How long do cannabis withdrawal symptoms usually last for moderate

>weed
>withdrawl
no

>>724262583
Weed definitely has physical withdrawal symptoms, read the literature

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>>724262583

>>724262710
>>724262749
i smoke weed every day and when i stop i don't get withdrawl symptoms

Wat? Withdrawal? Weed?

Only negative thing I feel after not smoking for a while is a particular sense of boredom.

>>724261307
Quit trying to blame all your problems on everything else but you, you fucking lazy piece of shit

>>724261307
>weed withdrawal

spotted the non smoker

>>724262886
/thread

Oh, should be around 0 weeks, 0 days and 0 hours
Fuckwad

There is no such thing. I think you are coming down now with something

>>724261307
The only "withdrawal" I've had is less appetite. Withdrawal is not a good term to use here . Withdrawal from other drugs such as benzos or opiates is alot more serious than you being a little bitch cus you cant smoke some bud.

>>724262749
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044864

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.11.1967

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/112/3/393/

http://journals.lww.com/co-psychiatry/Abstract/2006/05000/The_cannabis_withdrawal_syndrome.2.aspx

http://www.journalofsubstanceabusetreatment.com/article/S0740-5472(08)00024-X/abstract?cc=y=

Need more evidence?

>>724262842
Same

U bunch of fags

>>724263264
Do you know what propaganda is?

Weed doesn't have any real withdrawal. Unless you mean "symptoms" like irritability and weight loss, but those are only tangentially related.

>>724262842
I normally don't have symptoms, but sometimes it does happen. Everyones brain chemistry is different.

>>724262925
What are you talking about?

>>724263122
There is. Any drug that alters brain chemistry and downregulates certain receptor sites has the ability to cause withdrawal

>>724262710
Link some. I've never heard anyone claim that weed had any physical withdrawal symptoms, just things like irritability.

>>724263354
You think every single bit of research done on cannabis is propaganda? Do you only trust the articles that are written on weed blogs?

>>724261307
I smoked 1-2 g's every day for a year, maybe a Break for a day or so every now and then I haven't smoked since Halloween now, I didn't notice any withdrawals

>>724263549
Yes weed smokers always tell the truth

Weed has no withdrawal period

>>724263544
I did a few posts above. It's not like fucking heroin withdrawal. But speaking from experience and knowing chronic smokers who had to quit, there is a potential. It's not very strong or serious, but sometimes it's definitely there.

>>724261307
Fuck these kids saying there are no symptoms. Obviously talking out their asses on behalf of all smokers. I definitely experienced physical symptoms after not smoking -- after smoking heavily for 3 years (maybe 10 days off out of 365*3 days). Nausea, not being able to eat a meal for like a week. Having nightmarish dreams, depression, etc. Most of all I felt the 15 pounds that 3 years of the munchies fucking did to me.

>>724261307
>irritability
But that's just because I'm a dickhead when I'm not stoned. That's not really a symptom

>>724261307

Making people respond this hard...

10 outta 10 anon

>>724263603
People on both sides are full of shit. The government and anti drug companies demonize weed, and potheads pretend it's a wonder drug with zero side effects or even a psychological addiction.

>>724261307
>cannabis withdrawal

literally doesn't exist. I smoked every day for nearly 10 years and then I needed to quit because my company implemented a new drug policy. So one day I smoked. The next day I didn't. Zero withdrawal. You just stop.

>>724261307
Ignore the 'hurr durr but it's natural tho' retards. The withdrawal syndrome lasts two-three weeks depending on the symptoms, but within 5 or six days you should be through the worst of it, getting your appetite and clear head back. I mean this stuff varies for everyone, that's just my experience, so it might be easier or it could get a little more difficult

>>724263677
You sound like a pussy

>>724261307
If you wanna have a tolerance break you should'nt stop smoking it's simple there's two ways to smok while on a tolerance
1-.smoke a bit less every day until tolerance is low enough

2-.smoke shitty weed and save money to buy top shelf

unable to sleep, nausea and no appetite

for 2 weeks

>>724263578
>>724263748
You know that you are not the same person as everyone else? People can quit heroin without withdrawal. Just because you didn't experience any doesn't mean others can't or wont

>>724263763
Aww does baby not agree wiff meee?

>>724262842

Well then, case closed.

Go home everybody.

>>724263136
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I didn't expect that last part, well played.

>>724263816
Yeah i've struggled with lowering my tolerance. I like weed to be a psychedelic experience now a mellowing sort of buzz. Tapering down definitely seems better.

>>724261307
Shitty, gay bait thread. Go fuck yourself

>>724263903
nope

>>724263997
ty anon I try

>>724263136
I have a brand new pax 2 vaporizer and plenty of weed right in front of me but im not smoking because my tolerance was so high that vaporizing a gram did nothing for me, thats why im taking a break

>>724264056
Why do the stoners get so mad when faced with the reality that weed is a drug?

>>724264056
I dont smell b8. But maybe you're right . Thatd be a goof+gaff on ops part

>>724263823
>for 2 weeks
>all links posted >>724263264 only show withdrawal symptoms up to a week

sounds like something else. stop blaming weed.

>>724261307
OP you need to stop being such a faggot. The only people that would experience anything close to withdrawal are people who have been smoking all day every day for years, which you have stated you have not. Even if you smoked every day for a month you wouldn't experience anything close to withdrawing on an actual drug. You might not have an appetite or have trouble getting to sleep for a night or two. Stop being a faggot put your bowl down and go get a life.

