So, Trumpets, explain, why would a civilised country cut all

Because Trump supporters are brainwashed idiots.

Who the hell dropped oil?

>comparing arts with infrastructure
>uses msm as sources
>trumpets

Try again, snowflake.

>>726456829
>>726458257

samefag

also

sage

>>726456420
You fucking libcucks amaze me..
Do you think the rest of the world is powered by windmills? And solar?
Do you realize how bad for the environment thise two things are to produce? Or how inefficient they are based on how much space they use up and how much they fuck up wildlife?
98 percent of energy still comes from the earth.
Everything you do uses oil and coal so atop acting like a faggot just bc trump
Actually understands industry and isnt trying to trick you like obumbum

>>726456420
sorry no more funding for your anal masturbation trap documentary, fucking faggot. go get a man's job and stop wearing fucking dresses.


in trumps America, traps liberals and foreigners aren't really humans anymore...they are retarded fuckdolls like the gods intended

>>726456420
8 years to go libtard

>>726456420
Bump for answers

>>726459350
>>726459349
>>726458806
>>726458481
Mein niggas

>>726456420
I've noticed that suddenly the media has been running all kinds of stories about how great China is in the alternative energy sector. Propaganda much?

>>726456420
So we cut some faggot funds to get back to manly work like digging up coal and burning it?

Do you think the US can save the earth by recycling and shit? China and the Middle East will never play ball. That's atleasts 2 billion people to make up for. Even if every one of the 335million Americans (plus 15million illegals) went green it wouldnt mean jack shit.

We are done sacrificing our own infrastructure to stay green and not hurt feelings. We will not roll over so you don't cry at night. It's not our fault daddy touched you

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Trump is anti america and trump supporters are useful idiots who are proud of their ignorance

>>726456420
I realize this is falseflagging, but cutting the NEA is retarded posturing and literally every single human knows it. It costs fifteen dollars a year, and yet conservatives are going to bend over backwards to praise Trump for how much he's sticking it to the wasteful libtards.

In any event, coal IS a dying, unsustainable, industry, and the people who are currently celebrating the return of the handful of jobs would have been much better off learning a better trade, but it's cool. We'll just party like it's 2005 and kick the can a little further down the line and I'm sure things will probably sort themselves out later when all the jobs for the uneducated are automated and the banks implode again just like the last time we decided to de-regulate everything.

>>726459632
>I hate white america
>I can't leave the country because I have no value
>we gotta force America to change so I never have to get a job

>>726459349
But, you would buy an anal masturbation trap documentary anon.

Or at least beg for someone to link it in the trap threads youre constantly masturbating in.

>>726459702
Projecting much?

>>726458806
please elaborate you trumpcuck and probable dragon dildo rider

>>726459660
The NEA is mostly just pushing liberal propaganda and coal is cheaper than solar and wind power.

>>726459764
nah, faggot

Why should it be the governments job to subsidize the arts? That's pretty retarded

>>726458806
Bruh, he drives a Prius and a Tesla which runs on totally free energy!

>>726456420
The government (taxpayers) do not have to pay to extract coal from the ground. In fact what the government is doing is simply allowing people who own mineral right to exercise those rights, an act for which the government get PAID.
You are somehow comparing this to the government using taxpayer money to support 'artists' who's work is so substandard that they could not otherwise sell their products. To allowing companies to do what they need to do to keep their people working and stock holders happy.

>>726456420
Coal = cheaper electricity = more money for arts = duh faggot

>>726459660
This anon gets it

Business is usually focused on short term gains at any cost, while the grown ups have to eventually step in and lay down the law.

>>726459838
coal has less invested in it than renewable energy because it's expensive to extract unless you exploit your work force by factoring in how many miners you don't mind burying now and then.

As long as it doesn't happen to your town though right?

>>726459632
>Bernie Sanders
Is he even relevant anymore?

>>726459349
In Trump's America, dipshits believe revisionist historical propaganda like "things were so much better back in the day". It's bullshit, of course, but trumptards prove that humans still suffer from this delusion.

>>726460117
You mean like those two faggots who died on that wind farm while stuck on a burning wind turbine?

>>726460117
Yeah, honestly, fuck minors.

>>726456420
>theguardian
>washingtonpost

Both left wing rags and not to be trusted

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>>726456420
>libshits still this triggered over losing the election

Gonna be a tough 8 years snowflakes lol

>>726461131
This. I didn't think it would be this hilarious but here we are.

I honestly don't even know why I argue with these cucks anymore, we already won.

>>726461131
>>726461201
It's not about the election anymore. Do you have anything else to cling to other than 'he won'?

If you had any brain cells at all, you'd know we're criticizing his *current* behavior.

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>>726461283
>triggered

lmao

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>>726456420
>why would a civilised country cut all funding for the arts
Because arts don't solve issues like the looming tantalum depletion we're facing in 30 years.
For those of you who don't give a shit about physical sciences, no tantalum = no tantalum capacitors = no smartphones, motherboards/system boards or Raspberry PIs.

>but prop up the extraction of polluting, obsolete natural resource?
Conveniently forgetting "Green" energy like solar leaves deprecated, rusting metal heaps along highways everywhere and the cost to manufacture a 100W solar panel doesn't actually pay for itself until ~27 years after installation, nevermind windmills which need constant maintenance and magnalium (a preferred alloy in high-performance commercial windmills) is not cheap to produce.

>An economic sector that was partly driven by the demand of your international rivals, who have dropped it by using newer, cleaner tech?
Who? Where?
China still uses coal, trigger. Europe still scarfs down natural gas imported from the Russian Bear.
India? Coal.

>NEA funding could mean that some hicks in Kentucky could do something better than digging up coal for nobody to buy.
There's that liberal fascism and bigotry that the world over has come to expect in 2017.

Your sources are left-wing biased. Try for slightly more independent sources next time.

>>726458806
We should move away from it though, and fund space based solar panels and more ambitious projects like that, we need to move away from fossil fuels and do less damage in the long run

>>726460239
The wind industry took advantage of those two poor souls and now they are dead because they didn't have the proper safeguards in place.

>>726456420
>why would a civilised country cut all funding for the arts
Government funding the arts is equivalent to compelled expression. You are forcing people to promote expressions that they may disagree with.

I don't want my money, earned through sacrificing my own time, going to some useless artist who will make a monument to Islam or some shit.

>obsolete natural resource
Fucking kek, stop pretending you care about energy security, you libscum came out against fracking, and nuclear, and natural gas. You moralize about energy policy based on emotion, not facts.

>Like a coal sculpture or something
Have you ever, in your life, encountered coal? It can't be sculpted.

>>726461283
You're criticizing his current behavior simply because you don't agree with him.

We won. Keep crying, cuck.

>>726459807

wow trying to kink shame other people
you really suck at being a liberal

>>726460162
People still share his shit on facebook as if he didn't sell out the hopes and dreams of his supporters for 3 mansions and a summer house on the beach.

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>>726461390
>>726461498

>>726461459
This guy. Hey lets make electricity more expensive so that we can't compete in the global marketplace. Genius!

>>726461579
>I don't agree with him
>hurr durr edgy
Your cuck is showing.

>>726459546
>propaganda
Fuck off or prove it's not real you baiting retard.

