Reminder that if you're a liberal you're an enemy

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>>723243914
I'm just here to trigger you alt-right snowflakes

>>723244002

hillary lost

>>723244002
Are you kidding me? That's their favorite jackoff material right there!

>>723244002
more like you're just a cuck with a fetish for black dick

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>>723244002
If he gets what he wants, the destruction of 4chan, you'll have nowhere to shitpost.

Centrist master race, faggot

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>>723243914

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>>723244002

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I am "liberal" (in the American sense). I am not a faggot like this cuck though >>723244002

AMA

>>723244002
>implying people don't enjoy this
There are loli, trap, and dickrate threads on /b/ all the time. I'm only surprised loli-traps aren't a thing on here yet

>enemy to this website

Like that's a fucking atrocity or something.

>>723244385
>I'm only surprised loli-traps aren't a thing on here yet
That is pretty much just shota which has been around for a donkey's age

>>723244432
I guess you're right. Scat hasn't caught on here, yet

>>723243914
The enemy of a website? What could that possibly mean?

>>723244002
Not even a cuck, self hating nigger detected.

>>723243914
Thats not true. Since when is having a different political opinion from someone make you an enemy. I dont care about the alt righters here. Good for them having their own views I get a lot of it. Especially the nigger stuff.

>>723243914
>sanctions against the us

he is delusional. no threat at all.

>>723243914
You're drunk Trump, go to bed. You have lots of temper tantrums to have tomarrow.

Fucking Jew piece of shit ! Why are Jews so hell bent on destroying America

>>723243914
I don't need to be reminded.

>(((Wise)))
Every time!

>>723244043

Damn you got him good

>>723243914
>>723243914
I am a liberal but as in the old fashion way, not the 72 genders, if you say something I don't like I'm gonna sue you kinda way.

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Beep Beep lettuce

>>723243914
Preach it brother! We will NOT be silenced! We WILL fight for Online Media Justice! We are united and we will shout until our voices are heard!!!

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>>723248116

I'm so tired of seeing these triggering anti-Trump messages. Why hasn't Trump enacted online safe spaces yet? I thought he was going to protect us, now he's ignoring us. Also I still don't have a job and my mom says I have to move out. What should I do

>>723243914
As an An-communist (ideally) and Socialist (in practice), we hate the fucking liberals as much as you do.

They want the status quo. We want radical change. The right want "change" but in the same direction it's already going (restricting social liberty whilst butt fucking the poor people)

>>723248228
>Why hasn't Trump enacted online safe spaces yet?
>I thought he was going to protect us

Crying about safe spaces yet asking for protection a.k.a safe spaces

>>723243914
*your

>>723248428
ur*

>>723244272
How's highschool?

>>723244108
Lol oh word? All these shitposters arw gunna just disappear huh

>>723243914
Alt right doesn't exist and nazis were defeated decades ago and the last few died of old age.

Find a new windmill to fight.

>>723244002
Come on, Anon - you're just a little White Alt Cuck faggot that loves nigger dicks and dreams of being a bitch gang raped by niggers. Your Father should beat you within an inch of your life for being such a pathetic nigger dick loving faggot degenerate.

Hey this is a special safe place for us liberals. We need a place to shit post and call people faggots and niggers just like the rest of you. We don't get to do it else where or we'll get kicked out of the club and won't be able to have sex with our hairy feminist ladies we love so much.

>>723248563
>war is peace
>ignorance is strength
>freedom is slavery
ayy

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>>723248640

alt right stand up and fight

>>723248447
no u

Eh, if you vote for and hardline with either major U.S. party you're an enemy of the site.

>>723249507
it works perfectly well in countries with comparable values.... northern Europe for example they get health care education and infrastructure spending and are ranked far above us in the life satisfaction indices ...we get ....the war in iraq?... the opportunity to purchase the best possible health care if we are rich enough.

some socialism is a good thing, obviously.

Full left liberal and proud. Mostly stick around here to laugh at how pathetic /pol/, /r9k/, and /v/ are.

>>723243914
tim wise is a joke among leftists

>>723244258
lost

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>>723249893
/cringe/

>>723249765
Scandinavian countries aren't socialist...

I know the US education system isn't big on nuance these days but damn.

