Why can't states use confiscated heroin as the lethal injection

8th Amendment.

It would be considered cruel and unusual punishment. but considering the stuff they have to use now it would honestly be better to bring back the Firing Squad

>>729280569

because they WANT it to be painful, and that would be far less painful then midalazolam, nevermind kcl. why you think they also use vecuronium? so nobody sees the screaming and thrashing that would be happening if they could move.

we've had dozens of painless methods for a century now, the current protocol isn't one of them.

probably because its a schedule 1 substance ergo illegal across the board

Drug addicts get the right hump when the EMT's bring them back from an overdose. So it must be a pleasant way to go.

>>729282288

well that's because it throws them into precipitated withdrawal. way worse than regular withdrawal.

>>729280569
Confiscated heroin may not be 100% heroin. Could be cut with fentanyl or other drugs.

>>729280569
The whole process of execution is terrible. Why not just keep then in prison for the rest of their lives.

>>729283987
Expensive, some would argue that its not harsh enough for some crimes

>>729283987
fucking faggot, underage b& who doesn't even pay taxes

In some countries they have/do divert confiscated illegal drugs such as heroin for use in hospitals and such, if it's of high enough purity.

The main reason they wouldn't use heroin as a method of capital punishment is that it isn't as easy to overdose on heroin as people think, with widely varying tolerances amongst individuals. Also, a prisoner could prepare themselves with something like naloxone which would make the heroin pretty much useless.

>>729283987
Oh boy I can't wait to spend millions of dollars giving murderers a a comfy place to live, educate themselves, and make friends for the rest of their lives.

Easy... no big business to earn mo ey

>>729280569

because it's a painful way to Die

>>729284087
The legal proces necessary for an execution are even more expensive

Why don't we spend 25 cents and just shoot them in the back of the head? The death is instant in the right location and you don't need a team of doctors to do it. It's because we need to spend 10k to feel better about ourselves for executing a serial killer or a rapist pedophile.

>>729284087
>>729284943
Make the prisons more harsh (as in less comforts) then to toughen the penalty? Just set up a Soviet-style gulag in Montana. That would save money and they'd probably die earlier too.

>>729285267
>a massive dose of an opioid to the heart is painful
people usually just lose consciousness immediately.

It's like suicide with painkillers. The amount of pain relief granted by the substance is superseded by the absolutely hideous pain of having your organs swell up and fail.

They should stick to hanging, or firing squad, if the condemned is to enjoy a quick death

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>>729285574
This is exactly what they do in Belarus

>>729285459
but then you consider that cost difference is relatively insignificant compared to the fact that we have hundreds of thousands of life sentence prisoners yet only a few hundred death row inmates.

and the increased cost of death penalty prisoners is almost entirely unintended legal and administrative manipulation and bloat in the first place.

>>729285690
cruel and unusual punishment

you guys are thinking way too small. why dont we just exterminate all the niggers and prevent crime that way?

>>729286003
>>729285574
Is it really 25c? If capital punishment was legal in my country I would definitely be in favour of a firing squad death.

>think of the savings!

>>729285711
Even unconscious you can feel pain.

I've had periods where pain in my tummy enters into my dreams before waking me up. It's horrible. I can't imagine what dying while unconscious would be like.

>>729286265
that doesn't account for any legal fees, imprisonment costs, paid executioners, etc. it's just the cost of a bullet used in hyperbolic context. that's like saying execution in the US is only $10,000 because that's all the drugs cost.

>>729286265
Well firing squad and hanging must be the most inexpensive options you have. Maybe the guillotine too. Very little and rudimentary equipment and other set ups required really compared to the "modern" methods.

>>729285574
the problem is that who will shot him?
not everybody is ready/accepting to kill. (aka too much trauma)

>>729286277
>pain in my tummy

u duh reel mvp

>>729282887
fentanyl is as leathal

>>729286833
I would like to know how those fees stack up against keeping someone alive for decades on a life sentence.

>>729280569
Yay! Party time on death row.

>>729287635
it's much more expensive to keep someone on death row, but this is an american problem because they take literally decades to execute convicted murderers instead of taking them out back and plugging them in the head the week after their convictions.

their argument for the broken system is "we'd rather prevent one wrongful execution of a still scummy person than precipitate the just punishment of thousands more, regardless of the bloated cost of hundreds of millions of dollars to do so"

despite the fact that since the inception of DNA evidence wrongful executions have all but disappeared.

