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pt.2 Vaguely describe a video game plot and let others try to

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pt.2

Vaguely describe a video game plot and let others try to guess it.

>you get a very bad ending for doing something you always do in games of this type
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>>724011635
Bloodborne: beat boss, lose humanity.

Which is weird, because normally killing things gives you MORE humanity. Apparently...
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>>724011635
Firewatch
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>>724011722
>>724011725
nope
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I'm always curious to see how many people has played this god teir short game.

>old man
>inception
>origami
>rocket
>dead
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>>724011635
undertale. also, check em
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>>724011893
To the Moon?
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>>724011635
>Metro 2033

Kill all the enemies and take all the items you see, get bad end
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>>724011635
deus ex
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>>724011968
Ding. You win my friend.
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>>724011635
this applies to a shit ton of games, but I'll go with
>>724011957
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>>724011957
nailed it
>You get special magic armor for being a super special hero
>nearly every friendly person you run into turns out to be a super special hero with the super magic armor too
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>50-50 grind
>school
>"here I am, doing everything I can"
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>>724012027
Legend of dragoon
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>>724012065
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2?
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>>724012158
Ding
>>
spend four hours keeping a baby out of the fire
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>>724012080
great job

>you're a magic being that may or may not be the same person throughout the entire series. Kill 'god(s)' if you want
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>>724012244
Boku no stanley
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>>724012244
>out of
I dont think you were playing that game right.
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>Dumb ass friend turned into a pest
>collect ancient eggs
>friends still fucked after
>>
>>724011635
Conquer Europe for Wilhelm
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naked kid abusive mom
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>a sad intro that is completely nullified by the ending
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>>724012246
I think it's a trick
But I wanna say Darksiders.I didn't play the games but for little I know that's kinda what happens?
There's god of war too obviously but same as above
>>
Parents abandon you to shit school in a shit town and a shit life
>>
>>724012530
nope. its older than both of those
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>>724012479
The binding of Mods>DLCs
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>>724012549
that's no game
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>>724011635
undertale
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>>724012588
you win, too easy smh
>>
>>724012549
Bully?
katawa shoujo?
>>
>>724012314
well it's not like you could burn the baby repeatedly


next game:
everybody dies
the only winning move is not to play
>>
>make great discovery
>99% of your race is genocided for it
>must travel a great distance to find a new home for your people
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>>724012549
Bully
>>
>>724012321
Jak and Daxter.
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>wife and kid die to a ''curse''
>dive into a weird ocean vortex
>try to save the world
>eventually nothing changes
>>
>>724012658
defcon?
>>
>>724012668
>>724012642
correct
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>>724012658
a nuclear war ?
>>
>>724012658
Global Thermonuclear War. Or was it Tik Tak Toe.
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>>724012686
Dark souls 2 Scholar of From software's sin
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>>724011635
The Witcher 3 for trying to fuck everything
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>conjure daggers
>throw them at skulls
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girl robot wakes up and saves mankind from aliens.
also nice OST
>>
>Go to a mansion in the middle of the woods
>Almost become a sandwhich
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>>724012807
yeah it's DS2
>>724012820
geralt isn't married tho
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>>724012714
>>724012736
>>724012763
correct

next:
they brainwashed the strongest bad guy so that he'd kill the second strongest bad guy
it was you all along
>>
>Get water
>Kill mutants
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>>724012658
Spec Ops: The Line
>>
>>724012246
no one has it yet so ill give a hint

>this iteration of yourself is a volcanic island jesus
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>>724012889
bioshock?
>>724012900
fallout 3
>>
>velociraptor
>making drugs
>eaten every second corner
>>
>>724012889
Fallout 4?
>>
>>724012960
ARK?
>>
>>724012888
What does that have to do with anything...?
>>
>>724012889
KotOR
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>>724012955
no, but close
>>
>>724012960
sega genesis jurassic park
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you get cloned and one of your clones dies the other is a bad guy the last one is a good guy
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>Came to my uncle's house bc he sent a letter
>The cheeky fucker is dead and cthulhu is in his manor
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>>724012889
How are three different answers correct? This is a straightforward thread you're fucking up.
>>
>old man dies
>tells u to look after his plants
>>
>>724012978
>>724012990
Nope
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>>724013049
MGS?
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girl asks you to tell some aunt that everyone's dead in the intro
>>
>>724013051
Amnesia?
>>
>Send text messages into time and space
>gf is kil
>no
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>>724013106
yeah
>>
>>724013121
Resident evil 4
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>>724013160
7 I MEAN 7
>>
you have a fat italian friend who wasnt part of the deal
>>
>>724013185
was gonna count it right , didn't even read 4 xD , correct anyways
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>>724013213
Mafia II
>>
>>724013245
ding
>>
>>724012658
Call of Duty
>>
>>724011635
What is Dishonored?
>>
>>724012982
CORRECT

