When did you realize that liberalism is a cancerous ideaology

Civilization is a liberal idea. Conservatism is tribal warfare.

>>723999707
>not being a sovereign citizen

>>723999707
when I was 10. Now that I'm 36 I realize that civilizations are brought down by stagnation, too much swing to one direction, and cronyism.

Legit question, why are like 99%+ of conservatives scientifically illiterate? I've only ever met one dude that called himself a conservative that wasn't completely retarded.

>>723999707
when I grew up

>>723999707

When i grew up and threw the TV out of my room.

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>>724000405

>Legit question, why are like 99%+ of conservatives scientifically illiterate?


That's a great bait, guaranteed replies. Usually seen on Facebook.

Many such cases.

>>723999707
>>723999707
Modern liberalism isn't liberalism. Read a book retard

>>723999912
Edgy/10 - try harder.

>>724000405
Blanket anecdote/10 - nty fam

Lets chill gents..

>>724000405
If you ran into 1 asshole today, then you ran into an asshole. If you ran into a bunch of assholes...then your the asshole.

>>723999707
When a black man fucked my wife/sister who didn't love me and I couldn't do anything to save face in front of my cunt kids/nieces and nephews.

>>724000405

because conservatism requires you to stay stagnant, and hang on to the old ways of the past. even if these old ways are wrong and outdated and scientifically illiterate.

its right in the name.

>>723999707
When im 17 or so

>>723999707
This looks like it should be a painting

>>724000322
24 yo here
/thread
I don't even feel like reading the rest of the thread.

>>723999707
I didn't, and ever have. But I do grudgingly realize that liberals definitely have some good ideas that don't necessarily translate well into the real world.
Which is why we need liberalism as much as we need conservatism, or anything else.

two sides of the same coin, my friends.

>>724000405
Because science is hard.. and it doesn't profit well.

Also, the "I-got-mine" generation won't be around long enough to see it go to shit, hence why most are conservacucks who want to watch the world burn for money and youngfags are libtards who want to save it with oldfag money.

>>724000405
I've met lots of conservatives who are scientifically literate and many who are scientists. Of course they aren't GW deniers, they just believe in a smaller government, and shootin guns. I'm very liberal, but two of my roommate are registered repubs and self asserted conservatives, yet we have civil and productive political discourse every day. Its the sensationalism of the media and the toxic divisiveness of our mainstream culture that is the reason that we can't all get along. It seems to be an american phenomenon that otherwise rational people like to stereotype everyone else on the other side based on the extreme faggots who make up a small minority of that side.

>>724001500
Ridiculous. Look who they elect. Conservatives are ignorant or evil, or both.

>>724001587
well in fairness neither of them voted for trump, but that's a pretty broad generalization. There are some admirable conservatives: olympia snow, ronnie (to an extent; he was kind of a wannabe fratboy) and a few others

>>724000405
Possibly because colleges are overwhelmingly liberal. So people with education tend to get swung in the liberal direction when they go to college, because that is an impressionable period in life. So that begs the question, why are colleges overwhelmingly liberal? Well, possibly because professors are overwhelmingly liberal.

Now why are professors overwhelmingly liberal? Well, possibly because the personality traits that lend itself to be a professor (high openness and low conscientiousness) are the same ones that liberals have.

>>724001792
Also, the college lifestyle is a lot more communal, in college folks are forced to interact with lots of people on a daily basis and often have to share living spaces and resources with others, making them more empathetic to what others are going through. As people get older and spend less time with others, they care more about themselves and their possessions and less about the wellbeing of the world. Science doesn't matter when its snowing in your backyard. You'll be dead soon, and you could give a fuck about that which you aren't experiencing

>>724001381
I'll add that I don't believe liberalism is bad. It's just a part of the whole that is human society.

I was called out on /pol/ for saying this but l'll say it again: change is historically positive. /pol/ says that's "whig history" and false, but /pol/ can shove it up their ass. The human population has exploded: 7 billion people overall gained in the last 150 years is positive change to me—despite the common world problems of hunger and other BS.

Whether or not we can blame liberalism or technology or w/e is up to each individual and not the whole. Grow the fuck up and stop thinking like a sheep. It's not all as simple as black and white, "hur dur, liberal bad and conservative gud"

Stop eating your fucking burgers, and drinking cola. Eat healthy and inexpensive food, and drink water. Stop worrying about the fucking fluoride in you water. It's hard to believe how many dumbfucks are on a monthly subscription to diabetes: $200/yr so you can god damn poison yourself. What does eating have to do with anything? You figure it out, fucker.

>>723999912
fpwp, gfy, kys, etc. etc.
>>724000405
"Legit question, why are like 99% of [insert group here, but we will use niggers] scientifically illiterate? I've only ever met one..."
Bias. Also "conservative" is a broad term that might mean a FUCK load of things.

