So Americans want to ban Muslims because Muslims are dangerous,

>>721945637

'cuz 'murica

>>721946212
It's bread and circuses, man. Security theater. Real bad shit's going on but we'll never know about it.

guns dont kill people, people kill people

Gun ownership protected by constitution
Mudslime immigration not
/thread

>>721946724
The fact that Trump just memed himself into the White House scares me way more than a bunch of sand niggers.

>>721946800
Wasn't the Muslim ban deemed unconstitutional?
/thread

>>721946827
Time will tell what the hell kind of horrors this administration will bring about. Unlike with Obama, change is coming.

>>721946875
I thought so too, its actually frightening how many of my "friends" agree with it. Apparently Trumps taking the decision to court, so there will be a legal battle.

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>>721945637

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>>721946875

for 1 its not a Muslim ban, for 2 its 100% legal and 100% within his power

>>721946800
actually the first amendment says the government cant treat any religion better or worse than any other religion.

maybe you should read beyond what your confirmation bias allows.

>>721945637
>So Americans want to ban Muslims because Muslims are dangerous

no, radical islamic extremist are dangerous and the ban is from the countries where they pour out of. We don't want what is happening to Europe to happen in the USA.

Travel bans have been common as fuck with past presidents, even with Obama. But because its Trump the mass Media is twisting everything to get everyone against him because hes not following in line with a globalist agenda since hes not an institutionalized politician. Don't fall for media lies.

Don't be blind like everyone else and not actually look into the facts.

>>721945637
You're the retard.

You're describing two different sets of people. There are a large number of people that want to ban/place more control over guns that also don't want to ban muslims.

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>>721946953

Obama about destroyed this country

>>721945637
Ha. Terrorism has nothing to do with it. Thats just a nice red herring to distract the liberals and keep them arguing.

America is a WHITE CHRISTIAN nation. Sand niggers (or towel-heads as they prefer to be called) are the most fundamentally un-American immigrant group.

Chinks are hardworking capitalists (and many are Christian)

Niggers are lying thieves but always Christian. And we can't really deport them because we have no idea which country to take them back to. Slave records are spotty.

Mexicans are subhuman slime, but their committment to Christianity makes them likely Republican voters. Some of them can stay.

Kikes, Italians, Eastern European gypsies, well they proved their committment to white America by acting white and living the white life. They're slime, but ok.

Arabs (and Indians.... they count as Arabs. fuck what they consider themselves) are not white, not Christian, eat weird food, dress funny, talk a different language. Aside from the fact that they are totally conservative they have nothing in common with the ORIGINAL settlers of America, white Christians.

>>721945637
We're not banning Muslims because they're dangerous, we're banning them because they're coming here without permission.
That and we just don't like them.

>>721947105
oh, so i guess we can just keep shitting on the constitution since its a tradition :^)

>>721945637
If tramp wanted to ban Muslims he'd ban Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates. These countries had citizens who did 9/11 not the countries he's banned. Tramp has investments in those countries, he's profiting from terrorism

>>721946875
It will still go before the supreme court. The biggest problem with it is that it was done too hastily, you can definitely get the same effect legally if you changed the wording and implementation a bit.

>>721947220
>without permission
literally a lie
>we dont like them
unconstitutional

>>721947087
It is a Muslim ban and is not within his power, as the courts just ruled. Stop reading your alternative facts and join the real world.

>>721947177
Nice dubs but this comment is great for the politically illiterate.

>>721946784
Guns dont kill people. I kill people. With guns

>>721947123
>ban is on the countries where they pour out of
What about Saudi Arabia and Pakistan? Oh yeah, Trump has business interests in those countries.

>>721947087
It is a Muslim ban you moron. TRUMP himself said Christians from those banned countries are welcome. FUCKHEAD.

>>721947232

Saudi Arabia has lots and lots of juicy oil

>>721947308
>as the courts just ruled
>Three liberal judges
>One of them a woman
Gee, can you imagine?

>>721945637
the right wants to ban muslims because they are scared and are willing to say fuck you to the constitution to barely solve the problem, the left wants to ban guns because they are scared and are willing to say fuck you to the constitution to barely solve the problem, both can eat shit.

>>721947551
>i hate women lol take me seriously im a real American

>>721947551
>being in denial this hard

>>721947123
The blind like you leading the blind.

>>721945637>>721945637
lol sandniggers sure are butthurt about not getting to live in a christian western country where everybody hates them. here is an idea. stay in yer shitty fucking muslim country and improve it. and leave us alone. kthnxbai

>>721947551
we should get lord trump to kill all the women and liberals, that would be real democracy, am i right?

>>721945637
Radical terrorism is virtually non-existent in the US, which is why they want to keep muslims out. So it stays nonexistent.

It was non-existent in Germany and a bunch of other countries before they adopted an open door refugee policy.

Now assault, sexual assault, and rape cases are so numerous, they are not even being looked into. Women are afraid to go to public pools, go to school, or go out to celebrate simple things like new years eve, for fear of being gang raped by savage refugee hordes in the street.

Also, instances of radical muslim lunatics bombing public places, and knife attacks have skyrocketed.

