Daily reminder that atheism is one of the main factor that western

Christians are responsible for so much death and evil. All the holy books are written by evil men, not gods.

2/10 bait, made me reply

>>730132674
Sup Crowder, how you've been

ITT - Delusional retards fighting about imaginary space wizards.

There is absolutely zero tangible proof of any greater being. All anyone has is a few thousand years of cult manipulation and their respective special book of space friends.

Religion is he single largest cause of violence, the largest hinderance to progress, and the largest divider of man. Ever.

>>730133137
>m'lady

>implying western society is failing
we're doing better than we ever have before

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>>730132674
Are you kidding
Christians are the reason we don't have better technology right now

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the fact that atheists always get baited by these thread proves how retarded they all really are

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>>730133137

>>730133446
Atheists are quite literally the easiest group to bait and troll, they're worse than faggots

>>730132674
I don't disagree, even though I consider myself agnostic. I just want to point out that the crusades were driven by Muslim violence on European nations. The crusades were a response to said violence.

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>>730133234
>>730133376

At least I don't talk to the air, believe in ghost stories, and eat crackers saying it's the flesh of the zombie god-son guy that died so I go to hell if I touch my penis for fun.

Neck yourselves.

It's fucking easy to not believe in a higher power. The only people that call themselves "atheists" are teenage (or even preteen) pre-faggots who don't get out much and like having a group to identify with and to make themselves feel Superior to someone else.

>>730132674
A typical christcuck answer about the faith's violent history.

Only monotheistic faiths kill overs for failing to convert.

>>730133705
Neither do I you massive homo, but much unlike you I own zero fedoras. Keep fucking tipping.

>>730132674
It's failing because Christianity serves Israel, not Europe.

It's failing because Christianity tried to wipe out traditional European religion, which is pagan.

Atheists aren't helping the problem but the real issue is that paganism isn't taken seriously because it's not about worshipping a Jew.

>>730133547
It's reasonable to be upset when we have people mutilating the genitals of children, people taking in billions of tax-free dollars for Jesus club, millions of people slaughtered, etc. Just for their Senpai.

Atheism is essentially the same as any organized religion. You believe something without any proof or evidence.

Agnostfag here

>>730133949
Aka I'm a fucking pussy who's afraid of affirming any beliefs because I'm afraid of being wrong or right.

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>>730132674
>main factor that western society is failing
nope fuck christianity, that religion crawled from the same shithole desert as pisslam

>>730133939
See>>730133949
You all sound like a cult members. Atheism is the logical refusal of a God based on the lack of evidence. But you fedora tipping Rick and Morty watching fags have turned it quite literally into a cult. I don't believe in shit but you people are so easy to bait it's laughable

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>>730133889
I wear no hats, and even have an acceptable BMI to boot. I'm also sure my paycheck is bigger than yours.

The image macros are nigger-tier communication, cuck.

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>>730133705
>talk to the air
we don't

>believe in ghost stories
we don't

>and eat crackers saying it's the flesh of the zombie god-son guy that died
it's not his actual flesh, his saying this while he's feeding his followers. It's his way of saying that he is willing to give part of himself for those who beliee in him. also he didn't die

>I go to hell if I touch my penis for fun.
you don't
There is no hell or evil torment for people only evil.

>Neck yourselves
You need Jesus

>>730134222
>you don't
>There is no hell or evil torment for people only evil.

Which Bible are you reading?

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>>730134222
>evil torment
ethernal torment, I mean

also those trips confirm God is real

>>730134202
Don't you see how you're behaving like a cultist, a member of organized religion when immediately someone's, not even mine I don't have one, belief in something supernatural is brought up. People like you immediately start bitching about what religion has done- all wars, genital mutilation, the death of whatever number of people you think. Honestly modern atheism is no longer that, it's anti-theism they are obnoxiously against the idea that someone might believe in a God, not even the idea of a God.

>>730134332
>Which Bible are you reading
the new testament

you cannot base belief on the bible itself, but by practice and action.
The bible reduces the very faith to mere paper

>>730133690
agnostic thiest or agnostic athiest?

>>730134222
222 is is 1/3 of 666. So if you divide the number of the beast by the trinity, you have your post number. Which means a Satan wants you dead. Neck yourself for Jesus. I swear m8.

>>730134167
>Le hat meme
>Le hat meme
>Le hat meme
You too. Find a rope.

>>730134028
>Implying not picking a religion is cuz I'm scared I'll pick the wrong one.

It's not a starter Pokemon you fucktard. Nobody would even pick religion anyways without it being forced upon you. If you were to ban any religious teaching to anyone under 18, he world would be devoid of this cancer in 100 years.

>>730134497
MFW when Christians try to distance themselves from the Old Testament because it depicts a homocidal and jealous Yahweh.

Yet it's still holy writ.

>>730134222
Bored?

>>730134605
Dear fucking God, this is too much fucking hilarious

>>730134497
>you cannot base belief on the bible itself, but by practice and action.

Yes, you're right, if you're talking about an orthopraxic religion like paganism.

Christianity is orthodoxic, not orthopraxic.

The choice for Europeans is not as simple as atheism vs Christianity. Paganism is an alternative that should be taken seriously.

>>730134459
You are correct. I am anti-theism.

The idea that so many facets of our world are negatively effected by belief in invisible overlords is disgusting.

However, I'm no cult member. I'm shitposting in 4chan. I'm part of no group. I spend no time on it. I'm a full time paramedic in pre-med that wants to see good I'm the world. I just think personally that belief in any God is a net-negative contribution to our planet, and thusly should be quietly looked down upon. Except on 4chan because fuck christthreads.

