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Yo /b/ i found this card 2-3 years ago i have no idea if its

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Yo /b/ i found this card 2-3 years ago i have no idea if its authentic or not but its in really good condition i took it out of the plastic and its spotless

>be me 3 years ago
>dad owns appartment building
>guy left without paying and left a shit ton of trash in appartment
>found this card in a hard plastic box while breaking an old stinking sofa to take it outof the appartment (i was working alone and it was the only way i could move it)

Should i try to sell it? Is there any way that i can check if its real? I find it really weird that this was the only magic card that i found in the whole appartment i dont know much about magic but it seems weird to me that he owned only one card and it happens to be one thats worth a lot of money
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>>723841757
This cant be real it is fake, if not you can buy that car you've always wanted
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check if its real
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>>723841757
It's fake. No collection sign.
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It is fake. Look at the bottom corners. You can see that it was printed out and glued to another card. Fake/10
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>>723841757
>>723842810
I can post more pics
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>>723842752
...
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The card is fake fag
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>tfw you gave your card collection to a friend at the end of highschool 15 years ago. Go to a convention and realize your best deck is now worth 10k.
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>>723841757
probably fake, the colors aren't quite right and the text isn't as clear as it should be but that could just be the picture. you could bend test it, look up how to do it so you don't fuck up a lotus. You could also send it to get graded.
>>723842810
>>723842752
these guys have never seen a lotus before so don't listen to them.
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>>723842900
That card was worth 300 dollars when I quit playing. What is it worth now?
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>>723841757
Ho my god
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>>723842900
I dunno. Show the side and back. That looks exactly like the ones I saw at tournaments back in 96-97.
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>>723843302
send it in to get graded man
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>>723841757
I can give you 50 for it
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>>723843240
the border text looks off, it needs to be crisper I'm wagering it's a fake.
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>>723843361
This.
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>>723843240
>>723843302

put it back in its sleeve you mong
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>>723843458
The printing on alpha wasn't that high quality. They didn't realize they were sitting on cardboard crack quite yet.
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>>723843671
It looks pretty real, man. That card may be worth as much as nice new car.
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>>723843268
>>723843569
Looks legit. Put it back in sleeve. I played starting at Arabian nights. That looks good. It could be a good fake though but it is a really good one. People uses these unsleeved at my first tournament. Moxes and lotus every where.
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>>723843671
Take it into your local game store. People here seem to forget that beta borders look like that. Unless OP uploads high quality scans it's impossible to tell if real or not.
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thats my card motherfucker. i be seeing you and your dad real soon.
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It's a pretty easy to spot fake
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Sorry for late replies was carefully taking pics

>>723842746
How? Im scared to damage it with bend test
>>723842810
See other pics
>>723843147
See other pics
>>723843268
See other pics
>>723843361
Does it cost money?
>>723843458
Interesting
>>723843644
Lol im a mechanic my fingers are fucking dirty
>>723843895
That would be awesome as fuck
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>>723844063
Yeah the text looked washed out and kinda purple in every Mox and lotus I saw in the 90's. The printing was kinda shitty until like maybe 3rd edition or ice age.
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>>723844264
if you bend test it right there will be no damage, I've done it with a few old cards and had no isuue. but grading is the safest bet
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>>723844236
I actually can see that line but its on every other black lotus photo on google image so (pic related)
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>>723844264
It does cost money to get it graded and authentication. But that card is worth far more than fine gold for it size so pay to protect its providence.
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>>723843240
you can probably get around 5-10k for that one
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>>723841757
That shit is fake as fuck
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If it's real nice, but if it's fake it's probably because he spent all his rent money on a sick black lotus card
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>>723844236
This may be correct on closer inspection. I'd have it looked at still though.
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well fuck.