The governments approval ratings in these open door countries is plummeting because these refugees don't know how to behave and are not remotely interested in learning. So there are media and law enforcement blackouts to try and hide the incredible size and desperation of the problems the citizens now face because of this policy, but since it is so wide spread, and since people talk, and since people have the internet, the information is there and available to anyone, from any country, if you want to look into it.

But if you just sit in front of your TV waiting for CNN to tell you about these things going on, you will never hear about it.

>>721947308
Nope. The appellate court ruling decided to keep the TRO (temporary restraining order) in place because the States showed that the executive order was having real irreparable harm to their citizens while the government could not point to any imminent harm from restraining the order. The court did not judge the merits of the order, including whether it is a Muslim ban. I look forward to Rudy frciking Giuliani being subpoenaed and forced to testify to being the real turd in the pool at the bottom of it all.

>>721945637
>even though radical terrorism is virtually nonexistent in the USA

9/11/2001 - 5000+ killed
boston marathon bomber
New York police trash can bomber
Orlando gay night club massacre (biggest mass murder by an individual in U.S. history)
2015 San Bernardino attack


just kill yourself

>>721947997
>christian western country

look, another person who didnt read the bill of rights.

>>721947997
>everybody hates them
>Trump lost the popular vote.

Yeah, no. FUCKHEAD.

>>721946724
who is gonna stand up for all dese peaceful muzzies mayne? i mean stoning gays and women is cool amirite? death to america1111!,,,

You know how hard Trump is fucked wheneven 4chan has turned on him. How long before his is impeached or assassinated?

>>721948075
Daily reminder that the Cologne New Years mass sexual assault has been debunked as fake news. GO BACK TO POL FUCKHEAD.

>>721946875
>>721947013
The fact that 2 recent previous presidents both halted immigration in the same way without being impeded sets precedent for any future president to do it. Or would, anyway, if there had been a legal dispute over it in the previous cases.

>>721946875
>>721947013
Was never a 'muslim ban'.

And was one of the first things the obama administration did, back when islamic terrorism was not as powerful as it is today. Back before there were any beheading and propaganda videos in professional studio quality. Complete silence then.

But today, every talking liberal mouthpiece, political hack, and phony entertainer out in force vocally opposed to it since Trump did it.

Enough of a clear indication of the crooked political machine for you?

>>721947997

Haha the ignorance (as expect from a Trump worshiper) Not even 25% of Americans voted for Trump. Most people aren't chicken shits like you who are petrified of anything not white. Follow your beta king.

>>721945637
You know, for a country built by foreigners, they sure don't like foreigners

>>721948113
your right, we should be scared and let the terrorists win, even though you are still more likely to get killed by lightning then terrorists.

>>721948123
>>721948115
bwahaha do you fucking retards know what percentage of muslims believe that apostates should be killed? look it up you woman and gay hating brainwashed shill fagets.also mohammad is a pedo.

>>721948113

By comparison to other murders and attacks that is virtually nonexistent. Keep worshiping Trump with your lack of information.

>>721948246
Yes, the millions of people protesting in the streets are all phony entertainers.

>>721948387
>Muhammad is a pedo
so is most people on /b/

get lord trump to ban /b/

>>721948172
4chan hasnt turned on trump. 4chan is being shilled by retards who hate women and homosexuals.

>>721948387
Yes, because no Catholic priest ever has been found diddling little kids. Amirite?

>>721948417
lol millions. soros pls kys.

>>721947817
You don't have to hate anyone in order to recognize how they operate. Women are emotional creatures and possess a nurturing instinct. That's common knowledge. Their instinct is to protect those that they perceive as vulnerable, and they’ve been told that these monkeys are vulnerable, so they're going to do anything to protect them no matter what.

Funny how it’s mostly women everywhere that are in support of mass Islamic immigration, isn't it?

This is why women shouldn’t be involved in politics or be put in positions of power. Because these savages become teddy bears in their minds, and they act on it.

No wonder why Sweden, a place run mostly by women and emasculated men, has become the rape capital of Europe (the vast majority of rape committed by Muslim immigrants, go figure)

>>721947843
I'm not denying anything.

>>721948002
Uh, no. That's wrong.

>>721948597
Ah yes...the Soros boogeyman.

>>721945637
Trump doesnt speak for me. Even trump supporters are like wtf but its stupid because this kind of shit is exactly what he promised. The only thing he didnt do is put hillary clinton in jail. The reason we dont want to ban guns is because that was only disarm law abiding people since illegal guns are so fucking easy to come by, and the media is toying around with our fears so we end up fearing muslims. Its an irrational fear considering we put our selves in way riskier situations than being around a muslim every single day. You should see our damn news. We basically fear what they want us to fear. Black people and Muslims

We like Trump! We want moar Trump! Make the president great again!

>>721948522
let me know when jesus diddles little grils umkay? also bwahaha how long has it been since a muzzy raped an infidel or blew something up in yurop?

>>721948659
15 year old virgin detected.

>>721945637
Damn near all the mass terrorist shootings we've had were white citizens...

>>721948659
>Women are emotional creatures

so are you if your willing to play word chess with what the first amendment states in plain text because you get scared.

>>721948745
guard yer booty hole. sumbody gunna get raped by an african trying to cure his aids.

>>721945637
Stupid. Radical terrorism is only so low in the USA because they have been so strict with Muslim immigration. Ban all Muslims and there'd be zero terrorism.

