How do I get a christian guy to embrace his gay side? I'm

>>727278573
Grab his dick.

>>727278573
Get him super drunk and suck his dick. It'd work on me.

>>727278638
>>727278739
He doesn't drink sadly.

He's so cute. He keeps saying he loves me, and how he wants to fuck, but when I try to get physical he goes full religious

>>727278573
join the priesthood

>>727278809
Try the massage route then? Play it off as just a massage, but make sure it rules him up sexually.

>>727278887
Hmm, that's a great idea.

Anything else like that which might work?

>>727278956
If that doesn't work, maybe just talk to him about it when you're cuddling or something. Relationships are complicated and need communication and compromise.
TBH I'd be happy with anyone remotely same and attractive being attracted to me.

>>727279081
Thanks.

Every time I'm with him I have this overwhelming desire to just grab his dick.

>>727279472
I know what you mean, I'm the exact same way with my wife's ass.

>>727279602
Hey, but you can just grab it at any time.

Could try talking to him about why he thinks its wrong. It's old testament nonsense, there's plenty of it. Does he wear more than 1 fabric of clothing at a time? If so, he's going against the bible.

Remind him that the bible is not literally the word of God. It is the word of God, given to men, who have free will, who then write it down, so a lot of shit gets in there that isn't God's will. This is the difference between the bible and the koran, one is viewed literally, the other isn't (usually). The closest thing we have to sure things is the words of Jesus, who never mentions anything about homosexuality.

A lot of context gets caught up in the bible. For example, at the time, being gay was kinda immoral, because there was a population shortage and gays can't have kids. Today, we have the opposite problem. There's loads of shit like that, in the old testament especially. Remind him that David, the one from the David and Golliath story, had a male lover, and is often revered among christians.

I'm a gay christian and I have no issue reconciling one with the other, in the same way that no other christian seems to mind wearing 2 fabrics together.

>>727280577
I'm an atheist, and haven't really read the bible much.

Are there any sections, or chapters I could read for this argument?

>>727278573

>join the priesthood
>rank higher than him in those fucking ranks they have
>use your position of power to turn him into your cockslut

>>727280733
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_and_Jonathan#Homoeroticism

Here's a section. But the main thing is just about the context stuff I've mentioned. A lot of stuff in the bible is NOT the words of God. This is accepted by most christians, hence why we don't stone people for adultery anymore. There is so much context in there too, and a lot of people believe the gay stuff is too, because the bible was written in a time of under-population. In my view, if homosexuality was an important thing to God, his true messenger Jesus (who, remember, came because we kept fucking everything up and mis-interpreting shit) would have said something about it. But he doesn't.

>>727280733
Since leviticus has all the fucking weird rules regarding gay sex, fabric, seafood, start with that. I would recommend reading it too for the lols.

>>727280991
But the bible is a work of fiction silly!

>>727280991
>>727280995
Thank you anons.

I think I'm supposed to say "god bless you" here or something.

Uhhh, thank you for helping me convince my friend to give me his anal virginity.

>>727280733
It's very simple. The point of the no-gay-sex thing is the same as the no masturbation thing. The point is not to waste sperm, because that would go against the commandment of procreation. So you can bargain with him that you'll get a chick to carry his kid and then the commandment is fulfilled and it's not so much a sin anymore. Then you just have to stall until you want a kid.

>>727281080
I mean, I'm a christian and yeah, a lot of it is. Like I said I genuinely believe that the message of God is in there, but also it was written by people with free will, biases, interpretations etc. That was the gift that God gave us, free will, and it's why the bible should never be understood as a word-for-word hard interpretation of how to be.

>>727281158
Not even just that but again, this comes from context.

We know that wasting sperm is seen as bad in those times. However now we understand that, actually, masturbation and the like can lead to us having healthier prostates and actually increase our chances of mating, so the whole interpretation makes very little sense. This is exactly what I was on about when I was talking about context and the interpretation of God's messages by men with free will.

>>727281246
God is also a work of fiction you ninny!

>>727281349
>2017
>Being an atheist
It's okay, I was young once too :)

>>727281246
Man, that's one of greatest things that I've heard from Christians about bible, you're awesome

>>727281404
Bro, there is literally no evidence for god, and don't give me that whole current year bullshit. Atheism is growing all around the world because people are finally realising that religion and god is bullshit. Join them.

>>727281739
Being an agnostic I understand, perfectly logical. But you calling me stupid because I 'know' (to myself) that there is a God, while you are also having total faith in there not being one is retarded. Being an atheist requires the same level of faith that you call religious people stupid for having. At least agnosticism actually makes sense.

Full agnost here.

I wish more Christians were like you. Instead of throwing the book at us, this is an awesome thread where discussion is actually possible.

