>assassinate or arrest and prosecute >welcome back

>>724836136
Assassinate, fuck him.

>>724836136
Used to think he was a hero. But saw some evidence on Twitter he coordinated with the Russians before he made his escape. Its no coincidence he ended up in moscow, dude was a Russian agent/collaborator. Fuck him, assasinate

>>724836571
>evidence on Twitter
Yeah, fuck you and whatever who wants to come back to the USA after that shit? USA should pardon him and send him someplace nice instead.

>>724836764
He wants to come back but is afraid to be in prison forever lol

>>724836970
So he's a pussy

He shouldn't expose national security secrets, a lot of spies died because of him

>>724837073
He literally leaked their wiki. Nobody died, unless the USA tortured random people to death trying to find him like they usually do.

If he comes to any nice country in the West he's going to be extradited. His prison is Russia now.

>>724837073
you have zero proof of that and nobody else does either.

he basically exposed the american government as everything stephen king fantasizes about and nobody cared because autists like you think when the government snoops on you and gathers your data that it's okay

>>724837198
How do you know?

I think he's ought to be welcomed as a hero. That's just me though, I think the guy took a stand for what he believed was right. I don't give a fuck about the Russian conspiracies and all that, and hell I don't give a fuck about what America is or isn't doing.

He is a hero. Strange times when a person has to escape to Russia for their freedom.

>>724837470
Cause it's a leak, that means it's leaked and it was a wiki. Besides the NSA doesn't have spies. As far as USA torturing and killing random innocent people that's public, the grounding of an embassy plane hunting snowden shows how far outside the law they'll go for stupid shit.

>>724837633
So.

What is America doing now?

>>724837073
the nsa isn't supposed to have spies, retard

>>724837428
it is in fact okay. nothing bad comes from them spying on you. at most they just sell your info so people who make ads can make better ads. you think the nsa is interested in who your not fucking? please.

>>724838609
Well as they don't actually have the authority to do those things it's proof that they really don't give a fuck about laws. A proven criminal organization running the country may eventually cause problems. It basically affects everyone automatically.

>>724838236
Not understanding how the NSA works, god I hate you stupid fucks sometimes. He leaked classified info on how American military operations are preformed, he also leaked certain technologies to Russian that eventually go to China making work for the Navy and Army a shit ton harder to do. I worked in Intel for 4 years and the fallout from this piece of shit fucked us over immensely. All the faggots saying he showed the world what horrible things America has been doing have no idea that literally every nation that has the capability will do this. The U.S. doesn't spy on its people it just has the capability to. China has been doing it to us and its people for years but no one even cares. Literally retards in this thread right now that have no idea what they're talking about.

>>724838609
That's not how the NSA works dumb ass.

>>724839295
Amen

Americans lose their mind when you question the 2nd amendment.
An amendment that was created to make sure the people could act as a militia and overthrow a corrupt government.

The government begins using a technology with the ability to illegally spy on any citizen on almost any medium at any time.

A citizen stand up against it and lets the nation know..... and people want him imprisoned?

sooooo confusing

>>724836764
He made his plans to leave and release far more than just the NSA info once he got to the Russians.
He had his passport revoked for all travel except back to the US while he was in Hong Kong. Yet he still got on a plane of an airline owned by the Russian government without a valid passport and got to Moscow.
From last year, but here's a Newsweek article laying out what a traitor he was and that he collaborated with Putin and the Russians well before his leaks.
http://www.newsweek.com/why-obama-wont-pardon-edward-snowden-nsa-538632

>>724839295
Haha, we all know that every country is horrible. USA is just openly horrible now and that's a better thing than secretly horrible. It also does indeed spy on its people at all times, and has the capabilities to spy on anyone without any judicial oversight. These are bad illegal things and honestly defending them makes you a bad person. I'm sure snowden did a bunch of shitty stuff too, but that doesn't make you better than him.

Every one of the criminal spooks that goes home to their wife and kids, every night before they go to sleep they need to think to themselves "I'm going to hell" and then die horribly in a fire or something.

>>724839651
Yeah wikileaks hooked him up with diplomats and stuff, which is good cause he is literally political prisoner anywhere else.

>>724839295
Ill admit I have ZERO knowledge on NSA and the total workings about what happened with Snowden, but if you expect anyone to swallow the line:
>The U.S. doesn't spy on its people it just has the capability to.

You've got to be joking.

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>>724839295
those of us that do understand know that all snowden really did was just confirm what we already knew the government was doing

>>724839635
But that's not whats happened you dunce, he didn't take it to Russia he sold it to them for a profit. The U.S. doesn't spy on it's people, I work for the NSA. It's not used on U.S. citizens, and the man is a fucking traitor that sold out the American people for some money. He didn't just fuck over the military he fucked over his own people. I don't understand how people can't comprehend that.

