>literally the mexico of the developed world Explain

>>728527506
>equality is a good thing

Damnit OP don't be a retard. They obviously lack the education to explain themselves, why even bother

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>>728527506
>tfw united states of poland

American here
Honestly our country is just a filthy shit hole of corruption and greed mixed with a growing amount of dirty Americanized niggerbees with one metric fuck ton of handguns sprinkled on top. Basically we are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet and we are raised to practically think the rest of the world doesn't exist. When our feeble and evil propaganda fuelled organized crime machine falls apart we dearly hope our European superiors will help us learn how to behave properly instead of leaving us to be turned into the united States of Mexico

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>>728527681
>equality is a good thing

But to some extent it is, you retard.
The 30 years before Reagan came in and fucked society in the ass were the wealthiest and most socially advanced the US middle class had known in its entire history.
In the last 30 years, the US GDP doubled, but 80% of the American population either stagnated or got poorer. Massive inequalities are an issue, no matter where you come from.

It's not like I give a fuck though, it's not my country going down the drain because you fucks can't properly organize your society.

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>>728528242
People who fervently worship Reaganomics fall under one of two categories:

1) They were part of the wealthy elite who either got filthy rich or just richer than before under this economic doctrine influenced by a Hungarian Jew, or

2) They are the white niggers of America who idolized an actor who intentionally fucked them over and got away with it simply because 'muh Christianity' + scaring the stupid masses with stories of the 'crazy commie takeover' if you don't take Ronald's Alzheimers-infested cock in the ass.

>>728527506

Capitalism at its finest

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>>728527506
17.3% poverty rate and global quality of life of countries like Poland or Greece, holy shit

>>728527506
Lets think about something.

Theres these people in a room. A normal man, a normal woman, a jihadist, a very smart man, and a lumbering 7 foot retard with 2 knives glued to his hands.

The man and the woman talk about how to make the room a better place. The jihadist screams about how evil everyone else is, and when asked how to make the room better, spits in your face and asks you why you think its your room and not -his- room. The very smart man stands in the corner very slowly pulling the best furniture into his corner. Eventually he plans to make it so the other must interact with him to sit or do anything meaningful.

The lumbering retard keeps slashing with his knife hands til the smart man stops moving furniture, the jihadist stops being an asshole, and the normal man and woman leave him alone in his corner and stops trying to get him to not shit on the floor.

Basically, the retard runs the room, and everyone else just needs to learn to deal with it, or leave

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>>728529466
>The very smart man stands in the corner very slowly pulling the best furniture into his corner. Eventually he plans to make it so the other must interact with him to sit or do anything meaningful.

So, basically, by his own right, that guy grabs for himself stuff that belonged to everyone else to be shared and enjoyed, then invite them over to the furniture he hijacked and made his own.
Sounds like a good metaphor for what's happening in the US.

Careful there OP, you're gonna be called a communist by amerifats

>>728527506

Not American, but I can explain.

Corporate Senate/Congress.

When businessmen run the country and suck it dry of funds, in the pretence it is to make America more safer, then yeah their own people deserve it.

Reagan started the downfall quicker, and even caused Islamic Extremism to hit our shores in the west.

Thanks Ron!

>>728532290
Nice story. It's all bullshit but nice story.

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>>728532598
>It's all bullshit

JFK was the last good president


America went downhill from there, it was at that point the country was purchased.

>>728529901
I think the 7 foot retard with knives glued to his hands is also a good analogy

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>>728532751
>JFK
>good

>>728532290
I checked the "source" of the image.
https://youtu.be/3L8uZeoTqzw
This guy is complaining about being "forced" into having fucking documents.

>>728532701
It's so widely known to be bullshit even Snopes have picked up on it. Go back to sucking on Trump's tower

>>728531712
It wasn't on the pretense of security though, but economic growth.
Which was as equally a fallacy, as the US GDP was steadily increasing (and still is) and most people were working and living good lives, but the disconnected greedy top just wanted more for them, as they almost always do.

