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These pictures were supposedly taken somewhere between Iceland

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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These pictures were supposedly taken somewhere between Iceland and Jan Mayen in March 1971 trough the periscope of the american military submarine USS Trepang, classification number SSN 674, which, at the time was on a routine military and scientific (whatever that means in a military context) mission.
The man on the periscope was called John Kilika, he was the first to spot them, although the man actually taking the pictures is unknown.
They were made available to the public by researcher Alex Mistretta, who in turn got them from an anonymous european source.
The source claimed that there were the following notes on the back of one of the pictures:
“Official photograph. Not to be released. CT.”
and
“Unauthorized Disclosure Subject. Security Certificate SSN 674. Criminal Sanction.”

I am not making any statements about what these things could be.
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Oh shit
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commie torpedoes
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>>726728947
aliens
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>>726728947
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage)
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>>726728947
No they weren't faggot.

We are alone in the universe. Do you hear? ALONE.

The fact our species evolved as it did is an astronomical anomaly in a universe filled with possibility.

We're it. There isn't any one else. Stop making shit up. Stop pretending there is anything but our birth, our lives and death.

I mean, OP. I fucking mean it.
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OP here,
OK anons have at it. What the fuck!
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Any conspirators fags wanna take a shot at these?

Also can any shoopfags confirm not CGI or something?

Never heard of these before, but I am interest
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>>726729417
>>726729361
winrar
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>>726729404
You are incredibly stupid
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>>726729361
These look nothing like that
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>>726729535
you shut the fuck up
science is on my side

fuck you and your fantasies
you're no better than christians
or muslims
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>>726728947
I dunno, looks like a cruise missile-type thing to me.
The germans used those in the 1940s (the V1), so I wouldn't be surprised if they were around in 1971.
Maybe it was cruising way too low.
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>>726728947
Looks like a low altitude barrage balloon of some kind.
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>>726729602
I might agree, mirages happen on a narrow area above a horizon. And they look heavily distorted and blurred, these look pretty sharp and have detail.

Don't know what to feel.
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>>726729602

Say's you
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>>726729602
The first image does faggot
the rest is you throwing turds in your mom's above ground pool.
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>>726729404
>we're the only ones ever
>universe full of possibility

Is this bait? This feels like bait.
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>>726729602
the ones that are obviously fake do not. 1st and 2nd in this thread do
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>>726729682
Science has the Drake equation....

>trying to sound smart but failing (You)
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>>726729768
The possibilities were limited, faggot.
lrn2comprehension
man evolved that's it
one species in an entire universe
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>>726729361
OP here,
never heard of that. I knew the hive mind of /b/ would come up with an explanation
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>>726729805
>mathematics

you can "prove" that an object never hits a table, either, faggot

There's nothing out there, and even if there were, it couldn't reach us.
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>>726729404
wow are you god?....cos you sure have all the answers
>stop everything boys, we got professor universe here
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>>726729932
The fact that we exist is a near impossibility. We are literally the only example in the universe.
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>>726729682
science isnt on your side lol read a book
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>>726730133
goddammit fuck you
this thread is OVER
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>>726730166
Okay...
So I win with the cruise missile thing?
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>>726730041
>literally
prove it
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>>726729914
you know like every scientist are saying that it is impossible to think of that we are alone.
but you definitely know it better
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>>726730133
>>726730258

Humanity may be alone in the Universe

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/06/21/humanity-may-be-alone-in-the-universe/#547df44642e4
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>>726730166
You're over, you euphoric NEET


>"I am the product of my enlightenment" -you
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>>726730293
not agreeing with you but ive always wondered if the universe was empty, and it was ours to explore and populate
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>>726728947

wow!! pics of the Flying Benis!
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>>726730293
I personally don't trust anything from Forbes, but that's just me>>726730293
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>>726730289
>

The step of abiogenesis -- where the raw ingredients associated with organic processes actually become what we recognize as "life" -- needs to occur.
Life must survive and thrive for billions of years on a planet in order to evolve multicellularity, complexity, differentiation and what we call "intelligence."
And finally, that intelligent life must then become a technological civilization, either gaining the ability to announce its presence to the Universe, to reach out beyond its home and explore the Universe, or to reach the stage where it can listen for other forms of intelligence in the Universe. Or, more optimistically, all three.

When Carl Sagan originally presented Cosmos in 1980, he claimed it was reasonable to give each of these three steps a 10% chance of succeeding.
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>>726730041
Are you serious or trolling? I can't tell.
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>>726730041
>literally
my lord youre young
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>>726730441
We've barely made it off this planet, and we're about to destroy ourselves through misuse of technology.

