prove to me why this literally isn't the best place

because it isn't on the bottom left

because it isn't in the bottom right

>>729930401
Because it isn't the bottom middle. The place where you fuck off and mind your own business while your neighbor smokes the crack the guy across the street's 12 year old son sold him. All tax free, of course.

>>729931349
Agreed FREEDOM!!!

>>729931509
that's bottom right, if you're bottom middle half of your income is going to be taken away to jamal and his six nigger children

>>729930401
Protip: Because it's not.

>>729931668
That sounds like top left to me.
Clearly the compass is off, then, and the best place to be is nowhere on it.

left-authoritarian

>>729930401
because it isnt in the upper right

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>>729931918
exactly; bottom left doesnt exist because in order to field the massive welfare state and redistribution of wealth, you need a large state.

>>729930401
You've still got streets

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>>729930401

Purple square does not exist

>>729932992
when was the last time McDonalds sent out death squads forcing people to buy their McChicken? I can't remember.

>>729932992
>purple doesn't exist
>green does

What?

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>>729932992
Green Quadrant does not exist because there is no force to push the equality of wealth to the masses without the strongarm of a large government.
green quadrant is less stable than even purple.

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>>729933235

You want to replace one tyrant with another tyrant and call yourself libertarian. Get your head checked.

>>729933494
tell me, what power does a corporation hold over you.

>>729930401
Because that dot means you're a pedo.

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>>729933365

You can't support an employer exploiting his employees' labor and say you're non authoritarian. It's logically inconstant.

Exploitation of labor is inherently authoritarian.

>>729932981
what does this even mean

>>729933911
>exploitation
no one is forcing you to work for a bad person, if you dont like it, work for yourself, or somewhere else.

Leftists memes about all employers being assholes is laughable at best.

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>>729934986
If there's a gang of thieves stealing from a neighborhood, would you respond by saying the thieves aren't doing anything wrong because the people can just move to a different neighborhood?

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>>729930401
because the compass is a lie

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>>729935373
>a voluntary transaction is theft
who are these corporations stealing from, exactly?
communists are fucking delusional

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>>729935533
>who are these corporations stealing from

The people who generated their wealth: the workforce

>>729935373
What exactly is being stolen? This only makes sense given marxs labor value theory is correct, however that can only be proved by a correlating ontology, which doesn't exist... there's nothing logically there, or illogically, that prohibits even the worst of the worst or the best of the best. It's all fair game:

>>729935955
the employee AGREED to work.
if the employee felt like he was not getting paid adequately he would find another job.
>muh profits are evil
>what are capital goods
>what are incentives

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>>729932125
>>729932992
I don't understand the hate.

A corporations job is to provide people with services and things they want, overall they make quality of living higher, they should also provide some of the things that we need.

The governments job is to trade things, let me elaborate. They take our money and trade it for basic public services that benefit everyone like roads and basic health care. They also trade certain freedoms of society, such as economic regulations that disallow monopoly and price fixing, so that competition remains and we all receive high quality services from companies.

overall the people are left as free individuals that have control over who they vote for, the choices they make, their opinions, etc. This is the apex of a great society.

>>729933494
>pursuit of power and wealth is bad!
not when it results in good services that people can benefit from. When there is competition between evil, greedy private corporations (btw the governments job is to make sure there is competition) the ones benefiting are the people of that society, so that picture actually makes no sense.

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>>729936036

The value of their labor is being stolen.

>b-b-but it's voluntary!!1!
It's voluntary in the same way that being held at gunpoint and told to hand over your money is voluntary -- sure you *technically* have the ability to refuse but the consequences are death.

>>729936500
>governments prevent monopoly
that's where you're wrong, kiddo
watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VA9VZeox3g
>they take our money and trade it for public services
they have no incentive to do a good job, as their paycheck doesn't depend on it. nationalized healthcare or education is a monopoly.

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>>729936369
>the employee AGREED to work.
What are the consequences if he doesn't agree? He starves to death. People only accept this condition because they have to or they die. There's nothing libertarian or anti-authoritarian about forcing people to sell themselves into a system of exploitation or die.

If you want to support that scheme, that's up to you but don't go around pretending you care about freedom and liberty.

