>consider the following Ok, I'm not really into all

so the people she wants to push out of france helped her with her campaign to push those same people out of france

>>730023019
ooooor someone paid someone to make these things happen.

What business ISIS or any other stupid shit have in right-wing politician's success? Why not lay low for a while and let leftists win so they could still operate without a problem?

>>730023257
>Why not lay low for a while and let leftists win so they could still operate without a problem?

That's hard to disagree with

>>730023333
and I know the Occam's razor principle and everything, but if you think about it for a while... would the right-wing politicians pay to make these attack's happen? Or maybe some third party?

>>730022584
Dude, it's not a conspiracy, mudslimes are just like that.

I hope Le Pen wins

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>>730023570
terrorist leaders are not fucking stupid - I'd say quite the opposite.

>>730023257
Because ISIS's endgame is to make Muslims look oppressed so they can recruit. You think they just want to kill like 20 people at a time and that's their plan? No, they do that shit to bait us into responding so they can say that we're evil for bombing them and trying to ban Muslims and all that shit.

Make no mistake, Le Pen winning is a win for ISIS.

>>730023019
the people giong for this theory argue that they want chaos, they want to league moderate muslims against the population so that islamism takes over, electinf le pen ould lead to that

>>730023895
exactly this

>>730022584
She's not very right wing on labor and a few other things. She just believes in sovereignty and French cultural identity, which makes her basically a fascist to many westerners. Honestly, I thought the attack would only force the French voters to double down on their open society insanity. Paris doesn't even look like Paris anymore. After the last 30 years of left wing control, it's like it's lost all of its identity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

>>730023895
I pretty much agree

Those attacks are like christmas present for Le Pen with no gain for ISIS

>>730022584
>violent migrants enter country
>people get sick of it
>politician takes up the cause
>violent migrants carry on being violent
yes OP what you said is the only possible explanation.
250 people have been killed by islamics since 2015 in france

>>730023990
Paris syndrome doesn't have have to do with losing its identity, just that reality crushes the delusional expectations and idyllic representation of paris in eastern culture

>>730023895
This. Couldn't agree more.

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>>730024164
I don't claim it's THE explanation. I'm just wondering.

Also - terrorists are well organized and coordinated. I wrote few thesis on terrorism and it's more complex than it looks on the outside.

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All the French attacks were run by the intel services out there some with help from Mossad.

Even a child can see this

>>730024164
Man thats tragic. Btw how many people died in Syria since 2015 ?

>>730024532
>Man thats tragic. Btw how many people died in Syria since 2015 ?

kek'd

>>730023895
This is pretty much what currently happens with the French muslims who go to radical islam or ISIS. They feel rejected by society, alone and clueless. Easy prey for manipulators.

>>730022584
Nah, she's just pissy because nobody likes to fuck French women once they've turned 16.

>>730023895
I second this. inteligent answer on /b/ is very rare

>>730024532
It's so stupid that this question doesn't get asked more.

>>730023895
This post basically explains what I said in my post >>730023990


It's like the only solution contemporary western voters have is to double down on politicians that take us to war against Muslims for the sake of monetary dominance in the regions. The same politicians that go on and on about our need to sacrifice our identity and open our boarders to these people.

It's like you have no foresight.

>>730024351
I challenge you to talk to a Japanese person and ask them to describe what led to their angst and depression about the city. They will tell you: it's not French anymore. It's covered in trash and looks like a 3rd world country, with some classical and postmodern architecture.

They were expecting an ideal, absolutely. And it's nothing like that anymore.

>>730024532
>people
none

>>730024617
Exactly. And if Le Pen wins, then you have a leader in the country you're living in literally telling you you're not welcome there. It's not going to make the situation better.

This is a very complex issue and there really doesn't seem to be a clear solution to fix shit, but further alienating these people is just going to make shit worse.

>>730024978
youre a fucking idiot. the only good muslim is a dead muslim. deport them or kill them, and youll have no more terrorist attacks

>>730023895
Yes. Muslims extremists want anti muslim sentiment in western countries so they can recruit more. Far right populist leaders are their wet dream.

>>730022584
>Dude, do you think it's some kinda conspiracy that an anti-immigration politician would become popular around the same time mudslime immigrants can't stop murdering people?

No, dipshit. That's literally how politics works.

>>730022584
or it just comes to show that what she's saying makes sense and that the more we wait the more relevant it becomes

>>730025109
Protip: they outnumber us. We can't kill 1.5 billion people. If you declare open war against Islam, they will declare open war against us. You think it's bad when it's just the radicals actively fighting us, wait till you see the body count when we're fighting 1.5 billion pissed off muslims.

>>730024532
couldnt tell you. but seeing as it is a war zone and not a country at peace that let in thousands upon thousands of people fleeing that warzone and northern and western africa i imagine it would be alot

But this goes further - if Le Pen is to make another crumble in the EU, then maybe there's really other political player involved? Russia? Probably too obvious.

>>730025109

404: Nuance not found

>>730022584
I was joking about something similar today, about how liberals are upset when muslims commit mass murder and acts of terror because it seems to confirm the hatemonger view that muslims do such things. Like, it never occurs to a liberal that maybe the so-called hatemonger might be right.

>>730024978
Precisely. What we need is more tolerance. The regular attacks will just make us strong. When they run us over with a truck, we'll just hose away the remains and go shopping the next day. And we'll hold a vigil there for a week or so, to light candles and etc..

When a Muslim rapes a 10 year old boy, we'll understand that it's just cultural differences and let him go back to his state-funded flat, with his state funded phone. Because we don't want to hurt the feelings of Muslims... t-they may attack us or join a bad group if we don't

>>730024978
They're gonna kill you if you welcome them, they're gonna kill you if you don't.

The only way to convince them to not kill you is to convert to Islam. They might still kill you then, but it is less likely.

>>730025346
>No, dipshit. That's literally how politics works.

Terrorists are organized and can plan ahead too. Thinking that an organization that can fuck up a whole country and play two major players (USA and Russia) do unplanned, reckless moves is retarded.

>>730024814
Yeah sure, that's what a japanese would tell me, maybe it got worse but for exemple, Pigalle can be nice but the surroundings has always been shitty, this is not a nowadays issue

>>730023895
This is the most cancerous faggotry you see these days: "Teach muslim extremists s a lesson by electing feckless, weak, ineffective multiculturalists. That'll show 'em."

>>730025361
So why not just vote for a politician that doesn't like these bullshit wars (like La Pen) or a politician who is against importing double digit IQ Muslims en masse (like La Pen)?

>>730025454
No, that's stupid too. Like I said, there isn't really a clear solution, but it seems like what we need to do is empower the moderates and win them over so they'll reject the radicals. Blind tolerance won't accomplish that, but populism and hatred will lead to endless war.

