Where I live (Georgia, USA), you can't purchase alcohol

>But when it comes to legislation, they're not just pointing at the bible to win arguments and pass laws.

They do.

>>726389360
>But when it comes to legislation, they're not just pointing at the bible to win arguments and pass laws.
Yes they are, and they get away with it because the rural trash are too stupid to know what's good for them.

>>726389360
Where I live you can only purchase beer and wine on Sundays, you can't buy hard liquor.

In Minnesota you can't buy liquor in a grocery store, except 3.2% beer. Thankfully though they just changed the law to make liquor stores ok to be open on Sunday.

>>726389360
You need to come to Montreal. Legal drinking age is 18 and you can get beer anytime of the day at any convenience store. Theres even a 25hr store packed with molson 10 for $5. Thats CAD and for 1 liter.

>>726389478
But they literally don't. It's more that people vote because those bible thumpers won't reelect them. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just curious about the actual debate in favor of those bans.

>>726389657
>hurrrr rural people are stupid that's why trump got elected right guuuuuuysssszzz?

yawn
>>726389659
It used to be like that here, but we can buy liquor on Sundays now. Just not until 12:30pm. It's like why make us wait that long?

>>726390162
Good on you, MN.

>>726390617
That's awesome, mate!

>>726390617
A 25 hour store?!?!?! I'm jealous. We only have 24 hours in a day in Alberta. You French always have to be different eh.

>>726389360
If you need booze that early on a Sunday, you're an alcoholic.

Get help, faggot

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Who buys liquor at 10:00 am on a Sunday

>>726391217
Theres actually a store called the 25 hr store. Its pretty neat, good selection of cheap alcohol.

Cry about it.

Here, you can't buy any kind of alcohol on sundays.

I tried to buy a 6 pack Saturday night at 12:05 AM (So, barely Sunday morning) and was turned down.

>>726389360
why can't you buy it on the rest of the days of the week?

>>726391377
That is pretty cool.

>>726390973
>I'm just curious about the actual debate in favor of those bans.

Sundays are for church and family. Your degenerate ass shouldnt be getting drunk. You should be worshiping Jesus and spending quality time with your wife and kids.

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>>726392015
We need to take Seperation of Church and state off the books. What kind of Anti-American traitor came up with that?

There should be Sate-Mandated Church attendance on Sundays, also.

>>726392015
Not everyone is Christian. My faith is getting drunk on Sundays from 7am. US Constitution protects my right to practice my religion. Christians shouldn't be able to tell me what to do.

>>726392291
>There should be Sate-Mandated Church attendance on Sundays, also.

Im all for it. Technically that wouldnt be illegal so long as you got to pick your religion and church.

>>726392299

Funny enough your "religion" isnt an actual religion, and there is nothing stopping anyone from ruling as such. Ask the Pastafarians how nicely the courts were to them when they tried the whole "but it IS a religion and you cant tell us otherwise"

>>726389360
>>726392015
You loony Christians and your silly nonsense.

It's nice to know you're all in the same place on Sundays. Easy targets.

>>726392635
You don't get to say one made up fantasy is religion and another is not.

>>726392999
Sure he does. Because his made-up fairy tale is the most legitimate.

It says so right in that book that was written 200 years after the contents happened.

>>726390973
Nobody said anything about Trump but rural people being stupid is observable fact.

>>726393174
Many scientists and engineers from the original Bell Labs that invented the transistor were from rural areas.

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If God doesn't exist, who wrote the Bible?

Checkmate, Atheists.

I guess J.K Rowling doesn't exist. I guess Dr. Seuss doesn't exist. Get a brain morons.

>>726392999

Actually, yes you do. Its been ruled on multiple times. Beyond that, freedom of religion does not over ride the law to begin with. IE Rastafarians are not legally allowed to possess marijuana whenever or wherever they want in states it is illegal. You are living in a fantasy world

>>726392912
Hello Dillion Roof. I didnt know they let you have internet access in the prisons isolation wing

On a side note, yes please keep making comments like that. You help prove the "degeneracy of anti religion" with every word you utter

>>726393174
Calling rural folks "stupid" is what got Trump elected.

Call them "uneducated" and help them pick themselves up when all the coal and farm jobs were gone.

I'm a liberal and this name-calling shit is why rural folks hate us. They would otherwise love liberals if we made efforts to help them too.

>>726393344
Which rulings, exactly?

Feel like pointing to some case law?

>>726393399
>Calling rural folks "stupid" is what got Trump elected.

Its a big part of it.

>>They would otherwise love liberals if we made efforts to help them too.

Not very true. You will need to drop the LGBT support, support of abortion, and support of illegal immigrants as well. The idea that "farms cant exist without immigrant workers" is BS spouted by California factory farm owners who depend on the cheap labor.

>>726393625
It's. You're fucking stupid.

>>726393625
>"farms cant exist without immigrant workers" is BS
This is true, farms can exist without immigrant workers but produce becomes more expensive because you're paying workers legal wages. It's more important for all Americans to have access to cheap produce than it is that a small minority of rural filth get jobs.

