So you Trumpfags kept telling me I should learn some basic economics,

>>727929611
economics 101: taxation is theft.

Bernienomics BTFO

>>727929611
Republicans don't know shit about economics. They seem to think that if you give rich people MORE money, it will somehow benefit poor people.

Total retardation. This is why republicans campaign on social issues like abortion and guns, so the religious rednecks people will flock to them.

did you not learn part of input costs is tax which limits qty, and then setting high taxes for the consumer to pay draws back qty demanded?
literally always a lose lose

A diversified, more equal distribution of wealth is both moral and better for the economy. In an economy based on buying shit, wouldn't more people at the bottom of the economy having more money to buy pointless shit help the economy? Trumpazees need to learn economics. I agree, OP

>>727930332
>give job creators more money to invest
>more jobs are created

What part of that don't you understand? It's literally so simple

I hope the US collapses because of its own ignorance. Trump is gonna make it happen. He'll make healthcare and a decent education inaccessible.

Let's see how that works out, Burgers.

>>727929611
I got news for you, even people who studied economics(economists) have no fucking clue about how the economy works.

so your guess is as good as mine

>>727930518
Healthcare and education should be accessible only to those who can afford such things. We don't live in a welfare state, unlike you Eurofags.

I've always (>15 years) loved how my uncle pays tons of money for a great car, great house, great yard, etc. He's always said America is the greatest country on earth. Word for word. He's also never left America...

How do you recognize great cars and houses cost money, but not that a great country costs money?? He has wanted to pay zero taxes since way before the tea party made it popular.

You get what you pay for. There is no free lunch. A great country costs something.

>>727930488
Except it doesn't work. This is how I know you're some millennial faggot who doesn't remember the 80s

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>>727929611
300 REPLIES GUARANTEED HERE WE GO

>>727930488
>take away buying power from the buyers
>good for national economy

Are you dumb? They are already printing in history books the failure that is trickle down economics.

>>727930647
Faggot, if you don't educate the masses you end up with an unskilled, stupid labor force.

You have to invest in your future if you want to have a future.

>>727930647
#wow #woah #edge

>>727930856
There are other ways to invest in the future than by giving out handouts paid for by MY tax dollars. I don't give a fuck about "muh healthcare is a right!" You work for that shit, or you're a lazy freeloading cuck.

>>727930812
(((they)))

>>727930856
Basically take away education and you end up with a red state.

>>727930966
HOLY SHIT YOU CALLED HIM EDGY CAPITALIST SCUMS BTFO

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>>727930993
I was talking about education, not healthcare.

If you were educated properly, you would know that.

You lack reading comprehension.

>>727930177
No, that is not Economics 101. Back to class with you, retard.

>>727931153
You're literally retarded. Trump is a multi-billionaire. Sanders makes about $200,000 a year.

>>727930332

Dude, they don't think that.

That's just what they claim will happen, but they don't believe that shit for real. They must laugh at the republikids who spout the gospel and actually believe it too.

>>727930993
Bombing 7 countries simultaneously is fine.

But taking care of your own people:
>MUH TAX LOLLARS

>>727930518
obamacare is still here, democrats owns that one.

>>727930647
We don't live in a welfare state, but we should. This is why Europe is better than we are.

>>727930745
Saved

>>727931221
25% of 200k is just 50k. Don't be greedy Bernie

>>727931153
Trump 2016 tax rate: 0%

>>727930993
What, like investing back into coal and away from renewable clean energy? Investing into the military?

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>>727930993
>My

It's all chance. Someone significantly smarter than you that happened to be born to a lazy ass father with no chance at a decent life could out perform other people but don't have the resources to do it. So rather than build a stronger country you hoard and then talk shit to everyone else because daddy got you what you wanted.

Fuck off faggot.

>>727931304
Self defense is necessary to ensure the preservation of western values. I am fine with my tax dollars going towards self-defense.

>>727931256
This, honestly.

Republicans distract their constituents with shit like gay marriage and who can use what bathroom so they don't know they're being bamboozled

>>727931400
Wrong again. US has the best upward mobility of any country on Earth. If you don't succeed, you're a lazy cuck.

>>727930345
>yes goy, focus on half the equation, all that matters is that the government is STEALING your money, job, and future to give bribe immigrants, refugees, women, and mentally ill sex deviants into voting democrat.
>let's take some economic policy pointers from the right
>austerity during a recession is better than spending
>but blame Democrats for the slow recovery
>we also need to deregulate the financial sector, its killing business
>the same thing that created the reckless lending leading into the 2008 housing bubble imbroglio
>tax cuts for the rich will trickle down to the poor huddling in the storm drains
>despite this being completely unfounded in fact

How retarded do you have to be to vote Republican without making six figures?

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>>727930177
WRONG.

Economics does not cover the feelings of faggots or niggers. Build your own roads and live off the grid if your care is primarily about THEFT, which I'm sure you as a visitor of 4chan often does, of money who's intention should(because we know politicians skim heavily off this pork) be to pay for civil liberties.

Government restrictions on companies make it harder for smaller companies to expand, the more companies out on the field, the more jobs there are, the more competition there is, the more money circulates through the rich and poor, the more consumers get better service or products.

My father is a Puerto rican small business owner and cannot expand because it would be too expensive to hire more workers due to paying for medical insurance.

The glass ceiling does not come from racism, or companies, it comes from the Government thinking it would be better to make it harder for companies to grow so they don't "harm the poor class" when the reality is that with less restrictions and more competition, it will be easier for minorities to skyrocket out of the lower class.

