So how do you feel about these 7 exoplanets NASA discovered from

pretty tight shit dude

life confirmed in less than 5 years. I take bets.

Neat, but being more than 40 lightyears away is a bummer. Unlikely any human will set foot on them for a few centuries.

>>723286521
Some boring shit like one clump of bacteria on the entire planet and they eat minerals from the rock they live on to survive

>>723286724
That would be revolutionary though. I hope we're the only life and we get to infect the universe with our hatred.

>>723286592
Yeah man i feel you. The best we could think of so far i an ion engine that could develop speed around 6% of light speed. That's depressing.

>>723286052
all of them are good for life not 3
but holy fucking hell that system is tiny

if only drump allocated the 25 (?) billion to nasa instead of the wall maybe we would know more sooner

Important find for humanity if we ever have the ability to get there in the millions of years it would take to reach them.

>>723286843
Nope. 3 of them are.

>>723286052
I think we should invade immediately. God only knows what they're planning

>>723286843
Not OP, but I did read that the closest couple to the dwarf are likely too hot, and last likely too cold. 3 are in perfect range.

>>723286724
and yet, that would be the biggest discover of our entire history.

Aliens live in mexico tho

>>723287018
trump just enforced a travel ban.

>>723286988
for what life form ?
imagine some tough mofo from a volcanic planet looking at earth "holy fuck its so cold even iron turns solid - life impossible" and some icy fag from very cold planet "holy fuck earth is so hot nitrogen boils - life impossible"

>>723287258
Let's put it this way, 3 of them could sustain a liquid water.

>>723287118
>>723286724
>>723286521
but theyve already found mineral eating microbes on mars

>>723287258
How do you think basic biology works? Same rules apply everywhere for carbón based lifeforms

>>723286052
There's no life outside of world and the earth.

>>723287258
And by no circumstances there's no way a life could become of an liquid iron nor solid state ice, let alone solid state methane.

>>723287418
No they didn't.

>>723287560
how you know ?

>>723287348
increase pressure if you wanna make water stay liquid when its too hot

>>723287910
Well why wouldn't be possible for life to develop inside of a star, right? Get real. Life needs liquid water.

>>723287471
Good point

>>723287560
>>723287560
We used to believe that life required oxygen and water. We now know different.

There's lots of extremophiles on Earth. Life could even exist in the gas clouds of space.

>>723288247
>Life needs liquid water.
Bullshit. Life on Earth, yes, but any solvent could potentially be used for life elsewhere.

Ammonia for one.

>>723288346
If that's true, why there's no life on Mars or Venus or Jupiter?

>>723286724
Beats the shit out of the tendies and good boy point "life" that infests here.

>>723288247
but thats a fake barrier with that "habitable zone" , thats just guessing and abstract , even jupiter says "fuck you" cuz one of the moons europa probably has a giantic liquid water ocean under global glaciers

>>723286830
Maybe this zero point energy drive will be real. I have a feeling it is an error in understanding or readings at this point.

>>723288757
The key element is "water", again.

>>723288639
It's thought that there could be.

On Mars, if it's there, it's most likely microbial life deep underground that work chemosynthesis. We don't know enough about Venus or Jupiter. Jupiter's moons are thought to be some of the best possible places.

>>723287643
Ugh, yeah. They did anon.

>>723288872
http://www.xenology.info/Xeno/8.2.2.htm

Scroll down to: Table 8.4 Physical Constants for Xenobiochemical Solvents

>>723288538
You should go back to chemistry son. Water is a pretty unique solvent. I would bet on silicone based life before betting on life utilizing ammonia to the exclusion of water.

>>723288924
Link to proof then, you retard. You can't just say shit on the internet and expect us to take your word for it.

>>723288639
Most retarded comment thus far in this thread. That there's a possibility doesn't necessarily mean it is always the case.

>>723288639
venus and mars are too much dead in this moment to afford any bigger animals , earth will die like that too in the future and maybe then some civilization based on methane will grow on saturns moon titan and explore solar system and they will say "no fucking way there was ever life on earth - no liquid methane"

>>723289055
Again, you're thinking of life on Earth. On a planet without water, it's possible for other solvents to suffice.

Water is the best option, but that doesn't mean that in the absence of water, life wouldn't find another way.

See
>>723288991

>>723288924
Do you have a link to a peer-reviewed study published in a reputable journal? Not that proof would stop people from arguing about something, I'm just curious.

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>>723286052
That's just bullshit made up by globalist nasa in order to perpetuate the status quo by making it appear that we are """advancing""" scientiwfically. All to hide the fact that the Earth is ofcourse flat. They could have said a billion planets and idiots still would have believed them.

maybe water is one of easiest ways to make life going but notice how fragile is life on earth , one asteroid or a bigger volcano may get rid of it

To discover evidence of life on a planet more than 40 light years away is like facebook-stalking your crush and finding out she likes the same bands as you. Imagine your life together; you will never get married and live happily ever after. Imagine what those life forms are like; you will never interact with them.

>>723289549
>idiots still would have believed them
Big words from an idiot

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>>723289307
Show me stable molecules that encode information and can self replicate not based off of carbon and relying on waters unique properties. Then go collect you Nobel prize in chemistry. You are talking out your ass m8. Maybe silicone can stand in for the carbon in some possible scenario, at least the basic premise works, but fuck off.

It is far better to be thought an idiot and remain silent then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

The earth is flat. This is just another NASA lie.

>>723289674
>Says they're big words.
Yep, you must be the idiot.