>>726391463
Indiana fag detected

>>726393344
>Freedom of religion does not override the law

Is that because it IS law?

>>726393625
>LGBT support, support of abortion
Both of these tie into their religious beliefs. Anybody who allows their religious beliefs to dictate how they vote is stupid. Rural people are stupid.

>>726393786
South Carolina.

>>726393539

First thing that came up on Google. Id tell you to use google, but im sure you will just say the burden of proof is on me.

The idea religion is an automatic "dont go to prison" card is laughable and not supported by law in the least. Mormons go to prison for polygamy. Rastafarians go to prison for pot use, and Pastafarians have been ruled that they are just fucking whack jobs

I live in Georgia as well and hate this fucking law. Mainly because I'm an alcoholic Kek.

>>726393886
I'm not religious and I believe abortion is murder, so what do you have to say about that?

>>726394113
You're also stupid but for different reasons. I bet you believe abortion should be illegal while simultaneously believing that government is too obtrusive and should stay out of the affairs of the average person.

>>726389360
The south is primarily composed of Democrats and they always have been. Democrats tend to sway towards religion, abstinence all that bullshit. Slavery too can't forget that's who ran slavery for so long. Have fun with no licker op.

>>726394066
I wonder why Christian's don't go to prison for raping little boys.

>>726393779

The myth was started by factory farm owners who depend on the super low wages. Go to Iowa and count the number of Mexicans working in corn and wheat fields. Its dam near zero. Go to Oklahoma and do the same, its higher but not by much (most mexicans in Oklahoma and Texas for example work in slaughter houses)

Now go to a factory farm in California and count... you wont find an American citizen for hundreds of miles

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>>726389360
Stop being an alcoholic and get to work.

>>726393296
Lots of smart people are from rural areas. They grow up, go to school, and move to the city to do great things with the other smart folks there. It's the ones that never leave Shitsville who are dumber than a box of rocks.

>>726394310
I didn't say it should be illegal, just that it's undeniably murder. Most abortions are black people.

So, keep it up, I say.

>>726394460
Please take a basic U.S. history class that touches on the state of political affairs in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

>>726394066
Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat

I mean the burden of proof has always been on he who makes a claim. Or does that not fit your narrative?

Religion has been and always will be a means for people to cope with their limited understanding of the world in which they live. Science is a similar field of philosophy, but is backed by what we currently understand about our world. Science is reaffirmed by repeatable experimental results. Religion is reaffirmed by circular reasoning.

Whichever you feel is most legitimate has most to do with the situation into which you were born.

>>726393881

No, it is because the law is the law, and if you want to claim some kind of exemption from the law you better have some dam good proof, solid case law behind you, and keep your fingers crossed the judge and jury dont call BS on your claim

>>726394569
People get murdered. A fetus is not a person. If they were people they wouldn't be literally attached to a person's body, sucking nutrients from them. That's a parasite, not a person.

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>>726391346
What he said.

>Have some nigger pussy, you'll feel better.

>>726393886

Right... you cant be against murder unless you are religious. You also cant find something disgusting, sickening, and degenerate without a religion telling you to think that way either

>>726394540
I say again, it's more important that produce is cheap than it is that rural people have work.

Atl faggot here. You remember when we couldn't even purchase alcohol on a Sunday day? Must be a youngfag

>>726393979
Oh. I thought my state was the only one backwards enough to have that law.

>>726394595
Hey, I love niggers up here in the north ok. The south hates niggers. Why don't you just go outside for once.

>>726389360
boohoo.
here in texas, you can't buy hard liquor at all on Sundays. only beer...after 12pm.

>>726394540
Aren't corn and wheat easily harvested by machines unlike other produce which actually has to be picked by hand?

>>726394641
Religious freedom is protected by the Constitution.

A Muslim has as much a right to practice as does a Christian.

>>726394697
And it becomes a person when it changes location to outside the mothers body? At what phase? When it's 50 percent out, or all the way out?

Or is it when the umbilical cord is cut?

How about coma patients? They are reliant on machines to keep them alive and are not self sufficient.

If you were to go into a hospital and kill a brandead person who can't live without a breathing machine, would that be murder?

>>726394310

abortion IS murder. We dont need abortion laws. The act is already covered under felony murder laws.

>>726394470

hurrdurrr. Your banter is on the level of a drunk australian

>>726392015
Plus all drunk people do, especially day drinkers, is wander around breaking into cars, houses, raping children, murdering homeless, shitting in the streets, and getting into hard drugs and bringing the safety of everyone down

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>>726393625
More lib fag shit that will finally kill the democrat party

>>726389360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQgbxGI_mqE
because of this song

>>726394918
>At what phase?
At birth, the part when you are no longer sucking nutrition from someone's body and your own normal bodily functions take over.

>>726395012
Nah that's niggers. White drunks just sit around the house all day.

>>726394641
Yeah, that's been working really well hasn't it?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2013/11/18/fraud-thriving-in-u-s-churches-but-you-wouldnt-know-it/#7140d870d9d4

>>inb4 Forbes is fake news.

I think most reasonable people would be more comfortable with pot smoking hippies than embezzling evangelical pricks that steal from the poor.

