So despite the testimony of the FBI director and the NSA director

>>726250010
>hurr durr intelligence organizations are just gonna openly admit to illegal activity
>hurr durr

Sorry shill but comeys a corrupt piece of shit. He denied there was any wrong doing in the Clinton foundation when the whole world knows its secret.

>>726250284
^^^I found the Russian!

>>726250284
bet you didn't say that when she was placed under investigation twice from him though eh

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>>726250284
pretty much as soon as the person jumps in complaining about "shills" that is 100% the shill. every.fucking.time.

>>726250284
>He denied there was any wrong doing in the Clinton foundation
Even though it's been pretty much verified that the last repeat investigation intop Hillary's emails just before the election fucked it up for her, he's just a Clinton Shill?

You're a fucking idiot

>>726250010
It isn't even that. It is that not one single semi credible person thinks it happened in the first place. I mean not even FOX will back that shit.

That Trump supporters will still back him over this is a great indicator of how dug in everyone is.

On a positive note, after 4 years under trump, a lot of them will have died off. I love the new work requirement for medicaid. Have fun steel/coal workers lol.

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>>726250284

>Sorry shill but comeys a corrupt piece of shit.

You do remember that Clinton had it in the back till Comey decided to open a new investigation into her e-mails 10 days before the election. He's the one that made Trump president. How about not forgetting that?

>>726250010
Nah. He just says dumb bullshit Pops into his head, and all his surrogates and spin doctors are then forced to justify it, regardless of its veracity.

>>726250010
We don't have Shillary, so I don't care what he does.

>>726250796
>>726250796
this. and remember he can't ever apologize. He can't ever be wrong - it is part of his philiophy. Don't ever expect him to back down.

>>726250887
so sad to see a little red-pill. Terrified of women in power. They'd rather have Trump fuck them up the ass for 4 years than have a female president crush their little egos.

sad.

>>726250010
The entire media and the entire democratic party have been making claims for 3 months that trump collided with Russia without the slightest shred or evidence to back it up.

Trump makes a claim and the same media and Democrats call him crazy for making claims without evidence, all while continuing to peddle their evidenceless conspiracy theory 24/7.

And that, my friends, is liberalism in a nutshell: double standards made manifest.

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>>726250730
The Clinton criminal network was and is a very powerful organization.

The question isn't who were the Russians supporting. The real question was who were the Chinese supporting?

Follow the bread crumbs.

>>726250796

>He just says dumb bullshit Pops into his head

But he is the president of the United States.

>>726250010
>trump's mental state
He's crazy as a shithouse rat.
>dementia
Yeah, probably. If I remember right, his dad died of Alzheimer's. Presidents should be required to pass a neurological fitness test.

>>726251275
>The entire media and the entire democratic party have been making claims for 3 months

No. We've been claiming it since the July RNC when Trump changed the GOP platform to remove military aid to Ukraine. That is when the pieces fell into place.

>Manafort
>Flynn
>Page
>Stone / Guccifer 2.0

>Wikileaks timing DNC dump to just _after_ Hillary won the primary ( if they had done it a few days before , Bernie might have won )
>RNC hacked, but never dumped

List goes on and on faggot.

>>726251275

>The entire media and the entire democratic party have been making claims for 3 months that trump collided with Russia without the slightest shred or evidence to back it up.

You mean like when Trump asked Russia to hack Clinton in a press conference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNa2B5zHfbQ

Or like when his national security adviser Flynn tried to broker a deal with the Russians, committing treason and lied about it?

>>726251275
Er, no. The Trump/Putin connection has been under investigation for the best part of 2 years, the reason there's so much attention is because there is ever-mounting evidence. The reason the wiretapping claims were met with so much ridicule was 1) they came from the mind of a known paranoid sociopath, and 2) after substantial investigation there is NO evidence that any wiretapping had taken place. And even if it had, Trump broke several federal laws by exposing a lawful surveillance.

It's fucking ridiculous, the world is laughing at you, and you look like a cunt for defending this prick

>>726251927
>>726251927
he's a russian shill, so he's laughing either way. There job is just to jump on all these threads and gas-light some alternate universe.

>>726251790
>being this dense

NSA taps everyone. Not Obama.

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>>726251927

>The reason the wiretapping claims were met with so much ridicule was 1) they came from the mind of a known paranoid sociopath, and 2) after substantial investigation there is NO evidence that any wiretapping had taken place

3) He made those claims at 4 in the fucking morning on his personal twitter account.

>>726252277
ahhhh ya, I bet they're tappin' this shit right now.

>>726252157
ad hominem

>>726251275
lol

>>726251426
That's why it's terrifying. The most powerful man in the world is ranting like the homeless guy that hangs out in the parking lot of the 7-11.

