Recovery thread >What was your drug of choice? >Were you

>>724719201
Bump, what's your story op?

For me, nothing luckily, but I'm from NH which has the biggest heroin epidemic in the country atm.

>>724719201
31 years on April 1st saved my life

>>724719347
My DOC's were opiates weed and alcohol.
I realized I had a problem when I started to use heroin, but felt miserable every day. I went to rehab for 84 days and now I live in sober living environment. I have 161 days.

>>724719497
Nice! Do you work a program? If so, do you help other addicts/alcoholics in any way?

>>724719836
would like to say yes but not not really. did for a bit but have not been to a meeting in years.

>>724720051
I've heard of plenty of people with decades of sobriety going back out. Does using/drinking ever cross your mind?

>>724719646
Congrats! I self-medicate with weed and have dabbled in LSD, shrooms, DMT, and coke (threw it out while high on acid). Any pointers for how to stay responsible or tell when it is becoming a problem?

>>724720303
Usually it's a problem when you want to stop but can't stay stopped. I used against my will, and couldn't function without some sort of mind-altering substance. People who truely wish to stop but can't can never do it on their own, because willpower has failed.

>>724719201
Cocaine
High
Went back to school. Quit drugs
My beautiful wife and kids
15yrs

>>724720267
ya i have see people go out ya it crosses my mind but just try to think it through

>>724720303
Also, a lot of addicts/alcoholics in the beginning of trying to get clean want to learn how to use/drink responsibly. If you're trying to get sober, contolled drinking/using (i.e. spacing out usage, switching drugs/brands) will fail 100% of the time and you'll be right back to the position you were in prior.

I'm still trying to get sober after 10 years of alcoholism. I have no idea why I still do it.

>>724721089
So nice to see there are people here who have long-term sobriety. It's quite reassuring.

>>724721454
Because you have alcoholism. It never gets better, only worse. If you want to stop, now is the time.

Been using shit for the last 18 years.
Finally kicked opiates roughly 5 years ago, relocated down south for work, and switched to meth.
After kicking years of meth use and roughly a few months of clean time, I heard about ordering RC's online and went to town.
Alcohol + Benzo RC combo was enough to cause a week long black out of completely destroying what little life and security I had left.
I was painting pictures with blood when picked up and brought to the hospital. I have zero memory.
finally decided on treatment, and sober living, and have over 8 months now.
I also firmly believe addiction is a choice and not a disease. It's an easy way out to not have to deal with anything, but it's still a choice.

Alcohol
High or low bottom?
Detox
Being able to remember things again. I couldn't remember conversations I had the night before.
I'm 6 months in.

>>724721668
Yeah I really wish I would stop. At this point I'm just tired of struggling with it. I wish I could move to a dry town or something.

>>724721764
For a lot of people they can't choose to not use, because they are using against their will and simply cannot stop. That's why support from others is vital to recovery, because it can't be done alone.

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>>724719201
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>>724722164
That's where I'm at with it. It's like I'm possessed or something.

>>724722043
You can't run away from it. It will follow there. Trust me, I did the same thing.

>>724721977
>High or low bottom
Did you lose everything due to your usage? Like, rock bottom?

>>724722500
Where did you go? I'd also like to try in patient rehab but I can't afford it.

>>724722312
If you are willing to do whatever it takes to recover, then you are ready. You have to put all the energy into recovery that you did into your alcoholism. It's difficult, but if you want a better life then you gotta do the work.

>>724722500
I see. I was 8k in debt. My girlfriend left me. But I still had a job so was ok. My girlfriend supported me through detox and I have paid my debt off. If I didn't quit I would have lost it all.

>>724720851
I appreciate the feedback. Thank you. It's very easy to tell yourself, "I've got it under control." and even easier to spiral out of control. Again, thank you.

>>724722739
Yep. Isn't it true that AA has a 4 percent success rate though. It all seams kind of grim really.

