>Question for Military fags Is joining the military with

>>727149529
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>>727149529
If that fucker is going to an hero he'll do it with or with out the military.

Only the absolute last resort should be military .. if your that depressed .. it should be with the intention of fixing it . With the rigid life your about to endure.. for a bit then it's really not that bad .

If your joining the military I hope your more into the "defending my families freedoms" kinda thing

>>727149680
That's just it, if he's rejected or fails it'll only make him feel worse

>>727149529
The exercise and daily duties being scheduled-ish could actually help with the depression, but better tell that nigger to be careful

>>727149813
Thanks
I'm just hoping he makes it past boot camp

>>727149845
Military is always a roll of the dice

who knows what will happen

It's a terrible idea. Different kind of lifestyle and unless you are the unwavering kind you'll just be ground to dust.

If purpose is what you are looking for--if that was your issue all along--and you're hot shit in at least one thing you'll provablt make it okay.

OP. First off, what made you depress. We need to assess how much of a sensitive little faggot you are to see if you're cut up for the ejercito.

>>727149813
>I hope your more into the "defending my families freedoms" kinda thing

why? that's a lie.

>>727150129
ironically he's tried of stayin at home at his age

More than likely won't pass aptitude testing and the interview process.

Guaranteed to break you out of your rut.

>>727150266
I'm not depressed

>>727150352
He's passing the asvab

>>727150362
you've seen it before?

>>727149529
Yes its a terrible idea. Im in the Marine Corps currently. Well actually its navy so maybe not as bad. What is his depression from? If he gets depressed from being homesick and hes a lazy fuck who doesnt want to do anything than yes hell probably an hero himself.

>>727151313
Being old and staying at home
now everything pisses him off or puts him to tears

>>727151313
OP here
my brother was a Marine
SEMPER FI

>>727151487
Rah man thats whats up

>>727151416
Well then hed probably try to fnd a way out of basic when hes over there or do something crazy. Ive seen some crazy shit from people trying to get out of the Marines.

>>727151566
HAHA
Gonna join after I get my EE degree and work for NASA

LMAO this 1st lt was a fucking astronauts know it all

>>727151676
haha man im not following. Which lt?

>>727151631
He's lazy(real source of his problems)
but he's done juijitsu for 4 years
He's in shape and knows the family environment

>>727151804
I've wanted to be a Electrical engineer for NASA since I was 10

The 1st lt is just after

>>727151826
Well its different for everyone but it really matters what triggers his depression and how serious it gets. Im in the Marines so the culture is a bit different than the Navy and we certainly get a lot more fucked up day-to-day. Navy would be a good option for him as well as Air Force. Just tell him not to be a bitch. He can either learn a lot and become a hard motherfucker or he can allow the Navy to be a bully and blame his mental health on them if he gets more depressed. What job does he want to do?

military/vet an hero rate is high
depressed + enlist = kys

>>727151948
ahhhh okay gotcha. My cousin actually works for NASA. Hes not an EE, he does something with computer software or something (never really asked him cause im not too close).

>>727152063
LMAO
Me and my marine brother did tell him that

look up Kevin Heart dad advice

>>727149529
tell him to do it. it will prolly improve his shitty life. navy is prolly gonna fite chyna in the future tho.

>>727152183
Sweet
all the tech bullshit is pretty cool once you know it
I know all types of shaddy shit, thanks science

>>727152208
The one on Conan?

>>727152183
cool my dad works at nintendo

>>727152127
Agreed
people come back sad as hell

>>727149529
My best friend was an alcohol addict and wanted to drink every weekend. he joined the navy as a cook(asvab score was shit) and is doing pretty good. He's fit af tho so that may differ with your friends situation. He calls me and tells me he's banging hot bitches ever so often and bough himself a nice bike as well as sports car. He's currently stationed in san diego.

>>727152362
I think
Dad told kevin don't be a bitch

>>727152452
nice to hear
also, real person not a guess

>>727149529
Of course it is. MEPS checks you out to make sure your clean of everything before joining.

>>727152452
San Diego is the place to be stationed. I was suppossed to be at Miramar which is right next to it but some motherfucker stole my fucking orders when i was graduating my MOS school. Its okay, NC is faaaaar superior

>>727152572
They lie to you, can't lie back?
lol, jk

>>727152572
MEPS doesnt really do shit honestly. They cant even check your civilian medical records. You could join as a functioning skizophrenic dude if you really wanted.

