I'm a shit alcoholic, go through a bottle of whiskey

smoke weed

>>727867574
Why do you drink OP?

Okay then. Stop it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Tej0297wk

>>727867574
death will find you soon, you'll stop then

don't stop too quick, might get DTs. Taper off over a little while, easier that way

Can't do drugs get tested

>>727867574
You could have started a cool coke habit, but you chose alcohol.
You used to be cool, man.

Be careful of withdraw, that shit is serious with alcohol, but yea, smoke weed everyday Instead.

>>727867574
>I'm a shit alcoholic
>a bottle of whiskey a day

Sound like a pretty good alcoholic to me, i couldn't achieve that amount in one day.

Huff fermented fecies, no drug test can detect it

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>>727867734
for anyone who doesnt know.

>>727867863
Fuck you, I wanted that joke, but you got there first.

I don't get it. It's easy to stop doing something. Just don't do it.

Trying phenibut but I don't feel shit unless it's like 7 grams

seek medical help. they can help with the detox better than those yogi witchdoctors.

wasn't joking

Read a news story lateley. A dutch guy, not that old, requested assisted suicide. He wasnt able to quit drinking, had dozens of attempts. Wanted to stop it right now, rather than going down slowly and painfully.

That creepy story changed my attitude towards drinking.

>>727867912
and the man you call daddy wanted your moms pussy first. Sloppy seconds for you too son.

I used acid to help reprogram my brain and stop drinking and smoking herb, ate half a hit and went to an AA meeting.

>>727867574
I wasn't as much of an alky as you OP but I was drinking a 6 pack of regular beer nightly for about 5 years. Quit cold Turkey when I started having health issues, had no withdrawal. Now I've been drinking Jim Beam straight for almost 2 weeks straight again to help offset my symptoms.

My wife is a nurse. If you are drinking that much hard liquor a night you have to ween yourself off of it or your body could shutdown or you could have really bad withdrawal like the other anon posted. >>727867891
My wife has alky patients sometime that start going through withdrawal in the hospital and they have to give them vodka to sip on.

>>727867574
Cute magpie, I have 3 regulars that wait outside my door for food every day.

I'm military so have to keep it low key and no benzos

Only pussies need one drug to get off another.

>>727868160
I always hook them up with food

Time to call AA buddy. I was where you are 15 years ago. I couldn't do it alone either. If you're willing to do whatever it takes, make the call.

I drank a bottle every day for years then I started getting the shakes at work. You get shakes because booze slows your brain, it gets used to it. Then being sober is to much stimulation for your brain and it causes tremors/shakes. I dunno when I started realizing how bad I was fucking myself up physically it started to freak me out. I don't want liver disease. So I started drinking only on weekends. I'm doing a lot better but now Im thinking im gunna stop completely. I started working out and shit. I still hate my self and my life but... I dunno at least I have some sort of more healthy life to look forward to. Once Im completely off the booze I'm gunna be a big rig driver. Make that middle class income. Save my trucker money and do some traveling. I dunno what to tell ya OP. Your totally fucking your body. You think shit sucks now then you'll have a gun in your mouth when you get kidney failure. I don't know what happens when we die but you might as well take life seriously while you can. You can do it OP.

Yeah I'm struggling

>>727868308
Reminder that AA is a cult and it has a shit success rate.

Heavy drinker from 16-19, worst three years of my life
>going through family trouble
>start drinking alone to get through home life
>went through big bottle of bottom shelf whiskey every few days
>Don't even remember most of that time, just a haze of alcohol weed and depression
>I do know however that during that time I lost my girlfriend, career, education, and self-respect
>couple years ago decide my shitty life wasn't getting any better
>stop drinking
>now that I'm sober realize my friends aren't friends, they're drug buddies
>drop drug buddies
>start repairing familial relationships
>money troubles gone
>Have a beer every once in awhile, but just gives me a headache and makes me sleepy if I try to "get drunk"
>start smoking cigars
>start feeling like my "old self" again, literally smelling things I haven't smelled for years, problem with tremors that I thought was anxiety has disappeared, not addicted to pornography anymore
I don't know if I just started getting better around the time I quit drinking, but I fully believe that they ingredients in that crap I used to drink were really fucking me up, whether it was the alcohol and sugar or some other additive they put in there. Seriously, I used to believe in drinking every morning and night, but now that I'm not drunk or hungover 24/7 it's like I'm not trapped anymore, which is why I drunk in the first place!
So really, the question is whether alcohol helped me get through hard times, or if the hard times were really made worse by it.