Because it would be a slow, incredibly excruciating, and messy ass execution--think vomit and shit everywhere.

Plus, the idea here is that we show humanity that this person never showed, it's how you know that we are better than the person you are executing.

Also, going back to how terrible it would be to watch, the families of victims that watch the execution aren't going to be into watching the equivalent of real time snuff.

>>729282065
Wrong. Ever OD before?

>>729280569
Because it'd feel better than having a seizure and it's too humane. Laws too.

>>729287121
That's means people who are prepared to do it would be in demand so more $ for them

>>729280569
Why can't states just inject prisoners with cyanide, its cheap and easily available ?

>>729290091
because it gets you high xD

>>729290091
cruel and unusual punishment

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Gavin McInnes speaks for a second about the time Harmony was going to cut Terry Richardson
http://youtu.be/17OQzOtZLhg?t=52m41s
BTW, Gavin totally got that part about Harm not knowing T-Bone was a junkie at the time, 100% wrong.
there are many photographs for proof that T-Bone was hanging with Harm around the time they both started smoking heroin and snorting blow.
my guess is that Harm was going to cut T-Bone over some bad drug deal or because he was going to leak his nudes:
http://i.imgur.com/89zTTuQ.jpg
he is basically referring to Harm there +there were a few models/actresses that were pissed at T-Bone for "leaking" shots they didn't approve of.
also, earlier that week on Gavin's show, he was talking about his memory of those days not being so good, so that is why he totally fucked up about Harm not knowing T-Bone was going to nod out all day :idea:

>>729289201
Heroin OD is blissful and painless...

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“My goal was to put together a calendar that you could jerk off to,” says fashion photographer Terry Richardson of the new calendar he shot for Supreme. “I know I would jerk off to this, so I feel like I’ve succeeded.” At the shoot in LA, what started out as a slightly saucy experience turned into three days of cum shots, coke and cockfights. “Things got a bit out of hand by the end,” admits Terry. “The woman producing the shoot got freaked out and had to leave. I think every person there fucked someone. It was intense.”

>>729280569
why cant states use a free rope for years and years for capital punishment

>>729280569
This girl is too young to sign up to a dating site http://www.swingeer.com

>>729286277
Let's see dem tiddies

Terry Richardson is pretty talented, Grainy photos in a dingy studio, talent

>>729283987
Fuck you. You clearly don't know what going to prison is like, multiple life sentences I'd probably opt out for death. It's awful to be institutionalized, if you kill someone you deserve death (depending on the circumstances) and the family members of the people's lives you ruined should be able to pull the plug.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20041207203108/http://www.terryrichardson.com/Portraits/portraits_index5.html

How does this creepy looking weirdo convince people to get so graphic?

Prolly drugs..

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>>729297662
drugs are good \m/

>>729280569
because you don't deserve to get high if even the courts think you should die.

>>729283987
I'd argue that death is less painful than living the rest of your life like a caged animal, never to step foot from that compound ever again.

>>729280569
Because it would be too much fun for the prisoners

>>729297662
he's extremely aggressive and probably a sociopath. there have been tons of sexual harassment and misconduct allegations against him. nothing sticks because he's basically top dog in whatever niche he occupies.

>>729298657
It looks like he molests everyone who walks into his studio

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>>729299154
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John Waters:
I heard that Terry Richardson was doing the photo shoot for this piece. Did you see his book, Terryworld? Did you look through it? And are you going to show your dick in this photo shoot?

Johnny Knoxville:
Uh, Terry might already have some photos of that! [both laugh]


John Waters:
What luck for the editors of GENRE! Well, Terry’s is a great book. He always shows his own dick! It seems like he’s the only photographer who, judging from his book, shows up nude with a hard-on to take your picture. That’s a refreshing new twist, I guess, in a shoot.