>>729936508
Did you misunderstand my post? I've stated it's only true insofar it's true... it's a circular argument and Marx knew this. The value of someone labor has no further validation than it being posited as true. There is no value to labor, we have no distinct ontology yet; our being, and it's contingent values are of a nature completely indistinct. The WHOLE of COMMUNISM is based on this axiomatic belief; let me make this clear... BELIEF. It is not a truth of the world, of reality, it is a posited possibility taken to be true by those ignorant of our situation ontologically.

>>729937077
>there is only one company to offer yourself to
>what is competition among companies to attract workers
you must be 18 to post here

>>729930401

this is a shitty politics survey anyway. I'm always bottom right on it but when i take spekr I'm bottom left.

>>729937532
are you retarded? are you sure you don't have that switched up?
it should be the exact opposite.

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>>729937429
>it's okay to be robbed if I get to choose the person robbing me

>>729937642
>implying its yours in the first place without laboring for it.

>>729937077
the picture contradicts the coupled post lmao.. as he ponders his true nature, he realizes ontology is a very complex and hitherto unanswerable question, and subsequently allows for skepticism towards claims of ontological proof, or it's contingencies (i.e., communism and the theory of value subordinate to a belief on man that has no truth value). Who is to say the nature of man does not include being commodified; who is to say that human creation (capitalist system) has a lower position hierarchically than that of individual worth. Why can't the structure be considered dominant? There are questions upon questions that must first be answered before anyone can claim to host the knowledge of human nature.

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>>729933139
when was the last time McDonalds sent out death squads forcing people to buy their McCh...

>>729937642
what's the incentive to create a business if you aren't going to profit from it?

>>729937641

do you believe the market should provide shit like a police force? or firetrucks? ambulances?

>>729938622
yes. why should it not?

>>729937999
He attach to structures human attributes, wrongfully correlating our understanding of existing with that of something different entirely. It does not matter what it's origin is- this again being one of our many epistemology indifferences towards truth- the structure of capitalism may be considered entirely dominant and should be treated as such. Once we throw out the dated faculty of our understanding, we can see in clarity the outrageous claims of communisms adherents; complete certainty of ontological claims and their subsequent forms should be enough to dispute the validity of such a system; but no, ignorance persists, and the underdog of anthropological understanding stands tall on his mountain of fallen victims; for eternal glory we fight! For equality and peace we fight! If only he realized his king was of the same nature as he, and was susceptible to faulty Interpretation...

>>729937077
Are you serious? What are the alternatives? I'm a physician. I opened my own practice. I pay 4 nurses, an PA, and an assistant. I employ a CPA once a year for about a week. All these people work for my voluntarily and are well compensated. I make the most because 1) I'm the expert thanks to 12 years of training and 2) I took the financial risk of opening a practice and do all the business shit associated with it.

Quit bitching. Get a job or go make jobs, it's that simple.

Fucking lazy ass communists always thinking you're worth more than you are.

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>>729930401
Capitalism serves the desires of the powerful, not the individual.

>>729939040
this.
>open business
>pay for building, electricity, goods required to make my product, etc.
>workers I employ somehow are owed everything

>>729936800
>no incentive to do a good job
representatives chosen by the people to best represent them and chosen because they have historically done a good job would most likely do a good job. Their incentive is not to be voted out of office next term.

also I'm saying that it should be the governments job to prevent monopoly because it benefits the people.

>>729939282
>every death that isn't attributed to communism means it was due to capitalism

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because it's not top right master race

>>729939282
Go give people shit then nigger. Sell your computer and send some clean water to an africa baby. Be the change you want to see.

>>729939040

>I took a risky course of action so I deserve to be rewarded for it

Does not follow.

>>729939411
>they have historically done a good job
the politicians tell the people what they want to hear so they can get into office next term, to them it doesn't matter what the consequences of their actions are, as long as it gets more votes. The people don't know what's good for them.
>governments job to prevent monopoly because it benefits the people
the only monopolies that exist are the ones granted by government. Tell me, how does a monopoly occur when there is no government intervention.

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>>729939820
so what's my incentive to try to create a new business or product if i'm not going to be rewarded for it?
Oh wait, there isnt any. Enjoy your technological stagnation and mass starvations.