>>724264189
Because it makes them uncomfortable to think they may have a substance abuse issue.

>>724264189
What

Try coming off heroin you pussies

>>724264258
Thank you

>>724263264
>http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044864
Garbage

>http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.11.1967
This one says the others are garbage

>http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/abn/112/3/393/
Garbage

>http://journals.lww.com/co-psychiatry/Abstract/2006/05000/The_cannabis_withdrawal_syndrome.2.aspx
This one is behind a pay wall (nice try, shill)

>http://www.journalofsubstanceabusetreatment.com/article/S0740-5472(08)00024-X/abstract?cc=y=
Super biased garbage

All of these take the psychological effects of discontinuing a mild antidepressants and label it "marijuana withdrawal"

You're a scientifically illiterate fag

>>724264351
Thanks for telling me how I feel man. Needed that.

>>724261307
I smoked everyday for 15 years... Never experienced any weed withdrawal symptoms...

>>724264461
THATS WHAT I FUCKIN SAID . Weed is not a drug . Try having seizures coming off xanax . Weed has no withdrawal at all compared to actual drugs.

I smoked for years, years and years, non of this "been smoking for a year" shit. Could get through an 8th every other day, when I stopped I clucked for a few days, even having my dealers number I managed to resist the urge to buy some. It's a vicious circle, one last henry, I'll stop when I go back to work Monday, never happens. Smoking messes with the brain and only makes you think it's normal after smoking, once you've stopped for a week or two it goes back to normal.
Two things I noticed when I stopped, having dreams again and I couldn't blame my laziness on being stoned. I do still miss it and the very odd occasion I share a joint with someone I hate the feeling of being stoned. Really miss doing pills aswell...

>>724264258
>there's no withdrawal symptoms
>except these withdrawal symptoms

>>724264253
well it's not weed weed it's wax, i dabbed most nights

>>724264561
AHAHAH! Saying APA is garbage whilst calling others uneducated.

>Hmm trust pothead anon
>Or trust American Psychological Association

>>724264844
>trust someone who smokes weed
>or someone who doesn't

My withdraw symptoms are as follows:
-Irritability
-I start having dreams again

why is this such a polarizing topic

fuck our education system

>>724264461
Nearly 1 year 5 months clean. My third time trying. Fuck, the withdrawal is bad.

>>724261307
>mainly nausea, irritability, and decreased energy

Just sounds like you havent blazed up in a few days.. you're well on your way to becoming a bone fide stoner deadshit, congrats

>>724264991
Every anon from a mile away came running when they saw this shitpost

>>724265065
I just start dreaming. They tend to bother me though so I start smoking again.

>>724264844
>can't read
>thinks that scientific articles are published by the site they're stored on
>doesn't understand the symptoms of discontinuing a mild antidepressant

You're obviously college educated, why don't you debunk my refutation?

>>724264917
I smoked and quit after 5 years you twat.

I am a every day smoker who hasn't been able to source in about 1.5 weeks (southern hemisphere, almost at harvest time thank fuck).

My withdrawal symptoms are only insomnia and irritability.

>>724265072
I've had other periods where I smoked heavily for weeks and then quit suddenly and experienced no symptoms. There are other things that mediate the cannabinoid receptors in your brain

>>724265205
Do you know what peer-reviewed means?
Since you can't use logic, here, just read and hush.
"Onset typically occurred between Days 1-3, peak effects between Days 2-6, and most effects lasted 4-14 days. The magnitude and time course of these effects appeared comparable to tobacco and other withdrawal syndromes."

>>724261307
you're not experiencing withdrawal, you're experiencing vitamin deficiency. Go to the gas station and pick up a Muscle Monster protein shake and you'll be fine. Also be sure to eat regularly, and all of the THC will metabolize out of your system. Drink some Smart Water (contains magnesium) for added metabolization increase.

>>724265432
>Thanks Doc!

>>724261307
The only problem with weed is running out of weed

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>>724265497
no problem, son.

>mfw haven't smoked since 2012 and still know my shit.

it lingers for maybe a couple months is fat tissue ,complete elimination requires dead cells to be replaced with new ones,psych symptoms of withdrawal often go along with nobong

>>724263763
/Thread

>>724265432
I know you're joking, but I suspected this possibility. I normally take zinc, magnesium, vitamin d and fish oil, but I ran out of all of them recently, and I do wonder how much that's contributing

>>724265365
That's from the super biased garbage. You don't understand that the peer review process for psychology and sociology isn't comparable to the other disciplines of science.

Let's not forget all the peer reviewed articles on homosexuality being a form of psychosis

>>724261307
I smoked every day for over a year, had no issues. You people are fucking weak.

>>724265432
Medifag here...this...like for real...THC binds to a receptor the body has naturally and burns sugars. THat's it...theres no withdrawal.

>>724261307
it has been a year and im starting to recover
not joking

>>724265969
I smoked cigs for a while then quit and had zero withdrawal. drugs effect people differently

one time i inhaled a marijuanas
now i violently shake at night, i throw up constantly and i haven't slept in almost three years

pot withdrawal is real

>>724265970
>THC binds to a receptor the body has naturally...
As opposed to synthetic receptors?