>>724722717
http://candsrecovery.com

>>724722164
I don't agree with that.
Granted, when I first got clean, I was miserable, completely depressed and had no drive to even get out of bed. All I could think about and all I wanted to do was get high. For months.
But you know what? I CHOSE not to do so, even though every bit of my existence was screaming at me to do it.
I hear this "I can't stop cuz of my disease" thing from a lot of people, and it seems a lot of them simply use it as an excuse to justify their relapse.

>>724719201
Alcohol when I was in the military. Burned too many bridges on it and became extremely reckless and destructive so it wasn't too hard for me to put down honestly, drank about a fifth a night and somehow didn't accidentally kill myself doing it over the span of 4 months, doesn't sound too bad but it was a dark place man. I don't miss it at all.

>>724719201
Mine was benzodiazepines
I don't know what high or low bottom means
I got clean by breaking up with my at the time gf, and doing other drugs to focus on Uni
Realized I was a fuck as I was taking my dogs pain meds
Sat in my room by myself and suffered (no rehab)
4years clean

>>724722887
ya 4% or 5% but still better then drinking your life away.

>>724722879
Absolutely, brother.

>>724722887
It's that low because many people are not honest with themselves, and try and get sneaky with their usage

>>724722932
If that works for you, then more power to you. But like I said, willpower has failed in many people who have a problem with drugs and alcohol.

>>724723345
Or is it because the 12 step thing is actually bullshit? I find AA to be too cult like. I've been to some meetings that actually creeped me out with all the mumbo jumbo and groupthink.

I think i am addicted to 4chan now too. not trying to be funny i just spend way to much time here.

>>724723142
And not dog as in dawg
Dog as in doggo

Any former alcoholics in here ever get sleep paralysis frequently while using? That combined with some of the shit I did while shitfaced kinda has me convinced that i was literally posessed as retarded as it sounds

>>724722979
Sounds like you were more of a heavy drinker then an alcoholic. Then again, you're only an alcoholic when you say you are.

>>724723142
Are you happy or content with where you are at today?

>>724723551
the 12 step thing is BS for some but i have seen it work with my own 2 eyes!

>>724722887
After nearly choking to death on my own vomit
Booz doesn't really sit well with me mentally
One shot and it usually wants to eject immediately

Clean date is 4/16/2006. My dad introduced me to NA after he had gotten clean and sober a few years before I did. His clean date is 5/03/2002. We're both still clean and sober to this day. His sponsor is my grand sponsor but my Pop's not my sponsor. My Dad and I went to the the NA World Convention when it was in San Antonio years back when ZZ Top and George Carlin did the Friday and Saturday night shows.

My best memory... literally saving someones life after she called me sobbing saying she had taken an entire bottle of pills. She still doesn't talk to me after I called an ambulance on her but it's okay. I'll lose a friendship to save a life.

>>724723551
Looks like you have made your mind up. It's not for everyone, but there's are reason it's been around this long and is all over the world. Not trying to sway you in any way.

>>724723748
Well in a way maybe anything can work but perhaps some of us just can't swallow it. I mean have you read the Big Book? Good lord most of it is just incoherent pseudo spiritual babbling. Yet I still think about going to meetings just for the support but I always shy away because of the culty aspect which just kind of repels me.

>>724723668
That's fair to say, kinda just used it as an escape but never felt like I'd die without it.

>>724723882
Thank you for your service. You did something good without expecting anything in return. What a way to get out of self!

>>724723919
I dunno even though I can't stand it I might still go back just to remind myself daily that I need to stop drinking.

>>724721310
Not necessarily. When I realized I was getting drunk alone too often I just decided to only drink socially and so far that's worked out great

>>724724009
yes like i said i will be 31 yeas sober on April 1.. have read is many times. you know you can always find fault if you are looking for fault.

>>724724018
You probably would've felt like that if you had kept going. Good on ya m8

>>724724234
So true. Eventually I realized it was all or nothing. Having just a few drinks made me insane. All I could think about was my next one.

