When will you infidels admit that the West needs Islam now more

>>728769446

>Islam is the perfect way of life for all mankind.

ohh really? by killing non muslim people, married underage girl, woman must follow request what husband even he ask to rape her. Force women to wear burka/hijab. Can married many women at once. Arranged marriage.

Russia will eliminate all of you less than 2 years

>>728770258
>by killing non muslim people
We kill hostile people, including "Muslims" who support infidel bombings.

>married underage girl
We trust science and biology of Allah, not pagan laws that measure revolutions the earth makes around the sun.

>woman must follow request what husband even he ask to rape her.
If he asks and she agrees, it's not rape. If he asks and she disagrees, it is not allowed.
Muslim women are obedient and loyal.

>Force women to wear burka/hijab.
Women are more than eye candy. It's time you western perverts learned this.

> Can married many women at once.
Yes. One man can reproduce with many women. The other way around doesn't make any sense.


>Arranged marriage.
Men and women must agree to marriage beforehand.

Only lies come out of infidel mouths.

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>>728769446
>When will you infidels admit that the West needs Islam now more than ever?

When the majority of people accept a pedophilic warlord who flew to the skies on a winged horse as their prophet and leader.
Too bad that most of the western countries arent comparable to the shitholes you emerged of.

Also we know something unfamiliar to sandniggers called "Education".

So SpoilerAlert: Never.

Deus Vult.

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>>728771145
>Too bad that most of the western countries arent comparable to the shitholes you emerged of.
Because you keep using your armies to destroy us... Of course. Why else do you think we started the Jihad?

You don't seem educated at all.

Islam will take over the West without a single bullet being fired. Interbreeding, higher birth rates and demonization of white culture is yielding the results. There is literally nothing you can do to stop it. Either convert to Islam and join us, or kys.

>>728770696
>We kill hostile people, including "Muslims" who support infidel bombings.
Then why dont you all just kys?

>We trust science and biology of Allah...
Thats where you made the wrong turn, goatsymcgee.

>If he asks and she agrees, it's not rape. If he asks and she disagrees, it is not allowed.
But if she doesnt agree it's perfectly fine to beat her until she agrees, right?

>Women are more than eye candy. It's time you western perverts learned this.
Did you assume this from under your burka?

>Yes. One man can reproduce with many women. The other way around doesn't make any sense.
This is not exclusive to islam, you dont need a religion to live in polygamy.

>Men and women must agree to marriage beforehand.
If they dont they just get stoned. (The bad stoned)

>When will you infidels admit that the West needs Islam now more than ever?

Kek

Not even entirely sure if shitpost or OP is retarded.

>>728769446
We dont need islam.
We need slavs

>>728769446
>when the b8 is so bad it's good

>>728769446
This is some of the highest quality bait I have ever seen.

>>728771387
You fucking prick!
Just read the history on your middle eastern countries!
You did good down there in the sands until Islam emerged again with more power than before.
Iran is the perfect example. Islam destroyed your chances and still does.
Now tell me again how gud islam is...

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>>728771488
Less edgy one liners and more facts and logic please.

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>>728771692
finally a good use for that book.
even if its just as a plate.

>>728771807
oh i thought, because you also just gave edgy oneliners and stupid comments so far away from truth, this would be the new edgelord and autistic championship?!!

We wouldnt stand any chance against a muslim anyway though.

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>>728771488
allah says the birds fly only because he keeps them in the sky.
allah says the ships float because he keeps them on the water.
allah says the moon was once split in half.
allah says the sun sets in a muddy swamp.
allah says the earth is flat as a carpet.

you trust the """science""" of allah hm?

>>728771629
>Iran is the perfect example. Islam destroyed your chances and still does.
People were Muslim before the Islamic revolution too. Bad politics and US meddling ruined it, not Islam.

islam will not divide us

>>728771929
>edgy oneliners
Where? I gave facts and reasoning. You gave made up claims unrelated to initial claim.

>>728771964
whenever muslims slaughter each other its never their own fault because... ?!?!

because they are futile and too stupid too live on this planet without completetly fucking it all up?

without the "bad western worlds" inventions like the automobile you wouldnt even have money. without the automobile oil would be worth shit.

>>728771944
Allah has never said any of those things.

>>728772089
mohammed molested children. just saiyan

>>728771964
You have any more of dem jokes and lies?

>>728772045
>We kill hostile people, including "Muslims" who support infidel bombings.
>Women are more than eye candy. It's time you western perverts learned this.

Can you really be this stoopid nigga?

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now give back constantinople and the hagia sophia before we have to launch anotzher crusade.

pepe vult,
deus kek'd.

>>728772085
>whenever muslims slaughter each other its never their own fault because... ?!?!
You were talking about the Islamic revolution, now you've skipped to war? Logical congruency is a tall order for a modern Westerner in the age where Trump is seen as the height of intelligence.

>>728769446
Fuck me dead sand nigger... most of that shit can be avoided, or is harmless if you learn to ignore it (like grownups do).

2 things that I find hard to ignore on your list, are anti-intellectualism, and mass shootings. Things that Islam is ironically a world leader in demonstrating.

Try harder faggot.

t. Some nobody who doesn't give a fuck about this issue of "gods".

>>728772138
You define children as anyone under 18. That's your problem. You think like a pagan.

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>>728772089
"Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah . Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe." Surah 16:79

hold on, i will give you quran quotes for everything i said.

>>728770696
Many retorts. I noticed you failed to respond to Russia wiping you out in 2 yrs.

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>>728772138
Me too

>>728772248
Wasnt the same guy you idiot muslim sandnigger faggot.
Anyway.. for Iran - it was entirely islam.
For you ofc the west is guilty.. like for everything else. Isnt it?

Never was it the narrowminded views of people like you which prevented success and advancement in your shitholes you call home.

Stay there, keep your religion there and nobody cares about you or your 5 y/o wife.
After Astronomy and Algebra we can live without you - thanks for your concern!

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>>728772089
from hadith:

That the Meccan people requested Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon.

Sahih bukhari volume 4 book 59 hadith 831

>>728772396
at least goku felt remorse. that twat mohammed just took a shit on his first born and ate a raw goat leg.

>>728772300
Allah is responsible for gravity and wind so...

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>>728772443
This guy gets it.

>>728772396
Close.

>>728772248
it was a rethorical question, so indeed you seem to be too futile to live on this world.

now see the quran and hadith quotes im posting.

>>728772298
The law defines that.
Maybe something the Sharia Law doesnt address?

>>728770258
Everything but the killing part sounds perfect, i'am sold how do i convert and get a submissive qt3.14 islam waifu?

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>>728772546
>When I got a reply

>>728772443
>For you ofc the west is guilty.. like for everything else. Isnt it?
Just like how Mexicans and immigrants are responsible for your failing economies and everything bad in white countries, isn't it?...

What's want to blame everyone else for everything, except their own greedy, warmongering selves.

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>>728772089
>>728772248

Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."

Surah 18:86

>>728772705
you can get 72.
Just kys

>>728772659
Sharia law uses bilogy to determine readiness for sexual intercourse. You use pagan milestones.