Hmm i think we can go ahead and discard the votes of people who are voting against voting

>>724003711
lol buttmad conserviturd mewling with impotent rage

>>723999707
I want that jacket the one dude is wearing in the background

>>723999707
I think it was around the time they banned "merry Christmas"

>>723999707
>>>/pol/

Get the fuck out of /b/, sperg.

>>724000000

once I got my first job

>>724002416
>Eat healthy and inexpensive food
anon pls.
>implying the vast majority of people don't see the time it takes to actually prepare the food in order for it to be cheap AND healthy as time wasted
You don't get prepackaged, cheap, healthy food. That's a huge reason people are overweight.

>>723999707
I dont know, when did you relise that conservatives will luck us up in a endless circle of strving twords the "good old days" that never existed? Both sides are retarded, people are retarded overall, we make stupid decision based on very little information

>>723999707
>ideaology

The only people who have any excuse to oppose liberalism are fundamentalist religious idiots, and they're fucking retards.

If you don't like it, tell us what's wrong with it. And don't come out with some bullshit about SJWs with dyed hair, because they're not representative of liberalism.

Did your God tell you freedom is sinful?

>>724000405
where do you live?

ITT: /pol/, Russian Shills.

Sage. Don't get trolled newfags

>>724008958
Yeah, conservatives are just yesterday's liberals. Ask them what they think of the last generation's liberal ideas that have become mainstream, and they'll normally agree with them.

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>MFW eradicating liberalism is enshrined in the constitution of the Russian Federation. Go back to Moscow, faggot. /b/ belongs to America.

pic related; it's one of the Moscow Apartment Bombings. Too bad you weren't in it.

>>724010569
this. we all know the russians are here, theyve been on pol spewing there shit, now they are here. Which is fine or whatever, or just dont want any newfags thinking any of it is actually real. We aren't of bunch of facsists that wanna
>put trannies in camps
>kill niggers

That shit is just cray. Don't fall for it newfags. inb4
>russian conspiracy

Our very own intelfags confirmed it.

Liberals want to give you shit - healthcare, reproductive rights, education, legal pot

Conservatives want to take away shit - healthcare, reproductive rights, education, legal pot

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>>724000405
>>724000903
>>724000987
>>724001005
>>724001500
>>724003711

>>724009388
/thread

>>723999912
Did you ever read something about it? Civilization is a socialist idea. Liberalism is tribal warfare. Conservatism is keeping everything as it was 100 years ago.

>>724010790
>industry and chemistry are the only ones with less than 50% dems
Kek. Sounds about right.

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>>724010933
>Civilization is a socialist idea
We have a guy working on ending it

>>724002416
Change is good, but we're not really changing in a good way, we're reverting back to the shit that was bad about society.

We're in a fucked position, we have the alt-right on one end who aren't much better than nazi's, and then we have the extreme left on the other end who are also fucking horrible.

There seems to be no middle ground anymore. It's either, fuck niggers and muslims or if she accused you of rape, you did it. Plain and simple and you should be treated like a rapist.

>>724011022
still more than republicans

>>724011070
That's more because of sensationalism in the news and politicians doubling down on their demographic instead of, I dunno, actually working together for the good of ALL of the people. It's ALL just "muh party line" anymore.

>>723999707
Liberalism is a FASCIST ideology that brings down civilizations.

Fix't it for ya, OP

>>724001121
If that was true, you'd evolve to the point you end up destroying & killing yourself.

"Outdated, Old=Not New=Holding Back Progress."

Such a dense way to look at life.

You're the same person who buys all the new shit for 10x the price & claims it cures every problem you had before.

>>724011149
I thought that too, but the fact that these two groups can actually get some crazy changes in place shows that they have fucking power and it's not just sensationalism.

>>724000405
The creator created this world!!!! Fuck your science EARTH IS FUCKING FLAT PEOPLE'S

>>724011070
because there was never a middle ground, it's something that the liberals and middle-right made up to make their retarded feforms seem more inteligent. There is also no such thing as a "middle ground" because your political ideas can be diferent depending on the subject, the only thing there is are sane and insane ideas, one's have a probobility of working and other's dont. But now, because the "middle" has faild everyone but the influncial, most people are pushed into extreams because they dont know what to do, it's no suprise that when both the liberal and the conservative fucks you over you turn to nazis or communists, because they seem like the people who want to clean the shit up and change something. Too bad they never do

>>723999707

nobody in this thread is going to take to the streets

ever

you idiot babs don't even know what the fuck the faggot OP pic is from

>>724011184
I didn't say it was JUST sensationalism. But the fact that stories that get the most attention are the most sensational leads news organizations to NOT put forth things that aren't. The news isn't about educating and informing, it's about profit and narrative. The problem is, it's fucking difficult to get unbiased anything, because fucking EVERYTHING is a political stance nowadays. People are brands (facebook, twitter, etc) and the need to fit in seems to keep escalating to more extreme views.

>>724011396
Of course not. I'm just a cynical asshole who's waiting on the first country to hit that big red button, so I can break out the marshmallows and say "told you so."

anti-intellectualism and retarded blind nationalism will destroy this country. Thanks GOP.