>>727152583
Yup but he's currently heading out right now onto a ship. Told me if I wanted to go to San Diego to live for free at his place because his orders were given on short notice and help watch his car and bike. I said no....cost of living is too high over there imo.

>>727152583
Glad to head
only one thief on base, lol

>>727149529
He'll probably get a medical discharge when symptoms start to show in boot camp.

>>727152659
LMAO
you hand them info
it's like cops but sadder

>>727152659
nope. you sign an authorization to allow them to see your health records including mental health records.

No, we cant send the weak to war. His first kill will be a terrorist, his second will be himself.

>>727152831
Navy don't really fight, mostly transport
>SEALs don't count

>>727152906
SWCC

>>727152815
Im 99% confident they do not check records though. I know you sign authorization but they just dont. I know of A LOT of people who are enlisted with me who shouldve been denied enlistement if it were true. Ive broken 7 bones before i joined and it didnt come up once. Most medical records old enough are purged anyways. If you saw a psychiatrist when you were 14 and you join 19 it likely wont be on your records.

>>727153066
OOHRAH
SEMPER FI

>>727152906
>What is FMF
>Riverines
>IA
>SWCC
You're an idiot.

>>727153138
rah debble dug untied status marin crops

It's not bad as people think
It's really dependent on your MOS, or rate if in Navy

I was a hospital corpsman in the Navy and shit was cash

Felt like a civilian job if you're at port

If you deploy in a carrier it's still cash, and pulling into port in SE Asia is badass, Thailand was awesome

Did my 4, went to school, got a masters, commissioned as a PA, and I have my own quarters on ship, don't have to wait to use the bathroom on deployment, and pay is great on the brass side of things

Tell your friend these tips
>if there's a bonus for a specific rate or MOS, don't do it
>don't go AO in navy, or cook, or join anything with subs
>sublife is shit

>>727153119
Idk if they do, just telling you of the papers you sign.

>>727153119
head that a few times
people get away with all types of shit

>>727153203
Were you ever at Portsmouth?

>>727149529
Bad idea
i put a 9mm to my head within 2 years in my dorm room
USAF, 3P0X1
life sucks ass

>>727153273
still here tho
>should've pulled the trigger you weak minded faggot

>>727153273
You guys call it a dorm room?

>>727153273
shit

>>727153328
yeah had a room to myself and shared a kitchen life is easy

>>727153325
Glad you're alive

>>727153273
We got a guy who didnt show up to work on a Monday after the weekend and nobody could find him so they ended up going to his room and walked into his bathroom. Dude hung himself. Another kid took his m16 into the portapotties or whatever the fuck you call them and shot himself right in the head. The instructors had to see that shit after everyone heard it. Another dude tried hanging himself in front of me with those oval bead rope things that pull up and down curtains. Although he was just doing it for attention.

>>727153184
it's a troll dumbass

>>727149529
Full metal jacket.

>>727153517
well...

>>727153613
Yep

>>727153633
Not trying to one up anyone. Just thought id share some stories as well haha

>>727153517
>mfw haven't even seen combat yet
KEK'D. Snowflakes will remain snowflakes.

>>727153684
glad you did
truth is power

>>727153517
had a guy devoted to this bitch, was a cuck, gave dudes money to take her out cause he worked in the field. One day while he was at a MAF she took EVERYTHING, transfered titles with his truck, wiped accounts ALL things.
This dude texted her one day and said he loved what she did and wanted her to go get filled up and then come over and make him do whatever with how ever many dudes cum was in her.

I'm gonna post a serious reply cause im drunk.

Honestly, no. I joined with pure optimism, full of motivation and lots of heart. The reality you will likely taste as an enlisted is nothing like that. Your chain of command wont have your back, they are typically weak. Your job will likely suck. Your living arrangements will be bare minimum. Your benefits will be hard to actually use. You will lose most of your connections. Medical attention wont be constantly available. Food will be slightly beneath prison food depending where you are. Your "friends" will snitch on you. You will probably get stuck cleaning or standing 12+ hour watches.You will get paid the same as a mcdonalds employee but spend way less on drugs. Booze will likely be your only outlet, but don't forget that will also get you kicked out.

If you can handle all of that at minimum, then you might be able to consider joining this bullshit. Otherwise, just go to fucking school, faggot.

>>727153712
Marines?

>>727153782
This guy doesn't know jack shit about the military. Pay depends on rank you stupid faggot and you get benefits to the max i.e. basic housing. Just shut the fuck up man. My buddy is making 40 k a year as an e-3 with benefits and all.