>>724724268
You don't have to look far to find it in that book! I don't like the whole mentality of forcing myself to swallow a bunch of cult mumbo jumbo to get sober. Surely there's a better way!

>>724724423
that fine bro. not trying to sell you just telling you it worked for me. if you can find another solution more power to you!!

>>724724222
>trips get
That's what they are there for. To remind you what you don't want to go back to.

>>724724234
>so far
From what I've learned, this doesn't work. Then again, you don't want to get sober so it seems, just want to drink socially. That's perfectly ok.

>>724723668
I am not happy where I am today

The year after I cleaned up I felt great!
I had gone through a struggle
Lost my virginity
Partied like a monster
Skipped a semester of college
(The one after my dt's)
Made new friends after all of my old ones left me when I started smoking weed (one has been an alcoholic (like his mom) since he was an early teen)
Had my first three way
Got a cool job
Hot gf and went back to school and got good grades till I got sick with mono and tonsillitis

But now I'm 23 and working a shit job because I lost the drive I regained from bouncing back
But now I've regressed and feel like a teenager again
I'm so stuck anon

I'm glad I'm off of drugs (for the most part)
I can use responsibly now
I'm not what I call a dabbler

>>724724171
Oh no I expected something in return. I expected her to be grateful. Never even got a 'thank you'. I'd do it the same way if I had to do it again though. I miss her sometimes but life sucks. Can't dwell on it... just gotta live for today.

>>724721484
I learned so much about adversity, and about victory.
Now when I try I never lose, and I never will

>>724724740
lol ya AA will NOT teach you to drink socially. fuck i wish!

>>724724009
Look for the similarities not the differences. It is worded pretty weird, but it was written in the 1930s.

>>724724607
This.

>>724724607
I was thinking I could always just interpret some of it in my own way. Like for instance I don't believe alcoholism is a disease just that it can feel like one. I'd say it's a psychological condition.

>>724725116
>psychological condition
AKA psychological Disease AKA mental illness

just my opinion

>>724724980
lol. Somehow I don't think people in the 1930s spoke that way. It's not worded weird it's just bombastic, pretentious and flakey.

>>724725287
Yeah that's not a disease in the way something like cancer is though.

>>724724774
Sounds like you might be a dry drunk and need to get out of your head. There are lots of ways to be of service to other people, which will make you feel much better. Just do the next right thing.

>>724724793
An expectation is a premeditated resentment!

>>724725400
why are you comparing it to cancer?

>>724725416
Dry drunk is AA cult speak. It's what they call anyone who manages to get sober without the magical 12 steps.

"And acceptance is the answer to all my problems today. When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing or situation -- some fact of my life -- unacceptable to me, and I can find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing or situation as being exactly the way it is supposed to be at this moment.

"Nothing, absolutely nothing happens in God's world by mistake. Until I could accept my alcoholism, I could not stay sober; unless I accept life completely on life's terms, I cannot be happy. I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes."

>>724725565
not true Dry drunk is something different

>>724725531
Because cancer is a disease. Alcoholism isn't.

>>724725306
If that is your truth, so be it.

>>724725569
this is from the Big Book. and it will change your life if you let it

>>724725672
Then please do enlighten me as to what exactly that is. It sounds like bullshit on stilts to me.

>>724725116
It's a disease of the mind

>>724725706
ok not getting into a bait way. believe what you want

>>724725741
Truth is not relative.

>>724725565
You are definitely allowed to belive whatever you want.

>>724725833
No it's just a fact. Medical science isn't belief. There's no evidence to support alcoholism being an actual disease and forcing yourself to suspend rational thought and swallow that idea is dangerous.

>>724725778
ok when you get sober you change everything. you stop lie and stop fucking people over, cheating, all that stuff. a dry drunk is someone who does not drink but still lies and fucks people over

>>724725569
I have the acceptance prayer laminated and taped onto my wall. Love it!

>>724725836
It's true to you, is it not?