That's literally how you break the whole system, because as inequalities rises, wealth doesn't circulate through the pipes anymore, consumption slows down, and the market economy crumbles.
The 2007 crisis should've been a warning for Americans, but they don't seem to give a fuck, and, well, it's their own problem.
I'm just glad I don't live there, even though I like the country and its people.

>>728532290
I'm not going to lose the time to debunk that piece of retarded shit.
I'm just going to mention that studies and polls systematically shows that Scandinavians are happy to pay those taxes (because taxation obviously is the main topic of that libertarianist wanabe-pamphlet).

Nobody truly likes to pay taxes ("IT'S MY MONEY"), but Europeans are aware of what they get in exchange, and they like it.
And they have reasons to, as shown in OP's pic.

Keep being buttmad tho. It's always entertaining.

>>728533044
>I can't argue agains your points so I'll use insults

>>728533082
>Scandinavians are happy
They're medicated to be, that's the only reason.

>>728532290
>>728532701
>>728532852
>>728533100
>>728533169
Found the deluded libertarianism herald.
Enjoy your stay.

>>728533216
to
>>728533100
How about you actually try to use arguments?

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>>728533100
>I can't argue agains your points so I'll use insults

>>728533169
>Scandinavians are happy
>They're medicated to be, that's the only reason.

>>728533100
>I can't argue agains your points so I'll just throw more retardation in the bucket just in case people take the bait

>60% white
wow i can't imagine why america has so many trash people

>>728533169
Just stop, buddy. You're being ridiculous.

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>all these futile attempts at damagecontrol

>>728533100
Not sure if you even know what Snopes is, let alone facts. I'm not doing your research for you, go Google Nissan or whatever his name is and literally the first things that comes up is a link that goes into massive depth about how he's talking shite.

>>728533494
>google it
How about you do that and post it?
Oh right, you made it up.

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>>728533333
Checked

>>728533591
http://www.snopes.com/denmark-socialism-brutal-meme/
If you reply to this quickly you obviously didn't read it in full. Do some learning today, the outside world isn't as scary as you think.

>>728533402
I have yet to hear anyone constructivly try to prove me wrong.

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>>728532290
>>728527506
I'm sorry, I can't hear your inept rabble from that place with actual statistics about the real world.
Yours seems like a comfy fantasy bubble to live within, tho. Hope you like it.

Could we just ignore the libertarian retard and talk about the actual issue at hand?

>>728533814
not him
http://lemmingreport.blogspot.com/2009/09/jew-run-snopes-no-longer-valid.html

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>>728527506

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>>728533911
>http://lemmingreport.blogspot.com/2009/09/jew-run-snopes-no-longer-valid.html

>people read shit like this and think they can poltics and economics now, go to the local bar and proceed rambling about their drunk nonsense

Subhuman.

>>728533911
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/

Also follow the links at the bottom of the page if you can be bothered to read more than 1 paragraph.

>>728533829
Your pic is a well known made-up fallacy and have been systematically debunked in the past everytime it's been posted.

If anything, you're just losing any shred of credibility you could have had participating in this thread, and despite being so convinced you've seen the Truth, you're only demonstrating how terribly gullible you are, showing that you absolutely don't know what you're talking about and have no regards for the real world, that you try so hard to push through your ideological filter in a ridiculous way, disregarding any actual fact or statistic.

It honestly would be better if you stopped right now and started to reconsider your life and the way you deal with reality.

>>728534228
>>728534135
We can throw links at each other all day, how about you actually try to use your own arguments?
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/who-is-behind-snopes/

>>728534135
>>728534228
>>728533044
>>728533494
>>728533814

Not him but snopes is left leaning af
http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/snopes-com-is-fake-news/

>>728534554
There's no "argument" to be had when confronted to a shitfest of erroneous data.
You should be the one actually checking out the reality of those data before presenting it, not us.
Yeah, it's some work and takes a lot of time to parse data, I know, I've done it before. Which is why I'm not losing my time for a gullible moron presenting me an obvious piece of baseless propaganda.

You obviously have no clue of what you're talking about and how things work in Europe.
Just stop. It's for your own good.