>>727153761
he surrounded himself with flowers and photos and just like everything he had to do with her and then shot himself in the chest/neck/head area and she found his body. Worst thing ive ever seen

>>727153761
WTF FUCK HER MAN. I live in a city which ONLY consists of married females to Marines. Ive tried hooking up with 2 girls and both times they lied and were married. I hear so many stories like yours (just without the cuck) and i just wanna fucking slaughter these bitches. Fucking dependos..

I'm in the navy myself and I can say it's done loads for my self esteem. It's generally a harder job than anything I did as a civilian but you're generally pretty proud of the work you do even if you don't flaunt it. The biggest hurdle will be getting through basic training, I found most people who get out so it then and often come out miserable as they feel like they couldn't "even make it through basic"

>>727153916

>>727153897
no hes fucking NOT
E-3 is A1C and they make 1700 a month I KNOW because i was one. thats 20.4k a year
You're a faggot and have no idea what youre talking about.

>>727153951
you ever been depressed?

>>727153782
Part of the military is the suck. I guess i knew that going in and i knew it would suck and thats why i wanted to join. It currently does suck, but i dont see my life any better if i hadnt joined. Im glad i did.

>>727154013
Shut the fuck up you dumbass. You don;t know jack shit about the pay on ship opposed to pay on soil. basic housing gives you money which you can exploit. Go kill yourself.

>>727149529
Is joining worth it?

I'm doing pretty shit in school, have no clue what I want to do with my life, and really depressed.

>>727154110
I fucking love 4chan

Don't do anything to get away from something else.

If you play video games to get away from the fact you have no social life, that is a negative thing. If you play video games because you enjoy video games, that's positive.

Sort out the depression first, join the military if it is a passion, not a way out. It's a life changing decision with a lock-in contract, not a decision to be made in anything but your right state of mind.

>>727154180
How old are you? Im in the military. so i can answer some questions

>>727154180
Yeah cunt. But you have to be fit as fuck though. And not a bitch

>>727154180
Military is friendly and fucked up, read some entries

>>727154306
no u don't. Just be physical and smart. Go into intel also.

>>727153273
Security Forces.. not even once

>>727154046
Yea when I was younger I had some pretty serious bouts of depression, I joined later than most people (I was 25) and found it tough but it kept getting better. The toughest part is being away from my kids all the damn time but if I didn't have them to worry about I'd be laughing

>>727154273
19

I want to join just to do something with my life since I was planning on taking a break from school to get my life straightened out. I feel like only working isn't enough when I can be taking advantage of Military benefits and whatnot.

Wouldn't care if I died tomorrow, so I might as well go out helping others if its needed

Chairforce fag here.
If anything the fucker would be better suited to lighter jobs like finance or mpf jobs. Maintainers would rip him a new one. We have a brony in our shop and the dude is being made fun of pretty heavily.

>>727154428
No dont go intel. Intel fucking blows. Unless youre a linguist. Youre set if you do that.

>>727154494
Air force ain't shit
and I'm subbed to Marine Bronies

Flaming Joker

>>727154494
Josh Scortcher

Real Marine
Real Brony

>>727154013
Yeah, 20K straight into the bank - at a minimum. That's not including AIP, COLA, BAH, BAS.. I know guys who have saved up 60K plus.

>>727154466
I joined when i was 19 and im glad i did. The military WILL suck. Especially at first. Get all of your opinions that it is glorified and awesome out of your mind. You will not see any glory when youre hiking 20 miles in humid ass weather up a fucking mountain, nor will you see the glory when youre on a working party painting rocks (yes, really). The best part of the military is traveling and meeting people, but even that gets old. I personally like how much it sucks because its made me a better person. Your depression seems like its coming from not being fulfilled and the military might be able to fix that. If you do join, dont just join the branch that you see first or the first recruiter you talk to. DO NOT join the Marines or Army because you think theyre badass. If thats why you want to join either of those branches then forget about it, your enlistement will suck x100 because you will be disappointed. Im in the Marines so im a bit biased but i would prefer Marines over Army any day. I also went to an Army military school so i know the difference between the two.

Lastly, if you join, do NOT settle for any job. Get a job that will set you up afterwards -- Aviation, medical, intel, Data, etc.

>>727154889
Best dam advice
i fucking love devil dogs

>>727154889
Navy and Airforce is pretty much the best way.