We won't be exploring shit.
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>>726730460
I don't give a fuck what you "trust," read the fucking information.>>726730467
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>>726730598
If you won't read, I won't read
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>>726730293
an ARTICLE doesnt prove anything. its just someones theory. you can not prove that aliens dont exist. there is a chance they exist somewhere thou. so they probably do exist, because you dont even realize how big the universe is.
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>>726730598

God you're fucking butt hurt, how the fuck did you get this way?

No wonder you're gonna die alone with that fucking attitude
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>>726730480
>>726730491
refute the argument faggot

"The underlying problem is complexity. Even the simplest bacterium is, at the molecular level, staggeringly complex. Although we have no idea of the minimal complexity of a living organism, it is likely to be very high. It could be that some sort of complexifying principle operates in nature, serving to drive a chaotic mix of chemicals on a fast track to a primitive microbe. If so, no hint of such a principle has been found in laboratory experiments to re-create the basic building blocks of life."
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>>726730467
just too bad that the marsrover shows bones and current lifeforms but nevermind
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>>726730646
I have read things. That's how I grew the fuck up and stopped believing the universe is full of spacefaring aliens.

It isn't.
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>>726730293
The abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence.

The universe is too damn big to know for sure, and it is incredibly arrogant and naive to believe we are all there is.
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>>726730719
JESUS CHRIST REFUTE THE GODDAMMED ARGUMENT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT
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>>726730757
No it doesn't you conspiracy faggot
go melt a steel beam and shove it up your ass
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>>726730783

>I have read Richard Dawkins

Doesn't count, edgelord
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>>726730800
Shut the fuck up. There is no evidence that anyone other than us exist. We've examined space noise, redshifts, everything. There's just too much consistency. We. Are. Alone.
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>>726730872
>no it doesn't
>insulting

that is how you lose in a debate
faggot
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>>726730896
You believe the skygod shit, that's part of your problem.
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>>726730293
maybe isnt proof you retard
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>>726731022
THAT IS THE FUCKING PROOF.
SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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>>726730480
of course hes trolling lol
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>>726730690
Not even a theory.
Just a hypothesis.
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>>726731010
>debating on 4chan
you both "lost" here, faggots.
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>>726731078
So we are stuck. Life may indeed pop up readily in Earthlike conditions, or it may be a fluke, unique in the observable universe. Because we are a product of this cosmic accident, we cannot conclude that Earth is typical. No statistical evidence can be drawn from a sample of one.
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They're Naval test balloons. They use them for RADAR tests as well as target practice.
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>>726730818

Lol, you fucking niggers are all the same "REFUTE DA ARGAMENT" all you did was post a shitty Forbes article... you do NO WORK, by being expect us to work to refute your simple, uneducated, and unreasonable claim which contained no mathematics, statistics or "science" (which apparently is on your side, though you didn't use any) in the first place. You need to chill and get laid, lvl99 virgin wizard
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>>726731094
Especially if he's OP.
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>>726731064
If you dont know what proof means how am I suppose to trust you about your opinions
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>>726731133
>shitty Forbes article

refute the argument dipshit
it's SOLID.
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>>726731114
Well, that settles it.

It's over, /b/uddy/b/ros, pack up and go home.
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>>726731169
Refute the arguments made in the link I posted. Your last chance.
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>>726730732
so? do you even understand what this says? its completely irrelevant to the topic
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>>726731196
Knew boats had penises somewhere
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>>726729404
You sound like a really boring individual. Like a dull normie who does fantasy football and wears a name tag at work.
You should probably kill yourself.
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>>726731187
Refute the Drake equation then
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>>726731232
It says that it's highly unlikely that an advanced civilization exists outside of Earth, let alone a space faring one.
Learn to read faggot.
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>>726731222
trips doesnt even save your pathetic argument
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>>726728947
Those look like zeppdlins toll me
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>>726731287
You're boring. You expect us to believe that someone throwing shit into the ocean=UFOS.
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>>726731297
its highly unlikely that we as life exists at all, your point?
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>>726731300
REFUTE THE FUCKING ARGUMENT
DO NOT REPLY TO ME AGAIN
UNTIL YOU FUCKING DO
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>>726729404
sounds correct to me.
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>>726731366
Yes. From all available evidence, we are a fluke that is not likely repeated anywhere else.
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>>726731389
giving orders on /b/<
Fuck you, I do what I want.
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>>726731114
They are boatcocks. They fuck up into other boats and make little baby boats.
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>>726729404
I don't necessarily believe that there humanoid life-forms like us, but do you actually believe there is no life anywhere else? No organic, living matter anywhere?
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>>726731389
Or what?

