>I suffer making $100,000 - $1,000,000 dollars in my late

It's expensive living in SF. $2000 a month for a studio apartment? On top of that, you're surrounded by faggots and millennials. Fuck that. I can't even afford to live in my car out there.

>>724326241
Read the article.
Youd think if they're worth that kinda yearly salary they'd be smart enough to figure a resolution.

Guess it's just easier to put a hand out to daddy zuck

>>724326563

So you live in a lower class suburb an hour out. Living in a high-rent major city is retarded at any income.

There is literally nowhere on earth where you can make six-digits, live in the first world and work at the coziest companies in existence all within a decade of graduating and still claim that you're suffering.

>>724326563
Still leaves them with over 1400 a week after rent if they earned $100,000 a year

Facebookers are entitled little Kool-Aid-drinking shits who have mindless devotion to the company and don't recognize any of the bullshit they're inflicting on the internet or their local communities. I've had friends get swallowed up by them. They're killing the Bay Area.

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>mfw OP is a triggered snowflake Millennial ranting about triggered snowflake Millennials ranting

>>724327090
Not only the bay area. The innovations google and facebook are trying to push will end free speech all over the world.
All for the pc culture meme all those nerds fantazise about after years of being bullied.

>>724327251
if the market accepts their innovations that's called capitalism you fucking commie

>>724327251
Nerds are much, much more likely to wank over Ayn Rand than PC culture.

>>724327090
>>724327251

No matter how hard I try I simply cannot and never will be able to wrap my head around the social media craze. Literally the only thing it's good for is triggering and trolling normies.

>>724327334
Not if the market is dominated by a monopoly you tard, which is what facebook and google basically have. Learn some basic economics geez.

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>>724327408
>>not able to wrap my head around social media>
>posting on 4chan
>mfw

>>724327408
I think the fact that it has been used to successfully shame companies into doing the right thing is a redeeming quality.

>>724327529
he isn't that smart, yeah?

>>724326241
Only a tiny handful of millennials actually have careers. They're called the 1% for a reason

>Zfags think the problem isn't going to be much worse for them

>>724327251
It's not nerds, it's women who support PC garbage

>>724327545
The right thing is always a matter of perspective. In the context of corporations it almost always means: "what the loudest minority wants"

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>>724327563
false. unemployment among millennials is12.8% you fucking retard, lrn2google

>>724327563
Have you never seen the type of men that hang around swj's? Always thin chinned, low energy nerds hoping this tactic will get them laid.

>>724327627
Oh like when Sallie Mae tried to collect on a student's load after he was killed on campus until they were shamed out of it on social media? Sure wish that whiney minority had kept quiet, eh?

dumbass

>>724327529

>Anonymous imageboard where the purpose is basically to shitposting for fun
>Imageboard with all your personal information where the aim is literally to shout at everyone you know about every detail of your life

Totally the same thing. Although it may be a reasonable argument that imageboard are essentially social media for Autists who can't into an irl social life.

>>724327359
What am i if i think both are cancer?

>>724327905
said the autist who can't into an irl social life

>>724327976
You sound conservative but not neo-con, mostly.

>>724327978

>Having an IRL social life

GET THE FUDGE OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>724327976
if you don't know already, you need to ruminate on the subject further kiddo

>>724327976

You have wisdom of Russia bear.

>>724326241
Money does not but happiness ( to a certain threshold ) this has been shown time and time again. Look at all those rich and famus people who kill themselves and live way better lives then this dude.

>>724328160
They are over rated mostly just bring drama into your life also super time consuming. Better to have a small circle of closer friends then a whole bunch of acquaintances

>>724326241
What about us millenials who are actually in poverty you fuckign retard

I cannot find a job that pays more than $11/hr anywhere. And I owe 60k in loans. The only future I have is Canada and getting there is expensive.

>>724327334
>capitalism
>Jew-run and jew-owned fascist system emerging all over the world
>capitalism

idiot.

>>724329951

Yes, it fucking does. The only people who claim that money does not buy happiness were either
A. Born rich and therefore have no idea what being poor is like
B. Celebrities

All the rich people who kill themselves are celebrities. The in-the-shadows executive/investor types with no celebrity and no limelight are the happiest people alive.

>>724327643
false statistics stupid. It's more like 30%. When they stopped counting people who stopped looking for work because they already looked for years and couldn't find shit, that's when the official statistics became propaganda tier lies.

Nobody I know has a real job that pays more than $10/hr. Except a couple drug dealers and trust fund babies with rich parents who own their own companies.

>>724331478
> poverty
> sitting by the computer surfing the net on a saturday

Nice.

>>724331580
>The in-the-shadows executive/investor types with no celebrity and no limelight are the happiest people alive.

Youd be surprised at how those retards manage to sabotage themselves. They're not happy either, nor should they be.