Downside with navy is that depending on your job, you may find yourself stuck on a ship for months with mostly guys. Uncle is retired Navy and told me to go Airforce.

Won't lie that the BMT is hard. Its a piece of cake and a waste of time. Just make sure you get a good job for your years in. Open mechanical will land you jobs like fucking crew chief, sheet metal, metals tech, or fuels. Don't let the preenlistment bonus fool you.

>>727149529
The Military can be seen as a function of culture or a culture by itself.

I've been heavily thinking about enlisting in the military. Im 18, and have a hard time living a normal life due to my heavily nihilistic views. Feel free to ama, is this a good idea anon?

>>727153897

>my friend is

I'm an active duty service member in the navy you fucking cock sucking colon nugget. Your "buddy" is at most married to be making above 27k a year as an e-3. E-4 (requiring a minimum of 2 years service or college experience) is the lowest rank you can possibly be to make above fucking dirt (30k a year) yet you sure as goddamn shit will work 12+ hours a day for it.

Embrace the suck if you want military, otherwise don't be fooled by chairwarrior cockmongers like these who think just cause their imaginary friend fought in 'the cold war they know what military is actually like. Stick to trap threads you ginormous flaming drag queen.

>>727155179
Military Family
love it

>>727149529
>Is joining the military with depression a bad idea?
really easy way to get kicked out

>>727155179
Yep, my brother and sister were both marines and told me to go Airforce. I knew the Marines would suck and it wasnt a pride thing, but i wanted the same experience as them. I would probably be better off had i joined the Air Force, but im making the most out of this experience. I would recommend Airforce or Navy to someone wanting to join, but usually if theyre considering Marines or Army they are already in that sort of mentality and set on it.

join do 3 years quit become freelance merc, profit.

>>727155267
I love how you're angrily typing at a random number

>>727155247
Read what i just posted >727154889

>join navy life's perfect
>got special warfare contract
>gain 20lbs in boot camp, it's a joke
>drop out of dive school because boot camp made me lose stamina
>get a shit rate and go to a carrier
>get in trouble a lot
>some bitch leaves me
>got in trouble some more
>got kicked out with a general discharge and make more money in a week than I did in a month in the Navy.
FTN

>>727155247
correction >>727154889

>>727155358
Marines make you tough as hell

>>727155466
Nice what was your civilian job?

>>727155395

Holy shit what is reading comprehension for 200 Trebek

>>727153897
>basic housing
>benefits to the max
pick one

>>727155547
Ive gotten very desensitized and cold since i joined. I cant speak for the other branches but a normal day at work is really like an hour on 4chan. I remember reading this article outloud http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/01/health/teen-suicide-cyberbullying-trnd/ at work and my coworkers started laughing at parts of it. Its really fucked up but thats kind of how Marines need to succeed in that environment

>>727155487
Can you choose to stay for certain amounts of time in the forces? If yes, please explain a bit

>>727155784
my brother was a Marine
he is 4chan

>>727155552
I'm a prostitute now. That's all the Navy trained me to do is suck dick, kiss ass, take it up the ass and beg for more

>>727155822
Different branches have different "time in service" or TIS. I know that Navy is 3,4, or 5 years depending on your job and Marines is 4 or 5 years. I cant speak for the others. Dont forget about puddle pirates either (coastguard)

>>727149529
Mm depends show me your your war face pussy

>>727155894
honestly haha lots of gay people in the military. Didnt know that till pretty recently

>>727155967
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGVGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>727154792
And i earn $120K plus with no chance of a bullet through my skull

>>727155873
Its true

Jesus, reading this thread makes me realize I dodged a fucking bullet by not joining up. I'd say don't join the military if you have any kind of mental or emotional issues. You should only join if it's something you would do even if you were in a good spot in life. Like even if you had a good job and a house, a car and friends and all of that shit, you would still join because it's what you WANT to do-- to echo what the other guy above said, don't join just to get away from life, or away from yourself. You'll still be the same person... potentially even worse.

I don't have the link, but there are a few studies that show that joining the mil, even if it's a non-combat role, has a negative effect on your agreeableness. Veterans are paid less than their non-veteran counterparts in most industries, though in sales they get paid more. There's a reason why VA is such a big deal.

>>727154239
Some people will only be motivated to get their ass into gear once they're forced, for the first time, into a situation where there is no comfort and there is no escape. I agree that people should think carefully before joining, but I know that for me, being shoved so far out of my comfort zone was the only thing that would make me grow as a person, and it's exactly what everyone avoids.