>>726389360
It goes back to the early seventies and the so called blues laws where it was illegal to not only buy alcohol on Sunday but toys and other things as well. In fact for the most part you could only buy food on Sunday. Then they relaxed it and made it only apply to alcohol. the reasoning is to prevent drunks in churches.

>>726395157
Of course fraud thrives in churches, the whole setup is perfect for taking money.

>>726395050
Why is that the standard for personhood? What does it matter if it sucks nutrients? Why does that make it not a person?

Also, I'd appreciate if you'd answer my earlier question.

If you walk into a hospital and pull the plug on a coma patient or similar, is that murder?

What's the difference? They aren't self sufficient.

>>726389360
Your problem is that you're a retard. You assume that there aren't bullshit laws like this everywhere. I can't buy a bottle of goddamn wine in the grocery store, and I live in NY state. When I lived in Alafuckingbama I could, but not in New York! There's stupid laws everywhere.

>>726390617
Yeah come to montreal where you get taxes on your taxes and liquor stores are state-owned and run by price-gouging jews.
But hey at least you're free to get fucked up the ass 24/7.

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>>726392635
I'm going to the church of rastafarian

>>726394983
>Avoiding the question

>>726394918
i would argue until you are self aware but that wouldnt be until about 4 years old

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>>726395050
dude

what if, like

What if a baby is being born

and is 90 percent of the way out

then you push it back in

and then kill it

Is that murder?

Rly makes u think huh

>>726395302
People occasionally wake up from comas. Remove a fetus from a womb before birth and it will not survive. Person v. parasite.

>>726395511
>Run by jews
>Cheap beer

I thought Jews were supposed to be tight about money

>>726394612

My "claim" is solidly settled law. Your "claim" is that none of that matters, ive got religion on my side

>>726394764

Your guac at Chipotle isnt a pressing national concern. Corn, wheat, barely, oats, oranges, tomatoes, etc are all harvested in majority white agricultural zones. Nuts and figs arent exactly American staple crops, nor are you going to find too many people on food stamps buying walnuts and kiwi

>>726394901
All US agriculture is 99% mechanized. You have to go to places like India to still find things like Strawberries harvested by hand

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>>726393979
What part?

In my country you can't buy alcohol in stores after 9PM. And no hard liquor between opening hours and 10AM. Beat that, Amerifags. And for all of you saying I shouldn't be buying booze at a certain time... go fuck yourselves. Who are you to tell me (or the store) when booze is appropriate? Moralfags destroying liberty, that's who y'all are.

>>726395511
quebec has like the cheapest beer in canada

>>726395651
Again I implore you to provide evidence of this claim.

If not I will consider it your opinion.

>>726395593
What if the doctors say there is a 0 percent chance of recovery?

And premature babies are born all of the time, naturally and via c-section.

>>726395666


864, Satan

>>726395544

There was no question. Just a snarky comment you know, or should know, is false

>>726395651
Also, no, that is not my claim.

My retort to your claim is that your claim is false.

High school debate 101.

>>726389360
I live in atlanta and it's the same deal with the 12:30 shit on sundays.
Just stock up during the week.
At least it's not a commie ABC state.
In alabama it used to be essentially impossible to sell any other beer outside of what miller and Anheuser-Busch made.

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>>726389360
try living in Maryland.... everything is banned/ taxed here....they fucking tax the rain here!

>>726395701
It was your own citizens that voted to pass the law that states what you can do and not do. Things like this are all bills put before the people. So your own friends and neighbors are the ones telling you when you can and can't.

>>726395765
>has like
I'm talking about liquor stores, not convenience stores.

>>726394697
>killing a bundle of cells no bigger than a pinhead is murder
you do worse than that every time you drink a beer or eat yogurt.

>>726389360
Took me forever to realize my town doesn't allow tattoo parlors or hooters

>>726395925

Then consider it my opinion. I already posted 1 article and I am not going to spend time on google looking up news articles on something that is common knowledge. This is a mongolian basket weaving forum not a dam term paper

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>>726395803
864 as well

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>>726396230

Get fucked

>>726396259
ctrl+f finds no .com links other than my forbes article.

>>726396105
The good news is that the type of people who tend to support these laws are usually older so after enough riff raff die off you may see change.

>>726389360
Texan here. No liquor sales on Sunday. Liquor stores oppose changing the law because drinkers are going to buy liquor Monday through Saturday. They won't gain any sales from being open an extra day. That's their rationale anyways.

>>726389360
>be from Japan
>can buy dirt cheap alcohol 24/7 365 a year
>from liqour stores, supermarkets, drug stores, vending machines on street corners
>no-one checks ID because everyone's trusting, I mean why would someone break the law?
>no-one acts like an asshole when drunk so there are never any fights or bouncers
it's breddy gud

>>726396420

well shit, in that case I am actually sorry. I apparently didnt post the article

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-judge-rejects-rastafarian-faith-as-defense-in-marijuana-case-20150518-story.html

I thought I copy/pasted it in my comment

>>726396579
Found Booker's reserve for $35 in Tokyo.