>>729939820
Answer the rest of it ya goof. What are the alternatives? Should my nurses and my physician assistant be making the same as me despite the fact that I spent 12 years in training and they all spent between 2 and 4 years? Should they make the same even though I do 60+ hours a week when you factor in all the business shit I do while they all work 38-42hrs/wk?

What is your solution to this? I'm genuinely curious. Trying to have a conversation here, not just pointing out that you're a fucking retard with no common sense and probably a lazy shit with no life skills. Trying to actually figure out what you think is a viable alternative to me making more than my employees?

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>>729930401
How are we doing so far in this thread lads? Have we got a bingo yet?

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>>729940264

>>729940264
Anarcho-capitalist:
>but no one is forcing you to shop at wal-mart

Me:
>no one is forcing you to shop at wal-mart but...

Can I cross this one or?

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>>729940171
>What are the alternatives?

>>729941176
you are retard

>>729941159
>i have to post infographs i saved because i can't explain it myself

>>729930401
Because anarcho-capitalism/right wing libertarianism doesn't exist

>>729941176
you are cool dude

>>729941394
So wanting a mixed system is retarded.

>>729941562
refer to
>>729932125

>>729941159
If you could offer your answer specific to my situation. What was my incentive to go to training for 12 years if I'm not going to have wages and if not going to school at all would have left me access to the same "free access to the abundance of socialized production"? Med school was hard. Residency was fucking BRUTAL. I spend 80+ hours at the hospital a week because that's how long it took to learn this shit. It wasn't "wasteful", it was just intense. It takes a lot of time and practice to learn medicine without killing people.

So why would I have gone through all that if I could have the same lifestyle as my nurses who trained much less? If there was an easier way to have wealth, I promise I would've done it. So, who would be our doctors? Why would they go through the training?

Get specific. Try to convince me.

>>729941562
Not the guy you're replying to but yes

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>>729930401
Because people in that area tend to be crackpots.
I see you're not too far right so you might still be redeemable.

>>729932125
More than bollocks but ok

>>729941634
You can fucktard, maybe your small fucking brain can't understand that, but you can

Also, (((them))) jfc, you are just a rightwing sjw

>>729941761
nah im not we just dont care about the people that actually are and not having an opinion about that sorta thing makes people think we are too

>>729941835
>>729941805
then explain to me how you're going to enact social programs,welfare,and all your other leftist bullshit while having a small government.

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Because I approve of social welfare and a 2-tier medical system (like Australia's), but also know that large businesses will do whatever they can to make money if they're not regulated sufficiently to be good for the environment/employees/world.

>>729941979
I'm not the original guy you were arguing with but i'll address this, sure.

OK, so there wouldn't be "social programs" and "welfare" as you put it as there would be no need for such things in a truly free society. There would be no surplus in wealth and private property and no inequality therefore there would be no need for "closing the gap" or whatever the fuck liberals say these days.

>>729941979
Force private charities to do it using the military and police.

>>729942443
>authoritatively
thanks for proving my point

>>729942723
That isn't me.

You do it the same way they do it now.

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>>729930401
Is this good?

>>729942784
considering that site is left leaning as fuck, yes

>>729933139

Because of the state we have now, fucking pinkertons can't shoot up a crowd of workers asking for better conditions.

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>>729930401
because it's on the right

>>729942973
>burger king executes their employees for asking for better conditions
>suddenly no one wants to work there
>not to mention murder is pretty bad for PR
>run out of business

>see this thread
>wow, /b/ has n intelectual thread
>actually read it

Sorry /b/, but go back to porn and leave the politics to /pol/. It's better that way.

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>>729930401

Guess who I voted for.

>>729943314
Mao?
Stalin?
Pol Pot?

>>729943314
Not Bernie because he wasn't even in the race

>>729943115
So, while thats happening, how do I pay my bills, rent, get food? tell me.

>>729943533
You work?

How about we meet in the middle?

You sjws that want to have social medicine and give a bunch of fat, lazy, drug addicted, excuse making useless pieces of meat your money, go ahead. Just leave me and my money that I've earned from working my ass off every single day alone.