>>723289683
lol @ u retard

>>723289400
>>723289063
it was long time ago , some rover was doing 2 experiments about it , one experiment has confirmed theres some shit living , second experiment gave negative result (because it was planned wrong and killed the shit) , so the official nasas answer was "nah"

>>723289857
I don't think that means what you think it means, anon.

>>723287461

What about the sulphur based life in sub ocean volcanic springs? Think they give a fuck about your faggot ass temperate climate?

>>723289683
I think you'll find that you're the idiot.

We were talking about possibilities, not fact. Until we find life that utilizes something other than water, we can't say for certain either way.

Your autism is showing.

>>723289683
this.

>>723288872
Element
Water

Its not alchemy, fucktard

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>>723287218
>Aliens live in mexico tho

Call the MIB...

>>723290112
This paper is full of chemistry that haven't been advanced since the 80's using by in large elements and combinations we know through astronomical spectral analysis are uncommon. Occums razor.

Maybe there is a small prion like cesium based "life" on some place in the universe it is a huge place but they ain't making radios.

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BUILD A WALL!

You're a fat cunt op

I would only consider that huge ass space telescope an actual wonder from that system

>>723286052
I dont care. We'll just go there and fuck it up also with due time.

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>>723289055
>I would bet on silicone based life before betting on life utilizing ammonia to the exclusion of water.

Amonia, sans water to dilute it, is too strong - you could never establish a cell wall, let alone the intricacies of things like sodium-ion channels and DNA in such a strong environment...

Sorry, Charlie.

>>723290469
>they ain't making radios.
Did I say or imply anything of the sort? When I used the word 'life' I used it casting the net as wide as possible.

It's even a possibility that in the gas clouds of space there's microbes happily using chemosynthesis.

>>723286592
>>723289655
>40 light years
Thats actually pretty fucking close considering size of observable universe. no? Of course, we will be all rotted corpses when humanity discover travelling anywhere close to light speed.

>>723286052
We'll never be able to get there so who gives a fuck?

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>>723286592
To everyone- this, this.

This has been the problem the whole time. How the fuck do we get there?

Think about it....40 light years

A lightyear is the distance light travels in a year

Light travels at ~300,000,000 meters/s..

Per second...think about how many seconds in day, in a week, month, now a year...and multiply that by 300 million meters. That's inconceivably far.

How the fuck we gonna get 40 lightyears?
Physics sucks man. That's what's been bringing me down recently. We will never figure it out. That's why getting to Mars won't work.

>>723286052
Why TRAPPIST from all possible names they could give

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>>723289655
>Imagine what those life forms are like; you will never interact with them.

They probably don't "interact" at all.

Talk about maximum autism...

>>723286857
You mean if only Obummer had done something useful with the TEN TRILLION he added to the national debt. I feel ya fam.

But we get much fresher memes now:

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>>723291124
and even that Mars sucks. Just fucking rocks and dust everywhere.

>>723291124
Traveling at the speed of 60 000 km/h we would need around 740 000 years to get to the star that is 40 light years away.

>>723291124
what are you talking about. NASA already has manned missions to mars planned in the 2030s. They literally just built a rocket more powerful then Saturn V to do so.

about those distances
if those wormholes (which are currenlty bullshit) cant be created or any other faster than light transport methods dont work we are all space niggers stuck in sol's prison because we will never get to other stars not mention other galaxies

>>723291207
What does that even mean?

>>723291124
Solar sails are our most realistic bet, other than that maybe proton rockets

>>723291446
will they be able to come back or its suicide mission ?

>>723291625
Solar sails would work only when you're close to the Sun. After Pluto we wouldn't get almost no acceleration. And we could reach around 3% of the speed of the light. Ion engine could reach up to 6% ls.

>>723286592
That's why I'm not buying it. There's no way we will ever know those planets are really even there, just have to take those scientists at their word.

>>723290680
I was referring to using silicone instead of carbon. I think ammonia as a life supporting medium is am outlier at best.

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Sweeping statement here. NASA has an annual budget of $18 billion dollars.

The World has an annual military budget of $1.2 trillion.

The United States has an annual military budget of $600 billion.

Canada has an annual military budget of $18 billion.

Unless we intend on colonizing those 7 planets, i think its afe to say we are spending our money where we prefer to meddle. Home.

On this floating rock. In the middle of buttfuck nowhere. For no buttfuck reason.

>>723291625
are you insane ? how will they work when youll be far away from the sun ? i have a strange feeling that was just hawkings joke

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>>723291583
>What does that even mean?

A clutch of autistics on 4chin, arguing about the capacity for interaction held by imaginary life forms on planets in other systems that we will never reach...

Peak autism, indeed.

>>723286052
How disappointing would it be if we found a whole race of people on another planet and they were exactly like us with the exact same technology. They even look like us, and it's nothing special at all, we just found more people.

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>>723291528
Lmao I think this thought almost every day

>>723291625
>>723291767
I was lucky enough to intern at Mit as an undergrad, and while I was there, the most common talk was a "Neutrino reflector"

Since there are so many constantly, if we could just redirect them we'd be golden.

>>723291874
>Can't tell if troll or retarded.

>>723291718
Consider how your ancestors never returned from America. We in Europe still think you're all fucked up

>>723291843
thats right , lets spend all the money on bigger bombs and kill each other , thats what humanity will do anyway

>>723291874
Antimatter drive is more likely than harnessing the sunlight with reflectors of the size required to make a solar sail feasible.

>>723287348
>Thinking we know everything about how the world works.

Just chiming in to remind everyone that it is physically impossible for any matter with mass to travel at the speed of light.

We would be very lucky to achieve 50%. More likely 20 is the real world limit.

