Sword thread, let'sdebate and argue over which sword is

What are you, ten?

>>722448381
A KATANA CAN CUT A SPACE SHUTTLE IN HALF WITH ONE STROKE HURDURRRR

>>722448381
No.

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m'lady

So this....whole sword..culture...thing...the idea of moody teenagers going around with sabers or katanas or what have you....

This was fucking started by Highlander wasn't it?

>>722449063
What the fuck is actually wrong with liking swords?

Give me a REAL reason, not your bias "hurr durr autistic screeching" bullshit you people normally say.

>>722449063
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!!!!

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Get on my level faggots

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>>722449443
O shit son, this is the real hero we all deserve.

Falx master race!

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French national guard saber all the way.

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>>722449602
Oh hey, something to pick my nose with.

>>722449747
My dude.

>>722449756
Something which forced Romans to reinforce their shitty armor and helmets because they were getting rekt even behind tower shields

>>722449413
I'm referring less to liking swords themselves and more to the sort of would-be-badass culture depicted by >>722448794

>>722448381
Fume Knight Ultra Greatsword

>>722450209
One word. Weeaboos

>>722450313
>Frostmorne

>>722450209
well ya know, some people are actually interested in history, not everyone here is a "Nothin personnel, kid" katana carrying weeaboo edgy autist. Then again, the majority is.

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>>722448381

>>722448381
Not a weeb, I swear, but don't most weapon experts consider the katana to be the best sword ever made, all things considered?

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A hatchet is more useful

>>722448381
Point beats the edge faggot.

>>722450209
No that's just autism

>>722449413
Outdated technology that serves no purpose.
Its like placing a handsaw on your wall. Its weird and serves no purpose

>>722450473
No.They comment on the craftsmanship that go into them, but no, they don't

>>722450506
Almost got me to fall for your b8 you tricky fuck

>>722449602
Fuck off Dacian scum.

>>722448381
>not a saber

>>722450588
So you don't have any hobbies?

>>722450630
Great - so what's the answer, O Master Swordsmith?

>>722450473
its sharp, yeah, but it is really unreliable and bends easily, and striking any hard surface may create dents.

hello, my name is ralph and I am from Cincinnati. Please send me a picture of female breasts.

Thank you.

>>722450588
Recreation is a purpose. Non lethal incapacitation is a purpose.

Asking out of curiosity, maybe some swordfag is knowledgeable on this.

Is the katana actually the most superior sword or is that just made up autistic weeb shit?

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>>722450687

>>722450757
I do, I sport shoot.
Something more modern and practices a skill.
Not swinging a piece of metal around screaming about how Im a samurai saving a princess from stormtroopers or some shit

>>722448649
Dunno about that, but it can cut the balls off of a flying Fly, so that it will never breed.

>>722450967
Your b8 is unoriginal and unimaginative

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Sword? Pfft.
>Axe is life. Actually useful in more than just combat.

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>>722450913
>sword
>non lethal.
So tazers and tranqs arent a thing

>>722450823
You see, there is no such thing as "The best sword ever invented" because it all comes down to personal preference. OP is retarded, and the katana is a shit weapon.

>>722450921
Fucking weeb bet you jack off to that pic. Take your rpg shit and shove it up your ass.

>>722451062
You cant come up with youre own so you insult my own?
Pft, kid youre loose

>>722451202
>the katana is a shit weapon

lol ok. So what's your preference? What cuts up milk cartons the best in your mom's back yard, you fat fedora wearing neckbeard?

>>722450918
weeb shit

>>722451156
Swords don't necessarily kill dickhead. Just because those other things exist don't preclude sword from being a viable short range option. Batons still exist despite taser

>>722451311
>youre loose..
Kek. Top bait.

>>722450506
Historically, you're right. The Francisca, or Franzia, was used by the Franks (yes, France is named after this tribe) to destroy their enemies armed with swords. The Franzia had greater penetration, more pounds per square inch on impact, and was balanced so that it could also be thrown, spinning, and with some skill, hit head first at the target.

>>722450417
Learn how to greentext, candy-ass

>>722449747
Didn't see the White flag compartment. Where is it ?