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>>723249970
Sure kid

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lol conservative retards

>>723249987
jeeesus christ you had better be joking. they are social democracies... nobody is suggesting pure socialism is a good idea. both extremes on the spectrum are not a good idea, essential services shouldnt be entirely for profit because then only the rich will have access to them...this will stunt social mobility and make the best things in life forever the preserves of already families.

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>>723250026
no really. Image macros? Is it 2009 again? How old are you exactly gramps

>>723250026
and living as an authentic human being is, coincidentally, to live exactly as the mid-twentieth-century capitalist subject the Frankfurt School fetishised

>>723250149
republican morons love their strawman arguments

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>>723249507
I'd fuck it.

>>723250266
Seems accurate

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>>723250191
Sure kid

>>723250463
back then the democrats were the southern racists. Look up Goldwater Strategy ya dumb child.

>>723244002
Really? You think I care about some fucking butterface?

>>723250529
you cared enough to respond fuckface

>>723250149
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model

You goddamn moron....

>>723250570
shut it you fucking cuck

Righties can't make a point without a flawed-logic meme.

>>723250578
>citing wikipedia
that doesn't refute his point you goddamn moron

>>723250637
lol triggered snowflake!

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>>723250521
No they weren't, you idiot. When the fuck do you think Malcolm X was alive? How stupid are you precisely? The republicans and democrats switched just before Lincoln was elected, 100 years BEFORE Malcolm X said this. Stop trying to spin some propaganda. He was speaking TO blacks about how the Democrats of today exploit the fuck out of them. You are a brainwashed moron trying to rewrite history. You're a tool, a joke, and fucking pathetic.

>>723250653
lol hahaha look at the cuckold hahaha! I am a nigger in real life hahaha i fuck your mom hahaha

>>723250668
GOLDWATER STRATEGY

look it up kiddo

>>723250668
>Malcom X was speaking to blacks about how things are today
>in 2017
>he died in 1965

You are a special kind of stupid

>>723250578
The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism[1] or Nordic social democracy refers to the economic and social policies common to the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland and Sweden). This includes a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level.

The Nordic model (also called Nordic capitalism or Nordic social democracy) refers to the economic and social policies common to the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland and Sweden). This includes a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level.

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>>723250668
We should listen to this guy when he talks about the 60s, I mean he lived through it. Glad to see you oldsters taking up the internet, good on you!

>>723250578

The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.

>>723250526
wheres the like button

>>723250862
Hahaha the cuck has lost! He has resorted to images!

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it's like Republicans want to return to being serfs for their corporate lords

>>723250521
>>723250724
So, sometime between the 1860s and 1936, the (Democratic) party of small government became the party of big government, and the (Republican) party of big government became rhetorically committed to curbing federal power

http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

In the speech, which was delivered on April 3, 1964, at Cory Methodist Church in Cleveland, Ohio, Malcolm advised African Americans to judiciously exercise their right to vote, but he cautioned that if the government continued to prevent African Americans from attaining full equality

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballot_or_the_Bullet

>hurr 1860-1936
>duhhh 1964
>same time period
>liberal logic

Liberal lies and "logic" fall apart every time simple facts are applied. Every time.

Kek

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>>723250941
he will continue to respond folks, he can't stop himself

>>723250643
I can hardly send him a book in the mail to prove him wrong. If there is anything in the wiki article you think is wrong then feel free to point it out but just saying that it's wrong because it's wiki doesn't really do much.

The point is that the Scandinavian countries aren't socialist, they are free market capitalists with a safety net.

>>723250941
>someone posted an image
>i must have won the argument!
jesus fuck this level of autism

>>723250989
>cites wikipedia again
while you're there you should look up the GOLDWATER STRATEGY

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>>723250776
Clearly that's not what I said and you're trying to spin my words. You're an idiot and a tool.

>He was speaking TO blacks about how the Democrats of today exploit the fuck out of them

He was speaking TO blacks (of the 60s) about how the Democrats of today (the same democratic party of today) was exploiting the fuck out of them.

If your reading comprehension really is that bad, you probably shouldn't be on fucking 4chan to begin with you clown.

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>>723251068
>doesn't into academic citation
gtfo child

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>>723251125
GOLDWATER STRATEGY

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>>723251173
Sure kid

>>723250809
According to sociologist Lane Kenworthy, in the context of the Nordic model, "social democracy" refers to a set of policies for promoting economic security and opportunity within the framework of capitalism rather than a system to replace capitalism.

