Why are men these days on average not getting laid as much

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Cause glancing at a women is rape now.

No, friend, it's just you and the other fat neckbeards

>>724427839
>men are "too" gay!
>men "aren't" getting laid enough!

>>724428311
Depends how liberal and desperate for money/drama/persecution points she is

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>>724427839
I'd say men want to have sex these days just as much as they did back in the day.

If you want to find out why men aren't having sex, you shouldn't be looking at men for an answer.

>>724428311
this and
>>724428790
this
basically, could explain it further what I'v experienced with this generation of women but that would take would take so much time too.

>>724427839
video games.

Women have too high of standards plus the cost/reward benefits of dating a woman is highly unbalanced for men

>>724430708
so how do we shift the dynamic?

>>724427839
Serious answer: pretty much all women can get laid, unless they are spectacularly ugly, because males aren't that choosy. Women have choice, and so mating success for men tends to be bimodal. A few high quality men get lots of women, but there's a good proportion of lower quality men who get few if any women. This can be overcome by things like arranged marriages, in which female choice is overridden by societal institutions. In the western world, however, we put a premium on individual choice, and so women are free to choose who they want to have sex with, which tends to be those relatively few high quality males - they get lots of sex, the others very little. Which group do you think the average /b/tard belongs to?

probably because there's so much porn and shit now nobody cares about real sex

>>724427839
i get laid whenever i want but then im not a poor fag and have no problem with railing whores

>>724430918
As long as women have the freedom to work, be educated, and date and marry whoever they choose, and have the ability to not be dependent on a man, there is no shifting the dynamic. The only thing that will is an apocalypse scenario. In that case women would look to men for protection and the gender roles would flip back overnight

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>>724427839
Men are becoming increasingly redpilled on the vaginal jew. Why waste time, money and your life taking care of an underdeveloped human being just so you can occasionally jizz in/on it? I can cum on my own for free and still have all the freedom to do whatever the fuck I want.

>>724430918
If you want to get laid and be better with women I suggest brushing up on some psychology, learning game theory, reading returnofkings.com, roosh.com, and other sites and books related to the manoshpere and redpill philosophy. But ultimately, u shouldn't give a fuck about women. They are overgrown children who don't know what they want

>>724432183
Roosh.com****

>>724432227
Rooshv.com*** sorry damn autocorrect

Only quints can stop?

>>724432299
Good good reroll

>>724431886
shift it towards being equal, not towards it highly favoring men

>>724432412
Im all for it being equal. But right now the dating market favors women more than men. Im simply answering anons question. Which was "how do we shift the dynamic"

>>724427839
Because they'd rather be on /b/ arguing about how society should change so that they can get laid, rather than actually going out and getting laid.

>>724432518
I WAS ASKING HOW DO WE SHIFT IT TOWARDS BEING EQUAL DUMBASS

you answered as if i want to shift it to be unbalanced favoring men

>>724432412
There is no "shifting it towards being equal" women always have and always will be the gatekeepers of their vagina. Except in scenarios like arranged marriages. Even before the internet it was women who got to choose which man suited her. These days thanks to social media women get hundreds of messages and offers daily and that's not even counting daily life going out into the world. All this inflates their egos far beyond their actual worth. For an average guy it can be hard to get noticed among all the noise. The average guys best hope is to become the fuckboy she complains so much about while simultaneously fucking them. Or else be doomed to suffer the "best friend" aka friend zone nice guy role that only exists to boost her ego, and serve as her personal counselor all while not getting laid

because feminism

>>724427839
I suggest that you are getting laid exactly as much as you should.

>>724432706
It will never be equal because men and women AREN'T equal. Maybe in the eyes of the law. But we have different bodies, different minds, we think differently. For this reason each gender and individual will always have different motives and a different view on the world and how to conduct themselves. Where there are differences, there is bound to be conflict

>>724427839
Because they stay in their homes playing video games or fapping to online porn.

