why does it even matter anymore.
we try to fight it but we wont win.
the people who work in the CIA cant be voted out.
we protested online and on the streets but we have nothing to show for it
Snowden risked his neck for the info he released on NSA and we tried to change things but people just move on to the next thing and forget.
were fighting a pointless war just like the DEA is fighting the war on drugs
i quit trying to stand up and fight this shit.
im going to sleep and forget about this when i wake.
false, 4 at 4chan started it
Like its such a stretch
>Podesta emails hacked by Russians, leaked on wiki leaks, supporting the pro-Russia cnadidate
>Julian Assange has show on RT Radio, Russian state radio
>Wikileaks is supposed to be anti-secrecy, but never leaks shit on China, Russia or any of the most secretive, most corrupt nations
>In a statement accompanying the document realease, Wikileaks alleges
"I swear, I don't have any times to the Russians"
At the end of the day, most modern phones have Pathetic security, if both phones are compromised, then encryption doesn't matter, because you can just pull the encryption key from the phone.
Pointing out the quote of Donny Jr regarding "money pouring in from Russia" into their real estate deals.
And if you actually do your research on Trump, he was indeed in deep financial shit in the early 00s
>see one candidate will definintely be tough with you
>see other candidate friendly towards you, flatters you constantly -literally asked if Putin would "my new best friend" on Twitter
that whole "build a strong military" is just a meme he's using to sell himself to the conservative segment. people should know by now, that what a politician says, and what he actually does are 2 different things.
yes indeed. But my true fetish is when I am presented evidence that Trump has gotten into business with the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. You should see the ropes I shoot after reading that shit
There were over 8,000 documents released in this latest dump. It will take time for people to comb through all of them. Maybe you'll be surprised as to what turns up on Donnie.
Or Russian mobsters and oligarchs
You will never truly forget. I had your reaction when I saw the liberals and conservatives on TV glossing over Bush's horrendous crimes in Iraq and Afganistan this week when he was promoting his 'art'.
We who remember and are burdened with the facts and care, must stay vigilant for our lifetimes, we need to keep the information from being ignored by our friends and relatives. We need to keep the truth alive, in the streets, in our daily life, whenever a false idea comes up.
OMG IT'S HAPPENING!
THE CIA EMPLOYS SPIES!
THAT SPY ON PEOPLE!
OUR SPY AGENCY HAS THE TOOLS TO SPY
TO SPY ON PEOPLE
WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT
THE STORY IS NOT HOW MUCH DID TRUMP KNOW ABOUT THE 5 PEOPLE IN HIS CAMPAIGN TEAM WHO HAVE NOW ADMITTED THAT THEY HAD DIRECT CONTACT WITH RUSSIAN DIPLOMAT SERGEY KISLYAK
INCLUDING HIS SON IN LAW
THE REAL STORY IS THIS:
THE CIA SPIES ON PEOPLE
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wikileanks never pushed that, you fucking idiot. They simply released emails.
Kill yourself, you retarded cunt.
If I release photos of your mom fucking some guy in a car, then some random cunt comes along and says your mother is a whore, does that mean I said your mother is a whore?
BTW your mother is a whore.
Well the Clintons have a rather large body count, so it's understandable.
This thread reeks of stale cat piss, and dirty pant suits. Are there no other jobs out there for the Obama faithful other than Troll and Shill?
What, have you seen his tax returns?
yes, actually, the financial times is a very serious news organization
Not the guy you replied to, but I'll take the word of our intelligence agencies as well as President Trump on that one.
>wants me to click link from CIA
most of of that is circumstantial bullshit but alright.
Let's go with that narrative: Clinton is a cold blooded Murderer.
I am happy with that. I want a ruthless president willing to get shit done, no matter who stands in their way, rather than the weak ineffectual figurehead with business ties to russia that he for some ungodly reasons tries to hide, yet we have known about for years. How do we know? He and his son have both told us that he has business in russia.
