This means that the molecules more easily reflect waves and particles because of their increased size. This means they more easily reflect solar radiation back at the planet for a 2nd round or more which results in less of that energy being lost to space and more of it being imparted to Earth in the form of heat.

Another good example of this is nuclear reactors. Generally water or H2 O is used as a medium to reflect neutrons back into the reaction to keep the reaction sustainable among other reasons. But if you swap the hydrogen atoms in water with deuterium, which is a heavier variant of hydrogen, the water molecules become heavier and much more effective at reflecting neutrons because of their increased size, making the reaction more efficient by keeping more neutrons inside. Thus heavy water.

Additionally the carbon oxides get absorbed readily into the ocean, making the pH of the water more acidic, which affects life there.

Climate changes naturally on the Earth due to various factors, but it does not change this severely over this short of a time sans huge disasters like bolide impacts or volcanic activity, and such quick climate change is always accompanied by mass extinctions because most life forms cannot adapt that quickly.

We have severely exacerbated a warming trend due to our fossil fuel consumption.

The breaking point for this is 1.5 Celsius uptick in global average temperature.

We would have to stop all CO2 emissions at this point not to cross that.

After 1.5, you are looking at around 20-30% drop in coastal landmass. That will destabilize the WORLD.

https://coast.noaa.gov/digitalcoast/stories/atlantic-epa.html
http://www.globalchange.gov/browse/multimedia/projected-land-loss-sea-level-rise-coastal-louisiana
http://climate.org/sea-level-rise-risk-and-resilience-in-coastal-cities/

>>730486180
there's a difference between "using CO2" and "producing" CO2.

Is that so hard to understand?

>>730484466
Anyone denying climate change is a fucking moron.
Anyone claiming climate change is not caused by humans is also a fucking moron.

>>730486526
Listen fuck stick. When speaking to idiots you have to bring your self down to their level. I am well aware of the chemistry but when someone doesn't even believe something that's as proven as man made climate change you think they are going to understand how carbon dioxide gets in the air beyond drinking soda

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>>730486608
I think I am not.

>>730486720
I was writing fast. You point was about as useful arguing over punctuation and grammar in typed responses with limited time to proofread. You understood what I meant.

I know climate change is real, I just find it so incredibly fucking hard to care about.

I'd prefer deregs now for potential damages later that won't affect me.

>>730486295
because they have already undergone peer review, your assertions are meaningless to me. I've already been cited a few times

>>730486319
>>730486411
Samefag

Also if there's a 15yo out there who writes papers about inferring paleoclimate using weathering indicators from sediment input and microfossil assemblages then I'd like to see them

>>730486910
Do you want your kids to care more about when their next source of water will come from than what they will be when they grow up?

That is the level of shit we are talking about

>>730486874
Considering I am educated and don't vote for Trump you are. Maybe you meant to comment on someone else. I believe in science and I have money and I'm from the east coast

>>730486709
This.
Also other greenhouse gases like CFCs didnt help our atmosphere very much.
>chemistryfag here

>>730487110
Then show the papers. We dont care WHO you are we just want INFO. Not citing anything allows us to not care what you say.

>>730486910

But it will affect you. It already is. You think it's some problem 100 years from now when you're dead. We are already suffering the opening effects and within a decade you will really wish you cared about it now.

>>730487110
Not the same person a) and b) I didn't say there was. I said you didn't write a peer reviewed paper. Anyone can look up a paper topic.

>>730486720
Typical tinfoil hatter, argues over grammar and not content.
Shiggydiggy

>>730487111

If I choose not to have kids why am I responsible for any decision I make that effects other people's kids?

I literally want humanity to end with my generation. Therefor I'm going to live it up and not care about any generation after me.

If you decide to have kids then it's YOUR responsibility. Not mine.

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>>730487122
an educated person from the east coast of the United States would not say:

>I am educated and don't vote for Trump

so nice try Yuri.

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>>730485790

You just saved me a word salad, Anon. Bravo.

>>730485437
Yeah Vets depending on Meals On Wheels are fucking extatic about not having food fuck yeah!

>>730486709
you were right until your last two paragraphs/sentences. We don't have the resolution in ice or especially rock records to say how long ancient climate change events took to manifest. It could be super rapid (and even seems to be in some cases). We just don't know enough to make these assumptions

That being said, we should do our best to re-use shit and keep the nasty stuff out of the air and water, just not at the millitant SJW levels that people/other governments are calling for

>>730487288
You don't have to be. You are just a monster for caring about yourself over the future generation of potential billions upon billions.

If the Earth can no longer sustain human life before we have the technology to fix it, we will perish as a species.

>>730487288
>I literally want humanity to end with my generation.
Then you don't have any basis for other people to take you seriously. Just because you're self-destructive doesn't mean that others have to respect that.

>>730487111
Before you call me an edgy fuck
this guy>>730487288
isn't me.

Though like him I don't plan to have kids, I don't want humanity to die out after I'm gone. Just apathetic enough to not care if work is put forward into making sure it doesn't happen.

>>730487205
I'm not really seeing any visible effects right now, at least none that I'd consider an issue to me personally.

>>730487474

>we will perish as a species.