>>724839857
Yes. Even since Bush everyone knew the government had the capability to spy on anyone. it was was an open secret. Snowden just confirmed for us ;)

>>724839857
He was really almost a decade too late to confirm it, too. Congress passed an entire law to stop prosecution of phone companies for their illegal wiretapping.

>>724839991
Again, it's already been proven in 2006ish that they do spy on everyone because you have to spy on everyone to be able to pull the little intentional spying bits out after the fact.

>>724839991
Because they take Snowden's word that he's just an underdog standing up to the big mean government.

>>724839668
M8 I literally worked for the NSA for 4 years in Intel, I guarantee the U.S. doesn't spy on it's own people. China on the other hand does, any apps they use are monitored heavily. "WeChat" is a huge one that many Americans use as well that literally gives away personal info that's on your phone to the Chinese. Americans don't do this.

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>>724836136
Hero.

>>724839851
I literally worked for NSA Intel for 4 years. I know people that have known Snowden personally, the guy was a piss poor IT that sold out America for a profit.

>>724840316
The 'third party doctrine' really lets the government off the hook for having access to private data. They simply have to ask for it from the providers themselves and it's suddenly "not spying." The "National Security Letters" also STILL get thrown around willy nilly without any legal backing and that's STILL "not spying"

There is a literal wiretap on backbone lines running ALL communications through the country, it's always collected, but as long as you don't peek, it's "not spying"

"M8" you're talkin bullshit.

>>724839295
>The U.S. doesn't spy on its people
Funny, facts say different.

>every nation that has the capability will do this
True, but that doesn't make it desirable, retard. Aren't we supposed to be better than the rest?

>>724840487

So you're saying the NSA is so inadequate they hired a piss poo IT specialist? Ya man...... I'm starting to trust you guys more and more by the second.

>>724836571
>being this retarded
only americucks can be proud of being stupid

>>724840141
>Again, it's already been proven in 2006ish that they do spy on everyone because you have to spy on everyone to be able to pull the little intentional spying bits out after the fact.

Holy shit, the technology was developed for military use, by military, it's not used on it's people, it never has been. I'm pretty sure most people just found out about Snowden and just put their tin foil hats on without actually knowing what happened.

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>>724840487
>I literally worked for NSA

>>724840709
lol yeah he must've been a piss poor it guy to get his hands on over a million classified documents

>>724840789
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_v._NSA
Yeah, "military" use. You're just spouting lies now, and this was all way before snowden.

>>724840141
>been proven in 2006ish

It was never proven that the U.S. has spied on its people that is complete bullshit. Snowden was a fucking traitor.

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>>724839991
>I work for the NSA.

>>724840986
He had access to their wiki, which was like "metadata" and documentation for their super secret projects. Not the projects themselves, just everything about them.

>>724841020
see >>724840990

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>>724836571
>saw some evidence on Twitter

>>724840496
>There is a literal wiretap on backbone lines running ALL communications through the country, it's always collected, but as long as you don't peek, it's "not spying"

You're straight making shit up. Go work for the NSA and tell me how much spying you do in a year on the American people. I'll tell you now it won't be any.

Jesus christ the retards posting here saying it's all good they never spied on people don't be retarded american government officials would never do such a horrible thing.

Are you fucking serious? How much are you faggots being paid for all this shilling?

>>724841279
See >>724840990

>It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic[3] and, as analyzed by J. Scott Marcus, a former CTO for GTE and a former adviser to the FCC, has access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore "the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic."[4] Former director of the NSA's World Geopolitical and Military Analysis Reporting Group, William Binney, has estimated that 10 to 20 such facilities have been installed throughout the United States.[2]

>>724841103
>He had access to their wiki
also used phishing to get the usernames and passwords of those in the nsa with greater access than a contractor like him

>>724840709
The NSA trained him you dunce. ITs that work for the NSA are trained by the NSA, he had TS clearance which allowed him to take the document. Does anyone here actually know how the NSA works?

>>724840990
holy shit you dumb ass i can use google too. But they aren't used for spying you fucking dunce.

>I can used da google so i nose stfuss.

Have you every worked in an Intel job before? Just curious.

Elect this hero president

>>724841090
Yeah because everyone knows that the NSA is an evil clocked society and not a job that has hiring throughout the military. Nope, no way no how there.

>>724841701
>fiber optic beam splitting
>getting a copy of all traffic
>....BUT IT DOESNT READ THE DATA
What do you think spying is? I'm not arguing that the NSA can't fucking organize or use all the shit they steal, I'm saying they're stealing it and they're going to hell.

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>>724841701
>But they aren't used for spying

>>724841336
Do you need your tin foil hat?

>Murica is evil, I'm going to China where they don't spy on their people.

please fucking do.

>>724842032
>implying he said Chine was better

This is what's wrong with you retards defending this shit. Just because other countries are worse doesn't me we shouldn't be improving ourselves. How fucking low are your standards if all you care about is 'at least we're not China'.

>>724841874
>>724842017
Literal retards in this thread who think the big bad government is out to get them. Literally no proof that the government is spying in them.