>... and burns sugars
wat

your neurochemistry professor isn't very good

>>724263544
>>724263544
>I've never heard anyone claim that weed had any physical withdrawal symptoms

You never smoked alot of weed. You won't be able to eat or sleep after smoking a gram a day for 2 years

>>724262710
Read the literature put out by cia and dea that have all worked wit cartels. Johnn kerry even said cia helped escabar

>>724265814
understand that I'm not joking. The human body values THC above all other things that it values enough to store in fat cells. THC is fat soluble, but the body also wants to use it immediately. This means that your body will dump everything so it can store THC! Every mineral, including salt, gets dumped. The body only needs so much of each type of mineral, and only uses a small amount of your regular intake. But your body will constantly store, and use THC. This makes THC somewhere between fat soluble and water soluble, since the body will use and store every bit it can get. It does wonders for cell repair, since Salt damages each fat cell it is stored in. Salt is the mineral your body needs the least of, but gets the most. THC will kick that salt out and start depositing itself into every fat cell acting as a building inspector for each cell. The cells that are damaged either die or get repaired after the Salt is OUT! This is why people lose weight when they smoke!

>>724266295
I just finished a tolerance break after smoking around 4g/day for a solid year. No withdrawal, just the expected irritability and mild depression you get after coming off any mild antidepressant.

>>724265970
thanks for backing me up Medifag

>>724263474
The downregulation only effect your cannabanoid receptors, and it's easily reverse able with just a month free of marijuana.
So really, your withdraws from weed is basically your body going back to normal after smoking. I.E. less appetite, better memory, and maybe a bit of grouchiness.

>>724266233
>>724266295
Bullshit....>>724266233...as opposed to an inert molecule(you fuckin chemistry genius)
>>724266295... theres people who've smoked for way more and than that and will eat, sleep, carry on a normal life and even write amazing music

>>724266535
you werent smoking 4g a day you lying retard

>>724266295
Are you fucking retarded?
Ive taken atleast a break every year or atleat every two years.
Im on a break now, the last 3 months ive smoked rso grade bho. Perhaps everyone isnt as pussy as you?
I got atleast 50 ml of rso and 30g of decent indica in my storage.. But im on a break for a couple of months

>>724266078
Same person as the no weed withhdrawal. I also smoked cigs for 9 years with no issues either. Some people are just weak.

>>724266630
That's only 3 bowls a day. What's so hard to believe there?

>>724261307
1 week

>>724266680
No one cares about your pathetic life, use google retard its no secret there are physical withdrawal symptoms with weed

>>724266861
That's a fat fucking bowl, my god

I'm starting to have that feeling that this is a troll tread

>>724266861
what are you 12

>>724266861
LOL
You gotta have a big bowl if you're packing just 3 bowls a day with 4g's.

>>724266295
what the fuck are you talking about??

i smoke more than that and all that happens to me is i get very irritated and i sweat a lot.

>>724261307

for me it starts within 3 days and lasts idk maybe a month

>>724266968
Supposed to fit a bong. I use scientific glassware to build my smoking devices because it's easier to recover the resin for hash.

>>724267071
Those are still withdrawal symptoms.
Are you fucking dumb?

>>724266968
I prefer bho, however its like black cock. Nothing Else seems todo the job once youve tried it

>>724267029
>50% correct

>>724267071

I sweat a lot from my back! Ya also I get a hot/cold feverish feeling not unlike being a little sick

>>724266861
those are thin bowls dude....I smoke every two hours or so when I'm in the green... a fat bowl, two or three if I'm smokin with the clan. sometimes I dont smoke for weeks at a time, never have I noticed anything except "boy, it would sure be cooler watchin Jessica Jones with some couch lock"

>>724267121
Just wash whatever piece you have with rubbing alcohol, dump it into an open bowl and let it dry. You don't need fucking lab equipment, it's not that fucking hard.

>>724267124
That's actually just an increased level of anxiety due to discontinuing a mild antidepressant/antianxiety

>>724267170
Oh yeah bho is fucking crazy shit totally different type of high too in my experience

>>724262886
This.

>>724266967
My pathetic life?
Well i got chronic pain.. So theres that, else im filthy rich, lives in norway, has a decent job, a farm, a gf and a large beach property..

I like it.. Dont find it pathetic at all

>>724267344
youre retarded

>>724267267

ya enjoy smoking the iso denaturing shit

>>724267344
Antidepressants make you happier. They don't keep you from sweating. You're defending a losing argument.

>>724267409
strickin up a fatty to salute your awesome life bro, stay hi my homie

so much hate itt

>>724261307
no withdrawal effects

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>>724261307
44 niggers falling for this shit.

>>724267409

kys

>>724262842
Oh well if you don't get withdrawals then I guess nobody does right? Fucking Douche

>>724263677

Hey retard. When you stopped smoking joints did you also stop smoking tobacco?

>>724261307

Smoked pretty much every day for about 6 years. Only gaps were holidays where it was fucking stupid to risk getting any and dealer being out. I decided at the end of January to stop completely and reap the benefits of not being a fucking zombie all the time. Guys, it's fucking easy but you actually have to want to stop. The 'withdrawal' symptoms last like a week maximum. Just get some sleeping tablets from the doctors, get outside, remember that place? And just do some walking or go to the gym. In regards to lack of appetite, who cares? You could probably do with losing some weight. If you need motivation Google weed withdrawal symptoms and read some of the comments on one of the websites forums, I don't remember which. It was actually that which made me finally think 'fuck this'. I felt amazing for the first few weeks. I'm still not craving weed at all but I've noticed that all of my flaws that I blamed weed for are still there, I guess I'm naturally just an unmotivated procrastinating cunt. Anyway, in summary, it's easy. Just get some sleeping tablets and keep busy.

