I've always wondered since nobody here ever talks about

everyone gets equal rights regardless of sexual orientation. feminism should be this

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>>726910648
Wrong.
Feminism is female-supremacy under the guise of "equality".
Rather, they're lying and gaslighting in attempts overthrow men.

https://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw

Here's the effects of feminism in a nutshell.

>>726911426
her front looks like her back

>>726911536
>18 minutes of Elliot Rodger bullshit
fuck off with that

>>726910401
First Wave feminism

>>726911994
was a mistake

>>726911032
No doubt. He's saying what feminism should be, not what it is.

Fascism is what it is right now.

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>>726911930
It's true tho.

>>726911994
Watch >>726911536
Giving women the right to vote was a mistake.

Feminism is a sub section of communism.
It's designed to destroy the family and therefore ruin the culture.

>>726912183
> Giving women the right to vote was a mistake

Nah it wasn't. Giving them the right to vote while reinforcing their roles as second-class citizens was a mistake.

If everyone had just been equal from the beginning, this shit wouldn't be going on. Now the slaves want to be the masters and they can vote for whoever tells them what they want to hear.

Feminism is cancer

>>726912550
Thank you!

This is fact; take for example the sexual revolution of the 60s. Ever since then, the divorce rate have skyrocketed and still is rising.

>>726912561
Wrong. We don't.
Too much to type, but watch this instead:
https://youtu.be/wiESisEL43c

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>>726910401
Modern Feminism is Marxism to destroy the family unit and make people hate Western Civilisation.

>>726912561
People aren't equal. A woman isn't a man and a man isn't a woman.
There is no reason for women to have a vote. Women having a vote means politicians can pander to the needs of the individual instead of the family, which is the only societal unit that actuallt furthers civilization.

>>726913153
Agreed. Women make different choices because naturally it's how they are. They merely have a different role in society than men.

>>726913068
This video here addresses the wage gap myth.

>>726913362
> Women make different choices because naturally it's how they are
We don't know that, though. There's too much culture in the way. While there are obvious physical differences, and I'm sure there mental differences, it's seems unreasonable to expect they'll map cleanly to anyone's preconceptions about feminine and masculine roles, either. That's just projecting expectations based on no real evidence.

Feminism as the idea of making society more egalitarian between the sexes is fantastic. Feminism as a means to belittle men for their sex is saddening.

>>726913705
Women are not equal. They're causing enough problems as it is already. See >>726911536

Im all for equality of both sexes, but modern feminism is more about hating men than wanting equality

>>726914262
Females are inherently different from men. We are not equal because we're made for different purposes. See >>726911536

I find feminism more than useless in western culture in 2017.
Feminism in the middle east? Yeah probabaly a good idea.
If we talk about original feminism that fought for females being able to vote / work etc. Not about feminism that complains about manspreading or mansplaining.
That said, I'm a woman myself.

>inb4 tits or gtfo
No fuck off mate.

>>726913688
Women vote strongly for socialism, social programs, more taxation, less freedom because they want safety which is no longer provided by a husband.
It's not like feminism actually made women equally peoductivr to men.
Feminism has removed the need for a husband, replacing the husband with welfare.
As it stands women are still dependent on men because men pay far more in taxes. They just don't have to give anything back.

>>726913688
>Too much culture in the way
Man you're fucking crazy if you believe this. The physical and mental differences are so obvious you are deluding yourself by thinking culture changes things drastically.

Almost as many girls play soccer as boys but girls still suck at soccer. Beyond just being weaker they make terrible decisions and just basically suck at every aspect of it. Soccer isn't a big deal but the different aspects of the game like spacial awareness and leadership are useful in real life. As much as people try to change the culture and make women's sports a big thing, women will never be as good as men at these sports.

Now if you are biologically better at different things then it makes sense that you will make different choices about what you do in life. It would be retarded not to. Narrative bullshit can't trump reality.

>>726914812
> less freedom

Actually the socialist states are more free.