>>728534771
Nobody gives a fuck about the political orientation, facts and actual data are what matters here.
That's a notion you don't seem to understand, for obvious reasons: you're not looking for answers, you're just looking to provide something that goes your way.

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>>728534778
>You obviously have no clue of what you're talking about and how things work in Europe.

>>728534915
>facts and actual data
>snopes

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>>728527506
Disregarding the clueless libertarian wanabe polluting the thread, how comes people in the US can't add 1 and 1 and realize they've been willingly giving away their socioeconomic balance for decades?

>>728535234
I'm not talking about citing newspapers, I'm talking about parsing actual statistical sources, you dimwit.
Jesus, I swear you're retarded and disgustingly narrowminded.

>>728535361
He doesn't care, he's just blindly swallowing whatever bullshit comes his way as long as it comforts his certitudes.
Kinda reminds me of creationists tbh.

Just ignore him.

>>728535361
I read the "article", they either agree with the picture or say they "couldn't find any sources" to prove it wrong.

>>728534135
So which part of the Snopes article is factually wrong? I checked the suicide bit myself and your little picture was already wrong there.

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>>728527506
I can give a historical and social explanation.
Historical: Colonists from England lived in autonomity and a few decided to wrench power from England with propaganda after British taxes on basic goods (at significantly lower rates than in England). These people became the founding fathers and the initial power holders were the aristocratic until Andrew Jackson emphasized how the working man produced stability in the country, setting a precedent against the wealthy and educated. This stance has lasted in the country since, causing anti-scientific and anti-secular sentiment still seen today. As wealth became available to the non-aristocratic and not from family fortunes, the "American Dream" of making it from nothing lead to the derision of those who could not make it like other entrepreneurs and set the grounds for criticism of the poor and those who asked for hand outs. Couple that with the effective propaganda making everyone hate and fear a strong central government and the common people consistently go against the social laws that would allow for available healthcare, higher education and sustainable welfare for those in need.

The large corporations shove endless pools of money lobbying to prevent restrictive laws against them, letting them off the hook for massive problems like environmental negligence, outsourcing and foreign slavery, oligopolies that hike up prices in medicine, internet, and general consumer goods while the government doesn't listen to the people since they have no financial power. The large corporations continue to screw over the people with massive pay cuts for CEOs at the expense of worker layoffs and wage cuts reducing the available jobs and decreasing quality of life as the gap between the rich and the poor increases.

Oh and all the tax money is for military that isn't needed considering the US military budget being more than the total budget of the next 12 militaries combined, of which most of them are allies.

>>728535557
did you check this retarded wall of text sources?
of course you didn't, there are none, therefore it is bullshit
>what is burden of proof

>>728535974
>there are none
http://manipulism.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/MikkelClairNissen/videos

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>>728535557
>I read the "article", they either agree with the picture
The article is actually dismissing the content of the meme, line after line.
I mean, it's even the whole reason the article exists at all. It's literally the topic of the whole article.

>or say they "couldn't find any sources" to prove it wrong.
No they didn't. From the article:
>That blog didn’t cite any sources for the claims made in the meme
They're talking about the blog lacking sources, not their own paper.
Do you even read? Or are you just lying around spewing bullshit?

Even more incriminating for your fallacious claim, the article is literally littered with direct or undirect sources from various national or international organisms.
They did their research, you didn't. Period.

You're either a shit-tier troll, or have a very special case of clinical bad faith.
Or maybe you're just plain old retarded.
Either way, the more you post, the more you sound like you've received a botched brain surgery in a Thai slum.

>>728536238
>quickmeme.com
Like your criticism is valid

>>728535234
>Tries to be cute
>Ends up going for as hominem

>>728536225
>gets asked for source for a specific list of unsupported claims
>links to vids of a lonely faggot who makes vaguely related unsupported claims

you're retarded son

>>728536340
>hurr durr your pic comes from a random image bank so I'm free not to adress your logical arguments, because I can't anyway considering how full of shit I am
>hurr durr I'm such a newfag I don't even realize the pic was saved from 4chan anyway
Just kill yourself buddy.