Those are literally the only two options: endless war or try to find a way to establish peace. That's all we got. Killing every last one of them is not a viable option.

>>730024532
why should anyone care about another country's civil war?

>>730022584
no, the french are too stupid and the country is too far gone to immigrants who hate europe. they will keep voting for their cucked failed socialist faggots to get free handouts and bring more muslimbros into the country

the police actually caught 2 guys with an arsenal and bombs just a week ago who were planning an attack on the voting day. the terrorists just want to make a political statement, they dont give a shit who wins the presidency, if its not some mohammad who advocates for sharia law sitting in presidential desk they are going to blow shit up every election

>>730025755
Because then you radicalize the ones who are already there and give ISIS more recruitment tools.

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>>730025636
>maybe it got worse
>maybe

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>>730023895
>>730023988>>730024419
>>730024756
>

not even close retards

>>730025361
leftist answer: we can't beat all these muslims, let's let them all in our country.

>>730025939
What's your solution, then?

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>>730022584
Hey, you want a nice conspiracy ?
How comes Putin wanted Trump for America, knowing that Trump doesn't like the EU ?
How comes Putin and right wing anti europe parties are friend ?
You don't see what is happening ?

Russians will make EU collapse and dissolve so that they can invade it like in the good old days...

Also I'm seriously considering Russia or USA are behind Daesh

>>730025886
can't see many muslims there

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>>730022584
>conspiracy bullshit
Not bullshit. All political parties are by their nature conspiracies. Don't let them bully you with all their "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" nonsense. All politicians lie. And they lie in consort.

maybe someone should teach america how war is supposed to work. You invade a country and take control, but they just invade and then run away leaving chaos to ensue..

>>730025767
>he can't into irony

Well, I didn't expect much from /b/ tbh.

>but populism and hatred will lead to endless war

Who hates Muslims? I don't. That's not to say we don't have an identity and culture of our own, and wish to preserve it. That's not hatred, that's sanity.

You don't understand what nationalism is and you're scared of it. I understand that fear. But it's irrational at this point.

>>730026092
as stupid as it sounds, it kinda makes sense

>>730026026
Pretty easy: immigration policy should encourage only immigrants who share/accept the values of the host country, and assimilation should be enforced: language, dress, etc.

>>730026267
We have too many Americans who want America to lose.

>>730025886
Yeah i get you point, but actually the inscriptions were there initially to support attacks victim, yeah this a shit idea i know, but as far as what i'e seen, the statue is clean back since summer

>>730026317
Ok, then where do all the Muslims go? They don't just vanish into thin air when you tell them you can't come here.

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I think Marine Le Pen may be France's only hope at this stage, many years ago we saw what an extreme far right movement did to europe, i fear if she isn't elected then we will see what an extreme left wing movement will do to europe.

>>730026317
Gleichschaltung macht frei.

>>730026388
they don't invade to take the wealth of the country they invaded, they do it to steal the wealth of america for them and their friends. I don't think it's about winning or losing, it's just about $$$$$$

>>730025872
If they get a few more recruits, I don't mind. The west can wipe them off the face of the earth.

If you're that mentally fragile that a people standing for their identity and culture hurts you bad enough to want to kill them, you really have no place in western civilization tbh.

>>730026133
>he thinks people paint graffiti in broad daylight

Go to Paris, you'll see plenty.

>>730022584
there has been attacks since several years, and it wasn't election time. This is bullshit.

>>730026465
Do not care. No country is obligated to take in immigrants it doesn't want.
>>730026622
Yes, Nazis were all about encouraging the assimilation of foreign peoples into the German mainstream. Great point.

>>730024978
Actually Marine Le Pen is always telling to French Muslims that they're as French as White Catholic French people.
I won't vote for her on the first round, but if Melenchon isn't in the second round, my vote goes for her

>>730022584
Yes. I suspect ISIS wants ger to win, to hasten the civilizational war they think will bring the end of days and final victory of Islam. They have pretty specific prophecies regarding battles in Syria and against "the Franks."

>>730026679
Maybe, but no country in the West has the confidence to simply say "fuck these savages, they need to be civilized." And cultural relativism guts any attempt to do so.

>>730025109
then you must be all for Isis, most of their victims are muslim.

>>730026851
Teach ISIS a lesson: elect a feckless multiculturalist with a soft noodle spine.

>>730026813
yeah but they are more frequent and get even more press coverage due to political campaign

>>730026465
Easy you goof ass back home and fight for their land and country like the USA had to do. No one helps the greatest country in the world.

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Real question is :
Will Trump enter in total war with sandniggers and nuke them ?

>>730026265
is your pic supposed to be ironic ? there wasn't just one death camp, there's no reason for the number to be unique in the world

>>730024532
what is wrong with trash being in the dumpster?

>>730025808
Because our governments are responsible for inciting and supplying the rebellion in Syria that has led to the refugee crisis. Syria is our work.

>>730026455
It's not about a fountain m8. It's the normalization of terrorism, the normalization of 3rd world behavior. Paris is no longer French.

>>730023895
This is pretty much it, they are playing the jewcard.

>>730026728
>he thinks people paint graffiti in broad daylight

The writings were to support attack victims (pretty stupid). I've been to Paris, many muslims as well as many other nations.

>>730027249
ok, i agree on this point, but what do you propose ?

>>730023257
You are literally retarded. ISIS wants the right wing populists to win, so that they can push the narrative that Europeans hate Islam. This will draw moderate Muslims towards the extreme jihadist ideology.

Real issue is : why not one media asks why Fillon gave so much money to his wife under a false pretext ?
Fact : there were rumors that fillon had some affairs with men for years.
Fact : the money he gave his wife was half their total fortune.
What happen : his wife found out about the affairs with young men, she wanted to divorce, so to not ruin his carrier, he offer her the money she would have own with a divorce, she can live the big life in their manor, but she has to play the good and silent housewife.

>>730027467
dude... read again what I wrote. It's fucking sarcasm.

>>730026092
Kinda makes sense I wonder why Putin Banned Jehovas witnesses and confiscated all their properties, also banned the bibles and magazines they have, he started calling them extremists.
Probably they used to woke him up as a kid knocking at his door or something.

>>730027516
>there were rumors that fillon had some affairs with men for years.
This is a stupid thing to be concerned about.

>>730027248
You faggots always say that. EVERY problem in the world is "our" fault. But you never mean you. You mean everyone else but you.

Foreign peoples are reduced to the status of animals, puppets, and bit players in the historical theater of your imagination; marionettes dancing at the end of western strings while you self righteously "tut tut" about it.

Dumb faggots swore that Saddam Hussein was installed into power by the US; not because it was true (it's laughably false) but because then the dumb faggots in question could cry about it and pretend to be superior.

Protip: most of the third world is savage and corrupt because the people who live there are savage and corrupt. Go there sometime.