>>726250010
I think there is a definite possibility that he is going nuts

>>726252398

I don't see why not. This takes almost no space. Text is a drop in the bucket when you have 1000 petabytes of storage and counting.

>>726252313
good point.

Also:

McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence.

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>>726252424

>The most powerful man in the world is ranting like the homeless guy that hangs out in the parking lot of the 7-11.

He isn't the only leader that went crazy over too much meth/coke.

>>726252607
Is his book called "I Grippled America" I don't know what it means, but I like it.

>>726252527
mmmmmm I kinda like it....

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>>726250010
Didn't Trump claim that he found out about the wiretapping from a newspaper article? And has in the past called that newspaper "fake news" ?

This retard will never last 4 years

>>726252535
this

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>>726251006
I love women in power. It is that specific woman I didn't want in power.

>We've been investigating Trump for Russia connections for years
>but he totally wasn't under surveillance guys

also anyone who watched the whoel press conference knows that the dems were btfo. they had the head of the fbi with them and all they could do was read month old news articles and ask for his comment, to which he moslty replied "no comment". Literally only evidence they came up with for russia collusion was "we heard from an anonymous source that he worked with putin".

wow, drumpf btfo. nevermind the NSA leaked documents yesterday proving Trump was being monitored for years.

>>726251927
>they came from the mind of a known paranoid sociopath
And you have medical paperwork to back this up or is this an opinion...
>a lawful surveillance
So, he was wiretapped?

>>726252900
>Didn't Trump claim that he found out about the wiretapping from a newspaper article
no. but it was suggested and implied in the newspapers that they were "wiretapping" him months ago. they've suddenly forgotten about that.

>>726252704
"Gripple" is American slang for "con."

>>726252946
She seemed like she would be a good leader. Unless you fundamentally disagreed with her policies I guess.


>>726253159
>>726253159
ok buddy. keep doubling down on those "Obama wiretapped Trump. sad" comments.

>>726253184
they will ignore this, or spin it as "obama didnt wiretap him though!". even though obama would've been fully aware of it, and the people doing it were working for him.

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>>726250010

reminder that hillary clinton did secret business deals with the russian government and accepted millions from them in donations

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

>>726253302
>>Didn't Trump claim that he found out about the wiretapping from a newspaper article


yes. he said he heard it on fox. Fox, then disavowed the statement, saying their news team couldn't confirm it, and pushed it back on Andrew Napolitano.

>>726253302
This article says what I said

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/about-that-new-york-times-wiretapping-article-trump-has-it-all-wrong/2017/03/16/7f57d99e-0a86-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?utm_term=.62f3a9a307d5

>>726253385
I don't need to double down, it's already a fact, and was further proven today by the conference. if you'd watched it you'd know. keep calling me "buddy" though, it's what morons do when they have on argument but want to sound confident.

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>>726253159
>the fbi literally says there's no evidence
>members of his party say there is no evidence
>/pol/ roasties claim there's evidence but its being hidden from the president by the entire government

Hmmm... Who to believe?

>>726253574
remember that this is all bullshit. that Hillary wasn't even responsible for that uranium deal, that 7 departments signed off on it, blah blah blah.

>>726253159
>>726253385
please don't stop. we're getting tapped so hard right now

>>726253630
at a certain point your lies and spin just old and ridiculous. you don't believe it. we don't believe it.

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>>726253574

O BOY! HERE COMES /POL/ WITH THEIR FAKE AS SHIT INFOGRAPHS

seriously, how is this even fun for you guys anymore?

>>726253618
>a washpo opinion piece
is this a joke? did you even read the entire "article"? read the entire thing, it doesn't prove anything. they always include all these big claims at the beginning, knowing idiots won't read past the first 2 paragraphs, then when they try to substantiate it, it crumbles.

>>726250549
lol nice logic you must be a fucking shill especially since you made this shitty thread

>>726253923
You think you can alienate them by creating a stereotype and that's just not how it works

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>>726253923

>outright denying reality when it conflicts with your preconceived biased narrative

lol

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/02/18/no-one-mentions-that-the-russian-trail-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#6df8e3433991

>>726250010
Well, trump must have some evidence to the contrary right? He wouldn't just make a claim like that without evidence right?

>>726254045
fuck, this is so cute. what does it say? curious af rn

Libcuck here (let's just get that out of the way).

From what I'm seeing, a lot of you out there who support trump are slicing this info in a way that doesn't make trump look bad or guilty. As the days go on we (dems) are finding more and more to point to and say "there, see? He shouldn't be president because_____"

My question is, what would it take for you who truly support and like the guy to turn on him?

What if there was proof he and the Russians took action to fix the election in some way? Would that do it?

What if some policy directly makes your life worse? (Maybe you lose health insurance)

What would honestly do it? Because (again, imo) it seems like him and his supporters jump from one excuse to another, never taking responsibility. The closest he gets is "well, (insert some political figure) did that too!"