>>724013060
you are unfamiliar with the subject matter

~~~~~~~~~
next:
good on you if you save the day
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>best friend becomes a demon and rapes your gf
>revenge
>revenge
>revenge
>>
>>724011635
Spec Ops: The Line?
>>
>Kill your old friends
>Save your family
>Get killed
>>
>Be a zombie
>kill myself as a zombie to save the world
>>
>>724011635
You hav to kill ur old friends to or ur family get murdered
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>>724012246
Fuckin Zelda
>>
>>724013313
This is berserk though
>>
>be porch monkey
>hentai superpowers
>muh kid
>>
>>724013329
>>724013343
>>724013335 (Undead Nightmare)

Red dead Redemption

By the way , RDR 2 is coming
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>>724013335
dying light-whatever the fuck the expansion was called
>>
>>724011635
Ur getting brainwashed by a WW2 vet to kill some dudes
Creepy...
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>>724013408
nope.

another hint
>drink potions that make you better at making potions to drink potions that make you better at making potions to-
>>
>>724013472
>>724013452
nope, and nope.
>>
>>724013524
SKYRIM A
>>
> Punch reporter in face
> Fuck everyone that moves
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>>724013277
You're a newfag
>>
Black man gitz to be kangz of the hood and kill da corrupt police mang n crack dealerz n shiet
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>an edgelord meets a meta edgelord and finds out he is the reincarnation of the meta edgelord's hyper edgelord brother
>one of the bad guys is really the demon clone of your mom and not really a bad guy
>your dad is a sword bruh
>make your way through religious insane fantasy island using nothing but one liners
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>>724013556
The Witcher
>>
>>724013545
Damnit

Would fit 10000%
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>>724013277
>~~~~~~~~~
why are you posting this stupid shit?
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>>724013556
GTA
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>>724013554
no but close
>>
>>724011893
heavy rain?
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>>724013578
devil may cry
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>>724013623
OOOOOOBLIVION
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>huge hangover
>can´t remember what happened
>get through a normandy disembark, alien...even bullfighting to know what happened
>doesn´t matter because at the end you get to be king
>yfw all you wanted was to get to the hot chick and have a beer
>feels
> :(
>>
>>724013582
Run into many reporters while trekking through skellige?
Also nope.

>>724013609
Nope
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>>724013313
Postal?
>>
>>724013568
you're unfamiliar with that subject matter too

>>724013596
to divide responses from the clues
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>owa tanna ba fope gowanni
>bewanta ko gowanni fa magra doarpo
>tomi torray gowanni pasha
>...?
>gowanni foopa
>>
>>724011635
>You're a pirate and mostly insult people.
>>
>>724013646
nope
>>724013702
conkers
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>>724013639
Yep
>>
> play as some guy who searches for his mentaly unstable friend
>also play as guy hunting above mentioned guy
>save dude from his crazy friend
>crazy fuck takes control of almost the whole universe
>to be continued

yeah the campagin wasn't realy that great.
>>
>>724013742
Yup it´s conkers :D

godspeed anon
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>>724013575
GTA:San Andreas
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>>724013793
Correct
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>>724013646
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkeC9WVVsQ4
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>>724013771
Saints Row 4?
>>
Ball moves seesaw pulls string strikes match lights rocket hits mouse cage turns belt released jack-in-the-box etc.
>>
>>724013771
Where's the Edge?
>>
>>724013771
Black ops 3
>>
>>724013277
extra clue for this one:
kill bhaal's children before they kill you
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>>724013874