>>724010790
do you realize that 90% of "scientists" are lazy asses which get funded by the state or other organisations to swing their balls every day?
what a surprise they like liberals more, conservatives would stop feeding these lazy asses.

take a guess who successful CEOs prefer, people who usually managed something in their life

>>724011532
Add to that identity politics and a obsesive refusal of both sides to talk to each other and you got it

>>724011555
son, you went full retard.

>>724000405
There's a few fucking crazy libs on twitter I follow for a laugh. All ugly, fucking fat, believing in dragon bullshit weaboo faggots. Yet these people who thinking being 70 pounds over weight, who constantly talk about Warcraft and slightly sprinkled man ass, these are the people wondering where conservatives are on science. Then they treat bill nye like a fucking hero.

>>724011555
>scientists
>lazy asses
I take it you faild college and decided to get a education is something "usefull" like "how to maximaze the profits of the share holders while at the same time minimizing every possible expanse"? CEOs are probobly the most useless people in the world, even the fucking NEETs contribute more to society

>>723999707
Liberalism is in fact by definition about promoting freedom. Enjoy your second wave fascism.

>>724011638
I mean... He is, though. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to get kids to WANT to learn shit?

>>723999707
>ideaology

case closed

>>724001073
You're *

>>724001487
>Science doesn't profit well
Who even are you?

Libertarianism trumps all. Just freedom to do shit you want. Want an abortion? Fine. Want a gun? Fine. This is what USA should about be. FREEDOM

>>724011819
No trump pun intended

>>724011570
yeah. the two party system is fucked. there will never be a civil war. that wont happen, we too lazy.

But, people will push against outside threats. Don't forget, we are amerifats, and yeah, we do have guns. Even liberals.
>be me, liberal with a gun

So if the ruskies wanna become our overlords I tell em good luck. There are a lot of people here willing to defend themselves and their
>freedums

I guess we can count on the rednecks for that. Reagan would be shitting in his grace rn, (if he actually cared about stuff like this), if he knew the "commies had their damned dirty hands all over teh purity of our election process"

>>724011730
not as hard as people make it out to be, see the idea is to twist and turn the things you want to teach the kid so that it fits in his head while retaining the information, not the other way around. Learning at a young level needs to be fun and interesting. It's something most teachers dont get for some reason

>>724011555
russia, pls go, we aren't buying your shit.

>>724011730
He's not really. Is he seriously a "scientist"? What's his field of research, the asshole of a 7 year old boy?

>>724011683
That's what they voted for, and that's what they want. Read The Authoritarians by professor altemeyer.

>>724011160
Liberalism is almost the opposite of fascism.
>>724010933
>Liberalism is tribal warfare
Explain?

>>724011780
russian shill my man, dont feed the troll

>>724011637
>>724011657
>>724011854

german here
business graduate (u guessed right)

you three are cancerous. there is a place called facebook for you, please dont throw around your mental diarrhoea here too

>>724011881
yes. google him. also what the other anon said, he got kids stoke about science. We like science in our country.

Comrade.

>>724011555
those fucking scientists, in their faggy white lab coats with their feet up on the desk napping all day
i hate those fuckers

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>>724011967
Ivan, fuck off back to /pol/

>>724011906
>Liberalism is almost the opposite of fascism
kek. did you drop out in elementary school? censoring of free speech, disturbance of political enemies - both characteristics of fascism and liberalism

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>>723999707
>When did you realize that liberalism is a cancerous ideaology that brings down civilizations?
Around 26 or 27. Took me untill after I was 30 to really come to grips with it.
I'm almost 40 now.
Libs hearts are in the right place, they are just misguided. It's a lack of life experiences really
It's a progression, for most people.
You kids will come around. You'll see.
>We've been your age, you haven't been our age tho.

>>724011967
>business
god damn it, well have fun with your actuall useless degree and the knowledge that almost everyone with a bit of traning could do your job. Im gone chill in my STEM feild and do something that has a impact on the world

>>724011834
That's the ideal on an individual basis, yeah. Gets difficult when you stuff 40 individuals into a room and are told they need to test well in <x>.
The reason most teachers don't get that is because the emphasis is on tests. Currently, school teaches repetition, which isn't conducive to actually thinking for yourself.
We need to solve education first, but it's not going to be easy to do.

>>724011881
He's an engineer I believe

>>723999912
Fpbp

>>724011881
He's a mechanical engineer or something, but dedicated his life's work to science.
Kys comrade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvYhu5m7Yh0

>>724012033
Incorrect. That's not what liberalism is. At best that's the right's strawman version of liberalism. Liberalism is about freedom and equality. The only people who don't like that are fascists.

>>723999707
Once I graduated from high school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70WorEgphZU

>>724012171
this.

>>724012048
>i'm old and wise lol
Nah, you just turned dumber actually, too set in your ways.