Fucking #basedJapan

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>>726396327
kill me i hate this place

>>726396579
No they all just wander down the street until the puke and fall over.

>>726396105
Yeah, I know, dude. I get how it works. Just needed to vent a bit. But still - it irks me that my friends and neighbours get to impose that limit. Kinda like weed being illegal.

>>726396436

The problem is, once they age, people almost universally become much more conservative.

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I live in a little town known as Pensacola Florida, and we have 2 kinds of people here.
Niggers
and Wanna be Rednecks

>>726396737
And nobody even fucks with them or tries to steal their wallets.

>>726396436
The current young gen will get old and as you get older you become more conservative and usually more church oriented since your time is closer. So don't hold your breath for that change.

>>726396813
Fucking dumbass spent money on shit to burn it and pour it on the ground and thinks it's some kind of statement.

>>726389360
Hey..., until the early 1980's you couldn't purchase anything iin Virginia on a Sunday.
Not even milk or groceries because of the "Blue Laws", which were thanks to the fanatical Christians.

>>726395837
So some Christians that raped little boys and avoided prison is a false statement?

Try harder

>>726397004
Much like the BLM movement blocking traffic and making people, even black people late for work and shit was some kind of statement.

>>726397020

Fun fact, in Lynchburg Tennessee, the home of Jack Daniels, you can not buy alcohol at all. It is a 100% dry county 24/7

>>726396668
Thanks for posting that reference. I'm going to review this case to get more details.

I'm not sure this affirms what I interpret is your supposition, though. Was this you:
>>726392291

"We need to take Seperation of Church and state off the books. What kind of Anti-American traitor came up with that?

There should be Sate-Mandated Church attendance on Sundays, also."

Germany here, 20 Beers (10 liters) for 6€ and its brewed under the 500 year old bavarian quality standards. How can you live without that???

>>726397199
Similar but not quite as I doubt any of them shelled out money.

>>726397173

Give a link to why their religion helped them avoid legal punishment. You know it is bullshit.

>>726397400
At least our leader isn't a woman


How many refugees did you take into your home?

>>726397263

Yeah..., I actually knew that.
There's still a lot of "dry counties" all over the country in the U.S..
Holdovers from "Prohibition" and the "Women's Temperance Society".
Ridiculous.

>>726397173
That has more to do with the fact that the churches always try to cover up abuse because they're more concerned about the church looking bad than the church being bad.

>>726397291

No that wasnt me. I was the one who replyed to that post "im all for it"

>>726392635

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>>726395582
Other than pushing the baby back in, they used to do those in the US. They're partial abortions, and they deliver the baby feet first, head stays in, then they suck it's brains out until the head deflates like a Tom Brady football, then they finish delivery.

>>726392291
Some of us have better shit to do on Sundays than piss away the whole morning and 10% of our income at church.

>>726396392
>can't live outside of a host
that's a parasite. not human

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>>726393399
its an objective fact retard lmao

smart people leave and get good paying jobs

>>726397634

Just fyi, the temperance movement still exists, but it isnt politically advantageous to talk about it anymore.

>>726397523
Read boston globes spotlight investigation into clergy sex abuse

>>726397885
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+satire

>>726397885
But buying alcohol would result in the same thing. Pissing away your day and spending 10% of your income.

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>>726397567
I have never seen one of them. Our woman leader can drink more beer than bud light american fagoots thats why we honor her

>>726397901

Take a look at that picture. Doesnt look human at all amiriteguyz?

>>726398205
You must be poor as fuck if a little booze amounts to 10% of your income.

>>726391291
>>726391346

I take it neither of you have ever had a mimosa with breakfast on a Sunday... Or been to Las Vegas for that matter.

I might go pick up a bottle of 20/20 Orange Jubilee at 9am this Sunday just because I can.

>>726389360
Georgia, not Jahwja.

evil patriarchal white supremacist detected.

>>726397901
It is incorrect to say it isn't human because according to genes it is human. You should say it's not a person because that statement is true. A fetus is not a person.

>>726394901
>>726394540
I was just about to call him out on that lol


Corn is harvested by machines as an example strawberrys is harvested by hand. America would be much better off if there was less corn eating and more strawberry eating

>>726398121

So a church trying to cover up a crime, suddenly becomes a nation wide policy of not prosecuting crimes because of their religion... yea, thats very false

>>726398000
Yep.
The sad truth, though, is that if it were politically beneficial half of Congress would be all in favor.

>>726396035
wait, you are allowed to gather the rain or something?! It's illegal to gather rainwater in arkansas I think.

>>726394923
Same thing goes for the jizz encrusted around your 2 inch micro dong then

>>726392015

Except the Bible says that one can drink when coming into the presence of God. Only filthy Moose-lims believe otherwise.

In fact, the bible is littered with passages about how great wine is.

>>726392291
not sure if bait or needs to be gased

9/11

>>726398269

And you must live no where near the south if you are Catholic and belong to a church that still demands penance

>>726389657
>too stupid to know what's good for them.
what are the health benefits of easy access to alcohol

>>726398269
You must be weak as fuck if you can buy enough to get drunk without spending 10% of your weekly.