Oh, is that what hapends there?
Maybe my description was a bit to vague.
>>
>>724013882
Lemmings
>>
>>724013556
What is mass effect
>>
>"Riders of the storm "
>Drifting in a Hummer
>>
>A guitarrist
>Play the fuckin right buttons!
>Become's a avatar when's edgy
>>
>>724013864
YFJ YFJ YFJ
>>
Blow people up.
Drop dead friends from the sky.
Stick to cars and get dragged around.
Crazy head on ladders.
>>
use the boost to get through
you're becoming a better pilot
>>
>>724013864
Thats what i had in mind when i was typing
>>
>>724013956
Nope.
>>
>>724013971
Nfsu2
>>
>>724013771
Halo 5
>>
>>724014056
do a barrel roll
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>gf dead
>take her to banned place
>"i can rez her, but u gotta help me out"
>"kill these monsters for me plz"
>kill some
>eat lizards
>kill some more
>eat some fruit
>kill the last few
>become monster
>forced to take bath
>become baby
>gf wakes up
>has to take care of your baby ass now
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>>724013874
>>724013895
>>724013900
I just realised that this seems to be a rather comon thing in vidya
>>
>>724013966
Bingo!
>>
>>724013735
MOnkey island
>>
>>724014078
at last
>>
>>724013423
yeah and it has two games so it counts
>>
>>724014039
Just Cause
>>
>>724014110
SotC
>>
>>724014265
bingo bango boingo.
>>
>crash car
>your party gets cancelled
>boss threatens you with gun
>no one ever listens to you
>get shot
>woman you love abandons you
>>
I really want to play Conker's Bad Fur Day on my tablet but so far, none of the emulators on playstore can run the game smoothly. Most of them are just the rip off of Paul 's Mupen.
It's amazing how difficult it is to emulate any nintendo console on mobile device yet it is easy to emulate all sony consoles.
>>
>>724014301
It was rather too well explained
>>
>>724014088
correct

next:
the best weapon in the game is a shovel
somebody buried the shovel
>>
>>724014241
No.
>>
>>724011778
spec ops: the sandining?
>>
>Fight villains in prison city
>Kill big villain on accident
>>
>>724014039
Now I got it. GOAT SIMULATOR.
>>
>>724014375
Arkham City
>>
>>724014404
correct
>>
>>724014387
yep
>>
>>724014110
Shadow of Colossus
>>
>Get irl friends
>Play game
>Guy from 300
>Play game for serious
>Loose friends
>>
>>724014335
Shovel:The Game
>>
>>724014335
shovel knight?
>>
>>724014110
Almost said Dante's Inferno but that's gotta Shadow of the Col.
>>
>Emo bad-ass guy
>Emo bad-ass guy find his brother
>Emo bad-ass guy fight with his brother
>Emo bad-ass guy find emo cute girl
>Emo bad-ass guy fight with emo cute girl
>Emo bad-ass is not a human
>>
>electric man
>but it rain
>oh shit ?
>russians
>get neked
>lie
>>
>>724014646
we already had DMC on this thread bruh...
>>
>>724013060
Because op is a faggot retard who wants to hand out awards to other faggots for just showing up.
>>
>scare porcupines
>eat bugs
>bone slides
>dad is kill
>annoying apes
>get big
>some lava shit
>dramatic revenge
>>
>>724014653
LA Noire
>>
>>724014724
nope
>>
>>724014724
How the fuck did you get LA noire out of that?
>>
>>724014312
Darkness
>>
>Smart Monkeys
>Time Monkeys
>Get Monkeys
>Save evolved Monkeys
>>
>>724014758
top kek
>>
>>724014511
>>724014524
nope and nope
the shovel is a secret
you find clues to the location
the rest of the game is about heroes
>>
>>724014775
No. I don't think anyone will get this one.
>>
>>724014825
Shovel Hero

Now fuck off and die
>>
>>724014653
clue:
>you'll never escape the..
>>
>>724014908
I got it.

Kileak, the DNA Imperative
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>>724014955
noooope
>>
>>724014908
Black Ops 2?
>>
>>724014955
game looks cool asf however
>>
>A magic time travelling disembodied female voice kidnaps a red nigger and teaches him to hunt dinosaurs with scoped bows and energy nukes
>what the fuck was actually going on in this game anyway?
>>
>>724015040
noooope

someone will get it, i made it 2 ez
>>
>>724015057
Turok?
>>
>>724014861
still nope
the mayor is a slut
your dad dies at the start
your sister is blind
>>
>>724015057
turok
>>
>>724012874
resident evil
>>
>>724012246
morrowind
>>
>>724014646
>non-emo guy
>non-emo guy finds cute girl
>she just turned legal in many places ;)
