I am what you might call a triggered liberal. I completely oppose

go to pol

>>723831610
Is this a poll topic? Honestly this is my first time on 4chan.

Did the day you became a liberal happen when your liberal gf cucked you by making you take a black cock up your ass?

to put it nicely, yes.

>>>/pol/

wow... another SJW, just what the world needs.


kill your self faggot

>>723831406
if liberals would stop trying to take away guns and admit that we need to get rid of welfare, you could probably dominate politics. but those 2 issues keep the rednecks voting far right

>>723831610
/thread

>>723831406
No one cares.

>>723831610
>>723831937
>>723831905

>>>/pol/114551372

>I support the LGBT community.
And so does Trump.

>>723831406
I hate conservatives, especially the alt-right and tea party faggots, but liberals are only marginally better, plus they are generally too spineless and cowardly to stand up to right wing extremists, hence the mess this country is in.

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>>723831406

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>>723831406
>>723831663
your a fucking lefty and a newfag
GET THE FUCK OUT

DUMB FUCKING RETARD NEVER DISS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR President Trump!

>>723831406
>I support the LGBT community

Would you look at that, you don't completely oppose Trump.

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Sure is Russia in here. Have some pasta:

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine our intel agencies informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanied with crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me fap again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering. We are being targetted by a foreign entinty via social media, as were we targeted during the campaign. Our own intelligence agencies confirmed it.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal maniacs who endorse the targeting of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender in an effort to spread hate. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb fucks. We aren't and we won't.

>>723831406
>support the LGBT community
Stopped reading.

>>723831406
Only faggots care about politics. Make a thread about something exciting, not shit about suits and greedy fucks

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>>723832745
>>I support the LGBT community.
>And so does Trump.
So why pick Pence as VP?
Or change the transgender bathroom rules?

We should gas the muslims, just like hilter gassed the jews.

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>>723835548
nother pic

>>723831406
No arguments from me.
#notmypresident
#fucktrump
#resist

>>723831406
I'm left too, (untriggered), but as far as I recall Trump's never said anything about the LGBT community.

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>>723835672
This.

>>723831663
fucc off

>>723831406
Trump also supports gay marriage. Why do you hate fighting ISIS, state's rights, personal responsibility, and the constitution?

quick fellow lefties, call everyone russians! that will surely prove our point

>>723835548
>So why pick Pence as VP?
Insurance, same as the last few presidents. VP is a worse deal than the President, so less inclination to assassinate them.

>Or change the transgender bathroom rules?
It's too easy for a creep to walk into a girls restroom and just say he's trans/gay/whatever.
>b-b-but anon! if he was going to rape her, he'd have done it anyway!
Doesn't mean shit. This enables creeps who aren't explicitly molesters/rapists to peep on little girls/women. How would you feel if your 8 year old daughter came to you and said some dude at the movie theater was watching her in the bathroom?

Transgender bathrooms are fine so long as there's a Male bathroom, Female bathroom, and a ??? Bathroom.

>>723832876
They're standing up now, and Trump is not long for this fucking sideshow.

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>>723835701
>Trump's never said anything about the LGBT community.
He's not stupid enough to say "I hate dykes and fags", but he picked a VP that wants up to believe that homosexuality is a disease that can be cured through electroshock therapy, and supports parents forcing their teenage children to essentially be tortured until they renounce their un-republican lifestyle.
Oh yeah, and the whole "drag queens can't use the lady's room thing.

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>>723831406

I voted for Trump. At the rate he is going, I'll be voting for him again.

>>723831406
Did you vote? Just curious. Be honest.

>>723836039
Ok comrade.

>>723836078
No, but thats not the point. Trump is a horrible person and should not be allowed in politics

>>723831663
bait

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>>723831406
>oppose trump
>support lgbt
Yeah, that's the rational position to take...

You want a medal for being a decent human being?

>>723835829

nyet comrade!

>>723835951
They'll admit defeat soon

All they have is their hatred, and that doesn't inspire support or sustain movements for very long.

I hope Trump cuts all Federal funding for educational grants completely. You snowflakes would be the first ones dumped overboard.

>>723836190
why?
also, if you feel so strongly why didn't you get off your fat ass and vote?

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>>723836078
Most of the angry shemales at my university who protest trump bi-weekly at minimum, when questioned, didn't vote. How interesting.

>>723831406
Want a medal for being a faggot?

>>723836190
Keep up the not voting

They'll all get the message sooner or later.