Moreover, more than 40% of the top 1% are Jewish, and people go in and out of the top 1% all the time, you don't have to be a millionaire to be part of the top 1%

>>727929611

I get into arguments all the time about the free market with right-wingers who wave around their "creative" interpretations of Adam Smith (whose work they haven't actually read).

>>727931384
lol where is the proof?

>>727931486
Name 1 war the US was involved in in the past 50 years that was fought in the name of self defense

Face it, the Department of Defense should be called the Department of Unchecked Aggression and Civillian Drone Strikes

>>727931674
Like all those coal miners you want to bail out?

>>727931860
Why don't you explain how bombing potential terrorists ISN'T self defense?

>>727931384
you think if he didn't pay taxes, IRS wouldn't be knocking on his door. stop being a retard

>>727931674
If you remove public education, suddenly that upward mobility disappears.

How will I pull myself up from my bootstraps if my parents can't afford to send me to middle school??

>>727931689
Guns and god. And that's about all flyovers care about.

>>727931221
>Sanders is in the top 5% for income.
And he's paying less in taxes than someone who makes $25,000 a year. You're literally fucking retarded.

>>727931936
I'm not sure how what I said has anything to do with subsidies for coal miners.

>>727931860
ehhh what you going to do to stop it? yeah, you are fighting a lost cause. go out and get laid. life too short to worry

>>727932146
Fuck you.

>>727931486
>self-defense
>literally blowing up civilians in the middle east

Have you ever stopped to actually think about why ISIS exists? U.S. military has been shelling civilians in the hopes of killing a terrorist that might be in that area for years, and the people that witness it or lose family/friends are given a reason to go down a radicalized path. By attempting to kill terrorists, we are creating more terrorists

Doesn't sound like a good self-defense strategy if you ask me

>>727929611
You don't need to study economics to realize that everything Bernie said was pure bullshit from the start.

All you need to do is pay attention to what they say, and/or have an IQ above 100 that is not tainted by being a victim of something.

>>727932091
I don't think you understand how any of this works, bud.

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>>727932123
Trump is propping up the deteriorating cancerous coal industry. What are your views on this if you are against free handouts.

>>727930485
But that heavily under stimulates entrepreneurship when the incentive is removing the reward for hard work. Whether it be for an idea that was collaborated, or otherwise, it should never be taken away heavily because somebody else did not think of that persons actions.

The services rendered in order to facilitate those needs should be fairly taxed though, and loopholes that allow companies to diversify their earnings in order to hide it should be promptly closed.

>>727929611
>Where's the part of this field that's supposed to make me not be a Berniefag anymore?

the part where you realized that he CANNOT pay for any of the shit he was promising WITHOUT jacking up taxes so high that businesses leave the states and therefor an economical collapse is caused

>>727931836
Ask Trump

>>727932320
A job saving stimulus package isn't a handout. You still need to work in order to receive benefits. They aren't just giving coal miners free money.

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>>727932091
Wrong.

>>727931975
see
>>727932277

>have too many choices for deodorant
>children become hungry
Econ 101, people.

>>727929611
If you Sanders is the way you've been reading the wrong books

>>727932383
Free universal college tuition would be $60 billion. Trump's proposed defense budget increase is $54 billion. And he's cutting taxes. You can't fucking tell me we can pay for one but not the other.

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>>727932462
nobody needs coal anymore. there are very few coal mining jobs. you are an idiot.

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>mfw a flyover goes on a rant about "MY tax dollars" on his annual $24,000 salary

>>727932233
watch your offensive language, Bernie does not approve of that

>>727930722
>80s
Uh the best time ever nigger

>>727932622
You asked me a question and I answered with logic. Faggot.

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>>727932277
it does if you own stock in weapons manufacturing corps.

>>727931689
They were giving out home loans to people who couldn't afford it during the Clinton administration.
>But trickle down didn't work
Go look at the GDP and unemployment rates after 1983 when Reagan's policies were implemented. Unprecedented recovery growth.

>>727932091
>And he's paying less in taxes than someone who makes $25,000 a year
>paying less in taxes than someone who makes $25,000 a year
>who makes $25,000 a year
>$25,000

~$200,000 is bernies income, multiplied by 13.5% tax is 27,000 a year in taxes

He is paying more in taxes than your example person makes in a year.

You're literally fucking retarded.

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>>727932749
poor logic.
Faggot.

>>727932462
You completely dodged the question by overanalyzing pointless semantics. I take this as you having no amswer.

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>>727932277
Uh, no. That literally has nothing to do with why Daesh exists you CNN tuning faggotboi.

There are a ton of reasons why they exist, and surely America giving permission to drone them down by the masses doesn't hurt, but let's not be a nigger cock loving cuckboi here and call a spade a spade.

ISIS is a radical, extremist religious affiliated hate group that targets both Muslims and Christians just as much as they do Americans. Don't be such a fucking twat you garbage, Jesus tittyfucking Christ

>>727930485
We've redistributed more wealth than any country in history. It has never worked unless, of course, the object is to keep those people dependent on the govt. That has definitely worked. Buy a voter base with other people's money.

>>727932778
i luld but its true

>>727932622
Turn out your lights and don't turn them back on then.
That's what your life is without coal you fucking moron.

>>727932749
Didn't answer the question at all. You swerved to some b.s. debate over what words mean.

>>727931975
Kill 1 """"potential"""" terrorist, 10 more spring up in outrage.

It's like cutting a head off of a Hydra. It is a futile effort that will only create greater tension in the region, and greater hatred towards America.

In the end, you are doing more harm than good.

Especially when you kill 23 civilians (including an 8 year old little girl) AND lose a NAVY seal in the same failed raid.

