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>not being able to defend your home and life Why don't

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>not being able to defend your home and life

Why don't you own a gun /b/?
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>>724386938
>not being able to defend yourself without a gun

Fuckin faggot
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>>724387241
>fights are always equal

clueless faggot
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>>724387241
>your last words will be fuck i should of had a gun.
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>>724387290
I don't live in a shithole where people attacking people's homes with guns is a realistic threat
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>>724387366
If someone has a knife or club, I'd rather have a gun
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>>724387325
If they were I wouldn't fuck the grammar up like that, because I'm not retarded

>Should HAVE had*

Dumbass
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>>724387442
I'd rather live somewhere where home invasions are unheard of, like here
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>>724386938

>needing guns to defend your moms home
>not mastering the blade

fucking casuals
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>>724386938
Heh, you don't need a gun when you've mastered the blockchain like I have, faggot.
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>>724386938
because gun owners cause mass shootings.
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>>724387471
It's actually spelled dumb-ass, you fucking filthy, illiterate, ninnyhammer.
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>>724386938
I don't care for guns and I'd rather spend my money on other stuff
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>>724386938
>He doesn't bare knuckle box burglars and niggers
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>>724386938
i live in australia
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>>724387639
Don't tell me what I can and can't hyphenate, you autistic scumbag
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>>724386938
I own several kitchen knives and i dont live in 'murica.
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>>724387442
so you can kill yourself before they do? pussy faggot
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>>724387580
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>>724386938
Because I'm afraid I'll point it at myself.
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>>724388106
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>>724386938
Come back to /k/ with me anon. It's ok, we'll keep you safe.
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The gun homicide rate in England and Wales is about one for every 1 million people, according to the Geneva Declaration of Armed Violence and Development.

In a population of 56 million, that adds up to about 50 to 60 gun killings annually. In the USA, by contrast, there are about 160 times as many gun homicides in a country that is roughly six times larger in population. There were 8,124 gun homicides in 2014, according to the latest FBI figures.
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>>724388187
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>>724388187
the only reason i don't own a gun
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>>724388379
Blame niggers

And in a country of 330 million very diverse people and as many guns, 8,124 homicides isn't that bad honestly. Some of those were justified by both civilians and police, too.
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>>724386938

why do you own a gun?

you put yours down, the next person will, and so on
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>>724388379
I just felt the area above my asshole on my boxer briefs and it is a little damp. How can I prevent this from happening?
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>>724386938
Why haven't you mastered the superior art of Krav Maga so you can defend yourself, faggot?
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>>724388582
retarded
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>>724387580

>not mastering both

ultracausal faggots plz leave
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>>724388582
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>>724388574
>Some of those were justified by both civilians and police, too.

It's only counting homicide, not self defense etc. Those rates are strictly unlawful killings.

You have a gun crime murder rate on par with third world countries.
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>>724387704
That means you don't have a home?
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>>724387366
I live IN Detroit. Only had a burglar once, >I was home in bed, but awake.
>Grabbed gun, load quietly.
>Waited until burglar walked down hall and in front of my bedroom door.
>Fling door open, pointing gun at burglars face
>Burglar shat bricks and literally pissed self
>ChrisHansenHaveASeatOverThere.mp3
>Call 911
>911?
>yeah, some dumb shit broke into my house and I have them at gunpoint. Come get this dumb fuck.
>Wait, you're holding them at gunpoint?!
>Yupp. Better hurry or the coroner will be coming too
>Piggy police come quickly, take away nigger
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>>724388379
The US media does in fact distort the image of gun violence.
More importantly, the media has begun portraying US police in a light that showcases them as brutal, heartless pigs. This makes people distrust the police and feel as if a gun is necessary to protect their rights, as if the police would ever immediately support an authoritarian government as many people like to say.
>HURR DURR BUT WUT IF COP JOIN NU FASCIST GOVERNMENT?
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>>724388845
Justifiable killings are still counted in overall homicide statistics.