Also, radical terrorism? All terrorism is radical you retard.

>>721948740
People in Europe actually have a better quality of life than you inbred Americans. But you will never hear about it on Fox News.

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He's going to repeal Obamacare and I will be dead by this time next year. It's been fun guys remember me.

Don't you forget about me

>>721948659
Sweden has become the rape capital of the world because Sweden has extremely low tresholds for rape.

>>721948826
I'm not scared. Virtue signaling will protect us from terrorism, don't you know?

>>721948916
wikileaks guy is a rapefugee

>>721948858
>Ban all Muslims and there'd be zero terrorism.

dumbest statement of all time.

i get that you dont call mass shootings or bombings terrorism unless the person who does it is brown but this is just 100% dumb.

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>>721948791

>>721948791
hahaha you are so brainwashed. you hate white christians cause they are backwards inbred hicks who abuse women and fagets but you love brown people who do the same shit. kys cognitive dissononce spouting shill.

>>721945637
Why doesn't Trump ban immigration from Quebec? SINCE THE LAST BIG TERROR ATTACK WHERE 6 PEOPLE DIED was caused by a White Christian Quebecer, um?

>>721946875
As much as I wish it was a Muslim ban, it wasn't. Also, it hasn't been deemed unconstitutional, it was merely temporarily reverted until it can be determined whether it is unconstitutional or not.

Fact is, it's not unconstitutional, and you don't need to have gone to law school to know that. The SC will overturn the decision by the 9th court - AKA the most overturned court in the US - and that will be that.

>>721948791

except from them 60 terrorists that attacked from them 7 banned countries

>>721949012
lol let me know how many white dudes have blown up airliners and or airports u fucking retard.

>>721947232
Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates are two of the most stable and civilized muslim nations presently. The 9/11 attacks were a decade ago, and are not what this is about. Todays threat is about ISIS and other islamic cults growing in power and immigrating to spread and conquer other nations. They will do as they have done in other muslim countries, who were as recently as the 90s, stable, peaceful, grounded, and turn them into the women subjugating, gay killing, christian burning, religiously zealous savage war zones you see today.
They form ghettos in the western countries they immigrate to, then they self-enforce sharia law in these areas, they muscle out non-muslims who are living in the area, and then attack and harrass anyone who comes into the area they've taken over that doesn't belong, or who is not obeying sharia. Then they pump out 5 kids each and continue to spread outward.
They take over by force of intimidation and domination, and can within a single generation, turn a relaxed, tolerant, mixed-religion nation into a muslim dominated intolerant sharia nation.

It is actually incredible to me that liberals defend these barbarians and conservatives refuse them. It should be the other way around.

>>721945637
Guns don't kill people, Muslims kill people with guns.

>>721949058
it actually is unconstitutional, the government cant make legislation that treats a certain religion better ow worse than Any other, making a very lazy and transparent loophole of what the constitution states is exactly what liberals do with he second amendment and conservatives lose their fucking mids over it but they don't seem to mind doing it for their own benefit.

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>>721947997

>try to improve country
>hear some shit about afganis and saudis flying some planes into buildings
>*phew* good thing it has nothing to do with us
>iraq gets invaded by usa
>usa do al qaeda a favor by handing over sudam who they then proceeded to hang as before he kept them in check
>whole middle east is displaced
>people who invaded and fucked the whole region think the people they killed are now going to listen to them

you reap what you sow :^)

>>721949036
Because it wasnt done in the name of god or jesus you stupid cocksucker.

>>721947421
Oh yeah Obama came up with this list initially... Trump thought if he used the list that Obama came up with there would be less backlash..

>>721949036
the dumbbest thing in the world is to be waging war in other countries for 20 years and also allowing anybody from those countries to get on a plane and fly into your country. it is fucking stupid. you are asking to have your country turned into a war zone. it is just common sense.

We’ll See You in Court: Why Trump’s Executive Order on Refugees Violates the Establishment Clause

https://www.aclu.org/blog/speak-freely/well-see-you-court-why-trumps-executive-order-refugees-violates-establishment

>>721949152
how about the Oklahoma city bombing?
how about the unibomber?
how about the abortion clinic bombings?

you cant pretend like there would be a utopia without islam.

>>721949325
One is a constitutional right, the other is nothe unconstitutional, inbred snowflake.

>>721949338
our wars in the mideast are stupid as shit. but it doesnt mean we should let fgts from those countries into the us. it is fucking asking for trouble to do dat.

>>721945637
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/homesec/R44743.pdf

page 9

Not only that, but Trump isn't even banning Muslims as much as he's banning the regions that Obama and USA bombed for the past decade.

>>721949480
by what means?

how much word chess did you have to play to turn the first amendment into that?

have you even read it?

>>721949475
lol 3. wew lad.

>>721949475
I'm sure Africa and middle eastern countries would be a utopia without islam.

>>721949152
How many were bombed in the name of their gods, you stupid piece of shit? It's not that hard to think.
>retard

>>721949159

You just perfectly described what happened between Israel and Palenstine and now the muslims are doing to you what the Jews did to them

And yes 9/11 is very relevant. When you removed sudam, guess who took over iraq. I'll give you a hint. Islamic State of Iraq and Syria

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>>721945637
>radical terrorism is virtually nonexistent in the USA

That's because we're better than everyone else at stopping it. Also people kill people, don't need a gun to kill someone. You've been dismissed eurofag. Go diddle your fiddle.