>>730027283
I know. Another attack. More victims. More vigils. More "support".

Enough.

>>730027344
That we give sovereignty a chance and not jump into more regime change wars, for a change. That's why I support La Pen, aside from her stance on labor rights.

>>730027516
>facts
>rumors
pick one faggot

Also, macron is the gay one according to the rumors
and Fact ; he's fucking his ex teacher, who is ten years older than him at least

>>730023333
ISIS wants conflict. Wasted quads

>>730027248
nope

>>730027601
K

>>730022584
>I'm not really into all the conspiracy bullshit or anything

apparently you are

>>730027807
Do you mean that Western governments aren't supplying the so-called "moderate" opposition?

>>730027700
>Protip: most of the third world is savage and corrupt because the people who live there are savage and corrupt.

Unironically made me think.

>>730027865
Not really. Usually I laugh my ass off when I hear such bullshit.

>>730027248
Obama really fucked up on that one, he didnt count on you cannot Mossad gas them the Assad.
meanwhile im not sure what the hell is Trump doing besides losing the Armada he sent to south korea, now south korea is pissed.

>>730027700
I think he worked with the cia
also ghadaffi, Osama Bin Laden, the guy that is president of Venezuela right now starving his people.

>>730028013
>now south korea is pissed.
Really? Because the South Korean newspapers are celebrating his tough stance.

>>730023895
i dont disagree, but i dont think its a bad thing either.

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>>730023895
This.

ISIS wants to create a "caliphate" - a whole country. You can't take over the world with just 1,000 people. If they can attract hundreds of people by killing 1 cop like they did in France, then for ISIS it's worthwhile.

They want Le Pen elected. They want muslims to be banned so they will all move into ISIS territory and make them bigger and stronger. France is about to play into ISIS hands. Sad really.

>>730022584
That IS very convenient.

>>730028375
>standing up to terrorists means they win

Lol

>>730028322
FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY

>>730022584
Her campaign was a disaster, she was supposed to have 27% at the first turn. Now she's around 22%

>>730028533
You can stand up to them without being played by them.

>>730028013
>Obama really fucked up on that one, he didnt count on you cannot Mossad gas them the Assad.
I'm just glad that Assad is winning the war and will win the war.

>>730022584
You're reverting cause and effect. Just like in every other age this has happened, populist parties tend to be successful when events happen that drive the population to hate someone branded as different. See immigration in the US 100ish years ago, nazism and jews, South africa, it's the same old story.

>>730022584
You're reverting cause and effect. Just like in every other age this has happened, populist parties tend to be successful when events happen that drive the population to hate someone branded as different. See immigration in the US 100ish years ago, nazism and jews, South africa, it's the same old story.

>>730027776
And so what ? You fap while thinking about lolis riding your neckbeard cock

>>730022584
Who cares.

So long as massive third world, non-white immigration into white countries stops, I'm satisfied.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE[Open]

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>>730027187
Not to mention that the weak and feeble went straight to the gas chambers. No need to tattoo those folks.

>>730025707
I know dude! It's like you can either treat them like utter shit, or bend over backwards to appease them no matter it takes. There's no middle ground possible. You can't like demand that they obey your laws, and at least be mindful and respectful of your social protocols, while at the same time treating them like humans. It's either/or. You have to be an extremist one way or another.

And anyway we're the good guys, and if TV and movies have taught me anything, it's that the good guys always win, and are virtually bullet proof. So once WW3 starts, we'll come through it completely unscathed, while the bad guys will be decimated and wiped out entirely. What could possibly go wrong?

>>730023895
How is it going to be a win for isis if we don't let more Muslim's in you moron.

These attacks occur on our soils BECAUSE WE LET THEM INTO OUR COUNTRIES.

Easy solution.

Kill isis

Tell muslims to fuck off or become westernized

Stoo comparing isis and modern Islamic terrorists to crusaders from hundreds of years ago

Stop being fags

Stop saying you card for gays and women but also supporting mass migration of people who hate gays and abuse women


Being nice does not work. Britain and Europe tried that with Hitler until Hitler was bombing London.

FFS. Do you cucks want to wait until the last minute before you wake up.

>Your house is smoking right now and youre still sleeping because its cozy and warm....and youll call your neighbors idiots when they tell you you should have left the house and called 911

>>730028658
Right wingers don't understand that. These are the ignorant kids that can be made to cock fight just by calling one chicken.

>>730029923
Kek Hitler was pretty fucking nice to to Britain pal. Look up the battle of Dunkirk. Hitler could have easily taken England afterward but was cocky and thought he could still work out a treaty between the two.

>>730022584
everyone says this in france, anon ;)

>>730029923
>Being nice does not work.
> Britain and Europe tried that with Hitler until Hitler was bombing London.
Do you even history?

>>730028658
>>730030099
Or we could just not let Muslim's into out countries like we have the past several hundred years and then they would continue to remain irrelevant and impotent.

>>730029111

Trips and reason

FFS cucks stop with the "ew we ruined muslims its our fault"

Do you know when Muslims liked America? When gays werent having parades. And women were ladies

Oddly enough in history Muslims liked America until liberals ruined marriage and let women have slut walks

Fuck man even Hitler liked Muslims. We trained Osama against communist Russia.

The cuck left is what made Islam go extreme

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>>730028304
Not really they got pissed because the armada was said to go somehere else, they even called him a liar.
And you know chinks get all honor and shit that if you troll them in that way they get some autistic rage.

>>730030348

Have you ?

Before churchhill Britain let Hitler do whatever

>Durr Hitler didnt bomb Londed

>Except for the blitz. But thats obviously made up

Damn are you trolls even trying.

>>730022584

VIOLENCE DURING ELECTION TIME IS NOTHING NEW FOR HUMANITY

>>730024454
thank you for your insight mohammad ibn faruh

>>730022584
Coincidence does not equal causation.

>>730030914
It's correlation and causation.

>>730030534
>Before churchhill Britain let Hitler do whatever
Heaven forbid that Germany retake lands that were unjustly taken from then at the end of WWI, when they were forced to pay the full cost for all sides of a war they did not start.

>>730030534
First: no one claimed Hitler didn't bomb London, you moron.

Second: yes Churchill took a more aggressive stance but Britain simply didn't have th means to keep Hitler from doing what he wanted

>>730031096
What he said makes sense in this context.

Do you even know what those two words mean or do you just parrot what you've heard other people say?

>>730022584
>>consider the following
maybe radical muslims wants to see her elected president, because she will impose strict oppression on the muslim faith which will make the jihadi-farts right when they say all infidels hate muslims and thus make them recruit more.

jihadis want holy war, she wants holy war -so the math.

>>730031342
I can tell you did poorly in English. You don't say "coincidence does not mean causation" because a coincidence is just that, a fucking coincidence.