>>722450588
The Muslim still find them useful in chopping off the hands of first time offender criminals, or chopping of the heads of Christians and Jews. True, most Muslim are still living in the 7th Century, but they do use them daily.

>>722451391
The vikings used hatchets/axes as one of their most common weapons as well.
One of the most common finds fro that age is viking made axes. Or what's left of them.

>>722451215
original falxfag here, pic wasnt posted by me. Also since people started bringing up axes and shit, might as well add that my favourite weapon overall is a bardiche.
>favourite gun is Saiga-12, for the one guy bitching about medieval stuff

>>722451348
Probably a French Saber like >>722449747
one handed and legal for open carry.

>>722451311
Your spelling and grammar just gave me full blown aids son.

>>722451202
>You see, there is no such thing as "The best sword ever invented" because it all comes down to CONTEXT
Doesn't matter how much you prefer your nodachi, that thing is fucking neutered if you're fighting the amazon.

>>722450268
is that a seal clubbing instrument

>>722450473

Are you talking about the shape or the construction? The katana persisted in Japanese culture for nearly a millenia. During that time european metallurgy progressed to the point where a european sword could easily damage or destroy a katana while Japanese culture refused to adapt, choosing instead to cling to tradition.

You can see this during the dutch invasion, where their thin parrying daggers could easily parry the blow of the much heavier and thicker katanas.

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>>722451612
>legal for open carry.

That would be one of your requirements, wouldn't it? I can see you in your legionnaires outfit at your local Starbucks.

>>722451377
Sure, name one modern group who uses swords in some sort of non lethal takedown scenario
>protip:you cant

gh

>>722451425
Rood

>>722450918
It's terrible really. At some point the emperor declared its design perfect and sacred and basically stopped the improvement of the weapon. This lead to the katana lacking key improvements like a hilt and being heavier than larger european counterparts. All in all it's just a giant fucking meme.

t. westerboo autist

>>722451670
It could be.

>>722451762
So let's say we took that same metallurgy technology and applied it to a katana. What then?

>>722451517
Its pagentry, nothing more.
It maybe affective but you could just as easily hang them

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Trench club master race

>>722451620
My word usage is shit, but I still havent heard a good enough retort sonny

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I'm of the opinion that the Estoc is a super neat weapon. I also really like the look of the Jian sword.

>>722451925
Then you have a two handed weapon with an impractical design. Maybe shorten it's handle, give it a full tang and throw on a basket hilt, and maybe then you'd have something worth using.

Nearly all swordfights in ancient history were on the battlefield. In that context, the best sword is one that can easily be wielded at the same time as a large shield, and supports a stabbing motion. These were commonly known as arming swords, and there are a variety of them that have survived in the archeological record to support this. Functionally, any lightweight, relatively-short, one-handed sword is nearly identical in this function.

If you're romanticizing it instead, as in a duel... Than a thin, light sword from the late Gothic period would give you the reach and speed necessary to defeat most earlier swords, while simultaneously being extremely resistant to breakage.

>>722452033
I like the way you think Mayne

>>722451762
>while Japanese culture refused to adapt, choosing instead to cling to tradition.
This... This doesn't really reflect the reality of the situation. The reason why the japanese use their FORDED ONE MIRRION TIMESU method is because of what they had to work with: generally shit quality, low purity iron ore. The whole folding thing comes from them repeatedly folding the iron back onto itself to work more carbon into the metal and work out impurities.

Considering the limitations of what they had to work with, the japanese actually did quite well with minimal resources. Now, should they have adapted design more than they did? Probably. But in terms of material science, europeans and the japanese were playing with different rules.

If you want an example of the japanese willingness to adapt, just look at their enthusiastic adoption of firearms as soon as they were available.

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>Not a single katana
Plebs

>>722451925
In addition to this fag: >>722452176 you'd still have a sword with a faulty sharp edge that would not last in settings where it's matched versus european armor or weaponry. It would be great for cutting down unarmed cattle.

>>722452240
>Low purity ore.
I read somewhere that the best way for get anything decent for sword craft was to smelt down sand and get the iron that way.