>>726914689
Nope. I say women aren't meant to work or have the right to vote. They're going to destroy our civilization.
See>>726911536
And >>726913068

>>726914932
>leadership are useful in real life.

How is this

>>726915217
Could be useful for all those CEO positions feminists want women to hold 50/50

>>726914812
You're drawing biological conclusions on the basis of cultural differences. How do you extract the social and find the innate, natural, biological differences? You really can't, since there's no way to remove or escape culture.

>>726915293
Just maybe

>>726915310
So why would women and men in the same culture vote for different things and why does it match well from what we biologically expect from evolutionary psychology?

>>726914932
You quoted "too much culture in the way", and then went on discuss physical differences. So your argument is a complete fail.

>>726915131
> be norway
> get 50% income taxed
> hate speech and blasphemy is oulawed
> have to pay a booth every 30 mins or so when traveling outside of a city
> universities are melting pots where anybody can get in, so what is taught is reduced to the common denominator
> meaning you will not learn anything competitive
> meaning your diploma is worthless
> get taught marxist propaganda instead

>>726915310
You need to read, diverse that informant, and understand. You're just vomiting commie bullshit. You gotta think instead of just reacting.

>>726915468
You tell me some culture that makes this stuff impossible to discern then. I pointed out that despite extreme efforts to change the culture to encourage female sport, women are still terrible VB at it.

>>726915449
You really have no understanding of culture, do you? There isn't one uniform culture that everyone within a culture is exposed to. Culture has different expectations and roles for people of different status, wealth, jobs, and yes, sex. A man and a woman who grew up the same place will be treated differently.

>>726915310
I wanted to reply but he
>>726915449
Rekt you.
>>726915468
Him too.

Feminism is Cancer

>>726915630
And why do you think culture developed to treat men and women differently?

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>>726910401
I've always wondered since nobody here ever talks about it. What is your opinion on cartoons of faggot animals sucking each other off? Also, did Hitler do something wrong?

>>726915581
Damn spell check.
I've been in the trenches of this meme war for a good few hours. Someone provide cover fire while I run to the bunker for some rest.

>>726915581
> diverse that informant
Is that something about slicing snitches into many pieces?

>>726915732
Kek

>>726915630
In america the culture is the same with slight regional differences.
Even babies show behaviours typical to their gender.
Everything isn't a social construct.

>>726915630
>>726915714
Yeah shit, it's pretty obvious that biology comes before culture.

>>726915151
Well yeah, women weren't meant to. When humans only objective in life was to survive. Means more muscular humans (which are biologically men) go for hunting. While women get children and take care of the family.

Thing is, we don't have to hunt anymore.
I mean, I honestly don't care if I had a husband who earns the money and i just take care of the household.
But husband works for 8 hours. Household is done in an hour. What am I supposed to do for the other 7 hours?
I'd much rather go and work and support my husband and myself as well.

That also said, I live in a country where I, as a woman, am forced to work. By the government and society.

>>726915714
You seem to have a very deterministic view of evolution, whether biological or social. And that's a fundamentally ascientific view, because evolution isn't this great predictor. Evolution is random, and goes off on weird tangents. Some adaptations are successful, some are hindrances, but most just are.

Yes, there are physical differences between men and women. Some of which may have significant effects on social roles, but others may just be random digressions.

>>726915635
No, they just have a poor understanding of evolution. As do you, clearly.

>>726915618
"Extreme efforts"?

Sorry, Skinneresque social engineering really doesn't work. Culture has its own momentum, and is very hard to change in any significant ways. Throwing millions of dollars to support a sport, Section 8ing things, and so on doesn't really change things in any substantial way.

>>726915936
Are you fucked in the head? Are you saying sexual dimorphism is just random?

>>726915714
Because culture treats everything in different ways. Culture treats asians differently than black people.

>>726915834
> Everything isn't a social construct.
Didn't say it was. Stop reading your own preconceptions into my posts, and read what I said.