>>724262886
This

>>724267267
>implying scientific glassware isn't easier to clean

I'm not going to go out and buy glassware that costs the same amount and performs worse. I use the glassware for more than just smoking.

>>724267448
Are you dumb? You don't get denatured alcohol from letting rubbing alcohol evaporate.

>>724267124
you claim you won't be '' able to sleep or eat '' lol

>>724261307
>How long do cannabis withdrawal symptoms usually last for moderate users?

First, you sigh. Then you go "Gee, I wish I had some more weed." And that's it. There is no withdrawal.

Trying going cold turkey when your body is used to 20 cigarettes a day. THAT will get under your skin.

>>724267476
Sweating is a symptom of increased anxiety

>your ignorance is showing

>>724267618
I mean if you just have the shit laying around, fucking go for it. But I'm sure as hell not going to the store to buy lab glass just for an 'easier' cleaning process.

>>724266999
>>724267549
Ya...I think i just fed the trolls

>>724267423
>youre
You really showed me

>>724267682
That wasn't me, I jumped in the convo with that comment, not the same anon bro.

>>724267562
I actually love my life, so no.
But hey, fuck you too nigger :)

the only negatives to weed are laziness and my affinity for hardcore ghetto rap

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ITT: people who are such pussies they have to blame a "drug" for their problems

fucking man up and get a job you fucking burnouts

>>724261307
I don't know but we're going to find out when Jeff Sessions makes it illegal, and yes that might even mean tanks and air cover. Pot is finally going to cease to be a counterculture activity in our society, finally.

>>724261307
Irritability sure, but fucking nausea?

>>724267751
It's cheaper online, but I take your meaning. The customizability is also a factor in my decision.

>>724267816
then read the entire convo next time you come in you fucking goblin i will mudrer your family you are a weak man

>>724267719
So you're saying that if I smoke weed for anything OTHER than being depressed, and I get the same effects after quitting (moderate depression and anxiety), that marijuana still has not withdrawal symptoms?

>>724262583
Typical faggot stoner
>pot has no side effects and cures death
Suck my dick.

>>724268058
I did dipshit. YOU'RE the one that assumed that I was defending the entire argument when I only stated that those were still withdrawal symptoms.

>>724262583
Then let's see you go a week without pot. You'd be a total screaming asshole about it and you know it.

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they say that you can smoke to a point where your tolerance is wrecked and you don't really get high anymore...
but try smoking till the Ol' Dirty Bastard is your hero and you only want to live like him, 13 children and all

>>724268218
but i never claimed that you don't get any withdrawal effects form it at all

give me your fucking adrtess i wi0ll skin you alive you9 little man

>>724262842
I love how stoners without any knowledge of organic chemistry, biology or even first grade math for that matter, think they know just because they get high.
not al withdrawal symptoms are immediate
cannabinoids stay in your system for far longer than the other pills you pop

here come the (you)s
but before you think of doing so, look into yourself and ask. have I ever really read a paper/study or even a book about this?
stay mad stoners

>>724268234
(not same anon)
I just went a week and the only problems I'm having is a bit of restlessness, boredom, and a slight itch to smoke.

>>724267941
You sound like a generic, boring cunt. Your midlife crisis is going to hit you really hard.

>>724261307
On the second day of abstinence you will become noticeable more hostile towards others. Lasts a few days depending on how much you smoke.

>>724261307
They stop when you get a motherfucking grip, you complete mouthbreathing cunt. Alternatively, when you FUCKING KILL YOURSELF.

>>724268404
So it's like coffee.

>>724268448
wow faggot you sound like you need some smoke blown up your ass. The anal muscle absorbs the THC.

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>>724268391

aww triggered stoner detected
keep being a pathetic loser while everyone in life passes you by leaps and bounds

>>724268071
>if I take a mild antidepressant/antianxiety even though I don't need it I'll see the same symptoms when I discontinue use?
Yes. That is exactly correct. Just because you don't need them, doesn't mean they have no effect.

>>724268277
So, you're not >>724263544
?

>>724268515
>stoners care about uptight straightfags talking shit

kek

>>724268550
I'm that guy. What do you need?

>>724268550
that is not me, notice how we type completely different

>>724261307
Chill out Slater

>>724268512
This is from experience?
FAG

>>724268578
>replies to a post
>b-b-but i dont care!

stay triggered snowflake

>>724268525
So it would make sense to label the moderate depression and anxiety as withdrawal symptoms, correct?

>>724268515
Why does everyone assume that ad soon as you get high your life is fucked?
I have a great job and is considered very normal by everyone i interact with both professionally and personal speaking.

>>724268668
nothing now.

>>724261307
Withdrawal symptoms are similar to coffee or cigarette users, however you must also take into account your own psychology. Some won't have any withdrawal effects some will, varies from person to person. May last a couple of days to a little over a week at most. I, for one, have never experienced any of the withdrawal symptoms from cannabis.

This fucking thread.

>>724268825
Glad I could help.

>>724262583
there isnt any all of these people denying this are typical suburban white boys

>>724268761
No....LIFE gives you these things, Robin Williams was loved and adored by MILLIONS of people but he still may have been saved by some cannibus, i guess we'll never know.

>>724268761
No, that makes them the logical consequences of discontinuing a medication meant to alleviate those symptoms

>>724268821
Because of society and the social stratification it places on people that use the drug. Instead of learning about it and educating ones self on the culture and the extreme variations within it, they would rather be lazy and just use bias opinions from very, very special people.

