Ok /b/ I have a question. If the nazis did supposedly get the

ur a fag lol.

You're a fag, lol.

i think it's a good Q

>>727320760
Too time consuming. And, the working and death camps were pretty close. They wanted to keep the death camp secret, so all of the screaming from people being burned alive would give it away immediately. Plus, they wanted to remove all the jewelry and even gold teeth from the corpses. The nazis were fucked, buy they weren't fucked on a level to rip teeth from living people.

>>727320760
>>727320760

Holohoax.

>>727322036
Surely they could've gagged them and set it to a heat that wouldn't melt gold

>>727322108
You can't honestly believe that the holocaust never happened. There's literally so much evidence. What the hell do you make of the gas chambers and piles of dead Jews?

>>727322190
It would take a lot more time to gag them, burn them, sift through and carry the ashes, put more Jews in there, and oh fuck, they burned the gags. It's just better to suffocate, do all your mutilation, burn, be done with them.

>>727322270
"gas chambers" used wooden doors, gas can get through wood

>>727322190
But wouldn't just gassing them first be easier? Yeah. That's what the nazis thought too.

>>727322343
So what?!!!? A wooden door isn't going to stop a huge concentration of gas from killing a room full of people. Try again.

>>727320760
because they originally were just burying jews in mass graves, this takes up a lot of room and so they opted for burning them because ashes take up less room.

>>727322190
melting point of gold is lower than the melting point of bone.

>>727322270
>>727322343
did happend. though, not in such rate as it's descirbed. yes, jews died. but stallin was worse. and, i mean, 3d scanners has shown how many jews that COULDVE been burned in auswitch for example. so yes, it did happen, but not in those numbers as history (winners) has described it. and where did you read that it was wooden doors?? pls show source as I've seen photos of so called gas chambers, was pretty solid metal doors imo

>>727322671
people generally say 6 million jews but it's more than likely 6 million people in general were killed in the camps total, with overlaps of russian and jew.

If Nazis hate Jews and burned the shit of them and Hitler hated them a lot in his book.

Why deny the Holocaust, wouldn't they be proud of it?

>>727322960
I think people try deny the holocaust so they can use it as ammunition against jews, kinda to say that they lie about it and make it a negative thing about jews instead of a negative thing that happened to jews.

Burning dead bodies is simple, and can be done a few bodies at a time; burning live bodies would involve people struggling and fighting as they'd realize what lay ahead. With gas chambers, victims thought they were being herded into much-needed showers.

It was also cheap and simple; Nazis used carbon monoxide, a byproduct of burning fuel and bodies anyway. By comparison, most American chambers use hydrogen cyanide gas, except Oklahoma which uses nitrogen. Gassing was probably psychologically easier on people doing the killing as well. Of course in the camps, prisoners did much of the herding, killing and disposal work; soldiers just had to guard and supervise them. There's never a shortage of cooperative prisoners in "kill them or die" situations, throughout history around the world.

>>727320760
Because then the irony of Jews being murdered by their own invention would cease to be. Dumbass.

>>727320760
Because, contrary to popular opinion, 6 gorrilion Jews weren't killed in the lolocaust
/thread

>>727322649
What about flesh and organs? Take that into account?

Because then you'd have to wait for a batch of jews to burn before you can kill the next. With a dedicated gas chamber you can have a furnace going burning the ones you've already killed, gas a new batch in the meantime and so on.

>>727324184
Yeah way more efficient. They suffered plenty during gassing, don't worry OP.

>>727320760
contrary to the popular opinion, 6 billion jews were not gassed, but Hitler actually personally bought candies for everyone, so most ended up having diabetus and died.

>>727320760
Because to soak all those live people in enough flammable liquid as to burn them alive would cost more than to gas them.

If you already have a pile of dead people, ot takes less fuel to burn them all because you can afford for it to be a slow process. Were you trying to burn them alive, you'd have to coat them in fuel to get the job done quickly.

It was very cheap to just gas them.