Trying to find a middle ground or understand where you're all coming from.

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This thread again.

this is a complete joke. Trump is either going through dementia or is a severe sociopath. I can't believe some small minded idiots out there are still defending all his blatant Bullshit. THIS is the true scary part: that some people in this country are so biased to the point where they defend what is clearly wrong

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>>726254020
>>726254031

more infographs and a pitiful attempt at the "higher road" argument fallacy!? o boy! this is too perfect! but, you forgot to call me "cuck" and/or "kiddo" to give it that classic /pol/ feel!

>>726253184
>So, he was wiretapped?
No, you pleb. He wasn't, but if he WAS, him tweeting about it is a federal offence

>>726254031
Can you please tell me what role Manafort had in the trump campaign, and what his previous relationship with Russia was?

How about the election of Yanukovych ?

>>726254383
shut up

WHY IS EVERYBODY POSTING CHIP N DALE PICS? WTF IS THE POINT OF THIS SHIT? IT'S SUPER CUTE BUT IM TRYING TO HAVE A REAL POLITICAL DISCUSSION FUCK

>>726254171
He's holding it back to give them a fighting chance.

>>726254272
>I can't believe some small minded idiots out there are still defending all his blatant Bullshit.
Because:
>either going through dementia or is a severe sociopath
You already had the answer.

>>726250760
but i thought it was because of putin?? will you cucks get your story straight already

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>>726250284
didnt the guy handed trump the presidency when he publicly stated they where investigating shillary again a few days before the elections?

>>726254203

its not about proof, dude. it never was. these people, his core constituency, they don't care about facts and reality in the same way you do. they have guy feelings steeped in ignorance of the wider world and their own bigotry, so they WANT to believe in a man like Trump even if it is just one big lie. They are more willing to believe that the entire government is privy to a vast conspiracy against Trump than they are willing to believe Trump lied to get into power for personal gain.

>>726254203
>Trying to find a middle ground or understand where you're all coming from.

don't bother. conservatives regularly vote against their own interests, especially working class. They have a deep bench of excuses to avoid facing reality.

For example:

>Tired of paying for lazy blacks to be on welfare! Cut those programs!

>I need SNAP because of NAFTA! Fucking globalists!

They see no contradiction there.

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>>726254203

>My question is, what would it take for you who truly support and like the guy to turn on him?

He promised him a way out of their misery economical misery. He promised them to get rid of the foreigners that are a threat to their old ways. They want to believe.

Germany had to be reduced to rubble by the insane politics of their leader before his followers broke their bond with him. Trump has to wreck these people before the wake-up.

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>>726254383

>picture of several twitter post highlighting her lies

>"infograph"

why are you so stupid?

>>726254435

yeah, he was a corrupt russian oligarg with ties to the mafia. How does that absolve hillary of all her shady shit exactly? Especially when she not only got millions in donations from the same fucking people, but also from scumbags in Saudi Arabia and Wall street.

>>726250796
It really must be hell working under him, pretty much facing the fact that for 4 years you are going to try to put out fires he started in twitter.

>>726250180
Wow, you actually believe it

>>726254765
>Trump has to wreck these people before the wake-up.

yeah, saving my industry and me atually being able to get a job and CHOOSE from them is really "wrecking" me lol.

go fuck off and die of irrelevancy you know nothing 20 year old college cunt

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>>726253954
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>>726254830

Here we have the Trump-shill again, that bumps threads critical of Trump to the image limit with themed images.

>2.05 US$ transferred to your paypal

>>726254765

they still wont wake up. you really don't understand how far these people are willing to do to protect their own egos. even if he burns everything to the ground and turns the USA into a 3rd world country, and takes responsibility for doing it, his constituency will believe that a secrete organization of Democrats are actually responsible for all of his bad policies.

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>>726250010
What you think? If I'm the FBI and I was wiretap someone you think I'm going to tell you?

>>726250398
found the faggot

>>726254986
>yeah, saving my industry and me atually being able to get a job and CHOOSE from them is really "wrecking" me lol.

what industry is that? Are you on SNAP or other government support right now?

>>726254986
...How has he saved your industry, pretty much every car-related job he's taken credit for were already coming before he got elected

Of course that doesn't change the fact that you're in a dying fucking industry.

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>>726255027

lol you lost and theres nothing you can do about it

>>726254986

you have to be a shill. he hasn't even been president for a full fiscal quarter yet and the USA is set to lose so many fucking jobs come 2018. seriously man, get your info somewhere other than /pol/ infographs.

>>726250180
>being this retarded

>>726255027
where's your evidence of this? that's nuts if true

>>726255032
You type and sound like you are in high school. Just stop.

>>726254422
How? The President is allowed to disclose information as he pleases. "It's not illegal when the president does it." - sound familiar?