Capitalist, not socialist.

>>723251125
>The Democratic party of the 60s is the same Democratic party of 2017
You're just digging your hole deeper here gramps

>>723251068
who ever said that the Scandinavian countries were socialist... social democracy doesn't mean socialist, they have socialized medicine and education... why cant right wingers understand this simple fact.

are you all still so gripped in red panic?.

>>723250941
Ever heard the phrase: "A picture says a thousand words."?

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>>723244108
Nothing of value lost

>>723251267
nobody ever said they were socialist countries ,

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>>723251285
Comparative to what they were in the 1850s, they absolutely are. I guess critical thinking fails all you libtard faggots. Or you just think you're "clever" by playing stupid when facts don't support your argument. The rest of the country's laughing at you idiots and for good reason, you're a fucking joke.

>>723243914
>on /b/ to """trigger""" altright
>not on /pol/
retard. most /b/tards are libcucks. look a all the "cucold threads" and "trannie treads" and "anti trump threads"
kys newfag

>Donald Trump is 70 years old, obese, eats KFC and McDonalds and has one of the most stressful jobs on earth
>you will live to see him wither and die and go down in history as an embarrassment
What a time to be alive

>>723251375
Yeah gramps I was totally comparing them to what they were in the 1850s. Cause that makes sense.

You seriously are dumb as fuck, I'm not just saying that as an insult. You're literally stupid.

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>>723243914
>painful destruction of 4chan trolls
good luck with that, enjoy your pizzas

>>723251296
It seems to be more of a American problem. The right looks down upon Scandinavia because they think we are socialists and the left looks up to Scandinavia because they think we prove that socialism works. Both are wrong.

>>723250266
Except for the silly bit where you pretend New Zealand is Hawaii, seems pretty accurate

>>723251535
only if you take an all or nothing approach to socialism like a child.

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>>723251492
The other anon was, I was just following suit. This is why no one takes you idiots seriously, you're full of double standards and hypocrisy that a 5 year old could tear to shreds with basic logic

Kek

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>>723244002
With your delusional fantasies

>>723249507
It actually works, faggot

go put some coins up your ass

>>723250902
Are you saying that we should mimic a country that is predominantly white?

>>723251683
I think you're just too old to keep up gramps. I'm sure you're very popular with your facebook friends though.

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>>723251741
Great scholarly rebuttal you absolute moron.

kek

>>723243914
I voted for Obama twice and Hillary most recently but have been on 4chan since I was a HS senior in 06

>>723251748
no. im saying that education and healthcare shouldnt be just for rich people

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>>723251782
Again you're nothing short of indoctrinated, brainwashed, and your hypocrisy doesn't fly here.

>>723251741
How come it never has even though it has been tried over and over again?

>>723250500
fuck no , hes yours now

>>723251782
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>>723251852
How's your fascist liberal ideology been to you guys the past 4 years?
Oh wait. Common OTC medicines and antibiotics tripled in cost (Remember when a ZPak was 20 bucks and an EpiPen was 15?) and California is in an irreversible drought due to irresponsible water usage.

Yeah. Liberalism and western democracy does wonders for both healthcare and the environment!

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>>723244043
Savage... Except i don't think he gives a shit.

Honestly dying in a nuclear holocaust is worth it not to have Hillary's dumb fucking face on money.

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>>723249970

>>723251852
Us spends same if not more than most countries including the Nordic ones.

What will we gain by spending more?

>>723250724
here's some dumb faggot calling ppl 'kiddos'

meanwhile, he heard about the goldwater strategy yesterday in google news headlines in regards to trying to kick trump out of office

>>723251960

fuck off nigger, I live on socialist system and it works just fine, maybe it has some setbacks like corruption or manipulation of information, but nothing to do compared to shitty yankee bubble dream ruled by enterprises.

>>723252172
What system so I can make fun of you

>>723252170
this.


calling someone kiddo is the new "you're a virgin"

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>>723252172
>I live on socialist system and it works just fine

>setbacks like corruption or manipulation of information

holy kek this is really how these idiots define "just fine" ahahah

>>723250946

and what do you know? america has gotten progressively shittier and more totalitarian over the years

nice picture, you're just assuming things are getting better and everyone else is crazy

>>723252054
NASA gave birth to a whole generation of skilled engineers and scientists which we still benift from today. Those are just the side effects of what spending can do.