If OP isn't just full of shit - good luck to you dude. hope it's a real one, those fucking pieces of cardboards sell for ~$30,000 because people are retarded as fuck
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http://sales.starcitygames com/cardsearch.php?singlesearch=Black+Lotus
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Mail it to me op I'll grade it for you

500 Pennsylvanian Ave Room #2, Washington DC
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>>723844493
Do you think i can sell it without getting it graded? Like can i put an auction on ebay and just tell my story
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>>723844890
almost definitely no.
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>>723843096
same here, I started playing when I was around 14 and 15 when revised edition came out, around 16 or 17 I lost interest in it and sold all my cards to a friend for like $50, when I look at the price of those dual lands today I easily had 4 or 5 thousand dollars worth of cards.
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>>723844765
coming to fuck your ass home boy
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>>723844765
Really? Awesome ill mail it tonight
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Fake because visibly pixelated typeface merged with background means it's been scanned
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About 99% sure it's fake. The text shadows feel wrong, too dark, the borders between the frame and the black border aren't crisp enough, and the text box looks too smooth, like someone dropped a blur filter on it. Of course this could be due to the relatively crappy pictures, post a high res scan of you want to know for real. You can buy fake lotuses for like 5 bucks each.

Source: worked at a mid size mail order card shop and constantly saw people trying to send us fake things from our buylist.
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>>723845038
>>723845079
this
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>>723844890
Yeah. Nope.
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>>723844765
Fuck...actually got me Mr. President
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>>723844984
I had a freaking candalabra of tawanos based DD deck. Original city of brass and shit. Shivian dragons, OG. I had the limit of dual lands for every deck I owned. They cost me like 4 or 6 bucks a piece.

To be young, dumb and full of cum again.
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>>723843165
At least 10 times that. For unlimited edition. In bad shape.
Black bordered, at least 10k and maybe much more.

Not that you could sell it most of the time these days. Vintage is dying. It sucks, but that's what happens when the game is almost a quarter century old and some people hoard cards of which there are so few copies now, nobody can play it anymore.
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>>723844627
Someone asked me to try a bend test?

Seems regular bendy
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>>723844957
>>723845140
Lol shouldve known

>>723845079
Interesting, but where in the fuck do you get fake lotuses for 5$? Didnt find jack shit on google
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>>723845458
Do the rip test for the blue line next
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>>723845458
Im OP, this is not OP
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>>723845468
China is the source of all evil, one way or another
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>>723845458
kek, faggot, OP's borders are black, BIG FAT PHONY !
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Gotta do a bend test bro if its real it will bend back if its fake it wont go back properly
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>>723845649
Yeah, China is turning out near perfect counterfeits as of late. You can buy like 50000 of any card for $400. It's pretty insane.
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>>723841757
Probably fake OP crap. But if not will bite.
You need to get it appraised, usually local card shops will have more information on this. One of the shops here has an appraiser they work with since we have a lot of fakes pass through. Call over first, ask them about it, if you just bring it in they are likely to think you're another idiot with a fake Lotus and brush you off. Keep in package/sleeve. If it is real then you are a lucky son of a bitch.
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>>723841757
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>>723841757
Probably been said, but extremely bad fake.

Still, people will buy these to play as proxies rather than spend $5000 for a real one.

Be careful when selling it, sometimes eBay will take down those items.
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>>723845404
I do a few open booster tournaments during dragon Con every year for lulz. I have no interest in starting again seriously. After not playing for like 15 years I was amazed how many more things they had added. I'll stick to Pathfinder or LOTFP or board and Vidya now.
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>>723845941
>see this
>take out phone
>snap a pic
>not trying to get it out of his hands while it still looks ok before he smears that black shit he has on his other hand all over the card

>????????
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>>723845303
#blacklotusesmatter
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Burn it to be sure OP
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>>723846046
If you want to sell it. Take it to a convention. You will find a knowledgeable buyer. Plus you can stare at slutty geek girls cosplaying.
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OP here, bump thread and i will do bend test
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>>723846842
OK now I know OP is a fag troll.
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>>723846842
what does it matter if we do its the only way you'll know if its real
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>>723846842
Just get it graded. Go to your local card shop and they can probably help you out with letting you know if it's real or not and even help you sell it. Getting it graded tho will increase its price because buyers will know it's authentic.
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>>723844679
the card isnt even that good, its usefull but not format changing. its more iconic than anything.
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>>723846954
What? Why lol
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>>723841757
>28 months