>>727932817
Tax rate, you stupid fuck. Holy fuck, can you not extrapolate meaning?

>>727932462

Coal. Or "clean coal". Archaic industry which only exists to keep Gomer in work. Re-train, find other work or fucking kys.

>>727929611
>>727929611


LMAO, "I studied economics" still supports the Bern. hahahahahaha

>>727930518
If you consider what we have now decent education you're fooling yourself.

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>>727932945
wrong.

It's all natural gas today.

you fucking moron

>>727932598
If everyone gets a college education then you have millions more people looking for jobs that don't exist anymore. So yea you got go to college for free, how are you now going to get a job so you can pay taxes so others can get a free education?

>>727932426
he don't need to show the world his taxes. you mind showing me yours? what if you end up finding out he does indeed pay taxes, what are you going to upset about next?

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>>727933026
If you kill your enemies they win

>>727932945
>what is nuclear
>what is gas

Are you retarded?

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>>727929611
>letting a trumpfag tell you what to do

I actually have taken a few economics classes. Much of it was valuable and made a lot of sense. The "job creator" thing doesn't, though.

>When the masses build up savings, this takes money out of circulation and is bad for the economy
>When a few people build up huge savings, they are job creators and good for the economy

What kills this is the fact that the more money you have, the easier it is to get even more money. Sure, there are some things a billionaire can do that 1000 people with $1000 can't, but a rich person tends to collect more and more over his life and ends up pulling a lot of it out of circulation for possibly decades.

I work for a mason. We have much more to gain from a hundred people who can afford brick patios than we do from one person who wants a super-fabulous brick patio. Fuck job creators, I need work creators. You create a demand for work by shifting the wealth of the nation to the masses. High minimum wage will help us internally, and our international trade issues will be fixed by educated people selling information and products that other nations lack the education to design.

>>727929611
Number one law of economics: Everybody wants your money.

Number two law of economics: DON'T SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE.

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>>727933120
>jobs that don't exist anymore.
you mean like fast food, coal mining, retail and other low paying, low education level jobs?

>>727933109
Try again retard.
Coal is still the majority of the energy produced nationwide.
It was only on a downtrend because of the bullshit Obama policies and wind subsidies that deflate the true cost of "renewable" energy.

>>727933257
Nuke plants closing left and right.
Gas plants that shutdown every time the price of gas spikes due to commodity traders.
>what is stable base load generation?

Idiot.

>>727933372
People typically go to college so they DONT have to work in those fields.

>>727933026
lol When the Americans lost that guy I keked.

When they started losing them a LOT more in special raids I chuckled in my pants a little .

Trump is literally killing "trained" professionals by the handful and here you are worried about the next terror threat.

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>>727933374
see
>>727932479

>>727932731
>dat economic stagnation

This is how I know you weren't working in the 80s. Reaganomics doesn't work.

>>727930177
Taxation may be theft, but let me know when you find a tax-free place that isn't a lawless shithole or an empty wasteland.

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>>727933374
TIL Obama policies existed in 1910

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>>727933571
exactly

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>>727933557
>Confirmed retarded

Nuke plants operate for so long many politicians want regulations placed in order to cycle out old plants with new ones.

You are literally so far out of the emissions loop you might as well be fucking crank starting your luxury Ford Model T, you god damn neanderthal

>>727933557
Source for any of this? Assuming this is true, which it definately isnt, where are the government bailouts of nuclear and gas

>>727933366
Our international trade issues will not simply be solved by highly educated people. Cuba has the most educated workforce in the world and yet still remains 146th in GDP. This is despite being 82nd in population.

>>727933636
>dat
This is how I know you weren't even born in the 80s. Go back to professor Goldsteins gender studies classroom and cry more.

>>727933727
So if everyone whoever wanted a buisness degree now got a buisness degree because of free college, how many buisness could accommodate the influx of millions of people with buisness degrees? Taxpayers just wasted money on other peoples free college so they could end up flipping burgers anyway.

>>727933120

You make something free the value of it goes down. College will become as valuable as inner city public high school education.

>>727933684
>coal PRODUCTION
>not factoring in the efficiency improvements in the end use
>not realizing that most of the usage dropped off due to the decline in steel production
>totally clueless
Your argument in a nutshell.

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>>727932787

Congressional republicans were salivating to loosen the lending restrictions since the 80s, Bill Clinton was unpopular enough most of his first term that he had to compromise of policy with Newt Gingrich and the house

Background:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://cepr.net/documents/publications/dereg-timeline-2009-07.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiuuMXh24nTAhVW22MKHRgCArwQFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNHvYbTEvdihj5RAloAovdqRYAer9g

>but trickle down worked
>when it didn't have any measurable impact at all
A recent Brookings literature review noted that Martin Feldstein and Doug Elmendorf found in a 1989 analysis “that the 1981 tax cuts had virtually no net impact on economic growth. They find that the strength of the recovery over the 1980s could be ascribed to monetary policy. In particular, they find no evidence that the tax cuts in 1981 stimulated labor supply.”

https://www.aei.org/publication/again-the-1980s-boom-was-about-more-than-just-the-reagan-tax-cuts/

I thought to include a source you couldn't dismiss as biased

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>>727932622
>tfw you download gay porn/interracial porn and Nazi orgy to troll people on an American forum revolving around Japanese culture because you think they're international racist bigots but nobody really care because we have to hide threads containing trap/scat/furry/loli/shota/feet/dickrate/animal abuse and gore every 5 minutes.

>>727933813
Right because the 2-3 nuke plants in the country under construction are replacing all of those shutting down?
Dipshit.
You obviously have no ties to nuclear power.
Move along kiddo.