Johnny Knoxville:
Yeah, he’s got a monster cock on him, for sure. And his assistant, Keiichi, will stand there with his cock out, playing with it, while Terry’s shooting.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20060117030549/http://www.genremagazine.com/2005/7-1/magazine/content/knoxville.cfm

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steve O ~
""In the summer of 2004, I was in the back of a cab, riding through New York City, when my cell phone rang. It was Knoxville. “Hey, I’m at Terry Richardson’s studio,” he told me. “He wants to do a bukkake shoot and we’re just a few cocks short. You game?” Bukkake, for the uninitiated, is when several dudes shoot their loads on one girl. Of course I was game. Terry Richardson is a famous—or, perhaps, infamous—photographer known for his extremely risqué, sexually graphic photo shoots. I’d met him the year before when he shot press photos for the Lollapalooza tour. We’d hit it off pretty well. When I arrived at his studio that afternoon, Knoxville immediately made it clear that he, personally, wanted no part of this photo shoot. When Terry explained the concept to me, I understood why. He wanted a photo of me pulling a girl’s hair while I shot a load on her face and someone else pointed a gun at her head. Knoxville later told me he had no idea a gun would be involved. Regardless, the whole thing sounded fine to me. The girl in question was a young-looking model—I was assured that she wasn’t too young—and soon she went to work giving me a blow job.""

>>729299340
That's just fucking weird

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""I had her hair in my hand but having someone holding a gun to her head was really throwing me off. As I’ve said, I’m quick on the draw, but something about a dude holding a gun was not particularly arousing. We devised a solution: once I reached the point of no return, so to speak, I’d call for the gun to be brought into the frame. So that’s how I came to be yelling “Gun! Gun! Gun!” one beautiful summer afternoon in Manhattan as some dude brought a pistol to the head of a young model whose face I was about to cum on. I know: classy. Later that same night I met a gorgeous Danish model named May Andersen. Knoxville knew her somehow and brought me along to her birthday party at the Gansevoort Hotel. He introduced us, we got fucked up together, and I spent that night with her in her hotel room. May was only twenty-two but already a reasonably big deal in the modeling world. She’d been in Victoria’s Secret catalogs and two Sports Illustrated swimsuit issues. We didn’t really have a ton in common beyond the fact that we both liked to party—hard—but we ended up dating for the next six months or so. Looking back on it, I probably wasn’t ready for a serious relationship at that point in my life. I mean, I don’t know if the fact that just a few hours earlier I’d been getting my cock sucked by a complete stranger while someone held a gun to her head automatically meant that my relationship with May was doomed to fail, but it probably didn’t help.""

>>729299437
That's even weirder

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>>729299635
hey T-Bone just loves to rock out with his cock out \m/

>>729299586
>>729299437
this reads like a neckbeard-written fanfic

most of /b/ won't admit it and hide behind their usual cock rate, tribute shit or niggers have biggers dicks threads but this guy here is what every /b/tard wants to be.

>>729289018
showing humanity would be not killing them at all

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>>729299914
hail !!

>>729289201

i haven't ODd on midazolam but yes i've IV'd it before. it's not fun when you take too much; but that's really not the point. it's a sedative, but even if it was a painkiller... kcl shutting your heart down hurts so fucking much that doesn't matter, and the vecuronium paralyzes people so they can't go screaming about it

>>729280569
What you need to know is that the death penalty isn't about killing people. That's a fixed issue. It's about raising money for political campaigns. If you implement a solution, the money stops rolling in.

Liberals want to use fucked up drugs that have a high rate of failure so the practice can be shit-canned.

Conservatives want to use drugs with a low rate of failure so there aren't any issues.

Both sides want to keep the issue going. So when push comes to shove, what do we do? Keep the issue. See also gay marriage, immigration, abortions.

>>729280569
Because it's cruel and unusual.

>>729280569

that cunt needs to shave her fucking armpits

>>729301190
whats wrong shitlord, can't handle a strong independent womyn?

>>729291010
Isn't he a conservative commentator now?

>>729283987

it costs money, i know that executing costs money too and maybe it's just my european forefathers talking now but it wouldn't have to cost alot if they would just go old school and use the guillotine and decapitations with axes
just get a dude strong enough to swipe their head off in one go and be done with it.
they would only have to sharpen the blade once it goes blunt, money issue solved

>>729301373
>shitlord

i don't know how you know my scatforum username but i.m. the patriarchy, wymons need to look decent