I mean, we can't tell exactly how much money he receives from russia because the dumb fucker won't release his tax returns
And look, before the red jizz descends over your eyes and you start calling me a shill, hear me out:
Donald Trump, of all people, should know how important it is to show people something that they are demanding, in order to stem the paranoid conspiracy flow.
Obama's birth certificate.
How long did Donald Trump clamour for that birth certificate? And because Obama wrote it off as crazy and put off showing it, that escalated into OBUMMER WAS A KENYAN MUSLIM TERRORIST WHO STARTED ISIS
Now, Trump was instrumental in this campaign. So Trump should know how important it is to disclose information lest people jump on the TRUMP WONT RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS HE IS IN LEAGUE WITH RUSSIA AND HAS HOOKERS PISS ON BEDS HAHAHA train.
Stupid fucking man. All he needed to do was release his tax returns on day one and then there would eb no specualtion.
Because after all, what has he got to hide?
The fact he's not paid federal income tax? We all know this.
The fact that he is not as rich as he claims he is? We all know that.
That he has money coming in from russia? Well....
We don't know that yet, do we?
(Oh yeah we do. His son told us)
So what is he hiding?
>Trump is so weak....
That's funny, then why all of the shilling and cry fests?
>still can't get over the fact my shitty candidate didn't win.
Isn't there an actual sport you could be following? Something black and white that you can put your ignorant, ham-fisted opinions in to rather than politics?
Because damn, son; you Clinton supporters need to calm down.
Of course Trump is weak. He is hugely disliked within his own party and across the aisle. Most of the senior GOP's see him as a puppet. A tool to be used to pass their legislation.
Then there is the fact that he does not have the intelligence community behind him. A man groping in the darkness is not my idea of a strongman.
He is without strong allies. Instead he is relying on political outsiders, also hugely unpopular, such as Bannon or inexperienced sycophants such as Miller.
He is spending every weekend away from the white house. He does not even enjoy the support of his own wife, who lives in New York.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Trump. I understand that there are political forces out there gunning for him, and I understand why.
You do not make an enemy of the intelligence services.
You do not make an enemy of the free press.
These are rookie fucking mistakes and I really do feel sorry for the Trump.
Deep down, maybe he didn't do it for his own vanity and prestige. Maybe he really wanted to make america better.
But washington will chew him up and spit him out if he keeps on just blundering around like some unhinged fucking loon.
Come on Donald, just release your tax returns, condemn russian aggression, sack bannon and then you can sit back and let the GOP deregulate everything not currently nailed down. Then you can go play some golf.
Now is not the time to have twitter rants at 5:am over what you read on fucking breitbart.
He started with your assertion being true, then expanded on it for the sake of argument. The fact that you replied with another off-point answer, leaving his question unanswered, only reinforces the idea that you're a moron.
But we already knew that anon :(
But I'll help you feel like your life isn't pure shit by giving you a reply.
To which he's still in.
Lots of his "companies" are one offs proportion to serve a single fleeting purpose, that which if they did fail, he'd write off 100% of.
More or less, he did the opposite of conglomerate because laws are super fucking lax that way.
tl;dr, he's smart at failing
Not that guy, but not a Hillary supporter...was a Johnson supporter. I wouldve railed just as hard about Hillarys corruption had she won. Seems Trumps corruption is much worse tho.
ah bringing up Clinton again?
Well my friend, I was surprised to see her lose but Clinton was not my candidate. I supported Sanders because I thought he would look hilarious when he held speeches. I mean, Trump is also pretty funny to watch but I would prefer a president who actually knew something about politics.
Anyways, so answer me this jimmy my boy:
What has Trump got to hide?
Why didn't he learn his lesson from the birth certificate malarky?
No they didn't, that's just stupid reporters writing clickbait. It was leaked that the CIA had remote exploits for android and iOS, which means they can take over the phone and read the messages from it.
she wasnt your candidate but this guy is
>hugely disliked within his own party
echo chamber b.s. only a couple people don't care for him like graham and mccain
>and across the aisle
well no shit, they lost and are throwing tantrums almost a full 4 months later. quite pathetic really.
>bla bla bla more lies that the msm propagates.