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>>727322906
the total num,ber of people killed was only 473 thousand

there were only 1 million jews in germany before the war

please stop passing along muh 6 million meme

the soviets killed way more
how?
starvation
why?
because stalin was a jew puppet


all jews want to create a slave race of subhumans to serve them before god has a second coming

they try to do this with socialism.
all are equal undersocialism
except for the jews - there were thousands of jews under and beside stalin living the high life while literally millions starved to death

they try to do this in every country

a high echelon of jews controlling a subhuman population

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>>727324459
6 billion??? Considering there's only an estimated 7 billion beings on earth, I'm pretty sure you have your numbers wrong there pal.

>>727320760
Basic economics, Untermensch.

>>727324572
Yeah building a system to burn lots of people would be impossible.

>>727320760
why would they cut the middle man if they are already gassing and burning him ?

>>727320760
Remember that after the "final solution" was formally implemented at the Wansee Conference the name of the game became efficiency. If you were tasked with killing X number of people a day you would likely try to find the most efficient way of doing it. Trying to herd people into a giant oven would have been a mess, though it did happen that way (at least according to some accounts). A much easier way would be to get as many people as possible in a confined space then throw a canister of gas in after them. No struggle, just a room full of dead bodies after a half an hour or so.

People actually believe the holohoax kek

>>727324630
That's totally fake you scrub lol, watch any video on the camp's interior architecture, and you can clearly see gas rooms with solid steel, and air seal-able doors.

>>727323860
Except that they didn't use carbon monoxide, it was Zyklon B gas which was a cyanide based pesticide

>>727320760
its easier to get someone to think they're going to be deloused as opposed to baked.

>>727320760
Someone who's burning alive is going to be screaming and yelling. When you want the other Jews/communists/etc. in the camp to get in the "shower," you don't want screams being heard. If they've heard screaming, they won't go in as easily. Even if they know that the dead are incinerated, they wouldn't know that the "showers" are the ones doing it, especially if family members are separated (which they often were) and placed among strangers whom they would not recognize even if they did come back.

>>727322671
I beg the differ, there has been many suppressed documentaries about professional analysts taking samples from several inches of brick deep, in many of the supposed gas chambers, and found literally no residue from any sort of lethal gas. The synopsis? That if gas "were" used to kill people, in which the piping and set up does describe, than it was very rare. Definitely not a scale of mass execution. Dig for the doc's, they are out there.

you guys dont see the forest for the trees. dont eat up what western media and propaganda try to shove down your throat. as you may know , winners write history. hitler and the nazis weren't half as bad at the bolsheviks.

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>>727322270
There's also a lot of shady shit going on that you probably don't know about.

At best, Jews are making a huge profit from the Holocaust industry (books, stories, movies, documentaries, guided tours) and don't want their business model devaluated, at worst the Holocaust is, to a massive extent, simply fabricated nonsense.

I'll dump some pictures and you can see for yourself.

>>727322270

calling it the most superlative atrocity in human history is the lie, anon. the use of the word holocaust is superlative. what about shia lebeouf's cajuns? 50% of them died in concentration camps, but who calls that THE holocaust???

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>>727320760
You can stack cordwood higher when it's not struggling.

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>>727326106

hitler killed jews. no doubt. after all, war is war. but 6 millions jews? fuck no. hell, sovjet killed roughly 8 millions people but nobody cares about a bunch of dead russians.

there's a lot of money involved in the WW2 guilt industry. There's no doubt that there are jews who makes serious profit from keeping those numbers alive. And it's also bovious that there are other, non-jewish people, who profits from this as well, both politically and financially.

too bad this question is so taboo.

>>727326065
da fuck?

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>>727322343
Dickhead.

>>727320760
They tested gas to see what it would do to them. then burned their carcasses.

>>727324618
Except Stalin hated jews aswell. He purged the old bolshaheviks from the soviet union. The old bolaheviks were mostly jewish. Second he sent a large amount of jews to siberia and even when meeting with hitler discussed the Jewish problem. He even sent a jew to a gulag because stalin daughter fell in love with him.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism

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>>727326211
Yeah, Jews have fabricated the most outrageous stories about the alleged Holocaust. I got some more ridiculous shit, keep reading.