This is a good thing. Humans are a cancer.

>>730487578
Unless you're going to die within the next decade, you WILL be personally affected by climate change.

>>730486828
That's the problem now, we are dumbing science down to levels where it ceases to be accurate and more worryingly listening to the people that we are dumbing it down for. This goes for liberal 'science' marchers with no clue what they are marching for as much as dumb redneck science haters. Wrong is wrong, dumb is dumb

>>730487362
You got me. I'm a Russian spy who is trying arguing for believing in science and hating trump because he rejects the idea of man made climate change and has said vaccines cause autism. Trump hates science because it makes him realize he is dumb. But I'm a Russian hacker known as 4chan so what would I know.

>>730487578
Then you are a fool. I hope we fix this problem before you wake up to the refugees of millions invading your area because they all lived near the ocean.

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>>730487600
you sound like an angsty 15 year old

>>730484466
Isn't this the guy who thought Obama was a mental lightweight because he used a teleprompter, and praised Trump because he did the same thing?

>>730484995
just underscores how nearly all liberals are assholes

>>730487261
ask me a question about geology/palentology and I'll explain it, far beyond a google search

>put up or shut up

>>730484466
Fox news anchors are pervs.

O'Reilly - fired
Hannity - 2 women have come forward accusing him of sexual misconduct.
Carlson - 1 woman has come forward accusing him of sexual misconduct.

Conservatives are garbage and treat women like objects.

>>730487600
Fools are a cancer who would live for a few extra million dollars in their pocket over the longevity of their race.

>>730487683
/Thread

>>730487862
Who cares?

>>730484676

Shows that you know jack shit about the field of science

Like any academic field it's extremely political, often subject to academic culture and zeitgeist. Go back to /leddit/

this >>730485349
97% is complete bullshit

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>>730487709
it does seem we're on the same side

>>730487829
I have nothing to prove. I didn't claim to be something I am not. You aren't proving your claim so therefore you can be considered a liar

>>730484466
Nah we are based as fuck. Love how easily Bill Nye triggers conservative snowflakes

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>>730485308
CO2 is more deadly than Cerin gas

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>>730487913
Facts aren't political you dumb cunt.

>>730484676
If you watch the video you can see that Tucker is not denying that climate change is real or not but about how much we contribute to it to which Billy couldn't give a straight answer for.

Also yes we do need to protect our environment but we can find ways to do it without taxing the shit out of everyone to cause them to go into poverty

>>730487578

I hope you don't buy food, live near the ocean, or use electricity then. Or breathe.

>>730487913
The FACTS about science arent political.

I agree we make it political because we are dumb human primates

The climate is getting warmer. The sky is blue. Gravity is an observable phenomenon.

>>730488058
you got baited there

There is NO CONCENSUS. The 97% stat you all got shoved down your throats was not a survey of scientists around the world, nationwide, nor was it even a survey. It was an analysis of 11,944 abstracts by a climate alarmist John Cook. He found that only 34% of the papers shared an opinion on AGW and 33% believed humans had an effect on global warming in varying degrees. Cook ignored the remaining 66% of the abstracts and focused on the 34%. He divided 34 by 33 and that's how he got 97%. However, Cook did not consider the degree in which the scientists believed humans contributed to global warming and simply labeled them as endorsing AGW. 31,000 climatologists came out in protest against Cook's "study" and many of the climatologists who's paper's Cook analyzed claim they have been misinterpreted. Cook even labeled some of the papers who didn't endorse AGW as endorsing it. When corrected to find how many scientists in those papers believe humans are the sole cause for climate change, only 1% of the 34% of papers that shared an opinion believed it, out of all the 11,944 papers, 0.3% believed it. There's your fucking concensus. That filthy statistic is thrown around a lot by idiots like Bill Nye but couldn't even tell you where it comes from.

>>730487713
That'd be unfortunate, though mostly for the people coming to the area.

>>730488120
Thats an incredibly hyperbolic view of what could go wrong in the near future.

good climate change bait all trolls in this thread.

https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

anthropologically induced climate change is real.
help the world, kill yourself.

>>730485790
What no way you are a geologist, post your paper. They can tell the climate from the mineral deposits in the sides in the ground and sides of cliffs, fuck off man.

>>730487829
Why the fuck did you study geology and not one of the important physical sciences?

>>730487862
It's all fake. Same shit that they tried to pull on Trump during the election.

It's going to come out, and I'm sure an investigation will ensue. I have no doubt that these women were paid off to say this shit, and that when you follow the money that it will lead back to George Soros and/or the DNC.

>>730487364
>>730487897
Thanks bois. Problem is this kind of talk is viewed as a cancer at my institutions. Unless you are full of "Man is the only source of carbon/global warming" rhetoric they black ball you. No room for moderates or skeptical voices in the science community these days. Science is now a left-wing party

>>730487862
Irrelevant?

>>730485308
Once upon a time 99.9% of scientists said the sun went around the earth, didn't mean shit.

>>730484676
>You make not like Librals, but science doesn't care about politics.

Dumb Fag thinks liberals are science. Get a grip. Liberals are only force to destroy society. Free shit is just a way to remove possessions away from the people and into a few.