>>726398560
Also in that time, wine had a much higher amount of alcohol than wine today.

>>726389360
Your grammar sure is special....

>>726398671
No I just went to college and got a good, high paying job. Something you know nothing about.

>>726398591
if serious, should be gassed for being religious fanatic.
if bait, should be gassed for posting lameass bait.

>>726398737
Because it was meant to be diluted. Either that or might as well be, it was the only thing people could drink without getting colera or a parasite

>>726389360

I'm in Louisiana. We have drive-through daiquiri shops here. I shit you not.

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Goddamn, I hate smug religious fags so much.

>>726398469

Well fuck, I guess this machine was just imagined then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIWdE2iLyJY

99.9% of US agriculture is mechanized and has been for longer than your parents have been alive. The difference is in Iowa Billy Bob is driving the machine. In California Hose B is driving

>>726398868
I was not talking about myself. i was talking about the typical boozer who blows most if not all of their money on booze. I have been an electronic tech for 20 years and make 25 an hour, I however do not drink.

>>726398737
True, there was also something called "strong drink" in the bible which had an even higher alcohol content.

>>726398502
Same in Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, and Michigan

>>726399100
Here in Texas we have drive through beer stores. Drive in, tell the clerk what you want, they pull it, you pay they give it to you and you drive off.

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>>726389360

i got you doughboiii

>>726399109
So if 99.9% of agriculture is mechanized, what difference does it make if immigrant workers are working rather than typical rural trash? Sounds to me like farmers are just making an economic decision to limit costs. Maybe rural people should try working for pennies like immigrants to be competitive.

>>726398671

A case of Jim Beam is $85.94. If you cant get drunk on 6 bottles of whiskey you need help. If 85 dollars is 10% of your income, you arent much better than a nigger no matter what your skin color

>>726399109
That machine only works for strawberries grown in that special field. It will not work in a regular open field.

Land of the Free my ass.

>>726399201
HOORAY! NO FREE WATER FOR ANYONE! Fuck me.

Probably wouldn't want to drink it anyway, its full of acid from pollution and junk

>>726398473
>Investigative journalism which led to positive change is false because it makes my religion look bad

Even my Christian friends would find you pathetic

>>726399499
wut??
not necessarily disputing your assertion.
just..., wut???

>>726399414

Or maybe you get rid of the fucking immigrants? Are you honestly advocating for people to be paid like shit, just so you can rationalize no skill labor immigrants? Thats a special kind of stupid right there

>>726399531
Acid rain is generally a thing of the past. President H.W. Bush and the Republican controlled Congress passed laws limiting emissions that caused acid rain.

>>726399715
Watch the video, the berries are grown in long tall boxes so the fruit hangs over the edge where the machine can just slid up and hit them; in the open field the berries hang freely and randomly. The machine would miss most of them.


Fucking store fronts.

>>726399499

It works based on row width. If you have a special snowflake field and way of planting, you order your machine based on that.

You plant based on your machine. That would be similar to an Iowa corn grower saying Combines are useless because their rows are only 12 feet wide when most large harvesters are 35 and 42 feet wide

>>726399455

>> this

personally i preffer spend more money on drugs, cocaine and weed mostly, i dont like acid and shit like that... once tried cubensis and that shit was awesome

>btw i dont have a problem with alcohol, just that i cant afford being with a hangover more than once a weed

>>726399756
Getting rid of immigrants is a gargantuan (that means enormous) task that is futile because as long as this is a better place to live and work then wherever they're from we will always have illegal immigrants looking for work. Farmers who hire them are simply making an economic decision to limit costs and I can't blame them.

>>726399604

You have no point. You claimed systemic cart blanche, and have shown nothing but a group protecting their own. Even my elementary school friends would find you pathetic

>>726400060

i mean week hahahahaha

>>726399956
Those communist, job-killing bastards.
How dare they pass an environmental regulation!!
Fucking tree-hugging hippies shoving their fake science down our throats.

>>726399956
Well that's good! and who says environmental regulations don't solve anything? Acid rain is shit and terrible for everyone and everything

>>726400223
>hahahahaha

>>726400003
>Fucking store fronts.
The fucking SLOW MOTION mountains that won't go away are driving me nuts these days.
Seriously..., fuck Google.

>>726400146

What you are suggesting is illegal. Of course doing shady shit is more profitable than doing it properly. Its why we have pot dealers in legal pot states and illicit cigarettes on the market. The farmers who hire them are just as much criminals as the immigrants themselves.

Fuck it, pump and dump penny stocks are profitable as fuck. Who cares if its wrong, immoral, or illegal, its extremely profitable

>>726400342
You may be shocked to learn that President Reagan signed a bill into law requiring automobiles to begin using unleaded fuel because the lead in the previous fuel was, in scientific terms terrible as fuck for health. You may be even more shocked to learn that the automobile industries had to hire more people to build and install catalytic converters in cars for emissions standards, which was another part of the same law signed by Reagan.