Fake. Back to le reddit
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quads for Burning it
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>>723847179
is this bait? lotus is one of the biggest enablers of t1 wins
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>>723847028
It really doesn't matter, its an obvious fake. Still, I've heard bend tests will snap fakes in half, so hopefully OP will do it and post pics of the ruined fake (is that even a thing, ruined fake?)
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>>723847179
>>723847294
dies to artifact removal therefore piece of shit
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pee on it. real ones will reflect piss streams without soaking any urine
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>>723846842
I say try it.
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>>723841757
In all honesty, you need to get it checked. There are many professionals who can tell. If you it turns out to be real then you have some money on your hands. Best not to listen to a bunch of dipshits that will get you to do stupid shit for luls.
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second on that
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>>723847521
no it dosnt its in a format with usually 8 free counterspells is usually played the turn its used and even if its targeted it's saced in response so not really
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>>723847521
lmfao
>I play mtg with my friends and don't know shit the post
Where is your turn zero artifact removal, faggot?
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>>723848069
exile spirit guide cast oxidize but still wont do shit
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My quads say burn it
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>>723841757
Get it graded. It is likely 80% chance of being fake. It is worthless without the grading.

Also don't be pissy if you get like a PSA grade 6 or 7. It's really goddamn hard to get a good grade. Fresh unpacked cards will get 8s because their own packaging damaged them.
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>>723848044
>>723848069
dies to counterspells, card is shit
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>>723848582
that and the printing quality was poor back then. centering and too much/too little ink on so many cards makes those 9+ worth a lot
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>>723843240
This came off a laser printer
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>>723848069
mindbreak trap?
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is any of the ice age stuff worth anything? i use to collect those cards i still have the binders full of them. ice age is the oldest set i have.
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>>723848854
Not really, maybe the dual lands but probly not more then 10 - 20 bucks for those
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>mfw autistic faggots would pay thousands of dollars for a game card

Also if dubs shred it to pieces
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>>723848854
At most you'll have a couple $10 cards.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/index/ICE#paper
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>>723841757
that is 100% obviously fake, not even gonna read the rest of the thread.
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>>723848854
mostly junk or reprinted heavily.

Stuff like sword to plowshare, necropotence, painlands, snowcovered lands, brainstorm are okay

All of that has still been reprinted a bunch
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>>723841757
That text doesn't look quite right. If it's real, you should get it graded.
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>>723849167
That summer Serendib Efreet with the correct art and correct color is nice.

Stuff at the bottom is absolutely hideous.
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>>723841757
Looks fake but I'd want to see the back to make sure.

Also you wouldn't get near the "going price" if it was real. You might think it is in good condition, but its not. Certainly not pack-fresh.

If you really want to know get it PSA rated. It is the standard for rating cards and no one will buy this if it isn't rated, and it won't get over $2,000 if its not rated above an 8, which it won't be. They will also be able to tell you if its fake or not.
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>>723848987
Thanks for the link I will take a look at some of the other stuff I have.
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>>723846159
That's fake as fuck. The color is way off.
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>>723841757
its the perfect proxy version
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>>723848854
if you have any Urza's block, or Alliances sets they would be worth more. mtg goldfish site is a good one to use to check it out
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>>723849320
>Stuff at the bottom is absolutely hideous.
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Hold it in front of a lightbulb: it should be opaque, uniformally.
Back when I used to play, fakes didn't have the right blue paper sheet sandwiched between the faces.
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>>723849691
Better yet, get a cheapass UV light. That's what I use to check. That and a magnifying glass.
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>>723849167
if those are actually yours why not keep them in a safe deposit box? I get crazy about my collection and its not one of some of those cards
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>>723845337
Yeah, candelabras are nice.
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>>723849932
I have a decent safe, but yeah... need to get a vault or something.
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real beta black lotus scan
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>>723848610
only fucking retards counter lotus
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Used to play this always as a kid at a shop that would hold friday night magic time

