Aerospace thread. I'm an aerospace engineer. AMA. Will

How often do you play Kerbal Space Program?

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>>722909150

bumpin, yo.

>>722909299

i've actually never played it. I have a screen shot of it though as one of my desktop wallpapers

>>722909299
I need to know this

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>>722909425
see
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>>722909150

Is anti-gravity real?

>>722910372

Naw, at least not with present technology. Interestingly though, a while back the air force commissioned a study on it. Crazy shit.

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>>722909150
here's another plane

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>>722912438

found my aunt yet at area 51?/

tell us on progress on the alcubierre FTL drive

>>722913207

Lol, sorry anon no luck. I've worked with a few guys who've been to Area 51 though.

Hypothetical? I did see that NASA's been doing some work on propulsion using only EM fields though...

>>722909150
bump

>>722909150
Are there any jobs in Aerospace? I want to major in it but i am not sure if it'll come to fruition. Do you like it? Is it difficult? challenging? pay and benefits? Whats your daily life like?

PIlot here. not as good as you think.

What would it take to send my sides into orbit?

>>722909150
I'm currently a freshman in college with a major in mechanical engineering, looking to land a position in the aerospace field. What steps would you recommend I take.

>>722914319
Yeah, the industry is cyclic though, so sometimes it's pretty flush and other times it can be hard to find a job. if you get in it's not too hard to stay in though. I love it personally, it's challenging and i see some really cool things. It can be difficult in different ways, depending on the job you do. The pay and benefits i'd say are above average, more so if you get a security clearance. daily life...varies. meetings, emails, analysis. i travel about once a quarter.

>>722914727
get an internship with an aerospace/defense company if you can. bigger than that though is just be willing to move. it can be tough finding work in your ideal spot, but if you're willing to go where the work is you're much more likely to land something

I invented rockets. The only problem with colonising Mars is lack of Merntos.

>>722914803
I see, thank you for your answer. I am just torn between either Mechanical engineering or Aerospace. I've ALWAYS loved airplanes as a kid and now I love cars so i am seriously 50/50

>>722914989
Go mechanical. if you get a ME degree, you can always go into aerospace or something else. if you get a degree in AE, it's harder to do something outside of aerospace

I never post on 4chan so excuse the noob.

Can you extrapolate on why NASA got rid of the shuttle program before having something to replace it either immediately or shortly after ?

>>722913437
Is that the em drive they have been talking about online last year? What kind of timeline are they looking at to a working model?

Also, back ten years ago ion drives were entering limited service with satellites. Has that technology continued to evolve our been dropped at this point? It seemed like it had great potential for long distance space travel economy.

OP, what's the main resource-limiting factor in aerospace technology right now?

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>>722915394
Magnets.

>>722909150
What kind of aerospace do you work?
I see a bunch of airplane shit.

>>722915194
Cost I think was a big driver. it was expensive to maintain them and each launch was pricey. ultimately it was cheaper to go a different route. that's mostly speculation on my part though..

>>722915296
i think it's probably the same one, or at least something similar. as for building a working model i guess it depends what you mean. i'd read they'd 'proven' it in the lab so in that sense they have a working model, but if you mean something commercially viable, you're probably looking at least a decade out. As for ion drives, they use them all the time on satellites. they've gotten a lot better, but the total thrust is low so they're mostly just used for station-keeping.

>>722915185
Oh so ME would be a good "general" sort of major and then I can then get into other fields?

>>722915394

Money, i'd say. aerospace work is expensive - the materials are pricey, labor costs are high, and the industry is heavily regulated

>>722915658
Is it still all obscure Ti alloys, or cabon fibre, some of A, some of B... ? I've heard hellish things about trying to machine and/or repairing Ti.

>>722909150
Looking to major in Aerospace Engineering, specifically things that go into space. Hope to eventually land a job at SpaceX. Any advice for landing future jobs? Do you do any space related work? Are space related jobs out there?