You gonna super havk my doxxors? Pathetic child
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>>726731389
>capslock
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>>726731294
It's refuted in the FUCKING ARTICLE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
SHUT THE FUCK UP
SHUT THE FUCKING HOLY FUCKING GODDAMMED THE SHITFUCK UP FAGGOT
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OP theres apparently a video of this too eh
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>>726731389
caps doesn't make you any smarter mate are you making up for low self confidence?
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>>726731425
not likely *** so you arent certain, thats my point retard haha
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>>726731495
somebody getting a little upset? :(
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>>726731495
U mad scibro
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>>726731590
A lot more certain than you are.
You're just making shit up. Science is actually on my side.
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>>726731495
since when did "maybe" become a source to cite as fact lol?
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OP here.
/b/ can't agree on anything anymore.
I post a weird story and pics from Quora looking for a possible answer and it turns into a SHOUT festival.
typical, I am going with the mirage or Naval Test balloon theories, although I fail to see why the pics would be marked "not to be released"
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>>726731495
>SHUT THE FUCK UP
>literally your only "argument."

You lost. Go whine on some other board.
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>>726731649
Science doesn't take sides retard
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>>726731649
but you arent 100% certain, and could never be. You refute yourself when you say things that arent 100%
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>>726731610
some body definitely smacked his books to the floor at school today, spit in his lunch and flattened his nose on the way home
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>>726731389
We dont have to, youre a retard.
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>>726731663
Because we had this thing called "Soviets" back then, OP. They were our enemies. And it takes a fuckton of years to declassify anything.
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>>726729404
>>726731495
>>726731389
>>726730467
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>>726731744
Sounds like it, now he's threatening kind folks on an image board to smash his hypothesis or else
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>>726731809
GODDAMMIT IT'S NOT MY HYPOTHESIS
IT IS ACCEPTED MODERN DAY SCIENCE
WE ARE ALONE
THERE IS NO FUCKING LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE OR WE WOULD HAVE DETECTED IT BY NOW GODDAMMIT
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>>726730041
>>726729815
>>726730166
You sound upset. You also sound like you don't have any friends

>If there's a god, how come noone loves me?
I bet you ask yourself this a lot.

Only one species huh? In the whole universe. Wow. That's something. Especially simce there are millions of different species on earth alone, not to mentio billions of microbes and germs that we've studied not only on this planet, but on meteors, space, and the martian surface.

But yeah, no, we'll go with your pseudo-intellectual argument that in a universe with "unlimited possibility" as you ironically put it, us humans are the only one in it.
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>>726731890
thats what we here call an opinion son
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>>726728947
Fake and gay
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>>726731890
No it's not, research radio waves, infrared, and light waves and you'll realize we have only crawled into the light of discovery

>learn before speaking
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>>726731890
>IT'S ACCEPTED

Says literally only you. What are you doing in here anyway? Facebook misses you, I'm sure.
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>>726732053
FUCK YOU
THEY ARE SPACE NOISE
THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>726731897
FUCK YOU LYING FAGGOT
WE'VE NEVER "STUDIED" GERMS AND MICROBES ON METEORS
JESUS CHRIST ALL OF YOU FAGGOTS GREW UP WATCHING FUCKING STAR WARS THAT'S WHY YOU'RE FUCKED UP
FUCK YOU
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anyone have the video of this?
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don't you people know swamp gas when you see it?
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>>726731649
>I trust in science
>I'm not smart enough to access or analyze the scientific data collected on a research study, nor am I brave enough to formulate my own hypothesis and apply the scientific method, generating an outcome of my own.

You sound precisely as stupid as people who trust in the bible as fact.
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>>726732122

I don't know what you think I'm talking about, but I'm actually saying all those things travel too slow and too weakly (besides light) for us to have monitored every planet, even in just the Milky Way. We are practically babies crawling around the house right now, not even aware of who lives next door.
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>>726732363
JESUS CHRIST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND REFUTE THE FUCKING ARGUMENTS
>>726730293
>>726730467
>>726730732
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>>726732433
Even Sagan agrees with me
>>726730467
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>>726732254
ok when they are not aliens then explain this
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>>726731663
The pictures should not bem released because thats a military operation. Da rulz says you cant take pictures or vídeo of operations without approval.
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I've seen UFO tech flying right in front of my eyes, about 15 years ago. Might either be alien or our own.