>>726916137
Was my point, yes.

>>726915905
Some 100 years of comfort do not trump 200.000+ years of evolution
Men are still better at providing than women.
Your job is to be a home-maker.
Children need a mother in their early life and a father. But they need their mother there for them.
Sending them off to be raised by the statw is not the answer.

>>726916149
> Are you saying sexual dimorphism is just random?
No, but how it manifests is very unpredictable -- there are very similar species with markedly different degrees of sexual dimorphism. And how exactly physical differences relate to culture is really hard to pin down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiESisEL43c

>>726916163
If they are different why wouldn't you treat them differently? Which is my point, men and women are different before you factor in "culture".

Fuck feminism.

Women belong in the kitchen

>>726916328
So what? We are talking about humans. Why do you get so hung up on culture when it comes to humans when you can readily identify differences between males and females in different species?

>>726916290
And what if I couldn't provide my children a decent life or a decent mother?
I'm terrible at handling kids, I'm way better at artistic stuff.
What if I can't get children biologically? (Which by the way, I can't.)
What if, my husband doesn't earn enough money at the beginning of us living together?

Should I not be allowed to even work at a bakery to earn £400 to support us?

>>726916328
It's very clearly outlined for all species. It's not hard to look at any species and see how males and females evolved.

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>>726915647
What Anon meant to say is that feminism, while being a noble and valiant and courageous movement, there are certain schools of thought that are somewhat unwholesome. Right, Anon?

>>726916550
The answer to all those what ifs are you will not reproduce successfully and your genes will not be carried forward.That is unless you find some workarounds. Did you think anything else really mattered?

>>726910648
Wrong. This is not what Feminism should be. Feminism should not be. Feminism is itself a madly contradictory concept, no?

I would argue that feminism is the practical application of egalitarian ideals in the form of a movement. This movement clearly states that it seeks to improve the lives of Women.

If you want to practically apply egalitarian ideals to the real world, apply egalitarian ideals to the real world rather than applying egalitarian ideals but only specifically when they benefit females.

>>726916560
You're trivializing numerous fields of study, and showing complete ignorance about the complexities of evolution. We have theories on why males and females are different in many species, and some of those theories are well supported. But a lot of times, it's just speculation and in many cases it's a downright puzzle. As I said before, evolution is unpredictable. It's not steady progression toward a clear goal; that's 19th century Creationism. No, evolution is wild experimentation with unexpected successes, and favors reusing and building on existing characteristics instead of creating something new.

Culture is the same way. We have millennia if not meganna worth of traditions, and like many evolutionary characteristics many of the surviving traditions may just be traditions rather than anything that directly contributes.

>>726916550
Find a man that can provide, don't proliferate the genes of some beta that "if anything he'll be the one in the kitchen". This is what we are both made for, to attract the best possible mate.
You have instincts, you are programmed to be a mother regardless of what you think. The moment that bond forms when you first hold the baby makes all of those doubts go away.
If you want to have children there are workarounds.
Again, this is what the man is there for. He should bring the resources and you should worry about building a strong househols. Anything else is absurd.
What's that 400£ matter if your kid will grow up with strangers. It emotionally damages tge child to have parents absent from his life, only to see them in the morning and at night.

>>726916811
Have the case of myself right now.
I can not get pregnant. My hormones don't work properly.
Doctor already told me there are ways for me to still reproduce.
Thing is, all that is not for free.
My boyfriend gets £600/month of a studend loan.
Do you think he alone would be able to pay for all that alone?

>>726916899
Ok, but why did those traditions form and what has fundamentally changed in human biology that renders those traditions obsolete? I think all that has changed is things have got too comfy and if shtf woman will need to get real fast.

>>726917034
So you're implying that all children that went to kindergarden, are damaged now?
I didn't feel bad for being in a group of other children in my age in the morning while my mum went to work in a bakery.

>>726917042
Like I said, there could be workarounds but they are obviously harder than having genes well suited to survival. I don't give a fuck if your line dies out. Most lines do.