If a working class person gets 50k a year without working, I guarantee you they are the happiest person on earth.

>>724326241
>Le millennial meme
kys

>>724331682
Yep, if it weren't for food stamps, rent assistance, and heating assistance, along with my own company I started in college I would literally be on the streets right this second.

ALL of my friends live with their parents at 27+ years of age or older. There. Are. NO. Jobs.

>>724326827
Like 30% of that gets income taxed

>>724326827
>what are taxes
Scram kid, the grownups are talking.

>>724327527
Looks like their ideas are widely accepted, then. Fuck off.

>>724331709

As a NEET, not doing anything with your time is absolutely horrifically depressing. Sure, for two days a week it's fun, but when you have literally nothing to do in life except shitpost on imageboards for weeks and months on end you end up very close to suicidal. Unless you have young kids or something else to occupy your time with wishing you were a NEET is a death sentence.

>>724331771
Just walk into a factory and said you want to work.

Its not hard.

>>724331771
I'm 25 and live at home. I have a job there's just no way I could afford to live in Toronto. I'd rather live at home and save for a down payment then burn half my income renting a box to sleep in downtown Toronto

>>724331944
Than*

>>724331771
Military

>>724327643
Sir, DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CAREER AND A JOB? >>724327563

>>724331944
But that's what you should do. Move out at 18 and struggle to make ends meet. At 50 your body is broken and you still make shit money, unless you get a lucky chance. The American Dream is based on a few success stories and a lie that hard work always pays off.

>>724331478
Y'all are fucked, no two ways about it. Baby boomers are sucking the planet dry, and automation means that there will be fewer and fewer jobs available.

>>724331985
>>724331926
These guys know.

If you "can*t" afford, make it affordable, move to another city etc.

If you "can't" find a job, then you do not want one OR you want a very specific list of jobs which unless attainable you settle with unemployment because you are a wuss.

>>724331922
Oh, no way dude. Because of my company I can afford to do that and it feels fucking amazing. But it sure as fuck woldn't feel amazing if I still lived with my parents.

It's all about the environment you're in. Posting away on an imageboard is great fun when you have an entire house to yourself and can have hot sex as loud as you want, smoke weed in the living room with music blasting, as opposed to stealthmasturbating with your mom folding laundry right above you.

Trust me, money makes all the difference. Everyone my age is depressed because there's no money man. THat's what it is.

>>724331944
I don't recommend that dude. Get a house in the country or something. It's better for your mental health to be away from your parents at 25.

>>724331985
Too late for me. Would have done it at 18 but I thought college was the right idea. Go figure, all I have to show for it is eternal debt. What a stupid country to Jew its young like this.

My only hope of a good life is Canada. There is no future in the USA. It's gutted and rotted out.

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>>724332148
>My only hope of a good life is Canada.
you think

>>724332104
I should be forced to struggle and burn my money and leave an empty room in my parents house? There's no logic there, i don't give a fuck about some arbitrary dream

>>724332148

>Have sex
>Smoke weed

You've got normies privelige, and therefore things you can actually do. I'm talking about the average 4chan autistic weeb who's entire life consists of work and imageboards.

>>724332148
>. It's better for your mental health to be away from your parents at 25
Why? I get along fine with my parents

>>724332292
Toronto has like 100 homicides a year in a city of 3million and most are in a couple rough areas. Compare that to the murder rate in any major U.S. city of equal or lesser size

>>724332292
Well, it's my only option unless I magically win the lottery and have a spare 60k/70k to get rid of my debt.

But I've heard stories of people paying off their debt and then still having hidden fees illegally added. The only way out of it is to leave the country it seems.

>>724332329
I have sex with my dogs dude.

>>724332342
It's not healthy even if you get along with them. You're stuck in kid mode until you leave. I was like that until I was 23. My business took off somewhat and I'm living okay without working right now.

>>724332415
>You're stuck in kid mode until you leave.
Yeah I guess this is kind of true. I'm going to law school next fall in thunder bay which is like a 15hour drive away so I'll spread my wings then

>>724332124
I was fucking joking you imbecile. You really do not get a job by walking into some shitgrinder saying you too want to grind shit.

>>724332298
But you are lazy and entitled and probably communist as well if you do it smart instead of the manly American way.

>>724332475
No you won't. Kid mode sticks with you throughout college and school.

You need to make money to get out of it. It's the only way.

>>724331926
>herpaderp

Good luck getting those jobs without 5+ years of experience and the burning life's dream desire to work for minimum wage.

>>724332600
>Good luck getting those jobs without 5+ years of experience and the burning life's dream desire to work for minimum wage.
see >>724332544

>>724332544
Hah, upset much.

Well jokes on you, I have worked at a bunch of places while studying and that's EXACTLY how I got them, I picked a place, walked in, requested to meet with their boss and offered my hard work, worked every time.

Don't get fooled by the "CV shops", "Work agents" and alike, THAT is the joke.