>>722451083
A Battleaxe and an Axe for Wood are not the same thing...

>>722452235
What about european renaissance longswords/two-handerd used to counter pike formations like the swiss square or the tercios?

Regarding katanas, weren't they mostly intended as a sidearm type weapon rather than the primary killing tool? I was under the impression that Samurai would rather use a bow or spear.

I don't know much about Japanese medieval warfare though, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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>>722448381

15 years ago back in year 10 metal work (shop class fat americans probably call it), me and a mate tried to make some swords. teacher was ok with it as long as wel didn't put edges on them

tried to base mine of the morrowind daedric claymore but couldn't get anywhere near it. still hanging up in my study.

need to clean the rust off it

>>722450268
Warhammers get no love
"Plate armor? No problem, ill just turn the plate into a sharp edge in the inside of his armor"

>>722452176
>>722452464

Interesting - thanks.

>>722451925

The katana is thicker (and thus heavier) than swords designed in the late medieval / early renaissance period that took advantage of this advanced metallurgy.

It is shorter than a proper two-handed sword and longer than an arming sword. It is roughly the same length as a longsword, and it's curvature would make it more useful for striking blows from horseback, although the scimitar outperforms it in such a function.

If both opponents are unarmored, it loses against contemporary swords like the rapier. If both opponents are armored, it loses against swords with a similar weight but significantly more reach and a better shape for puncturing armor like the estoc, and it also loses against heavier swords like the claymore.

In addition, the method that the japanese used for sharpening the katana left it with an edge that was unsuitable for fighting armored opponents, a much blunter edge would be required to avoid damaging the blade, which is why most late medieval swords used what is known as a chisel edge.

>>722452711
>What about european renaissance longswords/two-handerd used to counter pike formations like the swiss square or the tercios?
Describe for me the method by which a dude with a sword walks into a forest of pikes without dying horribly.

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>2018-2+1
>using a sword for anything
>not just keeping a wrench and a revolver in your car

>>722452545
The Norse used their one handed axes for both reasons.
Anything from hand to hand combat, ranged combat and normal tasks at home/around camp.
The axe that Swedish axe makers Gränsfors Bruk makes (Svensk viking yxa) was made with the template of an actual archaeological find. The axe head had a design for for all uses.

>>722452796
Japanese medieval warfare consisted primarily of daimyo's duelling eachother to death in preset, honorable situations. Lack of competition is the death of innovation.

Guys I just got caught trying on my mom's clothes so I could make a funny swordfighting pic. What the fuck do I tell her?

>>722452796
Came here to say this. Polearms were absolutely the main weapon of most frontline infantry, both European and Asian. Longer range, better defense, and much more adaptable to different situations than a simple blade could ever hope for. Swords were a secondary weapon at best.

>>722453081
Tell her you wanna fuck her and film it for Efukt as a comedy gag. She'll understand.

>>722452711
Two handed swords are super cool, but at least according to a quick google, were mostly used in bodyguard roles.

>>722453047
And then Portuguese flintlocks showed up and pike and shot ruined everything.

>>722452514
>I read somewhere that the best way for get anything decent for sword craft was to smelt down sand and get the iron that way.
Admittedly I'm not a materials science expert, but that sounds like bullshit. The majority of most sand is just crushed bits of rock.

>>722452917
That's exactly what zweihanders were for; disabling the polearms, chopping them off and carving a way into the formation.

>>722453047
>Japanese medieval warfare consisted primarily of daimyo's duelling eachother to death in preset, honorable situations.
Nigger what the fuck are you even talking about? This is just wrong. So blatantly wrong I'm almost certain you're trolling, but on the off chance you aren't, where did you even hear that?

>>722452926
I've actually got that exact same wrench in my jeep... and an lcr

>>722453348
>you're blatantly wrong but I'm not contributing anything to the progression of the discussion
Yeah, kys

>>722453279
>That's exactly what zweihanders were for; disabling the polearms, chopping them off and carving a way into the formation.
Describe to me the situation in which a guy with a zweihander walks into a forest of pikes without dying horribly.