>enemy of the free press
CNN, NY Times, Time Magazine, Wash Po are all extremely unhinged left-wing propaganda outlets. He has never gone against the more neutral press, only bitch slapped CNN around for their outright lies which are so blatant at this point that they don't even seem to care anymore about hiding them.
the fix was in, and hillary lost. holy fuck, how could that be? that is the thing that gets the liberal elites, butthurt the most. "it was hers", "she deserved it". they are so out-of-touch that they lost track of real working americans, who is exactly who trump appealed to.
liberals are so butthurt that a "white male" won the presidency, because in their minds slavery was such a horrific crime, that no white man should ever be successful again. that may sound over the top, but actions speak louder than words, and this is exactly how they behave. they say it too, just not that straightforward.
but medicAID I think you mean is funded out of the regular US budget while SS is funded through its own trust fund. Besides, Obama came up with new taxes to pay for medicaid expansion, mostly the increased capital gains tax on the rich (which is about to be repealed).
>get over it
Is that all you have to say? We have a president right now who is deliberately destroying everything he needs to get anything done in the comming years. And all you have to say for it is ''he won''?
That was 4 months ago, start dealing with the present, faggot.
You obviously dont know how healthcare works
Triggered Republican is Triggered
But they do spy on us, that's a pretty big deal. If I turn my fucking TV off and it's not even really off, it's just recording the audio in the room and sending it to the CIA, I would certainly like to know that.
>echo chamber b.s. only a couple people don't care for him like graham and mccain
Alright mr political insider. Let's say that you are right, everyone in congress and the white house loves the Trump. Answer me this: Why are we seeing so many leaks?
>bla bla bla more lies that the msm propagates.
What is lies? That Bannon writes his policy? That he plays golf? Again, you are the political insider apparantly. I'm sure Donald Trump rules with an iron fist. Anser me tis then jimmy my boy: How come Trump himself did not know that he had given Bannon a seat on the National Security Seat? Furthermore, what else did I write that was lies and msm propganda? I am asking for a friend.
>NN, NY Times, Time Magazine, Wash Po are all extremely unhinged left-wing propaganda outlets...
Maybe they are. But they still have to follow journalistic codes of ethics. Breitbart and infowards doesn't. Where do you think that Trump gets his news? Oh yeah, Fox and friends. Well, I am glad he gets a balanced diet of REAL NEWS delivered straight and without the political spin. Bannon must be proud.
>the fix was in, and hillary lost. holy fuck, how could that be? that is the thing that gets the liberal elites, butthurt the most. "it was hers", "she deserved it". they are so out-of-touch that they lost track of real working americans, who is exactly who trump appealed to.
I am not denying any of this. I just want to know why Trump won't release hsi tax returns.
>liberals are so butthurt that a "white male" won the presidency
They are butthurt that an orange shitstain won the presidency but let's not squabble about semantics. Liberals are upset that the GOP is back in power and they are using a washed out reality tv star as a smokescreen whilst they dismantle environmental and financial regualtions for fun and profit.
>because in their minds slavery was such a horrific crime, that no white man should ever be successful again...
and you accuse me of spouting retarded shit?
They have the capability to do that, it seems. But they would need a FISA warrant to do that and you would have to be associated with terrorists or foreign intelligence for that to happen. This is literally our toolbox to fight terrorism that got leaked, just fyi
me too. I don't want to think i've been masturbating on the sofa for nothing
THE NSA NEEDS TO KNOW I HAVE A GIGANTIC FUCKING DONG
Of course, they are allowed to monmitor all my e-mails, including hte ones I send to my nan, so they already know my dong is fucking huge
>Alright mr political insider. Let's say that you are right, everyone in congress and the white house loves the Trump. Answer me this: Why are we seeing so many leaks?
Didn't say LOVE, but they also aren't dead-set against him as you said.
The leaks are coming from Obama appointees. The Democrats in the senate still haven't confirmed a good portion of Trump's cabinet. How many presidents before Trump had to wait this long to get their cabinet picks approved? Obama got his immediately, the GOP didn't play politics like the Dems are. Out of one side of their mouth they block everything, just because they don't like him, out of the other they bitch about him not getting anything done.