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>>728536412
>the black book of communism alleges that communism has killed 94 million people since 1917
>in just 5 years capitalism has killed 100 million people
It's funny how they refuse to take into account how the "capitalist deaths" come from stupid people breeding more than they can feed and the communist deaths were systematic killings.

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>>728536340
So, that's how it is, you're unable to face your own bullshit?
Color me surprised. Or maybe not.

>>728536858
>stupid people breeding more than they can feed
>they can feed
The world at large could easly feed every human alive, it's just not profitable.

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>>728536225

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>>728537004
Yes, if their mindless and excessive breeding was tolerated by people who think before they have 8 fucking children.

>>728537311
do you know anything about the evolution of demographics in the last two centuries ?
because it doesn't seem you do

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>>728527506
Well, Poland isn't the shithole some people in the US easily believe it is, so it's not that terrible to be honest.
The US are still quite on par with European countries, albeit not the most advanced ones.

I do agree though that it's not the eden people think it is, especially Americans themselves.

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>>728537439
i know enought to understand that if people cannot feed their 8 children but still have more they kinda deserve what's coming to them

>>728537311
You don't seem to understand how demographics work, to be honest.
Yes, Africa has tremendous birth rates right now.
So was Europe and the US when they experienced their own social and industrial revolutions.

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>>728536412
death by direct action is objectively worse than death through inaction.
nice try juden.

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I live in the Netherlands and I must say it's true what is shown in the pictures. People here are indeed happy and there are a number of reasons. First our history is pretty great. Yea we are part of the colonization of the eastern countries, but we also made big long-term steps to make it fairer and equal. We have a very small country which gives that village feel, but with city possibilities. In politics we just act like Sweden and try to be in the middle. And I can go-on like this. We dutch people like to complain a lot, just like me, but that's just because we are bored. Inside we are pretty happy

>>728537680
you previous post was enough, you didn't have to further my point by shitposting once again

>>728537869
>death by direct action is objectively worse than death through inaction.
If you refuse to give someone first aid and they die because of it that's killing in my book.

>>728537870
>we just act like Sweden
How does the muslim cock feel?

>>728538051
How about you actually argue constructively?
Oh, you can't? What a let down.

>>728537146
>...to End the American Way of Life
Yes. And they succeeded.

>>728537870
I think it has more to do with the ratio of saunas to people.

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>>728537652
Are you telling me you can have sex with 14 and 15 yo in most of Europe?

>>728538290
Even though it's popular, there aren't *that* many saunas in Sweden, it's more a Finnish/Baltic/Russian thing at core.

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>>728538051
Let me tell you about the muslims. It's so easy to be afraid of the unknown. 60 years back we got a lot of turkish people to help after the war. They could take a simple income, a house, a safe place to live in peace, a mixture of people to build your own social environment. Yes it was hard the first years but now we all accepted the turkish people (not everywhere, but most places).

Ok muslims are a little bit harder to deal with. That's because the young men have a bit more aggression and proud feeling for their country that they don't really want to be part of the netherlands. They group up and hang in the streets, cause commotion. But fuck all that shit, the media pushed the group into that corner. Each person can take their own changes and if you really fuck up, then we have a good prison system. I like all people, i just hope they see that they can be part Dutch and feel the same.

>>728538299
Depends on your age
age of consent doesn't mean its legal for adults over 18 to have sex with 14yo kids

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>>728538299
>you can have sex
They'd have to agree to it so you couldn't.
And unlike Ameriflaps, we actually persecute rapists.

everyone in America is really stupid and it shows.

like people here can do math and give you break downs of baseball teams or raise children in horrible conditions somehow, but no one has any fucking common sense.

education is crowded and a joke here and the government doesn't give a crap about it, it's crazy.

>>728537993
well good thing your book is just your book retard.

>>728538412
>age of consent doesn't mean its legal for adults over 18 to have sex with 14yo kids
Huh, in Europe, yes it does.