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>>724842272
>no proof

>>724842252
We haven't spied on our own people. There isn't one shred of evidence shown here yet saying that they have. Not one.

>>724842367
show it.

>>724836136
Arrest, trial, probably a hero, need to hear all the fact the gov't has that aren't public yet, though.

If his claims of escalating his concerns to no avail and a lot of 'shut up' replies are true, then hero. If he's lying about all that and went rogue, traitor, execute. But I need the full story, and he's refusing to give the American people that explanation.

If he's really a hero who wasn't listened to at all, then I'd happily and loudly petition for a full pardon, clemency, whatever applies.

By contrast, the idiots at wikileaks today are just looking to destroy America.

If he leaked information directly to an internal oversight agency, some good could come of it, but since it's always just haphazardly to all eyes that can see, it ends up spreading doubt to government offices and agencies that are completely unaffiliated.

Leaks of any sort have to policed, because the actors cannot be trusted to account for the inadvertent damage they do.

>>724841481
> Does anyone here actually know how the NSA works
No. But I do know enough to know there's an NDA for employees and ex-employees. Dude broke it, which is enough to get him into serious trouble.

Also, if you're >>724840487 and did work for the NSA, now's a good time to be careful not to say too much.

>>724842367
It's bait to ask for proof? ok sounds like perfect logic to me.

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>>724842413
>>724842439

>>724842272
>>724842413
There's only evidence that they spy on literally everyone. Not individuals.

>>724842476
Wouldn't be a leak in that case, but either way he should be protected under those fancy whistleblower laws. I mean, he's not because Obama said so, but he should.

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>>724842032
don't even have to, I'm not a retard americuck and wouldn't go there if i was paid to do it.

China a better place? Probably not
Murica is evil? Hell fucking yes, and you can't say with a straight face otherwise. All anyone needs to do is a revision of the history of your shithole country and the wars it has been involved in, and most importantly the reason for their involvement.
Fuck right off back to wherever it is you crawled from shitlord

>>724842496
I haven't said anything that's against my contract. I actually care about and honor my word unlike Snowden. Who literally sold America for a profit.

>>724842541
That's what i thought back the fuck up.

>>724842568
show it.

>>724842752
>being this dense

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>>724842677
Turning news into money is fine too, just remember for all your patriotism that you're going to burn in hell for participating in all the illegal spying. You can really do whatever you want from here on out cause your position is secured. God granted mankind a right to privacy and some people just love to hate God so they go to hell.

>>724842752

>>724836136
>>724836136

>prostitute

Absolutely Halal.jpg

>>724842668
>Murica is evil? Hell fucking yes, and you can't say with a straight face otherwise.

The fuck I can't, America is what gives you the right to shit talk on the internet. So yeah it's real fucking evil.

>Fuck right off back to wherever it is you crawled from shitlord

yeah that's what I though back the fuck off.

>>724842817
Still not showing proof. Expected about as much.

>>724842902

>burn in hell for participating in all the illegal spying.

Theirs been no illegal spying.

>>724840487
>worked for NSA intel
>intel

Either you're 13 or a liar

>>724842902
I love server rooms so secure

Except for the Floor

Except for the Conditioning system

Except that it's mostly metal AC current loves metal kids

He's an pretty cool guy eh looking out for American freedom and doesn't sorry about nothing

>>724842568
From the perspective of someone or some agency that lost control of intel it's still a leak, regardless of where it goes, even if it's a whistleblower reporting to internal agencies.

>>724843191
I applied for a Job at an ATM once
she didn't want $20

>>724842677
> sold for a profit
Yeah, probably. Biggest factor for me was the NDA break... I bet any company who employed his before this shit had a damn good look through their systems. Probably the only reason he took the NSA job was to go digging.

That's what pisses me off about the guy. He wasn't just some tech who 'stumbled' across mind blowing documents about murica's sins, he was there to get all the shit he could find

>>724843191
Or I'm prior Navy Intel that worked for the NSA. It's not some evil shadow government thing, it's a career.

>>724836136
He did what he thought was right, and I can't fault someone for doing that.
And, personally, I agree with the message.
We each deserve a bit of privacy, especially when it comes to the most sensitive information in our possession.

>>724836136
He's a hero, most of you are probably too young to remember Daniel Elsberg, but this case is basically the same.

>>724843165
>Condemning Snowden for showing proof
>'Still not showing proof'

Must be confusing being you.

>>724842017
>>724842367
>>724842541
>>724842817
>Claims to have proof
>Shows no proof
Ok

>>724843165
Don't you guys take oaths to the Constitution? Shouldn't break those. Hell and all.

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>>724842979
>America is what gives you the right to shit talk on the internet
rolfmao what? on the basis of what you moron, and even if that were true, so what? whats your fucking point?

>that's what I though back the fuck off.
so you're really that retarded you need to recycle your comebacks yeah? really go take a shower kid you smell.