>>726460239
Not even a comparison

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OP as usual is a huge faggot who literally cannot accept their failure in life.

I love it, please continue, only eight more years to go! kek

>>726461650
nah, the 'edgy' is the inability to respond with anything other than 'umad' tier posts.

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>>726461283
>s-stop m-mentioning Hillarys defeat!!!

lmfao :^)

>>726461669
Suddenly liberals love China, how about that air quality?

>>726461725
you can mention it, it's just not relevant here

>>726456420
>washingtonpost
>guardian

Got any real sources?

>>726459349
Get a real job sais the cuck who probly pounds rocks for a living, enjoy your black lung faggot

>>726456420
left wing fake news

>sage

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>>726461816

>>726461688
Right, it was sad because they were heroes for alternative energy. But when coal miners die it was because the mean old coal company exploited the workers.

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>>726456420
>implying we were better off under Obama

Found the brainwashed libcuck

>>726461626
That's not what it should be about, it should be about not making our planet toxic, typical conservitard thinking profits before anything, sad part you don't even benefit from the side your supporting.

>>726461797
>not relevant
Y-O-U
L-O-S-T

>>726461865
Washington Post and The Guardian are known liberal bias news sources.
If you got linked to Breitbart or InfoWars you would have said the exact same thing, you fucking cuck.

>>726461948
So the price I pay for goods would be the same even if electricity costs increased? Tell me more about liberal economics.

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>>726461863
This, the Guardian and Washington Post are CNN tier garbage

>>726461403
China is using less coal, and reducing emissions, and Denmark produces half of its power from wind

>>726462011
>If you got linked to Breitbart or InfoWars

you said it, not me.

>>726458257
no. Well, yes they are, but that is not why the country is doing this. because it isn't the country - it is the administration. it is Trump and Bannon, and Trump's fellow kleptocrats.

it isn't America that is trying to squeeze the last few millions of dollars from the dying coal and oil industry - it is EXXON and the Koch Bros, and the billionaires that have big money invested in oil and coal. they want to get the bubble inflated and make it look like that worthless (because we cannot and must not burn it) stuff is worth something, and then sell out to the idiots who believe it before the bubble bursts.

this is the set up for the greatest fraud in history - by the greatest fraudster and his pals.

The military spending is also a con - it looks good to his idiot voter base, but more importantly it puts money in the pockets of Trumps pals and backers

same with infrastructure programme - the building companies and developers will make billions. none of this is being done at cost, or by public bodies - it is all funneling billions into private pockets. same with schools, medical care, every aspect of government. the deregulation is not to allow more business, it is to allow big business to save money by not doing basic health and safety precautions, or disposing of waste properly.

this is a great money grab - huge tax cut for e top, bloat the deficit and fuck the rest.

everything else is just diversion and slieght of hand. You rant and rave about defunding the opers - Trump walks away with billions while you don't notice.

oh yes, and starts world war three against the muslims. That is the plan you know - Bannon thinks that it is inevitable and a Good Thing, and means to bring it about soon....

>>726461948
He doesn't benefit by cheaper power? Why do you say that? Because YOU don't pay your own power bill? Fucking neet libcuck living in his mother's basement over here.

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>>726456420
>libtards actually believe this fake news

kek

>>726462108
I'm saying that if you got linked to a conservative news source, you and other libcucks would have called it fake.

It goes both ways, retard.

>>726461748
The air quality is shit and will take a long time to fix, but you said them going greener and making progress was propaganda which equals lies. Now prove it or fuck off retard.

>>726461969
explain how this means we're not allowed to criticize Trump now? Fuck, you people wouldn't stop obstructing and fighting Obama, the fact that 'you lost' didn't mean jack shit then.

kys

>>726462129
>it is the administration. it is Trump and Bannon
I thought the liberals were saying it was Putin?

>>726461866
That's exactly right, I figured you'd get it before too long

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>>726462073
Yes but demoshits believe everything they read in the lügenpresse

>>726462240
>the fact that 'you lost' didn't mean jack shit then
Conservatives didn't burn down several cities when Obama won. They were pissed, sure, but you liberals chimped the fuck out.

>>726458806
you fucking oil company shill amaze me...


didn't you hear that Beijing just closed its last major coal fired power plant? that the UK ran for three days last month on green energy? that Germany runs at 80% on remewables? that the cost of solar power is falling, so it wind and wave? that while most of the world is still oil and coal dependent in twenty years time, if we put in the effort, at lower cost than continuing the current fossil fuel stategy, and giving us a more secure energy source, we could all be 90% renewable?

actually try to understand industry, and the environment, and stop sucking Trump and big oils corporate cock.

>>726462065
>>726462134
With renewable energy the prices go down, do you guys even know what you're talking about?

>>726459350
four at worst, and fewer than that with Trump in the oval office...

man is going to jail.

We're gonna make Russia great again. Fuck all you libtards.

>>726456420

If you can't produce art that people want to pay for, your art sucks and shouldn't get a government subsidisy.

If infrastructure gets some tax breaks, it creates tons of jobs which boosts the economy for everyone.

Try being less stupid.

>>726462245
It doesn't matter.
They just like to find names and turn them into buzzwords to demonize big bad Trump because they don't agree with him.

>>726462305
well if that's all you've got, good. I'm not giving up on criticizing or opposing the president any time soon and all the 'you lost cuck' in the world isn't gonna stop shit.

Enjoy.

Conservatives don't care about anything but money and guns. Why bother asking them a out shit like this?

It's is beyond their power to understand.
Unless you're trolling, don't bother making threads like these.

>>726462343
>man is going to jail
Literal delusions.
Thinking Trump should go to jail and yet you'll lose your voice defending your murder candidate

>>726462308
>the UK ran for three days last month on green energy? that Germany runs at 80% on remewables?
I wonder if that is why everything is cheaper in the US.

>>726462433
>no counter argument
>y-you won't break me
Cry until your voice is sore, kid.
Enjoy the next 8 years.

>>726462343

It's actually not against the law to hurt your feelings, so Trump won't get impeached or go to jail. Sorry to ruin your fantasy.

>>726462333
Tell me more about this cheap renewable energy.

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>>726462524
>thinks an 80 year old dementia patient will win again.

>>726462333
TTTTRRRRIIIIIPPPPPSSSSS. I'd like to thank the academy, god, Op, gosh this is just the greatest moment of my life I love you all, can't believe I got trips, thank you all so much

>>726462524
counter argument to what? You didn't put an argument forth, only a ridiculous non-sequitur.

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>>726462343
>Thinks not being a liberal retard is a jailable offense.

>>726462559
Oh wow you aren't even qualified to be having this discussion, why don't you go find a YLYL thread that's probably not your speed

>>726456420
1- Arts should not have public funding as proven by the mostly disgusting drivel that passes for art these days. THere should be enough wealth at hand for ordinary folks to buy art that they are interested in. Not govenment approved.
2. That "obsolete natural resource" is the thing keeping you warm on cold nights, propelling your car during the day and keeping civilized society running, the economy going and preventing it from descending into mad max anarchism. Until nuclear fusion is attainable on a large scale, that's how its going to be no matter how hard you green morons howl.
3. Those rivals still are , only now the US will become self sufficient forgoing the need for all those oil wars. THey have not dropped it to go with cleaner tech. Wind and solar are canards, simply shifting the burden of energy production somewhere else like Nuclear power plants or coal in countries like india and china.

stop spewing mindless propaganda and learn about the real world

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>>726456420
I voted for Trump, and each day I get more energized by the outstanding work he's doing and how angry he's making the snowflake liberal pussies lol. I liked his policies and stances, but more than that, I love that everything he does triggers the shit out of the lefty cupcakes and I absolutely love seeing it everyday, it put's a huge smile on my face :^))

>>726459619
ah, another big oil shill post.

good, good, keep the stupid shit flowing.