>You have a gun crime murder rate on par with third world countries.
Not really. And again, it's mostly niggers which are third world people, and they only comprise about 13% of our population yet commit a majority of the crime here.
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>>724388943
>Einstein
yeah, sure
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>>724388845

Lethal force in self defense are still counted as homicides you idiot. They're called justifiable homicides.
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>>724387325
Sounds like some coward talk. No thanks.
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>>724387821
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>>724386938
because I'm not under threat. How much aluminum does it take to put together that hat every day?
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>>724386938
Finally a good home and self defense weapon. None of this AR faggy shit.
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>>724387580
/thread
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>>724389118
Why aren't the massive nigger population of the UK all shooting up everything? Or the Canadian nigger communities, or the Australian nigger communities? Why in the developed first world countries does it only seem to be America where they have a nigger crime problem?
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>>724386938
My 33rd birthday present to myself.
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>>724389501
Hello anon. Glad to see you haven't bought into overhyped /k/ommando AR meme.
Over penetration is never a good thing, unless it involves your mom.
Handfuns and shotfuns are best home defense funs.
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>>724387241
>ready to fight to the death 24/7.
You must have so many friends.
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>>724389635
Oh there's nigger crime problems. But they use other means, and since the law abiding population is disarmed, it makes it easier for the criminals to victimize people.
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>>724386938
Cause iam not a pussy and know how to fight.
ITT: a bunch of faggot safe space, safe place people

Do yourselves a favor and try NOT being a little bitch for once in your life
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>>724389635
>calling niggers that don't act niggerish niggers
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>>724389651
Good choice. If you run out of ammo, you can club them to death with it.
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>>724389808
see
>>724387290
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>>724389808
>Throwing haymakers as Tyrone and his homeboy are shooting at you from 10-15 feet away
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>>724388945
Should have had him call 911 lol
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>>724389939
>being this scared of black people
>influenced by media hype and other ignorant people
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>>724389501
Can't it be both?
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>>724389969
Holy shit my sides! That never occurred to me. That'd be fucking epic
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>>724389939
>black people are not for target practice
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I hate every single one of you.
"BLAH BLAH HAVE A GUN, DON'T HAVE A GUN, BLAHHH YOU'RE A FAGGOT NO YOU'RE A FAGGOT".
Who. Fucking. Gives. A. Shit.
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>pls respond
I want a shotgun really bad, just something to keep in the closet just in case SHTF.
All I need is a gun safety certificate from a 1 time class and my FID card.
Only wrench in the plan is I spent 3 days in a mental institution.
Can I still gun or no? Literally only want a big conspicuous shotgun for home defense. I have a great job, the mental hospital thing was like 4 or 5 years ago, and I'm very obviously not crazy.
What're my chances of gun?
>MA fag if it helps
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>>724390053
Back to the cotton field Tyrone! Shit won't pick itself.
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>>724386938
Because I don't live in a third world country
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>>724390149
Were you involuntarily committed and did it go on your record?

Here's the form to buy a gun from a dealer, see what questions apply to you.
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>Trump signs bill reversing Obama rule to ban gun purchases by mentally ill
America LMAO
>OP is probably part of that demographic
LUL AMERICA LUL
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>>724390093
Fkng key my sides! Says who you Tumblerina? Fucking, uncivilized, uneducated, diseased apes should be eradicated.
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>>724390306
Kek is kak
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>>724390100
>GET OUT OF MY ROOM MOM!
>HOMEWORK SUCKS!
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>>724390281
Go bin that knife you faggot before I report you for having a pointy stick
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>>724390378
Stupid autocorrect
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I'm good
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>>724389781
But the gun related homicides dropped

and continue to do so, they wen't up a little bit around the 2000's because of a gang converting deactivated replicas, but once that operation was closed down it dropped again.
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>>724390281
Liberal logic:
>"The vast majority of mentally ill people are not violent and shouldn't be discriminated against!!!"
>"OMG YOU CAN'T GIVE GUNS TO MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE THEY'LL SHOOT UP THE GROCERY STORE!!!"

So which is it?

And he only reversed the ruling for people on social security for like anxiety and shit, but way to strawman your argument.
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>>724390306
its nice to see you found a place to let out all the things you would never say at a public event and or professional life

Thanks the edgy contrib.