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>>728769446
This is way to stupid to be b8

>>728772547
and he also says the earth is flat like a carpet. yes yes..

"And the earth - We have spread it and cast therein firmly set mountains and caused to grow therein [something] of every well-balanced thing."

surah 15:19

"spread" implies earth is flat.

>>728772812
>As if
Westerners cannot understand metaphors. LOL.

But I suppose you lot are "real smart". You must know the best words. LOL.

>>728772761
omg you really are retarded.

What gives you the impression our economies are failing?
Also i think its a bit arrogant of you, telling other economies that they are failing when none of the middle eastern countries have something remotely similar to an economy.

>>728772903
So if she bleeds, she's ready?

Seems legit.. fuck the age of consent or the fact that they may dont even understand the act of sex at that given age.

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>>728772298
well, tell me then.
what is a good age?
7 years? 8 years?
or maybe 9 years to follow the example of muhammad?

>>728773015
>"spread" implies earth is flat.
I spread lube around my cock and balls before I shoved it in your mother's whore ass. My cock isn't flat.

I guess I hit the nail on the head when I spoke about the West's obsession with anti-intellectualism and psuedo-intelligence. No wonder your empire is crumbling.

>>728773041
Further more, the moment decent countries commercialize fusion energy, the entire middle east will lose any form of relevance.

>>728773038
If your imaginery sky daddy would have been allmighty, dont you think he would have been able to word the fucking book in a way, metaphors would be not necassary along with different interpretations?
What a fucking dumbass your god has to be if the only word he gives to humans is written in a way where something could be misunderstood?

Fucking idiots!

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>>728773038
your religion already detroyed europe once,
we won't let it happen again.
stay in the shitholes you call home, marry a child because the sexuality of a real woman intimidates you, deny all of modern science because allah knows better and keeping smashing your heads in because of different interpretations of a phantasy fiction book.

aloha snackbar.

>>728773041
>What gives you the impression our economies are failing?
Trump has been saying it for the last 8 years and he is not a liar. He knows business.

>>728769446
your prophet was a goatfucker and your religion is dirt

>>728773250
[Ta Ha 20:53] "He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.

>flat like a carpet

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>>728773424
So you dont have an impression because youre not able to think for yourself!
The fact youre a muslim should have already given that away but i didnt think you would be so retarded that you take the sayings of one man and think its the truth..
oh wait...lol!

>>728773487
>flat like a carpet
*spread like a carpet
FTFY

Westerners aren't understanding this metaphor thing are they. When did they get so uneducated?

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>>728773684
spread like a carpet. alright.

carpets are flat aren't they?

>>728773618
>sayings of one man and think its the truth..
Are you saying Trump is a liar. Lol. You're a cuck.

>>728773684
Read this
>>728773378
Why is your retarded prophet only talking in metaphors? Was he autisitic? Mentally challenged in some way?
Sorry to hear about that, Ahmed.

>>728773684
and thats exactly why the muslim world won't ever find peace, even if the west didn't exist.

because you keep knitpickling about words in a phantasy fiction book.

now go look into the sky, and the birds who fly, not because of aerodynamics, but because allah holds them in the sky.

"Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah . Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe." Surah 16:79

>>728773778
Not saying he is a liar.
Just one man cant know everything
and it was in his interest to argue that way.

Also not a cuck cause not 'murican.

So do you have any arguments too or just the quran?

>>728773744
Carpets take on whatever shape they cover. They do not have a shape when spread out.

It mentions mountains and channels. Flat was not the intended adjective here, obviously. Far and wide was the image being conveyed.

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Allah also said that semen comes from between your backbones and your rib (so somewhere in the area of your lungs) and not from the prostate and balls.

"So let man observe from what he was created. He was created from a fluid, ejected, Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs." Surah 86:5-7

>>728773859
So much this!
If you cant take it word for word, then why even bother in the first place?

Maybe because its the only vision people from shitholes can get.
There is no chance of living a happy life with education, healthcare, proper housing, jobs,...

The best opportunity is you go for dem 72 virgins as a martyr.. what a fucking shame.

>>728773994
okay so here anotherone for you >>728774045

also: allah said the stars are missiles too shoot at devils. quote following.

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>>728774145
>allah said the stars are missiles too shoot at devils
you're not telling me they arent, are you?!

>>728770696
>Only lies come out of islamic mouths.


fixed it for you.

>>728769446
>anti-intellectualism
>fascism
>rape culture
yeah, we should it replace with an even more ant-intellectualist, hilariously stupid, facist ideology that makes rape somewhat legal (just force the woman to marry her afterwards. if she refuses, stone her)
>mass shootings
you gotta be kidding me

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>>728774145
sorry it wasn'T allah himself it was Abu Qatada who said:

on the basis of Surah 67:5:

"The creation of these stars is for three purposes and they are: 1) as decoration for the nearest heaven 2) as missiles to hit the devils, and 3) as signs to guide travellers"

pew pew allahs stars missiles, when are they going to hit me because im an evil infidel devil?

>>728773859
You're the ones nitpicking.
We don't use the Quran as a science book. It's not supposed to contain formulas and solutions, just philosophical ideologies.

It does not say that aerodynamics plays no role. But rather that all which holds it up, aerodynamics, air/wind resistance, density, gravity, etc was created by God, Allah. You are putting words into the Quran.

First show the realisation of peace.
Prohibition of slavery.
And First read the koran.

>>728774497
So you basically admit that the quran is just bullshit?

>>728769446
sorry, we are not stupid enough

>>728769446
lack of religion in the west.
its how we got to be so superior to the rest of the world.

>>728774682
this guy knows

>>728774497
you see this will just keep on going.
no matter what bullshit i can quote for you from the quran you will keep reinterpreting and finding excuses why its true.

check out this one: where is the philosopohical idea behind it?

"So let man observe from what he was created. He was created from a fluid, ejected, Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs." Surah 86:5-7

it says semen comes from the area of your lungs. not from your prostate and balls.

please interpret fopr me the highly sophisticated and philosophical idea behind saying that semen comes from the area of your lungs?

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>>728774617
>So you basically admit that the quran is just bullshit?
LOL. Not bullshit. Clearly your poor comprehension skills are showing.

Would you quote Forest Gump's "life is like a box of chocolates" metaphor in a Biology class? Of course not. That doesn't make the lesson of the movie quote bullshit.

>>728774799
>please interpret fopr me the highly sophisticated and philosophical idea behind saying that semen comes from the area of your lungs?

i am excited for this lol
sandnigger will have to think hard about this one.. make some new interpretations and metaphors.

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also muhammad was said to have peed like a girl.
and if you dont follow the example of muhammad and squat down while beeing your dont follow muhammads example and you are a bad muslim.

>>728775052
*while peeing

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>>728774886
Are you comparing the quran to forrest gump?

Because the writing of Forrest Gump doesnt allow for so many interpreations and metaphors.

Also life is kinda like a box of chocolates whilst life certainly isnt held together by allah like aerodynamics... are you even slightly ok?