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>>723835816
>Trump also supports gay marriage.
[citation needed]

Now I know these are all strawmen, but let's go anyway:

>Why do you hate fighting ISIS
Don't want Americans to die helping Russia secure control of Europe's oil supply.

>>723835816
>state's rights
Like legalizing marijuana?
Or maybe not doing ICE's job for them?

>>723835816
>personal responsibility, and the constitution?
Trump's the enemy of both, and if you didn't have such a man-crush on a corrupt, senile human cheeto you'd know that.

>>723831406
how jobless are you?

>>723835947
>this enables creeps who aren't explicitly molesters/rapists to peep on little girls/women

except it doesnt.

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why are you such a fucking faggot and a newfag op? just herd of fucking 4chan are you fucking retarded?

>>723831406
>I support the LGBT community.

Hate to break it to you.

But so does Donald.

>>723836397
this.

>>723836407
> no it doesn't isnt an argument. I bet you think legal and lawful access to guns is enabling someone to murder someone right?

Have some pasta:

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine our intel agencies informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanied with crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me fap again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering. We are being targetted by a foreign entinty via social media, as were we targeted during the campaign. Our own intelligence agencies confirmed it.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal maniacs who endorse the targeting of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender in an effort to spread hate. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb fucks. We aren't and we won't.

>>723836407
>except it doesn't
You didn't even bother to post a counter argument.

>>723836608

okay, so prove it enables people to abuse it.
obviously you have facts that support this theory.

>>723836738
because it's pretty simple.
has there been an epidemic of abuse in public bathroom by transgenders or even people claiming to be transgender? nope.

>>723836407
Except it did under Obama's EO.
Which you would have known if you were paying attention.
It was WAY too broad.

>>723836916

prove it.

>>723836407
Actually it does.

If I was a sex offender I could just claim to be transgender and walk into the women's bathroom.

>>723836836
No, there has not been a reported epidemic. The shit still has happened though.
Honestly it just seems like the simplest way would be to just have uni-sex shitters.

>>723836916
proofs russia, you must provide proofssssss

>>723837010

And you'd be prosecuted as a criminal if you were found to be spying or filming women sexually.

Next argument.

>>723837059
>yes it has happened
>just not reported
>im so russian im mashing fucking keys

>>723831610
Fucking lost it

>>723837091
Never seen anyone being arrested for standing in the corner of the bathroom

>>723836407
ok
>>723836748
that isn't me but here you go:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Dressed-as-Woman-Arrested-for-Spying-Into-Mall-Bathroom-Stall-Police-Say-351232041.html

>>723836836
>what is google

>>723837059
the shit happened even before obama's executive order though...and one of the primary examples people use to show that people abuse this...took place in toronto

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>>723837145
I never said it wasn't reported I said an epidemic wasn't hasn't really been reported.

Nice try shitposter

>>723837264
Canada isn't a real country.

-Melvin

>>723837195
>posts link to one incident
>epidemic
>muh russian

>>723831406
Cultural Marxism = the minority is oppressed and always right and rest of society needs to change to accommodate.

So how's paedophilia and terrorism working for ya?

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instead you should just Snapchat (z) .com and leak all your snapchat friends

>>723837273
semantics Igor, I know it's hard to spot via google translate.

>>723837091
How are they going to prove it? They would be persecuted doing exploiting children through normal means too, what's your point? The point isn't that they will be prosecuted, the point is that they are allowed to get closer to children by simply slapping on a wig and claiming to be something they aren't

>>723837195
>perve spies on girl in bathroom! OBAMA IS AT FAULT!

absolutely no correlation between what that person did and the order obama passed.

try again.

>>723837597
>how are they going to prove it?

Oh i dont know...maybe the film/photos the individual was attempting to take in the bathroom?

the internet can be used to get closer to children too. perhaps we should limit that for their safety.

>>723831406
LGBT community is completely unnecessary. It's a waste of time to support them. Support people who society actually needs. LGBT are mostly immoral drug users and are typically degenerates. Support good hetero families. Encourage LGBT to be honest about their sexual practices and ways of identifying so that you at least know who they are and they don't go underground as boy molesting priests etc.