>>724332600
Law school is a professional degree, i already finished my undergrad in 2014

>>724332780
Yes but instead of making money you're adding another 752765276523 dollars of debt to your account. Do you see my point?

>>724332771
I did that shit a lot too. A lot. Every time people just said they're not hiring, and I'd always see some skimpy tight 20-something behind the counter.

A lot of cafe/restaurant/bar positions are gender specific.

>living on the central coast of Cali (expensive as fuck tourist town i was born in)
>only make 1200$ a month working at a gas station
>pay 600$ a month rent
>live in a nice 4br house with a few friends
>have a beater dodge ram, and a challenger i make monthly payments on
>have money for food, necessities, and hobbies (vidya, guns, booze)
>still manage to put money into savings
>only 20 and have 12k in my savings

These faggot Hajis dont know how to live within their means.

>>724332771
>Don't get fooled by the "CV shops", "Work agents" and alike, THAT is the joke.
We've gone over the difference of a job and a career already in this thread.

>>724332923
>Yes but instead of making money you're adding another 752765276523
I have like 90 grand saved
I can pay for my degree outright. I am making money, just living at home while doing so.

>>724332955
You need a job to have a career silly.

>>724332928
>Working at a gas station for minimum wage
>Not getting an education
>Living in a glorified dorm
>Wasting money on possibly the worst cars available

You actually think you're well off? You must not be a very smart person.

>>724333027
You don't start a career at a place where you can just walk in and start doing dishes.

>Be 20, NEET living with my parents
>Parents moved to foreign country after third grade
>Didn't know language
>Took me three years to learn
>By the time I hit seventh grade I was already too far behind to be able to understand anything
>Mental health issues started around that time
>Ended up dropping out entirely after a few months
>Literally have third grade education
>Just passed first grade math on Khan Academy, and had to watch a few of the videos to do even that

Is there any hope at all for me /b/, or should I just accept that I'm going to be living with my parents for the rest of my life?

>>724332928
Funny, I get $1200 a month too and my rent is also $600/month. But I don't have a cent left over every month.Maybe $60-100 at most or less. Are you sure nobody else is helping you? Then again I have to pay all my utilities.

>>724332970
Does that really seem like a good way to spend your money considering the extremely bleak outlook for the law field?

Do you really want to make 30k a year for 5 years straight working for some multimillionaire nepotist firm who only promotes family?

Trust me, take that money and buy a small cheap property somewhere for 30k or less. Then you will be set for life.

I know 5 lawyers and none of them are happy. Four of them say there's no future for their life and one of them graduated from Cornell. I would not recommend that road.

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>>724333105
In the Sims that's how you unlock the movie star career

>>724333160
What countrym

>>724333160
Dude, you are actually AHEAD of most people with college degrees. I have a college degree but 50k of debt which I will NEVER pay off in my lifetime or the next. Now I have to figure the fuck out how I'm going to move to Canada or live in poverty forever.

You are way ahead of the curb if you don't go to college.

>>724332928
My point exactly.

Everyone expects "equal" economic lifestyles, fucking jet sets more like it.

> Only drink tap water
> Only cook at home and in bulk, rice/potatoes etc.
> Only pay for necessities, no drugs/pasteries, nothing I don't need except internet, though the small price outweighs the time cost to do some stuff without the internet access at home.

>>724333161
Cool, my dad's a lawyer and makes like $500k and is very happy. I don't want to work at his firm but it's an option

>>724333161
600$ is with utilities included, like i said, 4br 3bath split 4 ways. I live close to my work and buy cheap ass ingredients at food4less to actually cook my own meals, food costs and gas is what gets a lot of people. Both my parents are dead so if anyone's helping me im sure not aware of it.

>>724333105
That's exactly how many careers start, then they move on to hack the cold dishes/prep then aid the cook and within short time they are the cook or manager or whatever the enjoy doing.

OR with the great experience and confidence they have built they can easily find a new work to pursue a career in.

Stop the negativism already.

>>724333239
>Everybody should settle for a life of mediocrity for the rest of their days
That is not how most of us want to spend our only life, anon.

>>724326823
I bought a house about 30 min away from SF and my payments are $2100 a month but at least I get way more space then a studio

>>724333239
Most of these faggots are going to starbucks/chipotle every single day bc they cant into cooking basic fucking meals for themselves. That shit will bleed you dry

>>724333329
Holy shit you are delusional. Do your future self a favour and stop looking at old Hollywood movies.

>>724326827
Taxes bitch

> be 35
> somewhere between millennial and gen-x
> work 50 hr+ a week to make it
> paid off house year and a half ago
> living pretty good now on ~$3000/mo

I'm 33, pharmaceutical sales rep, married to a successful graphic designer. We live in a suburb of Detroit. shit is affordable but just can't save enough money it seems. Mostly stupid shit like fixing something in the house or car that's eating our savings. I'm trying to start a business on the side. There's literally no reason why a millennial making more than 70k should whine about life. Unless you have some insanely expensive health issue. Man the fuck up.