>How many presidents before Trump had to wait this long to get their cabinet picks approved? Obama got his immediately
That's because Obama picked good people. Trump picked nothing but corporate climate denying hacks dipwad.
>CNN, NY Times, Time Magazine, Wash Po are all extremely unhinged left-wing propaganda outlets
>b-but muh media bias maymay...
So facts you don't like are bias. Got it!
Jesus I hope youre being ironic.. If not you need to go get a beer and think about your life. Like tonight.
No one cares. We were all a bit shocked and creeped out (and not surprised) when we found out the government was watching us. Now were used to the idea because we realised if were too scared to text our dicks because some dude we'll never meet is looking at it, we also don't get nudes in return.
No one cares, and no one will care until there are tangible consequences, like it becoming illegal to critisize the government or some shit.
Right, so let's find some common ground: They don't love the Trump, but they are not going to cry tears should he accidentally trip over his giant golden cock and break his neck on some golftrip.
The point is that he lacks political allies, which is why he is having to rely on cretins such as sessions and carsons. There are much stronger factions in the GOP that the president is not a part of, and they are the ones sharpening their knives, not "muh disgrunteld obama lackeys".
Saying that, there are democrats sharpenign their knives.
And former obama lackeys.
Some of them, as you point out, are even taking a few practise jabs.
This is why I say that the president is weak. He rode in on power on a wave of mutilation, attacking everyone in the senior gop leadership. He said that the Zodiac killer's dad killed JFK for christ sake.
He employed a slash and burn tactic to get himself into power and he is vain enough to think that the people who's shoes he publicly pissed all over are genuine when they say that they endorse and support him.
They are fucking politicians. They are not his friends.
His frineds are yes-men, sycophants and manipulative ex-goldman sachs bastards.
He is alone and this is why he flees to Mar a Lago every weekend.
Anyways, enough about that, back to the main question:
Why isn't he releasing his tax returns?
What has he got to hide?
>So facts you don't like are bias. Got it!
You do realize that works both ways don't you? Replace those news outlets with right-wing ones, and your point doesn't change, and is still false. Bias does exist, and everyone puts his or her own bias on things when they tell them or relay them. To think that only the other side does it makes you a useful idiot.
They didnt push pizza gate.. They released podestas emails that contained code possibly referring to human trafficking strings in restaurants.
Pizza gate became a conspiracy theory that rose from that and has been debunked a thousand times over.
well good news jimmy, she isn't a murderer. I was agreeing with his retarded conspiracy theory so that I could get tot he bottom of things that actually matter:
Why isn't trump releasing his tax returns?
What does he have to hide?
Why is he hiding in florida every weekend?
Why odesn't his wife want to live with him?
All real questions, all of them more relevant than WHERE WAS CLINTON THE NIGHT HER DOG'S CHIOPRACTOR'S SON GOT HIT BY THAT CAR? MUUUUURDERERRRR!
But seriously, I am happy if Trump just released his tax returns so we can lay to rest any rumours that russian oligarchs are heavily invested in his businesses
Time to flush this turd of a thread down the toilet.
Hourly reminder that the CIA leak proved the existence of CIA bronies
read the wikileaks summary, and stopped reading at "the Obama administration directed". fake af, and a misdirection from assange, who has been doing major shilling for the russians for the past year. credibility gone.
It is a bit more complicated. Remote code execution is not enough, one have to get the root in order to get out of app's sandbox. But yes, once you rooted the phone you could read anything inside another app sandbox and user's input.
You forgot to mention John Podesta's pizza-related handkerchief map.
>click all squares with "a house".
>shows picture of a fucking barn
>i click "skip"
>Google responds: "Incorrect"
I like the fact that no pedophile has come out and said, "but that's bollocks, and I would know. I fuck children"
Still, I will come out and say it:
the pizza map is bollocks, and I would know
I fuck children
>wikileaks is a front for Russian Intelligence
Most "hacking" incidents originate from the East, since cyber security is a bit of a joke over there, and the prevention is not exactly as effective as the FBI van over here. It has got shit to do with the russian government, or russian interests. Wikileaks has ties in Russia and thereabouts, because the "hackers" work there without too much of a hassle. You faggots could learn a thing or two about information security and what you call "hacking" in general, but you choose to be ignorant as fuck and subscribe to retarded conspiracy theories.