A direct effect could be the prestige of landing on the moon it will be EVER lasting as a landmark in human history. It's an achievement that'll stand taller than the pyramids till the end of all civilization.

Free market cannot, and would not have achieved that. The space race was ignited by the Soviet Union as a side project when building missiles and forced the US to join in on that race and come to dominate it. This COULD NOT have been done without the government and spending.

>>723251807

I could explain you why but I think you alone will realise over time. Greetings from sociologist on socialist country, i hope the distorted reality u live in will soon pop

>>723243914
just because he's a bit ignorant and lumping 4chan into the alt-right group doesn't mean he's wrong about the alt-right and nazis.

>>723244108
If someone is capable of shutting down one of the most popular websites on the internet because people he doesn't like go to it than we are going to have way bigger problems than not being able to shitpost

>>723252326
*yawn*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
idiot.

>>723248656
nice deepities

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>>723252330
You've got a far greater rate of failure than my country, friend. Don't call us when you need to be bailed out and have fun in those bread lines

>>723252280
found the retarded hick who voted for Dumpf

>>723252557
Found the fascist, bigoted liberal that throws media buzzwords around to get attention because he has nothing to say of substance.

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>>723252481
Yes German scientists were key. Your point? Literally changes nothing about my argument.

Are you genuinely retarded or just pretending to stay on welfare?

>>723251575
The temptation to take the bait is so strong. Sooooooo strong.

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>>723252557
>name-calling because he has no logical rebuttal

typical. so typical and sad.

>>723252043
sheep

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>>723243914
I'm liberal. Your comment amuses me.

>>723252326
Right... My question is if the US is already in the upper side of spending per student yet failing in international tests... Why do you think additional spending will rectify this.

All I see in this thread is millennials crying wanting to be like predominantly white Nordic countries, reminiscing in times when the us population was 80% white, and increasing expenditure for no reason.

Please continue to tell me you're not racist

>>723252280
>>723252280

Well, I define the setbacks my system has, u put a fucking shitty meme and close ur eyes while thinking u live in paradise while dying poor people, social inequality, estrategies like profitable conflicts etc... in the end u are a bunch of manipulated, ignorant, arrogant people.
When the eagle falls, I will be laughing my ass off.

>>723252524
If say a country like Denmark can be compared to a Country like the Soviet Union, then i take it that comparing the US to the democracy in Iraq is fair too.

In which case Republics and democracies have the highest failure rate BY FAR. This is a dumb argument. Some form of monarchy or rule by the nobles would have the highest success rate. Doesn't mean it's the ideal type of government.

Need to stretch this is not an endorsement of socialism. Just your argument is downright retarded.

>>723252641
the point is, it wasnt nasa. they werent even americans. our space program now is pathetic. we have no way to carry astronauts into space without russia. and spacex is a joke compared to apollo11 technology FOURTY EIGHT YEARS AGO. but hey, keep living in your fantasy land.

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>>723252651
k retard

>>723252651
You can keep your loony nigger.

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>>723252751
Stay jealous of our freedom, you faggot sperglord. You sold your soul for a few peanuts from your government. You're a fucking disgrace and the US will never be like you.

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>>723252730
>pretends he isnt racist
>calls others bigoted for having a presence
Liberal fascism, ladies and gentlemen.

>>723252772
only because he associates himself with retards. both are idiots but for different reasons. congrats on lacking commons sense.

>>723252645
Gosh darn it, anon didn't fall for it!

>>723252797
Those men were hired by NASA you complete fucking buffoon. They were the floor bed of NASA in it's early days, many by willing choice.

And now NASA has been crippled. By fucking assholes like you who is more concerned about his pocket pussy collection than having mankind achieve ANYTHING of worth.

>>723252818
>cites vaccines and autism
>vaccines cause autism is 100% a movement born out of liberal extremism perpetrated by a health report filed by a corrupt UK doctor now in jail for filing that report piggy-backing on the infamy of a former playboy model whose son is autistic whose mother blamed vaccinations with no concrete evidence
Liberal lies.
Fake news.
Fascism at its' finest.