>>730031198
Hitler was smart even served in war, was nothing and became something.
Trump took just a small loan of a million dollars from his dad while he lived in luxury, confuses Iraq with Afghanistan, dodged draft 5 times because of a foot thing.

>>730025707
Obama still bombed them a bunch and threw them into a prison island where they could be tortured covertly. Just because you have a leftist face doesn't mean your actions are progressive. That said, just because Trump ran as a Republican doesn't mean he cares what they think. He's happy letting Bannon tell him how to ruin the country.

Bottom line is that hypocrites exist in spades across all parties, and there isn't a good long-term solution to muslim extremists that won't just breed more extremists and won't also end in genocide.

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>>730025767
>Killing every last one of them is not a viable option.

Says you. We haven't even tried to kill them on a large scale yet. I say it's worth a try.

>>730031753
Can we get an answer from someone whose not an edgy retard?

>>730022584

There has always been extreme-right politicians. They are only recently gaining increased support because of the actions of Muslims.

>>730022584
it's almost like there's a problem that needs a hard solution...

>>730031822
what do you mean "always"? every political party in history pre-1950's would be considered nazis by today's standard, the radical left is a new phenomenon.

>>730031483
Right, he was pointing that out to op. And I did fine in English, you're just a moron.

>>730031804
>whose
You're the retard here.

>>730031804
You ignore the fact that they have stated multiple times that that is exactly what they want to do to us.

The West is not at war with Islam, but they are surely at war with us. Fight back or die. They throw faggots like you off of buildings.

>>730031753
Yeah because that's the only place muslims exist. Also genocide historically goes over well!

Moron.

>>730031822
How is protecting your country far right?

The policies she's proposing were common until relatively recently.

>>730025767

Killing them, no. Banning Islamic practise, yes. They'll have to seek asylum from persecution back to their countries of origin. That'd be a turn up.

>>730032101
>You ignore the fact that they have stated multiple times that that is exactly what they want to do to us.
Doesn't mean that using nukes to genocide a population is a realistic solution. Do you set your yard on fire because mosquitoes are determined to bite you?

>>730032114
Ok we're proposing exiling them from our countries back to the middle east. If the south east Asians want help expelling them too, we will be more than accommodating.

>>730031930

Well yeah, precisely.

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>>730023895
This guy is making a lot more sense now.

>>730031436

Someone just raped your daughter. Do you

A:. Let them in your home because maybe they have hurt childhood

B: Kill them

C:. Let the law deal with them

If you chose A. You are fucking dumb. B you are extreme but understandable. And C is the most reasonable. But has problems

Fuck your dumb ass stupid "suck islam dick they will love us". No you fucking idiot ISIS and the like HATE THE WEST. They arent poor brown people who want to love Europe and want help. Sucking ISIS dick will only make them attack us more. They love liberals who open borders. Le Pen isnt helping ISIS. And you have to have some mental problems if you think being nice to truly evil people makes them nice.

>You're talking about people who do Cartel level executions and have little kids shoot people. Who burn people. Drown people. Throw people Infront of tanks. Use rocks..... You're saying THOSE people are the poor people who need your love

No. Fuck off. Prove me wrong without using some shitty buzzword

>>730032192

Hey man i agree, that's just the label (((they))) have given her.

>>730032450
it's really frustrating knowing these people have such a pathetic understanding of the world that they truly believe whites are evil and everyone else is poor and oppressed

like where do you even begin to approach retards like that

>>730032452
Ah gotcha. No worries we're on the same page then.

>>730032114
Victors write histories. Look at the Crusades. You think this is the first time Islam tried to conquer the world?

Like any extremist group, you need to rapidly kill them off in large numbers. Make it so horrible that others will avoid being our enemy. Japan was so scarred by the US nuclear attack they swore off War itself.

We need to do the same in the middle east. Burn it to ash. Muslims around the world will cower in shock and awe and quickly distance themselves from extremism, so as not to share the same fate.

Islam is a cancer on humanity. Cut. It. Out.

>>730032843
But Trump went full faggot because they said Assad Gassed some people, which he says it is a false flag.
You cannot Mossad The Assad

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Oh right. It was all staged to embolden Le Pen. I suppose the London attacks were a set up too? And the Bataclan theatre attacks? And the Brussels attacks? And the Charlie Hebdo attacks? And Cologne? And Sweden? And 9/11? All staged to make Le Pen win the election right?

>>730022584
That´s not a conspiracy, ISIS knows that if Le Pen wins France and Europe will be weaker, and they can still make terrorist attacks since she will focus on islamist who come from abort but not on the french islamist who are responsible for many attacks.

I remember listening to a podcast that Sam Harris did.

He was explaining his thoughts and revelations on a magazine or article I can't remember which.

It was created under some authority in the ISIS government if you can call it that.

Most people would assume it to be some poorly written drivel. But to Sam's surprise it was actually well written documented and presented.

Some conclusions can be drawn from this, people assume that most ISIS members are sand people with no intelligence and little to no understanding of the modern world.

This is most evidently not the case. Look at most foreign terrorist attacks (meaning attacks done by those outside their country of origin).

College educated and generally from homes that would be considered middle class or above.

These people if removed from their beliefs would seem almost normal and seemingly average. But they do believe, and if you were to imagine yourself as someone who read the Quran and took every passage as literal and historical truths then your outlook behavior will definitely change.

I used this long preface to make this statement as to why I think what I think on the subject of this discussion.

To what end do people of this ideology want? The ultimate sacrifice, to serve their god as they believe to be the most pious way.

I don't believe there is some grand network and if there is it wouldn't be used for minor attacks like this. I think someone who is converted to the faith, whether its local or in a near by country is vetted and sent fourth to meet their maker.

Why? because ISIS wants to have a presence be felt around the world and the people they are using to do it are expendable or rather only good for that one thing.

Or perhaps the agent or who ever is converting may not even be directly connected to ISIS at all and these acts are only being claimed by ISIS because of said desired effect.

>>730033565
>That´s not a conspiracy, ISIS knows that if Le Pen wins France and Europe will be weaker
That actually makes sense.

Plus new anti-islam laws will be pure gold for ISIS propaganda.

>>730033623
decent post but holy fuck format it better, you look like a pretentious faggot when you need a new line for every sentence.

>>730023019
exactly, fucking moron Op

>>730033314
Finally! Somone who gets it.

>>730025707
>weak
what did trump succsefully done so less muslims come to america

>>730033858
so what do YOU think the appropriate response to Muslim terrorist attacks are? if we make laws to crackdown on them they win, and if we let them kill us they win. what is your solution?

>>730027789
This. It's sad how many right wing islam haters don't even know their enemy's PUBLISHED PLAN.

This is why they are allowed to have guns by the 1%, but the leftists aren't, because no amount of weaponry matters in the hands of a moron.