>>721948916
Yes, that's it. It has nothing to do with this
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape
or this
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article23106850.ab
or this
http://www.expressen.se/gt/annas-15-ariga-dotter-antastades-i-publiken/
or this
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/fler-anmalningar-om-sexofredanden-under-peace-love/
or this
http://www.friatider.se/utl-ndska-m-n-gick-till-attack-mot-flickor-p-antirasistisk-festival
or this
https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://nyheteridag.se/gang-sexofredade-13-arig-flicka-mitt-pa-dagen-ingen-vuxen-i-nassjo-ingrep/
or this
https://twitter.com/MartinA39679335/status/759051588413513730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
etc.

It's just a technicality!

>>721949592
more than 3, that was just 3 examples, you could count the school shooting but im sure most people would try to justify those.

>>721949159
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

>>721949600
just so

>>721949647
you also dont need Islam to kill people, but im sure your conservative brain cant comprehend that.

>>721949583
You can't even tell what the 3rd amendment is without a Google search.

>>721948417
Well california is a cesspool filled with permanent democrat voters and it's population is in the millions and them opposing anything republicans do while being OK with a democrat doing it is proof enough of them being phony... so where is the thing you are trying to point out again??

Forgot to rebut every other point as well I'm sure the case is that it just slipped your mind and not that you know absolutely nothing about anything snarking liberal chimp

>>721949786
Unfortunately your libtarded brain is a mental health issue.

>>721949722
you replied 2 wrong person

>>721949786
No, you don't need islam to kill but stats show that it certainly helps.

>>721949227
And in euro gun free countries, they kill with knives and bombs instead

>>721949796
we arent talking about the 3rd amendment, are we?

nice red harring though

you're trying to make an argument about the 1st amendment, and you choose to ignore the part about the government making legislation against religions.

>>721949931
actually stats show that gun violence kills far more people, uh oh.

>>721949857
funny you say that since conservitives say gun violence is because of mental health issues but they do literally nothing to improve the health care system to solve the problem, its almost like you are far more retarded.

>>721950018
Yes, and mostly in gun controlled states. Funny.

>>721945637
>You're not a raging libcuck faggot in Europoor disguise.

Wew-lad.

>>721950188
I'd like to see some stats on that, otherwise I'm thinking you're just pulling that out your arse.

This is so stupid. If Trump wants to stop refugees, just stop backing up Ahrar al-Sham and "accidentally" arming and giving money to ISIS over and over again. These proxy armies can't survive if the US doesn't support them. They'd be crushed in no time. No need for safe zones and all that nonsense. No need to flood the West with monkeys and destroy our countries. But Trump's a Zionist puppet, or maybe he just pretended to be one because you can't become president if you don't suck Israel's balls. We'll see.

>>721947308
>[...] as the courts just ruled.
Try again, idiot. Only the temporary restraining order was kept active. Stay delusional.

>>721950188
funny how there was more gun violence there before the laws were even put in place.

its almost like there would be gun violence there no matter what, but you guys think more guns would somehow solve that, giving more guns so that little timmy can have a gun in his high class neighborhood wont stop gang shootings.

>>721945637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul3wR5TCGoA

Libtard.

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>>721945637
although I agree about nonexistent terrorism (except antifa, black lives matter etc, violent organisations)

>>721950269
You only need to look at chicago, washington DC... really a couple of the most stringent in the country about gun laws and the gun violence rates are off the charts.

>>721950490
>nonexistent terrorism
>nothing happened in 2016, or even 2017 for that matter

>>721947411
Women are stupid and I dont respect them.
Thats right.
I just have sex with them.

>>721946875
>muslim ban
we dont see trump banning saudi arabia. usually I agree with trump but this is just wrong that US has a strong alliance with a country like this.

>>721947421
Saudi Arabia is rich as fuck and doing fine. They are not sending "refugees" by the millions. That is why.

>>721950407
Go with facts. Oh wait, you don't have any to support your stupidity. Drink bleach.

>>721945637
Wtf is wrong with fucking reatarts baiting people with Trump threads everyday that are full of bullshit

>>721945637
guns dont kill anyone? crazy people with guns kill people

radical terrorists are not all muslims. like 40% people fighting in ISIS are not from the banned countries.

>>721945637
>>721945637
MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH MUH GUNS MUGH

>>721945637
Cars too killing thousand of people each year so they should ban it too?

>>721950320
You're thinking about Obama, you anti-semetic piece of shit.

>>721950407
Most gun deaths in the U.S. are from suicide.

Actual gun violence against others that results in death is 0.6% of the total deaths in the U.S. each year.

Yet, in these gun free zones you have the highest gun crime rates in the U.S. Go figure.

https://ucr.fbi.gov

>>721950648
Ah, so ban Europe too? That will go over real nice.

>>721947478
>>721947478
actually they sent back Christians lol. my super christian friend freaked the fuck out dumb cunt voted for Trump.

But in all seriousness, while technically not a muslim ban...