>>727324618
maybe 6 million people in total died in the war then, I dont fucking know, its just the number I learned growing up so I have no idea what the actual number was.

hell I had never seen a jew until 2007 when I saw a stereotypical hasidic jew and a cowboy the same day.

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>>727326372
"NAZI BLOOD FACTORY" -- Who the hell believes this shit? This is like straight out of a low-quality horror movie

ther wher only 2 mil jews killed in ww 2 the reast was gipsis, the european contrys had good count on jews and qipsis and ther only 2,2 mil jews mising after ww 2 but ther are over 7 mil qipsis missin but no one want to take abute the qipsis

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>>727326465
Brace yourself for the next one though

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>>727326573
Everybody point at the jew and laugh for making up this absolutely retarded story.

>>727324967
Those were built for the personnel there

>>727320760
SIEG HEIL.....DEUTSCHLAND ERWACHE

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>>727326669
>specially trained rape dogs

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>>727326834
Ehre des Vaterland
Sorry if it's bad German

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>>727327009
Official website of some jewish holohoax museum

They burned the corpses to prevent epidemics in general.
If they were war prisoners which couldn't get any supplies until they died or they were at working camps close to the front.

Why didn't they burn war prisoners as well, instead of just let them hunger and burn them afterwards?
Because (belive it or not) there is a grade of humanity which prevents people from torturing people to death.
If mass killing is involved, one is either experimenting with something which should be hugely efficient in it, or tries it to make it in a good efficient but more 'humane' way. (e.g. intensive lifestock farming for meat)

>>727327070
its made by russians, they were probably too drunk and stupid to notice.

>>727326465
Its called propaganda.
This and >>727326372 were both from wartime papers.

You should read some of the shit both sides were saying about the other. As far as the japs were concerned, the Americans were raping male Japanese soldiers and slaughtering entire villages then blaming it on the japs.

Its to keep people pissed off at the enemy. Truth doesn't come into it.

This doesn't refute mass gassing at all

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>>727327365
>Nazis used powerful electric currents to kill jews instead of just shooting them
German efficiency I guess!

Obviously some gore stories to draw attention

>>727326669
>>727326861
Why is this retarded?

The knife room is a bit far fetched but could be a prototype blender of sorts.

Rape dogs are a pretty damn clever idea really... especially if you want to fuck a subhuman without getting your dick dirty

>>727322270
FYI testing of the gas chambers walls in many concentration camps that are said to have used zyklon-b have come up negative

>>727328037
is that taking into account the half life of the chemicals?

I don't know a whole lot about these things but it's all very interesting.

>>727323125
that's pretty fukked up.

>>727328698
just a theory, I really have no idea about any of this shit, I just have general understanding of human nature and a moderately high amount of empathy.

>>727322960
This.

> jews are evil
> jews are the root of all evil
> jews are subhuman scum
> jews must be wiped out
But we didn't kill them... look, here's a whole heap of evidence to say we didn't do it. We are nice guys really... please don't hate us....

>>727322190
But that would mean giving away the suffering ahead of the remaining prisoners. Considering the numbers of people in the camps, this would very likely make their 'work' keeping remaining ones in order much harder. Swift and without many complaints of the 'disposal' method if it would have been anything but humans. Considering the national socialistic ideology likens these people with pests, it's not hard to see their intentions. It's ideologically totalitarian in its wish to diminish people into something you're free to dispose of as long as you are a government. The government decides what life is allowed to existing, and the only reason anyone agrees with such an ideology is because they happen to exist in the highest ranking bullshit category their ideology has made up. Fear is easy to spread, and voila, you can blame anyone you want for any societal problems.
Therefor, national socialists are the worst type of cucks.
>don't want freedom, wants government to even control life and death
>believes anything the elite tells them, grants more government control over life of citizens

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>>727328849
Bro. The holocaust did happen but it was neglectably small compared ti lets say soviet genocide of the ukrainians that they were actually sided with hitler or the british murders in india etc etc. My thought is that the allies with the jewish support consealed their warcrimes, washed their hands of any bad deeds and helped the jews to get israel.

>>727320760
Keep them from moving

>>727326861

thats really hot actually

>>727329787
Duh.

If someone had me locked up for no apparent reason and my friends kept disappearing every time they had a shower, I'd be writing some pretty nasty shit about the place too.