>>730033970
tried a ban and was blocked every time. plus, he's barely been in 100 days.

>>730022584
>during the campaign
This shit's been going on for years now, you dipshit.

>>730034042
>by the 1%

whoa lad, take it easy on the commie kool-aid. marx believed in guns rights too btw

>>730030351
> irrelevant and impotent
> owns all the oil, makes the west their bitch, totally ass kissed by both parties.
> second largest owner of western debt
> requires 7 constant wars to keep in check, still leaking out

You people live in a fantasy world.

>>730033981
You could start by not overthrowing dictators who keep them in line, like Saddam, Gaddafi, and Assad. This will upset Israel ad regional chaos suits their purposes but it's time they were brought to heel as well.

>>730034374
i agree, that's exactly what trump preached during his campaign. sadly he didn't deliver.

the solution to cultural conflicts will always be segregation, but nobody wants to admit it.

>>730034069
that´s why you should stop to vote for stupid people if you want a muslim ban okay why not vote for someone who is capable to achieve something in politics and not for morons with overly active social-media accounts

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>>730022584
yeah it's all conspiracy.....now repeat after me
>Islam is the religion of peace
>Islam is the religion of peace
>Islam is the religion of peace

>>730033981
Counter intelligence and counter terrorism, which is already in effect. It's not 100% foolproof because, guess what, in a war both sides suffer casualties ; but before that last attack in Paris, another better planned and very probably more deadly one was prevented (peoople arrested and explosives seized in Marseille). It works and actually saves lives - more than alt right's dumbasses hate speeches.

Plus ISI is losing its war in Irak, so I'd say, let's keep going while we're winning.

>>730022584
She is not right wing, she is fucking socialist. The only right wing candidate is Fillon

>>730034331
last time muslims were relevant was the Ottoman Empire, and the siege of Vienna. the only threat they pose to anyone is israel, who are getting america to keep them in check.

if our politicians weren't weak wristed spineless globalists none of what you're describing would be happening.

Life would be a lot easier if we all just got together and agreed to nuke the middle east. That should clean up at least a small majority of the problem. That way ISIS would have to start from scratch.

>>730022584
Good point.
From some years ago it seemed that the long term game plan seemed to be that they would escalate problems via illegal immigrants, rape, murder, terrorism, suppression and generating a feeling of helplessness.

At breaking point, they will offer to 'save' the public from the very same horrors they have brought upon them - on the condition of a totalitarian single government.

The people will accept it, even demand it. Anything just to be rid of the shitskins and the constant mass murders and rapes.

So yes, it fits.

>>730034649
Islam is not a religion of peace it is a far to large group without control through the civilizied society

>>730034331
>owns all the oil
Not true but you're missing the point. Technologically and militarily speaking the middle east has been irrelevant for at least 500 years. They should just consider themselves fortunate white haven't genocided them and straight up taken their oil by force. You and I both know we have had the means to do this for several hundred years.

>>730031190
This is fair. WW2 was guaranteed by the treaty.

But it was exploited by the 1%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

TLDW:
"JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick"

Hitler was a front man for American corporations, they tried to grow a Hitler here too, but their choice backstabbed them, the camps were about slave labor. Functions now provided by felons and work programs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

>>730034630
because trump was very obviously the only politician who even tried to address the problem. better to gamble on trump than accept defeat.

>>730034694
so long as there are muslim populations in countries, there will always be the unique threat of a Jihad attack in the name of Allah. Wow, we prevented one attack! but people still died in another. if that's your version of a victory you should probably give yourself a smack. one person dead from these people is too many.

this is the price of living with an Islamic population

>>730028533
No, doing it in the way right wing dipshits want means that nobody is likely to win long term. Simply wiping ISIS out is not a real option, or it would have already been done or at least well on it's way. And even if you do hit them hard enough, kill the people holding it altogether, then what? It crumbles and something else arises to fill the void it left. History has shown us that that filler is always worse then what it's replacing. Taking out Saddam Hussein and his regime, and whittling away at Al Queda and the Taliban are what made ISIS possible.

You're not going to beat them through brute, merciless force alone, without paying a heavy price yourself, and you're not going to make matters any better without first making them much worse. If we could magically just go kill every last one of them in their sleep I would be for it. They do need to be dealt with, and very harshly, because they are a dire threat to everything I know, and love. At the same time I'm not willing to burn the entire fucking world down (including my own country) to do it. They need to be contained, and slowly dismantled and destroyed through attrition. They are blood-hungry, and need to be starved of that, not given their fill.

Unfortunately, people like you will "win" out in the long run. You will get your way, you will get escalated tensions in the Middle East, and eventually you'll get the all out war you want so bad. WW3, the complete collapse of civilization, and very likely total extinction of humanity are inevitable. They just won't come quickly enough, and at some point you faggots will be whining about how unfair it is, and how it's everyone's fault but your own. We'll probably even survive long enough for you fucks to turn your aggression inwards towards the rest of us.

>>730023895
Thats like a fucked up tactic girls do. Try to get you all pisses till you say some shit then they get to say "oh ur abusing me blah blah". Fucking isis

I wonder if Roman citizens had similar discussions about Christians in their domain.

>>730032229
I actually agree with this.

Yet I'm a "libtard."

See, the problem is that this particular religion is a set of toxic memes even worse than the others.

The response is to quarantine the afflicted. Basically epidemiology measures could solve this problem locally.

Simply parse Islam as a transmissible mental illness. Which let's be real, it is.

>>730035140
that post escalated very quickly lol. but you're pretty delusional, the answer to someone trying to impose their will on you is to never bend. unless you're weak, of course. this isn't just some tough guy talk, this is the reality of human nature - and nature in general.

the strong will always try to impose their will on the weak, you either fight or you break.

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>>730022584

its shocking when shit that keeps happening keeps happening...


youre right.

>>730035048
Well here is my question then. If the only person who wants the problem with the muslims to solve like you do is simply not intelligent enough, maybe your solution is just wrong?

>>730033565
This. It's chess. It's not even nuclear. ISIS is authoritarian, they want authoritarians for enemies because a finale battle to the death IS THEIR ENTIRE PLAN.

It doesn't matter if they'll lose, they THINK they'll win and causing it is their objective accordingly.

A lot of these conspiracy nuts thinking that these terror attacks are all planned and thought out to get Muslims to retaliate are missing the bigger picture, There's far more non-Muslims in Europe than there are Muslims. And all it would take is a civil war to break out to clear up the continent of the problem. Not the most effective strategy. If it was calculated, they'd wait dormant until the population reached at least 60%.

>>730035350

Is /b/ full of black pilled Zeta Males?

https://heatst.com/tech/inside-the-black-pill-the-webs-worst-ideology/

>>730022584
In march 2012, the RAID kills a terrorist. Few weeks later, Marine Le Pen looses at 1st turn. The president Sarkozy (right wing) looses vs Hollande (left ring).
Check your facts.