>>727868267

They're a smart bird, they'll call right outside my door for food, sometimes they'd wait for more than 30 minutes. I'll always try to feed them.

I take B15 and eat healthy and exercise alot

Hello, anon
I was worse than you are. I would drink at least half gallon of vodka a day if not more. I would drink while getting ready for work, drink on the way in, drink on the clock, on the way home and when I got home.
It was about 3 years straight of at least half gallon a day. And I just quit cold turkey
I'm on my 31st day since my last drink.
I didnt get DTs or any of that Bullshit
Everyone who knew me swore I was going to die. The first 3 days were the only bad part. After that, no hang over, no pain, no depression(from my drinking at least), smooth sailing
I will say medical grade dabs helped get me through. But I limited my dab intake during the initial cold turkey stage.
You can get out, b/rother
If my habit was crushed by pure will power, im sure anyone can do the same

Be strong. Stay safe.

>>727867574
Alcoholic in recovery here anon.
I was going through 4-6 liters of vodka a day.
Took me about 20 hours a day to get through that much, couldn't sleep my body would literally wake me up and I would have to drink more to even get half an hour of sleep. If you do want to stop get to a detox center to help with the DT's and withdrawls then get to some AA meetings. I have been through treatment 8 times in my life at 28 years old and they help but honestly AA is what did it for me.

>>727868620
You're lucky you chose vodka, the dark liquors and pissy beers are full of so much crap I swear it takes longer to detox

>>727868433
Reminder: it works better than anything else out there. Get your facts straight.

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>>727867574

Are you feeding it these top kek

>>727868760
Reminder: No it doesn't. Stop getting your 'facts' from the cult.

switch to beer til you eventually have a day you dont even feel like drinking.
I can do it during the week, but on friday always get a 2 liter bottle of whiskey again and its always completely gone by tuesday.

>>727868160
That's a currawong you dip

Whiskey is my downfall

>>727868907
Ha lucky you I smash that shit no chaser love the burn

>>727867574
couldn't give a fuck about you but looking at that picture now I feel really sad for that poor magpie wish I could help it

>>727867634
/thread

>>727868929

currawongs have yellow eyes and don't have white behind their head you cunt.

>>727869046
same. I just drink straight from the bottle. Doing it now.
The main reason I want to stop is cause when I get drunk I dont feel like going out or doing anything. Also every now and then I feel a pain in my liver area and am sure I am going to die. I wake up and its fine and just keep drinking.

>>727868929
Nah it's a magpie, broke his beak somehow so always sort him out with a feed

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>>727868929

RETARD ALERT

>>727867574
My dad dis that
Today, 10 yrs later he Lost everything.
Family
Wife
Kids (we dont care about him anymore)
Friends
Job (woodworker he cut himself a finger while drunk at work)
Money
Heal
He's on psychatric now

Think about it man.

>>727867574
Yea man I just hit 30 a few months ago. I have been to a few rehabs and meetings. The only thing that has EVER worked was a drug called Vivatrol. It's a huge needle you get in your ass once a month. I was sober for 6 months before I got laid off and lost my Insurance. The shots cost $2k

>>727867574
Keep drinking.

>>727868887
AA is saving my life I don't care if it is a cult I go to 3-5 meetings a week for an hour a day along with working the god damn 12 steps and I do fun shit with sober people from the program who literally will drop whatever they are doing at the time and help your ass do whatever if you call them. Honestly some shit they do is cultish but whatever I don't fucking care, plus it is a great place to meet girls granted they are broken and damaged as fuck girls but they are DTF almost all the time.

>>727867931
Stop jerking off forever, starting now. See how long you last.

>>727869198
The liver has no pain receptors. Your enlarged liver is pushing the other organs against your rib cage.

>>727869461
I can't though I know I need to do something but I know I'm going to keep drinking, I'm dealing with a fair bit of shit and drinking helps me sleep

>>727869708
>enlarged
Will it go back to normal size if it knock it off?

>>727869708
I think my liver is fine still. But I get paranoid every time I get sick. Ive been drinking heavily for 3 years. I Was suppposed to quit on new years or my birthday, but both passed and I havnt yet.

>>727869900
Get some b15 brethren

>>727869774
The liver is a self healing organ that's can regenerate cells. Unless you start to get cirotic. Then basically what happens is your organ swells and starts to develop scar tissue. The liver cannot recover from that. Also it's known to be a very painful slow death.

>>727867574
Commit a petty crime and go to jail for a few days.