>>726250010
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>>726250010
All we know is Trump has intel beyond the White House and FBI.

>>726255140

Im a process operator. Why do you think ALL those long term democrat unions suddenly voted for Trump?

>>726255189
>...How has he saved your industry

opening up the gulf of mexico.

>pretty much every car-related job he's taken credit for were already coming before he got elected

thats a lie though

>Of course that doesn't change the fact that you're in a dying fucking industry.

says the economically illiterate college kid who believes in a dying neo-liberal ideology.

>>726255129
yay! You found me :D wanna touch tips?

>>726250010

He read it on Breitbart and saw it on Infowars, fuck the FBI, the CIA and the NSA, Trump knows where to get real info...


yeah, I don't know about you guys in US, but the rest of the world keeps laughing about your retarded president

>>726250010
Obama to Trump: "See you in court."

>>726254679
What you posted is how I get when I'm all rage-y and triggered so I'm right there with you. What I'm trying to do is bring more people to the middle or understand the outliers. Sometime between now and 2020 (or later depending), trump will no longer be president but we'll all still be us. He as a problem can go away but what he's done is show us how differently we all feel about issues. When we try to explain facts or our reasoning we want them to listen and learn, I'm just trying to offer the same curtesy.

>>726254762
True but they have a reason for thinking otherwise and a breaking point just like you and me. Nobody purposely makes their life harder for no reason. In a trump supporters eyes, he is the key to relieving stresses put on their life for various reasons.

>>726254765
Agreed, I'd really prefer to skip to the rebuilding without all the rubble. My house already isn't amazing. I doubt bullet shells and rubble would make it much better.

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>>726250010
So Trump who is basically just an ordinary businessman is supposed to be capable of proving extremely advanced CIA wiretaps which are completely meant to be hidden? If an idiot like Trump can prove they're there, then why even have such shitty devices in the first place? Trump made his claim so that people who COULD have a chance of proving his claim would take a look at it and do something about it.

>>726254171
lol, that's a good one

>>726250010
Obama should sue this lying piece of shit for libel, that would be fuckin hilarious

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>>726251419
>The Clinton criminal network

>>726255221

Hes opening up the gulf of mexico

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/07/trump-opens-all-available-gulf-of-mexico-waters-to-oil-drilling/

Stop pretending you know dick about the world outside your liberal arts degree bitch. Have fun working at starbucks until your 40

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>>726250887
>I don't care what he does

>>726255189
Liberal shill cows don't budge, don't bother.

>>726255718
>claiming bullshit as a fact
>providing no evidence for such insulting claims
>retards still defend this

americunts sure are the biggest retards country in the western world

>>726254632
Comey launched the investigation. Putin supposedly got the emails leaked.

>>726255318
Does "Watergate" sound familiar?

>>726255643
Curse you and all of your accursed "reason".
There is no room here for rational thought.

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>>726253630
>it's already a fact, and was further proven today by the conference

>>726254484
Be glad for that and not the scat pictures that are being posted in similar threads.

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>>726255862

>Deepwater Horizon 2.0

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You're fucking foolish if you think Obama didn't wiretap Trumps places of business and home.
Are you fuckers so fucking dumb to think that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are going to outright say they're doing something illegal?

How fucking dumb can you Liberals get? Obamas been wire tapping Trump since he first decided to run for President.

I can't wait for Trump to arrest Obama on top of that fucking woman Hilary. You fucking Democrats are disgusting, corrupt, fuck ups

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>>726250010
James Clapper testified before Congress, and when asked if the NSA was collecting any information on millions of Americans; he said "No."

Then of course we find out that the real answer was really "HOLY LIVING FUCK, YES. THAT IS COMPLETELY CORRECT MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES OVER."

So no, I don't believe shit these assholes say. Trump almost certainly did just pull this accusation out of his ass with no evidence; but the fucked up thing is he's probably STILL RIGHT.

>trump has connections to putin, we monitored him and found out
>lol drumpf wasn't "wire-tapped"
this is why so many people are abandoning the left. you fuckers are so pathetic.

>>726256169
>le brainwashed retard, the post

>>726255897
>9gag meme #45
nice

>>726254203
There is no middle ground for the Trumptards. They'll keep taking his hot loads to the face and thank him for it. Liberal/Conservative bullshit aside, no one who is truly objective can continue to support all the stupid shit he's already done in his first couple of months as president, much less the fact that Putin handed him the election (which has been conclusively determined by the CIA, the FBI, and every other intelligence agency we have)

>>726254785
sorry I misunderstood our conversation. I was speaking to the relationship between Manafort and the Russian government. That he was basically used as a "kingmaker" for Yanukovych - and fulfilled the exact same role for Trump.

