which country is going to be the first to put a man on Mars?

>>725105676
Fuck you and your stupid shit

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>>725105676
>country
>EU
KEK

Like the EU is going to be around thst long.

>>725105676
None.
The world is flat and Mars is flat.
Everything is flat.
1884822° California I'll.

>>725105676
Who say it'll be a country? The space industry would be lucrative as hell if we found a more efficient way to get to orbit (elevator, magnetic propulsion etc) mining in space would be profitable as hell. Asteroids have higher concentrations of precious metals than the earth's crust. It may be a corporation that forms the first permanent human settlements on mars

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>>725106174

The one with stars in the flag.

>>725105676
Fuck you and your poorly disguised bait. Stupid fat americunt

Well, they should try going to the moon 1st. No one has done it yet

>>725106751
>identifies the bait
>goes full retard and begins showing his eurotard self anyway

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>>725106658
Not even mad.
That's clever.

>>725106751

i bet youre too ashamed to say what country your from

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>>725106658

>>725107033
>EU

>europe
LOL

itll be usa or russia as usual

>>725107147

exactly

too ashamed to state your country. hahahaha you irrelevant cock sucker. cringy bastard. get out big balls out of your mouth

it will require the entire resources this planet has to offer and that STILL won't be enough considering many of the technologies needed do not even exist or haven't been throughly tested in which the manner they will be utilized

>>725107326
Look whose mad now

>>725107208
>Russia
Fat fucking chance that corrupt cesspit will ever have a dedicated space program again, they're just taking the warheads off ICBMs and then slap on a payload

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>>725107483

not mad one bit. go back to 9gag you fucking nerd. you clearly dont have anything intelligent to say. crawl back into your mud hut, faggot and dream about us.

>>725105676
Elon Musk, the rest arn't really even trying

China. The EU is disintegrating. The US is a white trash trailer park reality show and doesn't science any more.

>>725105676
By the time it happens (around 2050), India will be top country. So I think India

>>725107731
>india amounting to anything

>>725107666
>goes full nerdrage
>rolls satan trips
>not mad one bit
Sure buddy, I can even hear you choking on your cheeseburger from behind my screen

>>725107885

hahhahahaha you irrelevant piece of shit. i asked you your country and you stated > EU aahahahaha what a fucking cringy nerd sucking on our AMERICAN DICK. GET OFF OUR DICK FAGGOT

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>>725107804
you are in for a rude awakening ameritard

>>725108007
>not mad one bit

>>725107367
IF it IS a government run affair they'll probably collaborate, the ISS isn't run by one nation in its entirety why would a colonization be any different the cold war is over so there's less of a "my dick is bigger than yours contest" to claim all the glory. Still putting my money on private industry for lasting colonization, not like the moon where we were on it for a few hours and left. Governments wouldn't see the usefulness of a permanent colony it would be solely scientific and small scale.

>>725108103

> STILL JEALOUS AND MAD ON OUR BIG AMERICAN DICK

>>725105676
I'm sure you know NASA has plans to put humans on Mars sometime in the 2030s.

>>725108054
Unless you find a way to make shit propelled rockets, there's no chance in hell you will get there.

Oh wait, the only thing you guys invented is the zero. And it was thousands of years ago.

>>725108054
haha id like to see india try to do anything to america. its a third world shithole that is getting shittier by the day

>>725108318
theyre taking over our 7/11's and doctors at an alarming rate

>>725108271


>Zero was invented independently by the Babylonians, Mayans and Indians (although some researchers say the Indian number system was influenced by the Babylonians). The Babylonians got their number system from the Sumerians, the first people in the world to develop a counting system.

>>725108054
yeah good luck fighting with those shitty INSAS rifles,you ripoff the AK47 (low tech but reliable and cheap) and somehow make it an unreliable clusterfuck to such a degree they're just starting to replace them with AK47s. India is not a technological superpower in any sense of the word.

>>725108587
Leaves them with nothing but designated streets then

>>725105676
Either the chinks, because they are still willing to spend stupid amounts of money on prestige projects which every sensible country has abandoned now, or a private group from the US such as Space x or Blue origin.

>>725108798
>Chinese are the only ones willing to spend stupid amounts of money on prestige projects
Dude, do you know how much the US spends on weapons that'll probably never get used? The US spends more on defense than the 2nd/3rd/4th ranked defense budgets combined. Not saying its worth it, but if any country can waste a shit ton of money it's the US

what is alarming is that in one region almost half the world population exists, moreover by two countries that don't appear to the warmest regards for each other...this affects the entire planet. to dismiss either nation is to be a complete fucking retard.

>>725109338
haven't the US gutted NASA's funding for the past 20 years or so?