>>727933239
If you kill schoolchildren, you create enemies.

Was that little 8 year old girl your enemy?

She better have been, because now all her uncles, neighbors, and family friends are your enemies too.

If you manage to kill all of them, your enemies will increase exponentially.

It's like you don't remember the Iraq war.

>>727933934
Uh, more managers of both genders. Operating business that = more jobs, multifaceted application in business scenario.

It's ok not to open your mouth when your brain wants to say something retarded once in a while.

>>727930332
You are missing the point that Republicans don't want to give anybody anything. They want everybody to keep more of what they earned. Why are you so greedy to want what someone else earned?

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Everyone in this thread is a mongoloid donkey.
Here is the only man who can help us

>>727934263
You seem to be under the impression that jobs can be materialized from thin air.

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>>727933048
>can you not extrapolate meaning?
You said he pays less in taxes, not that he has a lower tax rate.

My fault for not 'extrapolating meaning' from what you said in order to understand what you meant to say.

You're literally fucking retarded.

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>>727934160
We need to follow a scorched earth policy and leave no civilian alive.

>>727930812
No they arent. Trickle down economics doesn't exist and it isn't in text books.

>>727932598
huge false equivalency. the defense budget needed to rise, free college does not need to happen.

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>>727934347
You're so fucking wrong like wtf dude dean will be president by 2020 as soon as they impeach Danalda trumpette. You sir is so retarded I can't even formulate a proper response to your ignorance I'm loseing brain cell as we sepeak fucking tru

>>727933994
So you're telling me these economists couldn't attribute anything, either positive or negative, to the center of a president's economic policy?

>>727931052
That's funny. Texas has some of the best schools in the country. Much much better then the shitty Pennsylvania schools I went to.

>>727933927
I never said I was born in the 80s faggot. Doesn't change the fact that trickle down economics doesn't work.

>>727933944
this.

china has had free education for decades and thus their education isnt worth shit in other countries

>>727931486

Jus bellum iustum?

>>727934123
>Son, it's called natural progression

It's like when I was a kid and cell phones were the size of ham radios but now you can sit in the bathroom on your break and jerk off to some sweet Riley Reid.

I know it's hard to understand that they work so efficiently you literally can't get people to make them safe despite nearly ending the eastern world once, but try to keep up to par with how thing actually work these days you limp wristed trolley boi.

Get back to class you corn shucking hillbilly.

>>727933862
This has NOTHING to do with the embargo, right?

>>727931332
Then why do they come to the cancer hospitals in Houston?

>>727929611
Tragedy of the Commons
Plymouth Plantation

Too easy/10 dipshits faget

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>>727933976
>Still doubling down on OBAMAH DID THIS

>>727932908

This anon does speak the truth. However, we also deposed all the strong, (relatively) secular leaders in the ME and gave fucks like ISIS a first class ticket to the top of the food chain in that region.

>>727931689
Trump's tax plan doubles the standard deduction. This will help me and the majority of poor and middle class tremendously.

>>727934337
>earned

Inherited wealth doesn't exist?

Every single rich person on earth FAIRLY earned every dollar?

Don't make me puke.

>>727934733
Yep. I went to school in PA. More schools have closed under Democratic leadership than I can count. At least 10 in the city of Erie are threatening to close now.

>>727934337
That's how you get rich, you sad pathetic poorfag.

>>727934337
Why is the coal industry being bailed out under Trump with my tax dollars?

>>727935076
the dubya administration really dropped the ball on the whole foreign policy thing

HERE OP just for you. btw, I am not a Trumpfag. Just a liberty minded free(er) market guy.
https://mises.org/system/tdf/Henry%20Hazlitt%20Economics%20in%20One%20Lesson.pdf?file=1&type=document

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>>727934675
Wtf does paul Volcker have to do with trump ???

>>727935186
But you're entitled to someone's wealth more than the family member they passed it to?
Get fucked nigger.

>>727934849
This has everything to do with socialist policies based upon dependence on foreign nations. You depend on others for resource endowments, you are subject to their decisions.

>>727934681
Don't take my word for it, apparently Fed reserve interest rate changes and changes to the money supply are what helped boost dollar valuation and encouraged lending (more conventionally than the lending boost in the 90s spurred on by lowering lending standards)

Reagan economic policies also included the ranchero act, which is the origin of today's illegal immigration problem, which helped bring in millions of sub-minimum-wage knuckle-draggers for the benefit of the agro industry). This one might have had a measurable effect on growing the labor pool, to your point

>>727935381
/thread

>>727932817
Ummmm. That's not how you calculate tax liability. Have you ever heard of tax brakets?

>>727929611
I'm confused, is this loli? Or a young girl?
http://www.swingeer.com

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>>727934733
Nice anecdote

>mfw I'm an IQ map and I'm owning some flyover hick from Texas

>>727932908
The USA indirectly created ISIS when they toppled the Hussein regime.

Iraq had a large, well-funded military. One of the largest in the region. If the USA hadn't created such a power vacuum, ISIS would have been squashed between Saddam's thumb and forefinger before they could have ever gained a foothold.

>>727935620
This is cus all the blacks live in red states

>>727935620
>the smartest states vote Democrat

Why am I not surprised??

>>727934581
And we need to start doing it here. Slaughter right-wingers in their beds, butcher their families and burn their houses.

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>>727933557

Nuclear's a completely political issue, though. We've known of tech that's safer and more cost efficient than our civilian reactors since the late 50s. Have stuff now that's eons ahead of that even. Damn hippies just had to get in the way.