>>724432841
>he believes in the friendzone bullshit

That's just pathetic, because not only will it not help you in your future relationships, it just allows you to victimize yourself.
Women generally don't want fuckboys. The difference is that while you're a creepy doormat who has nothing else going on for him other than being nice, sending mixed signals and whining about being friendzoned, that "fuckboy" will have taken her on dates, complimented her, made some actual moves, actually been nice to her, had nice conversations and so on. Then, when you finally confess your feelings after whatever time you spent being an inadequate faggot, she'll reject you because she's not interested, but since you're friends she'll say some nice things because she doesn't want to hurt you.

In reality all it takes to get into a decent relationship is to talk to girls that are similar to you, or would be interested, be yourself and show fucking interest.

>>724432706
Getting rid of dating sites and social media would definitely help even the playing field but those aren't going anywhere. Like I said ur best bet is to brush up on psychology and go read returnofkings.com specifically the "girls" section. U sound like u have alot to learn. But u are asking the right questions. U will learn much more valuable information to the answers u seek at return of kings and roosh v than here

>>724427839
Victorians believed that women are incapable of lust or sexual desires and exist to serve men. Women that acted sexually aggressive in any way were villified. This served to enforce the patriarchy.

Sounds like the exact opposite to what we have nowadays, amirite?

>>724432706
Fight feminism.

>>724433419
I know what u mean dumbass and if ur implying I actually chase around a female who isn't interested in me ur dead wrong. I don't necessarily "believe" in the friendzone. But what else are you supposed to call that situation? Both parties perpetuate it. The guy doesnt have enough sense to cut off the female who doesnt want him romantically, and in his mind is sending mixed messages, and the girl doesnt have enough balls to cut off contact for whatever reason. Essentially both parties are being pussies. Well genius do u have a better word for that scenario? Or would u rather continue pretending that doesnt happen?

>>724427839
Remember that statistics are calculated lies. These studies ask men IF they get laid every month/week/year/etc, not how many times.
Add to this the general preference of women to all fuck Chad's big nigger dick, resulting in him having fucked 10 different women per week, while the rest of the guys are lucky to have a GF to kiss.

TL;DR Women only fuck a select few guys, the rest die as virgins.

>>724427839
are you sure you aren't just a shy virgin fag? mankind was never this much sexual explicit like todays. dont know what you are talking about.

>>724427839
because all the women are molesting little boys

I know for me, it is a sort of fear that I'm not allowed to ask women out, because so many will label you off as a creep as posted here >>724428311

Playing games, watching movies and on the internet means I don't meet many women around. I'm getting to a stage where I need to branch out to meet new women, but I really struggle to think where I could go. I joined a running club at work. None of the women were single. Even if they were, I could never ask them out because of the creep label being applied.

I fear that women will only become interested in me in the next few years (I'm 28) not because I'm attractive, but because they are starting to think about having kids and need to settle.

This probably sounds like a post from a butthurt virgin. I'm not a virgin, but I'll admit I've been messed around by women and I don't really want to go through that again, so I'm just going to be friendly and not ask out women.

>>724433419
How convenient for women to say friendzone doesnt exist while simultaneously smoking all her orbiters weed, complain to a different orbiter about her bboyfriend, and seek validation from another. God forbid these guys become aware of the friendzone and how they are being taken advantage of. How ever would that female ssurvive if her harem of men become aware of this behavior that supposedly "doesnt exist"

>>724434302

So much this

>>724433900
I'm not saying that the friendzone doesn't exist, and that there isn't such a situation where you should cut a woman out of your life in that sense. But this whole "women prefer chad thundercocks" and "average guys can't get laid" is just completely wrong. In fact, this whole "I can't get laid because I'm a nice guy", "I get friendzoned because I'm too nice" and so on is just garbage idiots keep repeating to shift the blame of their failures onto women.

Also, why would women cut off a male friend ?