>>725105676
>EU

I think Russia was what you meant to place in that spot

>>725109498

unfortunately that hold some merit, but they have accomplished a lot with what they have, which definitely is not nearly enough to achieve the endeavors which they designed to do.

>>725110255
If NASA goes anywhere (the Moon, Mars) it'll probably be on the dime of a rich corporation/person. Unless multiple countries unite with the aim of going to another planet, but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon.

>>725109498
Yeah, but they still spend shit tons of money on prestige projects through DARPA and the DOD. I think a corporation is the most likely going to start the first permanent extra terrestrial colonies. Once space travel is efficient there's money to be made harvesting precious metals from asteroids and moons. Governments don't care that much about space travel anymore because there's no returns for the money they invest and are increasingly contracting it out to private industry, economies of scale could create tons of money for the people willing to invest on the technology. Space travel is so expensive because it's really only being done on a small scale for scientific reasons, once profits are attainable the industry will explode

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>>725105676
>EU
>country

shill confirmed.

let's not forget the enormous challenge of space junk, since building a spaceship on earth wouldn't be possible...yet.

>>725107731
> designated shitting canals

>>725109815
Yes, Russia and now China are dedicated to manned space programs. U.S. used to be good, but gave it all up to become space hitchhikers. Anybody else with a space program is basically India-tier.

>>725111869
Yeah, the US is such shit. Russia and China's system for lifting a payload greater than the mass of the entire space shuttle into orbit is much better.
>Oh wait...

>>725112045
> doesn't realize the space shuttles were mothballed

>>725105676
I'm rootin for the home team, but what with the fuckin idiots I see spouting bullshit these days...who the fuck knows.

>>725108722
They aren't, but they are catching up. They are poised to take on a lot of manufacturing jobs in the near future as China starts getting 'too expensive' due to its own economic growth, and they will develop up at a faster rate than China did. Meanwhile, the rest of the world just gets fatter and lazier.

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>>725105676
Sorry you lost

>>725112410
>the rest of the world just gets fatter and lazier.
sign me up!

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None of those shitty answers,
This is the obvious answer....

>>725113033
That looks like the flag of fagistan

>>725113093
I obviously speak the truth because I have been blessed with dubs by our Lord and Saviour KEK!

>>725113033
p r a i s e b e

>>725113212
Now you just need to figure out how to troll space

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>>725105676
China.

The other two will be so busy narrowing their talent pool by insisting women represent 50% of their engineering workforce, and a woman is 1st to set foot on the ground.

Logical failure follows. China will just get shit done, no fucks given, man or woman on the tools or in the seat.

Shitposting white ausfag out.

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>>725112045

nigga do you even SLS?

Its gunna be Canada don't-ya-know it eh

Russia, because they won't give a fuck if dozens of rockets blow up and hundreds of people die, they'll just keep trying

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>>725107604
Good going son.

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>>725105676
>thinking one of those three will be the first to land on Mars

>>725113425
They're going to invent rockets powered by beer and white male cistears, ay?

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Lessee if I can post today...

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So there's a few problems we have getting humans to mars, and this is before we choose to bring them back, or leave them there.

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>>725113310
The almighty Pepe will lead us in this magnificent endeavour.

>>725113507
30 years ago true, but now that's china

The first big one is the problem of solar flares.

See, without the Earth's magnetic field, one solar flare would bake everyone and everything not under eleven feet of concrete to a nice toasty golden brown.

Once our astronauts are off to Mars, they don't have the luxury of the magnetic field.

We waited for low tide for the moon shots, and had a couple of scares, but none of the Apollo missions actually got cooked.

But that was a risk we took to go to the moon.

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Crap. I forgot a pic. Sorry about that.

If we go to Mars, that's a nine month journey minimum (when the planets are ideally aligned). And we're going to have solar flares.

Which means we need a material that is the equivalent of eleven feet of concrete for the hull of our space capsule.

i'll just leave this here:

http://spacenews.com/nasa-moving-ahead-with-plans-for-cislunar-human-outpost/

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>>725105954
>american race

>>725114066
>none of the Apollo missions actually got cooked.
except apollo 1, but that was a different situation

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Another problem is zero gravity. Put humans in freefall for nine months, and they'll atrophy and be incapable of functioning on Mars.

And that's the least of the health problems.

We'll need to create gravity, say by spinning the capsule. But that's going to require a pretty sturdy structure. Better than what we got.

>>725114025
Yes and no. China's the new upstart and has done lots of flashy things (Tiangong etc.), but Russia has proved they're in it for the long haul so don't count them out.