>>724012171
>>724012121
these, fuck off Russia, back to /pol/ with you
As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel inclined to counter the russian spamming machine our intelbros informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this pasta in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, inconsistent knowledge of our culture and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanied with crazy ass ideological statements. The content of their posts vary, from both pro trump to anti trump, but the tone of the message is consistent: extremism. It's "Fuck Trump, burn the city down" or it's "Fuck lefties, niggers, fags and women." It is an organized effort to create division among our citizenry.

Most of us don't really care about american politics. The board is being targeted by a foreign entity, same as during the campaign. Our own intelligence agencies confirmed it and they are prolly watching this shit too. Hey there NSAfags.

Anons we are a bunch of fuck ups, half of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of genocidal maniacs who endorse the targeting of entire groups of people just because of their race, nor are we into burning down cities to protest the current administration or starting another fucking war. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb fucks. We don't care enough about this type of stuff to give a fuck. THAT'S HOW WE CAN TELL IT'S YOU DOING IT RUSSIA. You're too over the top about shit.

Our intel agencies are our best defense atm as our WH is currently a raging dumpster fire and our media sucks. I don't consider myself at all patriotic, (and fuck the police still), but these fucking russians are still here. They are BEING PAID TO spread shit all over this board and it's retarded, Fuck off cunts.

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>>724012333
pasta trips of truth

>>724012171
Fuck off nigger. Liberalism hasn't been that for 15 years.

Liberalism is a anti-white, authoritarian, victimization

>>724012387
you smell like vodka

>>723999707
Liberalism

Liberalism
> Globalism > U.N. > Militairy "support" in the middle east > War& Death

Liberalism
> Anti-Convertatism > Bigotry > False information > Voilence & Riots > anti-fa scum

Liberalism
> Anti-Facism > Generalizations > Suspect growth of Facism > Voilence & Riots > Oppress freedom of Speech

Liberalism
> Vague distinction between Human Rights and Abnormalities > Oppression of Minor to Major > Voilence and Mass-hysteria/paranoia

Liberalism
> Higly sensitive for normative views > outcasts grouping up > Vandalism, Hate-Speech

Liberalism
> Only hides behind mainstream media if its influnced by leftist views > Become the public judge to fake and real news > Censorship off the media.

Liberalism
> Fail, after Fail, after Fail.

Liberalism
> You can make an endless list to prove why modern (post-80's) Liberalists are the actuall terrorists and should be wiped out.

>>724012334
If you look at national averages today, the raving of a cypholitic cuck do not hold up today

>>724012333
Thanks but what does all this have to do with Bill Nye being the science guy?

>>723999707
When i learned about the migrant crisese

>>724012387
Bullshit. Anyone anti-white or authoritarian is not liberal, no matter what you or they say. Retards don't get to hijack liberalism so easily. Anyone from the west should be proud of their culture's liberal ideals, not shit on them just because some idiots with dyed hair posted something stupid on Twitter.

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>>724012333
>fuck off Russia,

Same old tricks Schlomo.

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>>724012453
>a cypholitic cuck

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>>724012453
>cypholitic
not a word there Ivan

>>724012468
its for the comrade shills, my bad I should have put it in a new post

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>>724012560
keep posting that pic Ivan.

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Liberalism breaks what down now?

>>724012560
God damn that's inspiring Anon.

>>724012712
You're right, we should go to war with Russia immediately. Donald Trump should be impeached and Hillary Clinton should be made president.

It's her turn!

>>724011819
>Under rated post
People need to learn to stand on their own feet and not accept authoritarian governments in any form

>>724012560
the "evil russia" narrative was created and propagated by you right wing retards. The Red Scare ring a bell you fucking moron?

>>724012334
Is this some kind of joke? The US political term "conservative" wasn't even around when JSM was alive.

>>724012787
Glasnost ring a bell you post millenial fucking retard?

>>724012387
thats true

>>724012453
>makes up words
>tries to make them sound buzzy
Liberalism 2016.

>Anyone anti-white or authoritarian is not liberal, no matter what you or they say.
Evidence?

>>724012767
read the post comrade. we aren't going to war with anyone. We won't let it happen.

>>724012823
what what in your butt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHDASkfrFUg

>>724012861
You've made me see the light. Hillary Clinton was right all along. We should go to war with Russia immediately. How dare they kick out the Rothschild banks? That's more than enough reason to kill millions of people

When are you going to sign up for the draft Anon? We've got to kill those evil Ruskies! Wolverines!!

>>724012863
>Mitt Romney

LEL. Try someone who is relevant.

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>>724012787
propagated yes, however it is now a democrats stance that russia = satan. (just glance At MSM and see how they talk about russia) You. fucking. moron.

>>724012787
they aren't here to debate, just spread shit and troll

>>724012684
Much love fellow Patriot

Liberals, you're all human garbage. You want to destroy marriage, heterosexuality, racial identity, the white race, nationalism, your homeland, big cities, and even western civilization. There's nothing good about you. You're just puppets of the ultimate evil, satan.

You pretend to me morally righteous and enlightened but in reality you're selfish, ignorant and evil.