>>726393399
>if we made efforts to help them too
Who do you think gave them all that sweet, sweet Medicaid? The Tooth Fairy? Rednecks are ingrates by default and should be treated as such.

>>726400609
>than doing it properly.
I don't see how the work gets done less properly if it's done by migrant workers. I see how it's done less expensively.

>>726399100
985

>>726400709
Actually, I'm old enough to remember.
(Yes..., I'm really that old.)
I was, franky, making a lame attempt at sarcasm/irony, fwiw.

>>726389360
Thats a good thing its easy to exploit and not illegal to have on you. Just stockpile on the top 5 brands and upsell it after those hours and pet the cash come in. Stop complaining and start making solutions

>>726401042
I used to work with this average Cletus type who used to do that. He said it was a great way to make easy money.

>>726400551
>SLOW MOTION mountains
no shit, bro.
wtf are they thinking????

>>726400865

And unless those migrant workers have EIN's, and are in the country legally, its not done properly

>>726393296
I'm pretty sure that the inventor of the transistor and related solid-state electronics, Dr. Shockley, lived in London, Manhattan, Palo Alto and Stanford. Not exactly rural.

>>726401724
Odd, when I'm in the supermarket I can't tell which apple was picked by some hillbilly or an immigrant worker. Almost as if it has no result on the end product if the work was done by an illegal or not.

>>726400009
I mean you seem semi knowledable. Are you honestly arguing right now that strawberrys are picked my machines in a wide manner right now in america?

>>726401917
The cheap ones in the 5 pound bag are done by illegals. The singles that shine like the moon are done by hillbillies.

Fuck the store fronts.

>>726401917

That would be because the illegals, and the people who employ them havent been fucked in the ass by the legal system.

In short, your entire position is "the end justifies the means"?

>>726389360
I live in Georgia also it's called blue laws the shit has been around forever. I live on the South Carolina border and Carolina has it worse they can't buy anything but essentials before noon. The Walmart won't even sell you normal shit before noon. Georgia just started letting you buy alcohol on Sundays, before that we had to go to the boot legger to get liquor if we were having a party or something on Sunday.

>>726402103
It's more important that produce be inexpensive than it is that a small number of hillbillies have jobs.

>>726402258
>the people who employ them havent been fucked in the ass by the legal system.
And never will be.

Banning alchol sales in the morning is a good thing.

German here. Even refugee trash can buy alcohol here and getting wasted. What is wrong with you guys? Take your guns and demand more alcohol!

>>726402089

Yes they are. Any farm that isn't a tiny family owned outfit with under 35 acres most certainly has their harvesting done by machines. In fact, Id go even further and say that the only thing keeping non mechanized farms afloat is illegal immigration.

Giant shock, some tiny cotton farms are still harvested by hand as well. The rest of civilization mechanized the harvesting of cotton 100+ years ago

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>>726402103
lmao i saw these at the grocery store i went for more then the 5 pound bag of apples

I thought maybe they were some sort of GMO special apple but no it seems not. just a fancy plastic tube and 5x the price

>>726402258
>In short, your entire position is "the end justifies the means"?
No my position is that the needs of the many vs the needs of the few. Everybody in America who buys produce vs small minority of people who would have seasonal work on farms.

>>726402367

Keep watching. You might be surprised

>>726402630
>Take your guns and demand more alcohol!
You're not allowed to pick up your gun on Sunday.
The American Christians said so.

>>726402700

In that case we should import all our agriculture as even corn and wheat require government subsidies.

Lets salt the entire middle of the country. They cant possibly compete with actual slave labor in places like India, even when taking account for freight cost

>>726402679
STRAWBERRY FARMS?

The entire premise here is that some corn state is better then cali because corn state kicks out the illegals becaue the corn is harvested by machine. Strawberrys are not harvested by a machine because of the type of plant whereas corn is hardy and easily harvested by machine.

You can make a machine for everything that doesnt mean its cost effective or in wide use. Corn is, strawberry isnt. If corn had to be harvested by hand there would be lots more illegals in corn state

>>726401037

same here

also old enough to remember the night they broadcast that Elvis had died on TV.

>>726403164
No one kicks illegals out. The illegals dont come to Iowa because they arent needed/wanted.

http://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1957/4367/SR%20no.%20305_ocr.pdf?sequence=1

Here is a lovely little study from 1970 about how much mechanization increases yield in strawberry harvesting

>>726403371
Still bet I'm older than you.
You probably weren't an adult when they announced that Elvis died.
I was...., sadly.

12 fucking storefronts to post this.
Seriously????

>>726403804
>>726403371

Stop the dick measuring contest and post pics of drivers license

>>726403100
This is a strawman but I'll respond anyway. Even with low wages, produce in the U.S. has to be to a certain standard to be fit for human consumption. While they do have slave labor in India they couldn't possibly produce as much food as we need to the certain standard that we need it. I don't consider Indians worth mentioning when discussing the human race and I would not consider their food to be fit for human consumption. I further believe that the U.S. should strive to be the #1 producer of food in the world and have everybody depend on us for their food. That way we can effectively for their government to bend to our will under threat of stopping food exports to that nation. Henry Kissinger had a similar plan which correctly recognized population growth in developing countries as counterproductive to U.S. interests and out global dominance. His plan was to use our food exports to force theses countries to allow cheap and easy access to birth control and abortions. If they refused to comply the idea was to starve them into submission.