>>726916899
You are splitting hairs. You don't need a Phd in evolutionary biology to understand that meb and women are different and what those differences are.
You can even verify it. Traditional households were men provide and women tend, made of partners that have had a low amount of partners before marriage are the most succesful.

I'm in favor of leftist feminism and have mixed feelings about centrist/democrat feminism. I'm a 30 year old dude and feminism has only made my life better.

>>726917172
What you're saying is like a colorblind man telling me he doesn't miss red.
Society has obviously been affected by this, the nuclear family has been obliterated by feminism, divorce rates are trough the roof, women are less happy than they were half a decade ago, juvenile delinquency has also risen. Dysfunctional families are the norm.

>>726917241
Yeah Yeah, I get that. But those work arounds still require money. That's how life now works. With money. And money only.
And since that's the case, I don't see what's worng with women working.
As different as men and women may be, both want to have a decent life, with or without kids.

>>726917259
>successful
if by successful you mean raise lots of poor children without getting a divorce then yeah, but if you consider anyone's quality of life then fuck no, that's a miserable existence.

>>726917042
>Do you think he alone would be able to pay for all that alone?

I don't know, I guess we'll find out in 100 years if you're someone's ancestor. I wonder if they'll have to do the same hormone treatment? I don't like family's chance long term.

>>726917123
While culture is certainly slave to biology in some ways (if we didn't have language centers, we wouldn't have been able to develop writing, for instance), physical evolution clearly moves at a snail's pace compared to cultural shifts.

And most of those traditions are just noise or chaos, random variance. There's not a purpose behind most of it, and it's equally hard to trace things back to a biological differences.

And it gets even more complicated because humans regardless of physical sex, are incredibly flexible and adaptable.

>>726910401
>nobody here talks about it

Please lurk more.

>>726917532
>the nuclear family has been obliterated by feminism
the nuclear family was obliterated by real wage stagnation and then decrease.

>>726917558
Nice strawman.
>>726917543
Feminism created a divide between the sexes and made them compete with each other, which is to say completely unnatural.
it has efectively doubled the work force, allowing companies to pay less for more.
If women retake their rightful role as home makers the market will adjust.

>>726917704

it was obviously sarcasm, you autist

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>>726917817

>>726910401
post the gamestop one

>>726917543
I don't have a problem with women working. Someone else might be arguing that but not me.

>>726917710
Read
>>726917776

>>726917532
You're totally right, but that doesn't affect everyone negatively forever.
Sure a kid won't understand why Dad moves out now and why he/she is only gonna see Dad on weekends.
But I'm pretty sure that kid will also eventually understand why that happened.

I will admit, that's what I have seen so far. My parents aren't seperated or anything. Even though i feel like, they only didn't to not harm my brother and me.
But it actually pains me more to see that my parents arw drifiting apart but still force themselves to live with eachother

>>726917849

It's a Kim poster. Congrats on taking the bait.

Feminism for me is best captured by Clementine Ford. A bitter misandrist that functions in her little echo chamber spitting hate and vitriol and cannot be touched. She voiced her opinion against grid girls in the Formula 1, yet most girls voicing their outrage will never watch the fucking thing. FML.

>>726910401
good but most people dont actually know what it is, by definition and theory at least. kids on the internet make up their own rules about it and it becomes apologetic men and women wanting retribution for their ancestors mistreatment.

>>726917946
And the grid girls are getting a good deal that they are quite happy with. Just other women trying to tear them down smh.

Most of you thirteen year olds realize that most advocates of women's rights and gender equality look at 3rd wave Feminists as bastardizing what they worked hundreds of years for by turning it into a cult of "men are evil" cunts right?

That femininesm as it stands right now is a hate group and that's why it's decried, not because women don't deserve rights or opportunities?

>>726917924
>I baited you

Sure ya did champ. Mark another tally on the chalkboard mommy bought ya. ;)

>>726917259
So your argument is that we're a pair-bonding species. Men provide, women stay at home.