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>>722915445
OK, here's some space for you then. i used to work on aircraft, then i did ground-based systems, now i work on spacecraft.

>>722915595
yeah exactly

>>722914899
Thanks. What firms would you recommend?

>be willing to move
I live in the same county as the C-130 factory, but with a lot of aerospace firms leaving the area, I'm probably going to end up in Texas.

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Do niggers nig over there?

>>722915194
Actual Space systems engineer here.

There were a few studies which were supposed to lead to a second generation RLV to take the place of the shuttle. But too little, too late. the commercial manned vehicles were supposed to be viable sooner and the shuttle was around longer than it should have been.

TL/DR - bad planning, stupid ideas.

>>722915767
Ah, that's good. I think I'll go ME and then once I am comfy in the field, I'll most likely want to go into Aerospace. any more advice? thanks.

>>722915747
lol yeah, a lot of composites too which require fancy manufacturing. machining titanium can be done but it requires the right tools, the right shop, and yeah it's pricey since it's so tough. carbon fiber will eat through machining bits too though, so it can be a bitch.

>>722915755
yeah, see:
>>722914899
yes, i currently work on space systems. the jobs are there. if you want to work at spacex be prepared to work 70 hour weeks regularly.

>>722915767
You worked at Bigelow?
That's practically not aerospace! The owner is a loon and he only hires people who know shit about spacecraft!

My guess it that you have already left or been fired.

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>>722915806
depends on the culture you want. big companies = big company culture. you could try a startup if you like the pressure. Nice, i've been to that factory, it's impressive to see. there's still a lot of aerospace down south, if you want to stay more local than going to Texas.

>>722916111
No, it's just a picture i found on the internet. i work someplace totally different.

>>722916367
So now I'm guessing you work on satellites, since you are forcing us to guess.

>>722909150
Where'd you go to school? Gonna be going to Georgia Tech in the fall for AE as well

Civil Engineering major from Marshall in WV here. You guys stick to your confound spacey stuff. I'll just be over here playing with rocks, steel beams, and pipes.

I saw the launch was scrubbed earlier today over a stage 2 software malfunction. Will spaceX ever get it together? It is private company IRS ruining the program? Sorry for the loaded question. I know privatization has its percs but shit, NASA was better when it was funded like it was in the glory days

>>722916461
lol, no i'm not forcing you to do anything. i'm not going to say where i work, or really anything personal (including my alma mater, sorry >>722916468
). i've never worked directly on building satellites though. as for school, i double majored, both in engineering.

>>722916640
Are*

And why the fuck IRS? Jeez fuck my mobile

>>722916665
Aw :(

>>722916640

ehh, yes and no. i like that NASA has the freedom and budget to do risky, exploratory R&D, but ultimately i don't think they'll be the ones to bring space travel to 'the common man.' it'll end up being private ventures because they believe they can make money doing it

>>722916900
I get the impression that NASA can do lots of pie-in-the-sky R&D - but when it comes to specific concrete missions, they're super highly constrained by Congress. (See e.g. the Space Shuttle.)

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>>722916900
You're a fucking fraud dude. This is now a spiderman thread

>>722917077
i can't say i'm an expert on their inner workings, but as i understand it they different directorates get proportional amounts of the overall budget, which they get to pick how they spend it. the big programs take up huge chunks of their development budget (like the SLS), and then the individual missions are additional costs on top of that. so to design, develop, and build a new launch system costs like 2billion, then each mission after is an extra cost

>>722917165
lol, ok? not sure what i said that makes you think i'm fraud, but ok dude.