>>726389360
what county? forsyth fag here

>>726400959

225

Tifton Georgia huh very interesting

Athens Georgia here.

>>726403804

Yeah, I was a kid back then. Still, nice to see an oldfag on here, even if he's an ancient OG Bobby Johnson oldfag.

>>726404571
you go to uga?

>>726404065
Well..., I'm not dumb enough to do that.
But a lot of folks who have been here since 2006 know me
on /b/ and on /mu/ as 'disneybro', and they know I'm 64yo..

>>726404131

And my entire point is that people are already competing on the world level while complying with laws. Your factory farm ideals of what is the US version of slave labor do nothing but line pockets of niche farm owners. This is Monsanto lobbying in favor of a family that ownes 293,000 aches of land who say "they are going broke" compared to the large family farm of 100 aches saying "we are doing fine"

Except the factory farm is 90% mexicans and the family farm is 100% white locals.

>>726404632
>ancient OG Bobby Johnson oldfag
That genuinely made me lol.

>>726405287
Factory farming is an inevitability. Family farms will have to automate or probably end up going out of business. Unless you want to start legislating against automation there is no way to save the old timey family farm.

>>726394106
>I don't know how to prepare for 12-1/2 hours per week without access to liquor.
And these people say it's the ruralfags who are dumbfucks and idiots...

>>726405765

Got ya. So you not only want to use illegal immigrants to destroy the very core of the country, but you want to use machines to speed up the process.

Fucking gold right here

>>726406115
I'll say again. Unless you want to start legislating against automation I don't think there's much hope for the survival of family farms. Your mistake is looking at the issue with sentiment in mind. It's simply an inevitability unless you ban automation by law.

>>726406115
Also, people working in agriculture make up less than 1% of the total employed workforce. Hardly the very core of the country.

>>726389360
What county do you live in (ga fag too) my county's laws got changed a few years ago try sending an email to someone or some shit and get it changed too

>>726391346
I do

You people realize that you calling rural people "trash" is what got your retarded tangerine of a president elected right?

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just buy 2 bottles on saturday then you can stay drunk the whole weekend.
jesus fucking christ alcoholics are beyond retarded.

>>726394729
Damn, that's prime

>>726407045
>call someone trash
>they prove themselves to be trash

>>726407045
you may be right but it's hard not to when they keep acting like trash.

>>726403789
They arent needed because corn actually is mechanized whereas strawberries are not. You have linked a "study" where they investigated a strawberry picking machine. You know they have similar studies of 3d printing housing? And a fancy video that recently came out

Doesnt mean it actually happens irl. Been to strawberry farm. They are hand picked because strawberrys are not as easily mechanized as corn.

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They had that Sunday bullshit in Nashville for years, then we got an NFL team and shazzam! In NO time we had alcohol Sunday mornings, because everyone knows you cannot go to a noon kickoff sober. Not even a whimper from muh bible thumpers.

>>726407485
>strawberrys are not as easily mechanized as corn
This is true.
Same with a lot of other fruit.
It get all bruised and fucked up too easily.

OP here.....step away because of wild thunderstorms and shit and WTF HAVE Y'ALL DONE TO MY THREAD

>>726407290
No. Raised differently. You think they're stupid or something due to what you see in the media. That's the worst of the worst lol. Most people are fairly fucking intelligent in the south and in rural areas, at least no more stupid than the majority of people.

>>726398631
Do you even know how much liquor stores make?
a fuck load

If you can't have a 6 pack in your refrigerator sat night, you're irresponsible and fucking lazy.

Quit your crying.

>>726389360
You probably shouldn't be drinking before 12:30 in the first place. It's a dumb law, but who cares? Where I live there is no control over when bars/liquor stores open/close yet 2 cities up they have to close at a certain time. It varies from city to city as well.

>>726407850
Everyone on /b/ has Attention Deficit Disorder, bro.

>>726407858
Buddy I'm from the South and was born and raised in a rural area. They are WAY more stupid than the majority of people. I left my hometown after high school and have never once looked back. I know from personal experience that most of them are human trash.

>>726407858
This is absolutely falso lol. There are smat and dumb people everywhere, but the south is wildely known to be dumber.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/06/11/whats-your-states-average-iq-new-map-purports-to-have-the-answer/

Here is a BLAZE article with IQs by state. If you removed the large cities from the south you can be assured the #'s are vastly lower.. Why would a smart person stay in an economically dead area?

>>726389360
I'm in Henry County. We have liquor stores that are open on Sunday.

so you guys don't have liquor cabinets? may seem like an inconvenient law but just stock up on what you like to drink for later days, same as groceries.

>>726408493
yeah lots of county by county liqour laws. When I lived in KY i was staying in a city that was dry and allowed no bars / alcohol sales at all up until it voted to change them in ~~2015

>>726389360
Where I live you can buy anything anywhere at any time

>>726408493
Liquor stores are open on Sundays, but they can't open until 12:30. I think that's stupid. "hurrr well if they're gonna buy liquor on God's day, then they have to wait until after church is over!"