>>724843534
He sold military operations and technologies you dunce, there was literally nothing on spying on American people. You would know this if you read literally anything about what's happened with him.

>>724843641
I haven't

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>>724843767
except it's literally the opposite, must be hard times if you have to shill this bad for a few extra shekels

>>724843661

>and even if that were true, so what? whats your fucking point?

You even fucking admit it so how is America evil exactly?

Ì actually work for the NSA. AMA.
You can contact me via codec; my frequency is 140.85.

>>724843841
Well we've still got some cases against the NSA puttering through the courts saying otherwise, we'll hopefully see unless its a *STATE SECRET*

>Governments don't get rights
>State secrets

>>724843946
Sigh

>>724843916
How is it the opposite? That's literally what he did.

>>724843641
No... they take oaths to the President and to serve America.

Think the only people who have to specifically swear to the Constitution are politicians, and we all know what they're like.

>>724843987
show proof otherwise get your tin foil hat and get out of here.

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>>724836136
Go back to /pol/, you MAGAtte

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>>724836136
Hero.
>>724836335
Cuck.
>>724836571
Fucking lol.
Dude he's a boring normal guy from a traditional American military family. Are you CTR?
>>724837073
Literally no one died. I hope you're just lying and don't actually believe that. No one even COULD die from what he leaked. He didn't leak undercover agents names to the press. He leaked the projects that the NSA uses to record in mass the lives of everyone on the planet.
>>724839295
>leaked certain technologies to Russian
Your English is bad. Also no he did not. Do you read infowars?
>The U.S. doesn't spy on its people it just has the capability to
Holy hell, dude. READ THE LEAKS. They literally record everything everybody does through our devices and computers. It's exactly what they do.
>>724840487
LOL yeah I literally worked at Nintendo and the Switch 2.0 will be out for christmas.
>>724842272
You're calling people retards because you think there's no proof the goverment is spying on everybody....in a thread about a person who leaked proof to the press detailing how the government spies on everybody.
Dude...
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
>>724842439
>>724842752
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs

>>724843165
>Theirs
Your English is terrible and yes there has.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
>>724843767
Wrong. He did not sell technology. He leaked proof of completed surveillance projects to the press. You would know this if you read literally anything about what's happened with him.

>>724843767
bait?

phone calls, emails etc of AMERICAN citizens are scooped up in their entirety and put into a database where the nsa has their own search engine to select any American and SPY on their archived communications

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>The world is run by memes.
>It's a game, just like usual.
>The mission is a failure, cut the power, right now.
>La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo!

>>724843916
Are you retarded or just trolling? I think you're just retarded because what your saying is wrong. Are you saying he stole secretes from Russia and gave them to the U.S.?

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>>724843921
>You even fucking admit it so how is America evil exactly?

How is it that this is the conclusion you arrive at from my post? You unbelievably thick motherfucker

>>724844137
Proof of what? That the government invokes the "state secrets privilege" to kill lawsuits against their illegal wiretaps? That's as plain as court documents are gonna get. Doesn't make it legal, of course. Takes congress to pass a law to make it legal... which is also illegal law cause Constitution overules those. We'll see soon enough.

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>>724844137
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs

>>724844240
But then what?
Like, what do they do with that information? What possible use could it have?

I guess if you were a pedo or terrorist or weapons trader or something it could be used against you, but they aren't going to find that shit out unless they're spying on you in the first place.

Can all the 8 anons on this thread who work in the NSA go ahead and prove it by posting something as proof?

>we're not spying on you
We have been compomised. Commence second phase of operation social engineering

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Everyone ITT is wasting their time, there is only one retard here saying murica did nothing wrong, everybody walk the dinosaur! And he is almost certainly just trolling, nobody can be that dense

>>724843767
>He sold military operations and technologies
How about you show us the proof of that?

>>724844211
>Your English is bad. Also no he did not. Do you read infowars?

You're a fucking retard if you believe infowars. Also how is my English bad, because that's literally what he did.

>LOL yeah I literally worked at Nintendo and the Switch 2.0 will be out for christmas

Because only the Jews work for the government right? Get your tinfoil hat back on.

>You're calling people retards because you think there's no proof the government is spying on everybody....in a thread about a person who leaked proof to the press detailing how the government spies on everybody.

None of that has been spying on the American people though, how is any of that spying?

>Your English is terrible and yes there has.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs

I fucked up on my English once, dang you caught me. How about you stop using Ad hominem logic and actually try to from an argument.

>Wrong. He did not sell technology. He leaked proof of completed surveillance projects to the press. You would know this if you read literally anything about what's happened with him.

Wrong again he did sell technologies. Data and info are called technologies you dunce.

>>724844567
You can always find a use for it later, thats a major reason that widespread untargeted surveillance is bad. If they want to look back on somebody they get interested in they have all the more ammunition to use against them.

That's why searches of all of these things legally require warrants which the NSA doesn't have.