>>724012942
>Shits all over your stance and supporting points with sarcasm
>cries strawman to deflect and evade
Liberalism 2017.
Now with twice as much fascism in every bite!

>>724012911
keep ignoring what the post says, comrade.

>>724012942
Not an argument. When are you signing up for the draft to fight those evil Russians?

>>724012929
so was your standard bearer a liar? Glasnost was in 1985 after all, feggit.

>>724012992
You're right. We should go to war with Russia immediately.

>>724011854
>>724012021
>>724012436
>>724012712
>>724012333

its embarrassing how much you are afraid of russia, its more embarrassing that this whole russia-phobia shit started again after obama and clinton blamed them

you lil lemmings

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>>724012971
>>724012971

>>724013009
>Glasnost was in 1985 after all, feggit.

Yeah, basically you're a confirmed idiot now.

>>724012981
I think liberals might actually be demons.

>>724013031
Not an argument. Admission of defeat.

>>724013040
>>724013040
can't defend it can you loser?

>>724013050
They're wicked, deviant people who want to normalize things like transexual children and pedophelia.

>>724013068
Not an argument. Confirmed defeat.

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>>724013053
you apparently don't know what a strawman is, but you're doing it by claiming liberals want war with russia.

Arguing against a position nobody is taking = strawman

Try harder faggot.

Please remember as you read this thread the sort of mindset of the person behind each post. Generally the more insulting and lacking in real factual data, the more you can assume that the person posting it either has an agenda, lacks a solid grasp of the concept they're speaking about, or is simply just someone who is not worth trying to find reasonable political discourse with. In response to the OP, this is a tough question to swallow as it also shows an innate lacking in the understanding of the humans behind the ideas. It is simply astounding to say x group in power is worse than y group in power without even touching on the fact that consolidated power combined with these mindsets is what is dangerous. Consolidated power is a riot in the streets, it is two boys picking for teams at recess, it is your parents mutually deciding what is best for you, it is the ability for small groups of politicians to make drastic changes. This is a hard concept to fully try and understand... I in absolutely no way do... But to have this discourse of the destruction of a, or all, civilizations be based solely on political beliefs ends up nearly nowhere in regards to actually progressing the conversation in to an understanding of WHY the implicit danger is even possible in the first place.
Cont'd

>>724013105
>strawman

You keep using that word as if you understand its meaning.

>>724013105
You're right. We should go to war with Russia immediately. Let's make Hilldog president so she can lead us into battle.

Don't use Liberal. Leftist is what you mean OP

Leftists want Islam raping women for brown babies and hate white people

And anyone with an actual fucking job and does any amount of research outside of Marxist camp. I mean college. Will know Socialism fails. And that leftists didn't do shit

Republicans freed slaves.
Normal people saw blacks as OK people and got them to vote and freedom
Normal people help women.

Leftist use good things as some type of badge. But let me explain why it's bullshit and dangerous.


Leftism. OR your "liberal progressive" ideas are like a fire. You stepped close to the fire. And it's warm. You leftist will use ending slavery and women's rights as good. Sure. The fire is warm. But you are stepping so close into the fire you're breathing in toxic smoke
>See leftists mindset towards illegals and Sharia Law

Soon you'll be in the fire. And instead of nice warmth from the cold you'll be on fire and die

Most college kids won't be as Marxist as you think. Most young kids won't be cucks either. College kids will go into the world and either know off hand leftism is cancer. OR will learn the hard way.

BTW leftism is also why
>Women get raped and molested by Islam but they can't or won't admit it
>Want to ruin communities
>Want to ruin the family (they celebrate single parents and abortion)
>Actually love killing millions of black babies
>Don't give a shit about black people unless it fits thier virtual signaling mentality
>Only care about women when they can look nice or are attacked by white men. I'm sure they don't give a fuck about any of those little girls raped by anyone brown
>Lie about history

Leftist is shit.

>>724013127
it is exactly what I said it is. You want the long-form definition cuck?

"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent."

>>724013157
2/10 trolling, made me respond

Republicans control the White House.

Republicans control the Senate.

Republicans control the House of Representatives.

Republicans control the vast majority of local and state governments.

Republicans will chose the next three Supreme Court Justices, and that will greatly effect the future of the United States.

Abortion will be outlawed. Sluts will no longer be able to use it as a horrible form of birth control.

Gay marriage rights will be rescinded. Marriage will now be about a man and a woman, as nature intended,

Mass deportations will devastate the Democratic voter base.

The wall will restore racial and ethnic balance to the southern states. No longer will America be turned into a colony of Mexico.

Women's rights will be rolled back, and they will no longer be able to abuse the system or our nation.

Generation Z is overwhelmingly conservative. Perhaps in response to the out of control liberal hysteria of the generations that came before them.

There will never be another Democrat president.

Trump will serve at least 8 years. He will followed by another Republican leader.

