How do you as a sociopath feel that sociopaths should be treated, viewed, and/or handled by society, if at all? It's a difficult thing because you can't help it at all of course, but some sociopaths can be problematic
>>724779867 That's probably the stupidest thing I've heard all day. Congratulations moron you just outed yourself as not knowing shit about your own "condition". >https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/02/12/differences-between-a-psychopath-vs-sociopath/ >Psychopath >When a psychopath engages in criminal behavior, they tend to do so in a way that minimizes risk to themselves. They will carefully plan criminal activity to ensure they don’t get caught, having contingency plans in place for every possibility. >Sociopath >When a sociopath engages in criminal behavior, they may do so in an impulsive and largely unplanned manner, with little regard for the risks or consequences of their actions. They may become agitated and angered easily, sometimes resulting in violent outbursts. These kinds of behaviors increase a sociopath’s chances of being apprehended.
>>724780227 Emotions and empathy give the greater humankind a better chance at survival, whereas the lackthereof only gives the individual said benefit. In a utilitarian mindset, and virtually any moralistic system outside of egoism and a few others, emotions and empathy are vital. But nice try being edgy faggot.
>>724780090 By labeling, do you mean revealing one aspect of myself, anonymously online? If so, I am myself already. I just think it's interesting to see what people have to say
>>724780141 Depends on what you think intelligence is. pic related
>>724780218 Antisocial attitudes and behaviour. It's extremely hard to form meaningful relationships and I tend to manipulate people easily. People generally think sociopathy is either "black or white" but that's not really right. It's more of a gradient
>>724780227 You're assuming everyone is the same though.
>>724780335 Emotions are tools that can be used to sway the opinions and perceptions of others. Even people who don't understand or "feel" emotions can be taught to mimic them. Most emotion comes from response to a situation or an interaction with another human. If you can make another human think you're one of them with a little body language, a few cheap words and some face making practice you can blend right in. That's the problem with sociopaths vs. psychopaths. Sociopaths don't care about what happens to them like edgy kids whereas a psychopath knows if they want to indulge their urges they have to remain hidden.
Emotions are unnecessary and for the most part a construct of humans. You can train someone to mimic emotion and you can train someone to stop feeling it.
What is the true evolutionary advantage of emotions? Seems like a step backwards if you ask me. >>724780471 It means you should probably go see a doc and get a real diagnosis. You might just be really good at pattern recognition for a specific desired outcome. >>724780546 We're discussing the 2 types of psychotic disorders. We're not roping these in with normies merely analyzing what we already know about these 2 groups.
>>724780546 now when you say you 'manipulate people easily', is that a passive action that you dont recognize/cant control when youre with someone, or are you constantly aware that youre trying to manipulate people?
all the time. The whole concept of being a 'sociopath' is the ability to emulate feelings normal people feel. If we were not capable of this we could not integrate ourselves into society and have normal lives
>>724780881 Go get it. Just don't use it as a formal diagnosis because it's not. Use it as a baseline and if you're in the upper scores go get a docs opinion. You might be entitled to NEET bucks. >http://personality-testing.info/tests/LSRP.php
>>724781121 If you go to a doctor and get a formal diagnosis of mental handicap IE: psychopathy, schizophrenia, clinical depression, sociopathy, etc. then you are entitled to disability benefits or SSI in the US.
>>724780813 It's kind of like a natural reflex. I am always aware of what I say and what I do and for what reasons. If I make a mistake, sometimes it kinda "slips out of me" and just goes on auto-pilot
>>724780869 I'm not fully self sufficient unfortunately. First of all I'm renting a place to live which makes me dependent on my landlord in a way. I'd say that contempt is what makes me withdraw. I really don't like being around other people most of the time
>>724780884 Boredom mostly, I explained this earlier. It's just interesting to see what people say and think. I won't say what I do for a living, but I can say it's creative. No significant other, never had and probably never will.
>>724780980 You know, it's not impossible that I might be on the autism spectrum at the same time. It doesn't bother me though and I haven't talked to any doctor about it
>>724781134 7 year depression and a doctor telling me I have high sociopathic tendencies, mainly. But also because I fit the description
I also am a sociopath. I love my family and my friends, but i know it intellectualy, dont ask me what i feel, i feel nothing. I dont care about anyone, i'm actually selfish af but i try not to, i try not to hurt people because i still want to make friends and connect.
I see social situations as something to plan, i will be nice to you just in case i need you.