We don't have that puritanical and retarded kind of age-gap laws over here. You're either legally old enough to have sex, or you're not, period.
Though in most countries you can't if you have authority over him/her (ie teacher/parent), but courts usually won't prosecute unless it's an actual case of abuse.
The laws in Europe are actually trying to protect people, not fuck them over, and they take reality into account.

>>728538475
Are you literally retarded? The age of consent is precisely that, the age at which you can consent to sex.

>>728534621

Do you actually believe all this non-sense? You must have a very shallow world/political view.

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>>728537652
>>728538412
>Depends on your age
>age of consent doesn't mean its legal for adults over 18 to have sex with 14yo kids
Except it means exactly that: it's legal in, say, Germany to have sex with a 14yo if you're over 18.
This isn't North America pal.

>>728538752
>We don't have that puritanical and retarded kind of age-gap laws over here.
We kinda do, but it's the other way around, it allows rather than forbids.

For example, Italy:
>The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 to engage in sexual activity with partners who are less than 3 years older. The age of consent rises to 16 if one of the participants has some kind of influence on the other (e.g. teacher, tutor, adoptive parent, etc.).

Which makes more sense than the repressive age-gap laws you'll find in north america.
But what would you expect from a country deeming public breastfeeding to be an outrage, and Janet Jackson' nip slip to be worth an inflamed national debate.

Why are we discussing this tho? I thought the topic was about the US being a near-third world country.

>>728537860
It's created artificially in Africa.
They could never have such an extreme population growth without aid from first world countries thanks to their MUH STARVING AFRICAN CHILDREN DONATE NOW FIGHT WORLD HUNGER

>>728527506
We spend all of our money on the war machine that keeps all of the rest of the world from speaking Russian or burka durka durka...

You're welcome!

>>728539670
It's not created artificially, they just haven't gone through their demographic transition yet.
In the 19th century, most European and American families had kids by the half-dozen, even sometimes by the dozen, because some kids dies anyway.
It *is* an issue, but that kind of trend doesn't evolve in a mere decade.

>>728539919
Ah, the good old "that's because we're protecting you" fallacy.
Surprising it didn't emerge sooner. Maybe it's losing traction now that people realize it's bullshit.

It's both sad and alarming how the common american is cut off from global realities.
I guess that's why you're so bad at diplomacy.
>hurr durr look at me missiles, hear me roar

>>728527506
>norway
>good healthcare
pick one.

I'm Norwegian and people believe we have a good healthcare literally because of propaganda. I have been sent home numerous times because it wasn't serious enough. I have incredible pain in my ear and I can't touch it almost. my head is throbbing in pain and I'm dizzy because of it. it's been like this for almost half a year. some days are better than others, but it has always been there. every time I go to the doctor they tell me the same. "drink some water, relax and it will be better soon." and that literally right after I tell them my symptoms. they didn't even check me. they never have. I have gone to the doctor once a month because of it now.

this happened once when I was a baby as well. I was crying all the time and my mother took me to the hospital. "just take him home nad give him some water" they found out later that year that I had an ear infection. and that was after going to a different hospital in an another city because my current doctor at the time didn't feel like checking it properly.

then my father had a problem with his leg when he was a kid. they operated it and he couldn't stand on it, run or anything after the operation. they told him they needed to do an additional operation, but that it wasn't that important. he was 30 when he got it properly fixed. 15 YEARS OF WAITING.

this is socialism everyone. the only way it will work is if they lie to you and everyone you know about the quality of your country. it's also why the Swedish media don't report immigrants doing a crime. it disturbs the Utopian facade of their country. all successful countries do this. I honestly believe that the Swedish government isn't feminist at all. they only say it to make them seem like good guys. it's like how they literally teach children in Norwegian schools that we have the best healthcare in the world. it's all lies

>>728540999
in murica it's much simpler:
have pain in ear for a year
don't go to the doctor as you can't afford it

>>728541721
that's because of your shit wages. Norway have incredibly high wages, so it would be no problem here if we had private hospitals.

>>728527506
ITS THE NIGGERS FAULT