I lol'd at the "manly work" line - what manly work do you do? manly - you mean likely to kill you before you are fifty, and pollute all the local environment, and the whole earth ecosystem? Yeah, very laudable. Or do you mean "manly" as in full of hunky, muscly men with oil or coal dust smeared over their gleaming torsos, that you can jack off to their pictures?

China is playing ball - china is leading the wrld in developing green tech, and will clean America off when they market it to the world, and America sits back guzzling oil for the next four years and falls behind the market. And given that America is the largest per capita consumer of all major resources int he world - you guys beig a little more sustainable would mean a lot.

what won't mena jack shit is the amount of oil you have when the rest of the world has turned against it and the price of oil plummets...

but the big boys who are ramping up this bibble now - the billionaires that back Trump, and his own family - will have solfd out of oil by then, and invested in green products in China, and they will take the money and run all the way to the bank, leaving you with a polluted environment and an energy infrastructure that is unusable and has to be replaced... and they will charge you for that too.

oh how they will laugh.

you think you are earning good money shilling for them now? wait til the true cost hits you.

>>726456420
Just so happens those are all fake news. What a coinkydink

>>726462673
You drank the liberal Kool Aid.

>>726462353
If they get tax breaks they don't hire more people they pocket it, damn your gullible

>>726459908
this

>>726462343
We are going to smother all of you to death over the next 8 years.

>>726462366
That's really reductive. Believe me, I understand that most Trump voters don't care that he lies, but to deny that he does makes you seem like an intellectual lightweight when having a discussion with someone who doesn't support him.

>>726462761
Nice counter, don't you have bananas to post?

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>>726462702
> implying Trump isn't the ultimate snowflake pussy

lol

>, but prop up the extraction of polluting, obsolete natural resource?

How about you explain why you'd prefer to fund our enemies with billions?

China is OPENING 7 coal fired power plants PER WEEK. But you knew that, RIGHT???

Your premises are not true.

Other countries are NOT replacing revamping BASE LOAD electricity generation with green tech. They are supplementing.

Hint: You are LOW information.

Sick of feel good dumbasses like you.

>>726462744
>wait til the true cost hits you.

Execute tinfoilhat.exe

>>726456420
Sources are unrealiable feminnazi propganda spreading fuck ups that are angry becuse socail studies classes will be cut and lets face it they dont work.

>>726462343
>man is going to jail.
He might go to a jail to visit Hilary after he puts her in there. For the lulz of course.

>>726458806
No

>>726459697
I am a greedy selfish fuck who won't pay for anyone elses health care, even though it means that my own health care is twice as expensive, and that the health problems of all those other people are a huge drag on the economy, using or destroying resources that could be making the world a better place for me.

isn't that what you really meant to say, sociopath?

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>>726456420

>>726462308
45 % of China's energy production is based on coal. Don't believe this crap.
They are trying to replace coal but won't make any headway until 2040.
the rest of China's energy production comes from natural gas, petroleum and nuclear energy.

good luck on your quest for shangri la fighting windmills all the way.

>>726462900
>not realizing leftist regressives have no dignity
No sector of the US has ever behaved so shamefully. It's a sad thing that retards like you can't even comprehend how people have always treated elected officials for the past 200 years.

>>726459838
nope. it isn't.

unless you leave out all the costs of its use, in pollution, global warming and loss of opportunity to develop more jobs and use fewer unsustainable resources.

and in real terms new solar is cheaper than new coal...

>>726463046
> it's only snowflakism when OTHER people get offended

stay triggered

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>>726456420

>NEA funding could mean that some hicks in Kentucky could do something better than digging up coal for nobody to buy.

The best part is that all those hillbillies are anti-gubbament, anti-welfare conservatives that have no problem though with da evil gubbament subsidizing their jobs, which is essentially welfare as well.

>>726463033
I still can't believe the liberal media's new love affair with China.

>>726456420

Because art is for fags and dead anyways.

>>726461218
Ty for this

>>726459996
but the government is also paid to protect people from existential threats to to their lives, their health and future prospects. Letting big oil and coal run free is not protecting people - it is authorizing their deaths and destruction of their environment.

>>726463059
Liberal alternative facts!

>>726460027
coal is not cheaper, so, nope. but I am glad you said "duh" I can understand that you probably say it alot...

>>726462744
>china is playing ball

Is that why Beijing is covered in smog due to air pollution?

>>726462903
>7 a week
Haha no they aren't

>>726463174
Otherwise known as facts.

>>726463174
look it up for yourself. Solar and Wind are very good power sources and while they have drawbacks like everything else their drawbacks are nowhere near what coal and oil are.

>>726461047
ah, isn't it sad when all you can say is that it is fake news, or from a source that does not always suck Trump's dick?

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>>726458806

>You fucking libcucks amaze me..

Like how a dog is amazed when it's owner flushes the toilet? I have no problem believing that.

>>726462184
This
>Biased new is biased, and they're all biased.

>>726456420
Explain why the federal government is putting money into things that are largely privately owned/ funded?
The biggest lie about all these things is this idea that these things will end cause the government isn't putting out anymore. They won't. Shot the fees only puts in a tiny amount of their budget anyway. Maybe the liberals who never gave a shot about meals on wheels until last week can finally start putting their money where their virtue signaling mouths are

>>726461131
no, we are triggered by the current So called President's actions, today. Election was history - haven't you got over that yet? You supposedly won - isn't it time you stated to look at what he is doing and work out that you really lost. He won. You just voted for him, to fleece you and fuck you over.

>>726456420
So, cucks, explain, why would any government fund entertainment in the first place? Because let's be real, art is merely a form of entertainment.

>>726463219
You retards expect it the air pollution to vanish in a night? Stop being a toddler.

>>726461218
>libtards actually believe this

>>726461484
>you libscum came out against fracking,
and we were right to do.

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>>726463395
Well he can't be worse than Obama, NOBODY could be as inept at running a country than that fool.

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>>726458806

>libcucks amaze me

Because I won't breed my sister even though she's at the right age?

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>>726456420

>>726462308
Beijing won't be energy independent till like 2040 or 2050 and they still use a lot of oil.
UK ran for 3 days in a month? That's nice. So the remaining 27 days they just said fuck it lets live with no power like we're kb the bronze age
Germany runs 80% renewable? That's so cool! Germany also only has 80 mill people. So less resources all together

>>726456420
it makes no sense to "fund the arts" through the government. literally everything that passes through the government is riddled with bureaucratic exchanges and relatively strict regulations.

normally these budgets for the arts at state and national level just pay for kids to go to museums. they have nothing to do with the "arts" and are designed to extend government money to teachers, curators, etc. who would normally get jack shit because none of their work has value. fundraising the traditional way doesn't work in an area so they raise taxes to staff and provide access to little performances, exhibits, etc.

the government can still encourage the arts through public schools. but as it turns out, nobody really gives a shit about joe schmo's mural or dance piece. the arts should be for your own creativity and pleasure, not a government subsidized career path. now we can both agree that there was never that much money given to the "arts" from taxes in the first place, but we certainly have a culture that seems to think having a creative hobby should be rewarded the same as if you can run a business.