>>730487974
Proof?

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Lol. This guy >>730486166 doesn't have a job. He posts that same image which only serves to support the fact that liberals will even bully those born with special needs if they don't submit to their brainwashing political agenda.

Liberals are very tolerant, and always classy. Make sure you check yourself off in the "liberal" Democratic Party column. Stay classy.

>>730486020
You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

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>>730487978
NOT TRUE!
NOT TRUE!
NOT TRUE!!!!!

>>730488034
This is an obvious shitpost but I'll refute it to help the stupid people here who may believe it. CO2 is non-toxic, but it can cause asphyxiation if it displaces the oxygen in a room.

>>730488081
We can do it without adding taxes. Stop dumping so much into military spending. Done

>>730487990
>offers to prove claim
>you can be considered a liar

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>>730488384

Fuck you. Educate yourself faggot: https://www.thenation.com/article/the-other-poison-gas-killing-syrians-carbon-dioxide-emissions/

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>>730488236

Ok. Temp rises, ice melts, ocean level rises. It will rise quite a fucking bit quite quickly.

Rising temps and associated weather patterns will cause and already does cause increased crop failures, driving up food costs, not to mention the decrease in arable land.

Increased power consumption from AC especially in already hot areas will cause higher rates and probable blackouts (which already happen.)

Higher ocean acidity kills off more sea life, which disrupts more food chains, which again makes food more expensive.

Super hyperbolic. I didn't even get in to the good stuff.

>>730488396
You think the military isn't spending money on research which is related to using more energy efficient technology?

>>730486709
Thank you.

>>730488282
your fucking retarded. you realize that right?

>>730488524
Respect the reasonable answer, but your comment will be met with with bullshit troll bait.

>>730487862
Dude, idiots like you are the reason broads can get away with this shit. I don't know what backwards, commie, euroshit nation you're from, but it's innocent until proven guilty here. That's why bill Clinton isn't in jail for the dozen times he's been accused of rape-up straight

>>730488531
More likely they're pissing away money on a $400 billion fighter jet that is broken on arrival, and on tanks we don't need, aircraft carriers we don't need, and to keep people not cut out for college employed shooting at brown people.

>>730488215
>When corrected to find how many scientists in those papers believe humans are the sole cause for climate change, only 1% of the 34% of papers
Only idiots and bad scientists claim humans are the sole cause of climate change. Doesnt mean it isnt happening, and it definitely doesnt mean humans arent exacerbating it greatly.
Also, source?

>>730488531
KEK

>Saving the planet by conserving human killing resources

>>730484466

You spelled conservatives wrong fag

>>730487288
And here children we have a trump voter the most vile of humans

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>>730488215
>ilikethisguy.jpeg

>>730488215
Btw nice use of trigger phrases like climate "alarmist", you massive faggot.

>>730488058

Seriously your room temperature IQ is showing go back to /leddit/

>>730488151

Interpreting data and drawing conclusions from them are extremely political which in turn affect information (aka Facts). It's retarded thinking like yours that's dumbed down science as a discipline.

>>730488623
The fact that Fox had been paying off O'Reillys accusers for years before eventually firing him shows just how seriously they themselves took those allegations. You don't have to be proven in a court of law of being a scumbag for your employer to fire you for being a scumbag.

>>730488364

Shut the fuck up. This is a thread about science problems. Take your liberal/conservative ideology and shove it up your asshole where it belongs.

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>>730488019
And Yea, the gates were opened and the mighty country became a great park of trailers and the land of the orange king.

>>730488805
These same people get their panties in a bunch when people say "fuck your feelings" regarding their religion.

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>>730488674
Lol, he spelled liberals wrong as well. Oh well, that's what happens when you don't have an education.

>>730488669
sadly the biggest advances in our technology comes during war.

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>>730488730
>"Interpreting data and drawing conclusions changes the facts"

KYS, you're breathing my air.

>>730488863
So then why do we bother pissing away more then 60% of our budget on them when we're not at war?

>>730488236
>hyperbolic
And there goes your merit

>>730488215
>There is NO CONCENSUS. The 97% stat you all got shoved down your throats was not a survey of scientists around the world, nationwide, nor was it even a survey. It was an analysis of 11,944 abstracts by a climate alarmist John Cook. He found that only 34% of the papers shared an opinion on AGW and 33% believed humans had an effect on global warming in varying degrees. Cook ignored the remaining 66% of the abstracts and focused on the 34%. He divided 34 by 33 and that's how he got 97%. However, Cook did not consider the degree in which the scientists believed humans contributed to global warming and simply labeled them as endorsing AGW. 31,000 climatologists came out in protest against Cook's "study" and many of the climatologists who's paper's Cook analyzed claim they have been misinterpreted. Cook even labeled some of the papers who didn't endorse AGW as endorsing it. When corrected to find how many scientists in those papers believe humans are the sole cause for climate change, only 1% of the 34% of papers that shared an opinion believed it, out of all the 11,944 papers, 0.3% believed it. There's your fucking concensus. That filthy statistic is thrown around a lot by idiots like Bill Nye but couldn't even tell you where it comes from.
I doubt any Climate scientist would say that humans are the sole cause of climate change. They know that volcanic activity and even cow farts can contribute, but if they had been asked if humans are the biggest contributor to climate change I have no doubt that they would have concurred. Nothing like shaping the question to fit your agenda.