>>724844605
I work at the NSA 4 years sadly I can't get anything because reasons

>>724844357
My god the mental gymnastics you are doing right now are astounding.

>>724844791
So did Obama really put chems in the water that made the frogs gay?

>>724844370
That's what I though back the fuck up and don't forget your tinfoil hat.

>>724844379
For the love of fucking god that's not proof of American surveillance.

>>724844605
i work at the NSA 9 years ask me anything

>>724844975
Where do the lizardpeople overlords live?

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>>724844791
Oh ok, so you didn't work at the NSA for 4 years. Either you have proof or you keep your trap shut.

>>724844758
Holy shit that is literally everything that's he's done. Nothing else has even gone into the case involving Snowden. That's literally it.

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>ITT

>>724844780
>he did sell technologies
proof or gtfo

>>724845104
not the same anon retard but nice try.

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>>724844849
(you)

>>724845118
So no proof then? Gotcha, now back the fuck up.

>>724844975
Post something classified then

>>724836136
Technical traitor, allied with enemy, kill.

>>724845166
So I guess Snowden is wanted as a traitor for no reason then. Because he didn't sell out military info to Russia, that's not why he's wanted by the U.S. government. Nope, no way no how. Does anyone here actually know what he did? No? Oh ok then.

>>724845223
Yeah that's what I though back the fuck up.

>>724845242
They were building a nuclear-capable weapon off the coast of Alaska, in the Bering Sea; a small island with the codename "Shadow Moses".
We had 24 hours to dispatch the terrorists, and only one man capable for the job.

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>>724844605
i used to work for the NSA but then i grew a conscience

>>724845432
No proof, I heard you the first time, back the fuck up please.

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>>724836571
>Fuck him, assassinate

>>724836136
welcome back as a hero. he left a GOAT life behind just to tell you that, again, your government is abusing its power.
"fuck him" is an inappropriate response.

>>724845596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

Is it hard being this retarded?

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>>724836136
Invite him for some drinks he obviously knows more secret shit than anyone, tell him hey can you set up my computer because you know all hacking shit.
I dont want goverments to know when I fap.

>>724844780
No, Infowars is terrible.
>Because only the Jews work for the government right? Get your tinfoil hat back on.
Wat
No, I'm pointing out that you can't make gradiose unproveable claims on the internet and expect people to believe them.
>None of that has been spying on the American people though, how is any of that spying?
None of what?
How is any of what spying?
Using colossal automated systems to record the movements, personal messages, phone calls, voice notes, photos taken, video calls, emails, SMS, Jabber chats, web traffic, stored files, literally everything, of all people in the US and beyond, is spying. Please read the documents here -
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
>Wrong again he did sell technologies. Data and info are called technologies you dunce.
I haven't been wrong yet. He sold nothing. There is nothing about him selling anything. He contacted journalists/papers Glenn Greewald, Laura Poitras, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and the Guardian and gave the documents to them. He sold nothing. He gave the documents that show what the NSAs technology does to the press.

>>724845485
What were the coordinates of the island and the exact classification?

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>>724845472
>Yeah that's what I though back the fuck up.
this again? here have another (you) big man, and don't forget to give grandma a hug before bed

>>724838236
NSA mission is literally electronic eavesdropping and spying - fucking retard

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>>724845735
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisting

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>>724839295
so you basically just leaked yourself out ?

>>724845735
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
There is no proof there. Back the fuck up some more.

>>724845750
First off Infowars is garbage and biased

You have yet to show proof of spying and you're just talking out your ass.

>I haven't been wrong yet. He sold nothing.

Yes he did that's the whole reason the U.S. government wants him. He literally sold military info to the Russians.

>>724845768
Again I get you you don't have a rebuttal so you go to this. I get it now get your tin foil hat back on and have a nice day.

>>724845939
>>724846156
Room 641a was literally spying devices planted in the USA spying on Americans. That's illegal. What do you require as proof beyond the actual proof of the room and the spying device?

>>724846156
>Yes he did
Prove it

protip: you can't, because he didn't

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>>724840487
Did you worked as a guy that does surveys like International Data Collector ?
IDC shit that is not been a spy that is doing surveys, even ex convicts do that shit from Mexico.

>>724845884
Yeah that's what i thought. Confronted with info and you shriek away.

>>724845764
53°38′N 167°00′W

Solo sneaking mission, weapons OSP

>>724845906
How exactly?

>>724845939
God it must be really hard for you to read.

I guess it's a coincidence that WikiLeaks campaigns happens to constantly coincide with Russian cyber-warfare and dezinformatsiya operations against the United States.
Fuck that noise.

>>724846283
I already sent the link, must be hard to read I guess.

>>724846374
Bedtime. Go to bed fag

>>724836136
assassinate, but hold as a martyr

>>724846398
admiting that you work for the NSA you just blown your cover nothing personal kid but you know how this works.

>>724846446
>>724846554
>still no proof

It's getting repetitive tbh

>>724846574
Infiltrate fortress Galuade.
Destroy Metal Gear.