>>727935809
Because you're dumb enough to believe some made up graphic with no factual basis behind it?

>>727935620
lol the blue states are home to the dumb motherfuckas in the states. all brainwashed anti America scumbags

>>727935764
>there are no blacks in Chicago and New York

Fucking moron

>>727935620
Lol

How can you possibly think anyone would believe your shitty graphic? Not everyone is as dumb as you are, sport. Seriously.

>>727934883

They don't. They only go to MD Anderson.

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>>727935835
No no no. We need to gas the left. Anyone who voted for Sanders or clinton need to be rounded up and baked

>>727935764
>WE TEXAS WE SMART
>actually no, and here's proof
>T-THATS B-BECAUSE.....

>>727935894
>being this deluded

I'm sure all the geniuses live in Arkansas.

Fuck off, you're too stupid to deserve life

>>727935894
>THAT'S FAKE

take a shot!

>>727935929
I was being a smart ass, but look at IQ by city vs suburb. Hue lowers IQ.

>>727933976
You haven't mentioned anything that implies the coal mining jobs every midwesterner's grandpa misses can come back, though.

>>727935901
>T-THATS B-BECAUSE.....

>>727936059
Took the bait.

>>727935655
2003. Saddam regime fell.
2013. Islamic State declared... in Syria.

A decade of events, just skipped over, so you can claim A caused B.

>>727935901
How eloquent...

Obviously from the colorful, vibrant mind of a Trump supporter.

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>>727933374
>Try again retard.
nope

>>727936120
Huntsville Alabama had the highest per capita number of PhDs in the country until NASA cut funding.
Keep making your factless generalizations though.

>>727936168
Hicks hurt IQ just as bad

>>727935929
Magestic head hangs lowly
Child is slow jamaican
And the IQ caused by dark hue.
Who have we been saving?

But you see, it's not me
Not my ethnicity
In your pen, in your pen
They are jumping
With their bix, and their noods
And their noods, in their hoods
In your pen, in your pen
Dindu nuffin

In your pen, in your pen
Harambe, Harambe, Harambe-eh-eh
What's in your pen
In your pen
Harambe, Harambe, Harambe-eh-eh-eh, oh

Dindu-du-du-du
Dindu-du-du-du
Dindu-du-du-du
Dindu-du-du-du

Another funding fo' dem
Programs is not working
When evidence causes silence
Silverbacks deserve saving

It's the same old meme
Since 1860
In your pen, in your pen
They're still jumping
With their bix, and their noods
And their noods, in their hoods
In your pen, in your pen
Dindu nuffin

In your pen, in your pen
Harambe, Harambe, Harambe-eh-eh
What's in your pen
In your pen
Harambe, Harambe, Harambe-eh-eh-eh, oh

>>727935094
That's great, is Mexico paying for the budgeting offset?

Guess we'll have to wait and see how the legislation pans out, huh? I'm not sweating it though, things seem to end up going just like he predicts

>>727929611
CUT NUGGETS INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
suffocation, no eating
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF I CUT MY HAND, BLEEDING
dunununununununununununununu
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
dunununununununununununununu
CUT NUGGETS INTO PIECES
I'VE REACHED MY LAST RESORT
suffocation, no eating
DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF I CUT MY HAND, BLEEDING
DO YOU EVEN CARE IF BERNIE'S LEADING?
FOR THE LEFT, WOULD IT BE RIGHT?
IF I PHONEBANKED FOR BERN TONIGHT
CHANCES ARE THAT I MIGHT
CHICKEN NUGGETS' TAKING FLIGHT
AND I'M CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE
'CAUSE I'M LOSING MY SIGHT, LOSING MY MIND
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD TELL ME BERNS FINE
LOSING MY SIGHT, LOSING MY MIND
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD TELL ME BERNS FINE
I NEVER REALIZED THESE DONATIONS WERE SPREAD TOO THIN
TILL IT WAS TOO LATE
AND BERNIE COULDN'T WIN
HUNGRY!
MY NUGGETS FLYING!
LOSING MY 3RD CHIN!
IT'S ALL SO FUCKED WHERE DO I BEGIN?
IT ALL STARTED WHEN I LOST MY MONEY
GAVE IT ALL TO A JEW
YOU MUST THINK IT'S FUNNY
SEARCHING TO FIND A SOCIALIST WHO THINKS I'M SPECIAL
FINDING NOTHING BUT SHITPOSTS, NEXT LEVEL
'CAUSE I'M LOSING MY SIGHT, LOSING MY MIND
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD TELL ME BERNS FINE
LOSING MY SIGHT, LOSING MY MIND
WISH SOMEBODY WOULD TELL ME BERNS FINE

>>727930177
Correct good sir

>>727936015
>FAKE FAKE LIBROL SHILL CUCK MAGA FAKE FAKE SHILL NIGGER FAKE!!!!!!!!!

>>727936240
December 2011: the USA officially withdraws from Iraq.

Seems like a pretty clear cause-effect sort of thing going on.

Also
>ISIS
>Islamic State of IRAQ and Syria

You scum sucking mongoloid

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>>727936268
wrong

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>>727929611
Bernie's model is unsustainable because it pays too much out of the state without investing enough into the state. That's not economics, that arithmetic. If there's too many non-productive to productive, the state can't sustain. We're already 19 trillion in. More free stuff wouldn't have helped.

>>727930177
Taxation isn't theft if you're getting something for your money.

Taxation is theft when they're doing things they're not supposed to with the money.

Also saged

>>727935764
actually it's the opposite you inbred

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>>727936579

>>727936374
Literally only because of NASA

Wanna guess how many of those PhD holders were Alabama natives?