>He said he would ban Muslims
>He tried to ban Muslims
>Forced to dial it back and make it "legal" so he just focuses on certain countries
>Now pretending its not about Muslims
>Oh and lets blame obama too
>Can't list one thing wrong with current vetting procedure

These idiots think the only potential downside of importing millions of sandniggers to our countries is terrorism. Not the huge economic burden, not the huge infrastructural problems, not the huge waves of theft, assault, rape, etc. No, just terrorism. So if they're not terrorists, then it's all cool. Let them in by the millions.

>>721950653
/thread

>>721950543
I already said that not all terrorists are muslims. there are also niggers and different organisations that are not defined by race or religion.

>>721950781
And /thread

>>721948075
>Radical terrorism is virtually non-existent in the US, which is why they want to keep muslims out. So it stays nonexistent.

Just christians shooting up churches, planned parenthood, and oh that FBI building in Oklahoma. lol.

>>721945637

There's a 0,000001% chance i will get robbed/shot in my home, yet all of us still close the doors and lock our house at night.

Same with muslims----- why let in millions of these cockroaches that only increase the chance of getting murdered in my home?

NOT TO MENTION, WHAT KIND OF RETARDED LOGIC ARE THEY USING?

>we have a civil war, a number of morons in flip-flops armed with AK-47 are running around killing people.
>Let's all pack our bags and move the entire population of africa/middle east to Europe/USA!!
>What a fantastic idea!! Lets just abandon lands we've been living in for the past couple of thousands of years.


WHOEVER THINKS MASS UNCONTROLLED IMIGRATION IS A GOOD IDEA DESERVES AGGRESIVE CANCER.

>>721950784
No proof hence fake news.

>>721948099
>I look forward to Rudy frciking Giuliani being subpoenaed and forced to testify to being the real turd in the pool at the bottom of it all.

Jesus I didn't even think of that rofl. What a dumb cunt he was bragging about it too.

>>721950783
nah, just ban people that are actually involved with this shit. why do you guys have the NSA and CIA for then? cant even remember the last time these fuckers stopped an attack.

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>>721948417
>Yes, the millions of people protesting in the streets are all phony entertainers.

This is what conservatives actually believe

>>721950847
Notice the other Middle East countries aren't taking them.

>>721950925
>nah, just ban people that are actually involved with this shit.
Awesome. Now how do you do that?

what's up with the marxist libtards lately on /b?

>>721950925
I can't remember the last time I didn't contract measles because I was vaccinated.

>>721950892
which part do you need proof of?

You're retard mate take look at terrorist attacks in Paris, and now imagine that those people would have weapons, there would't be such bloodshed, cuz people could defend themselves.

>>721950962

no, they are just the useful idiots of some jihadist fuckers like linda sarsour

>>721950981
intelligence agencies have tons of information about terrorists. CIA and NSA have had previous information about ALL terrorists who blew something up and killed people. it's like they just let it happen every time

>>721951072
Just like cancer, the Tumblrs are spreading.

>>721946800
It's a limited right, kinda like you can't give a gun to an infant, if a man has the mind of an infant, they shouldn't own a gun either. If their IQ is that of an infant's, like yours, then they shouldn't have guns either.

>>721950969

That's because everybody knows they are cockroaches, nobody wants these illiterate pieces of shit in their own country, besides retarded libtards.


I'm also pretty sure the families of the few hundred murdered Europeans last year would also like to share a word about the fucking immigrants.


The entire world for some reason started doing everything in the opposite way things should be handled.

I have a right to own guns!

I do not have a right to own Muslims!

But I'd be willing to talk about it!

>>721945637
I'm all for making it really hard to get an assault rifle but banning guns will never happen. I think somewhere around 280 million americans own a gun. How do you plan on collecting those? You going to go in all their homes and confiscate them? A lot of these guns dont have to be registered, how are you going to prove they've got them? You going to pay these people back for the guns they paid for legally? It's just not a reasonable thing. As for the muslim ban, we unfortunately have a guy who's using christianity to grow his following and allow him to get away with fascist things in the name of god. GOP loves to divide and conquer and if they can pit christians and muslims against each other they can quite simply make both weaker. Americans will of course fall for it because we've got some hard on for god except for the actually adhering to anything but cherry picked ideologies from a book that was re-written and re-interpreted about 6 or 8 times before it ever got to us over things that were told orally for 80 years. Humans are stupid.

>>721951072
they are just average trolling faggots trying to get replies with shitty bait

>>721951188
this

>>721951090
You're entire argument. Kek didn't expect to prove all of it, eh? What a shill.

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>>721945637
It's worse than that. Americans also love drone strikes. The Afghanistan Drone Strike program at its nadir was killing more civilians (including children) than all the firearms int he US.

We're phasing out Drones in Afghanistan but escalating them in Pakistan. And we still like to wipe out villages because a person-of-interest might be there.

The United States are ignorant because we're uneducated and we tolerate government opacity. We like to pretend that we can trust our government when it's "our" side in control.

But in reality we spy on who we want, and we massacre who we want, and we pretend that it's all okay.

>>721945637
>radical terrorism is virtually nonexistent in the USA
>yet

>>721945637
Why do so many foreigners give a shit about what's happening with the gun rights in my country. I mean I don't really care that you're beating each other to death with fuckin hammers like some sort of primates.