>>724326241
That article does not maths.

I make about $50k a year and I live in MD (which is very expensive compared to the average). I have a house, car, food, and money left. It's still $1600 a month for my house and $4-500 a month for food....

If you make $200,000 a year and you only have to pay $2,000 a month for an apartment then you're getting about $3000 a week...net....

You'd literally have to have holes in your pockets to piss away that kind of money. Even if you lived on $12 coffee and had a coke habit you'd still have a decent IRA at the end of the year.

>tiny violin

>>724333513
How about the fact that you have to live in an insanely expensive region just to work? I've no idea why you would think of yourself as an authority on this issue when you're living in fucking Detroit suburbs of all places.

>>724333239
You are fucking stupid if you think saving a few pennies here and there is going to make a difference. Doing all that and living like a fucking retard peasant will save you maybe $1,000 per year. Congrats, 5 years of that and you'll be the proud owner of a shitty used car.

The only way to make money is:
-Start a business
-Be born rich

There is no alternative becasue careers are a fantasy concept that no longer exist except for a lucky few. You are lucky to get a job if anything at all.

>>724333256
I highly suggest you work at his firm or use his experience to build your own. You are one of the lucky few with nepotism on your side. I thougth you weren't a born-rich dude but congrats I guess

>>724333305
Ah I see. I pay about $900/month with utilities included. My food is free from EBT but I still have little money left over each month.

>>724333329
You are living in a fantasy stupid. Here's how it really works:

>Dishwasher starts working
>wants to prove himself
>works hard everyday, never late, always on time, no sick days
>sticks with the restaurant/hotel for years
>lazy slacker company owner's son joins workforce
>texts all day, does nothing, has sex in the bathroom with his girlfriend then blames the dishwasher
>dishwasher of 5 years gets fired and has no real experience on his resume other than being a dishbitch for 5 years
>company owner's son gets promoted, inherits restaurant/hotel, lives happily ever after
>dishwasher lives in a run down rat infested ghetto fo the rest of his life.
>the end

That's how reality works stupid. Don't trust your parents who lived in the easiest time in American history when "careers" actually were a thing. THey no longer exist.

>>724333395
Nobody I know does that because nobody has a fucking cent to their name.

>>724333329
Tell us more about the things that happen inside your wild imagination, Anon.

>>724331534
>implying that hasn't been the foundation of capitalism for centuries

>>724333467
Worked 50 hours a week doing backbreaking work not too long ago and still had to decide between rent, food or electric. Not two out of three, just one. I remember after coming home on a Saturday and breaking down because I went food shopping but they shut off my electric without notice and most of my food was spoiled by the time I got off work.

THAT's what working hard in the modern era gets you. If I didn't have my company I would be fucked. That was back when my company wasn't doing too great. It was depressing. I can only imagine how hard it is for most people without a company to fall back on. No wonder suicides are record high since the great depression.

>>724333614
It's called driving a fucking hour every day. I did it and they can too.

>>724333397
>>724333352
haha jesus, at least this guy knows >
>>724333395


Mediocrity?
I find extreme pleasure in living my life, every, single day.

> Work as a teacher, enjoy pedagogy
> Play the guitar, love electric and acoustic
> Various workouts, gymnastics/martial arts
> Fuck my nationalistic/communist GF
> Follow our interest times in the world
> Planning on moving north, buy a small place and just live like hippies after our 30-35's, currently 27.


Live and learn, you fools.

Money in itself lacks inherent value, learn from history, once chaos errupts and it will, money are useless unless you're a billionaire.

A dog is approx. 10-15 years of pure bliss and joy.

1000$ is approx. two months rent.

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>>724331534
HEY JOOS WE DONT TAKE TOO KINDLY TO YOUR TYPE ROUND HERE

>>724333739
I lucked out.
I mortgaged this place in 05, a couple years before the cost of housing here went apeshit.
If I would have waited a couple more years, I would be screwed and paying the mortgage till I was nearly 50.

>>724333798
Here you are assuming that everyone finds joy in the same things. Money does not bring happiness, but it does bring means to obtain happiness. Your perspective is extremely narrow for someone in a teaching profession.

>>724333798
Good for you for having a real job I guess?

You really think millennials can pull any of that off working at Wendy's or Walmart?

>>724333916
Yeah, it's basically over for most of us under 25 or so. Unless we go to Canada, but not everyone is able to do that.

I'm at a unique position fo rmy age. I might be able to sell my company and move up there if I'm lucky. I feel so very sad for the people my age who have literally no options available to them other than suck on mom and dad's teat dry, or work slave wages while living in a ghetto for eternity while the economy dies around you.