>>727329834
yeah i heard that the death toll of soviets in WWII was somewhere around 100 million, hearing those numbers I can believe the 6 million jews dead statistic.

I think when people see large numbers they think "wow that's a lot, are you sure it was that high" because when I saw the deathtoll of women in russia from domestic violence being 14000 I was a bit skeptical myself of that number but it checks out.

>>727322270
>Piles of dead Jews
Where?

>>727329834
Bullshit. Nazi germany occupied large portions of central europe, this meant collection of jews in occupied areas. Do you have fact checked your info? Does it stem from something that ISN'T propaganda? And no, not everything that doesn't agree with your hypothesis is lies, just because it disagrees with your preconceived ideologically filtered disposition. There's way more evidence for the holocaust happening in the 6 million jews, 11 million total, range than anything else. What's wrong about these findings? Apart from
>they're lying, they're part of the conspiracy
It's not like the methods of getting these estimates are impossible to recreate, with a hypothesis of them having altered results.

>Unscientific nazis, who could have imagined?

>>727322671
stalin did literally nothing wrong those kulak assholes had it coming

>>727330325
So how do you discern the lies from the truth? Gas chambers could be a lie for all we know because the inmates were dishonest people.

>>727331813
Because the gas chambers exist?

THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED WAKE UP RETARDS

>>727332019
But they didn't.

>>727331813
You look at the physical evidence. There's evidence from both sides that gas chambers existed.

I don't know much about exactly what went on at Auschwitz, but I'd guess some of the stories were exaggerated. I can't imagine 600 perfectly good slave labourers would be driven out to a field and shot by 3 or 4 SS guys when there was a major labour crisis.

10 or 20 troublemakers, yeah sure. That I can believe

>>727320760
Your a fag lol

>>727332456
>There's evidence from both sides that gas chambers existed.
Delousing chambers did indeed exist. They were not used to gas human beings to death.

>>727332607
Sorry dude. They were used to gas humans to death.

I'm petty sure you're either demented or trolling, but you give me something other than 'kike conspiracy' and I might actually listen.

Please, no neo-nazi 'infographics' either. They're just retarded.

>>727332964
>no mass graves ever found
>no ashes indicating large quantities of bodies cremated ever found
>Many people who were in the internment camps admitted to lying about the conditions there
>why would the Germans go to such great lengths to round up a population if they were going to be executed instead of used as a labor force?
In reality less then 10,000 Jews died in the internment camps.

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>>727333242
> no sources cited
> no evidence given

That's not going to work.

Here's a picture of a large number of skinny, fresh, neatly stacked men sources suggest are from Dachau.

If nothing else it suggests mass graves were used and prisoners weren't in great condition.

>>727333242
Didn't the mass executions happen near the end of the war, once it became clear the Nazis weren't going to win? If the war is ending then there is less of a need for a large labor force, meaning that there was no more reason to keep the prisoners alive

>>727333242
my grandfather worked in a camp. he was never caught. he got so fucking scared/angry whenever there would be some story about some dude they found 40 years later and put on trial.

He sold out Jews when they fled the Ukraine, and later worked as a gard at a camp for the Germans.

Here is the summary

>they gassed
>they burned
>they killed

Disease was a real, but incidental problem.

He died 5 years ago, so I don't mind telling people now. I know those JIDF fags hang out here, and will probably get my IP...

next time I'll post a pic of his nazi-stamped work papers. They were proof that the last 3 generations in our family were not jews.

>>727334207
There was also a huge typhus outbreak at the time. Many of the deaths are probably linked to that, and then yes the did incinerate the bodies. Aushwitz had a theater, a brothel, a cafe, art classes and other education, a legit hospital and many other things that the Jews don't discuss.

>>727334573
>disclaimer: anecdotal evidence based on second hand reporting.

>>727334618
You of course have verifiable proof of these claims?

>>727334889
I don't need to give you proof. Look it up. It's a fact that these things existed and the brothel still stands.

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you are a fag lol

>>727334207
But why would you waste valuable time and resources executing a large group of people, then wasting more resources cremating the bodies? Especially since the Germans had historically taken large populations prisoner as a work force so work camps consisting of slave laborers is nothing new.