>>724268258
Why would you want your life cut short.

>>724269188
Quiet, stoner.

>>724269095
It's not medication if you're doing it recreational disphit. That was my whole point.
If you smoke weed just for fun, and you decide to quit, then you're suddenly depressed and anxious, that's fucking withdrawal.

>>724268760
>durr y u no mad

kek

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>>724261307
and the ugly people losers smell like shit and is ugly and is nark and smell like poop and still try to hurt the ugly popular people the ugly way even if the ugly people losers that smell like poop and is ugly and is nark and outnumber everybody isnt better then the ugly popular people and that is why the ugly people losers is ugly and smell like poop and is ugly and nark and outnumber everybody

>>724269379
faggot

>>724269277
Clever argument. Proud of you.

>>724269277
just like a trumpalo
telling anons to shut up when your faggot can't even

>>724269066
What my point was, is that if LIFE didn't give you those things BEFORE you started smoking, and you didn't start smoking just because you're depressed and anxious, and then you suddenly get anxiety and depression dropped on you just because you lost interest in smoking, that's a negative side effect of stopping. Or, in other words, WITHDRAWALS.

>>724261307
but iam going to let the ugly people losers that is lame and smell like poop copy me cause the ugly popular people and the people that think the ugly people losers is ugly like the asian ugly people losers and the attrative loser people cant do nothing to change it and the ugly people losers smell like shit and has to read me so the ugly people losers that smell like poop know there lame and the ugly people losers smell like shit and is lame cause get ugly help so they know that they look stupid and ugly while try to be better then me or the attrative loser people or when try to copy me and the ugly people losers smell like shit and has no friends and smell like poop and outnumber everybody and smell like shit and is ugly

I've smoked weed everyday for about 40 years, I'm 57, decided to take a break and it was quite easy, been about 2 months now, starting to jones a bit, but like ciggy's you have to want to quit. Don't feel any different, the only problem is being hungover, weed is the best cure. So I cut back on my drinking as well. Overall, no weed equals better overall health, for me anyway.

>>724269284
I guess Adderall isn't a medication because people use it recreationally too, right?

Seriously, are you suggesting that weed does not have these properties just because people smoke it for fun?

>>724262842
>What happens to me is exactly the same as for everybody else
Want to know how I know you're American?

>>724261307
and people has no idea the ugly people losers outnumber everybody and the ugly people losers smell like poop and is ugly and lame and ugly and try too hard and try to copy me and is ugly and that is why i fucken hate the ugly people losers and they smell like poop and that is why the ugly people losers is ugly

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>>724269277
telling people to shush isn't really a counterargument, anon

>>724269313
>i-i-i dont care
>replies to ever post

my god you're pathetic

>>724269561
Life never gives the feeling or insight that marijuana does without it. It's that simple.

>>724269678
says the faggot who can't handle people enjoying themselves through cannabis

you sound rather pathetic to me

3-5 days

>>724269234
depends on what you consider short I guess. I have a grandmother who is 99 and I am sure I don't want to live that long.. I don't even want to live that much longer than 40 really

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For me they usually go away within a week.. Maybe two at the very most if I've been smoking heavily.

>>724261307
and the ugly people losers smell like poop and is ugly and smart and smell like poop and that is why the ugly people losers are so fucken ugly and smart and ugly like the ugly smart and the ugly people losers smell like shit and try too hard to be better then the ugly popular people and the ugly people losers smell like poop and is ugly

>>724269593
If you're using addy to fix a problem you have, then yes it's medication. If you're doing it just to get fucked up, then no, it's not.

>>724269690
That's like, your opinion man.

>>724269531
What is a trumpalo? Like a horse?

>>724269234
If you want to tell us all that there is a demonstrably objective standard for what you must do with your life and spend your time on, now is your chance.

>>724269797
No, it's still medication, however it's then just being abused. The abuse of a medication doesn't nullify that it's still medication, that would just be silly.

>>724269740
says the faggot who can't handle life without being high

must suck to be that sad

>>724269797
You obviously don't understand what a medication is, you obviously don't understand what withdrawal is, and you obviously don't understand your brain works.

Finish highschool and we'll talk again.

>>724269678
So you say shit to him but don't want him to reply?

>>724269966
hello patrick

>>724270110
Hello Spongebob

>>724270103
he said shit to me first like a whiny stoner

Withdrawal - Physical and mental symptoms that occur after stopping or reducing intake of a drug.
Medication - a substance used for medical treatment, especially a medicine or drug.

It's amazing how many people refuse to even look shit up before they spout bullshit.

>>724270242
why are you arguing with these idiots?

>>724270323
Was directed at
>>724270073
>>724269966

>>724270323
Why argue with knowledge and facts when you can use personal bias and emotions?

>>724269561
Whole lotta "ifs and buts" there, had they been balls and nuts, we'd have a football team

>>724270371
Since when was saying hello arguing?

>>724270410
Don't know, why don't you tell me?
All i had to do was type in both words in google and that's the first thing that popped up for both.

>>724261307
"You ever sucked dick for weed? That's not an addiction....BOOO this man

>>724269901
it's like a juggalo

>>724269973
You can't handle life without telling somebody what to do.

You could probably use getting high. You'd finally stop being such an asshole.