>>721951188
And why do you think we have the right to bear arms? Let me guess, you think for hunting and it's cool right?

>>721946875
Foreign muslims are not protected by the United States constitution, because they are not citizens of the United States.

>>721951188
True assault rifles are already banned, as a true assault rifle is fully automatic, there are some states where you can own a fully automatic assault rifle, the process of getting one is extremely steep, and very difficult. And AR-15 is an assault rifle in the same way a Mossberg MMR is an assault rifle, they are both semi-automatic guns meaning 1 shot per trigger pull.

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>>721945637
>America want's to ban terrorists wah

It's not just America :)

>>721951565
fake

>>721951512
I know, but it's not that hard to get them. You can buy 2 or 3 pieces legally and assemble both assault rifles and machine guns yourself without even having to necessarily modify them. Also, I'm expecting the gun laws to get much much more relaxed pretty soon.

>>721951596
Prove it shit lord

>>721951163
Only repubs can have gunz, dude. it be lawz

>>721945637
Nice bait

>>721945637
Its not the guns that are dangerous, its the niggers.
>good luck getting a nigger ban tho

>>721951628
At that point you have an illegal gun though, and are breaking the law at a federal level. Just saying. I cannot speak for other gun owners, but I can speak for myself and as a responsible gun owner I would not make the modifications as to stay within the confines of the law.

>>721951565
you could add most of the rich muslim nations to that list

>>721945637
That's because there are hardly any Muslims, genius.

>>721951628
False, list a specific example

>>721951596
Wrong achmed

https://www.rt.com/news/376651-europeans-oppose-refugees-research/

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/08/europes-fear-of-muslim-immigration-revealed-in-widespread-survey.html

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/08/survey-majority-europeans-want-halt-muslim-migration/

>>721951722
>nigger ban
yeah that's not possible to ban them from US, but we have guns, lets ban them from their existence!

>>721951565
Wow, Poland, based Polski's

>>721951825
Most libtards will dismiss rt and breitbart... but cnbc is a good source for libtards

>>721945637
>Anti-Trump groups
Give well thought out and logical arguments.

>Pro-Trump groups
Kys cuck BTFO libtard shill faggot

>>721951723
But it's an easy get around, legal or illegal doesn't really matter if you're making it available and not going after anyone who does it. Take the HB2 law in North Carolina for instance. In spite of it being technically illegal for a person to use the opposite sex's restroom...there's no bathroom police, there's no legal ramifications, there's no teeth to it. I think assault rifles and machine guns are the only guns you might be able to control the distribution of at this point. But essentially gun laws are becoming pointless as time goes by, we just have to bite the proverbial and well literal bullet as they say.

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>>721949159
>The 9/11 attacks were a decade ago
The executive order specifically cites the 9/11 attack in its rationale.

Over the past 4 decades, terrorists from countries included in the ban have been responsible for zero deaths on American soil.
https://www.cato.org/blog/guide-trumps-executive-order-limit-migration-national-security-reasons
(retort tip: Cato Institute is a conservative organization)

>>721951982

Since assault rifles and machine guns are essentially the same thing, yes they are highly regulated at this point.

As for the bathroom thing, if a business catches and individual using the incorrect restroom they can call the police and press charges.

Just the same as if you are caught with an assault rifle (by proper definition) the gun is confiscated and you are hit with a federal offense, unless you have the proper documentation for said assault rifle. There is plenty of teeth there.

>>721945637
The Cold War standoff in the United states just in case is like government abuses their power one too far we can defend ourselves and then reset the government wants more purely out of necessity.

>>721952141
Death isnt the only problem muslims being. Very important. And thats because your muslim population is very small. Problems start happening when it increases. Europe for example.
in France there is a 13% muslim population, yet a prison population of no less than 70 (seventy) percent. If you americans dont see why muslims are a bad idea, then please take ours. You are very welcome.

>>721952240
There is potentially teeth there, but it never happens. Virtually the only "being caught with an illegal fire arm" stories you ever hear about are rappers and athletes. And if you can just buy the extra parts for modifiable weapons online there's almost no discouragement at all. And at the end of the day, the person we're trying to stop from carrying an assault rifle probably isn't Dale who rants about the civil war on facebook it's some guy who's gone off his rocker and wants to shoot up a nightclub, school, or theater. You say it has teeth, because it's supposed to have teeth, I say it doesn't because I see no real examples (outside of rappers and athletes of course).

>>721952538
>Problems start happening when it increases.
True. The US has a massive problem with Christians.

I'm pretty sure under the circumstances that it's crime once again like disguised under religion Baptist extremist exist and they do crooked things and some of them order on Mafia

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>>721945637

this is the most icky, yucky and preposterous president since Boris Yelzin.

to all americans, who didn´t vote for this ugly idiot, i wish you strength, you will endure this travesty of a head of state.

>>721947013
being this cucked

>>721952729
You can make jokes all you want. I know what its like in my country and you would be smart to not let it happen. Numbers like that cant just be ignored and blamed on evil white men.

>>721945637
Yea last time we thought terrorism wasn't here, 9/11 happened. Open up you're borders and let them in.

>>721951825
Interesting.. no CNN story. What a surprise!

>>721952782
>implying the spirit cooking witch would have been a better result

lol

>>721949673

Not a single non bias, no agenda article.