>>723835548
Hillarys VP was against abortion because he was Catholic

>>723838109
Have some pasta:

As an actual american that has been watching all this shit unfold on /b/ I feel it is my responsibility to counter the russian spamming machine our intel agencies informed us of and tell it to fuck off by posting this message in every russian shill thread I see at least once. Your "not quite right" use of american slang, archaic metaphors, adjectives and weird ass sentence structure outs you. Idk if it's just google translate or what, but your english sucks. It sounds awkward, out-dated, and weird. This is accompanied with crazy ass ideological statements.

We know the NSA is watching us too, you faggots can thank us, the real amerifags, who don't fall for this shit, for doing our own little online campaign. Thank us by not busting us for dl'ing movies and please do what you can to make marijuana legal, or at least keep it legal in the states that made it legal. Also, I'll remove the camera cover on my laptop so you guys can watch me fap again, if that's what you want.

That is how you can repay us.

Most of us don't really care too much about american politics, but it's the least we can do since we are here anyway and this is our country too. We can point out the shills and the weird ass Trump dick sucking disinformation barrage the russian shills are spamming on the internet so that the dumbshits don't get fooled into thinking any of this is actually real dialogue, support, or enthusiasm for such blatant hate, fear and panic mongering. We are being targetted by a foreign entinty via social media, as were we targeted during the campaign. Our own intelligence agencies confirmed it.

We are a bunch of fuck ups, half or more of us are faggots, but we aren't a bunch of edgelord, genocidal maniacs who endorse the targeting of an entire group of people just because of their religion or race or gender in an effort to spread hate. Reddit might have fallen for this shit, but they are a bunch of dumb fucks. We aren't and we won't.

>>723838076
>hello I couldn't help but see you were filming me, may I have your name, address, and a copy of said photos for court evidence?
The fuck are you going to do, assuming that they even know they are being filmed?

That's assuming they are even filming it, jesus christ these arguments are fucking retarded. How can people like you even exist?

>>723837597

If a law allowed individuals to get closer to children in order to assault them, wouldn't there be a direct uptick in people exploiting this law?

Just because the law makes something easier to do doesn't necessarily mean perves are taking advantage of it. Especially when it's a popular topic in the MSM.

>>723831663
>the cancer that's killing /b/
>newfag
>libtard
>literally shaking

Btfo back to >>>/r/edditt, normie

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>>723838532
hey look russia is here! welcome comrade!

>>723838409
Well hopefully you would then agree that just because people having access to guns does not mean an increase in gun crime.

>>723838377
you're right, nobody would know the obvious man dressed in drag trying to peep at people under stalls.

>hurrr durrr but but but they wouldn't even know they are being filmed!!!!!
if they wouldn't know then what does it matter what the person looks like? not like there is some sort of genital checkpoint at the door

my god you're retarded

>>723838831
these guys aren't here to debate, there are to stir shit up and yell cucks at us

>>723838831

Of course I don't. But that is a completely unrelated topic all together.

>>723838377

see >>723838831 if you're having too much trouble following proper logic and reasoning

>>723838918
Yes of course, because if somebody does not know something is happening to them it's perfectly fine to let a crime go unpunished

>>723839021
Actually it's the exact same reasoning you used. I'm pointing out the flawed logic in a way easily understood

>>723839339
You pointed me to my own post, I think the only one having trouble following the conversation is you

>>723839684
it's the language barrier man. fo real.

>>723838409
Who said anything about assault? Not only this but as far as I know the transgender upscale is only a recent development. How are we going to know current figures of something that has just started to become a trend or if a law has not yet been officially passed? Unless transgenders are actually allowed in female bathrooms.

What are the specific laws regarding this, can anybody tell me? Why the fuck is this even an issue? If you have a dick use the mens restroom, if you have a vagina use the female bathroom.

What is the fucking problem?

>>723831406
>I am what you might call a triggered liberal.

Then you're a gullible teenager, prone to believe in any single retarded story telling liberals might deliver.

What you believe in, like BLM are obvious bullshit which don't resist a second to an odjective analysis. Same goes for your racism, homophobie, anti-US rhetoric, etc.

Just open your eyes. Trump is a complete asshole as a human being, but he's fucking right. Globoalization will fuck up the nations, the people and the cultures. Wake up instead of offering your ass to financial system !

>>723839684

so your logic is the access to guns does not mean an increase in gun crime

but the access to bathrooms means what?

you're saying the availability of something that could potentially be threatening is grounds for denying said availability in the first place.

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>>723831406
Granted trump has failings, but do you agree that hillary was a deceptive lying piece of shit too?