I have no point I'm selling beyond this, aside from you being fucking idiots.
That's not the story.
The story is that the CIA's spies are leaking, and the thing that has leaked is the ability to be a spy. We effectively now have CIA-level spies that have all the abilities of the CIA but without having to answer to any responsible organization or even the CIA.
let the normies think what they want... we have the fucking know-how and that is enough
Actually im suprised we "as a colective" havent fucked the world and it's internet even more in the past years...
yeah, that sounds better than Russia Puts up Smokescreen to Divert Attention from Trump's Russian Connections by Releasing Statement with little Actual Information but Plenty of Specualtion, Muddying Discourse on Mongolian Trap Farming Website for the Benefit of Noone except Shills and Retards
>suprised we "as a colective" havent fucked the world and it's internet
/b/ tried DDOS attack on the seven primary servers for the whole interbutts a few years ago. Considering how many of them they shut down, it probably would have fully worked if a bunch of them hadn't been trying to DDOS through a proxy (which meant they were just DDOS their proxy server and not the intended target).
exactly my point!!
BTW "social engineering" is just a mask to say, "look i can trick people by lying"... still impressive to see at the hackatons thou, really interesting stuff
This is true. The threads were mostly "HOW DO I SHOT LOW ORBIT ION CANNON?"
But still, as the saying goes, "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups". We're lucky that enough of them were DDOSing their own proxies or they'd have actually brought the whole worldwide web down.
>they'd have actually brought the whole worldwide web down.
were it so easy...
Then again... remenbering the freaking DDOS at Dyn Servers just a few months back....
>"look i can trick people by lying"
I mean, given most of us are not full blown retards but ARE a bit autistic, it's basically our way of saying "hacking people's behaviour".
By the way, who the fuck are "we as a collective"? I don't even know anymore. Most shit I see here are trump or trap threads, and I rarely "meet" anyone on here from said "collective" anymore. Unless they are the ones fapping to traps all day.
been lurking around for 7 years now, rarely post anything... yes yes most of the oldfags are gone... at least that is what you think...
They are around... they just dont post as much shit as back in the good 'old days
BTW, lets be real here, 4chan was always composed of:
40% oldfags, shitfags, traps, attention whores, bla bla
10% sript kiddies
1% moot... the REAL moot
Oh don't forget the moralfags who slowly turned into SJWs. God forbid we don't acknowledge THEM.
But yeah, I see your point. I guess I should just sleep it off, I usually don't complain about this shit.
weird, if they paid me I wouldnt be broke
you're blowing smoke up your ass, nobody gives a fuck about 4chan anymore. It's a website for 12 year olds and sad oldfags.
*sigh* unfortunally yes... thou i have to say... being into computers, I dont understand why half the hackers and programmers havent fucked EVERYTHING UP by now, just for the lulz
human rights violations, war against the press, anti-gay, arguably warmongering, kgb, nuke capabilities, the cold war ended only 26 years ago, reluctance to work in accord with other countries, leader is former kgb. You must not understand diplomacy very well.
Just because it's being used as a smokescreen doesn't mean it should be ignored stupid. Do you not have the fucking attention span to pay attention to 2 stories at once? Or are you worried that Obama is as tied up in shit fuckery as everybody else who are supposed to be "in charge"?
>human rights violations
lol guantanamo bay isn't a US territory so the Bill Of Rights doesn't apply
>war against the press
lol bathroom bill
lol iraq, syria, etc, etc
we invented that (with Austrian know-how)
>leader is former kgb
George Bush III (Reagan's VP, then President, and Dubya's father) was former CIA director
You must not understand America very well.
