would the Soviet Union still be around today if they had tried

>>729805155
How did Canada manage fight off the Ruskies?

>>729805672
>Russia wanting more frozen wasteland

>>729805672
during the invasion Trudeau was killed in battle and as a result Canada won

go on then lets hear the funny reason why spain was spared

>>729805155
Sadly, no. Communism assumes men are angels. It must always be tempered with more pragmatic governance.

probably not because if they did they would not have a national military and wouldn't be able to fend off surrounding imperialists as well

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>>729806028
Goodnight Sweet Prince

>>729806551
It was siesta time and everyone had to go to sleep

>>729807049
shit, try another one

they did lol. it went it's course to the natural end of communism, a totalitarian dictatorship

>>729805155
Wtf? Argentina commie? Fuck you,we dont like the reds,we have the triple A

>>729807528
isn't your country about to descend into civil war?

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>would communism work if...

>>729805155
>real by the book communism
you're 12
hi kid
what happened in soviet russia is what happens when any group of humans tries "by the book communism:
N.B.: those "books" (c manifesto, das k) were written by a wealthy German man and/or his pal.

>>729807829
according to puerile wishful argens? sure
keep revising your revisionist history

>>729807251
Alright, they didn't invade Spain because then they would have to touch Poortugal

>>729805155
okay kid, let me explain this to you

communism failed bacause it has been tried with actual real life humans

it would be a nice system with some fictional race of people who are only interested in the good of the whole community

but humans aren't
humans are interested only in themselves and their family members and friends
so the system must accomodate this tendency or die (like communism did)

>>729805155
No because the capitalists had more resources and lives to spare.

>>729808288
only because youre too selfish to comprehend the idea that everyone could be fair and equal

>>729810259
everyone isn't equal some people are better than others life will always be a meritocracy

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>>729808288
>2017
>Using falacia ad hominem
>Virgin

>>729805155
No, the problem of communism is the lack of capitalism (capitalists, entrepreneurs, market economy, competition...), since the industrial revolution, mankind has evolved hundreds of years in decades.

>>729805155
>real by the book communism

Depends on which book. Marx and Engels talked about shit very differently from, say, Lenin and Trotsky, who talked about shit very differently from Mao and Ho.

For example, if you focus on Marx's basic "workers controlling the means of production" as an economic model, you could mean preserving the basic capitalist meritocratic financial structure while inverting the management-worker social structure -- it doesn't have to bring with it *equal* distribution of wealth and labor, etc, as Mao advocated.

And in that sense a conservative labor-centric Marxism in which one simply says, "ok, the physical labourers now get more pay and social status than the desk-bound bottom-managers because by any standard they have a harder job," has not been tried -- not even by adjusting respective hazard pay and insurance benefits.

On the other hand, such social inversion with *teachers*, *nurses*, and some other professions has been studied and attempted. For example, the social status of ElHi teachers in the US and Europe are completely inverted, as are performance efficiency and outcomes (though causal connection is obviously very difficult to demonstrate).

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>>729805155
Around would be an understatement. If Russia tried real communism, we would all be giant blue eyed Aryan male. No women. Beautiful gay blonde stallion from Nepal to the Appalachian mountains. We would ass fuck each other all day while machine automatically produce and harvest our crops. People would go to the Moon and lose their virginity in cheap moon base with hung prostitutes.

This is by the book communism. Fully automatic gay space communism

>>729807251

Because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

>>729812802
kek

>>729805155
China is USSR 2.0

Atleast in some way

>>729813638
Just because they say they are communist does not make it remotely true. If you think China is then please refrain from voting.

>>729813638
>Atleast in some way

In no way. China is not now, nor has it ever been, *anything* like the USSR or Russia. Chinese Communism is and was like Soviet Communism the same way American Democracy is like Athenian Democracy.

Geopolitically, China has only ever had tacit alliances with the USSR just to counter Western expansion and imperialism (Nam, etc) and UN control. Otherwise they *hate* each other.

Finally, their end goals and ideals, both for their people and their place in the world, have essentially been completely different for their entire histories.