The donations to CGI were problematic, I'll give you that. It was further complicated by how CGI handles its funds ( it handles much of the work itself, rather than redistributing the money ). I'm not sure if it was a quid-pro-quo bribe, but it definitely was shifty and inappropriate.

With that said, if you were really concerned about Hillary's corruption, I don't understand how you could ignore the following issues:

1) Hillary stood up against wall street, and was working to keep the regulations on them in place. Trump has stated from the beginning he is pro-wall street, and would deregulate them. If you are anti-wall street, how in any way is trump a better option? Additionally Trump owes big banks over 600M dollars. Compare this to what ... 20 M in speaking fees by all of wallstreet to clinton? You voted for a guy who literally owes 600M to a foreign bank, and don't see any sort of corruption or conflict with that.

2) Saudi Arabia. Working with The Kingdom is what America does. Trump is gonna do it. Clinton would have done it. Trump in fact has tons of dealings with the Kingdom, and has arguably been bailed out by the Prince 2 times when he needed money. In additiona, Trump has financial projects in the middle east that are dependent on the good will of those nations.

Why do you see Hillary as being more corrupt? Her charity took a few mil from saudis, but Trump is literally indebted to them AND dependent on their goodwill for profits from his business.

This is what I just don't get. It's like you are drawing an equivalency between getting a speeding ticket, and a murder charge. "well, they are both criminals" or something.

>>726255862

>Interior finalized its current five-year offshore leasing program in January, just before Trump took office.

Seriously, what is with you trumpcucks? you don't even read the articles that you post trying to support your feeble argument.

and for the record, this is /b/. we all make 250k a year with our three graduate degrees.

>>726255718

MI6 has access to the NSA database. The NSA records every digital message, which for years now has been all texts, cell calls and land-line calls. One could hear private conversations without specifically ordering a U.S. based intelligence to tap a line. It's not even remotely far fetched. Nothing, let me say that again, NOTHING is private.

>>726250010
I don't think he's insane, he's just what everyone with a brain figured out a long time before the election: a complete fuckin retard who doesn't care about facts

>>726256169
damn, you're probably super smart i can tell

>>726255997
Who the fuck said anyone believed it as fact? I didn't... I just said that Trump made a claim and wanted someone in a position to either prove or disprove it.

A lot of ""intelligent"" people (most liberals) believe that if a claim isn't proven true then that automatically means it's proven false. If I was alive in 1200 and told everyone the world was spherical but had no way of proving it, is the world instantly flat like everyone says and the reality morphs to always make unproven claims false?

>>726256134
just because you post an overused meme doesn't mean you're right. watch the conference for yourself, faggot

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He wouldn't accuse someone without proper evidence

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>>726250180
Unfortunately, you will likely reproduce.

>>726256448
The greeks proved the world was round so no-one would care what you said, a lot like now actually

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>>726250010
>intelligence agencies
>telling the truth
Like, holy fuck. I mean obviously OP is a troll but people actually think like you. Actual voting humans think that intelligence agencies are beholden to the truth.

>>726256522
>>726256134
haha, ya your meme is overused... BITCH!

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>>726256522
just because you think there's proof, doesn't mean there is, sorry.

otherwise, present said proof.

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how butthurt are hillcucks?

literally all they do is lose and get proven wrong, despite what the msm brainwashes them with

>>726255718
>so that people who COULD have a chance of proving

I am just an ordinary guy who is not capable of proving extremely advanced things..., but...,
I know for a fact that you are responsible for the brutal rape deaths of 100's of infant children.
I on say this so that prople CAN have the opportunity to prove it and do something about it.
You may also prove it wrong if you like.

Your argument was the most retarded thing I've read in a week..., and that's saying something.

>>726252946
If Trump is the alternative, I'd rather have a fucking banana as POTUS.

>>726255643
look I get it, and I have asked the same questions myself.

>True but they have a reason for thinking otherwise and a breaking point just like you and me.

This is where you are wrong. For them to admit they are wrong is functionally impossible. Imagine a liberal admitting that blacks have different genetics that make them better athletes, or that women are actually not discriminated against.

Here is a good example. George Bush in 2002. Conservatives, who claim they want "small government" went fucking apeshit post 9-11. Massive increase in military spending, massive reduction in personal rights and privacy, massive increase in wiretapping, massive increase in budgets and debt.

Where is the small government they pretend to like? Did they vote against him in 2004? no. And if you ask them now? They will come up with some excuse as to why they supported him. Or even disavow him. that is how it will go with Trump. They will support him, and years later will come up with why it wasn't their fault.

>>726255862

>working at starbucks until your 40
>your 40
>your

well, seeing as how I already own my house and land, I guess this is a complement since I can retire by the time I'm 40?

also, its "you're" not "your". In English, the phrase "you are" can be shortened to "you're". "Your" is the possessive form of "you". But don't be too hard on yourself; this mistake is common among people who have never paid for an education.