>Fucking normies
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>>724390508
And now you have to be 18 to purchase a butter knife in order to butter your crumpets
>A FUCKING BUTTER KNIFE!
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>>724386938
Last "home invasion" that happened where I live was some edgy teens trespassing into some old guys house.

Also noone has guns.

Keep telling yourself that burger land is the greatest stupid amerifats
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>>724386938
Because I'm a britfag and we're not allowed because our politicians are cunts
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>>724390591
Whom are you quoting?
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>>724386938
but... I do own a gun.

/thread
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>>724390508
It's been dropping steadily in America too, despite more people being armed.

And it's still higher in the UK than before the ban.
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>>724390591
>implying I wouldn't
>implying I'M the normie
Kek
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>>724390278
It was involuntary but only for a 72 hour watch.
I was a danger to myself I guess, suicidal.
They gave me the option of a guaranteed 3day stay or a stay for a length of time to be determined by Drs evaluation.
I heard 3days and just signed papers.
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>>724390648
You're a cool British in my book anon. Come visit, we'll shoot my funs
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>>724390779
Then most likely no funs for you. And probably for a good reason.
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>>724389068
Seriously, who needs to carry three dildos?
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>>724390872
>not carrying multiple high capacity assault dildos
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>>724390872
Your father
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>>724390503
Is that second gun down a Mosberg? It looks like my semi-automatic. I have a 150 with fold down stand.
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why would anyone need a fully automatic assault rifle with high capacity magazines to defend their home?
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>>724390694
>And it's still higher in the UK than before the ban.
No it's not.

un crime in England and Wales the late ‘90s increased after the new gun laws were passed, peaking at 24,094 incidents in 2003–04. By 2010–11 gun crime had decreased by 53 percent from that high.

It peaked after the ban because there was a flood of unwanted and discarded guns and ammo around for a while. But that got sorted out fast.
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>>724391038
For when you want someone really really dead
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>>724391039
And yet>>724390633
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It's not allowed in my country but I have an unregistered AK47 and two mags of hollowpoints.
Just in case the Muslims start flipping shit.
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>>724391039
The UK is still far from a crime free utopia like a lot of people paint it out to be because of the so called ban
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>>724390872
When you have a women like mine you always have to pack heat
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>>724391217
All my guns are unregistered
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Which is the safest Western country?
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>>724386938
>Why don't you own a gun /b/?
because i have an intrusion alarm and a german shepard.
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>>724391124
That was shops covering their asses when an ambiguous law was passed that said under 18's couldn't buy knives, they didn't say what was and wasn't a knife, so stores just refused all sale for a while. Butter knives and cutlery sets were taken off that list years ago.
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>>724391287
Why is there a bubble wand in her snatch? Are you blowing bubbles with her cooze juice?
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>>724391362
So the alarm can notify the police to come clean up the crime scene of you and your dog?
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>>724390977
No, it's a Remington 550-1
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>>724391362
I own cigarettes and a cardboard box with puppy piss on it
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>>724391228
pfff fuck that bar chart lol, if I spit on you or push you it's considered a violent crime in the UK
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>>724391374
Uh huh.....sure thing
Enjoy your rape whistles and fluorescent "defense" sprays.
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>>724386938
I live in a very nice neighborhood where I'm at very little risk of being the victim of a crime.

If I had a gun, I'd be more of a risk to myself.
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>>724391453
get past my dog and you can have anything thing you'd like from my home. :)
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>>724391228
you're comparing apples to oranges.

"violent crime" as a criteria differs by country. The UK, for instance, lists assault, murder, etc, just like the US. it also includes domestic abuse as "violent crime". so is withholding a partner's credit card or bank details to control them. so is spitting at someone. so is calling someone a cunt.