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>>730488854
I concur

>>730488524
I know that's all projected to happen, but it's not going to be nearly as soon as you seem to be thinking. Thats why I explicitly said the "near" future.

EPA projections for a 2 degree increase are at 2100. 2050 is their year for sea level issues to be more pertinent. That's a long fucking time, and long enough away that I don't need to care.

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>>730484466
ITT liberals constantly cucked by the Democrats.
These weaponized bottoms then spew the lies, distortions and general nonsense the "party" tells them onto the rest of us.

If you all could take a suicide pact (zero your carbon foot print) or an oath of silence; the world would be a much better place.

"But...but...Jimmy Carter told us all about peak oil, and global cooling (look it up ignorant shits) and Obama said the science is settled."

Science does not rest, theories last until they are wrong. You are wrong, now go away.

>>730488805

We don't want to see a picture of you and your mom, ignorant white trash faggot.

>>730488623
Fox anchors and conservatives in general look down upon women. They think that they have the right to violate a woman's rights. That's why most rapists identify as conservatives. The whole Bill Clinton thing is just mudslinging from the right which was never found to be true.

>>730488081
because he's perplexed by the stupidity of tucker

>"are you asking me when the next ice age would be? is that your question?"

lul

>>730486166
my friend from arkansas says a shitload of dudes have beards like that where he lives. He calls it "the Arkensaaaww" every time he sees it.

>/pol/ loves the fascism of the nazis
>/pol/ doesnt love liberal fascism

pick a side you pussies

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>>730489050

>>730488943

>didn't even graduate high school
>all his knowledge are from memes
>thinks wikipedia, Tyson and Nye present factual data

And people wonder why America is behind the world in education.

Is that geologist still around?

Did I find you?
http://www.ismer.ca/IMG/pdf/Hahn_et_al_PASADO_Elemental_composition.pdf

>>730489103
lol, they look like Amish

>>730485308
Even if that 97% number is accurate which I don't know if it is the case, that still means there ARE 3% of climate scientists who have valid opinions on why they believe that global warming isn't caused by man. If climate scientists can believe that it's not caused by man and they actually are informed on the matter, apparently calling someone an idiot for not believing in man made climate change is also idiotic and hypocritical.

>>730488275
you can. It's not in the "mineral deposits" because those usually refer to parent rock (granite, gabbro, etc.). we are looking at the rate of sedimentation (how much sediment accumulates in a given time, using volcanic ash radioactive minerals as time brackets) and also looking at how far the source was/how chemically and mechanically weathered the sediment is. Higher temps and higher CO2 levels make more more violent and acidic waters and more weathered sediment. If you pair this with the abundance of microfossils you can not only make assumptions about climate, wetness and CO2 levels, but can also compare areas across continents if the microfossils line up

>>730488949
There's a few reasons. One is corruption of course.
Others would be things like how only a few countries in NATO holds up to their pledge of putting 2% of their GDP into their military as well as the amount of military bases around the world.

Actually, "global warming" is essentially a misnomer, and in that sense, it is a hoax. The "globe" is not warming. It's not warming at all when you adjust for the surface temperature data based on the effects of urban development. In fact, the net surface area of the globe that has undergone "development" (including of course removal of trees--itself another problem) is the sole cause of "global warming". These are called "urban heat islands" and the net increase in temperature of the planet is entirely due to human (over)development. It has nothing to do with emissions. Emission reduction is another carefully packaged political agenda for those in the alternative fuel industry. In fact, if you completely removed all forms of fossil fuel and related emissions, it would have absolutely no impact on the "global warming" issue. Further, all models in contained systems testing for whether or not airborne emissions have an effect on "global warming" (i.e., an increase in the net temperature of the planet) have shown their effect approaches zero and is 4 orders of magnitude less than that of the urban heat island.

In fact, people, it is your cities that are killing the planet. While a lifelong Democrat myself, I also find it ironic that most Democrats live in cities and are essentially therefore the actual problem here. Republicans are far more likely to be conservationists as well, including probably the #1 form of conservation in the 21st century manifested in the "hunter" whose dollars are almost unilaterally responsible for national and state parks, as well as conserving land (and trees) worldwide.

>>730489220
Delete this. Now.

>>730484466

Liberal fascism.

To think the idiot who thought this up was the fastest sperm.

>>730485168
Drink bleach

>>730489053
Look at dis one.... shit spewing liberal about how Faux is mean to women.

Are the more mean than:

ISIS?
Islam?
Rap?

Find a therapist

Rural people shouldn't vote and Trump proves why.

>>730484466
even the US Military knows that climate change is real. Think about it, don't you think the fucking military would know, seeing as they have to take weather into account for any operatoin?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/14/climate-change-poses-significant-risk-to-us-military-report-says.html

and don't go crying "fake news" that's fox news right there

>>730484995
Sources please

>>730489343
>>730489220
Top fucking kek. Get cucked libbies.