What a fucking shock

>>721952869
No we made a slightly more secure process of letting them in and quickly doing check out some those who might do something crooked wants more another words we made it slightly more tighter secure vetting process to make sure that we don't get a terrorist granted public opinion May differ on certain people thought don't need to be from another country to be a terrorist you can be a terrorist within your own country as well we have ours in the United States we have a problem because they have infiltrated the police force and very into government agencies so it's hard to find them sort of like you have in your country as well I had assumed you would have people that are shady in your government you can't pretend like your shit don't stink too

>>721945637
Im waiting for trump to ban BLM

>>721947105
Fake news le pepe.

>>721947123
This. Go back to sucking daddy's dick cause ur mom is dead dumbass.

>>721953085
After All You Can't Ban immigration in the United States we're made of immigrants

>>721952729
>odd lone wolf attack by some christian white kid with mental illness v worldwide muslim terrorism

The former is an isolated event, the latter is part of a larger pattern.

>>721947411
Apes with guns kill people ape being equal to the word idiot

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>>721947177
"Alternative facts"

>>721945637
>guns kills thousand of people
people kill people, not the guns.

>>721945637
Well, the thing is: Trump want to do a lot of things, and with the left and justice system and dems AND republicans in his way, he can't do the things.

So what does? he creates something that don't affect that many people but cause a massive uproar on both sides of the spectrum and let em fighting while he does the things he want to do unopposed pretty much.

It's bait, and the whole america bit it.

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>>721947177
This, literally the worst president America has ever seen, thank God we have seen the back of that weak, divisive moron.

>>721953228
>thinking the problem is just shootings

>cries fud about threat of sharia law, but perfectly ok if actions & legislation are bible based

>>721945637
It's not because a muslim might be a terrorist that i don't want them in my country because I cannot respect anyone who would believe such a barbaric disgusting religion.

>>721945637
You got it all wrong.. its not about terrorism .. its about protecting the virginity of our camels.. we don't need any camel fuckers

>>721953368
We'll keep a long story short maybe he just wants to cut off for an oil and entirely but the oil companies want him not to see the fact that we can use alternative fuel sources therefore they show disinformation by just having them watch Fox News it's not like we want him to be an idiot it's just he is pushed into it by governments abusing their Authority or in this case lobbyist and I care for every man woman and child in this country black white asian Hispanic wherever they come from after all we didn't come from here we just so happened to be born here so we must respect the fact not the fact of the matter or alternative facts but facts Simple mathematically determined so hold down science move forward don't hold it back it's not like every American is who's represented by their president when we have protest is to prove that America does not believe in is government when it is a corrupt Administration and a corrupt Senate we try to do what we can to make sure they don't change the laws to suit their needs

>>721948872
Tell me more about sweden's sex crime rate and the truck attacks

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>>721953550
Christianity has done nothing but improve civilisation and Islam is equally fine when practised in islamic shithole countries, in fact low IQ muslims from this medieval culture NEED ruling with a rod of iron, they only understand brute force. Just keep it out of advanced, 1st world nations.

>>721953782
One word Dubai

>>721953704
I think you need some of those: ,,,,
and some of those too: ....
Have fun!

>>721953869
Thank you grammar Nazi if they can read it they can understand it

>>721953782
Every single image on the left was achieved despite christianity.

I'm not some fedora tipping l33t, actually religious myself.

>>721953837
Dubai is full of white Western Christian technology paid for with oil money, even the Burj Kalifa, their flagship skyscraper was designed and engineered by the West lol

>>721953869
All scientist hate grammar

>>721954030
They're learning with it are they not

Lol look what happened when retarded Europe give green light too mass immigration. Look what those fucking people are doing. Look at france. From a great and lovely country into a third world shit hole.

Fuck off you stupid cuck. Trump needs to perma ban this retarded religion.

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Without guns, there would be no America. We would still be an English colony. Unfortunately, we had slavery and our country is filled with millions of unemployable black people who murder, rape, steal and mooch off the government. Despite the fact that they make up only 12 percent of our population, black people collect nearly 50 percent of the total welfare and commit nearly 60 percent of the total violent crimes (if you believe the FBI crime statistics). Our biggest problem is not guns in the US. Our problem is lawless niggers. When someone criticizes the Muslim ban I always ask them "what does letting Muslims into our country do to benefit me?" Answer: fucking nothing.

>>721945637
Another terrorist group caught in France today (including a 16 year old girl) with bombs fashioned after al qaeda designs. And Americans are the stupid ones for wanting to keep them out?

Kek, ok idiot

>>721954095
Religion isn't retarded people that take lessons from philosophy to suit their own purpose from the book is retarded long story short those who abuse their power are away is blind by ambition

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>>721953782
Who do you think kept the sciences alive when Christians were afraid of their own shadows?

Either way, regardless of the faith, aggressive religion has never done any good for the world.

>>721954263
The pagans

>>721953550
>being stupid enough to compare sharia law, which still condones stoning woman when caught having sex, to "Bible based" legislation that's based in general morality as a whole and protects/benefits society overall.

>>721954175
Source!? Please be real, please be real :))))

>>721954175
America already have a quite decent anti-terrorism system.
It would be teared apart by Clinton and Soros of course, but now it will just stay there, protecting americans as it does, while trump distracts everyone.

