What keeps an atheist from murdering and raping all they want?

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>>724357023

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HOOTA!!

HOOTA!!

HONK!!
If you love JESUS

Compassion, empathy, kindness.

What keeps religious people from murdering and raping all they want?

>>724357292
They do.

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>>724357023

Fuck off. Die.

>>724357023
The idea that other people lead the same miserable existence as I do. And I have no desire to add to their misery.

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>>724357292
>Compassion, empathy, kindness.
>atheists

Try to bait harder. Atheists were the biggest massmurderers the world has ever seen. Stalin and Mao were atheists.

>>724357023
>Is the fear of prison the only thing preventing an utter breakdown of society by those with no moral compass?
Clearly not, all law is atheist law.

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>>724357526
>believing this

no wonder they say that atheists have the lowest IQ

>>724357023

It's so sad how many Christians ask these questions, as if they've never felt or experienced love, or any positive feelings at all.

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>>724357511

If you believe one thing you see on /b/, just one small detail you might take as truth...

then you've been had by trolls, trolls trolling trolls, or trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

Trolls might say trolls are trolling the non-trollers but to say non-trollers exist here in the first place is a troll and should be trolled right back at them.

>>724357023
The old saying is that "There is no such thing as an Atheist in a Fox Hole".
And I'll bet that there is no such thing as an Atheist on his death bed.
The closer they get to death, the more they hope their own certainty of Atheism is incorrect.
.

The closer they get to death, the more they doubt their own certianty.

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Because I don't want to, and can't find a fictional character to use for justification in doing so.

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>>724357023
This is now a loli thread

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>>724359617
also known as, the more you are afraid of death, the more likely to believe in fairy tales to calm you down

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>>724357023
Memes are the only thing that keeps me from raping you senseless.

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>>724357023
you've obviously never been to prison

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>>724357023
I'm an atheist, the idea of killing other people is abhorrent to me, not because there is a secular or religious punishment for it. It's an instinctual emotional reaction to the concept that stops me from doing it.

>>724360305
moar feets like this

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>>724357607
Who says that and do they have empirical evidence?

>>724358984
He encountered the Carib, who painted themselves red, and ate their neighbors. Of Columbus' men that were left behind in a makeshift fort, none survived.

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>>724357023
I HAVE killed and raped all the people I want, and that number of people is zero.

If yours is higher you should go sign up for a therapist.

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>>724357511
Yeah, those were bad people who did bad things, and Atheists condemn those actions just like Christians, Muslims, and any other religion condemns the violent acts of their fellow believers

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>>724357023
What keeps a Christian from murdering and raping all they want?

The fear of reprisal?

Is the fear of hell the only thing preventing an utter breakdown of society by those with no moral compass?

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>>724357511
Two people who did terrible things in the name of power (not atheism) is a far cry from the millions murdered throughout history as a direct result of religious belief.

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>>724357023
if you only behave because an imaginary being will punish you.......your pretty fucked up

You dont need a god to not be a cunt.....it is called BEING A MATURE ADULT

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>>724361311

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>>724361337

>>724357023
No it's because most of us respect human life. You don't need to believe in anything to be a good person

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>>724361354

2000 years ago a person who could do magic flew up into the sky

and hes still up there, and hes coming to get you

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>>724361385

>>724357023

Manipulating people is a lot easier than killing them. No matter what you believe in.

>>724357023

What keeps someone who doesn't believe in a deity from committing a crime is knowing it's wrong and won't waste their time doing it.

In other words...

>common sense, faggot

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>>724359617
>confessing that his own faith is based on fear
kek

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>>724361623

>>724357023
Logic prevents humans from killing and raping each other... as well as the quite logical tendency of folks to cooperate.

Your imaginary friends are unnecessary to normal humans, godder.

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>>724361639

>>724357511
seems you forgot.....The Inquisition, The mass murder of native americans and Incas, All the "Holy" wars and did you forget ALL the blood shed over protestant and cathlics in Ireland.

You fucking loser

More people are killed because of religion than not.....Now hurry up and hit puberty

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>>724361756

>>724357023
The Social Contract.
Anyone above the level of a child can easily see that "take whatever you can" only benefits the very top 1% of people who are strong enough and ruthless enough that no one is able to take from them. For the rest of us, well over 99% of us, the rule of law is clearly beneficial. Everyone agrees to not just loot everyone else's houses willy-nilly, and in return everyone gets the security of knowing their own house won't be looted. I submit to a system that disallows me from killing some complete semi-functional retard that clearly deserves it, and in exchange I am protected from being killed by some frothing fundamentalist idiot that I might anger with my extremely low assessment of his or her intelligence. We don't need a scary man in the sky to threaten us into doing it. We do it because we're smart enough to understand that it's a GOOD IDEA.