>>728774799
You are saying semen. The Quran does not say semen.

Once again, putting your own words into the Quran.

Adam was not created from semen.

>>728775257
well then what else is the meaning of "He was created from a fluid, ejected,[...]"

the only option would be the slime from your lungs,
i dont know of any other fluid that is ejected from your body.
does he mean spit, slime, or semen?
enlighten me.

>>728775224
>Are you comparing the quran to forrest gump?
No, I'm trying to explain the difference between a metaphor in a book and a science fact in a book.

You won't quote the metaphors of self help books in a science lab, so why do you quote the Quran in a science lab?

>>728775362
maybe diarrhea?

>>728775257
>It doesnt say SEMEN!
>It says SPERM!

sandniggers... dumb as shit since 1444

>>728772267
>fuck your dead sandnigger
No thanks rather not cheers for the offer

>>728775362
and... do you cough or spit into your child-brides uterus?

If the quran is the word of god as mohammed said, it MUST be scientifically accurate. if it is not, it is not the word of god and therefore mohammed lied and you can kick the whole quran in the trash bin.
/thread

>>728775407
Well you failed... miserably
Not surprised though since you already failed in life aswell.

>>728775498
again... this!
Same goes for other religions aswell
But today islam is on the scaffold.

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hadith says satan stays in your nose over night.

Sahih Bukhari 3295:
"The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and blowing out thrice, because satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

>>728775362
http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=2602

Here is an explanation on what it is referring to, but that is beside the point. The point of the verse is not the source of semen, it's to reflect on the simplicity of a lifeform that we are and that we will return to mere organic matter one day.

Read the whole verse and see.

>>728775434
Sperm is not a fluid... lol.

So much for "muh superior western intelligence". Classic shit-for-brains psuedo-intellectual white fuck.

>>728775498
The whole point of metaphors are lost on autistic persons like yourself. Shame.

>>728769446
having a shitload of motivation, doesn't make you the right religion or even a good religion. islam is the most stupid, the most horrific and the most harmful of all religions.
if you believe in it, you are a retard. period.
now stop making fucking "we will dominate" - "we will rule eventually"- "we are superior" - "we are right"- threads. the only reason why islam spread is violence and thats all you fuckers can do. just fuck off now

>>728770258
Bruh

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY9MbPqYJe4&t=801s

>>728776095
>having a shitload of motivation, doesn't make you the right religion
this

>>728776073
what the fuck are you babbling about metaphors in this context?
quran 9:73
"O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination."
quran 9:123
"O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous."
quran 8:59
"And let not those who disbelieve think they will escape. Indeed, they will not cause failure [to Allah ]."
quran 61:4
"Indeed, Allah loves those who fight in His cause in a row as though they are a [single] structure joined firmly."
quran 47:35
"So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds."

where are the fucking metaphors? quran is as concrete as it gets. islam is not very good at persuading people. so maybe you should try another strategy fucktard

>>728769446
shitepastathread/faggot

>>728775819
so he went from a statement about where the ejected fluid that creates men comes from to "it's to reflect on the simplicity of a lifeform that we are and that we will return to mere organic matter one day."

topic missed, sit down, grade F.

the bible was revealed in latin.
the early christians didn't even know what they were reading out and praying because they< didn'T speak latin.
before the first translations, the church authority could always redefine the meaning of bible passages. it was a time of incredible violence.

your religious authorities do the exact same thing, and they dont even do it well. and thats why the muslim world won't ever find peace. pecause your different religious authirties, your schools of thought, can't even agree on what is realy written in the quran.

im not a practicing christian, just wanted to show you the parallels.

>>728776768
why are fucking wasting time and energy in debating a muslim about obvious lies. he already knows, he is lying

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>>728776095
SJW love that shit

An entire mosque service in Toronto was caught praying for the death of all Jews and in the same week Jewish centers received death threats all around Ontario

Of course the CBC ran articles blaming white people and Trump supporters

All of the SJW's pay no mind to the Toronto mosque and cringe post about wishing for the safety of all Jews. The same Feminists/SJW's that are usually vocally supportive of Hamas.

fucking memes

>>728776594
THIS thank you. the quran is noit metaphorical at all. it is meant to be a report on what muhammad did.

with this in mind take a look at the following quotes again:
>>728772300
>>728772812
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>>728773487
>>728774045
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>>728776880
because i love my enemy.

>>728776594
Where did I say the whole book was full of metaphors?

I just said the verses you chose were not a akin to a science textbook.

The Quran has stories, metaphors, analogies, instructions, teachings and motivations.

It's the same reason "chicken soup for the soul" is not your prescribed textbook for Physics 101.


Stop being a typical dumbfuck westerner.

>>728769446
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.

>>728776929
you are right. but how is talking about sjw's an answer to what i wrote? i was addressing the muslims. the leftists are another topic.
>SJW love that shit
love what?

i'm not even saging this thread, because it shows so nice how stupid muslims are

>>728776768
>topic missed, sit down, grade F.
Quote for me the very next line please. I want you to see how stupid you are.

Here:So let man observe from what he was created.
He was created from a fluid, ejected,
Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.
Indeed, Allah , to return him [to life], is Able.

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>>728777138
they love hearing about Islam being dominant, while claiming to be anti-religion while they canter about how terrible Christianity is

>>728777048
you mean the same dumbfuck westernes that brought you:

-automobiles
-electricity
-electronics
-the internet
-modern pharmacie
-rocket propelled granades
-ak47's
-plastic explosives
-the letterpress
-turn your crude oil into gasoline, jet fuel, etc
.... want me to keep on going?

>>728777048
there are proven mistakes in the quran. most of the quran are concrete verses. and they are horrible and fucking stupid. and muslims follow it, which leads to what saudi-arabia, iran, terrorists and so on does.
if there is just one mistake in the quran, then mohammed lied and you can tell, because god is not a fucking retarded redneck with an iq of 60, as the quran implies

>>728777379
nah bruh that was all muslims

>we wuz scientists

>>728777254
what does the next line change about the fact that allah said that the ejected fluid which creates men in from place x?

and to return someone to life is the complete opposite of returning to mere organic matter one day, i.e. dieing.

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>>728769446
> We are going to dominate Europe and America whether you like it or not.

You are going to get infected by feminism and nu-male gender standards, and get eaten alive from the inside out. I cannot wait to watch it.

Degeneracy is going to win in the end. Just you wait. There's no escaping it, it just feels too good.

>>728777379
>you mean the same dumbfuck westernes that brought you:
After conquesting the people that gave them
>Al-Gebra
>Al-Chemy
>Al-Gorithms
and much more...

Besides, I was referring to modern westerners. You had nothing to do with those, just like you keep insisting you had nothing to do with slavery and the Crusades.

>>728777319
ok yes. but that is actually not a problem at all, because the more they get to know muslims, the more they will reject it. islam will never be accepted by the west, because of high IQ

>>728777629
yes indeed you where a great people before islam ruined evrything.

>>728777621
The next line shows the meaning of the verse.
The semantics of the fluid which was being refered to can be explained here:

http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=2602

>>728770696

>One man can reproduce with many women. The other way around doesn't make any sense.