Never knew the rules but it was fun watching and drinking soda.
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>>723850353
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>>723841757
fake
see >>723850145
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>>723841757
If it is an authentic first revision Black Lotus then it could be worth several hundred dollars. There are many websites that tell how to identify what revision an MTG card is. They have different borders and such.
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>>723850498
alright so you let your opponent play lotus they crack it and play dack or jace or standstill on monastary mentor or a couple of sphere efects, then you force one of them to get value out of your counter, but you will just counter 3 mana and 2 turns later they just cast what you could have spent your counterspell on. but you'd rather delay then stop. do you actually play this game?
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>>723850901
We've got a biter.
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>>723850498
>Not sure if trolling or DesolatorMagic
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>>723851264
fuck desolatormagic is a fucking retard
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Guys i did bend test and i think it failed it, it now has a huge bent line in the back, will post pics for your satisfaction when my phone gets over 5% battery (fucking samsung shit)
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>>723850498
for one blue mana I would hope you could at least target any number of creatures
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>>723849601
i do have cards from saga and destiny cant remember if any from legacy. i know i have most of the unglued set, mirage, odyssey, and seventh edition. there is a few more too i cant remember them all I haven't looked at those cards in most 20 years.
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>>723851264
I'm going with the old "pretending to be retarded" approach
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>>723851510
>"pretending to be retarded"
Definitely not des then...
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Fuck me
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>>723851755
It looked fake anyway. This saved you the bother/cost of getting it graded.
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>>723851755
Thats okay, you can flatten it out with an iron.

The cards are pretty well made so they can take the heat, but you have to be quick.
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>>723846954
For /b/ everything is a bait,they don't even believe in themselfs
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>>723851404
I prolly is worth your time if you have quite a few cards to check.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/index/UZ#paper
check the top stuff and see if any thing is familiar.

This is about the only thing from mirage worth much and unglued aside from the lands are worthless odyssey and 7th are about the same
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>>723851755
That means you're gay
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>>723851755
Atleast thread wasnt bait for once
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There were some reproductions printed awhile back, which themselves are rare. You won't get 5 figures for it, but you could get maybe a couple hundred.
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>>723852647
So are you telling me i ruined it?
>>723851755
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>>723852815
NO a collectors edition one has a gold border to indicate its not tournament legal
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How about we talk Pokemon cards instead of magic the gay-thering.
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>>723852815
You're an asshole..was it so hard to go to a magic store to verify if it was fake or not?
In case it's real you're fucked up,you ruined a thousand dollars card...besdes,it was expected that it would end up like that if you bend it that roughly..
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a real card would not crease like that
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>>723853348
It's not real if it creases, that's the whole point.
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>>723853348
Just look up a video of a magic card bend test, you'll see.
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>>723843096
Haha me too
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Rip it in half. If there's blue in it then you just lost 20,000$
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Lettering of the bottom text is too far right alligned
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>>723852815

Not that guy, but listening to someone on /b/ telling you to bend a fucking card that could possibly be worth a ton of money is retarded.

I hope it's fake, but if it's not, I hope you learned your lesson.
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It's a proxy/fake. You can see where some shit was either printed or glued if you look at the black rim of the card. Try to sell it to a card shoprocessing for about $200. Even if it was real, it's not from an alpha pack, which you can tell because the alpha pack cards didn't have rounded cornerss.
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>>723854030
fuck you bitch
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>>723854030
mhm, or bc lotuses weren't in alpha, go back to u-gay-o
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>>723852815
>>723853348
>>723854002
http://www.apathyhouse.com/fake/page331.php
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>>723841757
Google the PSA. You can pay them and ship the card to them and they will grade it, put it in a hard plastic case, and tell you EVERYTHING you need to know about it. Then you can appraise it at local carf shops accurately and sell it if its worth anything.
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>>723842746
>unplayed
Just looking at the card, its bent. Its DEFINITELY not unplayed
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>>723844890
Not for a card that valuable man. It costs like 20 bucks to get a card graded by the PSA
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Its the shitty version, the one thats 30,000$ its a rare edition, thats the common edition wich is roughly 20 bucks, i can buy it for 25 because you are a cool guy, email me
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>>723843096
Happened to me with Yu-gi-oh
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>>723843096
same feelsbadman
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