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>>730132674

>atheism is one of the main factor that western society is failing

I thought religion is why Western Civilization is failing?

>>730132674
>Many if not all great minds throughout time have ben christian to some degree. Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Galileo Galilei and William Thompson just to name a few

And they were all mistaken.

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>>730133949
>Brainlets still trying to sound smart be saying they're agnostic
Everyone is either gnostic or agnostic.
Most atheists are agnostic atheists.
Agnosticism isn't it's own form of belief like theism or atheism, it clarifies how certain you are of your believes. Pic related

>>730134920
Yeah I get it, not all people actually organize, and have I dunno atheistcon or something, but it's just the attitude that has bothered me, same thing as you did first. Something religion is brought up and you guys lash out with virulent hate. Has religion set back cultural, societal, political and scientific at least 1000 years- sure, but that organized hate towards someone else's decision is what bothers me. That's all.

>>730132674
>Many if not all great minds throughout time have ben christian to some degree. Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, Galileo Galilei and William Thompson just to name a few

Implying that they had a choice. Once Christianity became hegemonic it was basically unavoidable.

>>730135204
>cultural, societal, political and scientific
Progress

Kek al these autism triggers

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>2017
>believing in magic

>>730132674
Obligatory reply that you're wrong on all counts.

>>730132674
With that pic you mean cultural marxism by atheism and good western values by christianity, call things by their real name please

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>>730135362
>2017
>not being a superior christian but have no problem with muslims invading your country

>>730135204
I know hate is wrong and bad and all that... But where does hate come from?

Hate is simply the product of fear that what you hate will bring you bad things.

Religion has consistently wronged billions of people for thousands of years.

We are so worried about what is beyond life that we ruin life.

I simply wish for a world that we lived with focus on what we have, not argued about what we might have in the sky.

>>730135601

I hate both. Both are equally retarded to believe in magic.

Hey, OP, what's it like to live a sheltered existence without the ability to use logic or reason? Also, how long have you been wrestling with the fact that you're a massive faggot?

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>>730135728
>magic

>>730135674
>Hate is simply the product of fear

That's the kind of dumb shit people hear others say, think it sounds deep, and then repeat it thinking they are going to sound like an intellectual. It's like when you hear someone drop "rape isn't about sex, it's about power" with this look on their face and tone like they are Socrates.

>>730135601
>implying the mental illness that is christianity is "superior in any way

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>>730132674
This thread prove that the agnostics are superior over the cuckstian and the fagtheist. Logic and reason for the win you fucking retarded faggots :)

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>>730132674
>imagine what could have been....without Xtianity.

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>>730136044

glory to the one true King.

>>730136153
Yes. Hail Joffrey of house Baratheon.

>>730135860
Take a moment to consider, that maybe, I actually meant that. Because I do.

Cliche sometimes happens for a reason. Some cliche's are dumb. But that besides the point.

People hate things not for what they are, but for what they bring/give/do. Whether it's rational or not is another story, but it's my takeaway.

>>730135776

magical sky wizards with demigod offspring that are actually the father as well as the son, who then sacrifices himself to himself to save you from himself.... eternal happy land in the sky populated by angels, eternal no-no place in the ground ruled by demons, ghosts, magic tricks like conjuring fish, turning water into wine, walking on water, plants that are on fire and talking, a 3rd version of the god/demigod zombie son that is a ghost. It goes on and on. So yeah, magic.

>>730136110
rolling for joshua 10:36

>>730132674
The crusaders were not Christian.

>"Love each other as I have loved you."
>"When someone asks you for your coat, also offer them your shirt"
>"When someone strikes you on the cheek, turn the other cheek"
>"For those who exalt themselves shall be humbled, and those who are humble exhalted"
>"Whoever drinks the water I give will never thirst"

"I'm going to love the shit out of you by cutting your head off after torturing you and taking what you possess" is not Christian

>>730134222
>it's not his actual flesh,

Clearly you've never heard of transubstantiation.

It's always Christians who know the least about Christianity.

>>730136381
They were christians, though. You're just retarded.

>>730132674
I couldn't agree more

>>730135930
>>730136110
>basing a religion entirely on a book writen almost 2,000 years ago

>>730132674

Not religious, and can admit that this is true.

It's not an accident, either...

>>730136044
Why do I need a god to say that queers aren't mentally stable?

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>>730136381
Wow Catholic is also been Christian.

>lets believe in a book that somebody wrote 2000 years ago
>no miracles have occurred for 100s of years
>is able to tell you what happens when you die...nobody has died and told the tale
>if you were born into another religion you would believe in that religion instead

religion is like aids. good to know about it but keep that shit to yourself

>>730132856
>appealing to emotion
>assuming that the same shit is still done today.
wow, i would tell you to improve your argument but your atheists so that's probably impossible for you.

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>>730136533
>following said religion almost 2,000 years later.

when was the last time a bunch of atheists decided to kill another group of people for their beliefs?

>>730136381
>what you possess

you mean what you stole in conquest

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>>730136904
>being too stupid to raelize that christianity and the bible has changed
>strawman
>9gag

>>730136904

Kinda a dumb meme considering that these 3 religions literally believe in the same god, just following different prophets.

>>730136427
transubstantiation is a catholic concept unsupported by the bible.
It is obvious that anon is protestant and thus does not believe in transubstantiation.

>>730134498
Agnostic atheist leaning, but you know, if the good lord showed up and was like "hey I'm real" I'd be like "ok I guess I believe now"

>>730137148
this

transubstantiation was made up by the Catholics during the council of the fourth lateran based on some Aristotelian garbage

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>>730137080
>has changed
>still believing it whenever it's conveniently changed
>upset about a watermark
I guess the leaks are real, but the news is fake.