>>723252797
Lol... We have rovers on Mars singing happy b day to themselves just for the luls. Get the fuck out of here thinking that 40 year technology is better

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>>723252839
>keep your loony nigger

Damn. Liberals showing how tolerant and non-racist they are yet again. Tell me, chucklehead, you think you're smarter than this "loony nigger" too?

>>723252950
cherry picking. Trumps retard army at it's finest

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>>723252907
>found the liberal hypocrite

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>>723252984
Again the same retarded argument.

Look at Republics for the first 4000 years of humanity.

Failure, upon failure, upon failure, upon failure.

Look at monarchies. They generally tended to achive stability and much more success than the divided republics.

Republics is an anomaly with notable examples as Rome or the early Greek City states.

But if you stand by that argument you have to accept that Republics have the highest failure rate OF ANY form of government.

>>723253043
>everyone is either liberal or alt-right

NO stupid. I'm moderate and educated, something you idiot Trump supporters are not.

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>>723253102
Wrong. Kys faggot. Your argument doesn't hold water.

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>>723253121
Sure kid, sure.

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>>723253175
What a counter argument.

>>723253120
>Conservative
>Facts

Pick one

>>723252818
> The War on Science
> Genetically modified food is evil
> Typical Republicans
CEOs hate GMOs, not the dirty hippy organic types?

kek

>>723253229
I actually agree with the other poster, Trump supporters are the biggest bitches in the land.

>>723252947
No, they had a choice between being prosecuted by the US or USSR for war crimes and involvement in V2 program. Gee I wonder what side you would choose to make a deal with? Off to the gulag with you. The only shitters that crippled nasa was your boys bush/obama. Which im sure your stupid ass voted for.

>>723252952
We were doing the same thing on the moon before we sent people there dipshit. Sending a probe is easy mode compared to human cargo. Nasa couldnt even send an astronaut to the moon with 2017 technology they are that pathetic.

>>723252984
Quoting Alan West the craziest nigger politician there ever was. That's really good.

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>>723253346
They really are the most unique sensitive snowflakes around.

It's honestly worse than the sjw's when gamergate was going on.

>>723243914
Daily Reminder

Reality is always the opposite of what a cuckservative says. True!

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>>723253356
>>723253356
You missed the point.

People like von braun saw going to the US with some degree of excitement.

People like von braun didn't wanna work on fucking v2 rockets, his dream was getting to the moon. Working for NASA is the best thing that ever happend to him.

>>723253297
Lol wut, please bring facts that show how socialism works. Please bring facts that show a pay gap exists, please bring facts that show black lives matter is a thing, please bring facts that show how we can sustain half the programs the left wants to implement...lolololol

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>>723243914
25th amendment. Soon.

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>>723253102
That's an argument against republics and for monarchy. Which to some degree is valid -- the great success of monarchies throughout isn't that they were fair or nice, but that they were stable. By providing a clear successor to the current ruler, they prevented a civil war every 20 years. But republics have proven themselves as a force for stability, in the past century. They work well in the modern world, which is vastly different from most of history.

That's not an argument in support of socialism, however.

>>723243914
Oh. So where as a liberal Trump supporter would you reccomend me to go. It's you conservatives who don't belong here.

>>723253649
Gayest meme ever.

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>>723253788
It wasn't meant to support socialism.

It was meant to point out the flawed logic in your argument, you can't always judge a government type by it's success or failure rate. I think Democracy is the best government we have around today, especially with modern technology that enables so much more of it's potential.

But it still has the highest failure rate of any type of government, meaning if we were to judge it by the logic of your argument it'd be bad.

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>>723253896
Really tho. Mike Pence won't be any fun as President.

>>723251138
The citations are at the bottom, bud.

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>>723253907
>you can't always judge a government type by it's success or failure rate

Uh....yes you can, idiot.

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>>723254009
In that case.

Democracy is shit. Let's get monarchs back.

Can't wait for that good old roll of the monarch dice.

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>>723243914
The unwashed drunk and lying cunt whore agree with you.

>>723252858

The concept of FREEDOM your system gives you is only related to economic LIBERALISM.
Economic freedom is not equal to real subject freedom, understanding it as a collective without reality distortions or ideological/lifestyle/comsumerism/a motherfucking long imposed etcetera.

Aprended la jodida diferencia, mindundis.