>>730489019

You not paying attention? Food problem are already happening. You are spending more on food because of this problem right now. Two degree temp increase is for global average, and does not take into consideration that specific areas will be much more affected (looking at you California). 2050 is 33 years away. I hope you didn't plan on retirement in Florida.

Maybe if you don't give a shit about how 7 billion people are going to survive on the planet you should keep your shitty opinions to yourself and live your own way in silence instead of actively making it worse for everyone else because you "don't care".

It's like you people have no concept that anyone besides you is a cognizant human being worthy of any respect whatsoever.

>>730488279
because I get to get paid to camp for months at a time and ride in helicopters and use rocksaws and jackhammers all while drinking and smoking weed and occasionally getting to get treated like a superhero when I go to a school and bring dinosaur fossils and shit for the kids to fuck around with.

Yeah, sounds like I made the wrong choice

>>730489411
Here we go with liberal ignorance at its finest. You r opinion is a threat to democracy and you should be eliminated like the liberal scum you are. EVERYONE has EQUAL right to vote and intelligence, location, political stance doesn't matter. ALL citizens are equal and if you believe otherwise then get the fuck out of the country and hopefully you go with California forming your new country of Cuckistan.

>>730489477
>I said cuck so I won

Did you even skim the paper or just saw a link and a kek so your team must have won?
>Hint not even the right paper

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>>730489386
>ISIS

good thing king donnie got rid of them for us

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>>730489182

Actually no, professional here, power industry.
You are as deluded as a liberal/Antifa/special snowflake of the day ID can be.

>>730484466
>Liberal fascism

Are all Americans retarded?

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>>730489656
no, just the ones in the red hats

>>730489427

Speaking for the global military; shut it.Your
falsie data studies, mean as much to us as your pussy hats.
We of course pay attempt to tides, winds, etc. in military planning. Just as we plan multiple camp FEMA's for the terminally liberal.

>>730489820
So funny how many vacations Donald's taken, especially after how he said he'd be the type to never take vacations. All that money blown as well.

>>730488730
This is either a clear troll or a very ignorant person. In either case, ignore him.

Another of these threads.That is great.
This discussion is over, the whacko left over 3 decades, poisoned their own well.
Public support has slowly disappeared and no amount of fear-mongering will change support.
HEY, your scare tactics and data manipulation failed.
People can now call liars anybody who spouts 97%, etc. No one has ever been able to verify this shit.
The left's only value at this point is their insane venom. It is hilarious.

>>730489181

still grabbing for the lowest hanging fruit, I see. All you do is post stupid images and attack simplistic conservative posts while ignoring legitimate conservative posts. You've been doing this for like a fucking year, fatass neckbeard. You aren't the hero of the libturd party defending libturd "integrity" on b. Your heros amy "swine" schumer and john "cuck" Oliver will never even know you exist and if they did, they'd wonder why you stare at the ground constantly, mumble when speaking. They would however understand why you salivate at the sight of a 6 year old in a swimsuit because they are libturds.

You should make it a goal to actually be able to see your penis at least once before you die instead of refreshing b catalog every 6 seconds and jumping in every political thread just to post your same old tired images.

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>>730485408
CLIMATE CHANGE IS A TERM COINED BY JEWS TO GAIN OUR FUCKING HARD EARNED SHEKELS. TAXATION IS THEFT, AND GLOBAL WARMING IS A FUCKING CYCLE THAT HAPPES REGARDLESS OF HUMAN INTERVENTION.

>>730489605

So who's dick did you suck in order to get your job? Because if you can't even understand how statistics and data interpretation works then you're a fucking idiot.

>>730489528
>Not caring about something is somehow making the problem worse for everyone else.

Ok.

>>730489328
Totally agree. People think they are saving the world by driving the dirtiest vehicles to manufacture while eating inefficient, wasteful 'organic' foods. It's all politics and spin. Everyone wants to signal their virtue but no one wants to man up and live a hard, dirty and labor intensive truly "green" life

>>730489537
>EVERYONE has EQUAL right to vote
>gerrymanders voting districts to make it harder for poor people, old people, minorities, and college-aged people to vote

>>730489869
>Speaking for the global military
and who are you to do so? Why is the US MILITARY going to go against to grain, against what the Republicans claim and be straight with us on this issue? How can you not see how much money there is, in denying climate change and environmental impact?

The ocean is heating up, our seas are dying, and you guys are here with your fingers in your ears going "lalalalala I can't hear you."

>>730489869
>Speaking for the global military
You mean uniformed welfare queens?

>>730489656

It's not like 'liberal' Americans - and I'm specifically talking about the Democratic Party here - are even liberals in the proper sense of the word. Their party is a center right corporate globalist party. And it's not like 'conservatives' in this country are even conservatives; they say they promote smaller government and deregulation but in reality Republican congresses and Presidents cause as much or more spending increases, federal level power grabs, and beuracratic bullshit as the Democrats do. What do they conserve?

In reality both parties are just power shells for the same corporate elite, and they divide and conquer you by clinging to uncompromising partisan issues like abortion, immigration, and other stuff. Neither benefits you and if you can't see that you have no business commenting about your 'opinions' on science, because you probably don't understand even the basic concepts.

>>730484466
humans are cancer.