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>>724361793

I believe religion came around as a way to govern people when there was no education and there were weekly meetings for the town in the church. Anyone with half a brain can look at who makes the world go around and its the scientist not the pastors or reverend. What does religion do? Makes you have morals and rules while bringing in faith with it as the controller where as the government is morals and rules with the government being the controller not some made up idol.

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>>724361911

I think what most people are missing on this thread is that regardless of one persons, or a collective amount of peoples religious viewpoints is that you can't completely remove humans natural/primitive impulses. Hitler could have been a Buddhist and still gone through with what he did. Just about everyone I have met proclaiming themselves a member of a religion or some kind of bat shit borderline cult, uses it as a crutch for something to fill the void inside them that pertains to the answer as to why we are here. I understand that didn't answer OP's question quite well. My answer to OP is simple. I personally think people don't commit these kinds of acts simply because even though they can commit the act, they are blocked by a more appealing mob mentality called law. If you aren't sly enough to get away with it, you will simply be outnumbered, or ganged up on it depending on how you look at it. And if imprisonment isn't like temporary death, I don't know what it could be compared to. maybe punishment by boredom? Murdering or raping someone doesn't seem worth 10+years of boredom.

question is:
would you a loli?

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>>724362082

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>>724362147

>>724361982
The question is more, who wouldn't a loli? The answer? Faggots

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>>724362159

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>>724362196

>>724361972
>punishment by boredom?
lol no.
it's slavery, straight up. they make you work, you don't just get to sit in a cell all day every day like you see in the movies. People who are too dangerous or high-risk to work on prison work details outside the prison get stuck working for labor programs inside the prison.

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>>724362215

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>>724362304

>>724362176
I wouldn't a loli, I'm not attracted to kids.

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>>724362331

>>724357023
kek, thinking moral values can only stem from a deity worshiping religion

fuck off

>>724362355
faggot

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>>724362358

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>>724362395

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>>724362419

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>>724362513

>>724361853
I think religion started as an innocent way to explain the world around them, and someone eventually realized it would be really good for keeping the masses sated with their lot in life and calm the fuck down long enough to build a civilized society. From there more people realized religion's power and used it to control the masses to their whim.

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>>724362735

>>724362376
No u.

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>>724362762

>>724362240
If you wouldn't consider being a slave boring then you must be some kind of retard.

>>724361025
fucking this

whenever christians present this argument they're effectively saying:

"i'm a murdering rapist psycopath, and the only thing that prevents me from doing these horrible things is christianity"

real fucking optimistic message

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>>724363066

>>724357023
>What keeps an atheist from murdering and raping all they want?
Read Dawkins first book: the selfish gene.

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>>724357023
not using any world leaders as example because they don't represent humanity as a whole.

Prison is a pretty big one. but also empathy. a lot of atheists hate religion and see it as a bad thing so generally they are peace minded and won't hurt people anyway.

Religion actively uses gods word as an excuse to harm others (see Islam) (see crusades) (see Spanish inquisition)

I'm an agnostic nihilist, so you could consider me an atheist I don't really care. I don't believe in the bible. I have a morality based on consent. If you want to do something that involves another person in some way, you simply ask for consent and then do it or don't depending on what they answer. it's the most simple and effective set of morals anyone can have.

>Can I have you car?
>No
>Don't take car

>Want to have sex?
>yes
>have sex

>Can I rape your daughter?
>ask my daughter
>can I rape you?
>no
>do not rape

Morality is not rocket science. it is not complicated in the slightest.

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>>724363238

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>>724363312

>>724357607
empirical evidence say that atheists have the largest IQ

>>724363763
True that may be, but coming from another non believer. The IQ system is a failure.

it does not accurately depict critical thinking or physical thinking. artists spatial thinking or maybe geometrical thinking when throwing a ball or aiming a gun. stuff like that counts

>>724357023
Its not fear, you twat, its will to live as normal human being.

>>724363239
so if someone were to consent to you killing them?

>>724363239
isnt it an oxymoron to ask someone wether or not they want to be raped? After all if they were to consent, it could not be described as rape anymore

>>724364476
>Can I kill you
>Yes
>Kill them or don't (you're also not obligated to do something you don't want to do)

>>724364554
It was a poor choice of words at most. but you understood the meaning behind them so there's no need to discuss it further.
"Can I fuck your daughter?"