When i was a teen i was very good at seducing, i was very good at this game and i used to watch those girls cry because i wanted them to, i watched myself playing with them and Kek'd when they believed my bullshit and gave me what i wanted. It's the only time i have used someone and been abusive (no violence tho). I try not to do that anymore cause i think it's immature. I want other kinds of fun.
Former high functioning psycopath reporting in. I say former, but when you look at the record, my recent life has been pretty low functioning. Cant hold job, cant keep a place to live. I just cant seem to play by the rules anymore, or even fake it. I just cant seem to function like normal people do.
>>724781393 I dont plan abuse. I'll take advantage of your vulnerabilities and take what i can take from you. I dont want to hurt you, i just want to get what i want and that's it. I dont wanna harm peoples, i just want to get what i want untill you say a sincere no, which calms me down, cause i dont wanna break the limits.
>>724781308 >CAD You an engineer son? Get help anon if you find out you have an actual disorder. Don't be afraid to go into a shrink and tell them the truth. I told my shrink about how I killed my dads dog when I was 9 and blamed it on our neighbor. Took me weeks to plan it but it was worth it. She didn't even blink just asked me questions to get a better picture of what I was going through. Besides if you can get free money then get it.
>>724781219 >7 year depression and a doctor telling me I have high sociopathic tendencies, mainly. But also because I fit the description 6 year major depression and schizophrenia-fag reporting in. I know that feel mate. No hope, no meaning in life, just don't wanna be here anymore. Did you defeat depression?
>>724779268 A "psychopath" is what psychologists call the disorder recognized by psychiatrists as "antisocial personality disorder", and sometimes called "sociopathy". So psychopath and sociopath are two different words for the same thing. That is the research.
Whatever you call it, both sociopathy and psychopathy are characterized by criminal behavior. What criminal behavior do you do?
>>724781651 I don't feel like killing myself every day anymore. But I wouldn't exactly be disappointed if I suddenly were to die (assuming I know this fact before the actual death of course) So I guess it's a step up at least. I'm functioning somewhat normally these days
>>724781669 Yes, and no. Mental disorders like this have alot of underlying factors. It's not like the flu where you either have it or you don't Different combinations of different levels of certain behaviours will of course manifest themselves differently. So not all sociopaths and psychopaths are completely alike There's also a debate wether psychopathy and sociopathy is or should be the same thing. But in the end, they're both just words to define and describe certain types of behaviours
>>724781670 I'm a guy, I don't "identify" as anything particular. I identify as a guy if anything. Don't really care if anyone tells me otherwise
>>724781694 And you simply avoided the question. I guess you 'win'
>>724781669 You left something out of your word for word definition from wikipedia. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy >These conceptions are only partly overlapping and may sometimes be contradictory. This has a better definition because it's from the DSM. >http://www.theravive.com/therapedia/Antisocial-Personality-Disorder-DSM--5-301.7-(F60.2) >APD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) is a DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition), diagnosis assigned to individuals who habitually violate the rights of others without remorse (American Psychiatric Association, 2013). People with Antisocial Personality Disorder may be habitual criminals, or engage in behavior which would be grounds for criminal arrest and prosecution, or they may engage in behaviors which skirt the edges of the law, or manipulate and hurt others in non-criminal ways which are widely regarded as unethical, immoral, irresponsible, or in violation of social norms and expectations. The terms psychopathy or sociopathy are also used, in some contexts synonymously, in others, sociopath is differentiated from a psychopath, in that a sociopathy is rooted in environmental causes, while psychopathy is genetically based.
>>724782128 >chemist >is the money really worth it Hell fucking no. It's worth it if you're someone who truly can't get along in society like myself because then you have to live off of that and a part time job. For someone like you just get therapy and maybe undergo some DBT. If you've got insurance it should be covered for like a couple visits a month or week. You can live a better life with therapy though if you take it seriously, are honest and understand it's not instant magic. It's a lot of work. Many people have to live on this income because their mental condition makes them incompatible with normal society.
>>724782052 the fact that you typed "...win" shows a sense of superiority/need to compete coming from your end the world is bigger than just 'win' fuck you make me cringe you're probably a fucking furry too
in that case, I've answered this question before. Im fine with the way I am, and, for now, so are the people in my life. im very highly functioning, and have convinced everyone in my life that I simply 'feel' things differently than everyone else. Im not sure if i'd be able to accept therapy however though...and well...i'll save the money for people like you. good luck with all that
>>724782181 you are such a colossal faggot.. and possibly watch too much Dexter, Clockwork Orange, Criminal Minds, or you maybe just think that label is cool. I bet you're the kind of faggot that thinks that TIME is linear you know what I'm just going to lurk and see where this goes. I enjoy watching people interact.