B15 is known to help your liver and also kill cancer cells, get on it

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>>727869900
Go to your fucking doctor and tell him everything. It's not a pretty road to go down. It literally ruins anything good in your life

>>727869469
I could if I wanted to, but there's no good reason to. I used to drink a 2 liter of soda a day, then I stopped drinking soda (cut out sugar in general). I used to eat junk food, then I stopped. Shit's easy.

>>727870208
I havnt been to my doctor since I started drinking everyday. I will likely quit before I see him. I'm weening down. I do a good job but I keep resetting on the weekend.

>>727868907
Spoken like someone who has never been inside the rooms. It works. If you don't need, what the fuck do you care about what other people do?

If medical marijuana is legal in your state, you can actually get a card for overcoming addiction.

>>727869461
That's how it works buddy. That "cult" and those 12 steps saved my life. It worked when nothing else did. ODAT

>>727869719
Trust me I know anon I used alcohol for sleep since I was 13 years old but eventually it will stop working.
I am this anon >>727868620
My body started to fucking wake me up all hours of the night literally like 1:40 AM so I could get to the liquor store before it closed and then about every 45 mins to an hour between 2 AM and 8 AM. Then at 8 AM when liquor stores were open again if I was physically able to I would go get more vodka.
I would drink 4-6 liters of the cheapest gut rock vodka a day until I was either in the ER or I couldn't physically manage to get out of bed.
November 28th of 2016 was my last drink, in November alone I went to the ER 4 times every time with a BAC of .400 or higher with my 4th time a BAC of .576
I have pancreatitis and liver damage now to show for my drinking. Like I said in my earlier post treatment is a little help more like a vacation really and I've been through various treatments 8 times but AA is where its at for me anyways.

>>727867574
stop. go to dryout. they will offer you rehab

>>727870443
I'm confused as to what you are saying.
Ive been to rehab for heroin and all the horror stories made me fear stopping alcohol by the time my consumption was pretty high.

>>727867634
This

>>727867755
So change job! You cant both have the pie and eat it.

>>727870316
How long you gonna lie to yourself anon? I'm not advocating AA but you need professional help. I'm speaking from experience. Alcoholism is rarely something one can stop alone.

I quit alcohol 42 days ago, was drinking a pint to a fifth of jack daniels a day for about a 6 months straight and drinking moderately the previous 5 months. Im 20 years old, 5'11", i weight at 174lbs, & about 2 years ago i barely drank maybe once or twice a month if that. I'm not mentally addicted and i was able to quit right off the bat, but about 20 hours in and i started to have withdrawl symptoms that consisted of: bad heart palpitations, whole body tremors, physical pain from head to toe, dialeted pupils that looked like i just dropped 500ug of acid (took it once before i was a drinker), cold sweats and hot flashes, delerium, nausea, insomnia stomach,liver, and kidney pain, loss of coordination, intense sweating and dehydration, dried lips and mouth (i could chug a gallon of water and it wouldn't help) and i believe i had a seizure!
(don't remember exactly when it struck i just remember laying on my bed on my back trying to open my eyes but all i could see was white and had uncontrollable eye twitches, i had NO control over a single muscle in my body and i was as stiff as a rock. Had to dig deep just to pull myself up)
Anyways after all the research i did i should be cleard up now, though, at day 42 without a single piece of me wanting to drink, I'm still having heart problems, blurry vision, breathing problems, fatigue, and mild depression that isn't compareable to the suicidal felling i had weeks ago. I'm a cannabis user who smoked to deal with my insomnia as i could barely hold 4 hours a night when i was younger, but now everytime i take a hit of anything i starts to get dehydration, increased heart rate, hot flashes in my face and tremors. Anyone ever experienced similar problems? Pic is of me after 1 hit. i have been smoking for years and before the withdrawls, it didn't do a thing to me. Now i can't even sleep or smoke... im white, but not this white

>>727870556
I have "How it works" memorized my AA nigga.
I have been in and out of AA since my early twenties and I always went back out until I got a god damn sponsor and worked the 12 steps with him and continue to do so every day. Until I finally understood this part in "How it works" I could never string more than 6 months together, "If you want what we have and are willing to go to ANY length to get it THEN you are ready to take certain steps"

>>727870713
I'm not one of the ones ITT who have a problem with AA. It just depends which location I go to. Some are better than others. Either way I dont want to go til I am already sober and trying to stay.
I think I can stop alone. I stopped heroin alone after being kicked out of every program. I really think I can quit by switching to beer and eventually I will stop caring. Its not like I can get that drunk off beer and there wouldnt be a point.