>>730489918
>legitimate conservative post

Sure as fuck isn't this retarded thread.

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THE JEWS ARE IN CONTROL! WE NEED ANOTHER HOLOCAUST!!!! SOMEONE HAS TO STOP THEIR FORESKIN HARVESTING, AND SHEKEL MONEY GRABBING SCAMS! GIVE YOUR ENERGY TO HITLER! WE CAN REVIVE HIM!!!!

>>730490144

Dubs confirm this.

>>730490003

Do you vote?

Do you share your opinion in an attempt to sway other people?

I know you do one of those things because you did it here. And I know you can do the other because otherwise your underage b&. So yes, you are making things worse.

I like how you ignored the rest of the post because you're having a hard time rationalizing.

10 years is all it's gonna take and you'll be singing a different tune.

>>730487862
Bill Clinton. Turns out all sides of the political spectrum can be molesters at times..

I remember when people thought the ozone hole was fake too.

>>730490572
BILL CLINTON'S A RAPIST!! INFOWARS.COM!!!!

>>730484466
Okay, so with the slightest bit of research ( something conservatives hate to do.), I found that Hannity is talking about Debbie Schlussel, accusing him of sexual harassment and then retracting her statement.

Debbie Schlussel is a conservative. She ran for office as a Republican in 1990. Here is a video of just some of her views.

https://youtu.be/qfFoADGFuu4

But please, do your own research. Poor dumb gold fish brains.

>>730490598
Only difference was that back then the GOP was entirely anti-science, only where it contradicted their religious superstition. Congress passed laws banning or regulating the use of certain chemicals and now the ozone hole is closing.

>>730490598

Isn't it funny how after we reduced our output of gasses that destroyed ozone, it started to fix itself?

Magic right? It like we have a measurable effect on our planet or something.

Conservatives can't handle reality. Fucking retards.

>>730490409
The rest didn't really seem pertinent to respond to, I know you probably think you made some pretty persuasive points, but I don't care any more than before and I'm still going to continue to act in the same way.

And I sincerely doubt you can consider saying "I don't care about thing" as an attempt to sway opinions. Unless you consider apathy contagious I suppose.

>>730490816
wasn't* entirely anti-science

JEWS ARE EVIL!!!

>>730485655
Pls be troll my sanity depends on it

>>730490843

All ideas are contagious if a person is willing to accept they are wrong. You and many other people are not open to that idea obviously, but others are.

I'm fully aware I will not convince anyone to change their minds because at the basic level people don't WANT to change their minds. My hope is that maybe like one person will suddenly see reason in truth and spread that to other people that will actually trust it, coming from them.

>>730491105
More likely it will take the stupid on the right to die off for ideas to be accepted. I only hope that they kick the bucket before it's too late.

>>730490682
I hope you are not the one saying conservatives won't research.
25 women came forward during Clinton's career.
Jeez, you have to be one dense MF, not to be able to name 3 or 4.

>>730491105
Well said. Most people don't understand a different viewpoint until they witness it themselves first hand through their own eyes.

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>>730484466

HOly fuck

OP are you trying to make your side look bad?

You post a fucking climate change thumbnail with a youtube link of Hannity bitching about some fued with some bitch he molested

shit you are dumb.

>also climate change is real

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>>730491290
I'm not. Lmfao, conservatives, liberals, they are all labels man. Just tools to divide us even further. I'm human, and I bleed red. WE ALL BLEED RED!

>>730491210

That's too slow of a process. Because the human brain is averse to change, cultures only advance at a slow pace as those resistant to change die off and younger people embrace new ideas.

Do not dismiss this as a 'right' side problem. It's a human problem and both 'sides' and everyone in between are very, very guilty of it.

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>>730491322
Of course climate change is real. Climate changes. It wasn't the same temperature today as it was yesterday. Climate change CUMFIRMED!!!!

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>>730489918
>legitimate conservative posts
no such thing

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>>730491569
All normal looking hair. Holy shit, why are Trump supporters so natural? HNGGG THICCCC

>>730489019
It's 2017. Are you ill or something? People are living a lot longer now. If you're under 30 you're probably going to have to deal with the effects eventually in your life. Also sea levels are already rising

The only people that call themselves conservative are braindead religious fundamentalists, rich people, and edgelords that hate SJWs (no shit retards, everyone on the left hates SJWs too)

Good job letting your emotions completely control your political beliefs, maybe you should try looking at some actual policy for a change and see that you'll agree with almost everything liberals stand for

Or you can just continue being edgelords and associating yourself with the party that exists solely to benefit big corporations and the rich at the expense of the lower and middle class

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>>730491665
good question

>>730491665
Yeah, because Trump's hair is so natural and normal. Just like his skin tone.

>>730491734
Triggered much?

>>730491526
Your mixing up the terms climate change and weather. You idiot

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>>730489945
>>730485349
>>730485321
>>730485790

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP


Aaaaaand /thread

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>>730484466
I love how conservatives encourage the idea that science should be politically affiliated rather than anything factual

>>730491734
I've noticed a sharp spike in "fuck you" politics. It seems like some of these altright folk are literally only on board because it pisses off SJWs. It's like damn, fuck them and all, but they've taken it too far. It's like a joke that caught so much attention it ended up attracting a retarded amount of people that actually are all about that shit.