>>724333653
I don't own a car. bikes please, or foot, use them feet lazy.

You're obviously not intelligent enough then, you frame owners son and take his job.

Learn to compete.

You are the bunch of "impossible things" people, the bunch of "you get born into things" and the "universe is already set".

You lack conviction, I guess you have never worked in a sales force? Gritted your teeth scheming your way whilst working hardest to get to the top?

Only to get that useless top, but with a useful recommendation from the sales leader which grants you the next step on the ladder into management.

I guess most people here are just to young or naivé to understand what's worth struggling for.

>>724333936
I made no such assumptions, if I did I'd like a quote from your imagination.

I play the instruments available in school, you sound like my students who think you "MUST HAVE magical TALENT to be able to do anything other then internet".

>>724334089
You cannot survive without a 4x4 car where I live unless you have a passive income stream. It's like that in some places in the country.

You sound like a very stupid person overall. If you call the economy being dead "lacking conviction" then you are an infuriatingly stupid person to be around. I hope you lose everything in a divorce or something and your son/daughter inherits poverty for life so I can laugh at you.

>>724331478
>>724332148
>>724333237

Fuck off poorfags Canada doesn't need more lazy Ameriburgers rolling over our borders

>>724334046
I didn't start there.
I did dishes in a shitty seafood rest., got some contacts then I worked transport, both hazardous and hectic.

Moved to into sales from transport, nice being inside for a change, beat my competition so got my first promotion to educate others in sale, started my education from the money I earnt and yes, at age 27 I am a teacher making 25$/hour.

However I only work 2-3 days a week to able to enjoy more things then work in life.

>>724331632
wise anon is wise, however; those numbers are still low. the national numbers for "unemployment" are registered in the most absurd way possible, phasing out people who have been getting unemployment checks for a certain amount of time (around 12 weeks) and those who just quit looking. Were being lied to, and all to make america look better than it really is.

>>724334274
Divorce lol, I would never make a legal marriage for that reason alone.

I don't believe in relying on heritage like you do, sorry.

Then perhaps you should make something about your miserability and perhaps move?

What? Where? Fuck if I care, away from the computer for starters. At least I have TRIED to help people here.

All you brought was a hammer.

>>724334353
How nice for you. What year was this exactly? If it was before 2012 you need to shut the fuck up and stop pretending that today is the same as yesterday. There. Are. NO. Jobs. Get it?

I have trouble finding customers and my business is barely surviving because. THERE. ARE. NO. JOBS.

I don't work anymore but if I did I sure as hell wouldn't be going anywhere. I worked my ass off in construction for 5 years and got fuckign nowhere, just deeper in debt from these student loans. And the only ones who ever got promoted were the owner's blood relatives of whatever company I was working for. It's like that out there you see. Nepotism and all.

>>724334459
>Divorce lol, I would never make a legal marriage for that reason alone.

Ever heard of common law?

So you got lucky and landed a lucky job. Now you somehow equate that with "hard work". I can guarantee I worked harder than you for many years and it got me nowhere.

>>724334401
Yes when I heard they changed how they define the statistics I stopped taking them seriously. Real unemployment is 30% or higher for 25 and under.

"the landmark 2010 study found. “We conclude that high income buys life satisfaction but not happiness, and that low income is associated both with low life evaluation and low emotional well-being.”"

>>724331796
>>724331799
>>724333426
Roughly 1000 after taxes, you mean to tell me you guys can't live off that shit? Not the poster, but still, it's not like we're taxed 80%.

>>724331944
Toronto isn't THAT expensive, but yeah, it's still very very unaffordable.. the fuck happened to the housing market? In 2011 places in Whitby were 300K and places in Markham were 600k, now every fucking house is worth a million, even in Brampton for whatever fucking reason

For the last 30 - 40 years, the cost of living has been increasing faster then the average wage has. Unionized companies are becoming rarer. More jobs are outsourced to 3rd world shit holes. The increased cost of med coverage means that fewer companies include benefits.
Who the fuck are we kidding in this thread. The baby-boomers had it way better than the millennials ever did.

>>724334459
you sound like a bitch dude. Have you ever worked 12 hours a day laying shingle on a rooftop and having fucking nothing to show for it?

$8/hour.

That's work and thats why I fucking quit. Not worth it compared to being a NEET and making more money than I used to by doing nothing.

>>724333564
yee

>>724334735
Once you look at how much food is out there it's not as much as you think. I read an article saying an average bagel price alone is ~$8. So if you figure a Bagel cost (here in MI about $1-1.5) is roughly 5x greater than many other areas and apply that to other food it paints a lot different picture.

>>724332292
A. Toronto isn't all of Canada
B. Look at a place like Toronto and then look at a city with a similar population that's reasonably nearby: Chicago. Crime rates are nothing in Toronto and I've been in the ghetto of Toronto, really nice people live there. It's just a tad run down

>>724334877
Go dumpster diving and apply for food stamps. It's the only way I'm currently surviving and I own a fucking business.