>>727334956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camp_brothels_in_World_War_II

they killed so many people that they d8dnt have the logistical ability to even shoot everyone gas was the fastest cheapest

>>727335062
OP here
Gotta say that's nearly 100% right but my waist is slightly smaller

>>727335273
Heads up, Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. But if you go to the bottom of the page where wikipedia inserted their sources, those sources are credible.

>>727335398
Here i found a better source much more credible

>>727335398
http://www.rense.com/lets_stop_with_the_auschwitz_lies.htm.html

>Hey guuyse
>Lets round up all the Joosee in camps and prpvide them food, entertainment and medical provision and much more at the time of being cornered to a tightspot in the midst of war with scarce resources and then lets build special rollercosters rails that has a happy finale all the way to the oven
>But Mein Fuhrer! woudn`t just a bullet to the head be cheap, we are very tight on budget
>Nein! the Jooce must be catered to and be given a first class service before we kill them off
>Okie
yep holomordor makes so much sense

>>727324618
>in Germany
during WW2 Germany wasn't in Germany, hence the war

You have to use gas to make a fire

>>727336398
lol you're an idiot.

>>727320760
>>>727320760
>Too time consuming.
It would have saved time. Instead of organizing, paying for poison, build special chamber, gasing, physical labor of moving bodies, burning by 2 to 3 at a time per crematorium burner vs big room of fire in one shot in the time it would have burned a deal person.

They gassed then burned because the Nazis aren't grotesque monsters.

>And, the working and death camps were pretty close.

Oftentimes they weren't. A lot of them were miles away from the nearest city. The people surrounding the camps literally ignored the camps because they didn't want to know what was going on.

>They wanted to keep the death camp secret, so all of the screaming from people being burned alive would give it away immediately.

Again, often times they were miles away.

>Plus, they wanted to remove all the jewelry and even gold teeth from the corpses.

The Nazis did this during the cataloging once the Jews and others first arrived. This was no excuse for not burning them without gassing first.

>The nazis were fucked, buy they weren't fucked on a level to rip teeth from living people.

Some of them DID rip teeth from living people.


Seriously, were you born under a rock?

>>727335884
Damn those Germans for not speaking fucking Engish like any civilized race...

I'm trying to get through this lot, but all I'm seeing is a bunch of uncited cherry- picked evidence, propaganda photos and dead links. The only thing of interest is the stuff from the Red Cross, but the links are bad and the vides don't appear to work so I had to go looking.
The Red Cross also didn't do surprise inspections and most of the nurses were German non-jews...

>>727338478

A lot of them did speak English including some if the high authorities.

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>>727320760
Go die Nazi Scum if someone should be burne d alive it is your kind. Another fact Hitler was addicted to amphetamine and cocain had onlyone Ball and couldn´´t get it up. Your Idol is literaly a psychopathic impotent Speed Junkie. (Yeah i know it was Pervitin which is a somewhat weaker kindof methaphetamine Rommel was addicted too as well as Himmler)

>>727339051
Try again but with grammar this time.

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>>727339051
Also morphine, barbiturates and a number of other things.

>>727320760
>>>727320760
>Go die Nazi Scum if someone should be burne d alive it is your kind. Another fact Hitler was addicted to amphetamine and cocain had onlyone Ball and couldn´´t get it up. Your Idol is literaly a psychopathic impotent Speed Junkie. (Yeah i know it was Pervitin which is a somewhat weaker kindof methaphetamine Rommel was addicted too as well as Himmler)


I challenge you to find multiple credible sources for every aligation you made.

>>727338802
Unfortunately most of the evidence on that site is in German and I don't trust the translations.

Besides, you seen a modern refugee camp? Cinemas, saunas, pools, exercise equipment, computers, social events... fuckers got access to more shit than I do. But everything is monitored and controlled.

Click Click gets beaten by guards, he's not going to find it easy to get his story out. Ooga Booga writes a letter saying he's having the time of his life, they'll publish it in the fucking papers.

It'd be pretty easy to start clearing those detention centers without anyone ever knowing.