Fucking hell.

Alcoholic ColumbusGAfag here.

There are no arguments unfortunately. No one seems to question it, especially here because we have the garbage pit that is Phenix City AL right across the river without alcohol sale restrictions. We only recently were allowed the whole sales-after-12:30 amendment you mentioned OP.

And as to why no arguments are really heard, well, it's just how folks down here like it it seems.

>>726408693
I think the point is more so its a ridiculous and outdated law that would seem to be religiously based and indefensible rationally

And OP is rightly shocked that such laws still exist in 2017

>>726389360
I voted against any kind of store selling liquor where I live op.

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>>726389360
OP is an alcohol.

>>726389360
Boo-fucking-hoo
Just wait until after 12:30 to get some booze you drunken fuck.
If you really liked booze you wouldn't even be up that early after getting smashed partying Saturday night.

>>726409277
This is the stupidest counter argument. It's almost like saying "I never had a sip of whiskey in my entire life and I turned out just fine." Burn in a dildo-store fire, faggot.

>>726409022
That's totally awesome dude.
I voted to make masturbation and pre-marital sex illegal in my state.
Jesus loves you.

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>>726407485
i realize this is pointless autistic arguing lol but if you google strawberry harvesting the only mechanized examples you gettting is shit like this

>>726409716
Jesus also loves you anon.

>>726409871
wtf

>>726389360
>can't purchase alcohol from a grocery store/liquor store until after 12:30pm

Plan ahead.

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>>726410071
>>726407485
>>726403789
straw berry picking machine lol

>>726409716
its illegal to make human behavior such as that illegal you fucking tyrannical dipshit

>>726410766
Anon....
It is bad enough that this >>726409022 fanatic actually took me seriously.
Are you really saying that you didn't get that I was being over-the-top sarcastic/ironic????
Get a grip.

>>726410766
>>726411407
You say over the top sarcasm but gay sex was illegal in a large number of states until the 90s

As of April 2014, 17 states either have not yet formally repealed their laws against sexual activity among consenting adults, or have not revised them to accurately reflect their true scope in the aftermath of Lawrence v. Texas. Often, the sodomy law was drafted to also encompass other forms of sexual conduct such as bestiality, and no attempt has subsequently succeeded in separating them. Thirteen states' statutes purport to ban all forms of sodomy, some including oral intercourse, regardless of the participants' genders: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Utah. Three states specifically target their statutes at same-sex relations only: Kansas,[16][17] Kentucky, and Texas.

And today you can likely still be charged for sucking a dick in many states. The supreme court only struck down the laws that were targeting gays only

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>>726389360

I know what you mean OP.

I was stationed at Fort Gordon, GA back in 2010 for about a year and I ran into that fucking problem every week.

What I would do is either buy enough alcohol for the weekend, or since I was in the military, DRIVE ON POST AND GET IT!

Yes! You can get beer or liquor on post even on Sunday in GA.

>>726404319
>>>726400959
>225
504

Fuck you moralfags i hope an elderly person runs down your whole goddamn family in their SUV

>>726389360
>Where I live (Georgia, USA), you can't purchase alcohol from a grocery store/liquor store until after 12:30pm on Sundays.
>In my county, there is a law that makes it impossible for a liquor store to ever open.
>after 12:30 it's open
>it's never open

seriously, you need to skip the abc store and eat a bullet for breakfast.

>>726411948
No shit, Mr. History.
I'm the 64yo. oldfag ITT...., I've lived through all that crap.
My wife and I "cohabitated" illegally under Virginia Law for years before we were married and
half of what we've done in the bedroom is still technically illegal in this State.

That doesn't change the fact NO State has held a popular vot on masturbation or pre-marital sex in a very long time..., if ever.
No rational person would take that seriously.
Use your head, man.

>>726413265
suppose so

how did you end up here? did you come for /pol? just wondering

>>726413265
>64
>on /b/
I hope this isn't what my future beholds

>>726414064
There are a lot of older people on /b/ now! I mean /b/ has changed a lot since I started coming to it. And I guess a lot of us were younger when we started coming...but im still surprised at the quanity of people on here talking about their wives and kids and families lol

the south is like a white version of the middle east

>>726413650
As I said here >>726405038 , I have been around for quite a while.
Definitely NOT from /pol/..., that board makes me feel the immediate need to take a shower.
That's saying something, considering I have spent all these years on /b/.
A lot of the aspiring musicfags here and on /mu/ know me because I give out career advice on becoming a professional musician.
(I'm a composer/arranger for Film/TV Theatre music scores and shit tier kid-pop songs for Disney Channel/Hollywood Records.)

>>726389360
Who tf would need to buy alcohol on a sunday before 12:30 pm. Just stock up on alcohol beforehand, faggot.

>>726414064
>>726414289
The ancient oldfag here.

/b/...,
You can check out any time you like..., but you can never leave.

You're doomed..., lel.

>>726396579
have fun dying of radiation.