In either case, we are nothing more than people on medieval ages for whoever built those amazing devices.
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>>726732254
Bacteria in space
>https://newsela.com/articles/space-bacteria/id/12730/

Bacteria on meteor
>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/05/has-life-been-found-in-a-meteorite/

Bacteria on mars
>http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2986

>"Liar!", he screamed again, pounding a chunky cheeto stained fist on his keyboard

Hahaha bait so bad, its like you're not even trying faggot
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>>726732807
>blogs
>science

fuck you
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>>726732570
Hey gayboy, this guy>>726732807
just refuted your life's beliefs
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Russians
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>>726732988
No he didn't. There is no evidence of bacteria or living microbes being found.

That would totally change our society.
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>>726732842
>Forbes
>science

You pathetic gallon of ass
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>>726732570
Prove to me God doesn't exist.
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>>726728947
just saying this was on mars
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>>726733063
>Bacteria on mars
>http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2986

Bruh.
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>>726732988
Origins of Life on Mars: NASA's Rovers Were Never Sterilized

http://cosmology.com/OriginsOfLifeOnMars.html
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>>726733086
"BECAUSE SCIENCE FICK YOU FIGGOT"

>he screams in a virginal rage
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>>726733142
>>726733162
>03/24/17(Fri)15:06:52 No.726733162
>>726733162
>>726733162
>>726733162
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>>726729404
I am a professor of Astronomy and planetary science here in Blighty, google the Drake equation please and then apologize to the non-retarded children here.
The odds on us being alone in the universe are staggering, we are definitely not alone, NASA has spent billions seriously looking for life elsewhere since the 70's.

This feels like bait, I'm off to buff up my leather elbow pads now, tata!
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>>726733162
You're an idiot.

Things you should google.
>what the fuck are fossilized germs?
>how the fuck does carbon dating work?
>why am I wrong literally ALL the time?
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>>726733086
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that You exist, and so therefore, by Your own arguments, You don't. QED"

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
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Hotdogs?
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>>726733295
>google the Drake equation please
GOD DAMMIT FAGGOT FUCK I POSTED A LINK EARLIER THAT REFUTES THE FUCKING DRAKE EQUATION
FUCKYOU
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>726733464
Aliens are real. I've been abducted.

AMA
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>>726733464

Holy
Fucking
Shit this kid is hilarious
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>>726733340
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>>726733464
You did not refute it, you sir are a moron.
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>>726733340
HHGttU
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>>726730467
10% chance of succeeding is astounding odds considering how many chances the whole universe holds, happening, every second.
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>>726732254

calm down, son. most probably there were many forms of life but they all self-destroyed like a cancer or parasites kills the host.

life have no chance to escape self-destruction.
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>>726733672

I hope this dude applies to college and doesn't make it due to stupid shit like this
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>>726729696
looks nothing like a cruise missile, v2 was rocket, and where's the combustion from the fuel propelling your "cruise missile"? Common sense is your friend.
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>>726734072

I think he meant could be a launcher or something, those ones sticking out of the water look like they could be some kind of launcher platform experiment
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>>726733912
NO THERE FUCKING WASN'T
STOP MAKING SHIT UP GODDAMMIT

WE ARE IT

WE ARE THE ONLY EXAMPLE IN THIS UNIVERSE PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD
FAGGOT PERIOD FAGGOT PERIOD FAGGOT PERIOD PERIOD
FAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOTFAGGOT
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>>726733464
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>>726733295
Although I personally feel it's more likely for life to exist elsewhere than not, the Drake equation has been refuted multiple times over the years by respected scientists. Thus, I don't believe you're a professor of Astronomy.
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So did the sperglord finally lay down for a nap or what?
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>>726733464
>https://youtu.be/NFPtjXFfczM

Suck it dork.
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>>726733464

probabilistic equations are nonsense, of course, because all the relevant variables cannot be captured (no one knows all the relevant variables) so fuck the equations.

the answer is that one cannot possible know. the question is unanswerable.
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>>726728982
This one is obviously fake
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>>726734447
FUCK YOU FAGGOT THAT'S A TV SHOW
THAT ISN'T PROOF
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
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>>726734536
YES WE CAN FAGGOT
WE HAVE A 10% CHANGE OF ANY OF THIS HAPPENING ACCORDING TO ONE OF THE TOP COSMOLOGISTS OF ALL TIME
IT'S NOT GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN
WE ARE ALONE
STOP TALKING SHIT
ALL OF YOU
ALL OF YOU NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP RIGHT NOW AND ACCEPT THAT WE'RE ALONE
ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE ALONE
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>>726729404
>t.alien
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>>726734572