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>>730491786
DAFUQ.

>>730491804
Blue bleached hair and piercings are fucking ugly. Rather have someone with natural hair, and a regular body than some artificial I wanna stand out with blue shiny hair bimbo bitch. ALAHAKBAR!

>>730491933
I was talking to the people that unironically call themselves conservative

>>730491526
this
>>730491947

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>>730492082
I'm a Neo-Nazi, thank you very much. SIEG HEIL!

>>730488330
'Dumb Fag' you capitalize proper nouns and the start of sentences.

>>730491979
The vast majority of the people on this board that call themselves Trump supporters are like that, they don't support any conservative policies, they just hate SJWs and enjoy chaos

>>730491968
When you say something so mind numbingly stupid that the other side has to take a moment, it's not an accomplishment to brag about

I am re-thinking my position about global warming.
It is accepted fact, there was an Ice Age.
' ' ' ' , ice carved the river bluff along the Mississippi Valley. Ice was 300 ft thick year round at St Louis Mo.

I just went thru St Louis and there was not 300 ft of ice. I now believe in global warming.

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>>730492125
First it was Global Warming. Now it's climate change. Why? Fucking jews man, that's why.

>>730491979
>>730492206
The GOP has spent year pandering to the uneducated rural filth and now they have been taken over by them.

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>>730487122
>I believe in science and I have money and I'm from the east coast

Come at me https://sayat.me/JacobBurgess

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I supported the movement. MAGA. But gonna be honest, Trump is a fucking sell out.

>>730484676
You're retarded. Earth naturally has warmed and cooled. Hence, ice Ages and non-ice ages.

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>>730492242

nigger what?

>follow link

>???????

>profit

>>730492448
>Trump is a fucking sell out.
The fact that you didn't recognize this from the start proves just how dumb you are.

>>730492206

SJWS are the embodiment of chaos but people think they can put out that trash can fire by throwing more garbage into it

>>730484995
Hottest decade "ON RECORD". Key word, dummy. You do realize we've been coming out of an ice-age for the past 50,000 years, right. Let's test the temperature from 4.5 billion years ago when Earth was basically a molten volcanic rock. I think it would be a lot hotter. LOL.

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>>730492513
He swayed me with his gangster ways. Like man, he had all the swagger and was all bout beating the globalists, but it was all a fucking play! ALL POLITICS ARE ACTORS! DEEP STATE AND SHADOW GOV IS THE REAL THREAT! RISE UP MY BROTHERS!

>>730492634
Exactly, the kind of edgelord retards you get in these kind of threads are literally just the SJWs of the right

It's two sides of the same coin

>>730492667
I want to know when exactly people America even was great. Regardless, we can't go back. Nothing more than a play of people's nostalgia.

>>730491973

Only people who have never spent anytime in academia thinks that science is completely factual and not subject to politics.

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>>730484676
This is so based, most people in this thread can't even comprehend it. This is the only post that mattered and it got first

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>>730492766
Dubs of truth. Fuck the left, fuck the right. I SIDE WITH JESUS CHRIST!

>>730492806
Seems legit

>>730484676
Science is about laws.

>>730492806
while this may be true, would be far more money in ignoring climate than accepting it and having to revamp all of our energy harnessing technology and move towards less polluting methods.

>>730486140
I've seen this picture probably 20 times, and just realized his shirt is both inside out and backwards.

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Liberal ideology. Pic related

>>730492772
right after WWII

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>>730489984
and now the conservative can't help but think about sucking dicks to trance away from the beatdown he just got served

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>>730492944
but is it his balls or a turd?

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>>730493043
Buy American, Hire American
FUCK SPICS, KIKES, NIGGERS, AND MONGOLOIDS!

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Lib-cucks are fags but you'd have to be really dumb to deny climate change. We can see it happening right now.

>>730493175
Why would anyone hire Americans when immigrant will work harder for less money?

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>>730493158
and by posting a version that high-res I have answered my own question.

>>730492826
Oh bullshit.
THE LEFT LOST.
THIS/THESE THREADS ONLY HAVE VALUE AS BAIT.
Trump won.
The right controls the vast majority of the states. Why????
The mentality demonstrated in this thread.

man-made CO2 is obviously why the ice age happened and why dinosaurs went extinct.

>>730492806
check
>>730492934

>>730488318
this comment is so stupid I can't even begin to comment on why it's so off base

>>730493329
>Why????
Because there's a lot of rural filth out there voting when they don't have any business anywhere near a voting station.

>>730484676
Science is physics, chemistry, medicine...nothing to do with Bill Nye the Liberal actor pretending to be ''Scientist''

>>730484466
He's an idiot. He's no different than sports fans who think their team is holier than thou and gets upset when their rival's players get caught cheating or using steroids. If you actually ask anyone who has actually played in higher level sports or in politics, everyone does it. It may not be right but it happens all the time regardless of what side you're on. I've been around a few D1 football players who just shake their head and laugh at people who screech about the other team "ruining the integrity of the game" because they clearly have no idea what goes on in their own teams program or anyone elses'.