>>724726136
nice.

>>724726070
See that's total bullshit. This notion that everyone who is a drunk is a sociopath. That is Bill W projecting his own issues on to everyone else who drinks.

>>724726227
Oy. Not everything is a matter of belief. That's some flakey thinking. There is a tree outside my door. I don't "believe" it it just is.

6-26-15 is my sobriety date. DOC heroin and meth. But I qualify for many A's. I was a low bottom scumbag. My addiction took me places I never imagined I would be. There were no more lines in the sand to cross. I got sober this last time after waking up so miserable I didn't want to live anymore. I was tired and had no more options. I Burned every bridge I possibly could. The greatest things about recovery for me, is not waking up with the obsession to use. A relationship with a power greater then myself. Having serenity, and a purpose today. The only purpose I knew before getting sober was geting loaded. I'm grateful for life today.

>>724726064
See
>>724726040

>>724726233
no dude your missing the point. you can drink, you can drink a shit load. like every night and no be an alcoholic.

>>724726387
Awesome bro it get s even better!! keep going

>>724726350
That's fine too! It all comes down to you.

>>724726411
And the bullshit increases. Well thanks for reminding me why I can't stand AA.

>>724726590
no problem keep coming back it works if you work it.

>>724726411
So you're only an alcoholic if you drink a shit load and you're a sociopath? That's some convoluted shit right there.

It's not for people who want it, it's not for people who need it, it's for people who work for it!

>>724726387
Yes! Congratulations. A life you never thought possible, right?

>>724725416
I need a better job, a real degree and to move
Moved away for the summer after the year of my addiction and had such a wonderful time I hold it up there as one of my best summers EVER

Also my 2012 was more of my problem than anything else
She was paranoid schizophrenic, generalized anxious, PTSD, add

Anything you could wave an RX pad at
She was feeding me them

God I loved her so much but I'm So glad she's gone

>>724726738
not what i said.

>>724726738
You're an alcoholic when you say you are.

>>724726809
>>724725416

my 2012 gf*

>>724726905
+1 yup

>>724726839
Sure it is. You said a dry drunk is someone who still fucks people over after getting sober. That's neither here nor there. Someone can be a sociopath weather they are a drunk or not. Again that's just Bill W the sociopathic narcissist projecting.

>>724726738
dude. if AA is not for you cool. but if you think you have a problem then try to find something that will help you. life can be really good sober.

>>724727137
I want to. Hard to find anything other than AA though.

>>724727023
ya not playing bait war. if you have a problem with booze of drugs i truly hope you find a solution.

>>724727023
Convincing you of trying to think a certain way about this is not the point. The point is that we know what works for us, and many people around the world. You can take it, or you can leave it. Easy.

>>724727257
You could go to passages. Lol

>>724727257
have you tried NA? or i have been to SA. that a fun crowd

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>>724723142
how did you get hooked on them?

I'll take a xanax or valium if i have a long flight or a particularly bad day, is that danger zone?

>>724727317
If a 4 percent success rate is "many people" then okey dokey.

>>724727484
Yes. It is.

>>724727402
What's that?

>>724727442
If you take something because you don't want to feel a particular feeling, then that can be dangerous, yes. We were meant to feel all feelings as humans. But we've also been using drugs and alcohol for thousands of years, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been a problem.

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>>724727606
Passages Malibu Addiction Treatment Center, known as Passages Malibu, is a for-profit addiction treatment facility located in Malibu, California and founded by Pax and Chris Prentiss in 2001

>>724727606
Very expensive rehab that is not based on the 12 steps.

>>724727842
Yeah those things are silly. Rich people go there, get pampered and usually end up relapsing.

>>724727948
yup its a HUGE business. AA is 100% FREE!!

>>724727948
Yeah, they really cater to a certain demographic

actually an interesting convo on /b/ its been a while.