I wasn't being facetious. Seriously, how does that even happen? You can't really cut the end off a spear, and even if you could, one dude taking great bloody swings of a greatsword takes a lot of space, which makes it hard to get a good formation, so while you're chopping up 3 or 4 pikes, the other 6 or 8 right behind and next to it are stabbing you to death.

The question is meant literally: how is it done?

>>722453505
Actually I have been quite a bit, but that's a total non sequitur.

Assuming you're the anon my reply was addressed to, seriously, where did you hear that?

>>722453546
You have to spin it around in your hand really fast so it makes a helicopter and then you raise it above your head and fly away

>>722452796
Yes, Katanas where considered a last resort.

>>722453384
Quality taste m9

I've got a shinier, newer one that was made for farm tractors or some shit, and I usually keep either my .38 special or my Browning Hi-Power in the glove box

>>722452711

The long, lightweight, early renaissance two-handed swords were effectively light polearms where the entire device could be used.

In this case, they're an effective weapon for fighting untrained pike-wielding infantry. In formation fighting like this, the pike-wielding infantry is at a disadvantage. The pike users cannot advance and maintain their formation, and if you're able to hit them from either flank, the two-handed swords will mop them up.

As always in a battle like this, a skilled commander is going to attempt to prevent his lines from being flanked, as even a millenia ago the Romans and Greeks had demonstrated the effectiveness of such a maneuver.

I'm not sure how this demonstrates they're the 'best sword' as they would still lose horribly against an estoc or rapier in a 1v1 duel, and they're unsuitable for use on horseback.

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>>722453546
I'm also quite skeptical that two handers can break a pike block, but half-swording is the closest thing that I can think of.

Pike battles are fucking horrifying.

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>>722451391
>>722451391

can't remember if it was the franks or one of those other countries (possibly viking-esk places)

but these dudes where raping english armies because they had a small dagger and shield in one hand and an axe in the other

they would drag/slash with the small dagger and sheild to open the other person up and then clobber them with the axe and it actually worked really well

till some english cock sucker worked out that if you formed up properly in line and when the dude tried to open you up with this shield and dagger the guy to the left of you just stabbed him, basically won some war using this method of the guy standing next to you stabbing your opponent

>>722453695
Mine is an old oil field wrench and a 38 special

>>722453717
see >>722453546

Also, if the two handed swords are useful in mopping up infantry, why do you see references to the fact that people breaking up pike blocks would almost always drop their primary weapon and take out a smaller weapon to fight more effectively in the confines of the tight-packed formation?

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>>722448381
No mention of the sword vlad the impaler used? For shame. But deadlist blade goes to the wasp injection knife lol

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>>722453639

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>>722453047
Are... Are there actually people who think japanese warfare consisted entirely of HONOROBU duels?

>>722453608
Keep asking for a source so you can discredit it without providing anything yourself. Point remains, the largest parts of Japanese medieval warfare consists of petty daimyo wars for control of the shogunate. The only thing that kept them from becoming just another mongol conquest was their isolation from the mainland. It wasn't until the Europeans came around that improvement flared up again and it wasn't until the industrial age that they became the superpower they would come to be.

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>>722448381

This sword has save my life more times than I can count. Not the best by any means, but it's reliable fairly easy to wield for a newbie, and will fuck up your enemies like you wouldn't believe.
Drawbacks: heavy, bit slow, requires some forethought when using

8/10 would use again.

>>722454294
This guy knows what he's talking about

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You are all filthy casuls

>>722454154
Wasp injection Knife?

>>722453546

Any melee fighter attempting to fight an organized pike-wielding unit from the front is going to lose.

Which is why you don't fight them from the front.

The pikes were extremely unwieldy and only worked in one direction. Even a skilled commander would not be able to turn his entire line on a whim. This left the unit completely vulnerable from the other three directions at once. A thinner, longer line of sword wielding troops could exploit this weakness and flank them, leaving the pike-users unable to react.

>>722454252
yep. people who have only read comic books and watched shitty anime.
cunts need to read a history book mang

>>722451311
Go back to 7th grade.

>>722451591

That's because swords were expensive you fucking autist. Spears were the most commonly used weapon in Viking armies.

