Tell me /b/ why haven't you signed up to be a organ

Because a.) my organs are shit as it is. and b.) it's not my fault so many people were born with shitty organs. They can't have mine tho.

>>722995270
What will you be using them for? 1 body can save 8 people

>>722995064
I don't trust medical practitioners to wait until I am properly brain-dead before harvesting my sweet, sweet organs. I have heard/read too many tales of over zealous emergency staff and people waking up screaming or showing signs of absolute horror in their last moments. When it comes to donor organs, time it of the essence, I just don't want anyone to get greedy before I'm done with my bits. Science can have my body though...

>>722995377
but people suck

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>>722995064
did you never watch Sliders?
I don't want to be snatched off the streets because some rich guy need a new liver.

>>722995064
I have. But only for other members of the Church of the Subgenius. If one of them heathens wants my guts, they'll have to pay.

Because I'm currently using them.

>>722996134
So you're saying if a 34 year old black guy got shot in the lung and needed a new one you wouldn't want him to live?

>>722996145
But if you're already dead what will you be using them for? Filler?

>>722996050
But if a 9 year old girl needed a new heart to help her live so she can live on to become a cancer researcher you wouldn't sign up?

>>722995064
I'm leaving my body to science. I would much rather have my corpse used to advance the training and research of future medical students than be divvied up to the highest bidder.
If you're on the transplant list, nature has already failed you and decided you should be dead and there are too many humans on this planet right now anyway. My body will get far more use being thrown around by med students than stuck in the decaying shells of others.

>>722996614
What if one of those decaying shells finds out the key to immortality or the way to colonize another planet?

i dunno, im not sure if they always do an autopsy on people when they die, but the idea of being cut open and gutted, even when im dead and dont need it, seems weird to me

>>722996399
I don't trust the gov't nor medical community to not kill me in order to give it to someone they deem more worthy of my organs than myself.
why register and make it easy for them.

this isn't 1930's Germany yet.

>>722996505
No, I wouldn't. She wasn't strong enough to survive on her own and obviously normal medical intervention hasn't worked. Why would I want her to pass on her weak genetics? If her organs are failing there is something else wrong with her and we can either work on a diagnosis and cure, or try to make sure her throwback is not passed on.

>>722995064
I donated my organ to you mother last night. shit was so cashhh

>Die
>Come back to life on the operating table as they're about to cut out your organs
>You try to get up but they hold you down and kill you then take your organs

>>722996765
You're barking up the wrong tree here. I don't want humanity to spread. Everybody deserves to have a rewarding life, but failing that, they should be permitted a swift and painless death instead. The longer-lived and more densely populated we are, the more we showcase the worst of humanity. Try world peace instead, might make a more compelling argument.

>>722995064
Because I'm neglecting the fuck out of my body. No body should want this shit.

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waiting on a heart but im still an organ donor

>>722996050
They won't wait. I changed my view on donating organs after I saw what they did to my dying grandmother.

because when i die i want to be eaten by crows not used by some faggot who drank too much and broke his liver

>>722996339
It's shit luck but everybody has to go sometime. Race doesn't matter to me, nor does gender or age. His time has come.

>>722997683
Wat they do?

>>722997452
Why do you need a new heart?

>>722995377
What if one of those people is like Hitler 2.0?

>>722997967
Because the current one has a problem with it, dumbass. How oblivious can you be?

>>722996871
Being this paranoid

>>722997683
Do tell, Anon. Every first-hand tale makes a difference. I'm sorry for your loss.

Because hospitals would rather harvest your organs than save you if you had a 50% chance to live.
Because I'd rather have my organs sold to the black market and give the money to my family than to give it to someone I don't care for

>>722995064
Because china has plenty of cheep organs to go around.

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>>722996050
>I have heard/read too many tales of...
no you haven't
>>722996145

>>722998094
Why does it have a problem? Is it genetic? Did you drink too much? Eat too much?

>>722997877
are you dumb? "his time" according to who? You?

>>722998391
Yeah OK so what mechanism have you got in place for this black market sale?

>>722996978
So it's not the tech doesn't exist or work, it's that you don't think she "deserves" life. Who the fuck are you to judge life like that?

I have. except my eyes. that shit's too personal imo

>>722995064
I have.

>>722998451
I have. The only question is why you're fighting so hard to get more donors.
Are you on the list yourself and getting desperate, or Tiny Tim's favourite uncle? Maybe campaigning for other people to donate just makes you feel like a great humanitarian and somehow worthwhile. Get a medical degree and make a physical difference instead of relying on others to make your cause worthwhile. You seem to think everyone who isn't a donor is being selfish, but are your own reasons really so pure?