>>723292000
and they would be nigger muslims

>>723292006
>if we could just redirect them we'd be golden.

If we could just make gravity, we'd be golden...

Fantasies, fantasies.

>>723286052
How did we even find them that far away? How do we know anything about their surfaces and shit? Seems like something that's easily made up because no one can prove it wrong.

>>723291718
Ay here's the issue also. We'd have to lug enough fuel there (which costs it's weight in fuel) just to be able to come back

>>723292305
'artists impression'

>>723292305
You dropped your tinfoil, buddy.

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>>723292305
>Seems like something that's easily made up because no one can prove it wrong.

Just like 'islam is the religion of peace' - easy to claim, impossible to prove.

>>723292268
Warp drive

>>723292268
Also, imagine what would happen if a space ship with velocity of 20% the speed of light hit the tiny piece of dust or thumb size meteorite. It would pass through that space ship like a hot knife through the butter.

>>723289549
Not sure if trolling, but everything you said could be true. It's all just a matter of whether you believe a big organization like that would ever lie to people or not. Most people think not because they're "scientists"

>>723292145
i would like to buy 10kg of antimatter , how much for it ?

>>723292051
if you were smarter than a scarecrow you would notice solar sail is worse than shooting hamsters backwards

>>723292305
some shit about refraction. Different elements refract different spectrum or something like that..dunno.. Ive seen document but I am too dumb to remember

>>723292305
They were measuring the light shift of a star when planet passes between the telescope and a star.

>>723292305
Also, the know the temperature of the star and they know where is that life sustainable range.

>>723292539
tinfoil actually enhances the rays, that's why they trick the craziest of people into putting them on. themoreyouknow.gif

>>723292554
you didn't answer the question, but nice deflection

>>723286052
Fuck the aliens
>space smallpox when

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>>723286592
>40 light years
So that means they are getting our tv from like the 80s right?

>>723292734
You use lasers to push the sail, not the sun. Once it's up to speed it just cruises through space.

No friction btw.

>>723292934
poor them

>>723292761
>>723292878
How do you measure something 40 light years away? I'm genuinely curious as it doesn't seem possible

>>723292879
Depends it it's shiny side in or out

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>>723286521
>less than 5 years
>planets are 40 light years away

Are you a time traveler?

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>>723286052
>2017
>nasa exposed for hoaxing and lying about tons of shit
>still believe nasa
>mfw no conspiracy tinfoil

>>723291718
they are planning on making small habitable shelters that can support them so they can do research as they wait for the second rocket to pick them up. but they would be there for months.

>>723293028

You're a fucking idiot

>>723292947
ya i know that but that makes even more problems but lets skip them all , you finally travel with 90% speed of light , where are the brakes ? you gonna hit the target planets surface with 90% speed of light also causing armageddon on it , if i was alien seeing that i would laugh all my asses off

>>723293198
Did you came from the future just to say that? Give us a real answer, did they finally found a cure for your faggotry?

Considering the sheer number of galaxies (200b+) and stars in each (200b+), and the fact that this is too far for us to EVER reach, it's hard to get excited. There are undoubtedly a fuckton of 'earths' out there. Kinda neat to dream about though.

>>723287461
what if those lifeforms aren't carbon based?
>>723290085
>sulphur based life on earth
nigga you just went full retard. Basic biology, all life on earth is carbon-based.

every other week u hear about new 'earth like' planets and nothing ever comes of it. who gives a fuck. nasa should just stfu and let us know when they find the aliens.

>>723293198
well nasas style is like even if aliens came raped them and shitted on their faces they would say "hmmmmmmm we cant confirm that aliens exist"
so rather observations from earth wont do also

>>723293320
You would problably be a worthless piece of shit in every one of them, don't delude yourself.

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>>723293199
kek

>>723293037
id love to see proof of any hoax.

>>723293402
please be a troll

>>723293320
>There are undoubtedly a fuckton of 'earths' out there. Kinda neat to dream about though.

"Undoubtedly"

Like "an infinite number of monkeys, banging away on an infinite number of typewriters, will undoubtedly reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare" kind of undoubtedly?

Because the ridiculous factor on both of those propositions is maximal

>>723293513
my reply and time for you my fellow faglord
>2017
>google or stfu u lazy fucker

>>723291807
well did you ever try to read into something you don't buy or do you just dismiss it?

>>723286817
>revolutionary
how anon? how is that going to be revolutionary?
we have the exact same fucking shit here bro
stoo using big words to sound clever anon
just stop it
fucking revolutionary
i'll give ya revolutionary
like my boot up your arse
revo

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>>723286521
>dude makes deductions out of thin air
>no proof about this 5 year bet

Yeah, I would problably raise any kind of bet this idiot makes, but I'm pretty sure autistic kids can't gamble.

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>>723292999
>>723292934
No shit, they´re getting ALF, 70´s movies and advertisings you wouldn´t believe.
American´s TV, of course. Russia would only have comunist propaganda, but JAPAN would be transmitting 80´s anime.

>>723293766
ALF is 80's series.

Considering the sheer number of galaxies (200b+) and stars in each (200b+), and the fact that this is too far for us to EVER reach, it's hard to get excited. There are undoubtedly a fuckton of 'earths' out there. Kinda neat to dream about though.

>>723293656
>my reply and time for you my fellow faglord
>>2017
>>google or stfu u lazy fucker

Some people wouldn't see the truth if you pounded it into their ass with a sledgehammer.
The "communism works" hoax, the "Pearl Harbor was a sneak attack hoax, the holo-hoax, global warming hoax, Hillary is the most qualified person to be president hoax, etc...