Many states balked at the expansion of Medicaid but accepted individual and corporate mandate. This made people who were unable to afford hc have to pay even though they already could not afford hc. Corporate mandate caused companies to shift full time employees to part time to avoid being liable for their hc, inflating the job market with part time jobs you could neither get hc from nor afford hc with.
>Liberals will defend this
so have any of you found copies of the key codes?
probably not, they have been to busy in fighting, that why release info, to make us look somewhere else while something bigger goes on
>remote control medical devices
KEK JUST GONNA REMOTE CONTROL A HYPODERMIC SYRINGE
Even if they are listening, how many men have to listen through how many hours of utter shite.
Literally none. They'd just search for relevant information using keywords. Don't be a retard.
You should be more worried about how Hillary Clinton has a net worth of $150 million through "speaking fees." Political finance reform, term limits, fucking anything necessary to clean out congress. That's tangible change
Yeh no shit, but just video games alone would produce so many false flags. Am I supposed to believe they would put that much money and effort into monitoring 300m (US pop?) peoples boring ass lives. I will agree on certain people in certain jobs, and having their family and friends being snooped on, but everyone? For what crimes? Just why?
Well obviously they aren't listening to EVERYONE, that would be absurdly resource-intensive. The issue is that they can listen to ANYONE, anytime, and basically all those paranoid foil-hat types who've been blabbering about the government being able to spy on you through your coffee machine are actually being proven correct.
wait WAIT GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT THI LEADING UP TO IF YOU FIGURE IT OUT?
And many others (just google "assange russia").
No, you are the shills.
they could be giving us old software to distract us
oh the feels... lol
but anyway, A.I cant do that yet
When you watch person of interest once
Best show on netflix, all about ai and government surveillance
yea but that's T.V don't tell me you believe everything on T.V
The CIA don't just spy... according to the leak, they drop breadcrumbs in the style of other countries. To divert blame.
This may mean the CIA has been conducting covert ops against itself and pretending to be another country
This has massive implication.
The CIA may have been self generating operations and draining treasury funds for decades
Just message your friends about bombs and shit for a couple weeks and see if you get found out.
this will see if they are monitoring cunts.
problem solved it was just a prank bro.
probably rip your lives also though.
enjoy juantanamo bay my cuz.
did you just say that a spy agency did spy things?
>This may mean
>This has massive implication.
>The CIA may have been
that is a whole lot of implying.
maybe...just maybe the US spy agency used Russian words in their hacking tools to create doubt.....or THEY HACKED THEIR OWN FBI/NSA/CIA SERVERS TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY AND POWER!!!!!!
these are the tools of the shill, and his plastic cocksure attitude is his mark
do not fall for his machinations or lend attention to his antiques anon
No, you said a bunch of wild guesses.
facts: CIA tried to hide their tracks by styling their malware as another country (using VPN's from Russia/China, using Russian/Chinese slang in their hacking tools...etc)
what i say:
US spy agency is trying to hide their online tracks
what you said:
CIA has been conducting covert ops against itself and pretending to be another country, self generating operations and draining treasury funds for decades.
>This may mean the CIA has been conducting covert ops against itself and pretending to be another country
>This may mean the CIA has been conducting covert ops against itself
>This may mean the CIA
>This may mean
There are so many shills in this thread holy fuck. I thought the CPUSA was an FBI fan club but this shit has thrown me for a loop. You retards need to get off Trump and Shillary's respective nips and realize that they're all the enemy here. How the fuck can whine about Putin and ignore the dystopic shit our deep state is doing?
shit sorry, I meant , "my nerdy aunt Stephanie"
>we protested online and on the streets but we have nothing to show for it
when did /b/ become antifa commie faggots? this use to be a board for general chaos, now its full of sjw faggots
>i blame OWS
The malware targets and intercepts the messages as they are typed, therefore taking the messages before they get run through the encryption.
Actually read what WikiLeaks publishes. Faggots
People shouldn't rely on another person to change things; having Obama as President for 8 years should have taught us that.
Do you see your closet? Go in there, sit on the floor, shut the closet door, and close your eyes.
Eventually you'll wake up.