>Smoked habitually for 10 years daily.
>Quit cold turkey
>No withdrawal symptoms
>Also not a whiney bitch though so that helps

>>724270492
I know patrick, but you're talking to all these people about this nonsense

>>724270617
lol i never told anyone what to do
i just said it was pathetic needing an illegal drug to make it through life

looks like that pot killed off more brain cells than you could spare

>>724261307
i quit and haven't felt a thing
used to do about three bowls in the winter

might be something else kiddo

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You must be a real bitch to get withdrawal symptoms from marijuana. Oh pussy ass nigga

>>724269561
point was, IF bla bla AND bla bla AND...thats a few variables that don't equate to shit nigger

>>724270804
You're telling people not to enjoy something that is a big part of their lives
you are a control freak
like Trump.

>>724270827
Wow what a well developed counterpoint, very intelligent. I like how you used the word variables to make yourself look smarter. Good job.

>>724270323
The medical definition of withdrawal is your body attempting to compensate for the lack of presence of a chemical that had altered your metabolic processes.

Marijuana does not alter your metabolic processes. Neither do most mild antidepressant/antianxiety medications

>>724270901
>something that is a big part of their lives

thank you for proving my point. stoners are pathetic whose lives revolve around a drug

now if only you could improve your reading comprehension instead of projecting your insecurities on others

fucking stoners

>>724271085
The brain has pot receptors.

And you will feel irritable and compulsive if you suddenly quit smoking pot.

Stop being a faggot about this.

>>724271085
Marijuana DOES effect your metabolism. It's the whole fucking reason you get hungry, because it boost your metabolism. Do some fucking research ffs.

>>724271216
You didn't have a point, and you've more than proven that you're some rigid puritanical type who feels the need to control what other people do with their lives.

Like Trump.

>>724271234
That's not altering your metabolism, and therefore not withdrawal.

Thanks for playing.

>>724271245
smoke enough of it and your appetitie goes away completely

getting 'munchies' is for pleb tier tokers

>>724271398
Then what is it, Professor Faglord?

I get pissy when I run out of pot. That's not me reflecting on a choice. My brain is missing the chemical high.

Stop being a total faggot.

>>724271301
once again, never said i wanted to control other peoples lives

you really are one retarded ass mother fucker. LEARN TO READ pothead

also...you're a triggered liberal...even better lol

>>724271427
Bullshit. Indica in particular causes the munchies, and it gets worse through smoking. Fuck you, you are a human being just like us and you have no special powers that make you immune.

>>724271245
>obviously doesn't understand metabolism

Those two things are at best tangentially related.

>>724271530
I read just fine. You can't handle that others don't abide by your boring black and white Donald Trump dominated world and so you lash out because you're really not in control at all.

>>724271490
It is the logical consequences of discontinuing a mild antidepressant/antianxiety medication. Why is it so hard for you to separate these two ideas?

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>>724261307
>cannabis withdraw symptoms
The fuck are you even taking about? There are no withdraw symptoms from smoking weed, tell your dealer to stop lacing your shit.

>>724271593
It's you're whole body's chemistry, particularly the ones needed to keep you alive. You know, like fucking eating.
But please, keep making yourself look stupid by doing nothing but using big words to make yourself feel better, while only trying to discredit me by saying "you don't know what you're talking about."

>>724271644
apparently you dont read just fine at all seeing as you keep going on some little anti-trump "i want to control every aspect of your life" tirade

i shouldn't expect any substantial thought process from some illiterate stoner liberal who can't face the real world without using illegal drugs.

maybe some day you'll see how things really world when you leave your mother's basement

>>724263264
Just read through one journal, I don't want to go through the rest, but the study just indicated that people that stopped smoking had an increase in areas such as "I had trouble getting to sleep, I had no appetite, I felt anxious, Life felt like an uphill struggle, I felt physically tense, I had mood swings and I felt depressed"

Do you really think that constitutes as withdrawal symptoms? That's like saying you get allergic to pollen as a withdrawal to no longer taking Benadryl.

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>>724271925
you rejoice in telling people that they're doing stuff wrong. That is one of te symptoms of being a control freak. Sorry to burst your bubble

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>>724261307
Am currently on a 7 week tolerance fast, I've felt the same since the second my last high wore off, not even phased, either your weed is shit-laced or its all in your head
>its most likely all in your head

>>724271884
I wouldn't tell you you didn't know what you were talking about if you knew what you were talking about.

Metabolism is controlled by metabolites. Metabolites are complex proteins that act as catalysts for metabolic processes. If the chemical in question does not interact with this process then it does not effect your metabolism.

I'm guessing health class is next year.

When I should take a tolerance break? I vape through a magic flight box (about 3 or 4 packings) a few times a week.

>>724272108
once again, i never said wrong. jesus christ dude. READING COMPREHENSION

i said PATHETIC.

now keep crying you little liberal. maybe some day someone will take your tantrum seriously

>>724261307
Youll get 3 days of worse sleep and one week of reduced appetite at any daily usage level withdrawal. Any longer and it is not a weed withdrawal, but another problem you are treating with the cannabis.

>>724272216
Lol metabolites aren't the entire metabolic process dipshit. You're just specifying for the sake of your own argument.

>Floridian here

Scheduled my doctor appt for next week for medical marijuana. I have autoimmune pancreatitis so they said I qualify.

>>724272659
No, they are. This is why I say that you don't know what you're talking about.

>>724261307
>cannabis withdrawal symptoms
as long as your imagination allows

>>724262842
me too, it doesnt have withdrawl

>>724261307
Wasnt a heavy smoker, but I have been smoking erryday for the past 10 months and I feared some withdrawal symptoms. Stopped like 2 weeks ago and absolutely nothing happened. Everybody is diffirent i guess.