>>727933671
Communism has killed more people than any ideology ever

>>727936685
Obama sent home more illegals than any preaident before him. He just wasn't a moron about it and have his orders shot down multiple times by judges.

>>727936837
Want to actually provide facts and not deflect every time someone points out how fucking clueless you are?

>>727936685
>all mothafuckas in blue states is sheep yo

>I don't support trump tho...

Sure kid

>>727936933
those judges were in bed with obama

>>727936837
Why don't you tell us? Citation as evidence, please.

>>727936874
Stfu, dont bring uo communism.

>>727936970

>he countered my last ditch effort, my irrifutible Huntsville defense
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>727936755
>Taxation isn't theft if you're getting something for your money.
this is why we should be tax on our needs.

>>727936970
You said it yourself. After NASA cut funding, all the PhDs went home.

Their intelligence is squandered in Alabama.

Philosopher/YouTuber Stefan Molynuex, 180ed me on my view of government through logic and reason.

>>727934337

Just eliminate the minimum wage, unions, profit sharing for the working class. "The rich" don't want everyone to be rich. Capitalism can only work with different classes.

>>727937098
Not an argument

>>727937103
Yeah I'll just pull up that Wikipedia page detailing the state of origin of every NASA scientist.

Oh wait, that doesn't exist

Tool

>>727931815
>still believes the gospel of the free market
>still sucks trumps cock after the idiocy in the first 100 days

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>>727937196
MUH REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEME

>>727937209
Taxed based on your needs?

Like, if I need more government assistance, I should have higher taxes?

Yeah, tax the poor! They have all the money!

>>727937385
It's what you sound like tbh

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>>727937385
>H-HUNTSVILLE USED TO BE SMART THOUGH!

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>>727937385
MUH HUNTSVILLE

>>727937550
so lets say i'm a 36 year old electrician. I paid my way through trade school, and I have no kids. why should I pay for schools I don't use so your kids can go to public school. i have my own insurance, so why should i have to give up MY hard earned cash for you when you cant support your 3 kids you had at 17, 19 and 20?

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>>727937209
Well that's a thought that needs to be revisited. When "taxes" were first conceptualized, there was no metering technology. The "sin tax" on cigarettes was the best that could be done for a while.

But now in this day and age of "No privacy allowed", it'd be easier to, for example, take my odometer reading to figure out how much I should pay for the "road tax" during my car's yearly registration. Should I pay as much for road as the next guy?

It's a shaky idea but has enough merit to be revisited in 2017.

For now, I like the "tax the money once, upon income" policy. Not every fucking time money exchanges hands for goods or services rendered. It's making more sense to barter at this point to keep Jamal from getting a cut of my labor/effort.

>>727937819
Because when your back gives out when you're 50 the rest of the community will pay for your doctors visits and rehabilitation

>>727936755

The only value this tard has to the company is his "value" as a tax deduction. His "pretend" job.

>>727936874
Communism is not a system humanity can handle at its current level of civilization, if ever. This is a strawman, and I figure you're probably trying to troll me. Gently socializing things when capitalism fails, without blocking private endeavors, will take us as close as our nature allows and desires.

But that's beside the point. You can make a solid argument that taxation is theft, but the alternative is either a lawless shithole or an empty wasteland.

>>727937819

Public education is trying to prevent the world from becoming a bunch of retards.

Public healthcare will literally be cheaper than your insurance. Insurance is the biggest scam right now. Why does USA pay the most in healthcare? Insurance/hospitals are playing games with each other while everyone else gets hurt.

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>>727937869
bretty gud desu. ill have to look into the tax the money once idea....sounds smart

>>727929611
Socialism is actually a great economic system. Just not the one they teach un school.

>>727937929
they shouldn't have to. either i have a nest egg or i go die and and dont strain the system like all these old timers now.

>>727938203
you are retarded and need to kill yourself

>>727931153
Should be paying 39%.

>>727937819

Because my 3 kids (along with the entire child population) won't get as good of an education if you don't help pay for it. Then, in the future, the entire population of the USA will be just a bit dumber.

The future generations won't be able to compete in a global labor marketplace. Companies will hire foreigners with higher aptitude, and it's all just one big downward spiral from there.

Freedom isn't free. If you want your country to be great, it simply cannot happen for free.

>>727938060
>Why does USA pay the most in healthcare?
B/C we have the best in the world. i see folks from Canada paying out of pocket here to avoid the 9 month wait for an MRI back home.

>>727930345
Bump

>>727938305
Ok point taken, but should i have to pay AS MUCH as you do? imo ...no.

>>727938237
You say that like you think trying to have a failsafe for peoples well-being is a bad thing?

The system is so strained right now because baby boomers are a disproportionately populated group compared to the generation that they took care of and the generation taking care of them.

>>727931988
There's a bunch of millionaires that don't pay a dime.

How about no one advocate for the use of violence in the name of economics. People need to understand that government is at its core, force. If you want a free and just society you should have the most restrained government you can. separation of economics and state is the only true economic policy. All others are fundamentally force.

>>727930488
>>727930488
>give job creators more money to invest, they will move their jobs to china so that they can get cheap labor. and hoard more of the money

>>727937819
Think of the implications of taxing only those with children to pay for public school.

Think for 1 second about what this would do to the replacement rate of whites.

>>727932330
>implying the ability to be an entrepenaur is not already fucking by mega corps in virtually every market
Yeah anon I'm sure it's the gubment that's stopping businesses from starting rather than wally world selling every product dirt cheap.