>posts Forbes as proof

You funny autism enthusiast
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>>726734572
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>>726734572
someone must screencap this
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>>726728947
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>>726734730
FUCK YOU GODDAMMIT
IT'S A SCIENTIFIC ARTICLE IN FORBES
REFUTE IT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT
YOU CAN'T
YOU CAN'T GODDAMMIT
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE TALKING SHIT AND I'M STATING THE FUCKING GODDAMMED TRUTH YOU FUCKING FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT
SHUT UP
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>>726729815
>man evolved that's it
>one species in an entire universe

You were doing so well until you made it obvious.
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>>726734702

estimates of the top cosmologists are bullshit, faggot. they cannot even estimate their own ass.
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>>726734210
I don't think so, he mentioned the "v1" (aka V2), which was never launched from anywhere but dry land, and idk about you but I've never seen a floating tomahawk cruise missile launching platform. And if they were they wouldn't be poking from the water, they can be launched in the same manner ICBMs are launched from submarines.
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>>726735114
Dunno man, was just trying to help the brother out :(
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>>726729361
Its a shame the world isnt as interesting as people want it to be. but to be far this is an interesting phenomenon.
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at the end of the day if this is real or not, what the fuck am i supposed to do. Look at the stars tonight and jerk off.
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>>726735052
SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT GODDAMMIT

I'M SICK OF HAVING TO WADE THROUGH ROWS AND ROWS OF FAGGOTS IN THIS FUCKING THREAD
FUCK YOU
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>>726730442
Kill yourself fucking faggot
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>>726728947
I believe in aliens and such and the only one I cant explain is 2 which might be a "fata morgana"
as it does look like an upside down navy ship the rest I think are like some missiles and shit
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>>726735299
the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and checked.
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>>726735744
kekked and checked.
This is honestly the only reason I still come to this shithole.
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>>726728947
These aren't pictures of alien crafts. They're illusions and training targets.

In anycase I think it's worth noting that in lifeforms from different ecosystems aren't likely to be anything we'd traditionally would expect aliens to be. This doesn't only apply on form, timescale and forms of intelligence, but also on social needs. Chances are any intelligent lifeforms we could possibly meet are hostile.

If I would have to make a wild guess on the most likely form of aliens we'd meet it'd be space ants. Not ants really, but similiar in behaviour and size. Not intelligent per se, but able to breed fast and survive in hostile conditions, very hostile and destructive. This kind of lifeforms could live like massive bacterias on asteroids and survive hitting a planet. They could possibly feed on the minerals through processes unknown to us.

Thanks to the oxygen rich atmosphere we've not had such lifeforms intrude our planet, as anything entering would burn fairly quickly. Whatever lifeforms may have arrived to our planet would have arrived before the planet had a proper atmosphere. And again; the bigger beings would have still died due to the impact or lack of minerals to feed on, leaving only bacteria behind.

I think finding lifeforms in space is going to be a massive disappointment to the public. Not because of the implications but because of the high expectations that pop-culture has created.

There's also the detail that time among other elements of existance is relative. Einstein might have scraped the surface but realisticly speaking this is still alchemy of sorts and the human lifespain simply isn't long enough for anybody to truly understand any little detail of anything. Chances are we're always too early or too late to meet with other lifeforms. Even if we'd have somekind of space teleportation technology and an alien civilization to meet up, it'd still be really fucked up from perspective of time.
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>>726733834
>The step of abiogenesis -- where the raw ingredients associated with organic processes actually become what we recognize as "life" -- needs to occur.
>Life must survive and thrive for billions of years on a planet in order to evolve multicellularity, complexity, differentiation and what we call "intelligence."
>And finally, that intelligent life must then become a technological civilization, either gaining the ability to announce its presence to the Universe, to reach out beyond its home and explore the Universe, or to reach the stage where it can listen for other forms of intelligence in the Universe. Or, more optimistically, all three.

>When Carl Sagan originally presented Cosmos in 1980, he claimed it was reasonable to give each of these three steps a 10% chance of succeeding.

Let's do the math:

3 steps 10% odds each = 0.1% chance of completing all 3, let's cut that by 10 again say 0.01%
>In November 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarfs in the Milky Way — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_potentially_habitable_exoplanets
then lets say that 1% of those earth-sized planets are actually conducive to abiogenesis.
So odds are 0.0001% of those planets have life that reaches step 3.

Thats 40,000 planets using worse odds than what you started with.


You grossly underestimate the scale of this galaxy, much less the universe in general
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>>726737370 (continued)
I'll add that this doesn't say that there are 40,000 of these other races right now, there are theories that life couldn't have started much earlier than it did for us in this galaxy due to the number of supernova GRBs is the early galaxy. So we may end up the elder race of the galaxy.
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