Every single tomb of every rich viking ever found has had a sword in it, because they're better weapons than axes. Cutting and stabbing people with a sword doesn't require much strength or precision, with an axe if you miss with the axe-head you hit them with a piece of wood.

>>722454294
Wow this is really great information, it's sad that other guy is too dumb to understand it.

>>722454294
Quality post.

>>722454294
Truth.

>>722454390
>>722454489
If this is some false flag attempt at calling me a samefag, go eat shit.

>>722454464

Odin used a spear. The Nords knew well the power of such a weapon.

>>722454294
Only an idiot would disagree with this.

>>722452235
>at the same time as a large shield

Shields became irrelevant with improvements armour. It's why nearly all warswords from the late medieval and early early modern era are two handed.

>>722454400
It's a knife that after you stab you can push a button and inject opposite of co2 causing a swelling up of any spot you stab to the size of a basketball. Oh and co2 tends to be cold too so it causes internal frostbite

>>722448381
you know the saber is a mounted cavalry weapon? you need the force of a galloping horse to use it effectively.

>>722454603
>false flag

Fuck off.

>>722454708
800 psi*

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>>722454708
Oh fuck. but, Why was it invented?

>>722454294
>>722454390
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>>722454629
Jesus Christ anon, cool it with the fucking samefagging

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>>722448381
Either the gladius or the xiphos. Relatively light, nimble, utilitarian, and badass

>>722454603
>haha no one will know im obviously samefagging now

>>722454399
RS represent! its a shame youre an 07 nostalgiafag tho rip

>>722454656

You're right of course. Against foes in gothic or renaissance quality plate one-handed swords were nearly useless.

How often was such plate deployed on the battle field in large numbers, and for how long before the crossbow made such armor irrelevant?

>>722448794
have fun in the wilderness michone, me and my abs are gonna repopulate these bitches.

>>722454624
A spear is a woman's weapon

>>722454916
I grinded 10 hours onow rs3 today tho.

Gotta play both for no xp waste

>>722454401
IIRC, a lot of the battles that Tilly won during the 30 years war were decided when he sent his batshit crazy Croatians to turn a flank.
Flanking is good.
30 years war is really cool because you get this conflict between shock and firepower doctrines.
Also, I seem to remember a battle where roman legions were able to win a encounter against Greek hoplites because of rough terrain?
I think it was Cynoscephalae
Seems to be a related situation.

>>722449443
warspoon > weebtana

>>722454294
You're a faggot in every sense of the word.

Go ahead and keep pretending to be other people so it looks like anyone agrees with your dumbass horseshit.

>>722450268
polearms are best sword

>>722455027
I find this acceptable. OSRS was fun for a month until I realized not only am I doing the same shit i did 10 years ago, but its fucking piss easy and effortless. Completing monkey madness at level 30 should not be possible.

>>722455155

Usually correct, but it depends on how heavily armored your opponent is.

>>722455135
Look at this mad chink. This sushi ape so mad that I offended his history that he literally posted a dozen replies just to make people think someone else samefagged.

Never nuke a country twice...

>>722454294
>It wasn't until the Europeans came around that improvement flared up again and it wasn't until the industrial age that they became the superpower they would come to be.

Not exactly. During the warring period stage before the rise of the Tokugaya (?) Shogunate firearms were incredibly common in Japan, and all the major Japanese armies used very modern methods of building fortifications and equipping their armies.

Once the Tokuguya (?) Shogunate was secure nearly all of the firearms were destroyed and only samurai were allowed to carry swords. This made it harder for people of lower-classes to rise up against either samurai or the Shogun. Thus when (America I think?) fired on Japan the Shogunate was totally unprepared. However before that firing in the mid 19th century Japan had enjoyed a period of prosperity due to their isolationist policies and playing different Christian sects off against one another while still allowing trade.

>>722454805
Well first of all. Why not? Haha But essentially it's for self defense against large predators on land or underwater. If used on day a shark it would effectively kill it and make it act like a buoy to get back to the surface before any blood came spilling out of it and attracted more predators. It's also used in many military applications.

>>722454805
To kill people. Knife fight, manage to stab his leg, not necessarily a killing blow, unless of course you can just make his leg fucking explode.