Yes, saying you're a cunt, is a violent crime in those figures, exactly like murder.

those statistics are completely inaccurate, because they do not compare like with like.
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>>724391515
Yeah but the UK is full of little nancy men for whom getting pushed is the equivalent of a violent assault that they have to get treatment for.
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>>724391576
Can I have your dog?
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>>724391562
The fuck you talking about, you do realise we can still own guns, right?
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>>724391576
>*shoots dog*

prep your asshole fuckboi
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>>724391660
you're certainly welcome to try and take him. :)
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>>724391696
oh...i forgot to mention my remington 1100 with 000 buckshot. go for it. :)
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>>724391937
Now you're talkin'
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>>724391485
I'll throw my meow meows at an intruder

>>724391515
Yep...pretty much this. God forbid you walk with a pointy tree branch, or bike chain, down the street

There is no self defense in Britland. You can carry a rape whistle or fluorescent spray (you know, to "mark" an assailant. By the time the "bobbies" come, you'll be long dead or raped into submission.
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>>724391686
Those prices are horrendous
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I think the no gunz are missing the point of a gun or weapons in general.

Lets put it this way;
"Peace through overwhelming firepower"
Force deterrence, nobody will commit acts of violence against you if they know you are armed.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
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>>724388845
Bullshit. Homicide and "Self-Defense" are not two different categories. All killings are homicides, and homicide is either justified or unjustified. Those stats are screwed harder than your whore of a mother. Anti-gunners ALWAYS inflate stats to support their argument. Just like how they count suicides as "Gun Violence". Yeah right, fuck right off. No one who isn't living in a bubble is going to fall for that shit. KYS.
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>>724391998
three words:

>violence of action

:)
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>>724391447
>Why is there a bubble wand in her snatch?
That's where I keep my Mossberg.
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Prefer to use a knife
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>>724391686
you dont expect americans to actually know anything about gun law in other countries?

they've been fed the whole "freedom" bullshit since birth, and taught that no-where else is free, because they cant have guns.
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>>724392053
There's no real gun culture for them to be mass imported, so the price reflects the demand
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>>724391686
Lmfao.....carrying long guns down the street in britbongland. Good luck with that.
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>>724391686

>overpriced .22's
>no handguns
>no semiauto centerfire rifles

I mean, you do realize you're cucked right?
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>>724388945
would have just killed him
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>>724391924
>rifle length gas system
>non railed upper
Why are you the way you are?
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>>724392055
Brits are just still pissed that we took back our country with funs and beat their asses in the process. Down with the queen! I can't wait for that old hag to die.
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>>724390063
abomination....
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>>724392171
Contrary to popular opinion, carrying long guns down the street in America is a great way to get the cops called on you too.
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>>724392312
instead of being a faggot, tell us what's wrong with his set up.
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>>724392394
it's not an arrestable offense
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>>724386938
>Why don't you own a gun /b/?

because I'm not a fraidy cat pussy

AND

I'm rich and live in a crime-free area

ABSOLUTELY NO NEED WHATSOEVER

>sorry you faggots are such pussies you need a gun to feel like a man
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>>724392185
These pistols are legal lol, pretty shit I know, we have a very similar law to New York
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>>724392409

nothing wrong with it, anon is just being autistic. Basic 20 inch AR uppers are great, reliable, and lightweight.
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>>724390739
The white race needs to undergo a genetic purging so we have some bobbys that can compete with the niggers physically
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>>724392185
^this
/thread
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who needeth a gun when you have beyblades with razor blades and a lot of iphone chargers
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>>724392543
KEK. whitey doesn't compete with niggers
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>>724392477
Tell that to the people who were arrested (albeit unlawfully)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vUR9f7wnvk
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>>724392370

They also don't have freedom of speech, because they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings
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>>724386938
>not being able to defend your home and life without a gun
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>>724392409
>>724392538
He's right. It's just not my personal preference.
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>>724387366
I'm pretty sure a home invasion is a realistic threat everywhere.
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>>724392538

i just ignored it. just a tactical fag. i dont really care about rails and flash lights
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>>724392254
Too much red tape bullshit. I didn't feel in any immediate danger. I would've liked to, but cleaning up the piss puddle was enough without having to clean up brain matter
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>>724392495
And if you lived in a rural area where the police were half an hour away at best?
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>>724392653
if one, then all. do you realize how stupid you are?
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>>724392884
>one example is the only example
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>>724392708

Rich neighborhoods are better targets because of the fact they are filled with people who think they are safe. Home invasions tend to happen midday when the occupants are out. The neighborhoods also have porch pirates.
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How much would this cost in America, compared to these UK prices?
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>>724386938
I do op....... HK masterrace reporting in
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>>724392394
No shit Sherlock, but open carry is legal pretty much everywhere, as long as you aren't committing a crime or forbid from owning firearms.