>also get some other friends
>non-emo guy finds his brother
>non-emo guy is not a human
>becomes emo guy
>friends say "no emo"
>non-emo guy again
>all fight guy's brother
>also basically half the world dies
>>
>>724015106
Fable
>>
>>724014822
Niggers:The Game
>>
>be female with an incredibly stupid name
>story is really fucking vague, so there's basically no explanation as to why you suddenly start lighting shit on fire with your mind
>turns out that you have really fucking mutated mitochondria that basically turns you into a weeaboo jedi
>grow glowing wings and blow up a tanker ship that has become home to Tetsuo after he turns into that weird blob monster
>Never get a good explanation of what the fuck is happening because gooks write stories like shit.
>>
>>724015057
Dude Turok Seeds of Evil. Shit gave me nightmares as a kid.
>>
>>724015233
CORRECT
good stuff

next:
better nerf irelia
>>
>Play as Sergeant in middle of war zone
>Monsters killing everyone
>Allies keep dying around you
>>
>>724015317
Parasite eve?
>>
>>724015318
>>724015115
>>724015102

Win guys... But srsly, what the fuck was happening in that game series?
>>
>>724015349
League of Skin Chromas
>>
>>724015315
Europe?
>>
>>724015417
Yep.

... still haven't figured out what the fuck the "mitochondria bullets" were supposed to be...
>>
>A snake find a great boss
>In the middle of the game you have a incredile plot-twist
>Snake is blind of a eyeball
>>
>>724014908
>>724014653
ne tekkerz?
>>
>i wear my sunglasses at night
>"i want my skullgun"
>maintenance man conspiracy "but i wanted orange"
>everyone's an ass but my brother
>>
>>724015430
Who knows. I think they just wanted to make an extremely ridiculous game. They're based on comics too. Play the newest one. It's pretty good.
>>
>>724015528
MGS3?
>>
>>724015565
Yes,ow,that was quick,hahaha
>>
>>724012514
fallout 4
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>>724011635
UnderTale
>>
>>724015439
correct

next:
japanese corporate empire holds tournament in bid to control devil gene
>>
>>724015591
Snake and boss... dead giveaway
>>
>>724015559
If they brought back that fucking skull bore gun that shoots hornets that drill into your fucking brain, I'm in.

That was the best weapon ever.
>>
>A meh fight game
>There's people that fight with animals
>>
>>724015539
shadows of the damned?
>>
>>724011635
>be my
>be colect an egg
>friend falls and is little friend
>haha lets collect more egg
>girl enginere
>she gives cool item
>thanks i will use for collect more egg
>>
>>724015539
reinstalling
>>
>>724015612
Tekken
>>
>>724015678
Already had Jak and Daxter
>>
>>724015639
It's not as ridiculous, they went with a more realistic seeming approach. That guns not in it. Basically the knife is all you need or use. Its a one hit kill on most dinos.
>>
>>724013524
morrowind, you cannot abuse potions for alchemy in V. also you can kill vivec in III
>>
>>724014312
>>724014721
>>724015185
>>724013882

None can get?
>>
>>724015389
Nigs. Guess on this.
>>
>>724013140
Steins gate.
>>
>>724014014
brütal legend?
>>
>>724013882
The incredible machine
>>
WW1
>>
>you were a kid picking pockets and running messages
>now you are foiling a dark god's plan
>and being scared shitless by the undead
>>
>>724015917
Yeah
>>
>>724015752
Boo.

Insane weapons was the fun of Turok.
>>
>A Samurai and that guy from Léon:The Professional in France
>Aliens start to come
>The 2nd is better
>>
>find giant weapon
>robot says use it to save universe
>other robot says it will destroy mankind
>>
>>724015911
No
>>
>>724014653
>>724014908
another clue:
>I've never met you
>your eyes
>>
>>724015888
Prototype 2
>>
>>724011635
you que for comp, then suddenly everyone is dps, fuck switching, fuck it we lost boys, this ends my winning spree ty, fuck tanks and fuck healers
>>
>>724015655
nope
it is a true classic btw
>>
>>724016040
11/10
>>
>>724016001
Still fun as fuck. Check it out.
>>
>memes
>pudding
>amnesia
>innuendo
>>
>>724015648
bloody roar
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>>724016040
Git gud
>>
>>724016023
sounds like halo
>>
>>724016007
Onimusha
>>
3 orphans go around stealing money and a book from people
>>
>>724016037
No
>>
>Game based in WW1
>>
>>724015966
thief 1
>>
>>724016171
Battlefield 1942