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>>724727832
I'm not trying to sound like some kind of Superman because those that say they won't get addicted generally do, but with all the drugs I've tried I really enjoy but after it's all over I can take them or leave them. I smoke a little weed every evening and a beer or two on the weekends but its whatever. I was addicted to alcohol for about a year, never thought I'd happen to me but I was placed in an interesting situation.

>>724726070
I never fucked people over
I never stole (except one time I stole one bottle of robitussen)

>>724728098
It's bullshit. I don't think being pampered is the answer. If anything I need a kick in the ass.

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>>724727900
The base cost is $80,000/month for a shared room, going up to $111,000/month for a private room. According to a September 2013 New York Times report, it is "the largest and most expensive" of the many rehab facilities in Malibu.

>>724728178
and i never called you an alcoholic. you are defensive you might want to look at that

>>724728171
Doesn't sound like you are an addict/alcoholic.

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>>724728334
Gucci

>>724728197
Pain is the greatest motivator

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>>724728425
Gewchi

Bad things don’t always happen when I drink but when bad things happen I was usually drunk

>>724728315
No he's just making a point and debunking your convoluted bullshit. You're sanctimonious passive aggressive psycho analyzing of anyone who steps outside of your AA cult think is typical. You are projecting just like Bill W.

>>724727442
I got hooked on them because my ex had them
Full scripts and she stocked them up see >>724726809
did more and more as the relationship progressed
She was purposefully trying to hook me so I wouldn't leave her
Then we broke up and I never took them again
She went to the watershed and I stayed home and suffered in my room

Also I got into a party mode too but I'd say she was the problem

>>724728635
fine. you win. :) hope you find a solution that works for you

>>724728430
Yep. This culture has gotten to sissified. Honestly if I could do things differently in my life I would have joined the army when I was younger. It might have given me some discipline.

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>>724719497
Fucking new guy. January 1st

>>724728804
BOOM nice i get my 31 soon! looks AWESOME!

>>724722932
Choose life, choose a new car, compact disk players, dental insurance, watching the newest shitty TV game shows, chose a career, a family

>>724728756
>joined the army when I was younger. It might have given me some discipline.
I went in the Army with with a drinking problem. I came out of the Army a violent anti-social alcoholic. Don't get me wrong, the Army was a net plus - but all we did was drink and fight.

>>724728804
how old are you Bro?

>>724729106
Well then I guess at least it might have toughened me up a bit.

>>724729169
55, went in the Army when I was 18. Went through police academy at 21, was in Seafield 911 (treatment center for cops) at 24. I fucked my life up hard by 24.

>>724729433
>[
ok so same age will be 55 in Dec.

>>724729276
>Well then I guess at least it might have toughened me up a bit.
Or broken you - not everybody wins in Fight club.

>>724729513
The old grey beards of 4chan and AA.

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>>724729433

what's that Seafield place like?

>>724729668
It was fucked up. Cops only go into treatment when they are trying to beat legal charges. It was a bunch of the angriest most anti-social people imaginable. We are the kind of people who get in fights at AA meetings.

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>>724730171
>Cops only go into treatment when they are trying to beat legal charges


I imagined you'd say something like that. What legal charges were you trying to beat?

>>724730488
I was trying beat a whole bunch of legal charges. When you are a cop living life out of control - you are like a magnet for other cops who are out of control. When one of those cops gets in trouble and and starts talking to internal affairs pretty soon they are looking to charge you with the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby.
Some cops were implicated in the murder to a Bandidos Biker gang member. That set of implications of drug peddling and stolen evidence. I didn't know shit about a murder - but I may have known a lot too much about missing evidence from drug busts. I was facing 10 years but beat the charges.

>>724728804
Shieeeet

Hi, I'm Ryan..I live in Pennsylvania and I love dick so hit me up guys!
412 call 303 me 1452.,.

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>>724731157
damn man. do cops steal dope as often as I know i would?

>>724731239
Personal army request: Denied

>>724731370
kek

>>724731351
In my experience about 20% of cops will steal everything they can get their hands on. 60% will look the other way. The other 20% are boy scouts.