??

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>>728777733
They were also Muslim when studying those things.. maybe you should pick up a history book.

>>728777667
bro they don't need to kill us when they can breed faster than us

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>>728769446
We know what you're up to:
Immigrating and then birthing large families; blowing shit up; supporting hamas; appealing to the naive left wing hippies.
You think you can take over? Think again.
The conservatives are on the rise.
Ave Maria! Deus vult!

>>728777786
One woman cannot marry multiple men for any purpose. She can only get pregnant and reproduce with one male.

Males can impregnate and reproduce with multiple females. In times of catastrope such as war, famine, plague, natural disaster, it makes sense to allow male polygamy.

>>728778058
>The conservatives are on the rise.
Along with stupidity. The two go hand in hand.

Either way, mission accomplished.

>>728778083
what's up with the male escort shit, did Islam have a problem with bitches cheating all the time?

Is that why Islam is 20% about keeping your bitch in check lmao

>don't you fucking say nuns

>>728777905
>>728777629
and what did they contribute? arabic numbers and some medicine. thats fucking it. if you really think, these things are achievements, you should give the highest respect to the west. but thats not, what your bullshit is about. you just want to present yourselves as the better people, when you are clearly not. and making a fool out of yourselves, by doing so, doesn't really make me want to join your shitty club.

>>728778015
the more muslims are living in the west, the more the leftists see, what they are really about. it just will never come to this

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>>728769446

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7HmkC4_a3g

>>728778295
maybe that's right, I hear Sweden is starting to slow down

>>728778215
>arabic numbers and some medicine. thats fucking it.
A certain group of crusading barbarians conquered them before they could reach any new frontiers...

Don't be bitching when we do the same to you and mock you 400 years from now.

>>728778215
>arabic numbers and some medicine
>if you really think, these things are achievements, you should give the highest respect to the west.
>but thats not, what your bullshit is about.
best analysis of these threads ever

>>728778083

>In times of catastrope such as war, famine, plague, natural disaster, it makes sense to allow male polygamy

no fucking shit it's allowed your country is a shithole now I understand it however we good here

>>728769446
>anti-science
Yeah maybe...
>Islam will fix it
EEEFUCK YA MEAN BOI

>>728778416
>A certain group of crusading barbarians conquered them before they could reach any new frontiers
very cute. muslims where the ones conquering other countries barbarically. europe defended itself. learn to history, moutbreather
>Don't be bitching when we do the same to you and mock you 400 years from now.
you can't, even if you want to, because of low IQ

>>728778519
>it's allowed your country is a shithole
Thanks to western aggression. That's why Allah made it lawful.

If it were not for that, we might have gone the way of the native Americans or the countless other poor saps you barbarians genocided.

>>728778397
they closed their borders two years ago

Although I am not a Muslim, I like OP.
At least their religion knows how to keep their bitches in line, they hate faggots and kikes, and they are not afraid to die for what they believe in, unlike all the homos who hang out here and post dick and cuck threads.

>>728778606
>very cute. muslims where the ones conquering other countries barbarically. europe defended itself.
>Travelled to holy land to fight offensive war against Muslims
>Calls it defense

This is why everyone hates the white male/

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muslims are liars. mohammed was a liar. they are too stupid to achieve something, so they do it with lies and war.

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>>728778779
>>Travelled to holy land to fight offensive war against Muslims
after fucking being surrounded by muslims first, idiot. they conquered turkey and spain. europe fought back and you are fucking still butthurt about it. get a fucking life

Muslims hate the joo's....Shouldn't we be on their side.
And debating where semen comes from...? That's some pure straight up homosexual faggotry right there.

>>728778941
Europe was in the dark ages while the Muslims were working out calculus, libraries were burnt down during the crusades for fear of knowledge

>>728778941
this

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>>728778758
imagine an entire country under a religious theocracy with the mentality of the Wesboro baptist church

is it still appealing?

>>728777905
they may been muslim but the state wasnt ruled by islam you retarded piece of trash

>>728778941
False image by lying infidel.

Comparing ALL battles of Muslim empires, regardless of era or motivation, with one series of battles known as the Crusades to appear "peaceful" is just pathetic and deceitful.

Many of those battles were empire expansion for strategic reasons. If we used the same criteria on the battles of the west, the entire world map would be covered in 100x more blips for centuries including present.

>PS
>hey conquered turkey and spain
We did it once, we can do it again. Just stay ignorant.

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>>728779124
>Shouldn't we be on their side.
no, because jews are great contributors of western culture, they ARE westerners: einstein, freud, marx, jesus, kafka, bob dylan, stanley kubrick and so on
the rothschilds are not "THE JEWS", you fucking retard

Op let me ask you. Why do you think Islam is true?

Muslim Scientology would be a kick ass religion....I'd better get busy and gather my followers!

>>728778151
We can never outrun stupidity, even if you run left or right. Stupid is a persistent thing. Even the great philosophers acknowledge this.

Anyway, AVE MARIA! DEUS VULT!

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>>728779343
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuullshit

we see your taqiyyah very clearly you filthy roach.

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long live stalin

>>728779199
okay then...
lets take this narritive and now tell me why are you going to make the same mistakes somebody else already made? are you resistent to knowledge and wisdom?
or is your drive to bullshit and rape just that little stronger, sandneger?

>>728779514
fuck big government

and fuck socialist assholes who think their practice doesn't always lead to big government

>>728779484
>gets blasted with facts
>hurr durr muh taqiyya

I'm not even Shia.

>>728779199
libraries were burnt down by fucking muslims. library of alexandria for example. what library was burnt down by europeans you fucking retard? why do you think, we call it the DARK ages? because there literature of that time handed down, because muslims destroyed everything, so they can claim achievements for themselves. all they did is fight and conquer

>>728779679
indeed you're not even human.

>>728779372
Jew detected. Probably a trap as well. Why don't you go and let the Rothschilds molest your little boy pussy.
Oh, and you forget Henry Kissinger. Back in 1975 he fucking stabbed the syrians in the back with a secret treaty with Egypt. Oldfags here. I was alive back then and remember this.
This is why we have the shitstick today because of his vile jew sorcery.
The Nazis made tremendous achievements in science and technology after they burned all the heb books and fired up the ovens.
Freud? Yeah, modern psychiatry is working out great. Even Jung got sick of Freud's Jew shit, so fuck off with Jews contributing to society, faggot.

>>728779343
>regardless of era or motivation
so what WAS the motivation? it was just fucking conquering and spreading islam by sword
>Many of those battles were empire expansion for strategic reasons.
HAHAHA, so? strategy for what?
>Crusades to appear "peaceful"
read again retard
>If we used the same criteria on the battles of the west
do it right now
>We did it once, we can do it again
lol, no you can't. you want it so bad, as your statement shows, but you are too fucking stupid

>anti-science

kek

>>728779971
oh yes, i guess that hit your spot
>The Nazis made tremendous achievements in science and technology after they burned all the heb books and fired up the ovens.
what the fuck are you talking about. just read some history already. read about german science and arts of the 18th, 19th and early 20th century. why do muslims don't feel ashamed being so stupid?