>>726256448
Also, people, courts, society, everyone that isn't retarded expect claims to be backed up with evidence

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>>726256169
>I can't wait for Trump to arrest Obama on top of that fucking woman Hilary. You fucking Democrats are disgusting, corrupt, fuck ups

Lmfao, I love this shit. You fools have been saying this dumb shit for a year now and nothing's happened. Infact, I think the reason the /pol/ is always right meme is spouted so much is because you fuckers sure are wrong a whole lot.

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>>726256724
fucking hell, yeah my meme is overuseed..

should've gone with this one.

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the more people are pissing their pants out of anger, the funnier it is for me. nothing is more amusing than butthurt progressives arguing with an orange clown over which version of reality is the realest

>>726256448
except you don't fuckin libel a former president if you have no evidence, you fuckin twat.
Libel is a felony, and if you have no evidence, your defamation claims are libel.
And since the retard gets his info from shitholes like breitbar, fox, and infowars, there is never going to be any kind of evidence.

Again, Obama should sue this lying piece of shit

its ok i give it 18 months till red army marsh in usa ! then i go on live leak and watch some nice rape and killing vids <3 xoxo

>>726250010
but did you watch any of the actual testimony? half of the questions are answered by "i don't know" or "no comment" or my favorite "I will not answer that"

yeah seems like the FBI and NSA is really trustworthy to me

>>726256749
topfuckingkek

>>726256994
>retard thinks they can talk about running investigations

>>726256726
the NSA had leaked documents yesterday showing they've been spying on trump for years. also, many sources from intelligence agencies say he's correct.

>>726256959
O whaaaaaaaat?! you're a nasty little one. I'd make gay love to you any day :)

>>726257125
>retards think they can talk on 4chan

>>726256090
Lol sorry. I'm just tired of yelling and raging with 0 results. Then you see all these people of various influence (political leaders to youtubers) who advocate just talking and being accepting. I don't accept the actions or behaviors of trump or his supporters but I might be able to understand them and the reasoning behind them, which is a start. I wish the thread was slower because I honestly would love to have long conversations of equal time with someone from the other side of the fence.

>>726256182
But you entertain the idea that he's not right? He seems to have a habit of restating information he finds or is presented to him without much investigation. Granted he's a busy person but he seems to pull that trigger regardless. Do you really find him that trustworthy? (Not mocking at all, just asking).

>>726256275
It seems like his supporters take his side first, and then determine what to do after. It's not just them though. Falsehood is running rampant like we've never seen before and people don't have the time/interest to verify everything. These people are still people though. Outside all this political bs some of them have the same interests as you or me and all of us want to see this country be #1 and our individual lives become a little better. We just disagree on how it should be done. I'm hoping by asking people why they think what they think we can all move a little more toward the middle, then forward.

>>726256832
So let's say hypothetically, Obama and the government decided to frame you for murder and do almost a perfect job. Obama even talks to you in person and tells you "I'm framing you for this murder. Have fun in jail for the rest of your life."

So to YOU, you have perfect proof it happened, but obviously it will be set up where you will have virtually no chance of proving that. Everyone will think you sound crazy and are defaming Obama. The FBI and police won't even bother looking into your claims at all. I guess you should just say "Well shit everyone believes I killed him and the proof is there so I really killed him. Send me to jail for life guys."

>>726257135
>the NSA had leaked documents yesterday showing they've been spying on trump for years. also, many sources from intelligence agencies say he's correct.
no, they haven't and no, they did not.

>>726257135
>the NSA had leaked documents yesterday showing they've been spying on trump for years. also, many sources from intelligence agencies say he's correct.

citation needed

>>726252313
Must be some good ass coke or weed, he tried to go to sleep then thought America why are all the states in the United States named after women ?
then what if because the blacks ? blacks Oh shit Obama wiretap me gotta go to tweeter fuck sleeping.

>>726256757
Some people voted Harambe. He would be deffinitely a better choice than both of those idiots.

Still waiting for wikileaks to reveal that michelle obama is actually a post-op tranny

>>726257316
Don't ask for proof... never needed with Trumpers. Heard it, must be true. Didn't hear it, but want it to be true.. it's true.

>>726257488
what just because she doesn't conform to your gender stereotypes? closed-minded pos!

>>726256934

>Again, Obama should sue this lying piece of shit

After eight years of being in the political spotlight he probably can't be bothered with that right now.

>>726255643
I've lived around conservatives my entire life. They have this mentality of blaming the poor, but if they themselves are poor, they are "down on their luck." Same thing goes to welfare. They also see themselves as "depressed millionaires" (I think that's the term) where they believe that one day the system will work for them, which is why they want to help the big guys, even if it might hurt them. It's all about them wanting to believe. It's a shame a lot of them don't realize that though.