I surf 4chan, usually, when I'm lit. I had 6 months sober longest I've had since I was 13. I just relapsed this month, I absolutely needed this, Fuck, how I absolutely needed this.

"Selfishness - self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt."

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>>724731563
i would definitely steal everything i could get my hands on

you ever "acquire" anything neat?

>>724731678
Perhaps a power greater than yourself has led you to this thread

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>>724720303
I self medicate with weed too. Tried LSD and alcohol too.
I think it becomes a problem when you feel like you need it. Wanting something is fine but once you realize you need it to (fill in the blank for me it was alcohol to numb emotional pain after a bad breakup). That's when it's becoming a problem in my opinion.
It also becomes a problem if you are struggling financially and cant/won't stop.

>>724731863
Does a kilo of cocaine count?

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>>724732498
hell yeah that's neat in my book.

>>724719201
Mephedrone
Love the way it kicks in like a sledgehammer for the first line. Fucked up University from choosing to get high instead of studying, sessions lasted for 4-10 days and time just vanished.

I can stay off it for X amount of time by full throttling the gym, then I'll have one tiny indulgence, and then bam, everything is fucked for about two weeks.

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>>724732910

where u buy that shit? china?

>What was your drug of choice?
Cocaine, somewhere between 14 and 20 grams a week at my peak.
>Were you a high or low bottom?
Depends on how you want to look at it. I didn't actually lose much except money and a fucked up septum. My inciting incident, however, could well have lost me everything.
>How did you get sober?
I stopped using. No program, no counseling, no groups, just cold turkey. It was a matter of will for me.
>What's the best thing about your life in sobriety?
I learned how to manage my impulses. I still drink, but its social.
>How long sober do you have?
Depends on your perspective. I'd say 18 years and change, but some people would say about seven months. I have a ritual: on the anniversary of what made me stop using I go out and buy an eight ball. I dose, I re dose twice, then as I'm coming down I cut the line that I want so badly and I let it sit there. In the morning I trash it and the rest of the bag. Eighteen times, never a fourth line. Its about control for me.

>>724733333
QUINTIN TARANTEEEEENOOOO

I used to yeh, fuck knows these days. The worst is redosing every 5 minutes to just not feel like shit with zero high, just the possible placebo of snorting a line.

>>724733333
You stole my quints!!!!!!!!!!

>>724733367
>cutting the line in half and discarding
Awwww shit. Mad fucking will power, props. I sit here with that line right now - no way I can pull myself off it.

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>>724733960
my second quints ever!!

>>724719201
>>What was your drug of choice?
Whiskey

>>Were you a high or low bottom?
High, totally being in a drunk zone / Balmer curve peak that I drove drunk like a pro making it home in an hour.

Was at that "fuck it" part and even lost a cop. Was expecting anytime for my door beaten down or a morning dragnet to catch me. Didn't happen.

Low, the whiskey dick and lost a girl i really liked over being a bad lay.

>>How did you get sober?
It was as simple as not drinking and not going bars as much.

>>What's the best thing about your life in sobriety?
The sex is a lot better and I last longer.

>>How long sober do you have?
Two days. I relapse a lot.

>>724733367
>I cut the line that I want so badly and I let it sit there. In the morning I trash it and the rest of the bag
Isn't that shit expensive?

>>724734083
If I get close I remind myself that instead of having a nice little private practice in my nice little office to fund my nice little house and nice little wife I could be sharing a cell in prison for the rest of my life for nearly killing a cop.

We make choices, sometimes they're hard.

>>724734410
Thats relative. It was hard in graduate school. Its not so hard now. Thats not the point, though. The point is that I refuse to allow it to have power over me.

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>>724734450
i killed a chicken one time. me and my nice little family had it for dinner.

>>724732910
Drug newfag here - How/where do you buy?

and how do you know that the drug won't just kill you when you take it?