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>>723243914

Youre on a website promoting, transexuality, furries, homosexuality and every freedom internet could offer saying liberals dont belong here?

Go back to africa conservatard

Trolls trolling trolls.

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>>723254047
Not sure why you keep referring to monarchs when they're not related at all to trash-ass socialism (communism) that literally always fails no matter where it's implemented, but it's a false equivalency. Look kid, you want socialism so bad move somewhere that has it. The US is not that place and never will be.

>>723253937
I like him. I don't see Trump lasting. The Republicans are starting to panic along with the rest of the world.

>>723253907
Not my argument, anon. That was my only post on that subject.

Though the parallels you're trying to draw between republics and socialism is still specious. A string of failures in the distant past followed by a string of successes in the (vastly different) modern era can't be compared to a socialism, which (in any real recognizable form) is an invention of the modern era.

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>>723254182
Alright you're incapable of reading.

>It wasn't meant to support socialism.

It was meant to point out the flawed logic in your argument, you can't always judge a government type by it's success or failure rate. I think Democracy is the best government we have around today

Honestly how are you even typing if you can't even read?

>>723254283
Fak.. Fucked up my green text.

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>>723254238
I agree with you. But Trump has been the most fun i had for a while. Even when it gets scary

>>723254294
that guy has one of those giant potato noses, doesn't he?

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>>723254240
Fair but. If we continue to simply judge these things with no context even modern democracies have a relatively high failure rate.

Now in context many of these "Democracies" weren't actually democracies.

Honestly that's all i'm asking for. A more nuanced argument than THIS IS BAD CAUSE STALIN AND THIS IS GOOD CAUSE JEFFERSON.

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>>723254361
Our civilization and life as we know it on this planet will continue with Pence. With Trump nobody knows what will happen.

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>>723254694
Doesn't that just make it all the more exciting?

>>723254736
Yes. The news is riveting every day.

>>723254472
Well, you seem to be mostly arguing with quotes on images, not people.

And the failure conditions of republics (let's go back to the correct term, because there are no true democracies) have been pretty well documented. They work best in well educated, relatively wealthy, and fairly unified nations. They tend to fail when nations are poorly educated and torn by tribalism.

Socialism has some successes, and some of its basic principles (like a social safety net) have been almost universally adopted by those republics. But the stronger forms tend to drag down the economy.

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>>723254816
To be fair tho. I think we're getting close to enacting the 25th aswell. But the issues won't go away, you're gonna have a hefty 10-20% of the population who think they've been wrongfully robbed of the only hope they had.

You sadly can't justify this to them. It won't be pretty.

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>>723254840
Completely agree. When your Unions seek to undermine industry you get shit like the UK.

When they seek to work with Industry you get mostly reasonable laws and ways of doing things.

For example Denmark does not have a minimum wage set by the government, but despite that everyone is guaranteed wages much higher than those in the US. Alot of it really is down to healthy institutions aswell.

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>>723254921
It will be ugly. It's inevitable though. The unhappy percentage of people that can't accept Trump's ouster will have to consider "self-deportation."

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>>723247650
It's easy to trigger libshit snowflakes :^)

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>>723255261
too easy

Anti-Trump Protester Shredded Live on Air

"I Made the Mistake of Taking You Seriously"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57Pr0vc3BE [Embed] [Remove]

Can't even verbalize or say why they're protesting or what they stand for and he's IN CHARGE of the protest

>>723243914
Meh. The conservatives of today are the liberals of a decade ago.

>>723255073
I have mixed feelings about unions. On the one hand, there were some pretty horrible abuses before they came along. But on the other hand, unions these days seem to just be concerned with Muh Pensions (i.e. seniority is everything) and doing the absolute minimum they can get away with. That kills all rational incentives to work hard, and succeed. And with the manufacturing sector becoming more and more automated, the only unions that are growing are in the public sector, which are completely insulated from anything resembling competition or a drive to succeed (with no economic failure conditions, it's entirely political cronyism).

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>>723255242
Well they won't. They'll feel robbed and they'll continue to be a threat to democracy without intending to.

Atleast you can give them that. They don't intend to actually be the death of democracy, unlike their SJW counterparts.

But yes i ultimately agree, Trump has left no other choice.