I don't make a lot: keep your thieving lazy fingers off if it.

>>729943314
Stalin

>>729941656
>If you could offer your answer specific to my situation

You'd have to post detailed financial information of your practice to get a complete answer. Example: do you raise your employees' salary proportionally to the growth of your business or do you pocket it because you think you "deserve" it? It's possible you aren't ripping off your employees, but judging by your earlier statements that seems unlikely. You aren't entitled to take the surplus of your employees' labor no matter how much education or training you have. Theft is still theft. This holds true even if your employees are making a decent living (e.g. embezzlement is still theft even though the victims are still living comfortable despite the theft). As for the "voluntary" part, just because your employees can choose to be exploited by you or some other employer doesn't change the fact that they are being exploited.

Workers with higher skill levels should be paid more, as should workers who work longer hours/etc. I never said otherwise. You deserve to reap the rewards of your own hard work, not someone else's -- that includes your employees. What would happen to your practice if all your employees and all qualified potential employees went on strike? You are qualified to do all their jobs of course, but running your practice without employees would be a minor inconvenience would it not? You deserve to be compensated fairly for your skill and your work, as do your employees.

>>729943533
do you think you need a government to do your daily activities?

>>729937150

You, as well as many others, with your bourgeois formalist logics, can not conceive of the social totality of man and his essence in the world. You fail to fucking see value as an abstract produced by man's means of subsistence. Fucking idiot, throwing the word "ontological" as if it means something pertaining to a critique of Marxist thought.

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>>729942784
Fine by me

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Centrism, best of the left und right.

>>729944232

To add on to this post ^

You failed at critically understanding major fucking points about value in Das Kapital. Stop spouting what your fucking high school teacher said, you fucking idiot.

>>729943963
aaaand we're back to the incentive problem. Why should i bother taking a risk in starting a new business and providing a better product for the public if i'm not going to be rewarded for it?

>>729944232
>>729944452
>fucking fucks, fucking idiots fuck
>no argument found
your autism is showing

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>>729944369
>best of left
>

>>729943115

Seriously? That's your fucking response? Fucking green text. This is why 4chan is shit when discussing intellectual theoretics. Fucking disgusting filth.

>>729943533
No OP. But you find a better job. Minimum wage jobs are meant to be starter and retiree jobs. It's not meant to support you.

As a teen, you live with your parents. Your bills are your wants and possibly your insurance.

As a retiree, to have a pension that pays the majority of your bills. You work to either supplement that, or just to stay busy because you know that once you stop moving, you're dead.

Where I live, $350 per week is minimum survival. It's a place to live, basic food, and if you're lucky enough to already own a car, maintenance. Clothes come from Goodwill or Walmart. That's for one person. Add another person, and you add 50% to the expenses. The rent is the same, and the maintenance is the same. The rest goes up. Having a kid? There's another 33% increase, if you have food stamps.

If that's $350 per week, how do you even think about surviving on 700 per month?

>>729944658

I simply pointed out what you might want to read more about before throwing fucking words together that you took from your ass.

the positive claim bears the burden of proof, but yeah anywhere near the middle seems gud

>>729945002
I wasn't the person you replied to.
I'm simply saying that saying 'fuck' as you did here >>729944727 every third word isn't going to make you sound very smart, same goes for jamming big words into your argument just for the sake of big words

>>729936036
>>729944232
>>729944232

If one examines Sartreist existentialism, one is faced with a choice: either reject communism or conclude that class, perhaps surprisingly, has intrinsic meaning. The primary theme of the works of Rushdie is not, in fact, narrative, but postnarrative. Therefore, several constructions concerning material rationalism may be found. Dahmus implies that the works of Rushdie are modernistic. But the subject is interpolated into a subcapitalist desituationism that includes sexuality as a reality. If Foucaultist power relations holds, we have to choose between subtextual deconstruction and cultural postdialectic theory. Therefore, cultural predeconstructivist theory suggests that the goal of the poet is social comment. Finnis implies that we have to choose between the premodernist paradigm of reality and textual postdeconstructivist theory.

In a sense, several narratives concerning subtextual deconstruction may be discovered. The subject is interpolated into a semantic rationalism that includes sexuality as a whole.

