Hey, /b/, what do you guys think the the afterlife is? What do

Nothing

im a scientist working in Canada at the moment and i do a whole lot of sitting around talking about not really anything. this conversation comes up alot between me an my friend Ethan alot and he always insists on the following theory

1. Time is infinite
2. after the inevitable heat death of the universe a quantum collapse will eventually occur creating a new universe
3. eventually after who knows how long an exact replica of your brain before you died will be created and you will regain consciousness , since you were dead it will feel like no time has passed


well i dont know if i agree with him its an interesting theory

>>728310783
Literally nothing happens. You dead.

>>728310783
Exactly the same as before birth. Nothing at all. Just think about it, nigga

>>728310783
There's no afterlife. Don't be a tard.

>>728311241
A copy of you is still not you. You will be dead. Something else, will think it's you.

>>728311241
That's fucking dumb. That means you carry on living in the blink of an eye in some other reality, albeit you're either paralyzed from that accident you vaguely remember or 86 by default.

What happens is nothing. Your ego and body die and something else gains the first person perspective

>>728310783
Reborn in a new lifeform on a random universe/planet

>>728310783
Lots of stuff happens. Not to you, though -- there won't be a YOU for it to happen to. You won't be aware of it, you won't be aware of not being aware; you won't exist at at all.

>>728311711
What about split personalities and shit like that. Could be someone else's personality popping up.

>>728310783
When you die your brain fires pretty much everything it has. This is what some interpet as the afterlife they see, in near-death cases. (Or they're fucking liars, who knows)

And then you're dead. You came from nothing and you go back to nothing. The chemical reactions in your brain cease and that's that.

I'm more interested in before-life.
>You're not there, non-existant
>Then, you're there, and you realise this
Fucks with my head fam

>>728311790
I don't think mental illnesses are metaphysical portals.

Schizophrenics think that.

>>728310783
When I am, death is not. When death is, I am not.

>>728311775
>singles are 3rd world
>dubs are former soviet world
>trips are western world
>quads are born to a rich family

>>728311933
roll

>>728311988
>3rd world mindset
fit in nicely

>>728310783
Respawn.
Im not in any form of Religion, but i cant imagine....nothing after our life.
I mean something has to be

>>728312018
Well there was nothing before you were born as well.
I think you're correct.

>>728311790
DID doesn't exist.

>>728310783
There is absolutely NO reason to think there's something.

If the universe, or existence, is infinite in anyway there must be an afterlife

What form it takes however, I do not know

>>728312248
I think that consciousness is stuck in an endless loop. It is ever present.

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Let go of your ego if you can. You're just part of this universe that think it's a sovereign being, well you are not. What you call YOU is just a form in the universe, that happens to be able to recieve stimuli from the rest of it, for a very short period. When this ends, all that you thought was YOU will fade, memories, emotions, knowing, thinking. But your existence will not, you'll be awareness of emptiness, awareness of form.

>>728312018
if you break "life" down to it's simples it's electochemical reactions in your brain. Those stop and so do you.

>>728312343
This, we will experience an infinite duration of consciouness.

>>728312248
Yes, there is.

>Indoctrination and fear

I think the more interesting question is
>Why am I the only one playing in FPS mode and everyone is an NPC
Phylosophical zombies are cooler than walking dead

>>728312343
>>728312587
Why do you think that ?

>>728311933
kkgg

>>728312330
Why 'must' there be an afterlife?

>>728312707
Everything with a brain or maybe even more primal senses is arguably conscious to some degree. If it moves and interacts with the world.
There is nothing after you die because there was nothing before it either.

There is probably an afterlife. It's mathematically impossible that one would only be aware right now but never before or after this life. And, if one would "reincarnate", one would in essence get destroyed. Upon reincarnation the 'you' would get destroyed. Reincarnation would be the end of us and start of somebody entirely else who wouldn't give to f's about us, even if they'd somehow get their memories of us back...and I find that kind of scenario unlikely to be honest. Since hell is obvious religious bs to keep us in line, the only probable scenario in my mind is that there is an afterlife where people go. Probably another physical universe from which they run this simulation.

>>728312018
Add aliens into the equation. Are we going to get alien puss in another life?

>>728310783

why the fuck does this pic trigger my anxiety

>>728312960
Yeah they have 3 boobs and 4 vaginas

>>728313004
So I can get cucked by 4 guys at once? No thanks.

>>728312422
>let go of your ego
I'm trying to enjoy my life not master the avatar state

>>728310783
Well, our bodies start to rot and disintegrate. Life goes on of course, just not yours.

>>728313004
Pretty hot

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>>728313073
>trying
There's your problem.

>>728310783
Maybe we are simply recycled consciousness. The only reasonable position to be in is Agnostic.