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>>726463633

>>libcucks amaze me
>Because I won't breed my sister even though she's at the right age?

Tump has hinted several times that he wants to breed his daughter. Maybe that's the South and Appalachia connect so well with him.

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>>726461484
>Have you ever, in your life, encountered coal? It can't be sculpted.

wrong....

"also to make a sculpture" in modern english does not always mean to sculpt a shape from the material - "sculture" now merely means a three dimensional art piece, often not even representational, which can be produced by sticking things together, or piling them up.

but hey, you don't care about art, so why would you know that.

>>726462129

I remember hearing several people talk about how America's economy was in the toilet and would benefit from a business professional running the country like a business.

Well, this is the exact result, especially when America's CEO has a shady history with his own businesses.

>klepocrats

That's about the sum of it. We as Americans had no real viable choice in the last election. Either we elected a career politician that only wanted wealth and power or a career businessman that only wanted wealth and power. Neither one of them gave a single fuck about the people voting for them because why should they. Once they're in office, they're dug in like ticks. People keeping prattling on about "Impeach Trump!" but everyone knows that's not going to happen. He could murder his wife in broad daylight on the lawn of the White House in full view of the public and still be able moonwalk out of any charges of wrong doing because that's what our political system has come to.

>>726463751
True, but he was still a better option than Killary, we didn't want WW3 on our hands.

>>726461498
>simply because you don't agree with him.

no simply because any rational person with any moral compass would not agree with hi,

his behaviour is motivated soley by greed, for himself and his friends and family, and by a twisted egotism.

the economy, the environment and the civil culture of the USA will be deeply damaged by Trump.

that is why we criticize him

>>726456420
Because we have lots and lots of coal

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>>726462903
Yes, China is a wonderful example of how shit should be run.

>>726456420
Because I don't like modern art.

Which can all be boiled down to me not having a favorable impression from watching 1 man shit on another man's face

>>726463571

Never underestimate how bad things can get. At least for now you're likely living in an area where you can get clean water that's not bottled. I'm not talking about law at this point, I'm talking about an administration that would be willing to cut the legs out from underneath environmental protections that could jeopardize basic human needs.

Don't get me wrong, I like some of the stuff Trump's doing, but I don't think it has to be done at the expense of the environment.

>arts, EPA, education take up a miniscule proportion of the budget
>cut

>military is most of the budget
>raise it
>veterans will increase with military
>raise it
>ex military make up a huge proportion of domestic terrorists and with more military incursions more foreign terrorists will be motivated
>raise homeland security budget too

Not to mention the social impact the cuts will have.

This budget is great to promote future spending and future violence.

Well done, Don.

>>726461816
anyone who does not know that both these world renowned newspapers have the highest standards of truth telling, fact checking, source checking and journalistic integrity - well, you don't deserve a seat at the grown up table for discussion.

just saying "fake news" does not mean that your lies have not been exposed.

>>726460117
This right here proves to me how little you know about the coal industry.

You realise theres only like 8 actual miners down there at a time? The rest of the work is in refining.

When you want to up production you dont exploit the workforce you buy more drills. Then you hire more people for the refinery.

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>>726462073

They over estimated the intelligence of the American voter.

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>>726456420
Why would a government support the arts? This is a good move by Trump "if true" Both your sources are biased left leaning news which gives it a high chance of being fake.

>>726461866
no one is saying that the green energy poducers are any less venal than the coal and oil cmpanies (pro tip, EXXON and BP are major investors in wind power)

the point is that the green energy compaines profit driven as they are, are also not destroying the entire current ecosystem of the planet which we depend on to live...

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>>726464004
Very true, over 65 million voted for a criminal

>>726461922
Implying that McCain and Palin or Romney would have done a better job at pulling the country out of the hole that the Republican Bush had ploughed it into,,,,

>>726464019

Promoting the art not only enriches the population now, but it reaches out to youth and nurtures skills that they will need later in life and foments intellectual pursuits in them rather than allowing them to idly grow older.

It also encourages national pride in a less imperialist way.

>>726463829

Fair enough. I'm of the mindset that the way things are going now we're probably headed that way anyway though, regardless of who's running the show.

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>>726462275

>Yes but demoshits believe everything they read in the lügenpresse

Unlike the right, which champions credible news sources.

Btw, what's your opinion about the blond bimbo that got suspended from Beck's truth and free speech network for stating she's pro-choice?

>>726460946
>fuck minors.
Mods

>>726462108
but Breitbart and Infowars are well know producers of entirley untrue stories. they are known for just making shit up. while there are a few occasions when the Guardian, left leaning, but a highly respected journal, has made mistakes, they actually print retractions and apologise. they do not just make shit up.

if you cannot see the difference between infowars and the WP, in terms of ethics and integrity, you need a course in moral thinking.

there is no comparison, and it is simply wrong to equate them.

>>726464166
>65 million voted for a criminal

That's why we have the EC system in place otherwise the dumb liberal asswipes in California, New York and Florida would decide every election.

>>726464004
>mfw it's always about 50% of the united states that thinks the other 50% is retarded, and the feeling is mutual
>mfw this is apparently true despite a bunch of immigrants, population getting older, wealthier (plus more wealth inequality), etc.
>mfw politics has been and will always be a balance between supporting the "unpopular" while still maintaining as big a group as possible
>mfw if a third party gains traction it will always stop at around 33% of people being for it, unless you have some fuckery going on like war or famine
>mfw all politicians generally agree on the same things for like 90% of social issues, and somehow their often inconsequential stance on the other 10% determines who is retarded or a political genius
>mfw Obama was only a good president because he was well spoken, despite being a brutal asshole to immigrants and the middle east, and putting forward a healthcare bill that fucked over young adults and anyone making 25-75k.

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>>726464019

>which gives it a high chance of being fake.

Just because your news sources like infowars, breitbart and co. pull shit they made completely up out of their asses doesn't mean credible journalists do that too. But I do understand that you make assumptions based on what you experienced.

>>726464520

You mean the most people would decide?

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>>726464582
No, not in the States, there is no popular vote in the US. Never has been, never will be.

I love it when people talk about the popular vote though. It makes them look retarded.

>>726462245
some people who you call liberals may say that. Personally I think that Putin did interfere with the election - russian trolls were certainly on this board in force all last summer and autumn (back to the future memes anyone?) and on Facebook and other places. But what is going on now in America, int eh Whitehouse, is Trump's doing. He may have a nice cosy relation ship with Putin, and will make a lot of money, for himself and his family and firends (tillerson, half a billion...) by doing what putin wants, but I don't think Putin is calling the shots. That is Bannon, and Trump. and probably a few other billionaire pals. And they are collaborating with the billionaires of the Republican party to pass a huge tax break for themselves, and to cut health care, and to pour money into private pockets whnever thay can.

it doesn't matter that he is or is not Putin's puppet on international affairs - what matters is that this is the most corrupt government the USA has seen in a century.

america will be made bankrupt, apart from the tax free millionaires.