>>727938536
>baby boomers
they need to quit the jobs they are still working, sell 2 or 3 of the homes they own and die TBH

>>727938332
Utter and complete horseshoe. We have the highest drug prices (no price controls) and the insurance companies skim off 20+ per cent for their own profit.

>>727938563
They exploit the loopholes.. All those rich people that avoid paying hundreds of thousands if not millions more do it by following the exact rules in the tax laws.

>>727938534
See>>727938669

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>>727938669
>implications
taxing latino's and blacks more?
>problem

>>727938259
Excellent material analysis.

>>727938714
10 or so years from now thats whats going to happen, and if we come out on the other end in a half-decent state then a lot of these burdens that are being argued right now will probably stop existing.

>>727930647
I love how it's always faggot that grew up in households without scarcity that think people should be denied healthcare because they are poor. You would literally rather people die than pay a bit more in taxes. Such a shitty way to live.

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>>727938757
>highest drug prices
my hard work and research should be free!!!!!

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>>727938950

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>>727934385
there are more majors than management genius. Maybe someone with free college education will discover the cure to your ass cancer one day

>>727938203
Refer to venezuela, once praised by Bernie the fraud

>>727937819
>graduated trade school to get a well paying job
>WHY SHOULD I SUPPORT SCHOOL

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>>727935002
>OBAMAH DID THIS
he did

>>727938973
You act as though the researchers see a fraction of the money that is charged. I have a secret for you: Proletarians are exploited in capitalism.

>>727939100
>Paid his own way

>>727938841
Idiot.

People will stop willfully having children of you tax them for it.

This leaves only the accidents, the unwanted children of mongrels.

What will this do to the future of the white race???

>>727939121
what did the DOW close at today?

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>>727938077
It sounds like you might prefer the "only tax what I buy" idea. Not so much the "only tax my income" idea.

Taxing sales only would have the effect that you want: "I'm being taxed according to what I'm using, when I use it". It gets rid some chances for corruption but it has infrastructure issues. Mike Gravel used to support it. He's an idiot but the idea has potential. I don't know who pioneered it.

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>>727939231
>derp

just continuing the trend started by Obama when he saved us from Bush's terrible recession

>>727939205
>What will this do to the future of the white race
well i have 3 kids and a white wife, a house in Sonoma and take a trip to Tahoe every year so i could give a fuck less

>>727930488
>job creators
debunked propaganda, go fuck yourself retard

>>727939171
So did I. Schools need funding.

>>727930488
>job creators

my fucking sides

>>727930345
try harder OP

I truly don't understand why people worship the state

>>727939134
>Proletarians are exploited in capitalism.
this is true. if you dont like it get gud. there will always be a situation like this. from the dawn of man untill the end it will be like this

>>727930485
You don't realize the distribution of wealth the government would give is everybody making roughly 20k a year not everybody making 60....

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>>727929611
Conservatives are economic idealists, they stop taking classes the second it becomes practical.

>>727939342
You can thank the federal reserve and central banking for our recession issues not just the guy who's in charge of the imaginary money system at the time

>>727938841
Yeah, they end up even more poor and commit even more crime.

>>727939453
>Schools need funding
im not saying they dont. but i should have to pay for some trailer trash scum's 4 kids when i have none. at least not at the same rate. thats theft...i get nothing.

>>727934581
We have to tag them frist. Thats why u play nbn

>>727939515
>can only think in terms of whiny hyperbolic stereotypes

the reason you don't understand shit is because you're fucking stupid

>>727939579
That's debateable. There will always be exploitation, but not necessairly on a human to human basis.

>>727939392
Imagine a tax system is implemented later this year.

Because of it, your 3 children refuse to breed.

Your legacy dies with them, and your land will be overrun with the dirty nignogs you despise so much.

Either that, or your daughter will spawn some bastard half breed and she'll have to ask you for extra money to pay for Tyrone's schooling.

>>727939715
so GIB DEM FREE STUFF?
ayeeee yoooo cracka pay muh tuition
i don't thinks so Ari

>>727937297
just stating facts

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>>727939675
so 3rd grade is when it becomes practical to stop taking classes?

>>727931815
Your father hiring minimum wage employees as long as he doesn't have to pay for health insurance sure would help them move up in the world in an economy where a 40 hour work week at $7 and chang can't even cover their premiums you fucking faggot.

>>727939766
>Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country

Selfish prick.

>>727939794
That is not an argument.

>>727930177
Taxation is the basis of civilization retard

>>727939887
it should in theory slow birth rates of poor shitskins. its like when you stop feeding animals at the park....they look else where

>>727939579
The point of government is to mitigate the harmful effects of human nature.

You're nothing but a lazy moron if you give up just because you can't change things completely.

>>727931975
The same way shooting random black guys in the street because a black guy is likely to mug you isn't self defense you fucking mong.

>>727929611
Trade is an exchange that benefits both parties. Taxation is theft.

>>727940128
how much of MY money are YOU entitled to?

>>727940139
neither was your point, I'm just saying you're a fucking moron for making it. Don't get confused, I'm not arguing with you, just insulting you.

>>727937273
You can get rid of the minimum wage or unions but getting rid of both is fucking stupid.

>>727940235
>The point of government is to mitigate the harmful effects of human nature.
ok pinko.

>>727940314
Enjoy the rat race cuck

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>>727940286
probably not as much as you're entitled to his money, considering most welfare recipients are conservative douchebags just like you

>>727939905
Ever heard of an investment?

Or do you spend all your extra dosh on scratch-off lotto tickets?

Education is an investment in the future well-being of your country. If your country is full of intelligent citizens with excellent critical thinking skills, your nation will go far.