>>730493329

Actually gerrymandering, misinformation, and backwards upbringings is why the right has more states.

The left focuses on doing the same thing in more populous states to make up for it.

Fuck all of you conservative and liberal faggots though.

>>730493043
Fair point, problem is we can't go back to that. WWII fucked everyone up so bad a power vacuum was left, being the only superpower by and large unharmed, the US was able to step up to the plate. Such circumstances are no longer present.

>>730493329
this isn't about who won the election you fucknugget

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>>730493537

>>730485790
Nye helped design and develop parts for the fucking Mars rovers, hows your geology homework going?

>>730493603
Any threads about science are directly related to the election because the GOP only wins elections with the help of the uneducated rural trash. Attempts to educate them run backwards to what the GOP wants.

I like how both sides and everyone in between is arguing about this instead of doing something to fix or prevent it.
Can't wait for them delicious chink nukes to hit us tbh.

>>730493177
I would rather base my beliefs off a book written by humans in the name of some Jewish guy

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>>730493329
I only come here because of how easily you can flip a conservative lid. I'm well aware they're either 19 year old autists and 35 year old losers

Food for thought;

At this point in time, the biodiversity of earth is at the highest point that it has been for periods beyond what would have been expected on previous mass extinction models. We, as humans, are living amidst the biggest diversity bubble in earth's history.

Mass extinction has been due for a while, and arguably, we have been experiencing one for the last 10,000 years. So why blame yourselves.

>>730493329

Also, he won in much the same way one wins a 2nd grade spelling bee. All the participants might know the right thing to say, but at the end of the day they don't really comprehend what they are doing and you wouldn't want them running your country.

>>730493699
>Attempts to indoctrinate them run backwards to what the GOP wants.

FTFY

>>730493537
Your propaganda masters teach that answer?
The reason is easy-Obama, Pelosi, Reid + 8 yrs =1030 state and federal seats lost.
I think the left should carry on.

>>730493853
And here we have a prime example of why rural filth shouldn't be voting.

>>730491973
I love how libshits think shit like gender theory qualifies as science.

>>730493841
>presidential elections=elementary spelling bees
We need to euthanize these millenials.

>>730493819
>So why blame yourselves.

Because humans are the only Earthly creatures capable of contemplating guilt and utilizing long term planning.

>>730493988

> I'll take metaphors for $500, Alex.

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>>730493941
this thread is about climate change.

>>730493924
Why? He's right. American education is a continual war for indoctrination.

Also, forced diversity is good because reasons and there are 50 genders. Also, you're homophobic if you disagree with me and probably a closet fag too.

>>730484466
Hannity, what a fucking snowflake.

Remember, facts are liberal leaning, and rich conservatives don't care about facts, only profit. (while poor conservatives are brain washed snow flakes)

>>730494173
It's funny to hear people with a GED talking shit about education.

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>>730493941
Why do conservatives not stick to fucking topics lmao
Also: Gender theory is shit, and conservatives obsess over it too much... like you

all these yurpoors starting flame wars lmao

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>>730484466
>science doesn't work
>uses a computer

>>730493990
And you're right.

So if the system is going to collapse, we need to put our focus entirely into perserving ourselves instead of trying to "fix the planet". Triggering the collapse on our terms is, if anything, in our benefit simply because we can prepare for it. And the first steps necessary is to begin genetically breeding the organisms that will survive the fallout.

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>>730484466
Just passing by to say that if you deny human-caused climate change as a fact you've lowered yourself to scum and need to go back to school.

>>730493916

Sure, propaganda is why I don't subscribe to ideology. I'm sure it has nothing to do with having a purely (or as much as can be) objective mindset and validating information before believing it.

It might also have something to do with never believing what someone says simply based on their authority or what I think of them.

>>730494289
>Gender theory is shit, and conservatives obsess over it too much
I'd say they obsess over it just as much as those staunchly anti-gay marriage politicians who get caught with young boys in hotel rooms.

>>730494264
Actually, I'm a biology teacher.

>>730494412
What purpose does school serve to those who are historically suspicious of educated people and education in general? The world needs ditch diggers and I nominate them.

>>730485321

Because it's pointless. You'll be like MUH FAKE NOOZ or SCIENTISTS ARE SLANTED TO GET THAT GUBMIT MONEY

If global warming is real why is it still cold here?

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Man made climate change is caused majorly by factory farming. GO VEGAN, OR FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, AT LEAST BE VEGETARIAN! MEAT IS MURDER!!!

>>730494624
Libcucks will try to desperately think of an answer for this kek.

The science is settled. The whacko left, lost.

This thread and discussion is irrelevant.

The rest of the world will not tax the USA for bullshit man made science.

This thread is bait.

>>730494531
The funny thing to me is how vehemently against fanatical bullshit this board used to be. Always praising science and facts over political garbage.

Now it's all brainwashed scum.

Fuck it. When Miami is underwater and NYC is starting to flood, you can all blame that damn Obama for not dealing with it while he was in office.

Fuck all of you retards.

>>730494810
You mean about 10 years ago when we were convinced everything would be flooded by now and Mt. Kilimanjaro would have no more snow?