>>724846156
>First off Infowars is garbage and biased
Yes, I agree.
>You have yet to show proof of spying and you're just talking out your ass.

I have linked you to the NSA documents like four times now. Here's a fifth.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs

>Yes he did that's the whole reason the U.S. government wants him. He literally sold military info to the Russians.
On what basis do you make that claim? Do you have a source for that? The only reason he is even in Russia is because he got stuck there when the US took his passport status away during a layover.

>>724846539
It occurs during the USA's cyberwarfare and disinformation campaigns too though. These things don't stop, they are a constant now. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's giving wikileaks things to leak at useful times, just don't think it matters.

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>>724846262
>you don't have a rebuttal
that's funny, coming from you and all.

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>>724836136
Arrest and prosecute him, but also decorate him and possibly reduce his sentence. That man is a fucking hero.

>>724846819
>cyberwarfare
KEK IMMA SMASH THAT DISLIK BUTTON

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>>724842413
I don't care if this is bait. I literally hope you die.

>>724847016
he's trolling, successfully by the looks of it

Gender is a social construct.

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>>724847138

>>724846631
It's fine for me to say that m8

>>724846687
well when no proof is being shown but you're still making claims.

>>724846722
>Yes, I agree.
Then why would you cite it in the first place?

>I have linked you to the NSA documents like four times now. Here's a fifth.
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs

Which says nothing on the U.S. collecting anything that's considered data.

>On what basis do you make that claim? Do you have a source for that? The only reason he is even in Russia is because he got stuck there when the US took his passport status away during a layover.

I've sent you the link enough times already.

>>724846885
considering that fact that i've given plenty? I guess it's pretty funny.

Soldiers are murderers, and perpetuate death and violence.

>>724847209
>Anything that's considered data
>literally everything is considered data
>metadata still data
Also anything encrypted. Also everything was transported to them first to be disposed of after collecting it to begin with.

I think of him as a tragic patriot: he saw what he thought went against the spirit of this country, which was government intrusion and massive invasion of privacy, and he was rightfully horrified of it. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans were already posting all of their personal shit on social media and didn't give two fucks about it.

So, I say let him back into the country, no fanfare and no prosecution, and let him blend into sad anonymity.

>>724846819
Your Samsung TV might be hearing your conversations .....
And seen you masturbate to hentai and traps

>>724847016
>>724847109
Not trolling and it sucks that you're so ignorant that you believe anything that huffington post says. Really pathetic actually.

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>>724847209
>still no proof

>>724847426
I masturbate to these things in public already so that's okay, but I don't own a TV. But yeah, CIA shit is bigger than NSA's shit because they're already implicated in tons of crimes for it. NSA was at least backed by congress to cover up their crimes.

He is a hero fuck all of you that dont think and check em

>>724847375
Crazy how phone companies need to know how much time you spend on the phone amirte? Must be the military trying to 420 noscope blaze it huh?

>>724847490
>Still not showing proof.

Must be hard being a dunce huh?

>>724847016
cry more faggot and go back to tumblr before I impregnate your mom again.

>>724847748
I mean there's proof that AT&T was granted immunity after the fact, which means they were committing crimes before then. Is that enough? What does proof mean to someone who is (hopefully) paid to troll?

>>724847748
>still no proof
Wew lad, I do admire your consistence.

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>>724847209
>>Yes, I agree.
>Then why would you cite it in the first place?
Because I think you're the type of crazy person to read that stuff.
>>I have linked you to the NSA documents like four times now. Here's a fifth.
>https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/nsadocs
DUDE
LITERALLY EVERY DOCUMENT IS THERE IS ABOUT ONE SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM OR ANOTHER
BRO JUST READ THEM
Do I need to spoonfeed you them?
https://www.eff.org/document/2013-06-06-wapo-prism Heres the one about the backdoors to the servers that we store our data on via cloud services.
https://www.eff.org/document/2013-07-10-wapo-upstream Heres a thing about how the NSA taps into large Fiber Optic cables directly to copy raw traffic via the UPSTREAM program.
https://www.eff.org/document/2013-09-09-spiegel-smartphones Here's stuff about iPhones.
The list does on and on.
>Which says nothing on the U.S. collecting anything that's considered data.
>>On what basis do you make that claim? Do you have a source for that? The only reason he is even in Russia is because he got stuck there when the US took his passport status away during a layover.
>I've sent you the link enough times already.
You haven't posted any links, as far I I can tell.

"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;..."

>>724847900
>What does proof mean to someone who is (hopefully) paid to troll?
A wikipedia article apparently.

>>724847900
......It's like talking to a fucking retard about basic algebra. Do you know why phone companies need to know how much time you spend on the phone by chance? I'm just curious if you know or not since it seems you don't. What data do you think they're "collecting" on you by chance?

>>724848176
NSA is not a phone company genius.

>>724848176
I know why phone companies need to know how long I was on the phone, I don't know why the need to save who I was on the phone with or give that information to the government.