Christianity is actually the religion with the most blood on its hands. It's a fan fic of the Old testament. It's shocking anyone followed it in the first place.

>>730136533
>book written 2,000 years ago.

Most of it is even older than that. And it was written by many different people, most of it just being stories passed down from the depths of prehistory before being written down. And the ultra retard mode part of the final product of the bible is that it wasn't "written". What went into the bible and what was excluded was decided on by a council of Romans with their own agenda in mind. Nearly 2,000 years later and people are still worshiping the stuff they decided needed to be worshiped. Those men were fucking geniuses.

>>730137080
You're are stupid dumb

>>730137334
It's shocking that people were just as stupid back then as they are now?

>>730134711
That's one of the reasons that Christianity is so fucked up.

The Torah didn't exist in a vacuum. It can only be understood properly with the Oral Law (later written down as the Talmud). The really harsh bits in Leviticus and Deuteronomy are significantly tempered by the Oral Law.

This idiocy all started because a bunch of Roman and Greek dickheads tried to bolt their wacky ass religious beliefs onto Judaism.

The problem being that the only thing they knew about Judaism came from the Septuagint. A perfectly fine translation if you're a Greek that wanted to know something about what Jewish people were up to, but utterly useless for a proper understanding of Judaism.

It's this sort of bullshit that lead to, among many other things, the committee-created Trinity doctrine that is completely blasphemous to Jews.

>>730136904
>islam
killeveryone who isn't on our side
>jews
we want to preserve our belief while adapting to modern society, but we will not step down for anyone
>christians
we just want to believe in something, some of us are stronger believers than other but we're mostly the same. We believe in traditional western marriage and lifestyles but will not use violence to pursuit our belief
>atheists
OMG ITS 2017 AND YOU STILL BELIEVE IN A GHOST ??? XDXD! EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO PRACTCE FOR MY GENDER STUDIES EXAM AND GET MARRIED TO MY TRANSEXUAL FRIEND

>>730137446
>implying atheism is more than just a lack of a belief in a deity

>>730137105
Jews and Muslims believe in prophet Jesus idea, Christians believe that Jesus IS God, not a prophet of God.
Atheists have no chill around Christians and almost solely target them, i wander why?

>>730137411
Albert Sabin was a jew....

>>730137148
Some Protestants reject it others take a more metaphorical view.

>unsupported

Dude.

Nearly none of Christian doctrine is supported by the Bible.

>>730137334
>Christianity is actually the religion with the most blood on its hands
[statistic needed]
[citation needed]

Don't provide any, and your argument will be null and void.

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>>730137446
>secularist laws are why we don't live under a Christian-rendition of Shariah Law

>>730137080
>Allowing the commands of God to be changed

>>730137540
>Christians believe that Jesus IS God, not a prophet of God.

Yes, sent as a prophet, i.e. to teach/spread teachings. Muslims view Jesus as a prophet who failed in his mission. It's all so god damn retarded.

>>730137411
why are atheists only able to argue by memes?

Christians like James Clark Maxwell, Mendell, Darwin, etc. are all to thank for the science you claim produced itself.

Atheists in the grand scheme of science have produced next to nothing in terms of breakthroughs or anything useful.

>>730137700
>implying any of these things are bad

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>>730137857
>it's not bad
but
>only when your 'lord and savior' looks like pic related

>>730137440
Try reading some second temple literature.
It really helps to fill in the gap between the OT and the NT.

>>730132674
>Daily reminder that atheism is one of the main factor that western society is failing
Western society isn't failing, though, so what are you even talking about?

>>730137857
Yeah, they are. They are part of the reason why the world is going to shit, because literally all of those points are against the very nature of human beings.

>>730133137
>Delusional retards fighting about imaginary space wizards.
kek

>>730137700
>implying these are the only principles of christians and muslims.
anon. Those concepts are good, but that is where the good ends in islam and begins in christianity.

>>730138003
Do you mean to tell me that the world is going to shit? Please explain.

>>730138155
They are the principles of idiots who don't understand human nature, even though they are human themselves.

>>730137649
>Nearly none of Christian doctrine is supported by the Bible.
[citation needed]
please read the book of acts, and the pauline epistles.
Most of Christian docterine is supported by the bible.

>>730137700
>radical muslims
There are no such thing, mulims are muslums. Every muslim country use these laws unliek christian countries

>>730137105
No, they don't.

Judaism and Islam are the closest togother.

Islam is basically the idea that Jews screwed up in following the Law and it was created to get everyone back in line.

The Rambam considered Muslims to be monotheistic and therefore it was permissable for Jews to enter a Mosque. In contrast, Jews were forbidden to enter a church as he considered Christians to be idolators and polytheists.

Christianity is nothing more than a committe-created (The First Ecumenical Council in Nicea) bunch of horseshit that claims authority stemming from Judaism.

That's the reason it makes no sense.

Doesn't the bible condone slavery and selling your daughter for a few cattle or something? You expect me to take that religion seriously?

>>730135869
>Being this retarded
This anon btfo's you before you even posted >>730135130

>>730138003
>nature of human beings
Using nature as an argument is a really bad example. Humans have moved on from their primal and natrual behaviour which is why we live in a society that is dependant on other humans and technology.
Humans have abondoned their natrual instinct and feeding whats left of it with porn, sex and drugs isn't helping anyone

>>730137977
>Western society isn't failing, though
>now excuse me while i go get cuckheld by my transexual wife by an army of niggers while being pegged in the ass by some.

>>730138240
If you can't already see that virtually every society on the planet is being torn apart at the seams because we keep fighting over ridiculous bullshit like that, there's nothing I can do for you.