>>722995064
Because mine are all fucked up

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>>722997967
Cardio Myopathy. A virus attacked my heart around 4 years ago..only 24 now :P

>>722995064
Because I've got cirrhosis, I've had a partial pneumothorax, and I've only got one kidney.
and the worst part is I'm 24.

>>722998659
Who the fuck are you to judge if someone should give up their organs?
Neck yourself you worthless fucking faggot. I hope you die in a car crash then cone back to life while your lungs are being removed, you faggot.

>>722998984
Shit, I'd lend you mine. I'm just kinda spending time not dying. Not really using it or taking good care of it.
Good luck with getting a donor, anon. You probably deserve a heart more than I do.

>>722998540
Nature, timing, luck, whatever deity rubs you the right way. I don't care- it happened and he cannot survive. Every death is horribly tragic and completely unexpected. People will cry and families will mourn but still, EVERYBODY DIES. Sorry you had to hear it this way. If you cry for every loss in the world you won't have time to live your own life. Grow up and learn to cope.

Chix not impressed by my organ donor offers

>>722998659
I bet you believe abortions are wrong, too.

>>722996505
Why do all these pro life people always try and make it seem like the kid is 100 percent guranteed to like cure some crazy disease and you robbed the world of that chance, like everytime i bust a nut should i get all fucking sad and go "shit looks like cancer wins another round"

>>722998342
being so naïve.

>>722995064
My body parts will be ritually eaten by my family and friends.

>>722998899
People can save lives by just checking a box. No effort required to donate and it could be the difference between someone living to see their kids grow up or leaving them dead.

Hording things that people need but you don't need is selfish. Preventing someone from living by hording your organs is inhumane. There's no morality in doing nothing and letting people die. There is only 2 deaths when there could have been only 1. If someone could have used your organs to live and they die because you chose not to give it to them, their death is your fault.

Just like if you come across an injured person and don't help them. You may not have hurt them yourself but you are directly responsible for them not receiving aid because you did nothing. Not choosing is still a choice, and it carries consequences.

>>722999777
Good man. This way they get to gain your courage -and- your memories!

They ask if I'm a robot when I offer

>>722999120
Why would you assume that organ transplants are conspiracies to kill healthy people to save sick people? That makes no sense.

>>722999120
Because when you don't give them up people die, and there's no good reason to not give them up.

>>722999912
and aids, don't forget the aids.

>>722999257
But he can survive, with organs from your dead body. In this hypothetical, his death is completely preventable while yours is not. You damning him to die us what makes you an asshole.

>>722999823
I have already stated my willingness to donate my body- to science. I am not "hoarding" my organs and they will not go to waste. If each organ helps five trainee surgeons/doctors to learn their trade well with hands-on experience, how many countless lives are saved through their future efforts? So many deaths happen on the operating table but with proper training, those odds of fatality are severely reduced. Who knows, I might be saving the life of one of your future transplant patients by being the guinea pig for his schooling. I have made my choice, and I am confident in its validity.

>>723000084
t. Surgeon
They do it for the money.

>>722999257
Why is it that you think you're breaking the news that people die? Of course they die. Organ transplant technology was designed to prevent death, and that's what it does. To not use the technology and allow people to die is wasteful at best and inhumane at worst. Either way it's a stupid choice. "Yeah I could save their life, but meh..."

>>722999823
Give me all of your money,i have student loans and mortgages to pay. Your money will pay for my education flat out.I will go to graduate school and make patents for life saving devices

>their death is your fault.
Dosent work that way retard.Their death is solely theirs and theirs alone

People die,get over it

>>722999508
So how often does that happen? What percentage of organ transplants are conspiracies to kill the healthy to save the sick? Back it up or else you're just paranoid, afraid of something with no basis in reality

>>722999464
Why?

>>723000150
You know, 8 people died today because you're still alive. Strong case for suicide right there, think of all the lives you're saving!

>>722999485
hahaha right?!

>>723000761
Agreed.

>>722995064
because you go in for a simple operation and the next thing you know you're being picked apart for your organs and your family being told that there was 'complications' in surgery.

>>723000513
Yeah man that's awesome! You're not at all hoarding it because of exactly what you said. I agree good training is just as important.

>>723000652
>prolonging the inevitable
Why

Doc will kill me for my organs

>>722995064
I suffer from too many disorders to be a donor.