>>724392543
Back to the cotton fields Joe.

>>724392643
No need to

>>724392662
Sadly, America is becoming just as bad in that regard
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>>724393050
>when the occupants are out.

Then it's not a home invasion, it's a burglary
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>>724393050

rich fags that work in the city driving home to a nice suburb are the most targeted.

niggers see a person driving a 50,000+$ car on the road, follow them home

they can usually just rush in through the garbage

rape/loot then get right back on the highway back into the city
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>>724386938
Cus its illegal ._.
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>>724393161
Is that a mk23? My wee wee feels tingley!
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>>724393628
I wish........ it's a USP tactical. I do know there is at least one anon on here that has a mk23
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>>724393423
I see niggers driving a $50k benz or caddy and I think,"heh, just another nigger exploiting the system."
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>>724393158
This one has an optic on it, tho

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/626550876
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>>724392543
Let me relate a lesson I learned very early as a cop - it's all about attitude - and niggers are weak on attitude. When your average street nig meets a white man that's ready to throw down - they nut up and cry for momma.
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>>724386938
somebody will kill you and that gunshot will go to some gang
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>>724393745
Not too bad then I guess
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>>724393724
You have good taste anon. /k/ would approve (minus the "muh Cock c23 is better" fanboys)
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>>724393799
Dubs of wisdom
Have known, and witnessed, white cops here in Detroit arresting nigs. First thing they do is scream "brutality!, racism!, I dindu nuffin !"
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>>724393423
You're watching too many crime dramas on crime tv. Violent crime of that type is at a 30 year low.
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>>724394161
Heh....live near Detroit, Atlanta or Chicago and reassess that statement
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>>724393735
>I see niggers driving a $50k benz or caddy and I think,"heh, just another nigger exploiting the system."
That's your fucking hang up because that might be a doctor or lawyer. Assholes like you that conflate black with nigger are a worse problem than actual niggers.
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>>724394161
Wrong. Niggers are nature's super predator and they're coming for YOU.
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>>724393880
Thanks anon!
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why would you want to use a shotgun? not like the perps are gonna stick around once shots start being fired. a 9mm pistol will do the job and not leave a huge mess of blood and possible legal mess
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>>724394302
Grew up in Detroit. Was a Houston cop and a Miami detective. I've forgotten more about violent crime than you'll ever know.
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>>724394307
>That's your fucking hang up because that might be a doctor or lawyer.
Not the ones with $2500 in car audio and gold teeth
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>>724394378
>Niggers are nature's super predator
I think you mean slavs. They are actively trying to take over the USA.
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>>724394519
Any gun is going to leave a mess of blood and legal mess. If I need to use a gun, I want one that will fucking put someone down.
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>>724394553
doctors and lawyers don't drive Cadillacs unless they 60+ year old white folk
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>>724392839

Still wouldn't. I hate to tell you Elmer, but Al Qaeda isn't going to come find you on your peanut farm.

You might want a shotgun for bears though.
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>>724393971
>>724393999
>>724394030
Are we seriously ignoring a combo and trips? Wtf /b/
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>>724390149
If you were in a mental hospital you are are still crazy and fucked up for life. Sorry you should never own a gun
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Shit laws means getting a gun is a slow process here

but one day I hope to own a nice collection
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>>724393423

so absolutely untrue.

laughing my ass off

sorry you're such a fraidy cat pussy
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>>724394553
Must be pretty confusing to you when you see a black man doing better than you. You automatically want to imagine he ripped off the system - while the system only rips you off.
Here's the deal anon - it's your DNA that ripped you off.
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>>724388762
Yes, it does. Always.
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>>724393423

Thanks Wayne LaPierre.

We didn't buy your bullshit boogieman scare stories yesterday, we're not buying them today.
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>>724394890
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>>724394668

>Dead me don't tell tales
This is what you want. You can have someone go against you in court if they are dead.