>>730035667
>a finale battle to the death IS THEIR ENTIRE PLAN.
Very true, their ultimate belief is that events will come to a head in a cataclysmic battle between Islam and Christianity that brings about the Biblical endtimes.

>>730022584
convenience or divine intervention?

>>730033623
This. It's simply. Memetic pathogens are a thing. And until we start acting like it pandemics will sweep the earth repeatedly.

Citation: Islam.

>>730032229
Actually not a bad idea...

Gets them all in one place for the coup de grace.

>>730035647
first of all i realize english isn't your first language, but don't call others dumb when you're speaking like an 8 year old.

secondly, i really don't know what you're trying to say. are you trying to make an appeal to authority? the objective solution will remain true no matter people's interpretation of events.

and while obviously there is no one objective solution, there are ones that clearly work better than others. it doesn't take away their effectiveness if people don't realize it.

>>730022584
Same with trump
You're not crazy. It's real

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>>730022584
>hurr durr le evil alt-right"
Fuck off, faggot. The 4th Reich's coming, get ready to get gassed, nigger!

>>730031739
Not true. We just have to be honest and set limits.

Islam is a transmissible incurable mental illness. Treat it as such. Quarantines, testing, education. As in how you fight any infectious disease.

>>730035958
Notice that after trump gets elected, no more terror attacks in USA

>>730035048
As far as I remember, we're still quite far from the twin tower's record, so that we can hardly say that the American strategy prevented every single civilian death.

Plus the US reaction after that destabilized the whole Middle East and made things worse for everybody. ISIS would never have existed if George "Nutjob" Bush hadn't mistaken Irak for Afghanistan or something.

That's an asymetric war. It requires intelligence and time. You need the spies, you need the Kurds, you need lots of things. The classical "us versus them total war" simply does not work in that case : it's not only inefficient, it's dangerous.

>>730036077
not sure if troll or complete faggot

>>730031753
As a person who plays RTs video games, this "solution" is undeniably appealing XD

But no, again, Islam is a disease. Quarantine, testing, education.

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>>730035667
ISIS Is a cia/mossad/saudi proxy you ignorant sluts.

https://www.sott.net/article/326282-What-the-media-misses-in-the-Syrian-bloodbath-a-thank-you-to-Hillary-from-Israel

https://leaksource.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-iraq-and-isis-the-connection/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-is-a-us-israeli-creation-top-ten-indications/5518627

>>730034989
I'm shocked to hear that the ultra-rich manipulate people and events to suits their desires. Truly.

>>730036152
before terror attacks were happening daily? what are you, a retard?

>>730024617
Oh fuck of you piece of shit. Muslims have been nothing but a blight on Europe since the very beginning. They have been an economic and cultural catastrophe all around.

They are not "easy prey for manipulators" but doing EXACTLY what their goddamn ideology demands of them. These problems exist in every single last location where muslims meet ANY other group. They have without fail overthrown any society that has not rejected them and tried to integrate them. They subvert, they divide, they conquer.

All you concern trolls are doing is telling people to "take the high ground" and "not make ISIS win", which they do goddamn either way. Either you appear weak, the countries keep falling apart and muslim numbers and aggression surge or you respond to their hostility and almost open war and it comes to a conflict. You have limited choices from the get go, which is why you never actually say what you want people to do much less how you would solve these issues.

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>>730032305
In fairness if setting the yard on fire would end mosquitoes for a given person, they'd do it.

>>730036433
No. I'm not you, retard.

>>730025361
PRO TIP, THEY DO NOT. There's over 7 billion people on the planet, there are 1.5 billion muslims. These muslims are mostly clustered in ISLAMIC COUNTRIES such their NUMBERS DO NOT MATTER. They lack the infrastructures, armies and mobility to wage any kind of open war.

Any kind of open war, would see the Middle East summarily trashed in short order. The only problem are the growing fifth columns in Europe, the very same people you are defending and advocating appeasement for. Which would solve nothing but merely put off an inevitable conflict worsening Europes chances with each passing month and would eventually end up the same as Kosovo or Lebanon regardless.

You are a lying piece of human waste. Neck yourself.

>>730036653
And you don't see the liklihood for that fire to spread to the house?

>>730033981
Don't make Islamic infection a crime, but definitely make it an illness. (Trouble there is so is so much else.) Right wingers have their own memetic pathogens. Like racism, and Christianity.

>>730026465
THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRIES YOU CLOWn. The place where they belong. These muslims didn't spring into existance out of thin air. Any muslims still there can stay right there and any muslims in Europe can and should in short order be send back.

They are a huge cost factor, massively contribute to crime, destabilize entire countries, spread an toxic and violent ideology, all while even in third generation such as the Turks in Germanistan barely speaking the native language and seeing themselves as full fledged Turks often having dual citizenship.

>>730036881
so what is the solution?

>>730036854
My point was it doesn't work that way. I'm just saying if it did, it would be a viable option. Merely an unethical short sighted one.

>>730035475
>the answer to someone trying to impose their will on you is to never bend

I'm a machinist. I work with a lot of steel. Steel that is not bending under stress, is steel that is breaking under stress. Bent steel can be bent back; shattered steel is not so easily repaired.

>>730035909
>objective solution
but why would you choose a subjectiv solution that would be theoretically be the best if it´s not possible to achieve it.

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>>730036333


/b/etas are bluepilled on isis

>>730032305
Actually, yeah. If that's what it takes...

>>730036854
>>730036854
Have you never heard of a "controlled burn" before?

As long as Islam has existed, there have been Jihads against "Western" ideology. As long as Islam exists, there will always be more Jihads.

Islam really is a disease, as >>730036105 has said. It must be eradicated. I don't care how.

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>>730022584
night of the long knives anyone?

>>730036881
Fuck off. We don't need them and we owe them nothing.

>>730037134
Basically follow this model:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encephalitis#Epidemiology

The left needs to face that Islam is a threat, And the right need to face that it isn't a character flaw that can be solved with bombs and a police state.

>>730028749
In the end Assad will end up in a ditch somewhere just like Khadaffi when the russians dont need him or can afford him anymore.
The problem is that Putin created such a mess in Syria that it will take decades for to recover even when the junta is gone.

>>730037134
Kill'em all. Let God sort them out.

>>730037480
You're a moron. People have value. Even Hitler worked the Jews instead of just killing them. You're dumber than a nazi, and that's really saying something.

>>730037620
You first.

>>730037507
If wenuked the majority of Muslims in their hive of the middle east, you're telling me that wouldn't be a major win?

>>730037134
Deportation, a huge wall and possibly mining the Middle Sea. They can happily inbreed in their own countries, bomb one another all day and throw gays of roofs. You know, the same thing they have done for about 300 years after Europe got fed up with the slave raids and kicked the shit out of them.