>>729935373
This pic is retard af - u clearly haven't been a ceo or a top branch affiliate

>>729943314
I respect that position if you have down syndrome and you're wheelchair-bound. I mean it seriously

>>729945466
no shit lmao.
you really thought a commie would be anywhere near a top position, let alone employed?

>>729930401
It's Libertarian and moderate so I can't.

>>729945328
>/r/iamverysmart

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Bich nga's

no-one likes blue but it's actually the only way to go
I guarantee humanity will eventually settle on blue

let's face it, if ur not near the center, regardless of quadrant, ur probably autistic

>>729935522
Context needed

>>729944725
Economically
>right
Free market where you can buy, sell, exchange, choose whatever you want
>left
with restrictions from the got. on big corporations so they don't get a monopoly and hinder the locals
Socially
>right
the majority race is favoured, making it easier for them to get education, healthcare, jobs, and more pension funds
>left
recognize and celebrate the minority's tradition, culture, and contributions to our country but mostly we just let them to themselves because they don't like being bothered anyways

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>>729946093
>tfw too smart to have an opinion

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>>729930401

>>729946279
>restrictions on bug corporations so they don't get a monopoly
enlighten me, how does a corporation get a monopoly on a product in a free market without government intervention.

There is no "best" place on the political compass. If you are lower on the class spectrum, You are going to want to get as much help as possible to not live in poverty. This tends to put you authoritarian left. You want and need government to move in with programs to protect you.

As you move to the educated middle class you are going to move libertarian left because while you need less assistance of your own, you recognize that others need help and you are willing to continue social programs to help (though not necessarily government funded programs.)

If you are not well educated, you tend to have a narrower world view, which tends to put you in the Libertarian right. You want government and other people "out of your monies". You buy into the lower tax promises, not understanding that your bigger issue is suppressed wages and that you are taking the bait laid out by the final group...

...Which is the upper class (educated or not). Once you are in the upper class you have one concern, making more money. Despite what these guys claim, they want government. They can pay lobbyists to create laws than keep them rich. Because of this they end up in the Authoritarian right. These people could not win elections on their own, so they pump money into the propaganda machines to influence the uneducated libertarian right into voting their way. If the uneducated libertarian right ACTUALLY voted in their best interests we would be talking about President Ron Paul right now instead of Trump.

>>729944877
This is a dumb statement, first, minimum wage as it is was not intended as a "starter wage", it was a government requirement for people to get a living wage. If it had kept up with the economy and inflation, it would be at $12 to $15 an hour by now. The worst part is while costs of items have gone up, the money that was made off it has gone into the pockets of the rich, not into the workers pockets.

>>729946459
heh, that's where it depends on the human soul. if it's corrupt then this system will fuck itself over and lean towards right or left.
>it could work if we're all sincere
well then, case closed. it'll never work

>>729946948
you didn't answer the question.
specifically how does a monopoly form under a free market?

>>729946894
>/b/
>purple
you're either blind or retarded, or both.

>>729945328

Lmfao. Is this a fucking joke? Sexuality plays no fucking role in the objectivity of value in regards to what Marx spoke about in Kapital. The idiot I was arguing with has no clue what value is, rather he shits out meaningless sentences. Many people get confused when Marx talked about value being objective and a social abstraction from man's labor. It is literally more complex then you think it is. If I was responding to an actual professor critiquing value, in regards to Marxist understanding, then I would take 'this', the argument, seriously and explain every single fucking thing to that kid.

>>729947119
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>729947064
>monopoly under a free market
well, it happens when consumers choose such product from such company and just that, ignoring the other companies products. Supply=Demand, with the other companies going down, the consumer's choice is going to control the flow of the product.
>honestly think rn kfc has niggers under a chokehold

>>729947064

Somalia has monopolies lol

>>729946459
>>729947064
A true free market with no regulations (as in no anti-monopoly laws) will mathematically lead to monopolies. People who think some other company will spring up and compete if a company owns the vast majority of the market ignores reality. The company with majority control can afford to undercut their opponent for years even if it means a loss for their profits for those years. Because once the competition is dead, they can hike shit back up so high they make back their profits. These markets aren't "free markets" they're "captive markets."