In all likelihood, everything you think you know is a hoax, not the other way around.

>>723293766
Beastie boys and the breakfast club, top gun, not all bad.

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>>723286052
>>723286052
Incredible.

I really wish we'd focus more on that. Perhaps we should point our little radio-thingies at THOSE planets, and see what responses we get. Launch probes, etc do everything we can to learn as much as possible about them. This could be the start of something amazing.

>>723286052
can't be bothered when it is 40 fucking light years away

>>723286052
We don´t even HAVE visuals of moons and other crap from INSIDE our fucking solar system.
Those planets are all artist renditions. We will be getting more shit done with robots and more space stations. You wanna see the future? Let ALCOR freeze your brain for U$50000.00

>>723293199
just record that , put on alien youtube with label "how humanity explores universe"

>>723292734
More than all the wealth ever created. We have made small quantities before but it is by far the most expensive thing man has ever made. But it is also a 100% efficient energy conversion when it annihilates. Maybe one day we will have factories in a heliocentric orbit making the stuff by the milligram.

>>723293696
Yeah I do look into things, it doesn't make sense to me how we could know what a bunch of planets 40 light years away look like.

>>723292934
The signal would be too broken

>>723293656
>google NASA hoax
That wont take me down a never ending rabbit hole of fucking idiot bloggers and youtube videos about hoaxes "discovered" by fucking idiots with zero actual scientific knowledge.

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If we start by developing a protol. A hypothetical "If...then..." simulation...

...and we get all the U.N members to contribute to this protocol of what we'd do when we actually meet an alien race that we do not know if we should fear or trust...

...then maybe we'll start moving in the right direction.

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>>723293766
>the first aliens we encounter, and they're all weeaboos thanks to us
fucking kek

Ok science tards,pleeese recall North American contact with advanced civilization,rape,ransom of weight in gold,bio disease,....aliens are conquistadors of another mother....

>>723294195
>The signal would be too broken

And we never sent them the NTSC protocol, so they could never decode it, PAL.

>>723286843
>Good for life
We don't even what the surface consists of or if they even have an atmosphere.

>>723287643
NASA makes incredible discovery of 'alien microbes' inside Mars-like cave in Mexico
Daily Star · 2 days ago

a quick google to debunk your crap

>>723294195
They might have better technology they could DVR it and patch it together.

>>723293199
By obscuring the laser using a outer sail as a aperture. You would spend every bit as much time deacclerating as you were spending up. Read Robert L.. Forward's Flight of the Dragonfly

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>>723286592
NASA should make a NEET program. Where they recruit all the basement dwelling idiots with no purpose on life, train them, build a ship with enought food, water, porn and vydia for them spend the rest of their life going to a distant exoplanets with great possibility of alien life.
Hell, even I would enter this program. Fuck this planet.

>>723294300
Nigger, you replied to wrong person.

>>723294274
They are driving around in hyper light vehicles that probably give them a blowjob with a voice command
>can't decode this earth tv

>>723286052
TRAPpist-1 Very suspicious name.

>>723290053
I was possible fossilized remains of bacteria, but unproven. It could also have been just an odd mineral structure. They were unable to confirm.

>>723294432
FTL might be possible under our current understanding of physics but unfortunately would require orders of magnitude more energy then exists in the observable universe. So that leaves new physics or unlimited energy.

>>723286052
I don't give a crap

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>>723294260

>>723286830
Ever hear of project breakthrough starshot

Able to send solar sails at near light speed. So we have an estimate of 30-40 years before we get pictures of alpha Centuri

>>723294117
but anyway better spend that antimatter to make wormhole working , travelling slower than light makes no sense

>>723294351
Yeah, that's just who we need to be ambassadors from Earth.

The real question is do we send all the niggers to the new planet and they form their own planet of the apes and we keep Earth or do we take a new planet for ourselves?

>could both I guess

>>723294637
Shut it Christfag

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>>723294351
Can you imagine the degenerate fucktards that reach the exoplanets 10 or so generations after that launch. They would be beating off to porn the which would gag a maggot.

>>723294351
That would not work. It takes so long to get anywhere in space with our current technology that the neets would have to breed on the go, and then educate their children to continue the mission.

>>723294686
See
>>723294609

>>723286052
Did NASA let 4chan name a entire solar sistem?

>>723289683

Silicone cant do catenation as much as carbon so its not possible for it to make complex molecules

>>723286052
If I can't get there after 1 week of travel I don't care

>>723294609
>So that leaves new physics

Maybe... just maybe.

>or unlimited energy.

Not even theoretically possible - "infinite energy" means "zero mass" or didn't you get that far in quantum and big-bang cosmology?

>>723294657
Or better yet:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
http://techland.time.com/2012/09/19/nasa-actually-working-on-faster-than-light-warp-drive/

>>723286592
In the next few years a self improving ai will discover a way to travel faster than light.

>>723294609
Or some alien tech in our own solar system yet to be discovered, like mass effect.

>>723294415
sorry bout that monica, still high

>>723294792
Holy fuck, that would be awesome.
This if they don't hero themselves on the way.

>>723294803
No problem, take the fat woman that look like the scum of the earth on the ship too, in a few years they would look like a fine piece of ass.

>>723294568
no , rover grabbed some mars soil and put radioactive food on it (combination of things like "if theres something it should choose something to eat") , waited half an hour or something like that and theyve recieved radioactive farts as microbes were eating , something was metabolising that food

I wonder if aliens make r34 of humans.

>>723294988
I said fuck all about it being possible. I think the zero point energy experiment is going to prove out to be an error. The thrust it supposedly generates is unbelievably miniscule.