I'm going down to church tonight
Take me back to when I was eight
But I don't mean to pray
I'm gonna nick the collection plate

I've got nothing against church
Or any people that go there and show that
They're ignorant, I don't understand
A congregation at weekends can change their behavior

So many people are weak in their lives
And seek guidance from the pedlars of hope
As you know I used to go there myself
Until the day I became antipope

We're gonna have some fun tonight
Let's spread the news around the town
That the vicar's a transvestite
With a fetish for ropes and gowns

I've got nothing against church
Or any people that go there and show that
They're ignorant, I don't understand
A congregation at weekends can change their behavior

Religion doesn't mean a thing
Its just another way of being right wing
I think sex films are okay
I don't dig that all the way

I've got nothing against church
Or any people that go there and show that
They're ignorant, I don't understand
A congregation at weekends can change their behavior

>>730137971
There is no relation of the Tanakh to the so-called New Testament.

Post-Nicea Christianity has no connection to Judaism at all.

>>730138477
Does what other people do in the bedroom affect your life in any way?

>>730138480
No, I can't see that.
>there's nothing I can do for you
Just humor me and try. Explain what you're talking about. Don't give me this lazy cop-out.

>>730138460
>implying humans don't have a nature
>implying humans were meant to live by a set of arbitrary rules

>>730136381
>"I'm going to love the shit out of you by burning you alive for enternity cause you didn't believe these stories" is Christian tho

>>730138245
>They are the principles of idiots who don't understand human nature, even though they are human themselves.
firstly that dehumanises the group themself.
secondly, human nature is not always good. What is natural is not always good. It is a well known logical fallacy to appleal to nature.

Cancer is natural, as is murder, and rape. Yet you likely don't support these things. Why't that?

>>730138639
I get it. You were dropped on your fucking head as a baby.

>>730132674
> pic:
> atheism
> implies endless debt

I stopped reading right there. Confirmed for garbage-tier thread.

>>730138273
I double fucking dare you to point to anytihng that explicity supports the Trinity.

Not too mention that Paul was a lying hack who rocked up decades later.

>>730132674
But although I am an atheist I understand how religion works and why one would believe the thing I don't get is the amount of trust needed for it. I can't trust anything that much not to mention how Christianity has been used to cover great atrocities. Then again all religion has. In the end just not believing bypasses a few problems for me but if you want to believe I won't stop you
>I will however laugh when your religion fails

>>730138766
Not an argument.

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>>730132674
>The crusdades and inquisitions happened 600-1000 years ago and it wasn't really much considering everything else that happened that long ago.
FINALLY someone said it

>>730138750
What I'm saying is:
Why be against shit that does not affect you in any fucking way?

>>730134222
literally first link on google search
http://www.archdiocesesantafe.org/ABSheehan/ABSMessages/95.5.Eucharist.html
ya'll are cannibals eating a 2,000 year old dead mans flesh and blood

>>730132674
>Isaac Newton
Every time I see his name I wonder how much more shit he could've gotten done if he wasn't blinded by his absolute belief in a God-centric universe.

>>730138674
>implying humans don't have a nature
>implying humans were meant to live by a set of arbitrary rules

We have nature but we've adapted to live in a society, and this is the reason why humans have survived so long, we're the only species on the planet to do this.
To live in a functionally society you need rules and limitaions becuase you are dependant on other humans and unable to live by yourself

>>730138840
Never said it was. You are, however, a retard.

>>730138561
it does add some context though.
context is always good.

>>730138904
>implying God didn't make gravity

>>730138905
A society where we judge and persecute people who do things that doesn't affect anyone but themselves is not a stable society. A life like that is not worth living.

>>730138568
>he didn't deny it!!!
hahahahahhahahahahahhahaha!!!!

>>730138912
Okay I'll take this to mean you're too retarded to actually back up your claim that "virtually every society on the planet is being torn apart at the seams" and that you're just swallowing /pol/ memes whole without chewing them first. There are some problems in the world but life remains good for most of the first world.

>>730138904
For fuck's sake.

He was wacky enough that trying to understand "God's Creation" was probably what monitvated him in the first place.

I don't like Christianity either, but what you're saying is stupid.

>>730139216
>implying I didn't just come here to trigger a bunch of retards with wrong opinions

>>730139306
Oh. Well...okay. I guess carry on then.

>>730132674
Neither atheists, religious organizations or science knows and has all the answers, that's why agnosticism is most rational

>>730139306
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED

>>730139446
At least I have to pretend.

>>730132856
Yes, sharing and morals are evil. The first crusade was self defense

>>730139015
>implying Isaac Newton isn't God

>>730134369
well you got both 369 and 69 and I'm pretty sure some pope is 69 some poor kid. Not sure what this means

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>>730132674
1/10 Bait, lucky i repied

>>730138771
1 Corinthians 8:6
Collosians 2:9
Isiah 9:6
John 1:14
John 10:30
Matthew 1:23
1 Corinthians 12:4-6
Ephesians 4:4-6
I could go on.

The associated picture disproves your shit because nihilism is the singular truth of the universe. Think harder faggot

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Atheism is just not caring about god

>>730138825
>cover great atrocities
Not really atrocities if you have no objective morality now is it?
It was a product of the time by morally relativistic standards, so the idea that "i won't be christian because bad things were done for it" does not stand since the principles by which you determine right from wrong and deem those actions to be abominations is of christian origin to begin with.

>>730139741
No. It's the lack of a belief in any gods.

>>730138874
>Why be against shit that does not affect you in any fucking way?
because it does affect me and it effect everyone else too.
If someone acts sexually deviant in a small farming village, everyone is affected by the actions of that one deviant, and not just that deviant.