It must be a nightmare for most people my age without a business.

>>724326827
100k per year = 67k after taxes
67k / 12 = 5,583 (per month)
5k / 4 = 1300 (per week)
monthly costs of a 1 bed apartment is 3,460
5k - 3k = 2k
2k - other living expenses = maybe a few hundred bucks at the end of each month left.
(gas if driving) (food if you want to eat) (electricity) (water + sewage)
all in all, youre a dipshit. I live in TN where my cost of living is rediculously low so my $12 an hour is suitable to be alive and happy.

http://neuvoo.com/tax-calculator/California-100000
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-expensive-is-san-francisco-2015-9

>>724326241
When were you born OP. If you were born after like '83 you're probably a millennial, a.k.a the majority of the population of the US.

Even if you're not a millennial yourself you're still saying that like 80 million people are all entitled software engineers.

I for one am a millennial and I'll probably end up working a shit job until I retire at the age of 80, because if you can't get into STEM you're not the typical inner city millennial that everyone talks shit about, you're just another worthless pleb holding up society from the bottom.

>>724335044
1983 is still gen y territory. Millenials are after 2000.

>>724335008
Stupid him for not moving. An hour commute is worth $2k+ per month.

>>724326241
He probably so stupid trying to live a lifestyle he can't afford to live. I.E expensive house, vehicle and dining location.
That much money is more than enough to survive in big cities.

>>724326241
what the actual fuck do they complain about...Iam pretty sure there are people in san francisco earning less..he is complaining that a coffee costs 8 $, who the fuck is serving the coffee? a waitress...and that waitress can afford living in/around ssan francisco and she doesnt earn 1 million dollar

>>724334573
Well you are complaining harder, that you've proved.

So I'll take a shot, your efforts are misplaced, much like your anger when you believe the promotion fairy will magically observe and award the hard work you put in.

You are mouthy online so you're more likely the silent type IRL thus the employer never noticed you because you were invisible.

Years passed and instead of your wallet growing fatter only your resentment did. So you begun nurturing it more and more by spewing bile on the net and getting a release for your personal issues by projecting them onto others.

My father told me that hard work is useless if it goes by unnoticed, unless you have a private company but most people start off public.

So it doesn't matter if you're never late and always perform perfectly if people doesn't notice.

What you have to do besides hard work is to socialize and build a network, only from there on does the real competition begin.

The only privilegie you get today is if you can afford a reasonable education since it makes finding those specifics jobs easy, assuming you're ready to move wherever for the first gig.

That's my experience, ranging from 2005-2017.

I have worked every summer since I was 13 and never said no to work unless I already had one.

In total, I have likely had more then 15 different jobs until I settled to become a teacher.

The only full time (guaranteed) job was in transport, sale/education and teaching.

>>724334799
Yes, transport, sat in a car for hours, lifted cement sacks for hours, inhaled all sorts of dangerous shit because work-safety didn't exist back then.

Learn to co-exist and make contacts or sure, settle for whatever neet means and call people online "bitch".

>>724334981
>>go dumpster diving
I don't think that's a solution for everyone though considering all the people that are homeless there also. It could work for a few people but not if everyone did it.

>>food stamps
I just did a quick search on CA's food stamp program and it looks like out there you need to be making less than 15.5K to qualify so most people working a job wouldn't qualify.

Not sure how old you are but hats off to you running your own business. My Gpa owned one and my dad owns one and it's not for everyone. I hope you are a few years in as appearantly the worst years are 1, 3, and 5.

began* -.- english is not my mother tongue.

>>724335153
bitch id drive 3 hours for 2k. but living that far you'd get way more back.

>>724335197
Man you sound like a pretentious fuckstain seriously. Must have had everything handed to you your entire life.

I grew up in the ghetto and worked hard to get my family out. I never got anywhere until I started my own business. That's my life. I clawed my way from the bottom. Bosses only ever promoted their sons from what I saw.

I did socialize. That's the point. Yet it still goes nowhere if the only one getting promoted is the son, get it? You don't seem very smart.

Let me give you some perspective. At my college in 2015, there were THOUSANDS of people applying for FREE internships with shitty corporate companies fetching coffee and cleaning out printers. Thousands.

Can you even remotely picture that having been handed things to you on easy street? Fuck off buddy.

>>724335335
I have 2 good dumpsters to score food in. Always fresh and always full. You have to go looking for it.

Yep, if you make money you better keep it hidden. Unless you want to starve to death.

My business is 3 years old and I'm getting $1200 per month without working. We make a decent amount of money but its never enough.

I disgaree with you though, it's for anyone who wants to be paid without working themselves. I will never waste my precious time working for someone else who's only going to promote their slacker nephew/cousin/son anyway.