>>726256831
>a libtard finally gets to apply his useless degree
YOUR mother must. Please give me a analysis on my grammar too. you fucking reddit faggot.

>>726257488
Absolutely proven true.
I know because I saw it on /b/ and reddit.

>>726257634
It is really hard to sue people, the more of a public figure you are.

>>726252946
>I love women in power

something only a castrated feminist nu-male would say

>>726250180
They just wont believe anything from anyone. It has to come from the lips of their God-Emperor before they believe it. I dont think I've seen anything like this outside of an african banana republic

>>726256994

>half of the questions are answered by "i don't know" or "no comment" or my favorite "I will not answer that"

Those questions were about the Russia/Trump connection, dip. On the wire tapping claims he was pretty straightforward.

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>>726251006
I completely understand why people voted for Trump when Clinton was the alternative. While I disagree I don't blame them in any way. Corporate American politics left them no choice

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>>726257766
>something only a castrated feminist nu-male would say

>>726253574
the epitome of fake news. Tin foil hats dont even work with these tards.

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>>726257228
Congrats, I am pretty sure that logic just proved that you are an idiot. "Well, if everyone just happened to have proof you did something... " Using that logic to attempt to say you shouldn't present proof. So in your world, No proof is better than proof. New level of stupidity acheived.

>>726257228
Right, but that's an extremely dumb and specific hypothetical situation, and it doesn't relate to the original point: You don't make up some wild bullshit then ask people to either prove or disprove it via fucking Twitter without providing even one iota of fucking evidence to even HELP your case.
Nobody has to set-up Trump, the fucking moron can't help himself, he cocks everything up the stupid cunt.

>>726253630
no one can take you seriously, you really are a retard.

>>726257692
>I've lived around conservatives my entire life.
cool. so by your logic you're a total moron, and the rest of your reply isn't even worth reading.

>>726251419
Someone said this site was like reddit, but i can't upvote this poast. lol smoeone help me?

>>726257631
i prefer my chicks with black dicks. nothing gets my mancave more moist than big, black feminist cock & muscular hands.

i want michelle obama to fuck my worthless white ass with her bbc, while choking me and explain it's for the good of humanity

>>726258073
>liberal children on /b/ can't take him seriously
>this is somehow bad

>>726257692
pretty much this. It is believe in the "american dream" too...

>>726257830
I guess if you live in an anti-obama / anti-clinton bubble or something. When I look at the worst scenario for Clinton, I'm still seeing a better option than Trump. Even if Clinton

>fucked up benghazi and let those people die
>gave away our uranium to Russia
>took bribes from Saudis
>assassinated that Seth dude

She would still be more competent and less corrupt than Trump.

>>726255495
You push buttons. Your job will be automated in the next few years anyway.

>>726257199
you're a trumpanzee, that makes you a retard, and yes, you should stfu since you have no argument, faggot

>democrats push for evidence of trumps wire tapping claims
>still even less evidence about russia hacking the election
any way you look at it they are the losers.

>>726257830
Agreed..., me too.
But does the Trump loyalty have to rise to the level of a cult with a fever???
That's what drives me nuts.
I am seriously beginning to wonder if this is going to eventually lead to some kind of mass, kool-aid suicide like Jonestown.

>>726256829
>This is where you are wrong. For them to admit they are wrong is functionally impossible. Imagine a liberal admitting that blacks have different genetics that make them better athletes, or that women are actually not discriminated against.

That's a good point but if you add specific context to that more general statement I might change my tune. The problem is both sides "absolutely know the truth" even though the truth could not have a more stark contrast depending on who you ask. Even I try to verify everything I think (on this subject) these days. I really think both sides need to do better when making any claims. They used to expect 3 sources on a 1 page essay in grade school. Now that I'm an adult I feel like I should be able to do better than 3 sources that are generally trusted.

Plus everyone has a breaking point. Taxes going up, medical insurance going away, job loss, something. To every individual, there is a point where they would curse his name over cheering it. >>726257228
This is a very very well made point. The ONLY part it doesn't work for me is we know trump has problems with the truth. We've been shown that in small doses from Twitter. We know he doesn't always tell the truth and I'm more inclined to believe a collection of people who can back up their claim over someone who will at the very least bend the truth to suit them. Basically the boy who cried wolf. And yes that story does end with the boy getting et but he told so many lies who'd believe it? Maybe trump was tapped, but why should I believe him even if I wanted to given he can't tell the truth consistently? Either way VERY solid argument and one of the better I've heard in a while

>>726258248
>implying anyone who actually take Trumps word as the gospel must be a child.
>Pretends to be smart.
>Doesn't realize he's an idiot.

>>726258310
>im a total fucking moron
good to know

>>726257634
yeah, I think the same, but how fuckin glorious would it be to see him kick the orange idiot's ass in court and having the president of US pay him a huge settlement?