>>730139907
how?

>>730139004
What context?

The Holy Land was lousy with wannabe messiah's (not even remotely a religious term) at the time of the Roman occupation.

Between the somewhat complicit Sanhedrin, the crazy hardcore Zealots, and a bazillion rabbis creating a bunch of new sects, religious thought started to fragment.

The only connection there ever was between Christianity and Judaism were the sects that liked Jesus' upstart attitude. Those sects were still completely Jewish.

It wasn't until the Council at Nicea where the Pauline sect, bunch of Helenic dudes that weren't Jewish, that all the Jewishness was stomped out and Christianity was born.

That's all the context that's necessary.

>>730138884
>i don't know symbolism or transcendental meaning
>they say their eating flesh, they must be cannibals
>durr

>>730132674
get your shill followers away from me, I don't want to be controlled and I won't be, fuck off to your boring afterlife of non-conflict, I'd rather kill myself in infinitum than deal with another plane of existence in which zero conflict what-so ever occurs.
Not to mention It's a P2W Religion, If I make massive donations to the church I'll be in good standings and make it up there.
that's literally the dumbest shit ever.
fuck off faggot, 3/10 for making me angry and reply

>>730139907
I'm not responsible for other people's prudish reactions to shit that isn't even really their business.

>>730132674
>Religion is not anti-science and has never been.

Get a load of this retard.

>>730139907
No, they're not. Well, they're affected in the sense that "ew, he gay, he take pee-pee up his bum", but you can't fucking count people's precious feelings as a fucking effect.

>>730138905
appealing to nature regresses men to beasts anon. Shame on you.
>>730139039
The actions of a few can affect the many, same goes for the hedonistic behavior you are promoting.

>>730139610
Typical Christian thinking.

We'll just reject Isiah out of hand since the Tritity is blasphemy to Jews and the rest are the same half-assed:

"See, if you read this while squinting and have accepted Jesus, you can see it's all true!"

>>730132674
Social Darwinism >

>>730140008
>doesn't know the meaning of big words
>throws them around to sound smart

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>>730140050
>Not to mention It's a P2W Religion, If I make massive donations to the church I'll be in good standings and make it up there.

I'm starting to realize most people don't actually know jack shit about christianity.
But it's not even your fault, most christians these days are horrible people.
Jesus straight up hated rich and greedy people.

>Mark 10:25

>It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.

And yes, that does mean most rich people are going to hell.
Yes, even if they make a lot of donations.
Yes, OP too is going straight to hell.
Literally 90% of modern religious people are pretty much the first people that are going directly to hell after they die.

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>>730139741
>>730139858
can't even agree on a solid definition, you poor hedonists.

>>730140540
>comes from someone who probably doesn't think catholics are christians
Well played.

>>730139741
*Apatheist

>>730139044
Now you can return to yours...

>>730135362
>you're selves
>YOU ARE SELVES
say it without the apostrophe faggot. That bastard was only made because some idiot could not say a word with out shortening it

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>>730132674
>not being jewish, in 2014

>>730139978
look at human history and see that the actions of a few individuals can affect the culture of an entire society once it starts to snowball. Likewise the actions of a few faggots snowballed into gay pride parades that promotes homosexual behavior to children who witness it.
>>730140085
It is my business when people start making their sexual deviancy laws. Like tranny bathrooms, homo marriage, etc.
>>730140228
see above.

>>730140947
>It is my business when people start making their sexual deviancy laws. Like tranny bathrooms, homo marriage, etc.
What's it like being such an easily offended snowflake?

>>730140947
As I said, none of that fucking affects you. They only affect your personal prejudices because you're a piece of shit.

>>730139992
>It wasn't until the Council at Nicea where the Pauline sect, bunch of Helenic dudes that weren't Jewish, that all the Jewishness was stomped out and Christianity was born
you could not be more wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDG5U0inNlE

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>>730132674
Because the regions with a caliphate are doing soooo well today.

>>730140460
Thanks for clarifying how you feel. Now please provide an argument.

>>730140260
Here is a video make by someone proving you completely wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaXjVU05odE&index=4&list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TWpnOJV09MuEAwbbQNCS6Qf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNt5NKSse0Y&list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TWpnOJV09MuEAwbbQNCS6Qf&index=5

>>730140485
>implying I don't know shit about the religion
I was a Catholic alter boy
>inb4 >raped
Jesus was a pretty cool person, tolerant and generally loving dude.

The people who run the shit show are a bunch of greedy cunts who make teh religion pay to win

>>730140846
my what anon?

>>730141486
Christianity would actually be a good thing if they actually followed the teachings o Jesus. He seems like a based motherfucker. I'd do bong rips with Jesus.

>>730139534
bait harder faggot

>>730141714
You have to be 18 to post here.

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>>730139534

>>730141410
>>730141087

Your standards for "proof" are exactly what I've come to expect from Christians.

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>>730134605

>>730137446
you seem to believe that all atheist are trans modern tumblrina faggots even though they mostly do it because of overly religious households

>>730132674
If it wasn't for a lot of things, I wouldn't be here today.

If you're an objective thinker you accept possibilities, but you don't define them as true.

I believe in God based on my personal experiences, however, I'm objective enough to realize that I'm human and could totally be attempting to rationalize that which is unknown. Until then, I'm not going to claim I know God exists. because I don't.

So until then, my belief in God could just as well be a form of meditation.

>>730132674
We should remind you that christianity and the greed of their higher ups created and sustained the dark ages setting us back hundreds of years

>>730141009
i'm not offended. You are trying to make me ignore something that affects law, so i am showing you why i can't(and why you should not).
>>730141080
>They only affect your personal prejudices because you're a piece of shit.
Ad hominem, try again.