>>724335153
Millennials are not after 2000 mate. The range actually goes from early 80's to early 2000's.

Millennials are the majority of the population of the US and if your family is poor and you don't absolutely blow your education out of the water you're not going to get into STEM.

You get to watch as your prospects get replaced by computers and realise that as far as society goes the best you can be is a modern-day peasant, ranging down to a straight up unneeded person in society.

>>724335576
Correcting myself, not majority of the population, but the biggest generation.

>>724335314
faggot made ez money pre-2008 crash now telling us all millenials how lazy we are. Please kindly eat shit and die. I am stuck with my parents forever unless I win the lottery.

>>724335576
Never heard a 37 year old call himself a millenial dude. It's more 2000 or so, maybe 1995 at a stretch.

>>724326241
Rents closer to 3k a month in any area somewhat close. 2 hour commute to work to lower the price a tiny bit. 36k a year alone on rent, that's not covering insurance, food, utilities, clothes, public transport or car. Everything is inflated by about 4x where they are. I'm a computer engineer making $67k a year, I'm so glad I do not work there or I'd be in debt.

>>724326241
You don't get context, you stupid cunt. Their point is that it costs so much to live in that shit hole that $1,000,000 feels like nothing.

I may be a stupid millennial out in California, but I'm not stupid enough to move to San Francisco. LA is expensive, but at least you can find places where you don't need to make a million just to afford fucking rent.

>>724326241
Also, do you think all millennials work for one of the most powerful companies in the world?

You're bunching an entire generation in with a hand full of people working for FUCKING APPLE.

>>724335744
"Millennials (also known as Generation Y) are the demographic cohort following Generation X. There are no precise dates for when this cohort starts or ends; demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and the mid-1990s to early 2000" - Wikipedia.

Millennial refers to being the generation that reached adulthood around the turn of the millennium.

Anyways the point is a fuckton of millennials couldn't even dream of living in an expensive city and working as a software engineer. That's the people with nice, middle class, supportive families who helped them get educated.

The rest of us are plebs.

Also I'd say the older age of a millennial is like 34-ish.

>>724336082
Yeah I always get pissed when those middle class or higher fuckers with a good life handed to them talk about us living in the ghetto being lazy.

Like they expect Wendy's to pay for a house, car, boat, RV, and all the other luxuries they inherited from their rich parents, not to mention a decent fucking job on top of it all. That's an impossible thing to ge tby itself.

And then they delude themselves into thinking it's "hard work" or "determination" or some other such nonsense.

Sigh, the amount of losers in this thread,

You should do one thing, start boxing or any legal fighting and compete and you will notice that hard work and business-like ferocity outdoes anyones son, whether it be Tysons or P.acquiaos

That is my final advice, you think "hard work" is not enough. You think someones son (or daughter which nobody mentioned) automatically surpasses you.

Well you are wrong, I would never give my kid or any friend for that matter a job that one of my employeés are more qualified to.

If that HAS happened to you, get over it and stop crying already.

Move to a city with more jobs, a country with better opportunities whatever you gotta do.

>>724335569
I'm >>724335335
I've never had to thankfully bc I've worked at least 2 jobs at once to make sure it never came to that and now i'm working full time (and still part time on Saturday) and can support me and my girlfriend pretty well.

On your business that's great man! i'm looking into potentially renting out houses in the future to live off that. On owning your own business I personally don't have anything against it and it's not as "hard" as people make it out to be in the sense of when you look at other companies you have to wonder "how are they still in business? I could do better than them." I think for some people it's too much effort and others are afraid it will fail.

>>724336240
You do know EVERYONE started off somewhere?

You expect everyone here to know what "Wendy's" is, do you know what "Majas" is? No you don't because it's a fucking name for a local workplace restuarant.

Moochers.

>>724336311
More dumbass advice from the peanut gallery. Yes, let's all become professional boxers because that's totally not advanced stage autism.

>>724336415
Thanks man. It takes a lot of money to make a little bit of passive money. I'm actually looking into paying people to write books for me so I can live off the income of royalties but it costs thousands of dollars upfront.

No, business is not hard at all and it's a lot easier than working for someone else. Try it and be ambitious, but don't mistake hard work for progress. Progress is 90% luck. Finding that client, or having randomly rubbed them the wrong way for no discernable reason is a daily coin flip and it affects large chunks of your business at a time. It's luck, not work. Only money to invest in it increases your luck.

>>724336568
Another moron handed everything to him from the cradle. Why don't you fuck off. Go boating with Mommy's credit card and talk to your rich friends about how lazy we all are.

>>724335614
Not the guy you replied to but if you're stuck with your parents for that long I would ask one question. Why? There are tons of opportunities out there to make more money. The cheapest you could do would be learning to code and write your own programs. The knowledge is literally free in most cases and you could make some money off of it. The most expensive you could do is some sort of college or trade school but then you start making good money.