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>>722448381
Prussian "Blucher" Sabre.

French Blood shall be spilled

>>722454624

Spears were incredibly common among every army since their invention. While the sidearm of the legionnaire was a sword; their primary weapon was the pilum despite what autists will have you believe.

>>722455569

Subtext: Only useful if you happen to be on horseback.

>>722455590

I was under the impression that the pilum was a lead javelin that bent after the first use and thus could not be thrown back. Technically a spear, but not really.

>>722454947

Crossbows didn't penetrate late medieval armour. Argincourt[?] (an example used to talk about how great the welsh longbow is) had more French deaths due to people being clubbed to death and stabbed than being shot. The armour at the time was pretty much arrow proof.

The medieval French armies had the actual French troops with full armour. Same with the Winged Hussars of Poland, plus various other armies. However, the Spanish were never big on heavy armour.

>>722454294
>stop asking me for a source, it's just true, and look at all these totally different not at all samefagged people who agree with me!
Bruh.

>the largest parts of Japanese medieval warfare consists of petty daimyo wars for control of the shogunate
True.

>Japanese medieval warfare consisted primarily of daimyo's duelling eachother to death in preset, honorable situations.
False.

Also,
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>>722454629

Calm down with the samefagging. It just makes you look desperate.

>>722455397
under the tokugawa all firearms manufacture was centralized to the island of tanegashima although the daimyo retained small stockplies. still these were only matchlocks which were originally traded for from the dutch and then mass produced locally

>>722448381
OP why are we debating this? The katana no matter how weaboo or cringey it, is is the superior blade.

>>722455355
Quit being a bitch. You got caught samefagging, stop whining and pretending it wasn't you.

>>722454401
>The pikes were extremely unwieldy and only worked in one direction. Even a skilled commander would not be able to turn his entire line on a whim.
This makes a degree of sense, but then why use greatswords? They're hardly the most efficient weapon for killing large numbers of infantry, contrary to what the media might like to depict.

>>722455770

That is the incorrect impression. And pilum was the wrong word, I can't remember the Latin name for their spear (Gaesta?), but Legionnaires carried to spears. A javelin and a thrusting spear.

>>722455355
Either prove you weren't samefagging or fuck off.

I would say the Danish longsword is arguably the best sword to ever grace this earth

>>722456113
I don't have to prove shit, bitch

>>722455949

I'm talking before the Tokugawa shogunate when the firearms were state of the art from Portugal (I think), during the warring states period Japan was very modern in their warfare at that time. You're correct that they didn't envolve much until the Meiji Restoration, but that was partially due to their isolationist policy.

>>722455829
crossbows, especially the heavy arbalest you have to load with a crank, are really only useful for sieges. in a siege that lasts month the slow reload time isn't as much of a drawback and in addition to their penetrating power they have the advantage of being able to fire instantly. a bow needs to be drawn back first and the extra half second may give an opponent time to duck back behind his arrow slit,

>>722455829

I was under the impression that crossbows could easily penetrate platemail, after all, they were banned by the Vatican for years because they could be used with such little training.

Even the wiki article for Agincourt mentions that they crossbowmen were disallowed to fire due to the narrowness of the terrain, not because their weapons were believed to be ineffective. Not to be 'that guy' but why do you think crossbows couldn't penetrate plate?

>>722456213
Wow, then fuck off.

>>722453317
>that filename

>>722456034
when plate armor got good enough that shields were no longer as necessary to defend against spears in melee a two handed sword became a better option, because a more powerful weapon was needed to harm heavily armored knights

>>722456034

They usually didn't use greatswords. It's extremely expensive to produce them, and they took years of training to use effectively.

It's kind of like saying 'extremely expensive, highly trained units defeat random assholes with shit gear.'

Of course the greatsword using unit would win. It didn't happen often in practice because you could have fielded three pike wielding units instead.

>>722455910
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>>722456113
Look mister Toyota, stop being so mad. I can't help that the hamburgers evaporated your bamboo cities and killed so may of your ugly women. I can't help that your country is a backwards shithole that propagates xenophobia, has an immensely high suicide ratio and will crumble under its national debt and non-procreating population. Now go back to making some crazy porn about miss hirohito putting eels in her ass, or miss nagasaki throwing up in miss hiroshima's mouth. Thank you. Goodbye.