>>726464569
Are you trying to say that CNN is in any way credible? Don't make me laugh.

>>726462305
>Conservatives didn't burn down several cities when Obama won.

which cities got burned down? (or would you be wildly over exaggerating?)

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>>726464520

>That's why we have the EC system in place otherwise the dumb liberal asswipes in California, New York and Florida would decide every election.

Of course you dumb shit, because every last one in California voted Clinton. It's not like Trump got 4.4 million votes there. And there certainly aren't any Republican voters in New York or Floridy.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-california-s-ballots-have-all-been-1481163154-htmlstory.html

>>726464569
Well there's two variations of fake news, the left uses fake news to mean "news I don't like." The right use the term to mean "news that is literally made up" There's a big difference.

>>726464706

True enough.

The majority often is not the one to decide.

>>726464746
>>726462305

Well, to be fair, most people DID vote for THAT president.

>>726462468
I am not defending anyone. But Apart from the bribery, the theft from his charity, the fraud and all the things he has got away with so far.... let's just wait and see how long his thievery and backhanders and bribes and foreign payments and tax avoidance can carry on. I give it a year at most before his licence to practice business in New York is withdrawn, and his staff start facing corruption charges.

>>726464751
You know he's talking about the disgustingly homogenous views those highly populous areas hold because the democrats hold most of the power their and it is basically standerdised into their schooling system.

>>726462525
emoluments clause.

sorry to burst your bubble with reality.

the commander in thief will go down

>>726464582
not really, the most money would decide.

how many people actually researched or were shown information about all the candidates for the presidency?

you only saw paid advertisements and got a general feel for a candidate, namely trump, sanders, and clinton. and even among those three, does even 1% of our population know what kind of work ethic they have or how they would have dealt with various issues? clinton said women need more money, trump said immigrants are bad, and sanders said everyone should have free education. literally nobody running for president presented how they would make shit better. a lot of trumps ideas may make shit better for some people but not others, but we're only assessing that after the election is already over and it's too late.

anyway, having the most dense cities determine the president of a country is like having the loudest family member decide how household income is spent. don't liberals like diversity anyway? why shouldn't rural groups be represented fairly?

>>726461131
"""""""""""won*""""""""""""

*winning may exclude actually having majority support from the American people, meaning that the vast majority of the country hates him and the people who align with him like you, and the more you act out and identify yourself the more people will mobilize against you, soooooo... yeah... you "won."

>>726462691
>green morons
smarter guys than you are saying the opposite...

>>726462702
this sounds like it was generated by a bot...

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>>726464827

>Well there's two variations of fake news, the left uses fake news to mean "news that is literally made up" The right use the term to mean "news I don't like." There's a big difference.

It's good that you are that self-aware. There might be help for you.

>>726461390
>"Snowflake!"

Heh, heh. That'll show em.

You people amaze me with your level of dunning kruger

>>726464982
As if that applies hear have you even followed what he has Ben doing if that applied Obama would have been empeached years ago.

>>726456420

because your dumb fucking nigger president spent money on all manner of bullshit and now the country is forced to back profitable enterprise in order to recover the economy he shat on with no regard for the future.

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>>726464827
This. Hand wringing dumbfuck liberal luvvies use the term fake news to rubbish any article that hurts their "feels"

>>726463033
while USA is planning to increase its use of coal. So, let me get this right - you think that China, who are trying to reduce their use, are bad, and that they should increase it, like the US?

>>726465116
Triggered snowflake

>>726465165
10/10

>>726462181
Nobody with an education ever thought Americans could actually be this stupid.

Heh, that'll show em.

>>726465022

Its more people.

It's more people there, BECAUSE there is more money. More money, more jobs, etc.

But it IS more people, or most or rather the majority.

Do the majority also have more money? Duh.

The opposite of what you said is true. Having the most densely populated areas not decide is like having the autistic kid who eats alone at lunch complain about certain tables deciding everything and how him and the kid at the other end of his table shouldn't be subjected to the whims or just a couple "densely seated" tables.

>>726463219
this (repeated argument - is it one of the oil shill playbook arguments and talking points?) is just silly. Yes they now have terrible air pollution. They are working to reduce it. so?

it is like the "Hey it snowed, Global warming must be a myth" argument. Local, specific climate events do not always reflect long term global (or countrywide) changes

Yes it is shitty to breath in London some days - but they have reduced their particulate output by massive restrictions on traffic and the air is much better than it was, and will get better as new regulations bite. that does not mean we should go back to burning coal in a million fireplaces in London, and return to smog killing people like it did in the fifties. Which is about the time that America Was Great according to Trump...

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So the information that Obama wire tapped Trump tower, which Trump got from breitbart, wasn't fake news?

>inb4 Comey hates Trump

Comey made Trump president by reopening the investigation in Clinton's emails 10 days before the election. But lets conveniently forget about that...

>>726465203
How do people still think this is just the most scathing retort?

retards

It's the rural rustbelt freaks who voted this idiot in office. They better go pick my food, before we in silicon valley automate your jobs.

>>726463344
yes all are biased - but that is not to say that ll are untrustworthy, or cannot be read with an open mind to assess the facts. But when some (Infowars and brietbart) just make up shit, then they cannot be trusted to tell you any facts at all...

>>726464886
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH

boom

drop that fuckin mic anon

>>726465430
More money? I think you meant more inflation, more crime, and more homeless people who can't find work.

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>>726465482
>triggering confirmed

kek

>>726465543
Yea the rust belt like Wisconsin. Also I'm an engineer numb nuts.

>>726462559
Solar Is Going to Get Ridiculously Cheap

http://fortune.com/2016/06/13/solar-to-get-crazy-cheap/

This is from Fortune magazine, so it is probably fake news produced by a bunch of patchouli oil smelling, hemp wearing liberal faggots

>>726465406
>If I put obamas face on it, it makes it true!

The real shit is, it's gonna take roughly 10 more years before anyone gives a shit enough to change anything and by then we'll be russ- wait, no fuck that and fuck you too.

>>726465406
saved :^)

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But trump makes anime real.

>>726463571
funny though that all those terrible things Obama did (or failed to do)... Has Trump addressed any of them?

nope, don't think so. Trump has said he approves of torture and wants more of it. No word of Gitmo closing. Wiretapping - expect more. Wikileaks - ok, he might favor them since they helped him win, but if they step on his toes - lawsuits are the least of their worries. troop levels - the man is upping the military budget and is looking for a war with Muslims.
prosecute the banks.... employs all the bankers.
DOMA - is that likely to be repealed by Trump or this congress?
or the other two bills?

and as for Affordable care act - well, TrumpCare is looking pretty fucking shady from here.

so basically - every single thing you say was wrong with Obama is wrong with trump, plus he is a fraudulent looter who is going to run the economy into the ground while pocketing billions.

sorry, but he can be, and is, a lot worse than Obama.

>>726456420
Because kek wills it. I aint gotta explain shit.