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>>722916640
>>722917499
What was your thoughts on the scrub? Answer the question. And if yes and no was your answer you're paid by one of them or it's bait. If you really work the field you know what's going on is shit and you have to have an opinion

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>>722909150
Fuck you for living out my dead dreams
:(

>>722917928
Originally i'd heard there was a leak in an upper stage valve, but after they got that fixed there was a problem with an upper stage engine nozzle trace. i guess i'm kind of confused by what you mean when you say what's going on is shit. despite whatever flaws they have, spacex has brought down the cost of a launch significantly. it used to cost hundreds of millions to put a payload into orbit, now US launch providers are talking about 100m dollar launches, so i think the competition has done a lot of good. compare that to the cost of the SLS, which is running into the multiple billions of dollars. i'm not saying that NASA is obsolete or that the future of spaceflight is exclusively privatized, but i think it will be a big component of the total market going forward.

>>722918173
Same brother, let this thread die

>>722918173
why are they dead? i'm not an astronaut or anything, just an engineer

>>722909150
How well would aerospace engineering work with Astrophysics? I've been looking a for a minor to go with an Astrophysics major, and my friend is taking aerospace engineering at UB

>>722918670
unless you end up doing specific mission or trajectory analysis work, i think astrophysics wouldn't help too much. the people i know with astrophysics degrees work either in a university or at a government lab.

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>>722918324
And the subsidies? Gtfo dude, we still have to launch astronauts from Kazakhstan. It's detrimental to our image and we are no longer leaders. All our physics degrees go abroad and are from abroad. The fact that the cost is down is just propaganda. You know it

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>>722918363
ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES
>>722918384
Astronaut is my unrealistic childhood dream
I wanted to become an aerospace engineer after I got denied by the military, was going to be a pilot.
Figured the next best thing was engineering that way I'll at least be able to work with the them.
Now they're dead and everything's dead and I'm going to be a stupid paramedic fuck this stupid life I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS SHIT

>>722918866
I figured I'd do it as a minor for a fall back Incase I couldn't get a job for a whole, cause the astronomer and Astrophysics market is small af. So do you work for a private corporation ?

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>>722918882
show me an aerospace or defense field that isn't subsidized by the government. you're right, but the point is to get human launch back to the US. look at the dragon capsule, or the CST-100, hell Robert Lightfoot just asked what it would take to make SLS EM-1 human rated, bumping up the schedule significantly. even the engines are now going to be US vs russian. we're trying to bring it back here. and the costs are down, if you don't believe that ask the commercial satcom companies - they wouldn't continue paying so much for launches if the costs weren't down. and none of that is government money.

>>722918954
aw fuck, sorry dude. are you still working to be a pilot? what happened with the engineering thing?

>>722919055
ah ok i got it, my bad. yeah, i work for a private aerospace firm

I manufacture calendered material for various airplane parts!! Maybe I have had a hand making something you have designed (I am assuming we work for the same company)

We run a lot of fiberglass inserts with red thermoplastic silicone rubber in thin passes (.002-.005 of an inch) on each side and we have a huge problem with the material peeling off and not sticking. We used to use PTFE (teflon) but it was shrinking material over our 10% so Boeing noped that.. Do you have any suggestions to prevent or improve this??

Hey guy!

I'm looking for a chemical propellant to use with ceaseless ammunition.

It has to be able to perform as well as smokeless powder but it must burn cool as possible, be only ignitable by electricity or very high temp, and only a few milligrams of it to propellant a standard .223 projectile to over 2000 FPS.

As for the volume I'm talking, imagine a pen cap. You use the pocket clip to scoop up sand using only the last quarter inch.

That's around the propellant limit.

Very miniscule amounts.

I figure rocket propellant these days might work, fringe propellant that's electrically ignited has been developed so the burn time can be shut on and off etc

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>>722919316
No, I'm not
I'm not allowed, I'm going to have to take private lessons later on in life if I don't fucking kill myself
Engineering was a failure because as much as I like science and as good as I am, math is the bane of my existence and my skills are laughable.
I'm going to shower op
Enjoy your thread

>>722918324
>>722917928
Look, I'm not trying to be mean, but you can't defend our aeronautics program with that engineering degree. It's much deeper and you know we could do better. We deserve better. We are by essence explorers: breaching the new with the ideas of more. Get it together, spaceX has failed. This experiment is shit. Things need to go back to why it was to even come snider the program respectable

>>722919371
Well I mean if I have a minor I'd like it to corolate with an Astrophysics major, but I didn't know any engineering fields that coincided with a major like that

>>722919545

>spacex has failed

That's bad news, I heard that they were better than NASA.