>>724782610 /thread I wish people would understand that the number of "high functioning sociopaths" is actually extremely rare. Most of the time sociopathy is life ruining and nothing that anyone would want to have. Its very hard to function like other people when your natural instinct is not to. I fucking hate all of you.
>>724782691 Thanks bro. You can research your condition and it usually is a pretty good method of self therapy. Just fuck around with it a little bit and it will do a lot. >>724782709 Your results on the test. Psychopathy is pretty much the "how much of a dick are you" disorder. If you're really comfortable with being a dick in every way to anyone at any time you're probably a major psychopath. You're just a little above average which means you probably have some dickish tendencies. Like leaving the toilet seat up or drinking the last beer.
Not to say I'm an expert but I studied Psychology for a couple years in college and I can safely say a sociopath would be unlikely to brag about being one. Which is what this looks like. Unless he's just manipulated all you anons like the diabolical genius he presents himself to be.
Fuckin everybody has sociopathic traits. But not everyone is a sociopath
>>724782959 Well, I don't leave the toilet seat up, for sure. I'm a completely neurotic OCD germaphobe.
But, yes... I have been told I drink the last stuff and eat food meant for other people. And my view is that they know I'll probably want it, so why would they only get JUST enough, so I can't even try some?
I was actually really concerned of how accurate everything was. Felt like I was outcasted from everyone else; I always knew I was different but to be branded as a sociopath seemed harsh. I got over it though. But you're right, to understand why I am the way I am is truly empowering. Goes a long way really.
>>724782996 I like to deal in probabilities. How probable is it that an actual high functioning sociopath created a thread on 4chan about him being a high functioning sociopath, and also happens to be a huge fucking faggot. I realize i was baited hard by the obvious bait thread. It had a picture of sherlock. I need to go to bed. Obvious bait was obvious, and still got baited.
>>724783143 >I drink the last stuff and eat food meant for other people. I'm a high functioning psychopath and that's savage as fuck. Respect though. >>724783225 Everyone is different. Some of us are just more anti-social than others. I'm glad you've found strength from knowing something about yourself that's not exactly positive. It means you understand a lot of what other people are going through.
Time isn't even a thing in its own right. Time is the Post-Observation we experience after a Quantum Vector Collapse.
It's just a way we experience things as States change.
I'm not sure what kind of explanation you'd be looking for on the 4th Dimension. It's just another Axis in Dimensional Geometry.
I will look up some of those things.
Tesseracts are a 4-Dimensional Hypercube, otherwise known as a Regular Octachoron. It is also, for reference, my favourite shape.
I vaguely know what the Pleiades is. It's a 7-star constellation, where only 6 are actually generally visible. It is known as the 7 Sisters, has been noted in numerous /x/-level conspiracies, such as the Pleiadian Message, and it is also the symbol used in Subaru's logo, Subaru being a Japanese car company, and 昴 being the Kanji to represent said Constellation.
The Fibonacci thing I know of, to some extent, at least I know what it is. It's that number sequence: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, etc. I made a Fib calculator in MIPS x64 Assembly during a Computer Architecture class. (I fucked up, though, because it was actually supposed to be Triangular Numbers)
okay. I conduct experiments regularly on pure API, recently been tied down to an ICP-MS as im helping out the QC dept. because the regulations are changing with the pharmacopoeia requirements in major regions for heavy metals determinations.
go for it. USP req are changing next year I believe but EP is already moved on. before Heavy metals determination used to be colourimetic ( comparison from a colour ) but now they want to basically bake the samples and shove them in an ICP. I always thought it made more sense,and was less expensive to use an AA because they have them laying around in the QC dept anyways.
>>724784648 As of right now im playing a part to determine whether or not EP pharmacopoeia specifications satisfy our validation requirements when it comes to, does this experiment ACTUALLY work.
>>724784770 Good on you man and people say there's no one of worth on 4chan. How much do you make a year doing that? >anon sits in a lab all day fucking with super space shit, pharmaceuticals and plasma to see if shit works That just sounds so badass.
>>724785007 >50k/y That's very respectable at your age though. I'm around the same age but don't pull down that much. You've got nowhere to go but up my man. >>724785164 >im being shitty Don't worry. Temporary NEET but I was a student, I have worked in fast food before and I'm currently involved in the call center game. If you've ever called Google Play Support between 2012-2014 you probably talked to me at some point. I graduated in 2015 from WSU with a Bachelors of Science in Developmental Psychology.