>>726456420
Modern art is not art. The art scene is a breeding ground for culteral marxism and other degeneracies. The workimg class is the backbone of society. They get no funding for building the infrastructure you enjoy. This is why it is depleting. When rich people bitch about art funding the rest of the world sees you as spoiled little faggots. Also, this is why you are a virgin.

>>726466005
Truth speaks.

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>>726456420
>>726465919

>Trump's voters

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>>726465406

>>726465921
Your just salt. I'm impressed with his policies so far. Every headline is about how he is doing what he told us he would do. this is why I voted him in.

>>726463829
>Killary
>WW3
A Trump thread without "Killary starting WW3" would be like a Kiss concert where they don't play "Rock and Roll All Night"

>>726463669
your arguments are just nonsense.

yes it will take beijing a long time to be fully green - at least they are trying, not going backward like Trump wants America to do. and it may be a lot quicker than 2040 - they are pushing the tech forward, and moving fast.

no of coure the Uk didn't turn off all the lights - but they have made stpes to a fully green energy system (and need to make a lot more) The idea that they could run for even a day would have been laughed at ten years ago - as I say, things are developing faster than people thought. same for GErmany - and so what they are a quarter the size of the US - the US jsut builds four times as many solar panels - with four times as many people. not diffcilt.

It amazes me when people say "oh the USA is too big to do that (universal health care or green energy or free higher education) what, the US is just not good at organising stuff? Cant get its shit together? or is it that the millionaires are making too much money out of the bad organisation and the private health care and energy companies?

>>726466005
>The art scene is a breeding ground for culteral marxism and other degeneracies.

100% this, we should be defunding all such cesspits, everyone should be applauding Trump on this.

>>726458806
Environmentalists are quite often ignorant about how to address environmental problems and issues. They are not wrong that these things need to be addressed however. We do need to find a more reliable and cleaner way to meet our growing energy needs. That's not just an environmental concern either, but also an economic and technological one.

Short term we should focus on nuclear energy, improving it and making it safer and more efficient. It's already very safe and efficient though. Even considering the few rare disasters, it has not been as devastating as our reliance on oil has been. It has not been as devastating as the deforestation of Europe to produce charcoal during the Middle Ages was, and continues to be.

Long term we should work on ways to harness more and more of our sun's energy, until we can harness 100% of it. I don't mean solar panels either. I mean literally mastering and controlling the Sun. It is well within the laws of physics to do so, though still well beyond our current technological ability. We should be focused on changing that, as well as colonizing the solar system and using it's resources to our advantage. The mere act of doing this, will most certainly lead to the sort of technological advances needed to begin harnessing the sun more efficiently.

Most importantly ideology must be shoved aside. Both left and right wing extremism is a hindrance to civilization and it's advancement. Extremism of any stripe must be supressed and utterly crushed in order for humanity to survive and continue to thrive.

>>726466245
Even without the threat of climate change, the pursuit of clean, renewable energy in and of itself is a noble goal.

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>>726466311

>>The art scene is a breeding ground for culteral marxism and other degeneracies.
>100% this, we should be defunding all such cesspits, everyone should be applauding Trump on this.

>>726456420
Because it generates money for President/Congress/CEO's

That's why the government does anything ever. Get your head out of your ass, you aren't a special snowflake. Your feelings don't matter. You are a resource used to earn them more money. Get over it.

>>726466131
hot damn

>>726463829
nope, and nope. You know that the Hillary wants war with Russia meme (so frequently put up here last summer) was a russian shill bot lie? Check her statements (in the debate, live to the nation) that she wanted to negotiate with Russia about Syria, not impose a no fly zone, and not go to war with them.

russian shill lies, fake news, Trump supporters. All the same.

and as for the idea that her domestic or foreign policy would in any way be worse than Trumps... only if you are multi millionaire would you think that.

>>726466245
You know China is making most of their progress on the back of Christian, Muslim, Falengong slave labor. Are you saying we should enslave the blacks again?

>hates trump
>gets paid by anti-trump organizations to shitpost about him all day long
>only has a job because of trump

Sage all shill threads

>>726464237
strawman.
Beck's a shill

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MUSLIM REFUGEE GUNMAN JUST KILLED TWO MEN OUTSIDE OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT

>THANK YOU EMPEROR TRUMP FOR PROTECTING US FROM THE REFUGEE MUSLIM SCUM
>HE LITERALLY DOES IT FOR FREE

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>>726466454
>t. ShareBlue

>>726464004
sadly, when he won, if this was true, he would have started doing sane things and good policies. but it turns out he actually meant all the batshit crazy stuff. Still looking forward to ISIS being destroyed in thirty days though...

>>726466454
You half to have a public and a privet policy. - Hillary ( tell them you want peace in your speech, tell all your friends your going to wage a proxy war with Russia using countries in the Middle East.

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When you examine the men in America who have truly been great presidents and you examine their characters and tendencies, habits, education, abilities and accomplishments there is a chasm between those men and Donald Trump.

The ability to be engaged, aware, to have empathy of and for those citizens who are governed, to be a student of history to have a world view well it does not boil down to an empty sales message of Make America Great … again. What is this again part he speaks of?

Oh I know when FDR was alive and we had a Democratic government that went to war to defeat Nazi’s or a Democratic Government that put the goal forward to put a man on the moon and funded it, or Democratic Presidents who turned deficits into surpluses or - an Abraham Lincoln who had empathy for those he defeated and spoke the words to heal and bind up the nations wounds and who paid for saving the nation with his very life.

Not a bully, a braggart, a con man, a pussy grabbing adulterer, one who demeans the disabled, one whose skin is so thin that he tweets his displeasure, one who picks a cabinet that has NOTHING in common with the people he seeks to govern, one who demands but has not earned nor is worthy of respect and one who has the largest deficit of voters - EVER and you ask us if it is possible that he might end up being “terrific”?

No not terrific but close - terrifying. My deepest sympathies from your Dutch friends who respect you, who love you, who care about you and who are wondering what in G-d’s name possessed you to vote this monster into office?

>>726466432
>>726466432
>>726466432
/thread is over guys. We got our answer.

>>726456420
Faggot

>>726466637
>implying we'd be better off with the spirit cooking witch

>>726464019
the fact that CNN has two stories, by two different journalists, interpreting the facts they have in two different ways does not show that any or either of those stories is "fake" or wrong. but you are obviously not sophisticated enough to understand that.

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>>726466555
All hail the emperor!

>>726466585
>thinks there is a way to get paid to shill for the left
>doesn't immediately start shilling for the left

>>726456420
Because wind energy is not as sustainable as we were led to believe, and to keep one of the largest industries in America from going tits up immediately, and screwing 20% of the population.

>Cutting all funding for the arts
Whew lad.

>>726462560
>tfw you fund the military enough so they can return from the pre-WW2 numbers obama put us at, while children are recovering from lead poisoning during obama's watch, with his EPA, in democrat run flint Michigan.

Ftfy

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>>726466555

>MUSLIM REFUGEE GUNMAN JUST KILLED TWO MEN OUTSIDE OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT

How many kids were shot at school in 'murrca last week? Thanks Trump for stricter gun laws.

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>>726466585

Interesting to look at doesn't feel starving children. Art is an absolute waste of talent potential and resources of any kind currently china has no coal to mine itself and will pay us good I bet

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>>726466555

>JUST KILLED TWO MEN

Liar. See, this is why people call you alt-righters fake.