What if we could tap the energy of other universes? That would bring all kinds of paradoxical and ethical questions.

>>723295055
Well, the breeding is not the problem. The education is the problem. I think the third generation would accidentally the whole thing.

>>723295055
>>>723294803
>No problem, take the fat woman that look like the scum of the earth on the ship too, in a few years they would look like a fine piece of ass.

You failed to include "educate their children so they can continue the mission", dude.

>>723295222
No some asshole would invent a religion and war would break out on the journey

>>723294824
ya i know and thats why
>>723291528

>>723295008
You missed the part about it requires more energy than exists by hundreds of times to operate. But I endorse NASA testing the hard science behind the theory.

>>723294803
It's actually an exponential relationship. In millions of years, human could take over the galaxy.

If we sent people capable of producing offspring, manufacturing, and basic engineering they would then build spaceships to inhabit the next planet. i.e. Earth = 1 --> 2 (yay!) --> 4 --> 8 --> universe

>>723286052
planets full of muslims and pakis with 12th century technology

>>723295226
Well honestly, if we ever sent people it would be a one way trip for colonizing purposes. The first thing man sends to exoplanets will be a robot. Or fuck maybe the first thing our robots send to an exoplanet will be another robot after we have ceased to exist.

>>723295220
>What if we could tap the energy of other universes?

More convoluted hyperbole on things that likely don't even exist. String Theory and Quantum don't promise that other universes exist - at best they mildly hint that it may be possible.
And every universe would certainly have its own cosmological constants - making the challenges of dealing with their energy (or mass) completely undefined, even assuming it exists in the first place.

I wouldn't bet on "energy from other universes"...ever.

Too many insanely small "maybes" with too many insurmountably large problems attached.

>>723286592
We need to learn how to create wormholes
Why go the long way when we can fold the universe to make a short way?
Okay in retrospect it sounds quite complicated but just stick with me on this one.

>>723286052
Looks like a planet for every mainstream religion. It might be viable.

>>723295645
I think the multiverse part is that theories downfall. There must be a more elegant solution that doesn't require mathematical smoke and mirrors to work out.

I think we are the only game in town.

>>723287471
are you retarded?

>>723295673
The Muslims can have that little shitty sand planet on the right and fuck off

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>>723286052
Obviously this proves Battlestar Galactica was based on real events

>>723295653
>We need to learn how to create wormholes

Stop trying to live in Gene Roddenbery's imaginary world. It's just that - imaginary.

Enterprise is like a "concept car" - really cool looking, but no engine, no brakes, and not even the hint of what is required to complete it.

>>723294349
just because lasers are cool doesnt mean they will solve problem how to travel to other stars , shooting hamsters with a sling still a better methond , but still fucked if you cant go faster than light

>>723286052
Fuck earth, let's get out of here. Let's pump all of NASA's budget into getting there.

>>723295800
>I think we are the only game in town.

I agree. For at least the next hundred generations or so, we have only ourselves for company...

>>723295645
As a follow up you are preaching to the choir. We aren't close to leaving the nursery any time soon. We probably will wipe ourselves out or our technologies will be our legacy to the cosmos. Shit is so insanely far away, and getting farther every day.

I love science fiction but I like science more

>>723295942
Why don't we just slow down light instead of trying to beat it

Yall are talking about ion engines and light sails and shit when the radiation on the way to Mars is impossible.

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Lots of autism here.

The significance of finding life outside of earth has some pretty deep philosophical effects. Might actually get some decent fucking funding to NASA for once too.

We don't need to be there physically to decide the likelihood of there being biological functions, we just need to test the light spectrum reflected off the planet and see if the elements in the atmosphere are likely to be compounds generated by a biological source.

I'm already certain that there is life elsewhere other than earth, and to believe otherwise is naive and egocentric in my opinion.

Main issue is that these planets are almost certainly not going to be habitable for many reasons, not least of which is the fact that such a tight and fast orbit around the star will most likely result in the planets being tidally locked, which reduces the chances of advanced multi cellular life emerging significantly due to the massive reduction of potential habitats to the ring regions in-between the light and dark sides.


Mostly I want to see religions try to move the goalposts again to account for life outside of earth while still maintaining that the earth is super special. Hoping that we see something within my lifetime.

>>723295942
>still fucked if you cant go faster than light
Which you cant
Ever

People watch SciFi and forget the Fi part. Then warp drive fucking 4 becomes etched in the consciousness despite its complete impossibility and people go full retard defending 'the possibility' on internet forums.

>>723296054
>Shit is so insanely far away, and getting farther every day.

Agreed, the universe is still expanding faster than we are growing into it, by many many orders of magnitude each day.

I love science fiction that is *actually* based in science. The rest is, well, just fiction.

>>723295942
Of course you cant, but light sail is a theoretically possible way to approach a decent percent of the speed of light, by reflecting light back at the other side of the sail you can also slow down.

It's all fantasy though. We can't work together as a species yet much less muster the will needed to mega structures needed to make this work.

I'll check back in a few thousand years. Kek

>>723296281
nope

Trump cut funding for NASA. It's imperative that he did.

NASA's "seven miracle planets" are bullshit. Nasa's baiting for funding.

And it's not going to happen.

Only thing is I'm sad we won't actually visit them before I'm dead and buried.

>>723296281
>Mostly I want to see religions try to move the goalposts again to account for life outside of earth while still maintaining that the earth is super special. Hoping that we see something within my lifetime.

Guaranteed. People won't believe it. No life on other planets is virtually impossible.

>>723296281
>Lots of autism here.