>>724394378

Truth, blacks are tremendously predatory in nature. No other racial group goes out of their way to fuck with another like blacks do. Blacks have to get put down by every single racial group in the country. Blacks are like the the kid who doesn't seem to learn their lesson when they touch the stove.
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>>724388845
because of niggers and gangs killing each other, if you don't associate with those types you have as much chance of being shot and killed as you do in a different country
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>>724394307
Trust me man, in my part of Detroit, they aren't fucking doctors or lawyers. Google Brightmoor, I live less than a mile from there.
Don't get me wrong, anyone can be a nigger. Hell, I had a black gf for a while. She was one of the most educated and well spoken black people Ive ever known. I've also met my fair share of white niggers, some of which made the majority of low life black scum I've known seem like affluent white crackers from college educated backgrounds.
Sadly, the majority makes the minority look bad. My crush? Carolyn Clifford, local news anchor.

>>724394532
I grew up around it. I was a piece of shit when younger. I saw friends shot, kids die, sluts raped. You become mentally numb to it.
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LOL ANTI GUN FAGS


TRUMP WON


IT'S OPEN SEASON ON NIGGERS EVERYWHERE FOR COPS AND ARMED CITIZENS
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>>724389651
Are you talking about the bananas?
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>>724394870
Not myself, no. Hell, I had a $5k audio system in a $7k Ford Escort when I was 19. And I'm Wonderbread.
But no self respecting, half way decent, citizen of society wears a gold and diamond "grill". Just look at that little Jew scum Danielle peskowitz.
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Guns are a necessity

youtube.com/watch?v=y_aKhfqNvBM
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>>724389635
I assume America has the worst niggers, niggers that were literally the descendants of hundreds of years of slave trade and breeding that made them physically strong, but otherwise genetically bereft.
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It's funny I frequent casinos in Sioux Falls we are population 185000. But we have 100+ mini casinos here that have lots cash on hand. There are always niggers that come in and look around and leave. They see me with a trench coat and seem to know that I have a hand cannon in my coat. Smart niggers
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>>724386938
Because statistics say you're more likely to accidentally shot a friend or family member rather than an actual threat.
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>>724386938
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>>724395684

Incredibly strong, but also incredibly stupid. Thank god they aren't very smart.
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my roommates are wannabe jackie chan, danny trejo and NWA so im gud
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>>724387471
>I'm not retarded
>I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
Yes, you are.
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>>724389651
>>724389869
>run out of ammo
implying it takes a real man more than 12 shots to an hero
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>>724393272
a burglary is generally everywhere defined something like "entering into a dwelling with the intent to commit a felony"

it doesn't even matter that "occupants are out"

do you think we should give people like that leniency when, luckily for the burglar, nobody happened to be home?
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>>724387580
>fucking casuals
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>>724387592
No, fanatical people cause mass shootings. Get your head out of your ass fag-tard. Anyone who wants to use a gun to cause violence will get it regardless of whether they're legal or not. Fucking dumbass.
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>Libcucks talk about banning guns
>Conversation always devolves to black crime
I think Libs should do their black allies a favor and stop trying to take people's guns away.
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>>724386938
cuz i live in brazil.
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>>724386938
>a gun
>loud
>blood spray everywhere
I prefer quiet and neat,
and no witnesses.
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>>724386938
No need for it, simple as that.
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>>724393971
>>724393999
>>724394030
well done anon!
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>>724392717
>tactical fag
Fudd detected
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Wow is that a stun gun, because that gun is stunning.
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>>724396820
Over 9000 keks!
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oh shit a frog
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>>724396736
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
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>>724386938

honestly, due to mi. i probably would shoot myself at some point if i had one lying around.

that said, the world's fucked, and more and more i think about buying one for the sake of defense.
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>>724396523
I'm a pro gun liberal.
Well, kind of liberal. A lot closer to liberal than conservative. This is my post >>724390503