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>>723255368
TUCKED
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K
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Both sides are fucking Cucks. 5 years ago there was no problem. Liberals think there making a difference but aren't. The "conservative" people are getting ass hurt when something goes in the liberals favor.

>>723244385
> implying any of that shit isn't just pure autistic shitposting.

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>>723255609
> implying there is anything other than pure autistic shitposting

>>723248420
Man you completely swallowed that bate.

>>723250946
oh man this generalized cartoon that cuts a wide swathe without any content but self-affirming answers will sure teach those repubs

>>723255369
Not really.

People who were liberals decades ago are still liberals today, it's just what that means has changed. Liberals used to support the tenets of Western liberal democracy, including the rights of the individual, free speech, and equality under the law.

It's just for some reason those same people (with a few exceptions like Maher, who are generally treated as pariahs) have completely turned their back on those principles in favor of identity politics, special rights for certain selected groups, and suppression of any contrary speech.

It's true that the group most closely aligned with the original principles of "classic" liberalism are now considered conservatives, but they're a different group of people.

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>>723244002
>Projecting your own fetishes onto others is Triggering them now
Its not us who save pics like yours to our local storage

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>>723250149
The poor should be allowed to starve and die. It's economic evolution. We have no other form of evolution working right now other than chicks choosing the biggest asshole because that's what they are pre-programmed to do.

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>>723255825
seriously man take a look at yourself

five posts deep on a porn image because why?

you have no discipline

shamefur dispray

>>723255368
brutal, epitome of a left wing snowflake, thick as pig shit lol

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>>723255368
>We're uhh...marching...because uh....there's other marches...and....stuff...or .....things.

>that liberal logic

kek

>>723255825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBfNaovmhHA

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>>723255435
Tough luck for them.

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>>723248371
>Capitalism has so far been the only system with sustainable welfare for the poor without it ending in mass death of the non elite populace of historically fully socialist societies
>People still claim Capitalism does nothing for the poor

As a personen who lives in a western European welfare state, social security is only affordable within a Capitalist society

Socialism would Just run out of money leading to mass starvation time and time again

If you are An american, youve never had to deal with socialism before so you wouldnt know its horrors

>>723253356
You are so stupid. Stop breathing you're wasting air

>>723243914
>enemy of a website
I don't understand retard.

>>723255368
>tfw you'll never have a "as a XXXX person" as a pocket argument

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>>723256360

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>>723256243
Amen, brother.

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>>723243914
Come at me!

>>723256662
False quote. Teddy Roosevelt never said that.

>>723257187
False post. Anon never posted that

>>723257284
You anon, me anon, or they anon?

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>>723243914
I would beg to differ. The only thing 4chan stands for as a whole is freedom of speech. How each anon chooses to use that varies.

>>723257327
I don't discriminate

>>723257335
But Moot and Zoe Quim!

>>723257506
We do.

Clearly, McDonald's has better fries that BK.

>>723244144
Free speech means wasting time explaining everything to Idiots who will just ask more questions.
Revoke free speech for a better tomorrow.

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>>723257718
Okay, In-n-Out-n-In-n-Out might top them both

>>723257335
And liberals no longer believe in free open dialogue.

>>723257900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_0WYrXPdj4

>>723257977
Neither does Trump.

So the two principal factions yelling about politics all the time on 4chan both hate the fundamental principle behind 4chan.

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>>723250346
Im pretty sure thats the bassist for my chemical romance.

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>>723258364
You're factually wrong. You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it. It's like the left thinks they can sling all the shit they want and not get called on it. Go make up more buzzwords like "nazis" and "fascists" because you can't handle opposing opinions.

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>>723258364
>Trump is out pepper-spraying and assaulting people with opposing views for literally saying words

Sure kid.

>>723258544
I just said that liberals no longer believe in free speech, and you somehow decided that makes me a leftist?

Wow. For you, backwards must be forwards, and up must be down.

>>723244272
what are your views on freedom of speech,
specifically as it relates to hate speech.

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>>723258816
No, you tried to equate Trump calling out some reporters to the literal assaults and riots that the left are using to actually shut down free speech. It's a false equivalency. A fallacy. Literally untrue.

>>723258544
Honestly you people are the worst. It's that whole "REBEL MEDIA" OH BOY SO EDGY. Bullshit.