Basically if you aren't investing in yourself you WILL be stuck with your parents your whole life but it's your choice at that point.

>>724336240

This guy
>>724335569
Will probably do well if he works as hard as he claims to do, then in 5 years tell people they have to work hard and have determination.

Music is a great industry to make an example of, guitarists don't get got because their daddy had cash, they get good because they practice more than their competition.

Django Reinhardt was a fucking nobody Gypsy until he made contacts.

>>724336751
>want to kill myself everyday
>99% of my day is "should i kill myself"
>my mom is sick, cant afford meds, wants to kill herself too
>"Hey I got an idea I'll learn coding!"

Now try repeating that in your head but try removing it from your ass first.

>>724336700
Not a bad idea about the royalties. You could even do something along the lines of what you did to make your business take off and talk about the struggles and such. That could allow you to do a good portion of the work and then just have someone proof-read it and change whatever which should lower your cost depending on how that works.

>>724336818
That's the paradox. I don't work anymore. My employees do. I will never be pretentious enough to tell people to work hard because i learned firsthand that work doesn't pay.

I'd recommend selling weed before I'd recommend working hard to anyone. I know a guy who made it that way.

>Music is a great industry to make an example of, guitarists don't get got because their daddy had cash, they get good because they practice more than their competition.

Delusional as fuck. Guitarists get got becasue of pure 10000000% LUCK. Do you not understand how huge of a factor luck plays in these cases?

>>724336965
Already wrote a book about it but it's selling about as well as a dry lump of shit in the middle of Arizona.

You need money to advertise, proofread it, gussy it up and make it look nice or it won't sell.

>>724336700
"professional"
?

I basically said, test your mettle if you claim its all that and at least you will learn that somebody works harder than you, thus is better at said profession than you...

Are you stupid or just acting it? can't tell anymore. I mean you have my exact words on print and still get it wrong at every turn.


Whatever, you're a lost cause, can't take a fucking advice when it's spoon fed to you because you think you don't need it, yet to whine on some fucking image board.

I have had it.

I did mention I'm a teacher? I help hundreds of people every year to succeed.

But hurp durp he probably rich family so he auto good at work n stuff.

Fuck you, you ungrateful prick.

I thought you was geniune but all you want is back-patting.

So congrats on your business you're obviously doomed to fail.

I know a girl who lives in San Fran with her bf. They together make over 210k a year but complain they are always broke. They have an apartment in the heart of the city, they east out every day, they go to concerts and drinking weekly. She barely afforded to visit her family back here in MA. Couldn't afford the plane ticket, parents pitched in.
It's a special kind of stupid.

>>724336879
Why so angry? I did nothing to get you in your situation and offered you an idea how to help yourself. It sounds like you should talk to someone about other issues you may have if that is your case. You're not going to get out of that situation until you do something about it. Crying on the internet and insulting random people isn't going to do much but carry on if that's what you want.

>>724337104
> selling weed
> not work

??????? It is work to sell weed.

Even legally AT MANY PLACES today.

>>724337121
Its a lifestyle choice

>>724337104
Dam, I know nothing about the book market but sorry to hear that

>>724337104
Funny, all the musicians I know make a living out of it, they were dedicated, from not-rich families and in their 20's they all had some place in the industry, not the " pure 10000000% LUCK" stardom but a living nonetheless.

>>724336818
That's stupid. My cousin was the best drummer in my state for 4 years running. He wet to Berkley. He toured in Europe with an orchestra.
He now work as a hotel manager because he couldn't get the high paying gigs and positions he worked so hard for. Not because of lack of skill but who the fuck needs drummers

>>724337107
Only teachers I ever had put me and everyone else down didn't help shit.

Don't care for backpatting, all I care about is money but I'm not delusional enough to think that howmuch money I have is the result of how much work I've done.

I guarantee I will make more money than a Chinese slave worker at Foxconn, but will have done 1/10000th the work they ever ill.

Money is about luck and relationships or nepotism, not about work. I get the money I get because of luck or because peopel like me, while my poor bastard employees are on the ground doing all the work.

>>724337121
priorities... what are them and where are they

>>724337249
It's the same as any money. You need lots of money to start making even a little money. Only the born-rich are at an advantage, and they always convince themselves it's because they "work hard". How cute.

>>724337290
well drumming is stupid, completely obsolete unless you get a live band.

>>724337190
Which is fine. But don't bitch all the time about how life isn't fair because you can't afford shit.
Save money, move somewhere cheaper etc.

The point OP is making is that these types of people choose a lifestyle of decadence and extreme spending and then have the audacity to call themselves poor.

>>724337412
As opposed to guitar playing? Music is a passion sure, but it's no career move. I won scholarships in piano but I knew even as a kid that wasn't a smart move if I wanted to live a decently comfortable life

>>724337326
this is so true