>>728779971
>Yeah, modern psychiatry is working out great
modern psychiatry is not psychoanalytic, it's behaviourist and naturalist. you don't even know the fucking basics of science. god damn it you muslims are retarded

>>728779987
>so what WAS the motivation? it was just fucking conquering and spreading islam by sword
Empire expansion, trade routes... British Empire sound familiar?

>HAHAHA, so? strategy for what?
See above.

>do it right now
Most of the continent of Africa was conquered and Christianized bitch. That should be on the map if under "Christian battles"...

>>728780326
I'm not Muslim you stupid faggot.
Who built America's space program...? Werner von Braun a captured Nazi scientist. Operation Paperclip where General Leslie Groves rounded up all the Nazi scientists and imported close to 9000 of them to the US where the Feds gave them jobs and leeched knowledge from their superior Aryan brains.

>>728780427
>Empire expansion
thats exactly what i was saying.
>British Empire sound familiar?
at least the west feels ashamed about it
>Africa was conquered
and the brits still pay for it. you say, it's a good thing conquering. the west doesn't say that.
>Christianized
not by sword. missionaries preached and people got convinced, it is a good ideology. that doesn't work with islam, because it's stupid, hatefull and xenophobic - so all you can do is spreading islam by sword
>That should be on the map if under "Christian battles"
it wasn't christian, it was secular, retard. your muslim IQ is showing again. start asking yourself if it is true, what you say, before you say it. don't twist and turn everything, so it speaks for you. it makes you look stupid. especially when it's so obvious

>>728780747
>Werner von Braun a captured Nazi scientist.
what does that have to do with the jews?
i know, you are too stupid to comprehend text. i didn't say, the nazis had no achievements. i said, the germans had achievements before, so it has nothing to do with burning jewish books dumbfuck

>>728780747
>The Nazis made tremendous achievements in science and technology after they burned all the heb books
>read about german science and arts of the 18th, 19th and early 20th century.
>Werner von Braun
epic logical fallacy
>I'm not Muslim you stupid faggot.
yes you are and it shows

>>728781171
Well, Hitler hated the Jews and respected the muslims, so that's good enough for me....Faggot. Go back to the dick rate threads...

>>728781422
>Well, Hitler hated the Jews and respected the muslims, so that's good enough for me
AHAHAHAHA, fuck yeah, every word you say, proves you are stupid

>>728781020
>at least the west feels ashamed about it
No, only leftists do and if the current rhetoric is anything to go by, you hate that they make you ashamed about it.

>and the brits still pay for it. you say, it's a good thing conquering. the west doesn't say that.
They still profit from strategic economic holdings 10x over.

>not by sword. missionaries preached and people got convinced, it is a good ideology.
AHAHAHAAHHAAHH
You literally preached to them the "peace and love of muh Jesus" and then still made them attend seperate Churches and pick your cotton.
Everything about that conversion was hostile and a farce.

>it wasn't christian, it was secular, retard.
Exactly my point you retard. Many of the blips on the map were labelled as "Muslim Conquest Battles", when in reality, they were done for the same reasons as the Birtish or French.

Example, the blip over Austria marks the Battle of Vienna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna#Prelude
>"Capturing the city of Vienna had long been a strategic aspiration of the Ottoman Empire, because of its interlocking control over Danubian (Black Sea to Western Europe) southern Europe and the overland (Eastern Mediterranean to Germany) trade routes."


Moral of the story: Westerners are lying pieces of shit who love to deceive and play the victim card.

>>728781643
His facts beat your namecalling.

>>728781643
Hitler did nothing wrong...And btw I'm a Lutheran. Ever hear of the Balfour treaty that Germany was forced to sign? Probably not, since you seem to know little about history, except for the quick peeks you take on wikipedia....Faggot.

>>728781796
>No, only leftists do and if the current rhetoric is anything to go by, you hate that they make you ashamed about it.
wrong. every party, except maybe for the extremist nazis (who have almost no supporters) say, that this was wrong and are for paying repairments for this even today and even if they personally had nothing to do with it
>They still profit from strategic economic holdings 10x over.
they profit from their own achievments in science, technology and so on. don't tell me, africa or africans have something to do with it.
>made them attend seperate Churches and pick your cotton.
the west were the first who abolished slavery. still slavery in africa and muslims countries to this date, just sayin
>You literally preached to them the "peace and love of muh Jesus" and then still made them attend seperate Churches and pick your cotton.
what has that to do with spreadingn christianity not by sword, but by word, insight and persuasion.
>Everything about that conversion was hostile and a farce.
some priests talking about jesus is hostile? and you want to prove it by saying, that 1% of americans had slaves? there goes another logical fallacy of "superior" muslims
>Exactly my point you retard. Many of the blips on the map were labelled as "Muslim Conquest Battles", when in reality, they were done for the same reasons as the Birtish or French.
thats just wrong. look in the quran. it says to exactly do this and to subjugate christians, jews and everything else, that differs from islam

>>728781796
>the blip over Austria marks the Battle of Vienna.
muslims trying to conquer the west wasn't just a blip
>>"Capturing the city of Vienna had long been a strategic aspiration of the Ottoman Empire, because of its interlocking control over Danubian (Black Sea to Western Europe) southern Europe and the overland (Eastern Mediterranean to Germany) trade routes."
for spreading islam and subjugating other nations. what is your fucking point?
>Westerners are lying pieces of shit who love to deceive and play the victim card.
"we turn everything around, what they say about us, so they have to believe us". where did i say, the westerners present themselves as victims? that is a muslim thing still today. the opposite is the case. the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys. a thing, muslims never ever did once and are literally not able to do so

>>728781851
what facts? thats just a statement without reason. and not a very clear one

>>728781908
what the fuck has that do to, what we discussed?

>>728781851
>namecalling
there is your passive-aggressive victim card again, muslim

>>728781796
>>at least the west feels ashamed about it
>No, only leftists do and if the current rhetoric is anything to go by, you hate that they make you ashamed about it.
where is the repairment and self-accusation for muslim aggression? oh the muslims aggression is going on to this day you say? and no self-criticism whatsoever? interesting

>>728781796
>Example, the blip over Austria marks the Battle of Vienna.
so you want to depict it, as just one small period of time, that muslims wanted to conquer europe? are you retarded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7y2LRcf4kc

>>728782680
>for spreading islam and subjugating other nations. what is your fucking point?
Like whites spread Christianity and subjugated blacks after conquering Africa for trade route advantages? My point is that your dumb ass doesn't want to accept established historical records proving the primary motivation for the Ottoman expansion was the same as countless other Western empire expansions, yet only one side was included on that deceitful map.

Why do we give different names to things when whites do it? Oh, white privilege, I forgot.


> the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys.
Except when when it comes to accepting blame for the destruction and instigation in the ME.