Welcome to 4chins...
Capitol of the Autistic Empire and city extrordinaire among the land of Oz.

>>723296250
That is a solvable problem. The immense size of space and humans finite lifespans are a different thing entirely.

>>723296358
Why don't we just go as fast as we can in the opposite direction it's expanding, wouldn't that maybe give us an edge?

>>723295558
i bet when we get contact with them we ll see they have exactly the same problemes as us with alien kind muslims

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>>723295942
It only matters to the people watching from earth, if you're traveling near light speed the journey duration will actually feel like you had been traveling faster than light due to time dilation.

It's a nice little loophole.

>>723296285
scientists try to squeeze or stretch spacetime but it still goes nowhere
so either speed of light is enough or this solar system is a prison , it will take fuckillion years to get anywhere

>>723296285
>Then warp drive fucking becomes etched in the consciousness despite its complete impossibility and people go full retard defending 'the possibility' on internet forums.

So fucking THIS. The autisticles go bonkers when you tell them Warp, or FTL, or whatever version of space hamsters on a galactic propulsion wheel they believe in, just isn't possible.

LMAO, just invented the word "autisticles".

I think there is still hope of finding alien tech or receiving (e.g. Contact) at any time could free us from light speed.

>>723296480
>NASA's "seven miracle planets" are bullshit. Nasa's baiting for funding.

Winner, winner.
Chicken dinner.

"Fake it 'till you make it...", or until you get busted faking it, anyway.

>>723296380
what if laser stops working or wont be able to hit the sail ? everything will get terribly fucked and that requires only a lil tiny mistake or problem to make it happen

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>>723294792

>the which would gag a maggot

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>>723296788
Again, time dilation sees to it that the travelers wont have to wait, say, 4 years to travel 4 light years away, it will appear shorter for them, so the speed limit is irrelevant to the ones moving. Only concerns the people on the outside looking in.

Theoretically we can travel much further than currently seems possible, albeit with the necessary sacrifice that if you did a round trip of 20 light years or so, hundreds of years will have passed on earth and your family and friends will be long dead.

>>723294013
I actualy agree with you anon. way I see it is the same everything is a hoax our reality as we see it is fake people should realise that even if life was ever found we would never be told because it would destroy all religion causing mass chaos

>>723296788
AI, as viewed as the offspring of man will be what earth sends out to the cosmos. If life exists it will have risen, and matured and died as civilization before finding others. The only thing that remains is thier robotic offspring, drifting forever alone in the darkness of time and space. A memory of a dream.

>>723296559
>if you're traveling near light speed the journey duration will actually feel like you had been traveling faster than light due to time dilation.

Your ass will dilate, making it easier for you to get fucked by a space whale for dozens of 'objective' lifetimes along the way. R34 gets a whole new category along the way...

>>723288924
No they haven't you fucktard.
Yes there's some evidence pointing towards Mars maybe harboring some form of microbial life, we do NOT know yet.

>>723297249
Wow, did you think of that all by yourself? You must have been top dog in your remedial studies class.

>>723297053
Them the breaks. You leave and then hope fuhrer Trump the LXXVIII doesn't cut funding for the maintenance for your only way of stopping.

>>723296959
>free us from light speed.

Being "freed" from our cosmological constants is just a grand euphemism for death. Get over it.

>>723297378
We build the spaceship and make the aliens pay for it. It's that simple.

>>723297423
When we fink the aliens, we bill them. And take their oil.

>>723296559
ya i know faster you move your inner clock is ticking slower and reaching exact speed of light would make it stop so from your viewpoint everything would be passing by fast like fuck trough window but that still requires a fuckload of energy and a really tough spaceship to handle that - that might be impossible to make when all sources of energy and materials will be not enough

>>723296285
It is just 40ish years at near light speed, and we could reach close to light speed with current tech, even if we didn't get to more than 50% of light speed it's still very doable to explore it in a few hundred years.

It's way exciting.

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>>723297423
Kek. Need some levity against the existential angst deep contemplation of our place in the scheme of things engenders.

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>>723297382
To be fair, if we found a way to fold spacetime it would "free" us from the constraints of lightspeed, although something like that currently requires more energy that we could ever hope to be able to generate.

Nice pseudo philosophy though.

>>723286052
Space Jews

>>723297241
That's fucking depressing

>>723297524
Yeah I'm not saying that we could do it, but the theory is pretty sound, so it IS technically possible.

>>723297219
>way I see it is the same everything is a hoax

Hoaxes, rumors, fabrications, and outright lies are the panacea of the masses. Always have been, always will be.
Starting with "don't worry about it, everything will work out in the end."
Believe in religion or not, the end remains the same annihilation of physical existence. Call it "judgement day" or "big meteor", or whatever, in the end death will take the victory lap...

>>723297180 >>723297241

>>723297524

>>723297549
Chances are if you left, technology would advance to a point before you arrived that another mission would pass you on the way there.

>>723297713
>"don't worry about it, everything will work out in the end."

that has seriously always worked for me. any given problem i had has always been cleared up by someone else if i let it slide long enough. maybe i'm just good at it or have a line of bullshit a mile long, i don't know.

>>723297382
You never know, some autist's HDD might fail and loose all his Disney r34, in a fit of rage, trip and hit his head, and come up with some radical equations

>>723297343
>>>723297249 (You)
>Wow, did you think of that all by yourself?

Sarcasm, dude. Learn to love it. Its the cure for autism like yours. And, FWIW, been an engineer for 28 years. Undergrad at West Point and two grad degrees - one at Northwestern and the other at MIT. Didn't bother with a doctorate - I figured out that my theory was way beyond what I could ever implement, and you don't earn money doing your doctoral thesis... so I stayed at IBM and made a lotta money. Now I troll here when I need some comic relief.