>>722919703
Must of heard some alternative facts. Sorry for your ignorance

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>>722909150
When do you personally see humans going to another planet?

>>722909150
Im actually into an ITs degree, is there a possibility to get into the aerospace industry? should i make some kind of complement studies in a more specific field of ITs?

>>722919703
No. Just really ambitious and with a good budget.

>>722919851

Not OP but it'll probably be cheaper and easier for us to turn deserts into farmland so the need to go to space is not as crucial as people think.

>>722919466
Cool man, do you like the work? do you mean you make like a prepreg, or material with a backing and the backing is coming off?

>>722919539
do you mean caseless ammunition? possibly..i don't know a lot about the solid propellant. Maybe try a zinc-sulfur or high-energy composite?

>>722919540
sorry bro. i hope things look up for you.

>>722919545
yeah, i agree we could do better. but who would you say is doing better than us? the russians? the europeans? who has a more advanced or technically capable aerospace industry you want us to emulate? maybe spacex has failed, but that doesn't mean we should give up on privatized spaceflight entirely. what was so good about the past you want to duplicate?

>>722920040
Yeah, but different planets man. The world appears to be crumpling and with our new cabinet and I don't see anything doing better, so if our planet heats up too much there won't be any growth.

>>722909150

So when can we expect a working Alcubierre drive, and how do we overcome the whole radiation cooking everything to a crisp inside the bubble thing?

>>722919851
i think the 'proposed' date is around 2023. i'm not sure if we'll hit that, but i could see it being in the 2020's.

>>722920012
IT isn't my field, but i'd say yeah absolutely. every big company has an IT side, and there's not that much aerospace involved with it. so just be really good at IT, then apply for an IT job w/ an aerospace company.

>>722909150
>Arse thread.
>I'm an arse-ineer. AMA.
>Will pump it open fully.
>Giant fingers thread as well.

>>722920235
Sweet good to hear.
Also, what's your stance on Global Warming?

Im an AE student currently, where do you work?

>>722920366
It sucks, i like cold weather lol. the thing i don't get about a lot of people arguing it isn't man-made...is even if it wasn't, why would you argue against limiting pollution? i mean it's still a bad thing, so even if it's not warming the planet why don't we try and stop it? above my pay-grade, i guess.

>>722920457
see:
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>>722909150
I've heard that i should major in mechanical engineering instead of aero because mechanical engineering is more broad and marketable. I've also been told a mechanical engineer can still get a job that a aerospace engineer can do. What are your thoughts and what do you think i should major in? I mostly want to work in the space industry.

>>722920066
Yeah it pays pretty good. You know the aerospace hours lol we always have OT on our checks.

Nah prepreg is easy to run. I'm talking about ceramic-style like Nextels and 3M's. Some of them are easier then others but the one I hate running the most is a .021 (-.003+.002 tolerance) insert and the fiberglass is already .016 so that leaves little room for error.. The rubber peels off the fabric while being ran and we have problems getting it to stick on the material. Our engineer has done as much as he can to help us but atm we cross our fingers and hope we don't have a lot of scrap.

>>722909150
What do you think about alien life? Do you think that we have already made contact with them secretly?

>>722920066

Yea, its a caseless ammunition.

Its for something I've wanted to build for decades.

Minigun rifles around the 20lb range that have a thousand round magazine.

>>722920625
I knew it! I am an architect ( I specialize in technology for eco buildings) and recently we did a project about a GW safe buildings. If our work works out we could decrease the total amounts of Carbon Dioxide used by 30% but, that would mean that at least 34% of all buildings are using technologies and design like the ones we made. I hate global warming and being a skier makes me hate it soo much more.