The very same thing they would still be doing if nobody had found oil there, the left didn't need a new voting block and large corporations thought they could crash the job market and wages.

Do you have any kind of reason why they should stay in Europe. Not something that concerns THEM as in "these poor people" but any good reasons for Europeans to WANT them around?

>>730037827
Pyrrhic victory at best.

>>730037827
What? Rephrase your question so I can read it.

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>>730037728
Trust me, if my old ass could re-enlist in the Army, and take my Tank over there to kill them, I would in a heartbeat.

>>730037679
They can have value in their own countries. Also, their value from an economic and cultural point does exist, however it is negative to Europeans. You are not making any kind of rebuttal, not explaining why Europeans would want them around, how they are Europes problems nor are you naming any possible solutions.

>>730037679
>You're dumber than a nazi, and that's really saying something
Confirmed for retard or shill.

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>>730038107

How about some sort of biological approach ?

>>730038140
Islam as a vector can be written down. Killing the hosts will do nothing. If that kind of response could work it would have happened already.

>>730037679
You're an idiot

>>730037507
and then everything resolves itself magically? WHAT IS THE SOLUTION?

>>730038308

Bullshit we aren't even fighting ( beyond a few special forces and planes )

>>730038148
You're assuming I'm trying to rebut you just because I don't want them murdered. This sis you being partisan and making assumptions.

I'm saying you're half right. Part of disease prevention is quarantine of the infected.

I'm just saying we don't need to murder or torture them to do it.

They are victims. Would want to make zika illegal too? Murder them for daring to be infected?

One can oppose islam without being a moron serial killer wanna or a stupid fucking racist.

I think nuking Kaaba would be a great start, destroy the very essence of Islam.

>>730038132
If we eliminated every Muslim hive in the world, how would that not help solve the problem? Bad guy enters your house. You kill him. Problem solved. We did it with WWII. For now, Muslims in the middle east aren't intelligent enough to engineer a nuke. We are. I say we nip this problem in the bud and glass these people into oblivion so we can start fresh and recolonize the middle east as a first world utopia.

>>730037967
Its easy to say you would sit comfortably behind a wall and mines while people in other nations starve and get gassed when they fight back.

>>730038682
Kill the jews first.
There's only 13 million, short work.

Once those are gone, the puppets lose their strings and are useless.
Then you start cleaning away the shitskins.

>>730038682
>>wants to nuke middle east
>>and then recolonize immediately
Do you even know what nuclear bomb does?

>>730038739
stop trying to make it our responsibility to secure your country.

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>>730038739

Seems to work pretty good for some people

>>730038592
I think I see the root issue with you now. You are quick to condemn the religion, which is good, but you insist we waste our time and resources trying to "rehabilitate" this so called sickness with which they are plagued.

So what do your folks think about you condemning their sickness and becoming an infidel? Or have they disowned you?

>>730038604
This is how you create Islam Jesus.
They will claim the profit survived,
HE IS RISEN PRAISE GOD.
All the moderate Muslims spread throughout the world commit to jihad.

>>730038739
Are you talking about israel.
Yeah, they've been gassing, burning, blowing up, laying mines and cluster bombs since 1930 when the kikes started invading palestine.

>>730022584
Of course they are happening for that sole reason OP, do you not see how the world is slowly getting into sync with shit for a world war 3?

Can't wait to die in my late 20's thanks to a group of some cunts I wouldn't like if I knew them. Isn't it beautiful how such a small number of people are the capable cause of all our deaths and suffering?

>>730038308
I agree with
>>730038498
We've been trying the same, failed, "Hearts and Minds" campaign we used in Vietnam. We've been trying to convince them that we really aren't such bad guys (we aren't) but their ideology simply will not accept that. They are the ultimate bigots. If you are not one of them, you deserve to die.

The only way to put an end to that ideology is to kill anyone who embraces it.

>>730039039

There are no moderate Muslims death cults tend not to have any

>>730038498
Jesus you're stupid. You don't cure cancer with a bombing run. This is why they are doing so well. You morons are predictable robots.

>>730026526
Sure, the only hope against Left Wing is the Extreme Right Wing...

>>730038592
I said relocate them to their native countries and stop more from coming in. I at no point said I want them murdered. If they resort to violence and thus force violence in response that is NOT anyone else's fault but only theirs. It's like someone kicking your door in, you telling them to leave, they refusing. When you go for the phone to call the cops they assault you and you fight back.

All you are doing here, is concern trolling. Making horrible comparisons, never properly addressing what people are saying much less providing any kind of alternative solutions yourself.

>>730038739
It's also easy to do! I for example do it every single last day. As do billions of other people. Unless someone is an illogical moron running entirely on emotion and constantly bombarded with propaganda it's pretty much the norm.

>>730038921
>Do you even know what nuclear bomb does?

Depends on which one you use, now don't it?

Neutron Bomb for the win...

>>730039161

They don't embrace it "Islam" is just Arabic for submit they give up their humanity and become slaves to a sick ideology we just need to make them change where they take orders from

>>730039278
So you want to nuke or poison them. Because that is how we usually treat cancer. Dunno man, seems pretty extreme when we could simply deport them, not give them any welfare (hell most of them would have to self deport because of this) and then build some proper walls.

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>>730038996
No, moron, The PEOPLE are just hosts for the ILLNESS.

Stop thinking of Islam as a character flaw.

Get your dick out of your hand and turn off the COD marathon. This isn't about making you feel like you're the hero of blackhawk down. This is about curing an infection.

Surely you aren't stupid enough to think that simply killing sick people cures a disease WHICH CAN BE STORED IN TEXT.

>>730039278

curing cancer is tricky because you need to leave the host alive but no such issues apply here bombs will cure cancer quite nicely

>>730039383
>relocate them to their native countries and stop more from coming in. I at no point said I want them murdered. If they resort to violence and thus force violence in response that is NOT anyone else's fault but only theirs.
This is the most reasonable solution I've seen yet itt.

if it was up to each country to decide whether or not to attack isis and solve the problem or continue doing little to nothing in the hopes of some kind of peace, i'm fairly sure we all know which option is the correct one

>>730039161
You can't agree with me if you think killing the one weakest vector will cure the illness.

>>730039551
There is a point in any belief system where that becomes impossible to do. In fact, the more you try to change their minds, the more driven to remain in their belief system they become.

Call this the terminal phase of the infection if you like. The only way to stop a believer once they get to that point is to kill or imprison them. Killing them is really the kinder solution, and I say this as someone who has been in prison.

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>>730039684
ISIS plant detected.

Well done, I totally thought you were a real person.

You tipped your hand though, keep playing the ignorant cliche strawman as bait.

>>730039899
what were you in for?