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>>724847960
m8 you cited it as if you thought it was reliable and you keep posting links that say nothing on about data collection from the U.S. military. so I don't know what you want me to say.

The pic is how I imagine you right now. Are you trying to lie or something?

>>724848310
Oh my god it must hurt to think sometimes for you I guess.

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>>724847467
wow he's really trying hard

>>724836136
Welcome back but still prosecute. Although he put the American People first he still broke soooo many laws.

>>724848479
Oh the irony.

>>724848318
Are you talking apps that ask for your permission to do that? kek ok

>>724848558
Prosecute him after all the people who broke laws trying to catch him.

>>724848486
Because Huff post is reliable

ok.

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>>724848424
>The pic is how I imagine you right now
going to borrow your words for pic related

>>724848676
Prove why it isn't, you conspiracy nut.

>>724848615
...Apps? No, unrelated to apps. What?

Phone companies bill based on time spent on the phone. They can totally use that information for valid reasons.

The other stuff's all bullshit and the government getting their hands on it should be illegal without a warrant.

>>724848601
nice ad hominem you used there m8, now do you understand why I said that or do I need to break it down for you because i'm starting to get the feeling you have no idea what I'm talking about or what Snowden did.

>>724847539
can you imagine anon suspect is lurking for how is baby form, suspect is lurking for how to buy a weapon, suspect is now furiously masturbating to hentai, suspect is now watching isil videos, now he is surfing gore and making banana threads.
over

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>>724848790
>still 0 proof

>>724848786
And what do you think that fiber optic cable is for then?

>The other stuff's all bullshit and the government getting their hands on it should be illegal without a warrant.

You don't know what Snowden did do you?

>>724848948
>You don't know what Snowden did do you?
How about you prove your accusations?

>>724842413
Nsa leaking nudes

>>724848917
Dancing around what I said, I expected about as much. So you don't know then do you?

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>>724839295
gib links or stfu shill

>>724848794
Are you saying that Huffpost is reliable then? If so I pity you.

>>724848948
I meant the phone company keeping data on anything but for billing purposes is bullshit. They probly use it for congestion analysis or something which doesn't require identifying information at all.

I'm not even talking about Snowden though, this is pre-snowden criminal spying.

>>724849011
That's what I though dance around what I said, are you trying to be a politician someday?

>>724840316
The USA does constantly spy on its own, dont' be a fucking liar. There's at least two people reading 4chan at all times thanks to /pol/ and Anonymous' use of the site. You're probably one of them.

>>724849050
>still can't provide any proof whatsoever
Thought so, back up some more kid.

>>724849116
Already did, just read the thread and you would see them.

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>>724849117
the funniest part is every reply you've gotten has links or every chain eventually ends up with people giving you links and you going "no broof no broof" and you havent provided shit, I'm like whatever I'm just here to see what other retarded shit you come up with and piss my pants laughing

>>724849233
Show proof or leave m8.

>>724844780
Data and info are known as output, not technologies
Also he did not sell, he gave away for free

>>724836136
i think the guys and girls working on the trenches as analysts are in a bad position just trying to do their jobs and not think about the political implications. they are basically good people. not sure about the higher ups who make it a game of political blackmail.

>>724849250
yeah that's way I thought keep using Ad hominem and ignoring the post and links i've already put down.

>>724849202
>no proof here
Expected as much, back the fuck up.

>>724849293
Links that say literally nothing about spying. Try and prove me wrong.

>>724849250
>>still can't provide any proof whatsoever
>Thought so, back up some more kid.
is this all you can say you mongoloid

>>724837014
More like rightfully afraid, why take bbc in the shower when you can have vodka and russian whores?

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>>724848424
You're saying that the US is not spying on people and I'm providing you links to NSA documents on how much data their systems collect on people. I was expecting something like "Oh, I had not seen this before. I was wrong. Thank you." You still have not linked me to proof of any of your claims.

>>724849376
Info and data are technologies you dunce.

>>724849406
>no proof
knew it

>>724849501
He's making claims that your claims are unrelated, which is double retarded.
>NO PROOF THAT ENGLISH IS A REAL LANGUAGE.

>>724845242
Craigslist

Who is that?

>>724849444
Ad hominem, i've posted links already. You just won't/can't read them.

>>724836136
Hero, fuck the feds I want my privacy.

>>724837668
/thread

>>724849465
No proof you say? Interesting. So maybe Snowden didn't sell anything to Russia but gave it to journalists? Perhaps some working for the Guardian? I wonder if there's proof of that...

>>724849501
Which say nothing about spying, must be hard being this retarded.

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>>724836136
Someone should tweet something to Trump.
I wonder what will he say?

>>724849524
m8 read the thread and my posts and my links. i've posted them multiple times.

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>>724838736
But muh narrative! REEEEEEEEEE

>>724849566
didn't read what I said did you?