>>723840035

i dont even know where to begin to address all the flaws in this statement

>transgender upscale only recent.
nope
>how are we going to know if something that is a trend blah blah blah
because transgenders have been using bathrooms of their choice for decades now and nobody had an issue with it
>law not officially passed yet
executive order in may of 2016...no trend of transgenders or people faking transgender committing crimes in bathrooms

>>723840081
>John Oliver compared donald trump to hitler, time to burn cars in the streets to stop trump's hate!

This is what these people actually believe, and they will come to threads like these and try to defend it. They do not listen to reason, and their belief system is entirely based off of the television or the first 5 results on google for "journalist website"

Take for example this anon >>723840150

He is trying his best to twist what people say into something that fits his narrative of "people with penises should be able to use the woman's bathroom!"

>you're saying the availability of something that could potentially be threatening is grounds for denying said availability in the first place.
Yes, no fucking shit that's what I'm saying. That is exactly what I am saying, I know you're going to strawman this as much as you can, but it depends on the representative statistic. It's a question of weighing the benefits Vs the consequences, and we all form our individual opinions based on this.

It boils down to what are the potential outcomes of the situation, and is this a desirable or beneficial outcome to have? Essentially you're sacrificing the rights of the majority for the rights of the minority, a fraction of the population.

If pissing in a stall labeled female is so important make individual bathrooms for trannies, or they can use the male restroom. It's as simple as that.

>>723840739

so you believe that we should outlaw guns then...
got it.

since the availability of firearms potentially leads to gun crime.

>>723840507
>nope
>I'll just say nope, it's because i say so

>because transgenders have been using bathrooms of their choice for decades now and nobody had an issue with it
Obviously I was talking about how it has been recently become an issue as well. Please tell me how many trannies exist today as opposed to back in the 50s and then tell me that there hasn't been a recent surge of these people.
>executive order in may of 2016...no trend of transgenders or people faking transgender committing crimes in bathrooms
Again, I said that the relative information is not known yet, We have no way to measure this so soon as it's been less than a year so far to make an accurate representation. Not only that but how do you measure something like this? Not only that but it isn't just a question of crime, it's the fact that you're trying to impose a policy on women that not everybody wants.

At the end of the day the question of whether you want somebody with a penis allowed inside a female bathroom is a simple matter of opinion, the actual nature of the problem is subjective. "We want trannies to be able to use the female bathroom because if they can't it hurts their feelings" too fucking bad. If you have a penis, use the men's bathroom

I'm a boy (a qt with a booty) from Australia who has fantasies of a Trump supporter forcing me to wear pro America and pro Trump girls clothes and fucking me senseless whilst calling me a cuck, is this normal? Any pro trumps wanna force a boy to see your side?

>>723840739
>They do not listen to reason, and their belief system is entirely based off of the television or the first 5 results on google for "journalist website"

Fair enough.

I sincerely think that liberal opinions are a direct consequence of the lack of critical thinking.

This is just too easy to believe in these bullshits. You cry with feminists, LGBT, etc., you're the good in the story, you can just join the Internet mediocrity. This is easy.

It takes balls to criticize these bullshits, since you first have to admit you might be an intolerant fascist.

>>723841341
>we must protect women's feelings!!!!
>dismisses the feelings of anyone else as "too bad"

lol dat hypocrisy

>>723841168
Like I said, I knew you would strawman it without actually thinking because this is what lefties like to do. If you had any reading comprehension you would know that I said it's about weighing the benefits V the consequences.

I know that things like nuance and reasonable perspectives are scary to you but bear with me. We need the availability of firearms to prevent possible tyranny in the future. This is the simple nature of it, what specific guns should or should not be allowed is a more nuanced form but for the moment this is the basic foundation for the second amendment. Not only this but our founding fathers believed that each individual citizen should be able to protect themselves from other people without the need of government assistance, this is the second main idea behind it.

As for the statistics, only a moron would argue that having access to guns has no bearing on gun violence. The question is whether or not the consequences of gun ownership as an individual right are worth the risk of violent people acquiring them to which we have systems in place such as background checks.

You cannot purchase a fully automatic weapon without a class III liscense
You cannot purchase any firearm without going through a background check
You cannot own a firearm if you have a severe mental illness.

These are basic policies we already have in place, it's a simple matter of balancing laws to have the minimum amount of crime and casualties while providing the freedom to live as you choose.

It is the same concept with trandgender people being allowed to use a female only bathroom. Do you think that we should allow a man wearing wig and a dress into a female bathroom because to not do this would hurt his feelings?