There's a fair amount of biological support for the first, but we've also seen an incredibly wide range of different sexual patterns across different cultures. It's a strong tendency, but it's certainly not a law.

The second premise is shakier, and can easily be explained as "Forget it, Jake. It's culture." Because while it's clear there was value in separation of roles among our hunter-gatherer ancestors, the reason why the male/female role split happened is probably because woman nurse children and so they ended up with the stay at home slot (along with secondary issues like men are more expendable because one man can impregnate 100 women but 1 woman can't have children with a 100 men). But our roles have changed, and how much of those roles are really rooted in biology? Clearly men are larger and stronger (particularly upper body strength, which helps with the very unique human ability to throw), and have some secondary related adaptations (like a better spatial sense). But humans are also half-adapted to a lot of things, and with a few exceptions (like pregnancy and strength), there's a lot of overlap between the two sexes. It's hard to take that, and draw conclusions about culture. And imposing rigid gender roles is counter to the basic human nature (we're natural generalists).

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>>726917896
It's not about understanding. It's about the irreversible trauma.
Kids that come from divorced households have an increased risk of criminality, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, personal dysfunction and many other things.
We are only now learning that women and men have been forming decade long relationships for a reason. For the children and future of society.
It's imperative that children have a stable household during their formative years.

>>726917663
But just because a culture is maybe not ideal does not mean we should do bullshit things like quotas to correct for the culture. Change the culture and see what emerges. Most feminists have this made up view that women are just as competent as men at everything once you remove culture so they come up with really stupid ideas to try and shape reality to their fantasy (while actually making things worse).

>>726918111
>never seen a Kim poster before

Sure is newfag in here

>>726918124
>We've seen different sexual patterns across different cultures
>Implying an African tribe isn't basically another species

>>726918288
I don't disagree with that. I think rigid gender roles are bad, regardless of whether they come from conservatives or progressives. We all, men and women, have this insanely complex and flexible brain, that can do all kinds of crazy things. Telling one sex they have to be this or that is just silly. Women physicists are fine, and so are homemakers. I believe in removing barriers and encouraging people in unexpected directions (say more women in STEM), but imposing quotas or telling a stay at home mother she's a traitor is also wrong.

>>726910401
I prefer masculism, its about equality for everyone regardless of gender or race but still holds to biological and mental differences. for example; it is not considered offensive to hold a door open for a woman, it is seen as polite. masculism also has no time for gender specific hate such as "manspreading" or "mansplaining" and encourages people to not be in constant competition to get one over on the other genders or races. it also discourages playing the victim, instead it encourages people to stick together to help each other out. it is against forcing categorisation by demonising specific groups for things that may have happened 100 or more years ago. it's against favouring specific groups for things that may have happened over 100 years ago. it's about now and what we can do with what we have and not about what we could have done when we didn't. the future is going to happen weather we like it or not and as long as we focus on the past we are wasting the future.
we don't have to be guilty for our ancestors mistakes to learn from them, we just have to learn from them.

tldr; feminism used to mean something, now it's cancer and needs a rebrand.

>>726910401

Feminism is exploiting women.

>>726918124
There are very clear consequences to disrupting these gender roles for a generalist species.
Just because some one iff tribes evolved differently doesn't mean americans africans and asians are gender fluid.
We have evolved this way and we have produced the most succesful civilizations because of it.

>>726918247
An increased chance doesn't necessarily mean it will happen.
Pretty sure there are different factors that influence that as well.
Example, how is the seperation handled?

Can you genuinely provide me a study that says a kid will be less damaged by parents that are obviously not happy with eachother anymore, that are constantly fighting than by a parents that divorce in a calm manner but still treat their kid in a loving way?
You're having the perfect family in mind. But the perfect family barely is a thing.

>>726918583
Very much disagree. The support for that is completely speculative, and even if it were well established the individual's right to choose their own life has to come first over some vague amorphous societal benefit.