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I gave up a month ago. Was drinking a 6 pack a day to warm up then a bottle of spirits. Whiskey, vodka, gin; whatever was there. Dr put me on Modafinil because at the same time I happened to get diagnosed with narcolepsy. Modafinil for some reason took away the urge to drink completely and gave me the focus to do other things and avoid booze. Haven't looked back.

Also meth. Meth helps. Last time I went on a meth bender I didn't drink for ages because alcohol didn't have any effect while high. Found meth way easier to give up than booze.

Shitty advice, I know. It is what it is.

>>727870614
Din't mean to make things complicated. AA worded for me and many others. It's simple: just start going to meetings. If you have to get there drunk, half drunk, hungover or whatever - just start going to meetings. Literally everyone there has gone through what you have. No judgment, just a bunch of folks who are willing to help. And it's free.

>>727871127
Ive been to NA before. Do you have to get a sponser?
I met a lot of jesus freaks and really fucked up people.

>>727870924
>"If you want what we have and are willing to go to ANY length to get it THEN you are ready to take certain steps"
Exactly! Great to hear your story man.

>>727870811
Smoking weed chronically is just as bad as chronic drinking and tobacco, there just isn't enough research and cultural understanding yet to see the effects. Already research has shown novel disorders in the new age of legalized pot smoking (http://gut.bmj.com/content/48/6/859.long)
The lesson is, medical professionals used to say alcohol was good for you and prescribe it to kill disease and stress disorders. No matter what other people tell you, it's obvious that a knife cuts both ways, medicine is poison in high doses and vice versa. In the future people will look back on this generation is stupid for ruining their bodies with heavy smoking just like we look back on people who lived in the 50's and died of lung cancer because biased research "proved" that filtered cigarettes were nutritionally beneficial.

>>727869461
Look I'm cool with AA and everything, but I hate how absolutely RELENTLESS they are. If you even hint to a member of AA that you might be interested in the program pretty soon you've got 4 different people calling you multiple times a day at all hours. Checking on you, asking you personal shit about whether you've been drinking or are sober that day, it's really a breach of privacy. And also, they set you up for failure. God forbid you're sober for 3 years and have ONE slip up, time to start all over and pick up that white chip again! How degrading and discouraging. It's fine if it helps you but it makes a lot of people uncomfortable, and I'm sorry but it is a fact that most people who get sober do so without AA. They get tired of the way their life is going and straighten out. They don't completely restructure their lives around going to meetings everyday. I've seen people lose jobs because AA completely swallows them
whole just like the booze did. Suddenly they don't have the time to do anything but AA, and literally the only thing that someone working a 12 step program talks about ever is being sober. Its pitiful and creepy to listen to and be around.

>>727871224
Pretty much the only requirement in AA is being pretty fucked up! LOL Best thing to do is just start going to meetings. Worry about the other stuff later. At least for an hour, you won't be drinking.

>>727871325
......????? I've been a off and on smoker, never had issues, and same for my parent's awho are in their mid 40's.... ya, it's not even fucking close... and it never happened till i quit alcohol!

>>727868057
Wat een kanker pussy

>>727870945
Spoken like a true alcoholic my friend, I will tell you one thing it has to be you who decides if you are an alcoholic or not. In my not so humble opinion if you are still unsure then just keep drinking eventually you will find out just how powerless or not you are over alcohol. I found out the fucking hard way how powerless I was over it and until I fucking finally conceded that I was fuck powerless over it and couldn't stop on my own prepare to live in misery. That's just me though man listen to me or don't but I know a lot of alcoholics and addicts who think or thought they could stop.

you should all stop before you hurt yourself and your liver
my uncle drank a lot and he is a little damaged by all the drinking now

>>727871707
I can admit to being a alcoholic. But I am sure I can get sober. I will see. By next year if I havnt quit on my own itll be time to get help.
I get real motivated to change sometimes. Right now I just have too much I'd like to change.

Some cool guys in here, cheers anons

>>727870945
I've also battled heroin addiction AND severe alcoholism. I've detoxed hard off both. I've got to be honest with you man, you wouldn't think it, but kicking heroin is a fucking walk in the park compared to trying to quit drinking.

>>727871329
Don't fucking give out your god damn phone number to every one at the meeting then.
And yes you are right to much AA can be a very bad fucking thing I know what you are talking about man. I live right down the street from an AA group and they are fucking Nazis you have to be clean fucking shaven and wear a suit to their meetings and that is not AA to me so you know what I don't fucking go there. 150+ meetings a week where I live and I live in Montana trust me compared to other states and cities that is actually not that many but it is enough to find meetings that are vastly different than others right next door to eachother.