Obama should have pardoned him his leaks have only been beneficial to us and have caused no damage. He is the definition of whistleblower.

>>724836571
>muh russians
fuck off cia

>>724849636
>a wikipedia article is proof
kek/10, you're a moron

>>724849501
i've read your links and they're bullshit.

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>>724849636
>Ad hominem
where tho, i don't see the retarded kid attacking your character. hes still retarded but theres no fixing that degree of retardation. 1 less IQ and he prolly gets benefits.

>>724849934
More than that retard, must be hard to read.

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>>724846687

I'm a feminist, so cut his balls off.

>>724846819
Show us where WikiLeaks has dumped on Putin

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>>724850002
>I can't prove anything I'm saying so I resort to personal insults

>>724850061
True, but I've got nothing else to do atm.

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>>724847199

>>724850174
I haven't seen shit about putin, but I haven't seen shit about lots of people. They have sources that give them things, they don't get to decide who will blow whistles only what information they can/cannot leak.

IF someone had been shitting on Putin and they didn't release it that would be something else entirely. Of course it'd all be in cyrillic so none of you niggers would know what it said anyway.

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>>724849703
Okay, I'm not understanding you. Are you claiming that the documents about the spying systems are not about spying? Or are you claiming something else?
>>724849952
So, I would like you know how you quantify bullshit. Are you saying that the NSAs own documents are not real? That the NSAs internal training slideshows and manuals are about systems that don't really exist?

>>724849324
Tuskegee would be a great start. The Wikileak today is another. If they're turning every TV and Cellphone into a microphone and permanent real time tracking system for Americans, then why shouldn't I assume they're reading 4chan, my emails, and checking my poop for proper fiber content just down the sewer line a mile?

After all, our new Commander in Chief has said, our security is more important than our freedom.

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>>724850174

>>724850409
Indications are that WikiLeaks does have damaging info on Putin but never goes after him. Looking at the track record it's clear that Assange plays nice with Russia. It's hiding right their in plain sight.

>>724850825
>Indications are
Prove it or back the fuck up some more.

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>>724836571
Are you actually retarded? What the fuck was he supposed to do? Stay in the US and get executed for treason? Russia is basically the only place you can go if you need to be somewhere where the US can't get you.

Also,
>saw some evidence on Twitter
topkek.

>>724836571

>saw some evidence on Twitter

Trump tweets kek

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>>724836571
>Used to think he was a hero. But saw some evidence on Twitter

>>724836136

I work for the NSA and I can tell you right now that we don't want him to come back and we don't want our russian friends to kill him either.

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>>724852203

Shoot the fucking traitor

>>724852453
I actually work for NSA and Snowden is a cool dude.

>>724852610
At least one of you is lying.

That or there are four NSA operatives in the same thread.

>>724852941
I'm the real NSA operative!

THIS IS THE CHIEF OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE NSA. PLEASE BELIEVE US THAT SNOWDEN IS BAD, AMERICA GOOD. WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

>>724853145
Watching kids for their safety. I knew a subway guy who once did that.
Kek

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

Itt: Amerifats

hero 4 sure, i doubt he'll ever be welcomed back though but im sure he knew that

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

THE HIGHEST OF KEKS

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>>724837668
/thread

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>>724853145
LOL

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>>724839295
>The U.S. doesn't spy on its people it just has the capability to.

>>724853145
WTF?! Bahahaha my sides, holy shit!

>>724836136
i dont really care... so he released some proof of shit that we already knew was happening. big deal. not a hero. not a traitor.

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>>724853145
>THIS IS THE CHIEF OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD OF THE NSA. PLEASE BELIEVE US THAT SNOWDEN IS BAD, AMERICA GOOD. WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

>>724836136
assassinate, EVERY COUNTRY commit or has committed horrible crimes but there's nothing worst than a fucking rat.

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>>724853145
heh

>>724853145
I'm at fucking work you asshole! I'm using this line

>>724844785
That's just it. This info is technically illegal therefore cannot be used in court. They have to find evidence some other way or it can't be acted upon.

But they don't know evidence exists unless it falls into their laps....
So yeah, bit of a Catch22 for the poor old NSA. If they can't at least find and identify possible threats, then they are fucking useless.
If they gather info on people for potential use down the line, they are fucking with people's privacy and are infringing on people's liberty.

Not saying what they do is right, but I'd hate to have that job.

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.
lol

>>724837668
/thread

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Technology makes spying easier for the government but also vastly easier for spies on the inside to acquire.

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>>724853145

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>>724853145
I needed this. Thanks man

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>>724853145
Hahahaha

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>>724853145
I'm using this joke with friends now.

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>>724853145
Never thought of that metaphor.

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>>724836136
hot as fuck nerd,

pardon and fuck him

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.

>>724853145
I hope someone screen shots this with the topic. Keks for ages

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>>724853145
>WE ARE LIKE PEDOS WHO HANG BY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, BUT ONLY WATCH FOR THEIR SAFETY.