And applying "gender fluid" to societies is ridiculous, and we weren't talking about shifting roles, just different roles in different societies, anyway.

>>726918583
imagine if this was a problem in the 40s?
"uh captain, I feel like I am actually a woman and you should treat me like one, but you have to treat me equal because equality only I deserve special rights to protect me from contributing like everyone else because I'm a minority"

captain: click "wut soldier"

>>726918511
I agree

>>726910401
Fuck feminism. Equality ftw.

>>726918807
Google it, I'm phoneposting.
The absence of a father or mother negatively impact the children regardless. They are more stressed, more prone to afflictions, they reach puberty earlier.
This isn't just about how your conscious mind judges events.
Your subconscious reacts, hormones are released that dictate the rest of your life.
>>726918820
Never said anything about forcing people, but you can't have your cake and eat it. You can't be a mother and a career woman.
Again why are your minority of tribes that evolved in different conditions than most of the world relevant to most of us.
Yes different people in different emvironments evolved differently. That doesn't mean we can go back.
We won't turn into petrol sniffing, highway sleeping abbos no matter how much we will it.

>>726918484
I agree with all of that. More freedom is good for everyone. Thats what I want but it's not what most women want. Freedom comes at the cost of risk and responsibility. Feminists want the opportunities of men without the risk
>>726914812
They want to make it on their own but they don't back themselves to be able to do it so they get the government to help them in everyway possible, fucking up freedom for everyone.

>>726919519
>Again why are your minority of tribes that evolved in different conditions than most of the world relevant to most of us.
>Yes different people in different emvironments evolved differently. That doesn't mean we can go back.
You're arguing that the success of Western civilization is due to the gender roles, but haven't provided a causal link. And while some parts are clearly more successful and others are less (households without a father have all kinds of problems), but that doesn't show that gender roles were the cause of Western civilization's success (or what specifically about those gender roles is important), and doesn't rule out other options.

>>726919519
sorry dude but my wife is a mother and a career woman and I raise our child. my son is doing exceptionally well in all aspects of his life and has not been effected by the stereotype role difference. she is an excellent mother and the way it is works perfectly for us. before she started chasing her career I was making a shit ton more than her but was happy to let her follow her dreams, now she earns more than I ever did.
the roles are irrelevant if done properly and the "shoulder chip" is removed.

>>726919889
Do tell me how women going to war and men staying home would've built the west. Or how children would have ever even survived a day without someone looking after them.
This is way the left is called regressive.
They're not even trying to re-invent the wheel, they're tearing it apart after the fact because it hurt mother nature.

>>726919583
>Thats what I want but it's not what most women want. Freedom comes at the cost of risk and responsibility. Feminists want the opportunities of men without the risk
I don't know about most women, but there is a nasty strain in feminism these days that is all about restricting opportunities for women, and enforcing rigid gender roles.

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Feminists mainly want to have their religion as islam. If we give it enough time, your local Habib will have helped taking down feminism.

>>726920176
the physical difference between men and women is not in dispute. men are better warriors. no one suggested otherwise. your extreme example is ridiculous because it proves nothing but your own ignorance.

>>726911709
it's called a frontbutt

>>726920176
That's a confused entirely different set of topics that has nothing to do with the post of mine your replied to.

>>726919959
You mean she's not a mother and you're not a man.
We'll see how growing up without a male role model shapes him.

>>726920513
are you thick? I am his male role model. just because my wife works does not make her any less female or a mother! just because I raise my son does not make me less of a father or a man.
if you are going to make such outlandish claims then please explain the reasoning behind your response because I am living this first hand and have actual experience and not some immature opinion based on "tradition".

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45% is not enough. 55% is getting there. When women hold 100% of positions we will finally have full equality.