>>727867574
I used to be like you anon, had to drink everyday just to feel normal, & then i got hooked up to heroin, i don't drink anymore, & I've been dead for almost 2 years.

>>727872121
I can sort of believe you cause I twas easier when family and friends were very involved in supporting me to stop heroin. Now no one cares and its not illegal. Unlike heroin you cant die from just 1 use either.

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I'm not the trainwreck most of your fuckers are, but I can see myself going downhill. For the last few months, I usually have the equivalent of 6 beers a night, either ice beers or vodka. It's not so bad that I black out, but I'm drunk and generally have a hangover.

I'm worried that it's going to get to a point where I can't control it anymore. I used to drink to help me sleep, but now it's out of boredom at night. It also worries me because I have a 14 month old daughter, and if something happens to her or my wife at night, I'd be fucking worthless to drive anywhere.

But I don't want to stop drinking, because that almost seems like I'm acknowledging that I have a problem. I don't think I'm to that point yet, but any advice for metering the booze, or avoiding the "point of no return" to alcoholism?

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>>727867574
>>727867634

if you can't have a comfortable life without some helper for relaxation..
consider consuming weed. not a joke at all.
the effects are much less harmfull, especially when you dont mix it with tobacco.
and in opposite to alcohol, which basicaly numbs your senses, it makes you more receptive to your surroundings (other people, music, arts, good food, emotions, nature, etc).

also, again in opposite to alcohol, it has no physical symptoms of withdrawel and is less addictive. psychological withdrawel should be irrelevant since you should already be used that from your alcohol abuse. and watch i wording, i mean consuming weed, not abusing it. like smoking 2 joints on workdays, i.e. after coming home and before going to bed.

i hope you live in a country/state that allows medical use of marijuhana.

if that doesnt help.. last resort could be microdosing on MDMA, but you don't want to use pills, you want to get pure clean MDMA chrystals. before the spreading of MDMA as a recreational drug, great successes in the treatment of alcoholism and many other psychological disorders were determined.

best option still is going clean. however since you already realized that you need to stop but didn't stop yet abstinence does not seem like a valid option for you.

take care anon.

>>727872235
No, man even just giving my number ONE person, all of the sudden, they're calling me, their sponser is calling me, another fellow sponsee is calling me, it's ridiculou. Trying to sleep in and it's 8 in the morning. "Hey anon.. it's Tim. How you doing?" "Sleeping.. just woke up." "You hungover?" "No man it's just early." "Ah. When was the last time you drank? Are you drinking now?"
It's like fuck right on off with that bullshit. Yes I know that's not everyone in AA but I've had things of that nature happen to me enough times for me to draw the line. There are also a lot of really horrid people. One lady had killed an unborn child who was due in a month by drunkenly crashing into the mother, and all she could talk about was how grateful she was that she's sober and that she didn't have to do much jail time because "god was watching out for her." That's great but what about the fucking child you murdered? I just can't stand those types of people, and while they are a minority I'm sure, there are always going to be at least a few at any given meeting.

>>727872544
The "boredom" at night is your neurons firing more strongly than usual so you feel like you need to be doing something. It is the direct result of alcohol withdrawal from the night before. When you're drunk, your brain compensates by firing neurons more strongly to get over the dulling effect, so when the alcohol is finally filtered out, the neurons are now over-firing. That causes both the "boredom" and insomnia, and causes cravings for alcohol because your body knows that will get the neurons firing normally. You have to resist that -- once you detox, the overactive neurons will gradually go back to normal, and with it the insomnia and "boredom."

>>727873610
That's the worst part man is that anxious feeling every night when everyone else is tired and ready for bed.

>>727873048
AA at best will help you control drinking, but it does nothing to address the root problems, so you are likely to relapse. Their "treatment" is based on 1930's pop psychology where any problems can be fixed by praying, and any emotional problems are due to guilt. Science has come much further since then. Modern therapy is needed to treat the fundamental issues why you prefer to dull out the world, in addition to simply stopping drinking.

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>>727867574
I would suggest therapy after you've been to rehabilitation.

Also, my whore family are alcoholics to the point I avoid alcohol at every cost and if I have to drink (social meetings where it's awkward not to drink), I get guilty as fuck and feel dirty.

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Anyone else enjoying a little hair of the dog? Fuck yeah mimosas. Don't even care how faggy they are.