Thank you for being awesome. OP is still a fag though ;)

>>727281739
Hurr, I live in ignorance of something most people spend hours every week studying and discussing to improve their lives and communities. Iamverysmart

>>727281825
>implying atheism requires faith
>current year

I don't have "faith" that theres no god, i just see it as the most statistically unlikely thing to exist, as theres no documented proof of his existence.

Fyi, being agnostic is just the pussy version of atheism. Go the whole way or go home.

>>727281926
>Most
M8, only weird fundies study the bible every week, and their numbers are dropping by the year.

>>727282110
lol talk to us when you hit 16 underage B&

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Ok, he'll be waking up in a few hours.

I'm going to sleep and read up on this shit for tomorrow.

I'll report in a different thread if I meet with success.


If anyone has any more ideas please post them , I will read the archived version tomorrow. Enjoy your theological discussion and think you.

>>727282178
M8 i'm 25. Is your only responce to what i said an insult about my age? Thats pretty weak dude.

>>727282288
I guess i'll just claim victory, despite the fact that you guys just left. W/e

>>727282248
Good luck. And on a less religious more gay to gay topic, don't forget plenty of lube if it's his first time. My rule of thumb, if you think you're using too much lube, you're using the right amount.

>>727282500
How does one apply lube anyway?

>>727282606
I tend to just cover my dick it it, rub it with my hand to make sure it's everywhere, then rub some on his ass/lube fingers and finger him (he might want to finger himself. When I bottom I prefer to finger myself first so I can stretch properly to get ready for the D. He also might wanna use a toy first, depends on how big you are/if he's fingered before and whatnot).

>>727282785
Not a gay, but how do you make sure there is no poop in there?

>>727282865
Enema. Its nasty the first few times (from what i've heared), but it cleans the whole thing out.

>>727282916
Do you do that before you have anal?

>>727282865
Ok so this is actually quite interesting, and not many people know this.

But poo is actually not stored in your ass. It's stored higher up. It comes down when you're ready to go. So essentially what you do is you go to the toilet, poo, then wait. Make sure you get it all out. Wipe PROPERLY (including using baby wipes to clean a tiny bit inside). Then wait an hour or so. Finger yourself and ta da, it should be totally clean.

If you eat mostly an amerifat diet of mcdonalds for every meal, this may be harder due to the lack of fiber and you may have to douche before. But that's unnecessary if you have a semi-decent diet/don't have IBS.

>>727282938
Well yeah. It also helps to not eat for a few hours beforehand, to ensure nothing starts going down there.

Since this is now a gay thread, can you guys tell me how im supposed to finger myself? I've tried using my fingers, but i just can't get them in there.

>>727283124
You will need lube. Spit can do (don't use water, it does the opposite of lubricate). Go very slow and remember you have 2 sphincters. One on the outside, and one slightly further in. Relax relax relax relax is the real key here. If you tense, the muscle contracts and you won't get your finger in.

Use lube, go slow, relax.

>>727283218
>If you tense, the muscle contracts and you won't get your finger in.
Yeah, having trouble with that part. How do i un-tence it? also should i be using gloves?

>>727283370
You can use gloves, I personally don't. Just relax, deep breaths. Have porn on to turn you on, this will help relax you. I can't really explain what it is I do, but I can sorta control the muscle there, and tense/un-tense it.

>>727278573
I know, don't try to coerce him into something he doesn't want to do. If he did he'd already have done it. Fucking faggot

>>727283438
Alright, it's in there. So do i just wiggle it around or do thrusting?

>>727283870
Whatever feels good, your P spot is up towards your penis (your prostate)

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>>727278573
Show him pics of guys who look like girls

Pic related

>>727278573
If he's your friend, why not respect his beliefs...you know...like a friend would.

>>727283907
Yeah, im not really feeling this. Probably just because im tired. So, i'll just ask one last question. When my finger is completely errect and in there, theres this big fleshy feeling thing that just kinda vounces of my finger. Is this the "2nd spinchter" you were talking about, or is that my intestine? Also, because i jerk it with my right, am i supposed to use my left for this butt stuff?

>>727281347
Masturbation isn't a sin.

But if you're fucking your late brother's widow with the intention of impregnating her so that the family will have an heir, then you're supposed to cum inside her.

Unfortunately, Christians are retarded and chose to interpret the story of Onan as "dont touch ur willy u little shit, u will go to hell lol"

>>727278573
You'll hurt him so much that it'll hurt you if you do it right.

My advice is "You can't fix stupid, stupid!" consensual sex will lead to him claiming you raped him ect. His family goes along with it in court while you're now a sex offender. Then they disown him because they're retarded af.

>>727284325
Probably your prostate, and yeah use left

>>727280577
Literal moralfag

Also, check'd

>>727278573
send him pics like this one