>>726466821
Most of those shooting were in California, Chicago. Aka where we have strict gun laws it's almost as it they have the opposite effect.

>>726466821
Sorry you live in a shit-tier country and can't even own a sharp knife lmao

>safe
>country over run with mudslims lol

>>726466555
Source or Trump supporter?

>>726463982
Military is most of the budget??? Hahahah how much fucking CNN do you watch? Government handouts like Medicaid, welfare, and social security account for almost 70% of the budget you fucking goon.

I am an artist. I 100% support axing the NEA. There's no good reason to subsidize art at a time like this. The most the govt. should do is purchase/add to it's collection important paintings

>>726456420
See the electronic device that you used to create you message? If not for this antiquated resources, you'd be doing /b/ via snail mail. So guys or GTFO, faggot

>>726459996
Actually government subsidizes coal and oil because it's getting wrecked by natural gas. So yes the government is paying coal miners to do thier jobs because market forces would otherwise have them out of work.

>>726458806
Wind turbines are terrible for the environment - they kill a ton of birds every day and mess up the eco-system around it.

>>726466245
>Fully Green
Nigga, did you even read? China is the world's largest polluter. The vast majority of their energy comes from coal. The other offsets are usually from nuclear energy. Cities like Beijing do not have the space for wind energy, nor are they in a good place to receive solar energy. Are you really that much of a retard that you don't understand what "green energy" is?

>>726466354

Forget noble, its just smart.

>>726466350
>Deforestation of Europe to produce charcoal during the middle ages

I was all on board until you became a blithering retard.

>>726466778

That's because they're getting paid in Starbucks gift cards

>>726466454
Hi ShareBlue. Have a link.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-calls-no-fly-zones-syria

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Drumpfkins will defend this.

>>726466998
fucking google it dude

>>726467066

Great.

He is raising the budget on social security too.

Campaign promise budget plan and all that.

So he is still raising in the biggest spenders.

>>726461922
Wow the cherry picking. The first two are the same thing and are the retard way of looking at it. Someone post the graph of the change in the deficit since bush. This is basic economics but retards actually believe the debt is what matters. Didn't even read the rest, first two points so autostic.

>>726466555
These news are so fake even the deleted emails couldn't support them. Literally has to be ach-right to belive them

>>726461969
Cry more faggot

>>726460162
Fox has Bernie as the most liked politician. Almost twice as popular as trump even.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/15/fox-news-poll-34-voters-favor-gop-health-care-plan.html

>>726459632
>the everyone else is doing it - so should we meme

Except that the US currently has millions of people within the system that would benefit, but aren't actually paying into it. Literally one of the reasons why premiums skyrocketed with Obamacare.

You have a bunch of assholes waiting for free shit, but don't want to contribute. And you have more people thrown into the pot with expensive care requirements/costs, with not enough people to pay into it. This is why it doesn't work.

>>726466820
>That was caused by fracking, that Clinton and Obama fully supported

ftfy

>>726467307
Don't believe it, if that was his position it probably has changed by now if not we'll block it no one wants sensorship.

Newer cleaner tech

What about effective? Efficient? Solar is baaaad we need bigger capacitors

Stop talking to me about clean energy
The ocean +some turbines =winwinwin "BUT THE DOLPHINS" X.X
Go back to your hick fam and color with crayons
Coal statues - do you know how to work with coal? Have you ever lit a coal grill - your really stupid aren't you? You probably believe words can keep you safe

>>726467478
>lol
Did you even watch his debates?

>>726467550
Well yes but I don't remember an anti porn stance.

Radical Islamic terrorists
Will kidnap you remove your clit put you in a berka and fuck you till you can't pop out babies
Oh your a man? We will just torture you until you die .. white boy .

"We need art so Hicks can make money that no one can afford to pay" -logic

>>726459350
Lol

>Wiretapping claims already investigated false
>Campaign already has traitors connected with Russians
>Can be several in his administration have already resigned
>Approval rating after 60 days lowest in the history of the US Presidency
>Senior Citizen voters and supporters previously on the ACA feel betrayed by him dismantling programs they needed
>Proposed border wall will not be complete in his fucking lifetime much less his presidency term
>Federal Judges block two of his proposed travel bans

The Trump Presidency is already grinding to a halt. Soon it will be impeachment time and your supposed god emperor will be wrested from his throne. Enjoy while it last trumpkins.

>>726458257
I'm not a trump fan but arts and meals on wheels should be handle by the state not the federal govt ... the problem is niggers.. if you have a flat tire throwing handfuls of money at it won't fix the tire.. point is don't depend on the government don't be a nigger ...

>>726467953
Why do you hate democracy so much? He is a fairly elected leader who has not abused his power as Obama so often did, why do you insist on trying to empeached him?

>>726466183
oh, so pointing out that all the things the poster was blaming Obama for are exactly the things Trump is doing, is me crying salty tears?

I think you are just stupid. His policies are shit tier, and going to wreck the economy and destroy the little goodwill Obama managed to claw back after Bush fucked our reputation worldwide. You wanted no funding for arts, worse health care coverage, an undermined judiciary and a huge tax cut for millionaires? Really?

>>726459632
Congrats your father raised a pussy

>>726468186
Wow the fucking stupid is strong with this one.... I mean like 8 flavors of stupid , licking cherry flavored windows on the short bus stupid. Someone should just shit on your chest and call you a bitch

>>726466432
sorry, cynical fool, but while that is how Trump is playing it, and the Republicans always do, those of us with hearts and brains think that the government should be for the people.

>>726458806
this must be b8

>>726468363
Stop depending on the government.. don't be a nigger!!!!!!!!!

>>726466457
good. Anyone who has a religious belief is clearly not a rational human being capable of directing their own live properly, and should be enslaved for their own protection.

>>726467478
You are already loosing net neutrality and you Will loose porn and you will enjoy it

>>726466585
>>>726466454 (You)
>>t. ShareBlue

you think that just because someone tells the truth they have to be paid by Democrats? how sad, that you have accepted that Trump only lies, and truth is never from republican lips.

>>726467953
>Wiretapping investigation still ongoing
>Campaign has had 2 people with ties to Russia, but nothing that the DNC didn't have
>Approval ratings are accurate, just like polls
>Betrayed people by doing exactly what he said he was going to do
>Border wall getting funded as early as the end of March, companies already being hired to start construction
>Federal judges blocking travel bans that are the exact same as Obama in 2015

Keep dreaming fuccboi.

>>726468186
>Going to wreck the economy
>Literally making the debt do a 180
>Economy is strongest its ever been
Are you just deluded or what, fella?

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This, it is fucking beautiful. Look at all the scum ITT crying. There's gonna be 8 years of this. 8 years of seeing dumbfuck libshits in agony. It warms my heart lol :^)

>>726468186
Well I'm sorry I don't want a huge nany state to take care of me like a child I'd rather not pay for your overpriced healthcare. Also I believe wat he has done so far will help the economy, and our forign relations are much better with trump he is willing to negotiate not only with people like the Canadian prime minister but also to the leader of Russia.

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>>726468696
Because trump is healthy to live 8 years?