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>>725105676
<<answear this thread
first EU is not a country and so is ESA
second US gonna attack China
thuird US never got money for anthing then weapons, so guess pretty much noone gonna fly to the mars

>>725114312
"Cislunar"? Does that mean they they identify with the satellite they're born on?

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>>725114373
Yes. Not by a solar flare.

Then there's cosmic rays. Not many get down here through the atmosphere. But up in space the astronauts could see them sparking off their eyelids when they tried to sleep.

We still don't know their health hazards. Insomnia, for one.

>>725114410
china cares less about negative PR things like rockets exploding because they can still cover it up from their own people more so than russia can now

>>725114407
Not to mention propulsion, unless that magic new drive they're testing actually works

>>725114559

don't forget about the massive amounts of poop!

>>725114424
really forgot the russians here, maybe they do it

>>725114609
Probably about equal on that, because of Russian stoicism. They'll make them heroes, and move on.

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Then there's supplying our crew with food and air. Do we create for them a massive terrarium? Or do we send them up with lots of beans and oxygen? And carbon dioxide filters?

The bigger the crew (say what would be necessary for a permanent colony) the more likely we'll go with the space garden. But if we're sending a couple of dudes for a scouting mission, the beans start looking better.

Still, TONS of supplies.

>>725114761
I read Packing for Mars a while back. The author was obsessed with poop. She must have some kind of fetish.

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>>725114761

That's an advantage of the garden. We can compost poop.

Otherwise, we dump it into space. But it means, yes, astronaut toiletries.

>>725114850
1 guy and a bunch of robots. then they can watch crappy movies and make fun of them on their journey there

>>725114850

also, mention the psychological affects long term space will have on a crew especially if there is a female crew member. (traps ftw)

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>>725114932

Look up the NASA poop project. They elected winners and runners up.

But yes, the challenge was to create a system that allowed astronauts to poop and stay clean without changing their space suits.

>>725114950
doubt they would just dump it into space, they would at least need to dry it out and recycle the water

space doesnt exist and the earth is flat. we ve been lied to all our life.
you think im joking, but im not.

>>725115131
but God even said he made the heavens.. is.. is God a liar??

>>725114950

um, dump it into space?
>nope.jpg
it will literally orbit around the space vessel

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What it all comes down to is a fuckton of factors we haven't resolved.

Sending guys to space to die half way there isn't going to do our respective space programs any favors.

>>725115103
And according to the book, it was a massive failure because they listened to these crazy dieticians who gave them all this greasy food that made shitting a slimy mess. Instead of what the Apollo guys wanted, which was basically steaks in a bag, and would have resulted in small hard poops.

She went on and on and on about that, and all the shit particles flying around everywhere all the time.

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>>725115248
Uh negative. Even a really big starship (say the size of Manhattan) wouldn't have enough gravity to let poop orbit. Unless it sticks to the hull accidentally, it'll float away.

>>725114932
>The author was obsessed with poop.
She is probably from India

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So it's not likely that we're anywhere near a serious manned Mars mission. Unless we were to invest amazing amounts of money and STEM manpower into R&D, it'll be at least twenty years before launch.

Though the money we invested into the Apollo program returned $14 on the dollar, so it wouldn't be a bad investment.

But our governments are all poor right now.

>>725115518

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/05/space_plumbing_101.html

>>725115811
Our governments are richer than they've ever been. They just got crazy wives (progressives) who spent more money than they can steal

>>725115585
Her name's Mary Roach. Maybe that's her totem animal.

India

India.

India

>i know this shit

http://www.popsci.com/brief-history-pooping-in-space

>>725105676
The trick isn't putting the man on mars, its getting him back.

>>725116125
>>725116119
>>725116437
Poo in the loo

>>725117214
You know, that's an idea. But take it a little further. Instead of sending a guy on a one-way mission, just shoot a corpse in some kind of capsule, and crash it into the Red Planet.

Even India might be able to manage that, and it would be enough to get them in the record books.

>>725107367
The US put a man on the moon with 60s technology and computers less powerful than what is in your pokewalker. Space flight is actually not hard. Its just expensive and the government monopoly on it removes the profit motive to bring costs down (most of NASA is seems to be welfare for engineers so they don't work for other places).

>>725117570
>seems to be welfare for engineers so they don't work for other places
just like always
>you helped kill 10000000 people in ww2? come work for US and not russia and we'll forget all about it and gives you monies

>>725118042
The rocket scientists were small fry compared to the doctors we got from Japan. Even the Soviets executed the ones they caught. The US just gave them research hospitals.

>>725118163
>Soviets executed the ones they caught
that's what they want you to think

>>725105676
RUSSIA

>>725117570
>government monopoly on it removes the profit motive to bring costs down

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