The autisti-kiddies here really haven't a clue about real life. They're so fun to troll...

>>723293198
>cant travel faster than light
>40 light years away
>probably less or some shit for the object going there because fucking relativity
>thinks it would take 5 years
>you fucking idiot



>>723294252
underated post

it was a good thread
now everyone suicide and check whats after death

>>723297708
>Yeah I'm not saying that we could do it, but the theory is pretty sound, so it IS technically possible.

Sound theory is not the same thing as technical feasibility.

NOT.
EVEN.
CLOSE...

>>723291124
that's implying we don't advance and find new faster ways to travel. We can't go as fast as light, but we certainly can speed it up.

>>723296554

Kek

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>>723298160
For someone who claims to be educated. you don't seem to even have a basic understanding of what sarcasm is.

Sarcasm: 'the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.'

Irony: the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

Please explain which part was 'sarcasm' as I didn't see any ironic elements in there.
I know 'muricans have a hard time understanding what irony actually means so I thought giving you the definition might help.

>>723297819
Assuming cosmological constants don't change in the mean time, no.
Like I said we can already get close to light speed now, and if we had a Musk-like global leadership, and thus the funding, we could launch such a mission, right now.

>>723298136
>>>723297382 (You)
>You never know, some autist's HDD might fail and loose all his Disney r34, in a fit of rage, trip and hit his head, and come up with some radical equations

Yeah, I'll hold my breath for that...

And for the infinite monkey troupe to reproduce Shakespeare...

Which do you think will win?
The massively impossible "genius infinity" gambit, or the massively non-linear one off 'mad scientist has amazing accident' gambit?

>>723298335
Bullshit. If you have the knowledge, the how is just a question of money and a bit of time.

>>723286592
do you know what traveling near the speed of light does to a human body?

we'd have to send robots, not to mention horrible space radiation

>>723298944
There's always loopholes and breakthroughs. You can either an optimist, and hope for the best, or a stick in the mud and moan about everything. I choose the former.

>>723298640
>Please explain which part was 'sarcasm'

Doesn't see the superlative irony in discussing the profoundly rigorous technical requirements of interstellar travel with a bunch of self-admitted autistic kids, on the same board where they spend so much collective energy celebrating the most base and yet banal forms of pornography...

Nope, no irony to see here. Move along...

>>723297708
about that energy source , its said that antimatter is the best possible source because it hits matter and they go fuck themselves turning in 100% into energy , but also fuck antimatter lets say we have a method to crack matter and turn 100% of it into energy without problem of getting antimatter firts - were still fucked because that would consume giantic amounts of matter to make light speed engine running

>>723299303
Absolutely nothing as long as you don't accelerate there in a jiffy.

>>723291843
The United States annual defense budget is 3 trillion dude.

>>723299303
ah so the g-force is only during the burns?

the expanse science

>>723298683
We could launch the basic research for that mission right now. We have huge problems to crack, the rocket equation is a cruel mistress. Personally I would just love a manned mission to Mars and a return mission to visit the Jovian sattelites with long term observation capabilities.

You are talking multi trillion dollar amounts to get people past the heliopause and there are huge amounts of starving people that might object to that spending.

>>723299294
>Bullshit. If you have the knowledge, the how is just a question of money and a bit of time.

Really?

I've got the money if you've got the time... and the know-how.

So, where's your mommy's basement? I'll come get you so you can work on it with me.

>>723299409
No...

You don't need a lot of thrust, in fact you need an infinitesimally small amount. Over the course of years you'd keep on accelerating almost ad infinitum.

we need to start assembling rockets in orbit, its the only way we will get humans past mars

>>723299581
Of course. Because gravity is acceleration. Once you cease speeding up you back to micro gravity.

Good show BTW. Can't wait to DL the next season.

>>723299310
>There's always loopholes and breakthroughs. You can either an optimist, and hope for the best, or a stick in the mud and moan about everything. I choose the former.

You can either make a religion out of an imaginary future you can never see, or you can put your time and effort into improving the life you have, where and when you have it.
I choose the latter.

>>723286052
wouldn't get your hopes up

>TRAPPIST-1 is an ultracool dwarf star that is approximately 8% the mass of and 11% the radius of the Sun.

this means planets would have to orbit incredibly close to the star. so one year on a TRAPPIS-1 planet would be anywhere between
1.5 days to 13 days. I'm not sure how elliptical the orbits are but it would mean you have summer spring autumn and winter all within 13 days. life would have to be extremely adaptable or resilient but nature has amazed me time and time again so maybe if there are creatures on these planets. they highly depend on it and can't imagine a living environment like ours.

>>723299581
Uhm, yes?

>>723299778
Being optimistic about scientific progress is a religion?

>>723286052
Not too excited.
Proxima Centauri B is like five light years away and also in the habitable zone. It's amazing of course but close earth-like planets are old news.

>>723299799
We "assume" atmosphere when we talk about life, an atmosphere would null out those changes making it one long pretty-much-identically slough through all the seasons.

>>723299400
I was referring to your self proclaimed usage of sarcasm which is non existent. Seems to have gone over your head a little bit.

I have had very little in the form of rebuttal or discussion because I actually know what I'm talking about. I didn't ask for your opinion as to where I'm allowed to express my thoughts, so maybe, just maybe you should keep your shit-tier insights to yourself?