Different on the user and their particular use rates and reasons.
The worst I could see would be a month, when any fat stored weed stuff is finished getting worked through.
Most I get is a tendancy toward migranes and back to pre-weed irratability. Leading to the desire to inject more marijuanas, and all the fun scocialogical bullshit that comes with being filled with a desire.

>>724264844
The APA and DSM are both fucked. Anyome who has looked at where their money comes from would know that.

>>724261307
That stuff's all in your head. I've been smoking almost daily for about two years, only in the evening, after all my study shit is finished.
If I go on a vacation with or if I sleep with my girlfriend, family or friends I don't smoke and I've never encountered any withdrawal symptoms.
People are different though so I don't know about your situation.

>>724272797
At best they control specific chemical interactions, or are produced by other chemical reactions, varying depending on which metabolite you're talking about.
Again, you're just specifying for the sake of your own argument, then giving no real examples of how I'm wrong.

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I don't know about withdrawl in general but I don't get horny without smoking anymore

>>724273108
unless you're an octogenarian or have other health/hormone issues, this is bullshit. quit for 3 months and see if you never masturbate or had sex

>>724273085
At days when I'm feeling more blue I do miss it and feel kind of shitty if I'm not able to smoke.
So maybe you're having withdrawal symptoms because you're not in the right mindset.

>>724273085
>>724273389
Wrong quote, I meant to quote myself, >>724273065

>I'm high af atm

>>724262710
Fuck the people that don't agree.

>>724273085
Incorrect on both accounts. Metabolites are proteins produced by your cells in varying amounts to control the rate of chemical reactions. That is what your metabolism is. You're wrong by definition, and that's why we're arguing definitions.

Once you can accept that you don't understand the words that you're using then you can accept that you're wrong and learn the proper definitions.

>>724273108
For 3 months I only fapped when I was high. Stopped cold turkey and the first sober orgasm was not pleasurable at all. Returned to normal after a 2-4 weeks though.

>>724273278
Well maybe it's another unrelated reason but I pretty much need to smoke to enjoy it. Am in my 20's.

>>724267582
Sleeping tablets.
Jew detected. Gods of /b/, please kill this thing with fire. Amen.

>>724273637
>Metabolites are proteins produced by your cells in varying amounts to control the rate of chemical reactions.
>At best they control specific chemical interactions, or are produced by other chemical reactions

How in the FUCK are these different statements? Are you fucking blind?

>>724262886
Same. Which obviously stems from your brain giving you less dopamine as its waiting for you to "hit the button" by smoking weed again.

As far as getting over it, you just need to have some fucking willpower. Make some plans to occupy your time and it'll pass in a weeks time.

I smoked way too much good shit and had an anxiety attack in the middle of me being high it fucked me up for days

>>724273863
How are they the same statement? You're defining metabolites as the chemicals they interact with and asserting that marijuana has an effect on your metabolism. You're wrong.

>>724274242
You're reading comprehension isn't very good, huh?
>At best they(Metabolites) control (not ARE) specific chemical interactions, or are produced by(not ARE) other chemical reactions

>>724273863
wow man if you cannot discern the difference_s_ (pluuuurul) between those two statements, you are incapable of critical analysis

>>724274466
hahha look at you
pot: kettle is black!
it's your reading comp that's not in evidence

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>>724261307
I've gone through severe withdrawal of benzos and a less intense withdrawal of nicotine.

I'd never compare anything I felt during my benzo withdrawals to extended (2+ month) weed tolerance breaks. Mild nicotine withdrawal is still exponentially worse.

The shit are you actually smoking? Either you've been on something more than pot, or you're just a little bitch who can't deal with life sober.

>>724263549
I don't read either. Instead I choose to look at it from a REAL scientific standpoint.

You can't trust the government because the DEA chief says he's totally open to reviewing studies, but when he's asked to check them out, he flat out refuses and throw manchild level fits, plus they have been throwing around the couch glue meme for ages, and seem to think that Indica is the only weed there is.

But also fuck the stoners, because if they aren't uneducated black rappers or comedic stereoypes rarely seen outside of film, they're also grossly misinformed about practically everything, and only use the whole weed is medicine spiel as an excuse to to get it legalized for the sole purpose of blazing themselves into a roadside ditch.

>>724274528
>>724274606
Do you know how your body makes ANY type of cell? Through chemistry.
The only other difference is he went into more detail about how they're also proteins.
But yeah, just jump on the dickriding bandwagon.

I smoked daily for a few years and decided to quit cold turkey about 3 weeks ago. After quitting i started dreaming again and also sweating a lot at night. The sweating stopped after about a week and i got used to having dreams again. During the first 2 weeks after quitting i was thinking about getting high all the time. I've been feeling like i get shit done faster but also being bored with all that free time. Now i feel just fine, sleep a lot better, cum faster, hardly think about getting high anymore. I perform noticeably better at work.

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>>724261307
come on step it up

>>724261307
"quit" weed several times just to readjust my life perspective. Usually just a week for the boredom to go away, about 2 days for the appetite to return. At least for me

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>>724275040

>>724274965
Should've mentioned i mixed weed with tobacco

>>724275200
Then you're post is to be instantly ignored by everyone.