People just get to extreme in their views. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, but typically I consider conservatism worse than liberalism.
We probably should have more regulations on who can purchase a gun and how. Mental health of the purchaser should probably be seriously evaluated.
Conservatives always like to say that mental health, not guns, is the problem. I agree to a large degree, and the solution is some sort of well regulated national mental health care program that's funded by taxes so that we can be sure even the poorest of people have access to the help they need, but conservatives call this socialism and are against it. They don't want to solve the problem.
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>>724398582
^this x9000
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>>724398881
Sadly the idea of self preservation is long gone. Everything is "oh that's the government's job" or "oh that's the police's job". Very few people stop and think "maybe I should be responsible for my own well being"
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>>724396736


>check fox news crime section in next couple days
>story about how 3 niggers broke in a home, cracked the guy's head open and his girlfriend gets "air-tighted"
>it was this anon...
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>>724399249
Oh but the police are there to protect us from people doing that and nothing bad could happen in the >5 minute response time (at best) of the police /s
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>>724386938
Because I'm not allowed in Canada, no fucking pepper spray either.

I don't want/need one now. But when i eventually buy a house, get married and have kids, I would want a firearm in the house, in case of emergencies.

>Mfw I can hunt moose and shit no problem, but If i shoot a nigger breaking into my house with a gun i go to jail.
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>>724392736
2cool4me
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>>724395290
What a great picture
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>>724398778

The family should be helping those who are mentally ill. There should also be places for the mentally ill to go so they can get the help they need, either through charity or state. These two groups should ensure that guns don't get into the hands of the mentally ill by taking care of those people.
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>>724399191
>>724399506
The police carry guns to protect themselves. Not to protect you, him or I.
The more people that learn/realize that, the better off we will be as fellow country men.
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>>724400206

That is why you need to push legislation and politicians who will get you more gun freedom.
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>>724400363
Yea. Tbh I think open carry and shit like that is stupid, you don't need to walk around with a fucking gun, that's what the cops are for.

What irks me is that you can't keep a firearm locked in your house, even with a permit for the use of self defense.

So now I'm just working out and getting jacked so I can just overpower everybody with my tree trunk arms instead.
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>>724400206
Other than a handgun, the most affordable, and efficient, means of home defense is a 12ga pump shotgun loaded with #4 buckshot, alternated with slugs
#4 shell, slug, #4 shell, slug, etc
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>>724400282
False.
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>>724400258
The family argument is really dumb because it assumes that they aren't also poor. Real systemic poverty isn't like when an 18 year old goes to college and can call his/her parents for cash.
The problem with leaving it up to the individual state to regulate is that there will always be gaps. Some states will choose to do very little to help people or regulate gun ownership. Guns will come from those states and cross into the states that are more strict.
If we are the 'United' States, then taking care of our people's mental health should be done at a national level, to insure equal help for everyone. Nobody should be at risk of slipping through the cracks.
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>>724400282
Sadly most people don't want to realize that because it would mean taking responsibility for themselves and those around them. People don't want to admit that the government isn't some end all be all that will protect them from the "bad guys".
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>>724400543
>that's what the cops are for.
See>>724400282
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>>724400747
not an argument
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>>724400747
>implying without providing references
Go back to the donut shop piggy
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>>724389068
What's that weird ribbed black thing that looks like a dildo attached to the keychain?
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>>724400747
Do us all a favor and jump off a cliff. You're so fucking retarded
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>>724386938
that couch gave me schizophrenia
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>>724400780
110% truth anon. Thank god for our constitutional rights.
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>>724400781
It's both, It's to protect themselves SO they can protect you. It's pretty clear that a lot of people who have guns should not have them. Walking around the street and being a cunt with a fully visible weapon should not be allowed.
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>>724400905
It's a dildo on a keychain
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>>724400762

See this why liberals have a hard time with everything. You don't even trust your own family to take care of you. I know it sounds a bit traditionalist but the family is a very strong thing to have even for the poor. You can't depend on the state for everything. There are also churches and secular groups who can help.
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>>724398778
>Mental health of the purchaser should probably be seriously evaluated

You don't do that already? At least you check out criminal records, right?
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>>724401077
If you could prove that by posting a link/image of a catalog, I'd believe that.
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>>724401016
But the Constitution is the product of privileged white men and should be rewritten REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>724401059
>Walking around the street and being a cunt with a fully visible weapon should not be allowed.