>>723299680
well the sad truth is antimatter is not really "WOW AWESOME IMPROVEMENT SINCE ATOMIC BOMBS !!! "
just look at LHC how much energy it eats to accelerate just single protons while you want to push a big ass ship

>>723289549
> Here is the 4chan tin-capped moron in it's natural habitat

>>723286052
Big whoop, we haven't even been to Mars and you faggots are tripping about shit in another solar system.

i think we have more important shit on our own planet to deal with. but of course there are people who can work in this domain.

>>723299581
The speed isn't what will fuck you up, it's the acceleration. Same reason why going 200mph in a bullet train doesn't rupture your organs due to the acceleration rate, it isn't going from 0-200 instantly which would indeed fuck you up.

>>723300300
ya LHC has nothing to do with atomic bombs i just wrote about 2 things in 1 place

>>723286052
Doesn't matter. They are so far away we will never see them or visit them

>>723286052
NASA has "discovered" stuff like this before only to be wrong. When it's 100% prover, then I'll be impressed.

>>723299583
>You are talking multi trillion dollar amounts to get people past the heliopause and there are huge amounts of starving people that might object to that spending.

Science is a cruel mistress, but she is as close to eternal as we're going to get in this world. Those people, on the other hand, will die, whether of starvation this month, or something else in the not-too-distant future.
Everyone dies. But not every one really lives - most just subsist in their ignorance and filth.

Philosophy is the foundational science of all things, because it teaches us how to pursue Truth, and how not t believe that which cannot be true.

Or, in other words, it teaches us how to recognize and pursue our potential - as individuals and as a species/race. Those who refuse that education, deserve what they get out of life, as well as what they don't get out of it.

No one deserves to live - that is the fundamental tenet of life: it is struggle. It has to be fought for.
Not through war, or religion, or other simple, old things, but through discovering or creating something new. The life of the mind - that's what matters most. The rest is just animal instincts groping for subsistence. It's empty without the spark of reason, curiosity, and human aspiration...

>>723300131
I didn't know that.I thought it was all based on the position and orientation of the planet

>>723286052
complete meh until we have near light speed engines, even then tis a 40+ year trip.

Or is this supposed to answer the "is there life outside of earth?" question. cuse the odds are infinitesimally small that Earth is in fact unique

>>723286857
Obama used NASA to build a relationship with sand niggers.
Cuck

>>723286052
typical manipulation from NASA for muricans: "our budget is reasonable to spend so much billions from taxpayers' money" on dreams ,only we can find another dead worm proof of life

>>723286052
John?

>>723286052
I
Hope they have some sexy aliens

>>723300616
i imagine cryo pods would have long been invented before light speed travel

You're a brainwashed idiot if you believe in this lol

Probably important for our distant future.

The star will outlive ours by literally a trillion years, and it's orbited by 3 or 4 easy to terraform worlds. It's a pretty obvious one to go to in order to expand.

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>dont forget about me

>>723299764
season 2 is out right now nigga, new episode 5 tonight

>>723300758
That's a pretty watertight argument you have there. Care to elaborate a little bit?

so like humans are a virus, killing one planet after the other, no wonder why aliens hate us

>>723299900
>Being optimistic about scientific progress is a religion?

Holding fantastic and unjustified expectations of science and technology corrodes it's rational and achievable character, replacing them with a fantasy that is no different from a cult or religion.

>>723286052

amazing, but depressing that such things are so far, yet seem so close.

>>723300835
Is it on TPB? Or whatever else. I haven't done much downloading since KAT got shut down.

>>723300819
are you implying we should contaminate the planets before they get smart enough to wipe us out?

>>723300964
tpb, putlocker, ect

>>723299583
Yeah we can't and we won't now, I know. But I assumed a global leadership, which means we wouldn't need the whole military bit, nor need to worry about starvation. We could focus efforts on cool shit instead.

>>723300300
You don't need antimatter, an old fashioned fission reactor provides more than enough thrust.

>>723300882
>that is no different from a cult or religion
That is nothing like a cult or religion. Take a bic lighter into the past, 3000 years, it would be explained as 'magic' or 'supernatural ' the same will be true of future technology, and unlike religion, science has a track record of actual progress.

>>723300794
No star will burn for trillions of years. Many go off main sequence in a matter of tens of millions. In a trillion years the universe will be a cold place with the few stars clusters that still burn (if at all) will be alone in an inky void. White dwarves will long past cooled to the point they give off almost no IR. Anything that evolves and looks up at the cosmos will never think to explore the stars because when they look up they will only see blackness.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yzuv3rqHfw

This is now a The Expanse thread
even then they are stuck to a small area of our solar system with their huge warships and shit, only the mormons have a ship to get to proxima b

>>723301140
I hope we learn to take care of each other that well. Maybe our coming robot overlords will be benevolent. But I imagine they will inherit and fullfil our wildest dreams alone, long after we are gone.

>>723301573
Creating AI will make us gods.

>>723300616
>implying astronomy is about searching for vacation spots

>>723301140
>But I assumed a global leadership, which means we wouldn't need the whole military bit,

First mistakes tend to be the biggest ones.
Again, you're (one of the ones) living in Gene Roddenberry's fantasy world.
We're no closer to having a "good" and "unified" world government than we are to launching a manned mission beyond the solar system.

Frankly, I believe that the whole 'world government' problem is far larger and more pressing than some question of possible life on some distant rock.
"Government" is holding us back from lots of high achievements and noble aspirations, right now.
Will more government, a.k.a. "global government" do an better?

And if not, then what is our alternative?

Big problems, close to home, obscure much of the horizon. Where do we begin?

>>723301614
Or maybe they are the gods and we are the Titans.