>>730142104
So because i use an unconventional proof it is invalid?

>>730143309
So why can't you ignore it? I missed that part. We're basically talking about trannies and buttsex. Why does that bother anyone?

>>730142104
at least watch it first.

>>730132674
but there is no god :)

>>730143309
>screeching ad hominem because you were insulted
Alright.
They only affect your personal prejudices. Faggot.

>>730142994
>the dark ages setting us back hundreds of years
that is a meme that holds no basis in reality. The latter half of the dark ages could be considered the first era of enlightenment due to the flourishing of philosophy, the arts, architecture, mathematics, and rudimentary science.

>>730143862
yeah that's not the dark ages that was the renaissance

>>730143536
>making laws about allowing men who look like women into women's bathrooms
>making laws changing the institution of marriage
>>730143860
No. Ad hominem is a logical fallacy that attempts to evade someone's argument by attacking theri person or motives rather than their argument.

>>730144047
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how+dark+were+the+dark+ages
pick one of the first few results and see that i am reffering ot the dark ages and not the renaissance.

>>730144135
>implying I didn't do both
Therefore
>screeching ad hominem because you were insulted

can I have porn now

I thought Kek was the true God?

And what makes you think Christianity is the right religion?

>>730144746
for whom.

>>730144746
Inb4 the bible says it's right, and therefore it is right because it's an old fucking book

>>730144406
Your argument was redundant. I showed you how the actions of deviants can affect a society and then you proceeded to ignore that and continue shilling the idea that what goes into the court is none of my concern.
Once it is in the public sphere or affecting it then of damn course it is my concern.

If a pedo assaults a child, of course it is my concern whether i am mad at them or not.

so stop saying that what is in the public's interest is not of their concern.

during the dark ages we were not slaying the muslims which gave them a great golden age

>>730145007
>implying i mentioned pedophiles
>ever
Get our of your fucking bubble and see how the world works outside your inbred community.

>>730144746
the fact that Christianity has done more good and contributed more than all the other 99 pagan religions combined.

>>730145134
I used pedo's as an example to make a point.
The fact you are dodging that obvious fact makes you very suspect...

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funfact the jews the muslims and the xians all worship the same thoughtform entity

allah is jesus and also all three of these abrahamic religions have the same origin. they domino effected into one another. every time you hear about a suicide bombing for allah, thats for jesus, man!

xian religion is an inverted opposition to paganism used to entrap and enslave souls by the jews. mainstream religion removes true spiritual knowledge and power from everyone and reserves it for the jews. thats why hitler and the nazis were pagans and hated jews, pretty much. that and some financial nonsense involving banks and whatever else, the degradation of civilization through opium, other drugs, race mixing, pornography, and so on..

the xian cross is an inverted symbol, the inverted cross represents the natural chakra allignment within the human body. in sanskrit Satan means truth. in Hebrew it means enemy. Satanism is a blanket term used to describe essentially any and every non abrahamic religion. and all of the non jew religions teach of chakras, energies, afterlifes, gods, healing, magick. the sumerians were Satan worshippers, the egyptians were pagans. jew religion has been committing genocide on non jew religious practicers since they began their line of shit. they erase people and burn records, destroy knowledge and rebuild things to suit the jew overlords.

if you read this you just got smarter. Hail Odin! Hail Satan! Hail Freja!

>>730136835
but the same shit is still done today? Look at the persecution of gays in Uganda, an 80%+ Christian country

>>730134222
Trips of truth

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>>730144746
also the story of the nazarene is taken from a bunch of pagan gods.. the crucifixion, death period and resurrection. the miracles are taken from stories of magick, for instance gsus walking on water comes from a legend that has to do with the beginnings of the shaolin temples. it comes from a story, or stories of a master, or masters of chi being able to walk across water.

with my hawks head I peck at jesus as he hangs on the cross. I flap my wings in the face of mohammad and blind him. I spit on your crapulous creed.

>>730137148
No surrender, the pope's a bender. King Billy's on the wall!

>>730145605
good point.
Maybe it is because Uganda listens to the OT and NT message to condemn homosexuality for what it is: an abomination?
The violent means are not supported by the bible, proper method would be ostracization until the individual in question returns to God.

>>730132674
>Chalks up the crusades to "everyone was killing everyone"

If you don't know much about a point, don't add it to your list of
>Muh points.

>>730145605
its a form of modern day slavery. i dont exaggerate this, if you have the knowledge then you already know this. abrahamic religion is a form of slavery. I can see this clearly. Im not angry, Im giving you the truth.

>>730132674
Daily reminder that if this actually happened A) the world would be a much better place unless B) you're one of the many demographics in the bible that it says kill.

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>>730146118
the world would be more passive. it would technically be a worse place since youd be believing in lies. it might take your death to realize it had been worse.

>>730145804
those are all debunked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeC5CTmGeQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FR08QtvapM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq8fFw-oV3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muM7Uk40iRE

>>730146056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oss10S0GF78

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proof the jews hate you. pic related. this is what all those banking and media elites actually believe, while you watch their crap and listen to their music and eat their shit food.

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>>730132674
OP I love you God bless!

>>730146305
They're not debunked. There's over twenty of them you fool. what will it take to open your eyes? how coincidental and ironic is it that the chosen one of the jew religion is himself a jew? you watched a video.. youre an idiot still.

>>730145997
Just out of curiosity, do you believe that the bible never incites any violence or just never incites violence against gays?

>>730146056
I'm sorry, I'm kind of missing your point here

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>>730146473

>>730146677
then its not time yet for you. you are a Gentile soul, you don't belong in xianity.