>>726255495
I know why they did - you honestly believe he is going to save your way of life. Will you care if he breaks up the unions? Or are they a thing of the past?

How much do you make per hour?

Do you have a union job?

>opening up the gulf of mexico.

Thanks, I"ll look into that. Can you be more specific about what you mean, so I can look it up?

Are you on SNAP right now? I'm honestly curious. Do you know people who are?

>>Of course that doesn't change the fact that you're in a dying fucking industry.

How do you see yourself being able to compete with works from other countries, and still make $30+ Is there any option beyond tarrifs/protectionism?

>>726250010
Seems like it would be pretty hard to conduct in investigation without some form of electronic surveillance.

>>726258310
>less corrupt than Trump

kek she's not less corrupt she's just better at hiding it

>>726258023
There apparently was no hard evidence on Hillary's emails, but EVERYONE knows the email scandal was true and she deserved to be in jail. You don't go through all that effort to delete 30000 emails if it's not. And yet because she did all that, she's morally right because she managed to make all the bad evidence against her disappear! That's what liberals believe.

>>726250010
I think the cartoon in the current issue of Private Eye sums up quite succinctly who would be most likely to be behind wirer-tapping Trump. Who's newspapers have the most form on phone-hacking? Step forward Trump's good friend and fellow tax-dodger Rupert Murdoch.

>>726258139
I've lived around them, but I'm liberal. My point was to talk about their mentality.

>>726258926
>I'm liberal
so you're even more retarded than them. woah

It's getting to the point that the only people defending him are obvious shills or are just from the_donald and /pol/.

Trump is literally a joke.

>>726258915
she also lied under oath to congress, and sent classified documents over her private server, and there was the actual content of all those leaks, which was absolutely revolting, yet idiots still say trump is more corrupt, despite there being 0 evdience

>>726259033
nope, I know a perfectly reasonable person (normally) that defends him totally- simply because he's still pissed off at the stealing of the nomination by Hilary. Why can't both sides be awful...

>>726258310
Here's how right-wing propaganda makes wonders when it comes to brainwash retards:

>fucked up benghazi and let those people die

yeah, because it was totally up to her to prevent this... oh wait, it wasn't. Only retards who know NOTHING can suggest this.

>gave away our uranium to Russia

evidence needed

>took bribes from Saudis

evidence needed, the money for the NON-PROFIT Clinton foundation has been disclosed by the Clintons, but since it's NON-PROFIT they cannot use that money. Quite the opposite of the Trump Foundation, a scam used by Trump to steal donation money and use it for his legal fees.

>assassinated that Seth dude

Conspiracy bullshit Infowars-tier idiocy.


What's funny is that you don't even look like a trump supporter, you're just a lazy faggot, too lazy to actually care about the truth.

>>726258628
This comedy is writing itself.

>>726259033
>brainwashed by liberal msm
sad

>>726258915
>You don't go through all that effort to delete 30000 emails if it's not.

...are you so retarded that you have trouble clearing your inbox? It's fairly simple, have your handler show you how.

>>726258505
>To every individual, there is a point where they would curse his name over cheering it

There are certain truths, that to name them - unmake a person. I'm going to give you an example. I have a good friend, she was abused as a child. physically and mentally. As a result, she is pretty fucked up in the head. I'm just going to pretend she has PTSD.

She can admit that she has PTSD, because it was basically her Dad's fault. The is a trauma victim. But, if you question her logic, or say that she is acting a certain way because of that PTSD - she will violently deny that.

Basically, she can't admit that she is "crazy" or "mentally ill" , even though that is literally what she claims when she says she has PTSD.

Why? because her dad used to say that she was crazy and lying and stuff. that she doesn't remember what it was really like, and that he treated her fine.

For her to admit she is mentally ill, is in her mind, to admit that her dad was right. If she's mentally ill, maybe he didn't abuse her. but she KNOWS he abused her. Therefore she can't be mentally ill.

For her to admit she is mentally ill, will UNMAKE her as a person. It will destroy her identity.

She will die before she lets that happen. Her life would have to be so fucking bad before she would take that step.

So when you look at these people and why they vote - look at what they have to admit to themselves to be "wrong". You are asking them to commit suicide of their own identity.

>>726250796
Agree

>>726259240
literally all those things are true, you just don't know what you're talking about. I can tell you're from reddit btw, the spacing, ignorance, liberal idiocy is a dead giveaway. back to your safespace, r/politics

>>726259319
She did her deletion AFTER the scandal started and went through the effort to basically clean it up so thoroughly so all the data is completely not recoverable. That's COMPLETELY different than just clearing your inbox... Plus she fucking let her emails pile UP to 33000 which means she typically wasn't the person who would clear her inbox. No, she OBVIOUSLY did it because of the investigation.