>>
>>724016171
Mafia 2
>>
>>724016208
>WW1
>1942
...fucktard
>>
>>724012661
Homeworld
>>
>>724012246
Devil may cry
>>
>demom on the path of becoming the strongest being to ever exist by consuming his victims after beating them in a fair fight
>versus
>a high school girl who trains to fight like a ninja as a hobby when she's not looking for dick
>demon loses because the girl's kunai are OP
>>
>you fuck around with a charm with ur friends and get stuck into a parallel universe and try to get out
>>
thank you
>>
>>724015712
correct

next:
the government is watching
you watch for the government
thought blows things up
you watch the thoughts
hacker watches the thoughts
hacker watches you
thought watches you
the government watches you
you pull the plug
>>
>be dead
>robot wakes you up
>Shit's fucked
>Get your ass to the Moon
>kill massive faggot who thinks he's David Koresh
>His dad finds out and griefs the fuck out of you
>Get the fuck to Saturn
>Fuck dad up by invading the retard dimension
>>
>>724016242
willywonka.jpg
>>
>>724016208
kys
>>
>Game based on WW1
>FPS
>>
>>724016171
Verdun
>>
>>724016186
Bingo
>>
>>724016332
That game is fucking horrible. Fuck you for even mentioning it.
>>
>run around killing monster looking shit with flame throwers
> say dumb shit like "kill em all, let god sort em out"
>also, be bruce willis
>>
>>724016129
Correct

New one:
>kill sand niggers
>accidentally kill more sand niggers
>feels
>>
okay I got one

it's of orcs and men
>>
>>724016171
More recent than most games on here so far
>>
>>724016523
Spec ops: the Feels
>>
>>724016364
see
>>724016345
>>
>>724016531
LOTR 3rd Age?
>>
>everyone hates you
>the land itself wants to kill you
>weather tries to kill you sometimes
>even stray dogs are chewing your ass off
>people you meet tell you to GET OUT OF HERE
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>>724016531
Ha, ha. Every thread. So clever. So funny.
>>
>underated
>be ninja
>do fucking awesome steath kills and geenerally just murder the fuck out of people.
>>
>>724016115
No
>>
>>724012843
Devi daggers?
>>
>>724016142
Which one?
>>
>>724016679
Sounds like my life
>>
>>724016498
Fuck that game to hell. top 5 shittest games ever
>>
>>724016679
Fallout 4
>>
>>724014653
>>724014908
>>724016031
no one gets it?
>>
>>724016751
The one with
>A Samurai and that guy from Léon:The Professional in France
>>
>>724016702
Never played it, but Tenchu?
>>
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>>724016726
Correct. I didn't expect anyone to get that.
>>
>>724016838
winner
>>
>>724016559
Correct

>trailing mission simulator
>>
>>724016777
Nope
>>
>you are the bad guy
>my treasure
>die knight fgt
>>
>>724016852
I'm an edgy kid
>>
>>724016926
Dungeon keeper
>>
>>724016967
Correct !
>>
>A beat'em up based on a fight game
>There's a Charmander-Bruce Lee and a chinese Fedora with blades
>>
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>>724016964
>>
>>724017014
Sounds like the dumbest fucking cuck of game i have ever heard of
>>
>>724011978
Chrono trigger
>>
>>724016498
apocolypse. aids
>>
>>724012661
starbound?
>>
>Paper Crafting: The Game
>>
>>724016890
Helpful clue
>no guns
>famous people help you
>>
>>724013702
the hangover 2?
>>
>Sociopaths with cars in a race
>BOOM,KAPLAM,SPALSH
>BOOM
>BOOM
>WHERE THE FUCK THAT CAR IS GOING?!
>>
>>724016672
nope

>>724016697
what
>>
antique weapons and carpentry
>>
>>724013313
Dante's Inferno? JK never played it
>>
>>724017536
>the title of the game is ....
>guess what it's called
Has never been funny and will never be.
>>
>>724017467
Carmageddon
>>
>>724011635
Undertale
>>
>>724016289
Super hot?
>>
>Based on a anime
>Is the best fight game of PS2
>>
>be guy or girl
>wage campaign against your own glorious legacy
>shoot everything for some reason
>bugs wait like 10 seconds to bite you
>why is there all this fucking felt in my face
>>
>>724018073
street fighter 2
>>
>>724017627
Exanima?
>>
>>724018196
no
>>
>>724013702
conquers bad fur day
>>
>>724018174
>Is the best fight game of PS2

>Street Fighter 2

No,isn't
>>
>>724016833
it was mgs2


you guys suck
im out
>>
>>724018638
I don't see how most of those clues relate to MGS2 even now you told us.
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