>>722920195

If co2 and co1 are so severe they'll find a way to use them as a fuel source or consumable material.

I've been wanting to find a way to use regular atmospheric gasses as the primary fuel source in motors with a highly reactive substance as a catalyst...

Imagine a 30 gallon tank lasting 10,000 miles because the fuel tank doesn't hold the fuel, the atmosphere does.

>>722920066
You make a good point but until private companies can do this competently (which I know NASA hasn't fiscally), we need to leave this to the "people" (democracy) and not them. In the end, NASA is tax dollars: done. SpaceX is NASA blueprints with NASA funding and our tax dollars: with their profit margins. Doesn't make sense really. You can't privatize space. At least not yet. Forgive my nostalgia, but I think we still don't know shit and we need a leader of a president or politician to just say let's go to the moon again, or fuck it, mars for all I care. Just to stabilize our program again and let private companies worry about tourist trips to lower orbit and refuel missions until we get our shit together

>>722920787

I'm not OP but billions of people believe in a book that says life originated outside of earth.

There's a lot of information in the book of Genesis

>>722920758
Same advice i would give you. see:
>>722915185


>>722920774
yeah i know the feeling man. i get to do 9/80s, but i still end up working overtime which sucks since it's all unpaid.
oh ok. if the only thing keeping the rubber to the fiberglass is static charge, i'd say maybe look at the grounding on your rollers or something? i imagine being run at high speeds they'd pick up excess charge and then statically cling to the rubber preferentially. so maybe some electrical work? if your material has a coating and the rubber's not sticking to it, maybe a look at material composition and/or temps your running. a lot of the resins i've seen in the past get tackier at higher temps, which might grip the rubber better.

>>722921125
That's what I'd call a great idea but, it isn't exactly original. It is an issue currently but, we could possible learn how to use it. Unfortunately that hasn't happened yet unfortunately.

>>722920787
i suppose it could exist. but nah, i don't think a secret like that could be kept so well for so long.

>>722921019
nice dude. i have a thing for efficiency - i like things to be as efficient and waste-free as possible. keep up the good work!

>>722921125
Technically we do use atmospheric gases as fuel for rockets, only in liquid form. two major liquid propellants are hydrogen and oxygen.

>>722921184
i think private companies are trying to get to the moon, and mars. spacex and ula are racing each other for it.

>>722921252
They grounded our machines a while back. It helped for a bit but atm their solution is to run it slower. Our tackiness comes from the bottom two rolls so if you run it too fast it'll peel. We have one job thats really static-reactive and if you touch the roll and part of the machine you WILL get shocked lol. I got a blue zap to the nuts once.

Geez, I'm done

>>722921385
>>722921657

The problem is aside from oxygen the majority of atmospheric gasses are pretty unreactive.

Its a bummer I have the occasional great idea but no way to implement it and I'm dumb as fuck

>>722921657
Yeah, right now my biggest gripe is with China. I hate coming across as racist but, their people need to fix their shit, or their government has got to do something about it. Most of the greenhouse gases are being created there. The firm I work at has been working on Chinese projects, and working towards fixing their creation of greenhouse gases. As a result I have been there a bunch and I can't stand the amount of garbage they spew. It disgusts me deeply but, I personally see improvement by at least 2035 but, it isn't going to happen with capitalist greed and the want for cheap production.

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>>722909150
NEVER LEFT LOW EARTH ORBIT. TELL THEM THE TRUTH YOU FUCK.

>>722921970
Yeah, the problem is exactly that though, they just linger. They don't have much properties other than being green house gases but, someday I see improvement of global warming but, if that can't happen we gotta set up another planet for us, like mars.

>>722921752
lol, that sucks, hopefully no permanent damage to your balls. i've never been shocked, but i did get yelled at once for holding a circuit card without my wrist strap plugged in.

>>722922081
Stupid ignorant conspiracy theorist.