>>724013122 continued
Which belief systems are prone to misguidance? How do daily interactions with these mindsets progress parts of our conscience? How do daily interactions with these mindsets REGRESS our conscience? In a situation where liberalism/conservatism leads to the downfall of a civilization it may be sufficiently true to say that "liberalism/conservatism lended to the downfall of this civilization" but that in NO WAY makes "liberalism/conservatism leads to the downfall of civilizations" a universal truth. It is the mechanisms behind this that are important. Are you a greedy liberal? Are you a greedy conservative? You are greedy separate from your ideology, so the real questions should be separate from ideology. How should we progress in finding those who should lead? How should we progress in building up those who would lead?

>>724013187
>He actually had to look up the definition of strawman

>He's still using it wrong

>>724013013
>thinks we fear them

How are those sanctions working out for you comrade?

>>724013188
>There will never be another Democrat president.
you guys really do want it to be like Russia eh? Shoot the journalists and dissidents, amirght?

>>724013188
>as nature intended
I appreciate you, anon.

>>724013238
>Shoot the journalists and dissidents

Ironic considering that the left is the source of all the recent political violence in America.

Keep trying junior.

>>724013211
oh so what's the secret retard definition you know for strawman?

>>724013188
I russia.

I type stuff out for ruble.

Then I stand in bread line.

>>724013273
>doesn't understand irony either
fuck son you dumb

>>724013013
I'm not afraid of Russia, nor do I hate it. But I don't like Putin, and I think he'll do whatever he can get away with. I think if we let him, he'll keep pushing us almost too far, but not quite (because no one really wants a war) and gradually move our "line in the sand" back until he's doing whatever the fuck he wants and we're doing nothing because it's only a bit worse than last time, not worse enough to risk a war over.

>>723999707
When I realized that conservatism is a knuckle-dragging science-denying, fact-ignoring superstitious cesspool of stinking feces.

>>724013317
>>724013292
>>724013279

Libtard status: Triggered and BTFO

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>>724013273
> left is the source of all the recent political violence in America.

>>724013332
>I think if we let him

There it is. A lefty pushing for war with Russia

We have no say in what goes on inside his country shill. Sorry Schlomo, we're not going to war just because he kicked your banks out of his country.

>>724013353
>Denying literally dozens of recent headlines and news stories

KEK

Liberals are human garbage and their way of life is coming to an abrupt end.

>>724013273
damn liberals:

FOXNEWS COM/us/2017/02/24/deadly-shooting-at-kansas-sports-bar-was-racially-motivated-witnesses-say.html

>>724013388
Oh I thought it was all fake new?

Kek, get wrecked faggot.

>>724013419
>Implying this has anything to do with politics

Man you are a dumb failure of a cunt.

>>724013417
>abrupt end
good thing you can't afford the guns to do it and lack the balls as well

>>724013434
>fake new?

What fake new? Is that like the new fake?

>>724013456
Cunt status: Triggered

>>724013442
>implying it isn't directly due to right wing political rhetoric
man you are a dumb failure of a cunt

>>724013477
well can you afford them?

Do people realize that in the first 10 days of his presidency Trump reversed almost 8 years worth of Obama policies? He's erasing the legacy of our previous president just days after taking office.

>>724013375
That's not pushing for war with Russia, and it's not so much about what he does inside his country as what he does outside it.

Your idiotic straw men and catchphrase insults just make you look like a fool.

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>>724013456
>thinks americans aren't armed

When I learned that communists have been systematically infiltrating the American government, media and schools since the 30s and that modern liberalism is on par with the destructive communist system of control.
It was also when I learned that it's mainly biological factors that drive movements and that liberals are r reproductive parasites with whom we cannot peacefully share a system of government with.

>>724013518
Obamacare is gone then?

>>724013550
I asked him if HE was armed. You know, for that "abrupt end" he promised.

>>724013555
Fake news

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>>724013555

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Whatever happened to Hillary Clinton's lesbian lover?

Huma whatshername?

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oh I am so going to miss this site when Trump's currynigger FCC chair shits it down

>>724013612
>doesn't into google

woops my bad, read it too quick

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>>724013518

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trump voters are good goys

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>>724013518
Nope.

>>724001500
Not just an American phenomenon sadly, can confirm Britfags argue and get pissy with each other over political views

>>724013188
This. To some degree

Democrats are legit running on "fuck you white people" and LEFTISM and Hollywood are blaming Americans on problems and of being racism

Too bad that lots of whites will now never vote Democrat after the DNC corruption. And Democrats calling for white people to shut up

Trump can get blacks and legal Mexicans /etc to think about voting non Democrat. And honestly once a good % of non whites realize Democrats suck they will never see a democrat win


>Leftist cucks think having the news. Commercials. Hollywood. And cunts talk down to people and use "u racists" will make people want LEFTISM in powRe

But leftist won't learn. They will cry about evil white men even if a brown Muslim man was raping them.

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>>723999707
I've always felt this way

>>724013631
>they can barely english

These fucks aren't here to debate, they are here to shill. I imagine they will get bored with /b/ and go back to pol

>>724013675
lol nobody who would vote for Bernie, a socialist, would ever really switch over to Republicans in protest.