I'm just between jobs at the moment working on my mental health so I can get back into the workforce. Luckily I live next to an inbound call center and have a great resume. >If you ever called the health insurance marketplace you've probably spoken to me too
No need to be sorry this is an awful place full of miscreants and vagabonds of the internet. I'm sorry if I came off condescending.
not sure if you're part of the whole ASPD crowd, but completely underwhelming. I really think im entitled to more, but probably because I know I can be paid more
>I'm just between jobs at the moment working on my mental health so I can get back into the workforce >I graduated in 2015 from WSU with a Bachelors of Science in Developmental Psychology.
you seem like you'll do just fine. priorities in check, and a solid background to keep up with it. what do you *actually want to get into however? because im not entirely sure how much call centers will contribute towards your major...
> this is an awful place full of miscreants and vagabonds of the internet. I'm sorry if I came off condescending.
man this place is fucked don't even sweat it; half the time I come here I wonder why. I know im not right in the head (hence the whole ASPD thing) but people here never fail to surprise me
>>724785797 >not sure if you're part of the whole ASPD crowd, but completely underwhelming. That's the point my man you have to be that way. That's the way they want you to be. Just like them they want you to blend. So that way when you do something nobody suspects it. >He was always a nice guy >Real normal guy that one >Real friendly too >He did what? >Nah man not him It's really just about how you act and how much control you want. Whether it be money, knowledge, freedom or killing you'll find a way to get control and not get caught. Playing your part is more than it may seem. >I really think im entitled to more, but probably because I know I can be paid more If that's your goal then go for it. Make as much as you can and be a boss ass baller. Technically you're entitled to whatever the fuck you want so your earnings are whatever you really want them to be. You have the power anon and you know you can make more. >what do you *actually want to get into however? I know it's silly but I want to be law enforcement so I can get a good resume so I can join an intelligence agency. I have a dastardly mind that I think I can put to work helping stop potential harms to the country that allows me to exist. Unfortunately due to circumstance I'm temporarily unable to enter law enforcement. > im not entirely sure how much call centers will contribute towards your major... I got the degree as kind of a larf really. More of a younger me fling of passion and.....drinking thing. Once I found out I needed to have a masters to get any kind of work in the field I was out. Also the degree gave me what I needed to know about myself so it helped me develop in many ways.
Originally I'm an electrician by trade. My father taught me growing up and I have that to fall back on later in life.
I'm trying to pool all my opportunities so I can filter through them for what I really want to do. There are many doors but one may not always lead to where you want it to.
>>724779268 really !? me too. yups, sorry only a 'normal' psychopath with F61 category from the ICD-10. anyway, if you want you must see the F64 category from the same list. it's sooooo popular on Tumblr and all the SJW these days. and one more thing OP, you faggot. Do you know what is the difference between Sociopathy and Psychopathy? one hint: no they are not synonymously.
I think you should get through whatever barriers then go for your law enforcement. funny how you label everyone here as a NEET really and you meet the most peculiar people. You ever struggle with any addictions? solely basing this off of your 'drinking thing'
and it seems really black and white of what you want to do, er peach and dark red lol. obviously not being an electrician or a call center tech.
and yea, I guess I have every plan on being filthy rich pretty soon. I have a few ideas
>>724787401 >barriers Meh my medication is only legal in certain states right now. Unfortunately while it's federally criminalized I can't join law enforcement. It's alright though I'm a patient man. >addictions I was an alcoholic for 3 years but now after AA I'm good. I still drink but I'm more responsible. Plus I'm getting up there so I gotta start slowing it down anyways. >peach and dark red I've never heard it put that way. I'm just a complete disarray of all kinds of shit. Life is kind to me and I try to be kind back...at least as much as I can. Still figuring it out but who isn't you know? I plan that if I can never be law enforcement I'll be able to commit to being an electrician. It was good enough for my dad and I'll have the degree he never did so I'll be able to make more. >I'll get a physics degree on the side too just for fun
>I have a few ideas What do you have in mind? If you make a pill that can cure baldness I'll literally not metaphorically suck your dick.
what scripts are you on? we probably manufacture it somewhere in the plant haha
and Im actually just trying to clean myself up right now, been hooked on cocaine for the past year. it really sucks; before I was completely sober and im not sure. just makes you actually feel something, in a really profound way..hard to give up
>peach and dark red
poor representation of the 4chan layout of text and background hahaha. and did you want to be a cop? or a lawyer specifically?
>physics degree I always said if I was smarter I would have went for that. I always had so much fun in physics, just had a hard time with the people.
LOL, unfortunately thats not exactly along the lines. My buddy would be right behind you though ;)
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