>>728781851
>His facts beat your namecalling.
so you think by just stating, that you are right, makes you being right about something? thats must be the superior muslim science you were talking about

>>728783071
>where is the repairment and self-accusation for muslim aggression?
There is none. We are the polar opposite of leftists... didn't you read the OP?

Your right clearly supports and encourages past exploits and is fed up with the "white guilt".

>But every country that is majorly muslim is a shithole.

>And the majority of Muslims that move to a non muslim country converts to atheism within a few generations.

>>728783195
So now it's a numbers game instead of a motive game. You filthy pigs love to flip and change your arguments to play poor old victim, eh?

>>728783307
>so you think by just stating, that you are right
Hitler DID have an alliance with the Muslims and DID hate the Jews. This is common knowledge.

>>728783245
>Like whites spread Christianity
3rd time: not by sword
>subjugated blacks after conquering Africa for trade route advantages?
again: every party, except maybe for the extremist nazis (who have almost no supporters) say, that this was wrong and are for paying repairments for this even today and even if they personally had nothing to do with it. the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys. a thing, muslims never ever did once and are literally not able to do so
>motivation for the Ottoman expansion
the motivation is called "quran". my point is, that you still hold beliefs in an ideology that preaches hate, xenophobia, sexism and war and not feel ashamed about it. in contrary, you say it's "good" and "the best" and morally right. you are threatening us even today with this very thread you retard and go on about how good it is.
>Why do we give different names to things when whites do it?
read the statement above
>Except when when it comes to accepting blame for the destruction and instigation in the ME.
what the fuck are you talking about. i read about this every fucking day. written by europeans themselves. where are the muslims doing the same thing about their past and fucking PRESENT. you still fucking go on with this even today and even say it's a fucking good thing.

>>728783428
>There is none. We are the polar opposite of leftists... didn't you read the OP?
"look at us! we are assholes! but we are morally right"
find the logic coherency in these statements muslim

>>728783463
>>And the majority of Muslims that move to a non muslim country converts to atheism within a few generations.
what are you talking about. they don't. they believe this shit today and they act like it. they fucking want to fight us because of that. just read OP's post

>>728782803
We should support Islam instead of the filthy Jews.

>>728778083
>One woman cannot marry multiple men for any purpose. She can only get pregnant and reproduce with one male.

The black community would like a word with you.

>>728783594
>So now it's a numbers game instead of a motive game.
no. 4th time: every party, except maybe for the extremist nazis (who have almost no supporters) say, that this was wrong and are for paying repairments for this even today and even if they personally had nothing to do with it. the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys. a thing, muslims never ever did once and are literally not able to do so
>Hitler DID have an alliance with the Muslims and DID hate the Jews. This is common knowledge.
that is not really helping your point in being morally right.

muslims accuse the west of conquering by the british empire as being a bad thing and at the same time want to conquer the west and say it's a good thing. if you think conquering other nations is a good thing, you should give some respect to the british, don't you think?

>>728783971
The only Muslims I know are either first or second generation immigrants.
And I have never met a muslim without a middle eastern accent.

>>728783764
>3rd time: not by sword
Oh, right. By intimidation. "Worship Christ and we'll treat you slightly better than those other slaves"

Besides, the whole Islam was spread by the sword is a myth. There was no convert or die as is evident by the fact that Jews, Christians and others were living in Muslim empires for centuries.
If they were there for centuries up until modern times, the whole "convert or die" claim falls apart.

>the motivation is called "quran".
Lol, there is no command to capture trade routes in the Quran.

>>728783861
>"look at us! we are assholes! but we are morally right"
If the growing right wants to not feel "white guilt" over past empires, then why do we have to feel "Muslim guilt" over past empires.

Unless you're coming out as the biggest leftist cuck imaginable...

>>728770258
>us 04/11/17(Tue)08
You wanna be Alpha or you wanna be a nice guy and watch your woman get fucked by all the Alphas.

Russia and Islam are bro Tiers..Only places where tradition and values are BTFO modern cucked culture of feminine men. Bow to your masters faggots

>>728784415
>"Worship Christ and we'll treat you slightly better than those other slaves"
that never happened. thats muslim thinking. they accepted christianity mostly by preaching through one or two missionaries coming to their town. some of them were killed. that is not a fucking invasion smartass
>There was no convert or die as is evident by the fact that Jews, Christians and others were living in Muslim empires for centuries.
HAHAHA, very funny. read your fucking retarded book:
quran 9:123
"O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness."
quran 2:212
"Beautified for those who disbelieve is the life of this world, and they ridicule those who believe. But those who fear Allah are above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allah gives provision to whom He wills without account."
quran 4:74
"So let those fight in the cause of Allah who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter. And he who fights in the cause of Allah and is killed or achieves victory"
quran 4:95
"Not equal are those believers remaining [at home] - other than the disabled - and the mujahideen, [who strive and fight] in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred the mujahideen through their wealth and their lives over those who remain [behind], by degrees"
quran 9:111
"Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah , so they kill and are killed. "
quran 9:29
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."

>>728784276
>muslims accuse the west of conquering by the british empire as being a bad thing
Nowhere did I say this.
I said you did these things and expect everyone accept it not to judge you for it, yet you are the first ones to judge us over it.

Typical western double standard.

>>728784605
>If the growing right wants to not feel "white guilt" over past empires
the "growing right" as you call it is not at all saying this. you have no fucking idea, what you are talking about. they just hate muslims. the reason for that you can see in the fucking headline of the thread
>leftist cuck
>because they criticise themselves
that alone shows your immoral thinking muslim shitpiece

>>728784743
So did those all those Muslim rulers ignore the Quran when they let millions of non-Muslims live there for centuries?
I guess a fat neckbeard infidel knows the Quran better than actual Muslim leaders and scholars of great empires... sure, that makes sense.
It can't possibly that the dumb western fuck is misquoting and mis-attributing verses... he's a superior white male.

Fucking idiot.

>>728784999
They cry about "white guilt" daily.

>>728773407
>
Europe is faggot and is destroying it self. White man can't breed worth shit. Basic society building unit in Europe is all but gone, talking about marriage you fucking degenerates. You watch your women fuck other men and you are ok with your women not breeding. You guys can't replace your own population because European men are more feminine then they have ever been. Your governments feel embarassed that europe is unable to reproduce the way the needs of the nation and continent are required. Fuck men who cant use their tools.

Your governments bring over muslims because you fucks can't reproduce worth shit.

Seig Heil!

>>728784889
>Nowhere did I say this.
so you say, it's a good thing? and you want to do that for yourself? that makes you a fucking immoral asshole. do you really think god would want such a behaviour? do you still think, your religion is right? then you are even more retarded than i thought. why would a deity want, that people on earth kill and torture each other for him? that is why your religion is so fucking stupid. because it depicts god as a mundane redneck
>expect everyone accept it not to judge you for it
what the fuck are you talking about? we do it all the time
for the 5th time now: the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys. a thing, muslims never ever did once and are literally not able to do so
>Typical western double standard.
no we say, it is wrong, even we did it ourselves. muslims on the other hand go on and say: "it's a good thing". and why? just look at the fucking quran verses i posted.