>my ex had two lots of baby teeth, her second set fell out as a teen, shes 26 now on her third set of real teeth. She gave best blowjobs ever. The pic reminded me.

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>>728313191
>Implying life isn't 50% effort

If someone was blind, deaf and could not feel, would they know if they are dead or about to die when the time comes

>>728313341
I think everything living knows when it meets death.

>>728311241

please tell me you are not physicist.

time is not infinite. it only exists as long as space exists. as that is the case there is no such thing as "after the death of the universe".

your ramblings sound more like the whacked out ravings of a drugged up hippy, not a scientist.

>>728313341

>know if they are dead

did you really just ask that question?

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>>728313321
it isn't. Life is life.
Putting effort into something gets you temporary sense of success. Temporary sense of success can lead to temporary happiness.
Put effort in something for the sake of putting effort into it. Not for the reward it might bring.
The reward is just a bonus, but don't cling to it.

>>728313424
Lol no im a marine biologists and hes a phytologist its not like when we are talking about this very seriously anyways XD

also are you sure about there not being anything after the death of the universe? im not positive but im pretty sure many people have talked about some sort of new creation event takeing place , a sort of false vacuum effect

>>728311681
but if the exact brain synapses or whatever that make you as an individual are recreated, then what is the difference? Im no science wrangler, but i'd assume that an exact copy should be possible, at least in theory.

>>728312422
While part of me hope that something like this is actually the case, I'm not convinced that consciousness is anything more than the weirdest evolutionary trait that nature could throw at us.

>>728312880
> mathematically impossible

nigger you're gonna need to show your work.

>>728314007
That would mean that what happened during that persons life, would have to replicated down to the smallest detail to get the same person.
They might be the same person in a broad sense, but they would be different through life experience.

>>728313820
this sounds like a really esoteric excuse to collect unemployment.

>>728310783
It's like sleeping

>>728314282
why? it stands to reason that the way your brain is "wired" for lack of a better term would be an end result of those experiences. So a perfect copy of that end result would be you right?

>>728313872

yes. "after" and "before" are descriptors relating to time.

time is linked to space, and if there is no space, there is not time.

therefore you cannot have a time "after" space no longer exists because without space there is no "after"

It will be exactly how it was before you was shot out of your mothers vag... absolute darkness for eternity

>>728314420
That would imply a carbon copy of you as you've experienced life and thus the new version of you couldn't be born naturally, but would have to be made by some sort of technology.
Teleportation would be able to make a new you, but regular life as we understand it wouldn't work like that. Unless time is cyclical and no random changes happen at all.

Life was a computer simulation all along and youve finally woken up, what do?

>>728314438
i think you misunderstood what i said , when the universe experiences heat death time wont stop that whouldent really make any sense now would it?

>>728314541
Fair enough. I was thinking more along the lines of teleportation anyhow, I feel like if the teleporter can create a perfect copy, the i see no dilemma in "dying" every time i use it.

>>728314232
There are many big clues... This world, with its life, is full of impossible coincidences that are highly unlikely for a materialistic universe. The habitable zone et cetera. And then there is the paranormal. Think of paranormal as an adjacent "room" to this world -- our "room". Now, if there was nobody in the adjacent (paranormal) room, no one would "knock" from that room, but "knocking" (paranormal phenomena) does happen. Phoenix Lights, Battle of Los Angeles, Marian apparitions, supernatural magic, and all that point to there being something in that other room, i.e. the other side. I propose that the truth is scientific however.

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>>728310783
if you succeed, you'll be free

if not, you'll be born again on this earth.

Yo heretics, im dead rn and me n mah nigga Jesus Christ wanna tell you believin' in the afterlife is coolio brolio

>>728314753
shit, thanks for the heads up famalam, i'll be in church on sunday.

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>>728314329
witty assumption, did it make you feel any better?
It seems you've misunderstood that one.
You do what you have to do, go to work/study/housework. You don't daydream about how you'd much rather do something else right now, because that's just stupid.
This is the exact opposite of not having goals.

>>728310860
>Nothing
This, because I'm not a dumbass.

im from the next life so i can tell u what it is liek on the otherside. ok so you have to crempie every pussy in space an it feels nice. also every dog you ever had is gay. thank u an god bles

>>728314922
Gob dlez

>>728314689
The only issue with a new you is if you adhere to the notion of souls. How can a new individual have the same soul as the old one.
Personally I would love to have a recording device, that saved everything that constituted me in my brain and If I died, it would respawn me in a new body with the same memories to the exact point of my death.

>>728314848
I wasn't making an assumption, just an observation, but i appreciate you setting me straight nonetheless.