Fat, old and unhealthy

>>726468696
If they don't straighten up its going to be 8 years of trump and then another 4 of some other republican

>>726468046
New thread

>>726468696
This. So much butthurt it is fucking hilarious. Trump triggered all the liberal scum of the earth at once

>>726468784
>Fat old and unhealthy
https://youtu.be/Yt3A5H3fRHU

>>726466633
Is a privet policy the same thing as a hedge fund?

I think you meant Private. and she was right - you do not tell people you are negotiating with all your weaknesses and all you desire up front. but there is no evidence that she wanted world war three.

in fact if you read her emails - why not they are easy to get to - you will see how often she tries to advocate for peaceful means, or wants to limit military action, or to intervene only because it will save lives.

the hillary is a war monger meme was another trump (Putin) lie.


sorry, but facts do not support your biases.

>>726468616

Nah it's because you shills sound like out dated robots

>>726468619
Shut your stupid ass. You automatically invalidated everything you said by using the term "fuccboi" Back to the basement with you, you fucking loser

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So libtards explain your cum sucking logic

>>726468788
That's true lbs love to complain but if they hadn't have been so corrupt and had listened to the concerns of lower class people they wouldn't be in this mess.

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>>726468877
Can we please stay on topic Cletus. We are talking about your lord trump stupid republicuck. He's not healthy to survive 2 terms.

>>726466748
you know the spirit cooking thing was also a lie? real fake news from Brietbart and Infowars. Shit tier shit flinging.

and you know that we would be better off with anyone but Trump...

>>726461725
>implying Trump didn't run a more aggressive online campaign
You're either too embarrassed to admit or too retarded to notice that you've been brainwashed.

>>726456420
Arts? What arts? Throwing shit on a canvas?
All arts funding should be cut, until artists stop being so goddamn lazy and pretentious

>>726462097
DENMARK IS THE SIZE OF FUCKING MARYLAND. do you think that putting up a handfull of windmill farms in denmark is a constructional feat?
i agree though, fossil fuels is not something that we want to keep using but, as fareed zacharia said, “you can’t vilify oil...”
it’s gonna happen faggot but don’t ever expect anything in life to happen overnight just because it’s the right thing to do. you’re obviously a millenial and young so you think things change in the real world as fast as they do while your at college and experience change every month. what you really have to realize is that fossil fuels are on their way out and have been since the 70’s. and to put things in perspective ever since man has used fossil fuels he has always looked for a way to refine them and make the fuel more efficient because people have complained about smoke, smog, acid rain, explosions black lung, etc. etc. since we started buying crude oil and pitch for heat. you realize that we almost caused the extinction of whales just for a few gallons of oil we extracted from the whale to light our fucking lamps.
what you should do is be less preachy and actually work for a company or cause that you are always bitching about. im a gen x’er and when we didn’t like the way things were we actually invested our time and money into the very projects we deemed better for the common good. it’s so fucking sad that you millenials actually think that typing shit on tumblr and facebook is a noble way to make change and it’s nothing but immature insults and whining. i joined the peace corp after college and was proud when rap music became mainstream and white people of my generation became less rascist. i voted democrat my whole life but i voted trump because your version of liberal is not what i grew up with or anyone of my generation or our parents. do you know how insulting it is to be told my a 25 year old that i should be dead because im a “cis white male?"

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>>726468935
You tell em Cletus!!!

>>726469024
Well we're better of with anyone but Obama

>>726467447
You blame poor people, "wanting free shit"
Yet not even a glance towards the giants like Walmart who continually undermine our society by paying people peanuts, and expecting the government to make up the difference.
Stand up for the billionaires. Just like idiot southerners stood up for the slave owners.
Christ you fucking morons are inept.

I hope you and your family die.

>>726468878
Well this being some sort of republican ruse they brainwash people into beleaving is false because I oly listen to lib sources and this is the conclusion I have come to.

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>>726456420
There will still be arts in this country.

Cutting funding to the NEA will just mean less crucifixes submerged in urine, less $20 bills being handed out to illegal aliens crossing the border, and less of this literal shit art.

>>726469255
>Beleaving

Get the fuck out of here retard

>>726469307
More weapons though. Lots more. Since agent orange needs to compensate for his lack of brains with more weapons.

>>726466977
I love this argument. We have lax laws in freedum county texas where there are only fifty people, and no one gets shot. but when you put in strict laws (Like in poverty struck nigger ward, big city chigago with a million junky niggers) they have a high shooting rate. Obviously we should strike down all the gun controls everywhere and then the nigger drug gangs would stop shooting each other.

duh. I voted Trump.

>>726468619
>"I’m not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid."
>Supports Republican bill cutting Medicaid
>Doing what he said he would

>>726469338
Retard? Just because I came hear from Seria and English is not my first language does not mean you can call me a retard.

>>726467124
not true.

>>726469601
Plz provide evidence.

>>726468619
Comey won't find anything because there's nothing to find.

>>726467131
nigga do you even read. Yes they are a huge polluter now. point is they are working to be a less polluting nation, and aim for zero. Unlike Trump who is putting forward help to make america a great polluter again.

>>726467201
why say this - he is right - massive deforestation of europe happened, and made huge changes to the environment which are still affecting our climate and weather.

>>726469715
This is true of Russian hackers.

>>726468619
Funded by congress.

>Buh, buh Mexico is gonna pay for the wall!

No, they aren't. We will. If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you.

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>>726466555

>MUSLIM REFUGEE GUNMAN JUST KILLED TWO MEN OUTSIDE OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT

How can you be so wrong so many times in one sentence. #FakeNews

>>726467447
except that the US currently pays twice what all those other countries pay for health care that does not cover everyone.

you would all pay less - even if no one new was added as a payer - if you got rid off the huge costs of insurance companies profits and helath care companies profits. You think that managers in the National Heath Service in England get fifty million a year? nope.

The US pays double per head. and leaves out millions. A single payer system, universal coverage, with no layers of insurance, HMO and private ownership of facilities, would reduce costs, and improve the national health, bring back millions of days in lost work through treatable ill health.

>>726467477
try reading this - and ask yourself why the US press didn't run with it, and how many times did Trump take the foreign money and promise "influence"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/24/exclusive-investigation-donald-trump-faces-foreign-donor-fundrai/

>>726467507
>Coal statues - do you know how to work with coal?

yes. I have carved coal myself.. and I can light a fire. With wood, charcoal, coal, peat, lignite and even Doritos.

I can make papersticks. I can light a fire with a flint and steel, or a firebow.

and I think ocean turbines area great idea.

>>726467201
What exactly do you have a problem with about this? It is well known and documented that Medieval Europe relied almost exclusively on charcoal for it's energy needs. It is well known and documented that the continent underwent catastrophic deforestation to meet that demand. Are you implying that blacksmiths used alternative fuel sources to power their forge? If so then what was this mysterious fuel source?

For modern hobby blacksmiths coal, and propane are the most commonly used fuels, though petroleum and electricity are viable as well, but much more costly. None of them were readily available, or even known to Medieval blacksmiths. Coal has been known since ancient, even prehistoric times, but it was not readily available to Medieval Europeans, whereas charcoal was easy to produce, and naively thought to be effectively unlimited in supply. Again, this is well-known and documented, and is not considered controversial by Medieval historians in any sense.