>>730145582
>if you read this you just got smarter
Actually, it seem like I have lost 30% of my cerebral matter by reading your post.

>>730146749
Nae fucking bother

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>>730132674
>Daily reminder that atheism is one of the main factor that western society is failing

Tell meore about all the pedo priests raping children

>>730146598
>love your neighbor as yuorself
>love your enemy
>do unto others as you would have done unto you
>turn the other cheek
do any of these support violence?

>>730145582
This except keep Satan out of this because Satan only exists in opposition to Yahweh.

Also Satanism isn't really the blanket term; paganism is. Pagan derives from the Latin for rural because in the later days of the Empire the polytheists had to leave the cities for the country to worship their gods because they wanted to avoid being persecuted.

The Christian cross was also appropriated from Roman polytheism as the Vestal virgins wore cross necklaces.

It's so obvious that Christianity is a lie, that whoever calles himself Christian it's stupid, at least in that part of his or her mind

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>>730146813
how, you idiot? you think im misleading you?

>>730146588
you watched a video.. youre an idiot still.
No i provided them to show you how all these comparisons between jesus and pagan gods has been shown to be made up shit coming out of someone's ass in almost every case.
Now watch at least one and see what i am talking about.

>>730146933
None of those do
but this does
>if a woman isn't still a virgin by the time she is to be married, she is to be stoned to death

>>730145582
youre so wrong.

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>>730146705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IffNsK_fdoY

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>>730147174
not even 1%. I spit on your crapulous creed.

>>730146705
so what? religion is made up of rituals as well as beliefs

>>730146705
I thought it came from the Germanic Eostre?

Polytheist either way...

>>730146283
Holy shit! That is a beautiful picture!

>>730147230
I can tell by his voice that hes a christian. believe what you want, we're all Gentiles. your pagan and germanic ancestors are turning in their graves.

>>730138768
The endless debt is a consequence of inflation.

The Bible forbids inflation.

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>>730147044

>>730147160
>STD's are a thing
>Slutty women make a slutty society
when you actually consider God as a Machiavellian you realize that his seemingly evil action in the OT server purposes that ultimately spared Judea of travesties other societies suffered.

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>>730147436

>>730132674
>muh Christianity
The difference between a cult and a religion is that in a cult, there's someone up at the very top who knows that it's all bullshit. In a religion, that person is dead.

>>730147440
>didn't even listen to the guy's argument
plato is crying.

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

The real truth appears in the "Holy Bible" where for one, crimes against children are rampant; the most notable being the evil "God" Jehova making a living blood sacrifice of his son, [child murder] which is the entire theme of the Christian mass/service; a simulated living blood sacrifice, proving who he really is. For more detailed information, see The Christian Mass/Service: a Simulation of a Human Blood Sacrifice

Deuteronomy 2:33
And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
2:34
And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.

Deuteronomy 7:23
But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty destruction, until they be destroyed.
7:24
And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them.

Exodus 23:18
Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread; neither shall the fat of my sacrifice remain until the morning.

"A MURDERER AND A LIAR FROM THE BEGINNING"

Numbers 25:16
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
25:17
Vex the Midianites, and smite them

In this thread: every conceivable logical fallacy...and then some.

I know most of you are 12, but for those of you that aren't...can't you take a critical thinking class, or forensics, or anything that will teach you simple logic?

>>730147588
Right but the bible does incite violence, disproving your original point...
Unless you're not the guy I was originally talking to?

You're saying that religion isn't anti science yet the church didn't accept Charles Darwin's theory of the species until 1950.

QUOTES FROM THE JEWISH TALMUD: Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

MAKING SLAVES OF THE GENTILE WOMEN AND CHILDREN:
31:9
And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
31:10
And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.
31:11
And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.


QUOTE FROM THE JEWISH TALMUD:
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

MORE MASS MURDER AND GENOCIDE OF GENTILES. THE TAKING OF ALL GENTILE PROPERTY IS A BLATANT EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS DONE TO MODERN DAY PALESTINE (DESCENDED FROM THE PHILISTINES) BY THE BANDIT STATE OF ISRAEL:
Deuteronomy 2:20
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
2:21
A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
2:22
As he did to the children of Esau, which dwelt in Seir, when he destroyed the Horims from before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead even unto this day:
2:23
And the Avims which dwelt in Hazerim, even unto Azzah, the Caphtorims, which came forth out of Caphtor, destroyed them, and dwelt in their stead.)


QUOTE FROM THE JEWISH TALMUD: Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

>>730147494
the bible forbids greed and wastefulness too.
If society were christian and followed those principles then consumerism could not exist.

>>730147708
guy? thats not a guy. it sounds like a tranny faggot to me. the more jew cock he sucks the less likely anyone is to listen to him when he opens his mouth.

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>>730147619

>>730147659
A cult:
>hard to get in
>hard to leave
>very secrative
A religion:
>easy to get in
>easy to leave
>open to public obseervation

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>>730148115
a cult is not hard to get into.

>>730148109

>>730148053
You refuse to listen to his argument to begin with so your's is discarded.
>Fucking atheists unwilling to listen to differing opinions or dissenting arguments.

>>730148115
A cult:
>sacrifices a virgin every new moon
>drinks lamb blood
>wear hooded robes
>controls the world
A religon:
>dude god lmao

>>730132674
>Christians are the saviors of the western world because they're the only ones who follow christian morality standards

This is some retarded circular logic. Of course you're the good guy by the standards you made up.