Libertarian ideology was taken over by corporate executives/leaders long ago so they could use it to push deregulation so they could make more profit no matter what damage they do to other people or other businesses or the economy as a whole. They don't care about that. They only care about profits. Fun facts, corporate executives are four times more likely to be sociopaths compared to the average human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace ). And yet people think these people should be listened to or running our nation? What a joke.

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>>729944877
Obviously this math is such a a exaderation that u should be ashamed / family of 2 with a child = 350 $ a month... nah Nigga that ain't right // what about medical bill // intuition fees / loans / unseen events ; window breaking - theft/robbery / any extra thing on top

Each month u need at least 2500$ to survive a healthy risk free life /without collage for ur kid and without medical safety?

7.500$ is a decent life
10.000$ now we are talking

Or me 1.550 500 with 7.000.000 in ma account ready to go after I'm Done reading my connsuier and Economist while drinking my espresso from 20.000$ machine using beans for 750$

It's all about the money in the end

>>729947766
Ask a 7m on his acc anything

>>729947363
so consumers pick the most desirable products for them. I see nothing wrong with that.
>>729947472
What's stopping new companies from entering once they start hiking the price?
What you described is predatory pricing, yet there isn't any example of it happening in history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VA9VZeox3g
go to 39:20, he explains it very well.

>>729947194
Sontag suggests the use of the modern paradigm of expression to analyse and modify class. However, if constructive subcultural theory holds, we have to choose between socialist realism and capitalist theory. Thus, one must question the use of socialist realism to challenge colonialist perceptions of culture. Derrida’s analysis of socialist realism implies that reality comes from the masses. In a sense, if the modern paradigm of expression holds, the subject is interpolated into a socialist realism that includes consciousness as a whole. It could be said that the main theme at work is the common ground between reality and class.

We have to choose between socialist realism and postpatriarchialist construction. It could be said that several narratives concerning not, in fact, theory, but pretheory may be found.

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>>729930401
>anywhere but dead center
I have no opinion on your decision whatsoever.
>>729932992
September 1987.

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Because this is you fucking neocon dick tickling faggot!

Did I accidentally click on /pol/?

>>729930401
That's exactly where I got

>>729932992
new favorite image

im in the exact same spot as ghandi

>>729950641
Also known as bernie

>>729930401
I think I'm just in the center.

>>729951165

nah bernie isn't that liberal

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>>729933494

>>729952215
you know food is meant to be eaten right

>>729939282

>capitalism is the reason africa is shit and niggers are dumb

no

>>729942784
It's ideal.

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Am I cancer /b/?

>>729952703
not cancer enough. you can do better.

>>729952215
Socialism sucks but that's a retarded way to argue lol.

>>729952371
holy shit

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>>729930401

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>>729952371

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>>729952703
no you seem like a pretty cool guy

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>>729952590
>africa

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>>729952215
If socialism doesn't work, why did Jesus invent it?

>>729953555

Most of them are fat and unhealthy
good riddance

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>>729953353

Hebephilia is literally natural

>>729954403
So? Appeal to nature fallacy.

>>729954790

Why shouldn't I fuck 14 year olds? Appeal to culture?

>>729953473
Educate the public vigorously. Teach people to produce goods at their own homes using robotics. Promote solar panels, wind turbines, and thermo-electricity in every home. Disband using coal, natural gas, and oil. Convert to solar/wind/thermoelectric vehicles. Go back to a resource based economy where people are producing goods at their own homes and trading between families, and in the community. Build a massive monorail / magnetic bullet train grid system across the entire country with solar/wind/thermo-electric technology built in for complete sustainability. People can travel within the country for free, but use metal based coinage for international travel which they trade resources that they produced at home for.

>>729955173
Appeal to negro fallacy.

>>729953473
the mine owner's owned the gold before it was take out of the ground
>they own the ground too

>>729955328
Agree with everything except return to a barter system. Automation will make human labor obsolete in the coming decades. The path to a Star Trek type utopia exists.

>>729953854
source?

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>>729952371

>>729935522
The one on the left is certainly bullshit, Bernie is nowhere near that far left... Look at some actual left wing countries and compare policies etc...