>>727873791
That's the craving for alcohol -- it's nighttime and time to drink. It's okay to feel anxious and go to bed wide-awake and toss and turn all night. What's keeping you awake will also keep you from feeling tired the next day, so don't worry about that. Your body will make you feel tired when it needs sleep.

>>727873997
I've actually managed to get in control of myeself. For awhile I was just drinking entirely too much so I looked into aa, it wasn't for me, and I ended up being able to just quit. Now I like to go out and enjoy a couple beers once or twice a week. Wow look at that! I don't have a disease after all. The solution is called "moderation," lol. It also makes drinking much more enjoyable and something to look forward to.

>>727870676
whatlike... he can't share the pie with his job? or like... he can't eat his own pie??... which is it anon, this information is vital!

>>727874505
If it's enjoyable and something you look forward to, why not do it every day?

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>>727874832
Because when I do that it fucks with my sleeping pattern. I naturally have pretty bad anxiety and I've managed to get it under control with an antidepressant and seroquel along with the occasional benzo. I don't want to start tricking my brain into thinking it's going to get alcohol to fall asleep every night.

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>>727867574
Jesus still loves you.
some of us have a higher calling in life like serial murder or A.M. alcoholism all you have to do is believe in yourself and follow your true calling in life and one day you to can either black out while driving and run over ten people or get a nine year old pregnant after killing a convent full of nuns, even Hitler had bad days always remember that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARc_mdE_r6A

>>727867574
no ordinary drug test can detect use of any of the conventional psychedelics. one good mushy trip will get you off booze for good. guaranteed

buy a spoke-kit for golden teachers online. grow the kit. prep all of the yield (clean them then dehydrate them)
make sure you have a couple days off work lined up. chew the mushrooms up into a fine paste a small bite at a time until PBBBBLLLLLLLT. Come to naked somewhere after about 24hr and I guarantee you will be cured of alcoholism.

No word of a shit though, psychedelic therapy cures alcoholism in one session and mushrooms, LSD and DMT do not show up on a conventional drug test.

I heard the test to check for LSD use costs like $1000 and even if you were caught you could call it a spiking, say you never noticed anything strange and noone will dig any further.

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>>727875211
don't stop drinking what ever you do even if it kills you keep with the achievements and accomplishments you have an obligation to your substance dependency brothers and sisters to lead us to the holy land...

>>727875028
So you've simply replaced alcohol with other chemicals to treat your depression and anxiety? You still need some kind of therapy to address those issues.

>>727873610
>>727873791
That actually makes a lot of sense. I do notice myself getting antsy at night when my wife goes to bed, and I think "man, I'm not even tired, let me down a few beers and a glass of vodka to make sure I fall asleep soon". I know the sleep you get when you're hammered is bad anyway, but yeah, it puts my mind at ease knowing I'll at least be asleep for 5 hours.

So far, making the alcohol less available to myself seems to be working, but there are nights I close at work, then open the next morning, I find myself stopping at a gas station for a few ice house edges to make sure I can get some sleep in.

>>727875376
I do go to therapy? And my fucking psychiatrist recommends that I take these things. Let me guess you dont believe in medication? Every problem can be solved with a little chit chat and a pat on the back, right? Some people need to take medication.

>>727867574
put all your money in a savings account so you cant buy alcohol

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>>727875353
I have not slept in 24 hours and I have realized that every living being on planet earth is beneath me and

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>>727875570
do not stop if you came here to ask for help to stop it just means you want someone to drink with if you really wanted to stop you would have gone to twelve step and stopped...

>>727876110
But I don't want to stop, there is nothing TO stop. I love my life. I was interested in hearing OPs story. The subject of AA came up and I had a terrible experience with it and didn't need it and wanted to see what others had to say about it. I don't have any reason to quit doing what I'm doing. I see a therapist, have Paxil for generalized anxiety, and I love to crush a couple beers on fridays and saturdays. Thanks for the assessment though, doc!

>>727875396
I get good sleep if i get slightly drunk then stop for 2 hours and fall asleep.

aye man, i used to be too. im only 16 tho so it was a little tricky. so instead of drinking a lot often when i got the chance to get my hands on any sort of liquor id just go for it and drink till i had none left. I decided that i needed to stop when i downed a bottle of whisky my dad was given for Christmas in 40 minutes on a school night and messaged all of my ex's and spent the next 24 hours throwing it all up.

basically the moral of the story is: you'll be able to stop as soon as you hit rock bottom and you're not even that bad of a drunk

2 months sober