I for example hate trump I think he's the greatest danger to free speech we've had for quite a while. I'm a Jeffersonian. I hated the Clinton for the better half of my life. And doing the last year i've been declared a leftist in more or less every single fucking argument with you drooling fucking retards.

You're not edgy, you're not smart. You're just pathetic and unable to hear someone challenging your almighty pappy trump. It's the most unamerican and the least patriotic thing i've ever fucking seen in my life.

Atleast the shitty ass fucking sjw's don't pretend to like America when they rape her corpse.

>>723254921

you are severely underestimating Trump's support

everyone knows hillary was double-digit ahead in all the swing states and her win was inevitable

everyone knows that nobody supported trump before the election and nobody supports him after it

>>723255435

rofl the ppl supporting the rightfully elected president are a threat to democracy

throwing a democratically elected president out of office isn't a threat to democracy

>>723259084
You might want to learn how to use catchy buzzword fallacies like "false equivalency" properly. You won't sound as silly.

I was actually referring to Trump's long history of suing reporters, harassing Forbes (because they didn't believe his lies about rich he was), and strong advocacy for suppressing free speech by tilting slander and libel laws so reporters would basically be prohibited from saying anything negative about him. Since that would apply to any other public figure, that's tatamount to outlawing any criticism of the government.

And to get back to your false fallacy, I never equated the two sides. I wasn't comparing the two, or saying they were the same. I was only pointing out that neither side has displayed any interest in protecting free speech. And that's why both sides are enemies of the founding principles behind 4chan, and why there's also a clear and present danger to open dialog around the world. Free speech has almost no defenders.

>>723259797
The national polls turned out to be more or less dead right with the actual number of support for each side.

The polls now on average show trump at a 5.4 disapproval rating. RCP average which turned out to be damn close to being correct at the election.

And no. She was not double-digit's ahead in the swing states, you simply made that up.

You're factually and demonstrably wrong.

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>>723259126
> It's that whole "REBEL MEDIA" OH BOY SO EDGY. Bullshit.

What the fuck....are you even talking about at this point?

People are pissed off at the media because they're literally fabricating stories (pic related). How stupid and gullible are you exactly?

>You're not edgy, you're not smart.

No one's trying to be edgy, you're just being a willful idiot. I never claimed to be "smart" but I'm smarter than any head-in-the-sand liberal.

Now that you've seen a prime example of the media lying, let's see substantial evidence from you to support your claim:

>he's the greatest danger to free speech we've had for quite a while

What do you even base that on? You idiots don't know why you believe what you believe, you just regurgitate bullshit you hear from your echo chamber. You're literal tools and it's sad as fuck. Like a normal person would see that they're wrong and change their point of view to be correct, but you dumbfucks just double down and try to defend being wrong somehow? It makes no fucking sense at all.

>>723259891
You live in a Republic.
Because of this you have Trump as President in the first place, electoral college and such.

I do not dispute that but you can't just go discard the constitution when it doesn't work out for you. The 25th amendment entitles Mike Pence to take over from Trump, If trump disputes it, it will be taken to the house and you'll see a representative republic at work.

You did not complain when Trump was elected President losing the popular vote. Don't complain now you fucking hypocrite.

>>723260143
1: The Media lies. Yes. I don't get why you think i dispute that.

2: Rebel Media is the cringiest fucking beta ass shit i've ever seen. Talk about fabricating news.

3: The man sues people like Bill Maher over a joke. There is nobody more intolerant of descending views than trump. Why do you think he talked about changing labial laws in the past? It cause he can't win the fucking cases he wants to. He's a manchild who can't take ANY form of critique.

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>>723260449
>The media lies, I don't get why you think I dispute that

Maybe because you just attacked anyone who questions their credibility by trying to all them "edgy rebel try-hards", you fucking clown?

>Rebel Media is the cringiest fucking beta shit

Only we weren't talking about "rebel media." We were talking about MSM, as they're the only ones that Trump has specifically called out at this point. I don't disagree with you on that, but you can't honestly say anywhere near the same number of people watch "rebel media" (however the fuck you even classify that) as they do MSM. It doesn't hold up to the numbers at all.

>The man sues people like Bill Maher over a joke

The double standards from the left are retarded as fuck and the example you just used is a prime example.

>labial laws

Ok, at this point you've got to be trolling. Or just a flat out idiot.