Why not? I see a guy with his family open carrying, or printing because he doesn't know how to CC properly, I feel better knowing this guy is willing to shoot to kill to protect his family.
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>>724386938
I do have a gun faget.
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>>724386938
>u can only defend your things with guns
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>>724401308
Oh, so because of that specific issue, it gives felonious niggers a reason to illegally obtain and carry firearms?
>muh BLM!
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>>724401286
You caught me implying.
But it does look like one!
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I got one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMkHrmAgzY
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>>724386938
OP
die
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>>724401402
>nigger detected
>hand grenade
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>>724401100
Mental health care is expensive. It's not about trust in ones family. If the family is poor, then they can't afford it. Saying that family is a strong asset doesn't refute that.
There are some churches and other charities, but as a 'United' nation, I don't think that leaving people's well being up to that is fair or realistic. By that system, we will always have people who can't get the help they need. Our mass shooting problem is indicative of that.

The only reason conservatives are actually against national socialized programs is money. That's just selfish, and not a very united way to live.
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>>724401251
Typically there is a background check that evaluates the purchasers criminal record, and also a waiting period of a few days before the purchaser can actually retrieve the weapon. In many places, these regulations do not apply to private sales.
This is not enough.
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>>724401326
And I might add that that is the guy I'm going to find if SHTF. Protection in numbers.
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>>724401685
You don't have any taste and no sense of history faget.
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>>724401737

There are people out there who can help. Even if the care is expensive there are people out there who are willing to give a little out of their pocket. You can't become dependent on the state to do everything for you, you have to find the help from your community and the people around you.

Also family is a very strong force for the poor. A poor family is better off than a bunch of poor individuals. Poor families are bound to find success when they combine their skills together.

I think you are offended by families because you are a Marxist of some sort. Well I have to tell you Marx was wrong about the family. Family is something people need to get through the hard times.
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>>724402420
None of your arguments are actually arguments at all.
What your saying is that the way it is now is fine, and people who need help can find it, but if that's true then the problem must be guns and not mental health.
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Don't give a shit about my life and don't own a home.
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>>724402614

Yes they are, you are very resistant to the concept of family. You have a strong distrust of family and your language proves it. Marxists are the only ones who make these types of arguments against the family.

I don't know if it is because of your indoctrination or your political motivations that make you take this stance against something that should be fundamental to all people. I will let you answer that on your own.
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>>724402251
I do...it's a Jennings/Phoenix made from Zamak (zinc alloy), same as a HiPoint "glock 40 problem solver"
>pic related
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>>724403423
This is called deflecting. The fact is, you're arguing that guns aren't the problem, but also that mental health isn't the problem, but there's definitely a problem so...
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>>724402251
>>724403943
And FYI.....hot wheels cars are/were made out of zamak. Enjoy you hand grenade
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>>724403423
You clearly don't know what Marxism is. All you're doing here is regurgitating buzzwords and propaganda you've been fed in countless far right echo chambers over the years.
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>>724404466

See, this is why people hate you. Stop being a subversive coward and just say what you want to say. Puff out your chest, let your balls drop, and just say you that don't want white male capitalists to have guns because it poses a threat to the Communist utopia.

People would respect you more if you were open and honest.
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>>724391038
Nobody ever said anything about fully auto, you libtard.
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>>724404858
Constantly making shit up like this doesn't make you sound tough, it makes you sound like a retard.
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>>724386938
I do. And I'm liberal. Bernie would have won. Fuck hillary.
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>>724405056
Cuz that's what all britbongs think we own
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>>724405222
Which is why they will never again try and take over
>trips of truth
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>>724386938
because I don't live in a fucking forest hut surrounded by bears, or niggers
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>>724388379
>be in england
>having a good time
>knows I wont get shot cuz no guns
>gets stabbed

you're more likely to survive a gunshot than stab wound nigger
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>>724393161
I have a vp9 fuckin love it
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Don't own a gun because I don't trust my manic-depressive states to not cause me to kill myself.
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