If, however, you refuse to fund education, you end up with the film Idiocracy. A downward spiral of stupidity that ends with us back in the stone age.

>>727940235
The point of the government is to enforce contracts.

>>727940378
>gave up on forming coherent arguments
how pathetic

Norway and Denmark surveyed as the two countries with the highest rate of happiness according to their citizens. Looks like socialism/high taxes = happier people.

>>727940504
>citing Idiocracy
Lmao you lost all credibility if you even had any in the first place

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When did /b/ start hating libertarians ?

>>727940192
Except shit skins will fuck and have kids regardless of the consequences.

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>>727930563
don't be a retard. Of course we do... We just don't care. I used my valuable time becoming rich and browsing /b/

>>727940378
>implying a pinko would even entertain the idea of "hooman nazure" as an argument.

Do you study?

>>727940580
Norway and denmark are also low population racial homogeneous societies.

>>727940505
>enforce contracts
there would be no reason to have contracts if they were just demanding natural human behavior.

Like I said, the point of government is to mitigate human nature, and that is done through contracts, now quit being a pedantic faggot.

>>727940600
when Russian-backed trumpfaggots started shilling hard.

>>727934668
In what fucking world does our defense spending need to INCREASE???? We spend as much as the next few countries combined and outside of nuclear warfare we could likely engage in a 1vsAll scenario right now and win. We are hemorrhaging trillions in the defense industry while our mechanized forces are literally just rusting in warehouses.

You and everyone else that supports further military expansion are fucking nuts.

>>727940600
I don't think most do, just a thread full of that race been outs

>>727940485
I'm not on benefits so take your strawman argument and cram it up your ass

>>727940649
Low population has nothing to do with the percentage of population being happy...

>>727940680
I just jumped into this conversation, but what do you mean by just demanding natural human behavior?
If you have no government who forces people, for example, to accept paper money?
that's one of my examples for governments enforce contracts, and anarcho capitalism will never work.

>>727940722
If you live in a red state, you're more likely to benefit from federal tax spending, regardless of personal benefits.

Quit being so fucking stupid all the time.

>>727940504
can you fucking read? the whole issue was how much should one pay? not should it be funded at all.

>>727940504
Our primary and secondary schools are at the bottom compared to every other 1st world country. We have the best colleges though. Bernie's solution is to make colleges like the high school system.

>>727940485
Inferring all those that oppose your opinion are republican, the world has more views than you think moron

>>727940867
>Looks like socialism/high taxes = happier people.
You might see happier people because socialism is successful in these types of societies, before you flood in low skilled third worlders who only want gibsmedats

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>>727938467
>You're going to shoot yourself
>You've a moment for one drink of something

What drink did you choose, /b/?

>>727929611
the free market will fix it because i believe the free market will fix it

>>727929611
I think the sad part is you're trying to argue economics on 4chan.

>>727940899
I live in Commiefornia
cry more about red state boogie man

>>727940690
>Russian-backed trumpfaggots
as opposed to Saudi backed hillfaggots?

>>727940588
Dude look around. That movie is happening. If you don't realize this, you are part of the problem.

Stupid people are out-breeding smart people at an astounding rate. Simple evolution, my dude

>>727940965
Pretty much what Adam Smith said.... He happens to be right.... the Market will always find a balance(If capitalism exists)

>>727940961
milk

>>727940950
>implying implications of assumed assumptions
calm down dumbass

I assumed he's Conservative (not Republican) because of what he said here>>727940286
>how much of MY money are YOU entitled to?

it's just the kind of short-sighted, greedy bullshit that hypocrite conservatives self-righteously spit at everyone they talk to.

>>727941276
It's happening because people are being flooded into education and getting shitty gender degrees.
Not because people aren't going to school, our schooling has dumbed down completely.

>>727941276
>If you don't realize this, you are part of the problem
>muh though
>muh ultimatum

>>727941351
>dumbass
cant refute? use Ad hominem!

>>727941209
Trump pushed through an arms deal with Saudi Arabia that Obama was blocking.

Trump is already more in bed with the Saudis than Hillary would have been, you'll have to find some other bullshit propaganda to prop up Trump.

>>727941537
>gets BTFO
>pretends he's suddenly developed feelings
you lose, autist

>>727940924
And yet some anons want to defund public education further.

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>>727941351
why don't you move to Sweden, you clearly want to give your cash away. i hear Malmo is nice

>>727941692
>suddenly developed feelings
source?

>>727941740
only cowardly xenophobes think immigration is so easy

if you had any real life experience, you'd know the kind of sacrifices that starting a new life in a foreign country would require.

>>727941586
>huffpo even told me so

>>727941907
huffpo is a news aggregator you absolute retard

>>727941873
did i say it was easy?
NO MOTHER FUCKER..... I DIDN'T
I was just encouraging you to try it

Cruz explained it well during last debate with bernout.

>>727942005
what is sarcasm?

>>727942067
no, you asked HURR DURR WHY NOT?!?!?!

like a big clueless faggot

at least own up to being a big clueless faggot you big clueless faggot

>>727942005
lol he took the bait

>>727938332
No you don't see that shit at fucking all. I work in a hospital and that literally doesn't happen. You are just reiterating a chainmail/facebook tier meme that is completely false.

If a Canadian nerds an MRI for a medical necessity, they go to the ER. Most Americans would do the same. If it's not an emergency in either country, you schedule an appointment for one outpatient.

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>>727942196
>easy
>why dont

>>727942110
it's this thing you're not bothering to communicate, but imply use of retroactively like a tremendous butthurt faggot