Navyfag here almost out, don't let him go subs thats a bad idea

>>727156011
There's gonna be even more because the Navy pays for hormone replacement therapy. And we expect these people to fight wars

good deal on being willing to serve, under your circumstances I;d advise against it,mental illness is poorly understood,unpredictable in side effects esp with the numerous vaccines you will get, duress of battle,more likely these days is NO enlistee will be told 'you are a noncom', you'll be told to assume you will do combat service train for that no matter what the avsbts show you qualify for, you will crosstrain in every area of your unit,cooking signals & com,ordinance spec, no matter what,chemical and biological agent exposure can increase anti depressant meds xx fold,
your buds,when the call gets 50 of you on 24 hr notice you are due to board a plane with all gear,your soljah men need you to respond,via verbal hand signals,earpieces quickquickquick,your muscles nerve and brain have to respond timely to combat condidtions,

>>727156135
My brother and sister both joined and thats what it took to get them out of their comfort zone. They both got a lot more confident and sure of themselves.

>>727156097
completely agree i became a mercenary the moment i got kicked out only after my daughter was born i got my emotions back now i work on computers.

>>727156189
Yep, I got a bried a few months ago talking about how theyll pay for treatment now and if any of us are interested "we know who to talk to." Now Navy and Air Force, okay i guess its understandable as they have little chance to be in combat roles (still i dont think the military should be the ones paying). But Marines and Army?????

>>727156262
What the fuck is this gobbledegook? What unit were you in where they crosstrained the shit out of you on everything and told their POGs to be combat ready? Something like 2/3rds of the army is just infantry.

If he's got depression and relies on others in his life for support, boot will be extremely hard for him. If he doesn't rely on anyone, he might be able to get through it. If there's any medical record with depression, he won't get past MEPS and DoD won't take him at all.

Military in general is not good for depression.

>>727156398
"Language that is meaningless or is made unintelligible by excessive use of abstruse technical terms; nonsense"

>>727156135
I've considered that. But to be honest, I don't really do authority by sake of necessity well. If I respect them, then yeah.
Shit, when I was a kid, my parents would tell me I had to sit at the table until I did my homework, so I went and got my pillow, sat at the table, laid my pillow down, and rested.

>>727156391
Yeah but in the Navy where will these Trannys be sleeping on the ships? You get the controversy. Normal people already get "hazed" enough and bitch about it. Just imagine these hormone induced raging faggots someone says 1 offensive thing that is a joke and the faggots get them sent to NJP

>>727156686
Yea thats another thing to think about. They will be miserable; a bunch of alph males picking on a beta dude who decided he wants to be a girl... FUCK no. Theres gonna be so many more problems

>>727156835
But see the military thinks they can tell everyone that it's not nice to judge others and to not say bad words and everything will be rainbows and sunshine just because dudes watched a PowerPoint and now they have dude with dicks and tits sleeping in the same berthing as them and these gay dudes can grow their hair as long as they want but normal ass men can't grow a simple ass fucking beard because of uniform standards

>>727156618
It depends on the branch. In the Army, basic training for combat arms MOSes and non combat arms are very different (at least when I was in). In a combat arms MOS, they have you broken down by only a few weeks to the point where you'll jump if you even suspect a drill sergeant is nearby. They're specifically trained to deal with 18-21 year olds who think they're king shit of fuck mountain.

No it should increase the likelihood of you killing yourself you do anything for money follower statist fuck

>>727157154
I am in no way shape or form the king of anything other than my physical body, and shit. I'm not even the king of my own mind.
Plus, I'd absolutely not get past MEPS. I'm physically horribly unfit.

>>727149529
He's going to be broken down and made to feel like shit his first 8 weeks. I've seen dudes get sent to Wilford Hall in the first 2 days because they couldn't take it.

Get his head right first.

>>727149529
I'm actually in the same position. I was going to join the army last year, to try to pay for college. I can't recommend it, but I do think it's possible for me at least.

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>>727149529
The military is filled with loser shit bags from the midwest and south with ghetto urbans thrown in to the mix.

Your friend sound like a perfect fit. I live in San Diego and we are infested with Redneck military losers.

pic: Jason King Marine shit bag loser from the south.

I just did my 4 years in the Navy. I've always had depression. Some days are good. Some days are terrible but it's nothing a person can't handle. Thoughts and actions can be controlled. Situations cannot.

>>727158825
if you dont mind me asking, was your depression ever documented before you joined?