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>yfw conservatards are so dumb, that they vote against their own interests.

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Hold still lefty, this will only hurt a lot.

>>724013675
Sage. Newfags, don't get trolled by the Russian shill.

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel inclined to counter the russian spamming machine our intelbros informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this pasta in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, inconsistent knowledge of our culture and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanied with crazy ass ideological statements. The content of their posts vary, from both pro trump to anti trump, but the tone of the message is consistent: extremism. It's "Fuck Trump, burn the city down" or it's "Fuck lefties, niggers, fags and women." It is an organized effort to create division among our citizenry.

Most of us don't really care about american politics. The board is being targeted by a foreign entity, same as during the campaign. Our own intelligence agencies confirmed it and they are prolly watching this shit too. Hey there NSAfags.

Anons we are a bunch of fuck ups, half of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of genocidal maniacs who endorse the targeting of entire groups of people just because of their race, nor are we into burning down cities to protest the current administration or starting another fucking war. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb fucks. We don't care enough about this type of stuff to give a fuck. THAT'S HOW WE CAN TELL IT'S YOU DOING IT RUSSIA. You're too over the top about shit.

Our intel agencies are our best defense atm as our WH is currently a raging dumpster fire and our media sucks. I don't consider myself at all patriotic, (and fuck the police still), but these fucking russians are still here. They are BEING PAID TO spread shit all over this board and it's retarded, Fuck off cunts.

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>>724013748

>>724013748
>Voting for mass murdering globalist who want to start WW3 is in your best interest

LOL

>>724013353
But it's true.

>>724013779
Fuck off schizo. Your bait is weak.

>>723999707
END THE FASCIST IDEOLOGY OF LIBERALISM

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When I read Hans Herman Hoppe's book "Democracy, the God that failed".

>>724013198
Continued for one final point. You are all so very close to this line of thinking when you say "x doesn't represent (ideology)". You are just avoiding the very obvious conclusion that the difference between two people of the same ideology and that of two people of opposing ideologies can be equally drastic. What creates or widens the difference between say, an "sjw" vs a more moderate liberal, what creates the difference between a redneck vs a more learned conservative? To ignore this is to ignore the answer you're asking for. If anyone read all three of my posts, thank you for doing so independent of whether or not you agree with me.

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>>724013830
define fascism

>>724008643

> You don't get prepackaged, cheap, healthy food

it's a market economy, fuckers. You need to BUY it when it's available. That's the only way it will gain market share.

>>724013841
but it is not and never has been a democracy. the whole premise is based on a lie

>>724013853
Define define

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>>724013751
LOL

>>723999707
>When did you realize that liberalism is a cancerous ideaology that brings down civilizations?

About 10 yrs ago In high school, found myself getting an C- for a topic assigned to me that went against the grain.

>be underage b& HS student faggot
>some class I don't fucking remember
>debates come very often as to "spark conversation" hue hue hue
>I absolutely dominate every debate
>classmates don't wanna debate me anymore
>teacher assigns topic for debate
>weak faggots get the gun control pros and against the 2nd amendment
>I get defending the 2nd amendment
>well fuck me, this sucks
>do research as usual
>find FBI stats on gun deaths and break them down
>find news articles on women and people using guns for good, not all of it is bad
>basically come to the realization that gun control is fucking retarded and it's guaranteed by the constitution
>a lot of data and studies to back up my claims, in the process find blacks use illegal guns more often for crime
>literally lol on how easy this is gonna be
>debate day comes
>all the opposition has is muh feels and guns are bad
>lay down facts and stats with charts and source
>teacher doesn't like this
>she starts debating me instead on "how guns kill people, no real use for a gun, nobody needs guns cause muh cops"
>pick every statement and shred it with facts
>she mad
>on closing arguments cuts me off and tells other students how all of this doesn't apply to real life
>tells me to sit down
>suddenly she doesn't like me cause my views challenged hers and i proved her wrong
>classmates don't give a fuck what's going on cause who the fuck cares about this shit

So this is how I got a C- and the opposition got an A+ on this project. Opened my eyes on how stupid liberal thinking is and how little facts they use. They will always cling to feels and not facts, they will always fudge information to fit their narrative and people will eat it up.

>>724014012
But wait, you just said the left wasn't violent

Oooh BTFO again.

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>>724013790
>derp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY

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>>724014034
no I didn't.
pussy

>>724014083
>Voting for mass murdering globalist who want to start WW3 is in your best interest

LEL

>>724012981
Implying anything you listed is important in the grand scheme of things
>it isn't

There is no god and you will die

>>724014119
Cunt status: Triggered

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=vYvugeG9dpE

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>All these butt mad libs.

I'm sure the Netherlands are suffering so much righ now

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>>724014139
and that triggered cunt is you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Ydoh_5EjU

>>724014229
>N-n-no y-yer the one who is triggered!!