>>728773454
says the cuck who will watch other men look at the naked body of the woman you're suppose to honor and protect. What a cuck

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>>728769446
>When will you infidels admit that the West needs Islam now more than ever?

Your invisible sky wizard doesn't even exist.

>>728785191
>So did those all those Muslim rulers ignore the Quran when they let millions of non-Muslims live there for centuries?
no, they just subjugated them and made them pay head tax. as commaneded by their redneck god.
>I guess a fat neckbeard infidel knows the Quran better than actual Muslim leaders and scholars of great empires
in fact i do. i read the quran and over and over i noticed, that the muslims i talked to have no idea of the quran. but thats not the whole truth. they know it and just lie about it, because they know it's immoral.
>It can't possibly that the dumb western fuck is misquoting
AHAHAHA, where is the fucking misquote? see? that is what i meant. you just lie and lie and lie to deceive what you think are your enemies. is your god really that stupid, to tell you to lie about him, because it makes him look like a stupid idiot?

>>728785312
>so you say, it's a good thing? and you want to do that for yourself?
Look how well it worked out for you guys. Why are you trying to discourage us from doing something that clearly had positive outcomes for your society?

>the west depicts ITSELF as the bad guys.
When has America blamed itself for destroying Iraq? Never. They still glorify the millions of soldiers who went there under false pretences to kill, rape, destroy and loot.

That is the sick society that we are dealing with.

>>728785380

this this this x1000

Islam isn't any better than Christianity, it's just that the Christians put down their swords a while ago and became police officers instead

all religion as a basis for behaviour needs to stop, now. It should only be used to discuss ansers to philosophical questions.

>>728785191
>mis-attributing verses
haha, so we're at this point again? the verses in the quran are very concrete. i read it in it's entirety. there is no way you can misinterpret these >>728784743 verses. imams over the world say the same things. and muslims fucking act exactly like that all over the world. past and present. just stop lying so poorly about it, it makes you look ridiculous and nobody takes you seriously.

As a German Lutheran, you still have my support...I still don't know why these idiots on this board won't support Islam instead of the joos...
Fucking dick, trap, wwyd, boipucci, blacked, furry and cuck threads..../b used to hate all that shit...Not to mention all the cheese pizza this site used to post and they call your prophet a child molester...? Faggots here even post pics of wives and gf's behind their partners back.
This place and western society has gone to shit.
If only Hitler won....sigh

>>728785566
>no, they just subjugated them and made them pay head tax. as commaneded by their redneck god.
So now the claim has changed from "convert or die" to "okay you can live here as long as you pay your fair share of tax"?
Wiggle wiggle, the claims keep changing. The infidel keeps lying. See how I caught you out?

Much better than being a slave simply because of the colour of your skin. Read the Quran, it also says people living under Islamic rule must be treated well and given protection.

>>728785791
When you're older than 16 and the acne has cleared up you'll understand how the world works, maybe even see the bigger picture.

Then you'll know the true worth of Islam as an ideological system and lifestyle.

Or you'll die blind.

>>728785976
>there is no way you can misinterpret
You can if you chop and change words or post incomplete sentences.
It's what you lying filth are best at: deceiving.

>>728785566
>got BTFO by himself
>IQ of a baked potato

>>728770696
go find a work faggot

>>728785769
>Why are you trying to discourage us from doing something that clearly had positive outcomes for your society?
the difference and the whole point of this thread and it's discussion is: that is not our ideology and nobody would ever say, that it is a morally good thing or even that GOD fucking says it's a fucking good thing.
>When has America blamed itself for destroying Iraq? Never.
every. fucking. day. seems like you don't read books or newspapers at all. there is your muslim lifestyle. being stupid as way of life
>They still glorify the millions of soldiers who went there under false pretences to kill, rape, destroy and loot.
what are you fucking talking about.
besides: muslims fucking wanted the usa to overthrow saddam hussein. they cheered at them. few days later, they call it a christian invasion, if it's comfortable to use it against us for anything. you arabs are fucking backwards people. same thing with syria. they cry for help over and over. and when obama said, he didn't want to help syria, they call it an anti-muslim conspiracy again. you can't please the muslims, no matter, what you do. all they want is damage the west and present themselves as victims. so why is that muslim man? mad about something? maybe envy, because you suck?

>>728786130
>So now the claim has changed from "convert or die" to "okay you can live here as long as you pay your fair share of tax"?
both things are in your stupid book. just read it already. and muslims do both things.
>Much better than being a slave simply because of the colour of your skin.
again: the western world were the first to abolish slavery and not even 1% of americans had slaves. most black slaves are owned by other black people even fucking today. the west fights these things. the quran fucking says it's a normal thing to have slaves.

>>728786526
You argue like a 5 year old. The US is a terrorism sponsor and will fall worse than Iraq while the rest of the world laughs at you.

Arabs are backward? You don't even wipe your ass you filthy animal. You lick your own shit off your hands worse than an ape.

>>728786526
>muslims fucking wanted the usa to overthrow saddam hussein. they cheered at them.
https://www.wired.com/2011/01/toppled-how-the-press-spun-the-saddam-statue-moment/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firdos_Square_statue_destruction#Conflicting_Reports

PsyOps. That's why I don't believe a word your lying media says.

>>728779705
yeah because history is never written by the victor right ?

>>728786292
>You can if you chop and change words or post incomplete sentences.
i didn't. i read the quran it in it's entirety. if you say, you can't state single verses in the quran to tell anything about it (which is philologically nonsense), that would mean, you can't criticise the quran EVER, without citing it's whole text. thats ridiculous. again: imams over the world say the same things. and muslims fucking act exactly like that all over the world. past and present.

>>728786771
>The US is a terrorism sponsor
source?
>and will fall worse than Iraq while the rest of the world laughs at you.
we'll see about that. doesn't really seem like it, does it.
>You don't even wipe your ass you filthy animal. You lick your own shit off your hands worse than an ape.
>You argue like a 5 year old.
literally just one sentence apart

>>728786526
American here. WTF are you talking about when you say we blame ourselves every day for destroying Iraq? I read the news every day and have never have seen that. Possible fucking Jew detected.

>>728786809
were they crying for help against assad? they did and still do. if the us did it though, you would call it a christian invasion destabilizing your country. same with saddam hussein

>>728786845
>yeah because history is never written by the victor right ?
western historians are traditionally anti-western. we question and criticise ourselves on a daily basis. a thing, muslims didn't do even once in their whole history. all they do is fight on every fucking level, to present themselves as superior (when they are cleary not)

>>728786734
>both things are in your stupid book. just read it already. and muslims do both things.
Yes, but only one was followed for centuries... Why? clearly your interpretation is flawed and you need to investigate why, not me.

>>728786734
>again: the western world were the first to abolish slavery and not even 1% of americans had slaves
Oh congratulations. You want a cookie? Centuries of destruction, millions of slaves abroad, centuries of oppression and genocide, but hey, the Americans eventually stopped it in 1850.