>>722998004
I just went and got my license renewed and signed up and this has me questioning that decision

>>723000637
So there's a payment system where surgeons are paid more for taking organs from a healthy person and using them for transplants?

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>>722998899
>why you're fighting so hard
lol one post, 3 words.
>favourite
european faggot
>Are you on the list yourself
my body will be donated to the nearest university for whatever the fuck they want to do with it. Graveyards are a waste of valuable real estate and you sound like you're already a brain dead trumpeteer.
>everyone who isn't a donor is being selfish
that would define it, yes.

>>722998004
2.0? How can you update perfection?

>>722995064
Because as a double cancer survivor chemotherapy has kicked the shit out of my organs so badly they'd be of no use

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>>723001585
>I have
and damnit Dale, no you haven't.

>>723000652
You seem to think that death can/should be prevented, perhaps indefinitely. That just seems like denial to me. It's not inhumane to allow somebody to die. In most cases, it's mercy. Every late-stage cancer patient I've met just wants a quick end. Between the pain of the disease and the pain of the treatments, a gentle end is all they wish for. In humane is keeping someone in life-support beyond their wish to be alive. I don't fight for life, I fight for -quality- of life.

>>723000761
>>723000761
>>>722999823 (You)
>Give me all of your money,i have student loans and mortgages to pay. Your money will pay for my education flat out.I will go to graduate school and make patents for life saving devices

You are capable of doing that yourself if you cared enough about others and had a passion for preventing harm, but you dont, so it's kind of pointless to suggest that, isn't it?

>>their death is your fault.
>Dosent work that way retard.Their death is solely theirs and theirs alone
>People die,get over it

And what part of what I said is innaccurate? Why are you so accepting of preventable death? If it was mother who needed an organ? Your wfie? Your son? You obviously don't have a caring family because you're so a callous that no one could love you, but pretend for a minute.

Do you prohibit the use of all medication? By your logic trying to do anything to survive is going against fate. People want to live. Get over it.

>>723000940
No the organ transplant system doesn't encourage death, it takes one persons misfortune and saves a life with it. People die all the time, unfortunately, we don't need any help dying. Which is why organ transplants exist in the first place. To prevent death.

>>723001359
How often does this happen?

>>722996871
You shouldn't. In TX, if the wounds are equal and can only treat 1 and it's between you and an organ donor, they treat the organ donor 2nd.

>>722998342
See this>>723002575

>>723002447
Problem is, you'll likely die alone and not be found for several days, making your putrid organs useless for transplant. If you off yourself now and somehow give authorities fair warning, you will guarantee you will be split up and doled out tho those needy patients.

>>723001463
Most people want to keep living. If you need it explained to you why people want to see the next sunrise, then you must be missing a reason to live, which is sad.

Just because death is inevitable in the end doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it every way we can.

Do not go quietly into the night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

>>723002793
>being afraid of something you cant control
you sound like a retard

>>723001985
Yes death can and should be prevented. Who wants to die? If you do want to die, why aren't you dead? Death IS inevitable, but it should be prevented as long as someone wants it to be prevented, if the resources and technology are there for them, like with organ transplants. The inevitability of death and yearning for life are not mutually exclusive.

Regarding the right-to-die, you're not "allowing" people who need transplants to die. You're ensuring they die. People who ask for death because they have a low quality of life are completely entitled to, they control their own lives. People on transplant lists have not chosen to die, they are trying to not die.

The two scenarios are almost opposites.

>>723002731
Right. There are circumstances where organs are not usuable. How does that mean that no organs should ever be used?

>>723002575
That's crazy, how often does that happen per year? No matter what that sounds messed up and should be changed (cuz fortunately laws can be changed). Does it happen enough to decide that no organs should ever be used to save a life?

Also that makes it sound like if they were both organ donors then they would get equal treatment, so the easiest way to prevent that from happening to them would be for everyone to be a donor.

>>722995064
I plan to actually

>>723003040
What part of what I said sounds like fear? I am not afraid of death, but that doesn't mean I want it to happen.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/why-you-should-not-become-an-organ-donor/

>>723004509

>hangthebankers.com

Certainly a very credible, data-based journalistic organization. Try again.

Have you read that article? There are NO credible sources. There isn't even any data or statistics to back up their claims. They cite a story from ABC but that's not exactly evidence of an organ harvesting conspiracy.

>>723004215
Good for you! You could save a life when you die.

>>722995064
because it mine and why should i help someone who have never cared or help me when i was alive?

>>723005952
Why not? Why do you have to get something in return before you can help someone?