>>723842093

tl;dr

>>723842008
The idea being that trannies don't even make up 1% of the population. That is the crucial difference here that you can't grasp because you lack critical thinking skills.

Is it okay in your eyes to transgress on a majority's rights to privacy because to not do so would be "offensive" to a handful of the population?

>>723842294
Live in ignorance for all I care, but just remember that you are incapable of thinking for yourself or creating a reasonable perspective

>>723831406
How do you (or how do you think most liberals) reconcile support for muslims with the reality that muslim ideology is more conservative than what most liberals would consider the opposing side?

>>723842294
>my argument just got BTFO, time to pretend this didn't happen and go back to my feminine penis threads :((((

>>723836272
yea kill the education system that'll make it great again. clearly you got passed over for a grant.

>>723842449

(I'm not the original poster, I just got here.)

Allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice isn't a violation of anyone's privacy.

If anyone goes into ANY bathroom and does anything sexual or inappropriate, they should be arrested and charged. We already have laws in place for this.

Do you really think a law barring trans-gendered people from using certain bathrooms is going to stop perverts from going into the women's bathroom anyway?

>>723842093
You're mistaking cross dressers with transexuals.

A male simply donning a wig and a dress differs from that of an actually transgendered individual.

You also seem to be fixating on only one aspect of this conundrum - men using female-only bathrooms.

Either way, I don't really care either way as the existence of unisex and family bathrooms completely negate this entire argument.

>>723838235
Tim Kaine is personally pro-life but supports a woman's right to choose.

>>723831406
>I am what you might call a triggered liberal.
...and that's exactly why I left the left.

>>723842449
so you'd prefer that someone who looks physically male, beard, muscles, tattoos to enter a girls bathroom if that person has a vagina?
somehow i think that would hurt a lot of feelings as well

>>723836039
>le cnn boogeyman

>>723831406
Come to /pol/ so we can call you a liberal faggot over there. Wait a minute, nah. Fuck off, we're full.

>>723842625

(Not OP)

Most liberals get it totally wrong on Islam.

Pointing out that radical Islam and conservative Islam stand in direct opposition to progressive values doesn't make you an Islamophobe.

I have some muslim friends who are the most open, accepting, non-violent people I've ever met, and I know some muslims who use their faith as an excuse for bigotry against LGBT folks.

I know black people who are homophobic as fuck - I don't excuse that bigotry because they're black, and I don't excuse for Muslims either.

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>>723831406
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no8bSlsvKs8

>>723843804

I can show you just as many fucked-up verses in the Bible as well.

Fuck all religion, honestly. It's a waste of time, and faith is retarded.

>>723835816
>lelelelle what do you have against the consititution
>bans media outlets
you can't teach this kind of stupidity

Newfag, plus a liberal. You're going to have the worst time on this board

>>723843976
>b...b...but those media outlets are spreading fake news and propaganda!!!

>>723831406
I don't like Donald Trump. I preferred him over Clinton, but that's only because Clinton was a liar and obviously corrupt. I don't like Trump at all.

I support LGBT

I don't consider myself a liberal at all. You don't have to be a liberal to have these 2 political opinions.

>>723843976

>not talking to your reporter is banning the media

Oy, vey.

>>723836190
what hard evidence do you have that Trump is a horrible person? just curious..

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Why not just declare trannies as disabled? Solves all that bathroom shit.

>>723835548
>Or change the transgender bathroom rules?

It's a states rights issue. Obama declared it in an executive order. This is something that should be made into law.

By keeping it an executive order it can be struck down at any time without any legislative process, as Trump just demonstrated.

This give states the chance to set these things into law themselves and give LGBT people much more rights. It will be secured by a popular vote.

And if it can't be secured by a popular vote then perhaps these laws shouldn't be forced on people who don't agree.

>>723843976
He didn't ban media outlets. He just refuses to answer question from the main network that believe they are elite and they all will take what ever he says and twist it and manipulate it. Contrary to what the big networks think, they do not have the sole right to ask question when there are other reporters in the room that have just as much right to ask questions that they do but have never been given the opportunity in the past because of the media political bullshit. The national networks need to stop acting like a bunch of fucking crybaby liberals and start telling the truth. Maybe then they might start getting called on again. Right now they are no better than a tabloid.

>>723844586
>not letting in anyone that you don't like because you're a manchild
>trying to downplay what happened because you got an orange dick shoved so far down your throat its coming out of your ass