>>724719201
just curious are any of you ex-druggies fucked up in the head?
do you think differently after doing a bunch of drugs and becoming sober? any side effects?
personally ive only drank, just wondering, and no i dont want to get into drugs in just curious

I would put copious amounts of anything from Listerine to cocaine in my body to achieve an altered state of mind. Went to rehab for 7 months. I live in a halfway house now. I will have 9 months in 2 days.

>>724734873
Why were you trying to kill yourself?

>>724734662
Because dealers don't kill their clients, but, might get caught unlucky one day and get something completely different.

>where do you get it
Lol. Yeh here's her number...

>>724734856
You realize that alcohol is a drug right? ETOH - it's actually a very toxic drug compared to something like THC.

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>>724734967
I wanted to meet Jesus. He is my Lord and Saviour after all.

>>724719497
>>724728804
Are these for booze or hard drugs?

>>724735137
You may have wound up meeting satan.

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>>724735121
Alcohol is not a drug.
-Cops

>>724734856
Yeh after stimming the fuck out of my brain for days, my mind feels 'fresh', and unclouded, then a few days/weeks go by and everything becomes chaotic, and I blast it again.

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>>724735249
No, I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour

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>>724735194
That's an AA coin.

>>724735058
I mean if you didn't know a dealer. if you want to buy you walk up to a shady guy and say "Hey do you sell x."

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>>724735121
thats an opinion though there isnt a lot of research on thc. they say new stuff about it all the time
when i think of a stoner the first thing that comes to my mind isnt intelligence so thats just not something i would get into

>>724735837
Google 'drug harm chart' and get woke.

>>724719201
You know what I fucking hate? How a useless fucking drug like alcohol is legal but useful painkilllers are illegal. People suffer from pain all the time, and they make them take NSAIDs which kill your heart. 50% of the fucking medical system is based on the fact that we have to go fucking doctor shopping to get pain medicine.. at the "doctor's relationship". And DOCTORSmilk patients for their insurance money "oh come back next time" Fuck them, Fuck the DEA

>>724722500
>You can't run away from it. It will follow there.
Absolutely true. Known as the "geographical cure."

>>724735739
Quick way to getting robbed, and kek shady guy - I used to get it off a female law student. Everyone knows someone who knows someone.

>>724734378
Keep coming back brother

>>724734873
Congrats bro. Proud of ya

i musta had one too many blunts today

>>724736042
you can say its safe all you want but do your own research too
in highschool the stoners always skipped class and never turned in homework
now that ive been graduated for a long time, i know all of them are doing nothing with their lives still and they are still retarded like i remember them. this is why i never jumped on the smoke weed errrday bandwagon
you can sit and stare at a chart all day and say its safe and good for you but look at the bigger picture

>>724722887
>success rate
I run a residential home for men in early recovery and get this question occasionally. The problem is, how do you define success? A day, month, year? Life?

I watch men who take this sober work with them and they never forget it. They often come back to talk about how much better their lives are. Did they all stay sober from the day they left? Nope. But they always had the knowledge that life can be better.

So if you had my job, it wouldn't look so grim.

>>724729513
>>724729635
Damn you two are the oldest people I've encountered on /b/ I think

May the force be with you both

>>724719201
Methamphetamine
No idea what you mean by this but uppers are my thing
Shit got out of hand so I stopped spinning
I'm sober from shit but I am an alcoholic now
No days sober

>>724736612
Except for me, 56 yr. old AA here.

>>724719201
Cocaine.
Cold turkey.
Sober for 3 years last month.

>>724726233
>everyone who is a drunk is a sociopath
Wilson never said that

I used to be addicted heavily to GDGP

>>724736493
>you can say its safe all you want but do your own research too
What I actually said:
>ETOH - it's actually a very toxic drug compared to something like THC
That's very different than saying that THC is safe. Are you aware that alcohol is involved in almost 90% of domestic violence incidents? Drunk driving deaths, homicides. Alcohol is a fucking scourge - that was my point.