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>>730039767

pfffffttttttt liberals think the Muslims attack us because we dont love them enough

>>730039899
You don't have to kill them. Get your dick out of your hand. THEY WANT war. Stop giving them what they want just because you're an insecure red neck that gets off on the TV version of it. You're making the problem worse.

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>>730040045
Cheesy Pizza

>>730040147
At least liberals think about why they are attacking us At ALL. Right wingers don't even care, they just come in their pants at an excuse to murder people. EVEN IF WAR IS ISIS'S ENTIRE GOAL!

Fucking idiots.

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>>730039972

You couldn't be more wrong

>>730040289

WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE CARE ? if someone attacks you fighting back is your only option otherwise they win

>>730040329
You're either an ISIS plant or a useful idiot.

> herpa derp mah gunz'n'boms kill'm'all hold'mah'beer

Could you be a bigger cliche? Go watch more TV. The adults are talking.

>>730040289

This.

The right wing wants war. ISIS wants war.

Normal people can't see the point.

Maybe ISIS and the right wing can kill themselves off and the rest of us can just netflix and chill.

It's a better world.

You know it makes sense.

>>730039633
True, being inbred and dumb as hell however is part of the people themselves. How it came about isn't important, it just matters that it is so. You cannot fix that without a generation long breeding programm to reverse some of the damage. While also seperating the children entirely from their parents.

Because ethics, morals etc are NOT universal but learned and thus the parents would inflict them upon their children propagating them. Which means even with your approach and huge sweeping changes it would take several generations to show any effect. I stick with a huge wall and minefields, thank you very much.

why can't we all just get along like in a SoL anime

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>>730040506
> your only option

Which is why the whole of medical science is just about killing infected people right?

Oh wait...

if it was up to each country to decide whether or not to attack isis and solve the problem or continue doing little to nothing in the hopes of some kind of peace, i'm fairly sure we all know which option is the correct one

>>730040154
>>730040154
>You don't have to kill them. Get your dick out of your hand. THEY WANT war. Stop giving them what they want just because you're an insecure red neck that gets off on the TV version of it. You're making the problem worse.

Got some news for you, Faggot. People who WANT war WILL get it. That is inevitable. If they want war with YOU, then your only choices will be fight, surrender, or die.

ISLAM DOES NOT TAKE PRISONERS. They want to KILL YOU. They don't care if you fight back or not. THEY think they can survive a Holy War that ends in Nuclear Fire. That is how the world ends and becomes an Islamic Caliphate. It's their version of Paradise.

So what's it gonna be, Faggotron, Fight or Die?

>>730039280
It could have been the left wing itself if it stuck to its principles. Instead they allowed a culture whos sole purpose is to eliminate every other culture, run wild. If liberals were actually liberal, they would see that an ideoloy contradicting all of their values is a problem that should be dealt with. Instead they appeased them. No wonder the far right is on the rise. When you back people into a corner and they see no sign of you fixing it, obviously they're going to defect to the alternative. It's called survival.

>>730026265
They barely tatooed their top soldiers with blood type so they could save them. Why would they waste time numbering untermensch?
>jews labeling themselves gives them more importance
>survivors
>jewish word for sacrifice

>>730024164
you know how many people should have been killed by islamics in france since 2015? 0 not one, because all those inbred goatfuckers should be in their own country where they belong

>>730040556
>While also seperating the children entirely from their parents.


Already happening. Look around. How many kids spend all day at school and then bury their heads in the Internet?

We're all gonna be way better off in just one generation.

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>>730040531

The thing about killing Muslims is how leather chairs get dry and sticky with too much air conditioning

>>730040535
"Someone wants to murder someone, is attacking that person with a knife and trying to stab them. The other person takes offense to that and defends themselves."
>OMFG THESE PEOPLE ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. Seriously, neck yourself. Do the world a favour and be a hero.

Also ISIS is not the problem. ISIS is merely fundamental Islam. The same stuff is happening everywhere Islam meets any other group, eventually escalating till it goes full Kosovo or Lebanon where soon no non muslims will be left. With groups such as the Wahabis in Saudi Arabia happily moving muslims into the West aswell as help spread and advocate for it by bribing politicans and news outlets.

>>730027174
Deus vult!

>>730039633
I misspoke although it should have been obvious I was talking about the people as having the illness.

Regardless, why should we waste our time and resources trying to rehabilitate these people? We don't need them and we owe them nothing.

>>730026388
you mean libtards and snowflakes

>>730040876
Yes, in Europe, the US, Canada etc. Which is how they fundamentally changed society in a few short decades. While the parents and grandparents were too busy working and earning money.

This approach however does not work with Muslims, it has utterly failed. The left did not manage to get their hooks into them but instead was subverted in turn. Because these people tend to be unemployed and have a lot of free time at their hand, they actively segregate themselves both in language and customs and teach their children to see the natives as "the other". Meanwhile the Muslims are happily moving into Left/Green parties and turning them into their cause, as the lefts method of dealing with opponents does not work with them.

>>730040719
Pick one:
< Ignorant mudslimes that can' figure out the business end of a stick.

< Sophisticated global combatants capable of being a threat to me in my house from the other side of the planet.

If the former: We can solve the problem with fair simply set of responses, the kind of thing that keeps Ebola out of the major American cities.

If the latter, the response has to be a shitload more sophisticated than Herpaderp mah boms.

Sorry son, the world isn't like COD or a Michael bay movie.

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>>730023019

ISIS want refugees to be sent back home where they can continue opressing/killing them.

>>730040755
That's a fair point, and I said the left needs to wake up to islam as a threat, but they never will so long as the right does nothing but slather their rifles in ky and rub against them as an excuse for foreign policy.

>>730023575

Good infidel, Allah smiles upon you.

>>730023895

THIS

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>>730040904
If drones solved the problem we wouldn't be in 7 wars.

You're too stupid to breed, so naturally I'm sure you'll make a whole litter of defectives.

>>730041523

Fuck off libtard a Kalashnikov costs 20.000 pounds here in england how much is one in France ? the difference is border control

>>730041620

Just one who died trying to defend you freedom

>>730041215
Too busy being the slaves you mean.

The same thing will work in islam if we stop bombing their countries long enough for them to build a fucking road and keep it more than a year.

Thing is, the people selling these bombs knows it doesn't work. It's their business model. "Bombs didn't work eh? Darn. Hey! Did you try more bombs? Great! Sign here."

>>730041287
The refugees need to be quarantined and tested. But even then a few vectors will sneak through. I consider that acceptable so long as our larger scale response is wise. IE not guided by naive leftists who want to hug infectious murderers, or brain dead rightists whose answer to everything is police states and bombing.

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>>730041928

Russian bombs saved Assad and are now helping him win the war

>>730041894
> "you freedom"

I think you meant some asshole 1%er's profit margin or reelection coffers.

Sorry, the TV didn't raise me, I don't worship uniforms.