>>726920340
>>726920475
> you're not actually saying western gender roles are reponsibile for western success
> well yes and here's why
> lmao you're ignorant dude how dare you say masculine traits have anything to do with their roles in society
Most of these ouliers you talk about evolved in areas with plentiful food and a lack of predators. Curious how environments without challenges shaped soft societies that are today irrelevant in world affairs.
>>726920876
Yes, he's learning how to be a real man and depend on women for survival, and when the time comes that this golden age ends, when men will have to pull their weight and the weight of others, he will be nothong but dead weight.
She is not a mother, you don't get to see your kid at sunrise, sunset and maybe in the weekends and call yourself a mother.
The only reason you are even able to do this is because of having the privilege of standing on the shoulders of strong men who came before you.
History is a cycle, this feeble society won't exist for much longer. Weak men don't make good times.

>>726921429
>the struggle is real

Finding pants that fit? I imagine so.

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Ultimate in equality: tits and dick

>since nobody here ever talks about it

Top fucking bait

Feminism use to be a good strong proud thing, for all women to have a say, to have they're voices heard.

Now all it's turned into is men hating dimes, who fight for the right to have disgusting amounts of body hair and to not be judged, to be fat lazy fucks, and not be judged.

It's a joke, it's cancer. Don't even get me started on BLM, more black on black crime than any other races on black crime.

>>726910401
supposedly for a good cause but then eventually turned to shit as they shift from asking for equality to just bitching about anything that doesn't have them at the top

>>726921326
wow you assume I encourage my son to rely on women? you also assume I rely on women? I am a mechanical engineer and earned 3 times what my wife did before we had a child, I don't need to rely on women I chose to trust in my wife enough to rely on her dedication to our family. thanks to her dedication to our family she has worked hard and is now in a position better than I was in.
so by your reasoning if you only get to see your child when your not working then you are not a parent? or is this only applicable to mothers? my wife just gets to have fun with our son, I handle discipline, education, health etc I have more of an alpha dynamic as the care giver than the financial provider as I make the rules and everyone follows them or the answer to me.
your problem is accepting this as an alternative dynamic, you seem to insist on one or the other (because you are clearly a child yourself and don't understand) and can't accept that either parent can adopt either role. did anyone say at any point all dad's should stay at home? all mothers should chase careers? no you assumed that based on your own idea that every mother should stay at home and every father should go out and work. you are a little baby who doesn't understand the real world, you definitely don't have children and if you do you are a really shitty parent because you are incapable of raising your own child and instead think it is "parenting" by throwing money at your child. you are uneducated on the subject you are so passionate about.

>>726910648
Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of equality. We're about as equal as we can be in a free society, so now it's just preferential treatment for women.

>>726913688
It's a mix of culture and biology. The danger is these days we're calling the biology sexist, and claiming any gender imbalance is the mark of injustice, and that it must be fixed and that we know exactly how to fix it. That is a series of leaping to conclusions.

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>>726910401
hi

>>726922328
beans face fap Jupiter?

>>726922456
Can I fist Uranus.

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>>726922456
can eye fist UR-Anus /

>>726922495
REALLY?

>>726922495
lol retard its obviously Aluminum eyelid hand planet

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>>726922540
yes kek

>>726922580
ahh now it all makes sense, thanks anon

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>>726922580
thats an old school tin can dummy. it's tin - ocular - manos - el'planeto'

>>726922119
I also hope you know how arrogant and ignorant it is for you, a man, to think you can ever do a woman's job better than her.
I'm not writing to convince you however, nobody could, you already chose this life, the cognitive dissonance must be fiercely strong as evidenced by your blogpost with no arguments.
I only hope to save othets from making the same mistake you made.

> you assume I encourage my son to rely on women
> I rely on my wife
Gee, fuck me if I know.

> only applicable to mothers
Yes you cuck, women raise children and men raise adults. We have evolved over millenia to do these jobs and no matter how much you cry, or virtue signal, or think you're better than women won't change it.

> think it's "parenting" by throwing money
You mean like your son's "mother" ?

> uneducated
Yeah man, hundreads of millenia of evolution, and ignoring that is just an educated decision.