>>724719201
Tramdol must be made legal

>>724737601
Shit opiate. Get a real addiction faggot

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>>724737601
Tramadol is absolutely shit tier. I think it's a waste of time, but if you like it that much then knock yourself out.

>>724736729
Ayy blessings upon you all

Keep it up

>>724737686
>>724737754
for medicinal use. not for rec use.

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Weed Roxy K8 xan got sober when brother killed himself not really a choice going to go down same path probably

>>724719201
Pot was the drug of choice. I felt more spiritual and a higher energy. Basically I liked myself more. I then did shrooms once and LSD which put me over the top. I had a psychotic break, stayed up for 5 days, thought i was the pope, broke up with my girlfriend, was hospitalized and was diagnosed with schizo affective disorder. I was sober after that experience for 6 months then went back to pot. Used it for another 2 years not I am on a sober break for this full year just to prove to myself that I can. I has been 3 months so far. The best part about being sober is that now i am in a position to help out other people who may have gone through a similar experience. I teach peer to peer courses for people with mental illness. I is good to help people out.

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>>724737764
Thank you and to you

>>724738014
It's legal if it's precribed to you...

>>724719201
>Cocaine, Marijuana
>Medium bottom
>I went to AA
>Best thing about my life in sobriety is not having the compulsion to do drugs all the time
>8 years, thank God

>Opiate painkillers
>Low was pulled over nodding in the driver's seat of my parent's car like a fucking loser
>NA
>Freedom from having to get drugs and spend all my money and time on it
>5 years March 13

Feels John Goodman

>>724738091
>>724738393
>>724738613
>Proof that it works

>>724738613
Awesome!

Alcoholic. Keep trying to cut back but keep getting drunk. Live in drunkest town in WI. All my friends drink daily. Recently found out my liver enzyme (GGT) is 304U/L. Normal range is 15-83U/L. I'm too old for this shit (37). Need to quit if I want to see my kids grow up. Have good job never miss work but alcohol killing me health wise. Just love the alcoholic buzz for whatever reason. Going on vacation to Key West in a day, when I get back going to try and get sober. Too embarrassed o attend any sort of rehab but I'm pretty sure I need professional help.

Crack cocaine.
Low, very, very low.
My 17-year old brother and I (I was 16) were doing lines with a bunch of niggers, and my brother overdosed. He got consent to live on his own and take me with him, away from our birth parents, because their alcohol addiction made them abusive and unable to do anything. He OD'd and because my parents were declared unfit by a judge, I spent two years in a foster home where I couldn't get a hold of anything.
Then, once I was no longer a ward of the state, I got back on the same shit amd got caught with a bunch of niggers. I got 10 years of prison time at 18 years old. I'm 31 now, been out of prison for 6 years because of good behavior. Never touching drugs again for as long as I live.

>>724738988
Agreed.
Anybody who is tired of drinking or using drugs but can't seem to stop, should try going to AA or NA, etc.

I am cynical shithead with no time for any bullshit just like you, but I assure you, the people there know how to help.

>>724739306
That embarrassment is your ego. You need to man up and take care of it, or it will kill you.

>724719201
>What was your drug of choice?
MDMA, Coke
>Were you a high or low bottom?
I crashed heavily and lost my mind
>How did you get sober?
Same way I got my parents off heroin when I was 8. Locked myself in my house, rode out the hell
>What's the best thing about your life in sobriety?
I met an amazing partner
>How long sober do you have?
Just over a year.

>>724739306
>drunkest town in WI
lol

Don't be embarrassed...go to an AA meeting. Everybody there will listen to you and be like, "Uh huh, yep. You've got what we've got."

>>724739573
Good for you...keep it up!

>>724739306
How bad does it have to get?

>>724739825
Thanks. I don't even want it anymore.

I smoke weed to relax, which my partner is fine with. He's told me that he would rather I didn't do class A's but couldn't stop me if I wanted to, but I haven't felt the urge since meeting him.