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When will we meet the reptilians again?

Did not USA launch this gem in 1972? In secret.

Where is the continuum transfunctioner?

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>>722922167
lol ok check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDv4A0bW1lc

>>722921657

Is there a better way to get liquid o2 than cryogenic distillation?

I'm looking into it because I want to build a rebreather for diving one day.

>>722922099

Won't we have to pretty much restart Mars core and genetically engineer microbes that will create a breathable atmosphere without needing water or heat?

>>722909150
The only thing I know is that I live in Washington, and Boeing is getting the FUCK OUT of WA, since the dumbass union workers here are too greedy and drove the to Chicago and NC, and they are done with the bullshit in this state. Liberals ruined out Aerospace industry, and they don't even see it, talking about more strikes in years to come and demanding more money. Thus why I refuse to be part of unions. Heads so far up their asses they give themselves daily colonoscopies.

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Admit it, this was produced. And launched.

I'm scared they know I know.

>>722922292
How are you seriously taking that that way. I seriously don't get you people. How the fuck would they recreate Zero gravity without it obviously being recorded in a plane. You people, make a my brain hurt. Your stupidity is palpable.

>>722922183

I wish we'd focus more on nuclear pulse propulsion and less on fucking hall thrusters and pseudoscience like the EMDrive

>>722922446
Yeah, I think it is possible but, it would take hundreds of years and technology we haven't even dreamed up yet.

>>722909150

SLS WHEN

>>722922535
you said it. i have not had good experiences with unions

>>722922752
initial launch scheduled for next year. but probably pushed out to 2019

>>722920199

about the same time you can expect the laws of physics to no longer apply to reality.

>>722909150
Student here, in my city there are just assembly factories of diverse aerospace products, any advice on what kind of knowledge or tools I should get to know?

>>722922590

I was so disappointed to learn it wasn't.

However it'd be risky because if you play that trump card too much they'll prioritize the Orion warships destruction.

>>722922535
Wait explain I always thought the coorperations were the ones that were dicking everyone over? Sorry ME with a focus in mechanical still working on degree.

>>722915194
'cause nasa is full of shit, only Russian space exploration is real

>>722922604
easy ways to do it. Shes hanging upside down, why the fuck would she freeze her hair in one direction? you are fucking dense. I used to live next vandenberg. Its obvious they dont go out farther than 250-300 miles. Low orbit, you are dense.

>>722915583
Shuttle was 1.5 billion/launch. Cheaper to by seats on the rusting Soyuz/R7 Space Tractor.

No worry, Delta 4/Orion has already been flight tested and will be flying crews shortly.

>>722923284
So I never worked in a union, and I am just a painter, so not actual firsthand experience, but my friends dad is an electrical engineer at their main original facility, and I love down the road from it, so I saw the protestors when they went on strike. They make more money than anyone, have great benifits, and had one of the most secure jobs in the state, and they fucking demanded more, so Boeing said fuck you to the moronic liberals that work for them here in western Washington and moved their headquarters out to Chicage, and a huge amount of their manufacturing out of state, the biggest being North Carolina, where they just debuted the first Boeing plane (a specific 787, can't remember the model) built entirely outside of Washington. Used to be entirely based out of Washington. They decided strongarming Boeing and saying they'd quit if they weren't given more was the smartest move since the ones who actually make money in a union are the leadership from the dues, and they convinced their sheep union workers to demand more.

Boeing has the leverage, not the workers. Unions served a purpose when there were no government regs to protect workers, but now that there are national standards, the only use a union serves is to force members to pay union dues to the leadership, who get rich as fuck, and the leaders get in bed with politicians AND in som cases the companies the workers work for, and collude to make the workers pay as much as they can to the union reps, who then in turn pay bribes to government occicials in the form of "donations."

Lmao space fake. Try posting something thats not a CGI rendering

>>722923436
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_interplanetary_voyages

Read up, kiddo. Been a little quiet on the Russian front for a while now.