>>724274242
Let me also make it clear how you're cutting out a massive part of the definition for 'Metabolism.

me·tab·o·lism (mĕ-tab'ō-lizm),
1. The sum of the chemical and physical changes occurring in tissue, consisting of anabolism (those reactions that convert small molecules into large), and catabolism (those reactions that convert large molecules into small), including both endogenous large molecules as well as biodegradation of xenobiotics.
2. Often incorrectly used as a synonym for either anabolism or catabolism.
[G. metabolē, change]
From: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Metabolism

Metabolism: The whole range of biochemical processes that occur within a living organism. Metabolism consists of anabolism (the buildup of substances) and catabolism (the breakdown of substances). The term metabolism is commonly used to refer specifically to the breakdown of food and its transformation into energy.
From: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=4359

Definition

Metabolism refers to all the physical and chemical processes in the body that convert or use energy, such as:

Breathing
Circulating blood
Controlling body temperature
Contracting muscles
Digesting food and nutrients
Eliminating waste through urine and feces
Functioning of the brain and nerves
From: http://umm.edu/health/medical/ency/articles/metabolism

So YES. You're specifying for the sake of your own argument. Prove me wrong, PLEASE.

faggots here that think you don't get withdrawal from weed

i drank a liter of vodka every day for about a year and i quit and didn't get a withdrawal

so alcohol withdrawal must be a myth right?

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>>724275190

>>724275999
The newer 2 generations have a fascination with glorifying weed into this solve-all-cure-all wonder drug.
Not to say it doesn't have it's uses, but god dammit it's not the Jesus plant everybody thinks it is.

>>724275999

no, you're just a liar

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>>724276199
I fucking hate the "it's not a drug it's a plant!!" bullshit. Opium and caffeine come from plants and they're definitely drugs and there's nothing wrong with that imo.

Friendly reminder that if you smoke weed you're a fucking loser who can't handle reality.

Nice to know that as soon as I post sources with the correct definition the kid just fucks off. lmao

>>724276613
Cocaine and tobacco come from plants too. Just because it grows in the ground doesn't mean it's good for you. If that were the case, then nightshade wouldn't have to be watered down to a fraction of the strength it normally has just to be useful.

>>724276199
How in the hell do you think it's going to get legalized? You have to exaggerate the shit out of it's usefulness.

It's been said by the man who setup the schedule system in the first place, that criminalizing marijuana was a case of institutional racism at it's finest. He literally admits to doing this shit to keep an eye on poor minority neighborhoods, and yet it's still illegal because people like the incredibly racist and biased Attorney General Jeff Sessions can pull whatever pack of lies he he wishes out of his ass, say it's fact, and now he has an excuse to continue fighting it. That is not fair.

I know Marijuana is not the fucking second coming of Christ, but all I want is for the government to admit that it's not the devil people have claimed it to be for the past century, and to remove it from fucking schedule 1 on the god damn drug scale.

>>724277159
The way to get it legalized is to appeal to the politicians wallets.

I will say though, that the man who designed the drug classification system isn't the one who set up the criminal aspect of weed.
The man who did that was a newspaper editor in the 50's or 60's (don't quote me on that), who had a personal vendetta against hispanics and african americans. So he falsely attributed marijuana to the cause of rape and murder allegations that were directed at them.

There are no withdrawal symptoms. Quit being a faggot, nut up and quit until you can smoke again.

>>724276674
Well reality sucks for many people. Make the world a better place and maybe people will quit trying to escape it.

>>724276674
Reality is Ted Bundy escaping from a fucking court library, only to run off to Florida to beat a bunch of college women to death with a log. He was unsupervised because why would you allow a man like that into a library unattended when he was previously America's most wanted serial killer by the FBI.

Reality is a man who minimal training with small Cessna aircrafts supposedly being able to pilot a commercial airliner, pull off an expert manuver, and then crash it into the Pentagon, destroying all sorts of documents pertaining to an embezzlement case that was going to be held just days later.

That is not a reality I want to be apart of.

>>724276674
Nice to know that you're not allowed to smoke weed just to have a good time.

>>724277943
You're still a part of it no matter what you do. The only way any of us will leave this reality is by an hero.

Is OP even still in this thread?
Hello? OP?

>>724261307
>>724262583
/thread. you're fucking retarded OP.

>>724278309
>you're fucking retarded OP.
Do some research on your own instead of listening to your biased pothead friends.

>>724262710
I've smoked pot for the last 6 years (medical condition in a legal state) and I NEVER experience withdrawal symptoms when I run out. That has literally never happened.

You're calling it withdrawal to seem "cool le epic stoner kek xD" and its fucking embarrassing.

>>724278454
>>724278457
This is what personal experience looks like, you fucking 13 year old edgelord.

>>724278457
"Let's use my own personal experience to generalize the other thousands of people who smoke pot! What a great idea!"

>>724278596
You have like 30 other people saying the same fucking thing. Is it all "generalization" if you're literally the ONLY one experiencing what you call "withdrawal"?
>which is probably just a headache for fucks sake
Kill yourself immediately.

>>724278688
So you're saying that you know for a fact that I'm the only one to ever experience withdrawals? Nice to know that some magical omnipotent being decided to grace the boards of 4chan.
Go act like a self righteous prick in /pol.

>>724263729

I know, this is some dank bait, mate.

Also, I'm high right now, so this is extra hilarious.

>>724278897
Nice to know you're a fucking retard. Theres an infinite amount of studies out there right now that prove
>with scientific data
that it is physically impossible to get addicted to marijuana. You'd know that if you knew ANYTHING about addiction whatsoever.
>which I have extensive experience with as well seeing as how I do this shit for a living

Stop feeling sorry for yourself.