>>726922580
Really? Never made the connection. Thanks Captain Obvious!

Supporting women's equality is something I support. It's hard to publicly say I'm a feminist though without getting lumped in with "those" feminists.

>>726910401
The word feminism on it's own is actually sexist, because it favors one sex over the other - so generally it's retarded

Equality - they deserve everything men have, including political and economic power. Living here in Asia I have discovered it is a level playing field - they hunt, jump, and dump men just like we do. Fair play. You wannbes can dream on.

>>726922699
you are going to be a shit parent one day. you have zero experience of the dynamic you fight against. I successfully live the dynamic and my family are flourishing, explain that?

I don't rely on her solely for survival as I stayed and you ignored. I am a mechanical engineer and can go back to doing that when ever I feel like it. you confuse relying on someone for survival and relying on someone's dedication to you. they are different.
my wife doesn't throw money at us she is a good mother who has a positive influence on our son but you as purely a financial provider claim it is the fathers responsibility to throw money at the situation, that is not parenting.
so your scenario only being applicable to mothers is fully ignorant and hugely immature.
>men raise adults
so daddy went to buy some cigarettes some years ago?
also are you implying my son will never become an adult?
you did not think any of this through did you?

>uneducated
yes

>>726911536
I'm convinced.
Any videos on ways to fight back which hopefully don't sum down to "haha spread the word!"
I'm finding that people only pretend to open up to radical ideas... they joke about rape and such but if anyone tries to show the shitstorm of feminism, it seems 1 in 5 guys (in America) will drown it out as "wow just shut up no one cares"

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>>726923296
> you're gonna be a shit parent for doing things that are tried and true and not being a regressive cuck like me

I'd stop but thid is just top good, having a cuck frothing over his keyboard is better than porn.

> I am able but unwilling
The ideal male role model right here

> throwing money
Women are simply better at developing kids emotionally and men are better at raising them to be mature when the time is right.
This is ingraned in our very beings, no matter how much you want to feel like less of a cuck.

> daddy
No

> are you implying my son will never become an adult
> hurr kids grow bigger betcha didn't think of that now did you
> what is personality, what is nurture
I'm certain of it, with a reality denying cuck like you.

>uneducated
He says as he denies evolutionary biology

Out of curiosity, did your wife find a cuck cage small enough for you ?

>>726924130
the only victory over that cuck would land you in prison. Such is modern life
I'd place a wager on his wife's infidelity

>>726924130
ha ha your insecurity is strong (how many times did you just type cuck?)

your tradition based views are great for the masses who are incapable of making decisions for themselves.
tradition is what we used to do before we knew better.
you are are on par with religious fenati...... wait... damn.
you are religious aren't you?
your traditions you butt fuck are religion based. you do what you are told because the bible told it that way.
there is not a shred of scientific research that proves your point and there will never be.
you shouldn't be so angry because I have the ability to create my own non traditional dynamic and be more successful than your religion based dynamic (because religion is notorious for good ideas).
my son will have a much better life than any child who is unfortunate enough to be raised by a fuck up like yourself, perpetuating fucked up views that have no place in the modern world. you belong in the past. it won't be long before your kind will be bundled in with the flat earth's and holocaust deniers.

don't bother replying, I'm going to pick my wife up from work then we're going out to enjoy the sun as a family.

I hope you one day learn to accept alternate views may be more successful than your own.

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>>726924762
It's pretty certain. I'm sure every woman's dream is to provide for a fat fuck that does nothing she couldn't do better while being praised for her "strength and independence".

>>726925044
> insecurity
It bothered you enough to point it out, is your cuck cage getting rattled ?

> we're a modern progressive family, not part of the barbaric masses dumb enough to think 200k millenia of evolution has any bearing on reality
> by the will of our intellect alone we will rewrite our dna

Top stuff mate. This is why I cancelled my cable sub.

> endless fedora tipping
I have an IQ of 135 and I'm probably half your age you dullard.