Cunt status: Extra triggered

>>724014135
Exactly my point. Liberals are corrupt on a biological level, a cancer of society. They don't have arguments and always end up resorting to violence. Hence why they need to be physically separated and removed from a peaceful society.

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Isn't it great how we destroyed the dreams of this evil bitch?

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>>724014258

>>724000322
I think this is the issue most people have. They pick a team. Nothing seems to work 100%, the truth is, you should have a varied pool of representation, and lean in whatever direction a country is lacking in.

Like if I thought taxes were getting too high, and fucking sheltered liberals started making playgrounds out of packing foam so "no kid gets hurt" I would vote Republican.

But frankly, the Democrats don't represent the kind of liberal I think we need (more of a Bernie Sanders flavor) and the Republicans are practically a religion. Now both teams are more concerned with the teams winning than actual politics. And frankly, I think we should do away with team allegiance and just say "you are trying to address problems. How do you help them without fucking up everything that we already like."
Because right now, both sides just hate whatever the other side does.

To the point that the Republicans basically pitched Obamacare back in the 90s, and today want it repealed. What in the god damn fuck is wrong with both parties?!

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>>724014298
They literally rigged the election for her and she still fucking lost!

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>>724014280
You sound like a delicate snowflake.

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>>724014361
I will always cherish this image.

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>>724014361
>rigged the election

>>724014393
Her tears must have been delicious. I bet she cried and blamed Russia and did all the other stupid shit liberals did after the election.

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>>724014361

>>724000995
muh no true scotsman!

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>>724014444
>>724014393
Here's another good one.

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>>724014183
Being this retarded.

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When you realize that there is no reasoning with liberals

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Governments come, governments go. The US is currently undergoing its death throws, and people seem to believe if they hold true to their ideologies there's hope for a solid future. This constant bickering is an attempt to distract from the underlining problems, and is based on fear. Pretty bold to think just yesterday our ancestor were hunting and gathering, and today we've perfected a form of governance.
The very system is flawed, yet you argue over nothing more than superficial semantics.
Until there is no currency, no demand, no gdp, no capitalism; there will no end to war, hunger, disease and environmental destruction.
But, so long as you are not directly affected no change will be made.
Unfortunately, cognitive dissonance, indoctrination, and confirmation bias run rampant.
A great war is coming, big brother won't save you.

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I'm just going to leave this here.

Gen X fag. I used to support Mandela. Really bought into that "ain't gonna play Sun City" bullshit.

Now my eyes are open.

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even fox news viewers are realizing what a joke he is

http://nation.foxnews.com/poll/2017/02/21/how-would-rate-president-trumps-first-month-in-office/

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>>723999707
all i know is this kelly anne conway BUKKAKE is RAW
https://youtu.be/ccjofBuITnA

>>724011170
How the hell do you figure that evolution, societal or otherwise, is somehow entirely convergent on self-destruction?

That's a hell of an assertion to make without a lick of evidence, hell not even an argument for it really.

And yes, maintaining old systems does literally stop progress. Things need to change to make progress, shocking right?

Trump's speech tonight was truly amazing. I've never felt more proud of a president and more happy to be an American.

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Liberals are all disgusting animals.

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>>724000021

>>724014607

> liberal city
> tiny flag is against flag code
> fags on top keep trying to retire this fabulous monster
> don't be retarded on purpose, pls

>>724014536
>USA Death Throes
>Great war
You do realize that the US is more likely to hit the red button than become fully taken over, right?

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PENCE ON THE FENCE

YOU ALL HAVE TO GO BACK

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>The left wants to sexualize young boys so they can prey upon them

>They want you to believe pic related is normal.

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>>724014733
That's Race Bannon.

This is Pence

>>724014784
God look at the sadness in his eyes. Too many feels.

>>723999912
No bullshit

Then what is the one im the middle called, the one other civilisations didn't even name because they knew how things work there can't actually exist two sides

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Liberalism is a form of mental illness that distorts the victim's view of reality.

>>724014681
If rather be crispy than patriotic.

>>724000322
Theres a word for that, it's called idolization

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>The left wants you to believe that pic related is "normal"

>>724000405
YOU! Key word YOU! Now shut up

>>724014339
Bernie is a socialist.

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> mfw rightist wants pic related to be normal

>>724014361
Don't get so uppity.

>>724011906
>Liberalism is almost the opposite of fascism.
>almost
LOL
Both love corporatism and don't give a shit about individual freedom.

>>724014929
wtf man....

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>>724014929

>>724015240
>liberals love corporations
>republicans have literally always tried to implement Reganomics since Regan
Wut

>>723999912
Everything before the French revolution was not civilization?

>>724012560
>calls russian shill machine conspiracy
>even tho intel agencies confirmed it
>your comrade is showing

>>724012453
russia pls go

>>724001500
This guy gets it. The truth is there somewhere in the middle. The middle just isn't very popular.

>>724011070
>>724011070
fuck me bro u hit the nail on the head there

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>>723999707
We get it; your an anarchist and want to destroy the government so you vote republican