>>722455910
Pretty sad if you ask me, Japanese feudal warfare was definitely not fought in just duels.

>>722456379
they can at close range but because the crossbow bolt is way lighter than a longbow arrow it will lose its power far quicker over distance.

>>722448649
Katanas are made with shitty pig-iron. They will break for a strong swing of any Scotsman's Claymore.

>>722456838

Makes sense.

I agree that the crossbow is an inferior weapon to the British longbow.

The difference being of course that it takes three generations to train a proper longbow user and you can just hand a crossbow to any random asshole.

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>>722451997
theres something evocative about them as an implement of war and a physical connection to the past, can't really imagine a noose on any country's flag

>>722456910

Depends on what era you're talking about. The katana was being produced long before the drunken foul-mouthed dress-wearing sheep-fuckers made their first claymores.

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>>722452240
they did try a few different configurations

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Prove me wrong.

KATANaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Longsword would win against saber.

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Macuahuitl might not be the best or strongest, but I just love the anchient Me so-American look. More fantasy novels, movies, and games need to use it

The idea behind it is the obsidian shards are incredibly sharp, but brittle. So when you swing you can cut into them ans break shard of it off. The unlucky bastard doesnt outright die, but can from the hemorrhaging. The Aztecs likes taking prisoners for sacrifice

>>722457592

Awesome video.

>>722456673
I'm the second guy, you are dumb as fuck mate. People are shitting on you cause you obviously samefagged like a bitch.

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>>722457859
Proof

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Would this be against the Geneva Convention if it was serrated?

>>722457696
>Me so-American
top kek
But I agree, its pretty cool

>>722457908

Triangle is not allowed, wound is too hard to close. Geneva Convention only applies to troops, that's why cops can use hollow-point. Buy whatever the fuck you want.

>>722448381

All you need to know about swords is: If you're fighting someone with a rapier, the best sword to use is a rapier, if not, basket hilt saber ftw.

>>722458122
Burgers can still buy it.

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>>722457696
Fucking typo
>meso-american
>when you swing, shards of it break off into them


Also, the hardwood club is really tough and the shards are easily replaceable

>>722457993
Seems my phone doesn't like that word

>>722458237

Man, I always love those fuckers for rushing early in Civ.

>>722457444
are you English?

>>722453081
Were you also weilding a flesh sword?
If not then get the fuck off /b, you underage faggot.

>>722449756
pretty much this, they could do massive damage to roman armors. Sadly they had a pretty shitty reach...

>>722451770
I love those things

>>722457592
I want to practice HEMA so bad...

>>722459524
Same

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Better than claymores AND katanas COMBINED!

>>722448381
There's no such thing as the best or ultimate sword.
I'll start saying that swords never were used as main weapons, usually the people that could afford one would have a pole-arm (and later a rifle) as their main weapon, you don't want to jump into a battlefield using only a sword because you would die in no time.
Now jumping into the "ultimate" sword well it depends on the circumstances, for example:
-If you're fighting against an armyyou might want to use a one handed sword or a falchion, because you want to use a shield so you can protect yourself against your enemies.
-If you're riding a horse you might want to use a cavalry saber.
-If you're in a 1v1 combat your best option is a rapier (they were made for that after all)
In the end it depends on what are you using your sword for.

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While you may have swords, tremble in fear for I have the greatest weapon of all time.

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Storm ringer was the most dangerous sword ever.

>>722457451
For sure, but compared to the diversity you find in european swords? It's no contest.

I recently got a reproduction Confed Cavalry sword.
Eh, I knew it was for decoration, and that it would have an inconceivably feeble tang, but I had to go swing at some twigs on the tree outside.
Of course it broke out of the handle.
Where could I go for a real sword with balls, and at an okay price?
I liked the feel of the cavalry sword, it was thin and easy to hold.
But the two handed claymore seems like something I would work well with.
I want to get into HEMA also, but I'm sure that's a different sword used for that.