>>724434619
The friendzone does exist. But it's not what some people want it to be.

It's literally you like someone and they don't like you like that. You get out of the friendzone by stop having those feelings for that person. If you need to cut them out to achieve that then so be it.

Those that say "I'm too nice" "Chad was there" yeah, they're doing it to themselves.

In my experience, a woman cut me off for a time because I wouldn't take no for an answer after asking her out. It was good for me as she made me realise how stupid I was

>>724434619
>trying to outright deny the truth
Muscle packed brutes with horsecocks have the most chances to get laid. An average guy that doesn't show much muscle and has an average dick has a very low chance of even getting a GF.

>>724434619
Ok I agree with you there. Guys who complain and say shit like that just make themselves look like underdeveloped idiots. It isn't really that hard to talk to or date women. Kind of.. Lol.

>why would women cut off a male friend?

Yea good question. Why would they cut off some guy who is chasing her and wants to be with her? The preferential treatment would end. No more personal counselor. No more free weed, food, etc. No more validation. Who would want that to go away? I totally get why girls want to keep stringing along guys like that while simultaneously saying that "it doesnt exist". Her deal wouldn't be as sweet if more ppl acknowledged that behavior

>>724434874
I'm going to do some body weight exercises but I'll never be ripped with muscles. I hope it'll be enough. Already trying to lose my stomach fat with running.

>>724427839
> should
Did they change the daily average again? How the fuck am I supposed to keep up with those constant changes?!

>>724434781
Exactly both genders perpetuate it. Both play their own part in not cutting the other off

>>724435119
Except the male part doesn't come with as many perks.

>>724435177
Lol YUP. And how convenient for women to say "it doesnt exist" while also benefutting from said perks

>>724431000
Neither.

>>724427839
One word.
Feminism

Longer explanation? Because feminism has infected our society like a virus with flat out lies or half truths. Those on the SJW side of the political spectrum are a major danger. They are worse than the victorians who wanted to restrict everything in a grandstanding moral way. They are worse than that OP.

They are worse than cancer and the only way to combat them is to expose their faggotry and take back our masculinity (and also the femininity of our women). Fuck Feminism and all of its grandstanding.

>>724434601
Why do you tards always have to make these idiotic assumptions based on your stupid fantasies.

I was that "nice guy that always gets friendzoned" for 6 fucking years. Until I was 24, I did not kiss a single woman nor ever get laid. I went on shitloads of dates and all though. This friendzone bullshit is just an excuse for losers to victimize themselves and wallow in their self-pity, blaming chad thundercock and those dumb whores for not wanting them. That's what I did, and that's what I had to escape to learn the reality of relationships, get my first kiss and eventually get laid.

>>724434781
This. I probably didn't put it in the best way but this is right. What I meant with this friendzone crap was believing this whole "nice guy, evil chad" crap.
>>724434874
Many women aren't interested in muscle packed brutes. Hell, one of my old friends at the time was absolutely fucking massive. Once he got a bit drunk at a party and took his shirt off, girls told him to put it back on, and were running after the much fitter but skinnier guy. He later got "friendzoned" too.

Yes, if you're good looking you'll have more success, but most guys can find a relationship with some effort. I didn't become less socially awkward, didn't dress much better, didn't lose my excess weight or whatever to get a girlfriend, I worked on my attitude and behaviour. Also I actually fucking went for a kiss rather than trying to see the magical secret "signs" women should send off.

>>724434997
Yeah, it can be more difficult for some guys. Hell, with effort I'd only meet 1-2 possible partners per year.

Yep, the faggots turn that into women being evil, but sometimes they even genuinely get convinced the guy is a real friend, because they've tried to see through the signs and made wrong conclusions. Shitloads of guys will send mixed signals to girls without being interested. They wouldn't even stand out compared to real friends.

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>>724428582
Feminists have even made it hard for Alphas to get laid. The only neckbeard here is you, the cucked one without a cock.