>>724364554
There's always rape play.

>>724359404
I came here to shitpost and chew bubble gum...

and looks like I'm all out of gum.

>>724365033
and allah subhana wa tala says that those who engage in such haram filthy things, that sin to this level, and do not engage in taubah... there is a special well in hellfire we are told by the prophet (saws) who said there is a special place, a well, where these people are hung by hooks through their genitals, those who have done haram sexual things, zina, worse.... they will be hung by hooks through their genitals, and made to eat the discharge while fire is coming up into the well over and over, and this lasts for thousands of years. allah swt is surely most honorable and wise.

>>724365033
rape play does not mean real rape, thus the question remains unanswered

>>724365201
Oh, don't worry. Religion isn't real, so no one's going to hell

>>724365355
says the words of shayatin to deceive you, may allah swt deliver us from this evil. Abu Huraira says in the Hadith 4 that the prophet and messenger of Allah (saws) has said that the evil shayatin RUN from the house where the surah al baqara is receited. Your unbelief cannot stand when confronted with the truth.

>>724364554
>oxymoron

an oxymoron refers to a juxtaposition of two contradictory words or phrases (Jumbo Shrimp).

what you're think of is a paradoxical line of conversation.

even with consent, one could wish to be raped (taken forcefully). it may not be considered rape on one end of the scale, but simply wanting to be raped does not prevent you from ever being raped, since it is more on a case-by-case basis. just as well as being married does not prevent you from being raped simply because your rapist is your spouse.

>>724357023
>What keeps an atheist from murdering and raping all they want?

I'm pretty lazy, tbh.

>>724365860
one can not wish to be raped by definition. The moment you consent to it, it ceases to be rape. And your point about marital rape contributes nothing to the conversation.

>>724365742
are you using internet shorthand and trying to preach to us? can't really take you seriously when you use "4" instead of "for"

>>724365742
Oh, well if your god is merciful, maybe it will understand why I don't believe and not send me to eternal punishment. I know I would

>>724366067
are you for real?
If you are I feel sorry for you

>>724357023
I love to overcome my most primitive impulses. That's how I quit smoking and lost weight. I love the sentiment of victory that comes after successfully rejecting a brutish passion.
Why believe in a god when you can become one yourself?

>>724361853
Yes I agree and stupid people fuel religion Im not saying everyone in religion is stupid but you can notice a trend where as education became more available making people smarter which made more atheists and you guessed it scientists.

>>724366063
wishing to be raped, and being raped are different events.

a desire is not an absolute. it's not something that lasts forever in anyone. simply wanting to be raped in one moment does not prevent you from being raped in another. people have the ability to change their mind. and typically most people may "want something", when in reality they want something from a specific person.

you've changed your mind at one point in your life, have you not? or regretted a decision? or heard the phrase "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it"?

is the idea of someone wanting to be raped and then recanting the desire such a foreign thought to you that you couldn't even humor the idea?

>>724366453
Of course you can change your mind, we have heard about a few cases where regret turned into a false rape accusation for instance. I have to admit that yes, it is a very foreign thought to me, I can not empathise or humor de idea.

>>724357511
>Try to bait harder. Atheists were the biggest massmurderers the world has ever seen. Stalin and Mao were atheists.
Actually Stalin was raised to be a Catholic priest
Hitler...well this quote says it all
“Besides that, I believe one thing: there is a Lord God! And this Lord God creates the peoples.” [1] ~Adolf Hitler
Mao was a Taoist

Good try though

>>724357607
Actually nobody worth listening to says that. Why pull nonsense like that out of your butt

>>724366879
I'm sure you've never changed your mind about anything. And I'm not talking about changing your mind after the fact (oh that was a bad decision).

it's similar to giving consent to your S.O. one day, then not the next. if your S.O. doesn't respect that, then it would be rape, even though they consented the previous day.

here's a hypothetical you might be able to wrap your head around.
>girl has fantasy about being raped
>girl has boyfriend who they roleplay and enjoy their time together (not rape even though they act it out)
>same girl is out at the bar the next day
>gets picked up by some guy and he subdues her, then forces himself on her without consent.

so, by the transitive properties of retarded thinking, because she had the fantasy previously and had fun with someone she trusted, she is incapable of being raped because she obviously always wants it, no matter how it comes?