>>722913437\\
the area of science in this age that just riles my hormones,is the effect of strong gravity on space time,
when this elemental force is understood, shrinking mass in acceleration,supercold temps enclosing toroidal,spinning magnets fascinating

>>722923921
thanks shane

>>722924698
...I don't get the reference. Shane?

>>722909150
So...how long until "we" quit the Earth-orbiting circle jerking and we begin to infest the solar system?

>>722925305
As long as it takes to get an orbital elevator buit. Closest we've ever been. Need more carbon nanotubes made up, first, then some serious investors, then finally a place to put it, since no matter where you put it, it has the size to fall onto a landmass and cause insane amounts of damage.

SO basically, we are waiting for people to invest in something that will most likely not be finished in their lifetime, so they won't see a profit return.
Then govermnents, (yes multiple, snice any orbital elevator will be long enough to fall onto multiple countries in most likely all directions), will have to agree to allow the thing to be built.
THEN we need the sheer amount of resources.
THEN we need to secure it, since it will obviously be a target for terrorists.

Best guesstimate? Never. People are too stupid to get their heads out of their asses to think to the future and the benefits of future generations.

>>722925842
Why not airplane-like space liners? Why not a series of stationed tugs and transports networked throughout the solar system?

>>722926108
It's not about moving out in space, it's about how many resources it costs to break through the atmosphere.

>>722926524
Hm. Of course. Money and energy.

>>722926853
Well, it's actually a matter of logistics. To seriously start space exploration and colonization, we have to get our resources off of the planet. The amount of fuel it takes just to get 1 POUND of material through the atmosphere is insane. We would burn through our resources too quickly. Less about money, (although people are too greedy to invest in a fair and USEFUL solution that will benefit the species, rather than their own pocketbook), and more about being reasonable about how to get the ships off the planet to even begin the journey.

>>722927317
>To seriously start space exploration and colonization, we have to get our resources off of the planet. The amount of fuel it takes just to get 1 POUND of material through the atmosphere is insane.

Atlas: 260,000-lb launch vehicle to launch 3,000-lb capsule to earth orbit.

Gemini: 340,000-lb launch vehicle to launch 7,900-lb spacecraft to earth orbit.

Truth.

722915394
money to pay R & D on materials, supercold conduction, making magnets super screw the time/space continuum,by spinning real fast,unto the point they self sustain momentum,repelling gravity,negating mass,shrinking space ahead, and expanding space behind the craft. alcubierre's stuff is covered in Yt,

>>722928724
Can't tell if you're agreeing or insulting.... Damnit, 4chan, you have fucked with my head once again!

>>722910070
That is the worst-looking F-16 model I've ever seen.

What do you think of spaceX and the announced interplanetary transport system?

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>>722929038
So Just so you undetstand, my knowledge on ALL of these subjects is rather cursory, since I am pretty much just a bum who wants to be a writer someday, and toils away at a trade job for now to make money, but I dream of being a fiction-writer someday, so I study things sporradically. My level of knowledge on space elevators is limited to TEDTalks, cursory research on the internet, a few videos on things like carbon nanotubes and such, and talking to my friend who is MUCH smarter than me about pretty much anything science related. All I get is what I've said so far, that the sheer logistics alone of an orbital elevator are massive, and then once you consider the political and terrorist ramifications of it, it may never be built and we may die as a large-scale species on this planet. Perhaps a few generations ships may be launched, but even that is questionable with the way fucking human-rights groups fail to see the necessity of such things and refuse to see past their own fucking 'feel-good" agenda. People don't like taking a hard look at reality and admitting that we will have to give up some of our so-called "humanitarian" efforts in facor of survival as a species, and possible enlightenment and flourishing. As it stands, if we somehow managed to start spreading out off this planet and colonizing, our greed and anger will do more damage than any good to the galaxy/universe. We need to come together as a species and acknowledge reality, and not idealism alone, before we can advance in a good way.