We decompose

>>728311681
Soma in a nutshell

>>728310783
I always try to make up scenarios in my head mainly to comfort myself but any time I do that I'm like "no that's wrong"

It's really hard to make up something about a situation that you know absolutely zero about

Hello children, God here, when you die i put you in a really happy place, trust me. Hope this helped.

>>728314972
yeah, but thats the thing, I think that what's in my head is all there is, so i'm not worried about a soul or anything. That said, knowing my luck, i'd go in the teleporter and turn out to be wrong and just get vaporized

>>728311933
Rollin

>>728315138
Or a fly joins you in there and you turn into Brundle fly.

>>728310783
>What do you anons believe happens when we die?

Why do you think anything happens?

>>728315131
But I want where I am now to be a very happy place, why are you so mean to me?

>>728310783
My best guess is nothing. If it isn't nothing, I can't wait to find out. People who follow religion just mindlessly follow rules set in place by someone else long ago (which were in an attempt to explain the chaotic world in which we live, or to make a quick buck.)

>>728315248
Satan here, god is a meanie and i dont live in heaven no more, what a fag

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Something has to percieve a world or its just eternity or nonexperience which is nothing more than a blink of an eye. The next thing that exists won't be (You) in a sense but everything is you because nothing is separate from the experience of reality including other individuals despite them thinking they are something other than just nature itself. That's the illusion of self.

>>728315106
Base your scenarios on what you do know and break down your own arguments.

>>728315853
So basically everything in the universe is versions of it, perceiving itself?

>>728316096
Life is The Universe experiencing and observing itself.

>>728311872
bruh
wtf
I have never thought of that

>>728316189
I've always liked this notion, but that is probably because I can't bring myself to be religious and that this idea gives me a sense of belonging in a universe of intricacy that stems from chaos.

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If all beings on this planet were wiped out the thing that brought us here will keep doing so even if the things it creates are different than the ones before it. I see it as never ending creation and destruction with the only two options being extinction or evolve to become a god of some sort, but who knows maybe both options lead to the same thing.

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>>728316709

Respawning sounds fun, but as much as i hate to admit it, i believe there is nothing after death, just like before you were born.
Nothing.
Pretty melodramatic, suits life perfectly though, life isn't all sunshine and rainbows, it's shit at the best of times, fitting the end sucks too,

>>728317122
But the cycle probably begins anew and someone else is born playing the best gfx fps

>>728316900
Kek'd and checked, took me a while to get that

Return to the collective consciousness.

>>728314901
what is nothing?

>>728317613
Can the collective consciousness make my 2d waifu real?

>>728310783
That's an uncomfortable amount of teeth.

>>728317675
Not him but nothing is non- perception. if it can be percieved it can be described and is therefore a thing. The idea of nothing is just that an idea and is not possible to conceive because the universe is the sum total of all things.

>>728317689
You will be greeted by your waifu upon return

>>728310783
Worm - Food.

That is all.

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i dont know about you guys, but i'll be in heaven with my 72 virgins

>>728318022
Enjoy playing magic the gathering and DnD with all of those guys anon.

>>728310783
Each time you die, you are reincarnated as a lesser life form.

Looks like this is your last trip, OP

>>728318216
So you get reincarnated as a muslim, doesn't sound too bad they basically run the show now and criticising them is illegal.

>>728318298
>meanwhile syria is getting assblasted
K son

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>>728310783
Speak with a missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints if you really want to know. (Being serious here.)

My uncle was clinically dead for nearly 8 minutes. He saw nothing. But he said what I already knew. I believe in nothing after death.

>>728319094
Bait

>>728319094
Tell me how they are in any way better equipped than any other religious people to answer this question?
Do they make a habit of temporarily killing people and bringing them back to life to ask what happened?

>>728319094
lol, in a world of nutty religions, you mormons pretty much take the cake.

>>728319182
Did time pass for him? If not it's like I said before nothing is a blink of an eye.

>>728310783
you will awaken in a new from of consciousness without ever realizing you died

>>728310783
Seen from a realistic standpoint i'd say rebirth.

Your body is basically a whole being made out of bacteria and such, working together as one. DNA passed off by your parents and both your surroundings have created the you that you are. And will continue to do so with YOUR kids may you ever get them. This creates a streamlined process adapting your kin to their surroundings, better known as evolution. After death these cells will create new life by other bacteria feeding off your decaying corpse. How conscious you are is up to the organism that the bacteria chose to dip themselves into.

>>728319828
So you consider a transfer of energy a sort of rebirth?

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>>728312791

because there is no "nothing" . The universe is constantly evolving and forming something, you either become dust OR become another conscious being with no memory or "information" about the universe and learn about it by living.

At least that's what I believe.