>>730132674
my blood is wine and my flesh is bread and i can walk on water and shit

ok OP

atheism is the future, created by the west, west is the future, every religions are the past

>>730132674
>be fruitful and multiply
there are about 7 billion humans on the planet I think we can stop fucking each other for a while
>seek first the kingdom of god
i will not spend my entire life striving for something that has not been proven to exist
>The way and the truth
the bible is true because god says so and god is right because the bible says so
>all equal in christ
except for gays, atheists, people of other religions, slaves, etc
>Give to the poor
this is actually a morally good teaching that i have no objection to
>many mansions and a place prepared for you
once again this statement has not been proven
>Two genders
this is also correct

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>>730148287
im not an atheist. your ancestors were flayed over this

>>730147915
I believe that there are times when violence may be a necessity, but that it should be avoided unless there is absolutely no other options. That as Christians we should live mercifully and have mercy unto the sinners as God has mercy unto us.

You said you were asking out of interest, is this are argument now?

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>>730132674
Atheism is cancer, it breeds faggotry, and all kind of degeneracy.

Atheists are like AIDS

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>>730148675

>>730148215
You don't exactly just walk into a free-mason building and start calling yourself one.
With Christianity, you just start becoming one and get baptized if you want to make it official.
>>730148313
That is the stereotype of a cult but it is not the universal trait of cults. Some cults (like Scientology) don't to sacrifices.

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>>730148827

>>730147997
So you agree that society should be more Christian?

>>730148419
Atheist or not the fact stands: if you are not willing to listen to someone's argument then you are a retard.
At least watch the video in full and then you can tell me that Easter is a pagan holiday.

>>730148850
theres nothing official about baptism. its a jewish mock sacrifice ceremony where they replace your Gentile soul. jewish sacraments are non binding. theyre not real and have no effect. its bullshit.

>>730148675
>>730148827
>>730148916
badass

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>>730148993
im not a retard, you fucking idiot. shows how full of shit you are.

>>730149087
thats what your ancestors believed in. rather than priests fucking children and hypnotizing them to remove the memory of it.

>>730148468
Correct me if I'm wrong but your original point was an attempt to refute an argument regarding support for violence in the bible? Which was then disproved..

>I believe that there are times... God has mercy unto us.
TBH, it kind of seems like you're just moving the goalposts now.

>You said you were asking out of interest, is this are argument now?
Implying curiosity can't lead to disagreement

>>730148215
Anymore like the first two? Keep em coming regardless

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>>730149191
not true but my ancestors did believe in some cool shit
>pic related

>>730148395
here is a copypasta from an argument i had with an Agnostic:
AS:
Not that guy, actually another atheist, or more precisely an agnostic spiritualist

But: What exactly connects the evidence for your beliefs to the beliefs themselves? Common sense, right? If I do X and get Y, and this happens several times in a row and doesn't happen when I don't do X, common sense dictates X entails Y. You know what dictates that? Common sense. It's not necessarily even true, it could just be a highly unlikely sequence of coincidences.

Well, I'm not religious (just a spiritualist) but let's suppose I were. I see a
thing. Common sense dictates Z about that thing. But my will to believe in a
higher power on the basis of sentimentality--my "faith"--dictates W. Because
I value faith over common sense, I choose W.

Which is better? Obviously common sense, right? But let's take a moment to think about why that's so obvious. Of COURSE common sense is more reliable than faith, that's just--say it with me--common sense. C-o-m-m-o-n-space-s-e-n-s-e. So maybe YOU think common sense is more reliable than blind faith, but because common sense itself is what persuades you to think that, it's circular reasoning.

>>730149039
then forgo the batism and you will still be christian.
Not exactly something cult-like.

>>730149095
then watch the full thing instead of stopping 10 seconds in.

>>730132674
stopped reading at
>Religion is not anti-science and has never been.
8/8 obvious b8 m8

>>730132674
daily reminder: atleast we accept that we fail on our own. And are as educated not to blame some made up figure for our failures.

>>730132674
>2017
>believes in a supernatural being
>topkek

also the reason our society is in a position TO FALL, is because of atheist scientists. check mate christfags.

>>730132674
Remember the "dark age"?

>Religion sole reason for dark age
>religion is not anti sicence
>REEEEEE

>>730149236
>TBH, it kind of seems like you're just moving the goalposts now.
if so then that is not my intetion. I think i didn't clarify earlier so i went ahead and stated the full of my thoughts on violence in Christianity.

>Implying curiosity can't lead to disagreement
dang. sorry for implying that anon.

>>730149602
>obvious b8 m8
then why did you reply?

>>730149431
underrated

>>730150323
No problem, big man
But do you accept that the bible incites violence?

>>730150054
this was debunked earlier anon.
Dark ages were first age of enlightenment, biblical scholars and anthropologists both agree on this commonly held fact.

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>>730148395
>it's our responsibility to stop multiplying because other countries are too stupid to control their own populations
spoken like a true cuck

and servants/slaves in the bible still have rights. it's a job position with a contract, same as what we do today. they don't have anything revoked from them.

>>730150392
It's a saturday night and I'm on 4chan and you're asking me why I'm taking part in shit threads?

>>730149627
>atleast we accept that we fail on our own. And are as educated not to blame some made up figure for our failures.
but Christians are taught the same thing anon (at least in my case) When my failure is my own doing i am to blame and take the responsibility for it.
I don't know how you argument can stand, are you just this oblivious to how Christians think and operate?

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>>730150512
In some cases, yes it does incite violence.
Not in all cases tough, and not as a first resort to problems, but a last resort.
I follow Christ's laws first though, and when i do that i find that no situation except an emergency ever requires violent recourse.

>>730150743
fair enough.

>>730138277
>There are no such thing, mulims are muslums
I agree, but I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as "radical islam". It's just islam