>the west fights these things. the quran fucking says it's a normal thing to have slaves.
Of course you do, you got what you needed and it's no use keeping non-whites around now. Just tweal; the world economic system to favour whites and send everyone back. You haven't stopped oppression, you've just transcended to a covert method of it through controlling and dictating the world economic rules.

>>728787114
>I read the news every day and have never have seen that.
lol, no you don't then

>>728786915
>if you say, you can't state single verses in the quran to tell anything about it
You cannot state single verses about any body of writing to tell anything about it. That's not censorship, that's comprehension.
Context is important.

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>>728770696
>We trust science and biology of Allah, not pagan laws that measure revolutions the earth makes around the sun.
Low quality bait confirmed.

Oooh boy i love when people use religion as an excuse :)

ITT op is larping a retard

>>728787434
Prove me wrong then faggot. Post a link of today's news showing the us apologizing, faggot.

>>728774045
Did he use the word semen.
No. Right
It means the ingredient to make a semen is from there you retard

>>728787417
>Yes, but only one was followed for centuries
they always followed both. and you don't seem to know, what interpretation means, if you think, it changes the outcome of the comprehension of the verses above. there is no way, these verses can mean anything different. they are clear and unambigous.
>Centuries of destruction
destroy what
>millions of slaves abroad
their progeny can be happy living in the west. you know, because of the same reasons, arabs want to live in the west so badly.
>centuries of oppression and genocide
and you say that as a muslim without a blink of an eye? it was the west, that abolished slavery, while muslims and blacks have slaves even today. yes, i want the fucking cookie right now
>but hey, the Americans eventually stopped it in 1850.
as the first and only ones. look at africa and arabia today. do it already or stop accusing us for it
>you got what you needed and it's no use keeping non-whites around now.
fucking 1% had slaves and they are sure not the cause of our wealth. we do fine, because we achieve shit. we do science and technological research.
>You haven't stopped oppression, you've just transcended to a covert method of it through controlling and dictating the world economic rules.
what would happen, if we just stopped supporting africa? it will fucking die. face it. you guys are too stupid and/or lazy too achive something. don't blame us because of your envy. we work our asses off and have more than fucking and eating in our lives

>>728787571
>Context is important.
yes it is. and the context cleary support the comprehension of these verses. again, if i have to cite the whole quran, to show you that these verses mean, what they mean, than it wouldn't be very practical, don't you think? and you are too lazy and stupid anyway to read it, if i did.
maybe you should quote the fucking context, to prove me wrong already. protip: you can't
tell me one fucking hypothetical context in which these verses may look better. you can't. they are too specific. but i know, you're just lying about it

bacon

>>728787864
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/opinion/iraq-war-lies-13-years-later.html?_r=0

Op is unfunny the thread

>>728787864
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/2017/04/bush_adviser_tells_inside_story_of_iraq_war

>>728787864
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/26/trump-insults-the-media-but-bush-bullied-and-defanged-it-to-sell-the-iraq-war/

>>728787864
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/381623-iraq-war-anniversary-us-consequences/

>>728787864
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/10/the-trump-doctrine-sounds-suspiciously-like-the-bush-doctrine/?utm_term=.025a15a2c3b1

>>728787864
http://newsclick.in/bushs-legacy-isis-million-dead-iraq

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>>728769446
Why are we not attacking islamic boards and forums /b/??? I've never seen raids theists then a couple of christian sites/ chatrooms. We need to up The Game!

>>728769446
>implying that islam prevents rape culture and mass shootings

fucking lulz

>>728788130
>they always followed both.
Yet you seemed to omit that with clear intention to deceive until I mentioned the centuries of non-Muslim societies in Muslim-ruled empires... But I'm sure it's totally innocent. That doesn't make you biased in the least.

>there is no way, these verses can mean anything different. they are clear and unambigous.
Not really. I'll give you one example:
>9:73
>"O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers..."

The very first line of the chapter explains the context:
>9:1"[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists."
>to those with whom you had made a treaty
>had made
Specific time, specific people.

Clearly context is important, but your anti-intellectual society cannot stand to read and understand. Suit yourself.
>it will fucking die. face it. you guys are too stupid and/or lazy too achive something. don't blame us because of your envy. we work our asses off and have more than fucking and eating in our lives
Worked your asses off looting, oppressing and genociding.

Tell me, if whites are so great and could do it all on their own, why did they need to conquer others? Wouldn't the massive military resources have been better spent building their society with their hard work and brains instead of travelling around the world to learn from and/or abuse others?
Shit just doesn't add up...

>>728789192
>Yet you seemed to omit that with clear intention to deceive until I mentioned the centuries of non-Muslim societies in Muslim-ruled empires
egyptian muslims killing christians on christian holidays a few days ago. just shut the fuck about muslim countries treating other religions well. they have to pay fucking head tax, while in western societies there is freedom of religion. even for an ideology that cleary is against any tolerance
>Specific time, specific people.
cool. and you just ignored all other verses considering this? read here: >>728784743
and here: >>728776594
>Worked your asses off looting, oppressing and genociding.
show me your muslim and black scientists and technicians. and compare them to western/white achievements. good luck
>Tell me, if whites are so great and could do it all on their own, why did they need to conquer others?
they didn't. the could and thatswhy they did. but they sure didn't need muslim or black thought to do so.
>Wouldn't the massive military resources have been better spent building their society with their hard work and brains instead of travelling around the world to learn from and/or abuse others?
we're so great, we can do both

>>728789090
>implying that islam prevents rape culture and mass shootings
Rapists and mass murderers get executed by sword in Islam.

They are protected by MRA and NRA in America...

>>728788970
Haha. The Boston Herald. Libtards. And who controls the majority of news media in the us and world?
Fucking kikes.
Bush was a Jew shill, just like all our past presidents starting with F.D.R.

>>728790134
you fucking retard. this is an article that criticises the west. and now you criticise it as being anti-muslim and pro-jews?

>>728788971
Because /b is now composed of faggots and niggers who have no intelligence.

>>728790185
As gay and retarded as op, who knows, probably samefag

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bumping this epic thread

Why this preference of Islam towards Toyota cars , though?

>>728790525
>9gag

You're insane

>>728790048
>egyptian muslims killing christians on christian holidays a few days ago. just shut the fuck about muslim countries treating other religions well.
Oh yeah, now we ignore the flawed map of "crusades vs muslim conquest battles" (which I was disproving) and bring up something from current political affairs.
Flip, change, wiggle your way out of it. That's the way the infidels deceive.

>while in western societies there is freedom of religion.
You are comparing a democracy with an Islamic Caliphate. Where is the freedom of religion in the Vatican?

>cool. and you just ignored all other verses considering this?
Didn't ignore, there simply isn't enough time to educate you and show how your copy/paste "research" is stupid. I gave you a clear example to invalidate your claim about how there is "simply no other way to interpret the verses".

Continued...

Allah please guive me dubs

>>728790938
Allah please, dubs

>>728790330
What the fuck are you talking about you tard?

>>728769446
I am a cuckold. Fuck you guys. The white race would never benefit by Islam.

>>728769446
obvious bait is obvious