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>>721945637
Moments before OP made this thread

>>721954211
The only way you could even agree with your view point. Is if we view Islam and its teachings as a work of fiction. Because this religion is filled with so many bad ideas that if you take it seriously for even a second you tend to cross the line really quickly.

>>721954344
Stupid people exist everywhere once more regardless of religion

>>721954263
>from the idea
you don't know shit about history

>>721945637
guns are written into our declaration of independance. theres nothing garanteeing muslims have a right to be here so fuck off eurotrash

>>721954366
I compared the Bible the Greek mythology the same way

>>721954334
>thinking morality is exclusive to Christianity

>>721954344
Sure thing man

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/teenage-girl-new-paris-new-terror-attack-plan-arrest-montpellier-four-suspects-suicide-bombing-a7572716.html

ask and you shall receive

>>721954461
And not the and

>>721954440
You have a higher chance of getting shot by a cop than even seeing a muslim in america, why are you people so dense?

>>721954461
Sure. I agree. But you and i are looking into it from deattached view point. Most of the people in religion of islam look into that retarded book and follow its teachings in real life.

>>721954495
I didn't say that at all, dipshit. I said most of whatever "Bible based" legislation you're talking about has been based on generally moral grounds as a whole and not specific to the religion. Anti-abortion laws? Yeah, it's wrong to kill fucking babies anywhere on the planet regardless of some stupid "muh body" shit. You don't like it? Don't fuck around and get pregnant in the first place. Easy, really. I don't know what other examples you're crying about, but again, they're generally for the good of society and comparing the shit to sharia law where they advocate cutting off someone's arm for stealing shit is just dumb as all fuck to be honest.

You'll grow out of your fedora phase some day.

>>721954574
And so radicalism because they're being manipulated like sheep

>>721954550
>There's all these coyotes walking around, not killing shit that doesn't provoke them, so don't put up that bear fence to keep the grizzlies away when they most definitely will kill you.

makes sense sure

In my opinion as American corporations look as religion as a means to an end a tool to control the populace if the man lies to you and does not tell you. you were fooled

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>>721954550
Because we want to keep it that way you massive fucking idiot. Have you seen what happens in countries like France who have allowed their muslim population to explode?

>>721954550
But they're Muslim cops in America

Why does every europoor faggot want America to be like their shit-tier country? Are you jealous? You gave up your guns, we still have ours. You welcomed in barbarians, we're smart enough to close the door. In short, you fucked yourselves. Now you want us to do the same?

Pathetic honestly but we're all having a good laugh at your expense don't worry.

>>721954505
Shared everywhere, thx

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>>721954384

>>721945637
Read the Constitution of the United States. All of it.

>>721955517
Jewish Extremism is inaccurately represented and is the product of most of the reported Sunni Islamic Extremism.

>>721955401
Yeah man no problem. Best to stay informed.

>>721955517
Goddamn, this christians are fucking efficient.
Almost half the attacks of the Shia, but twice the deaths.

>>721945637

There are no gun deaths in the US each year...you are retarded.

>>721946953

You realise time has already told on this one yes?

In that, he's a fucking idiot bully who doesn't give a shit about due process and thinks he can just do whatever he wants?

He then berates and belittles the judicial law of the land, and on Twitter?!

What sort of fucking President uses their personal Twitter to comment and insult their ongoing issues and work?

He's a fucking idiot.

You got the moron you deserve.

>>721945637
>But they don't want to ban guns

Not only are we NOT going to ban guns, but the ATF just announced that we will soon be able to import cheap AK47s and other military surplus weapons from other countries, no more regulations on silencers, armor piercing ammo can be purchased again etc,.... :)

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/read-the-white-paper-on-firearms-regulations/2325/

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>>721954635
Don't want an abortion? Don't get one. Simple as that.
If you truly believe "every life is precious" then try giving a fuck about actual living people instead.

Not all Muslims believe that extreme shit you peddle in your FUD. Yes, there are some deep-end fucknuts who think the Koran holds all the answers, just as there are deep-end fucknuts who think all knowledge comes from the Bible. Most people just want to get on with their lives and not deal with shit from fucknuts of any faith or ideology.

Go drink some bleach. You'll be safe.

>>721955734
this is true. i've never witness a gun actually dying. where's the proof??

>>721955951
>this is true. i've never witness a gun actually dying. where's the proof??

exactly, and i've never seen a gun go out and commit a crime.

>>721955870
Obama didn't care much for due process either. He quite literally had an American citizen executed. No arrest. No trial. Just execution.

>>721955870
Uh, if you knew anything about our "due process" you'd realize that nothing he did was unconstitutional and he hasn't been shot down yet, just "stayed" by a washington state judge who's overreaching and letting his own personal politics get in the way of being unbiased and professional in his position.

He's berating the guy on twitter because he's not doing his job correctly.

Of course you don't know any of this because you're not actually an American and you're too stupid to realize it hasn't even made it to SCOTUS yet, it's stalled at the 9th circuit.

By all means keep pretending you know shit on the other side of the planet, idiot.

>>721955917

Nice!!!

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>>721947090
yea it does protect freedom of religion. this is not a ban on muslims, its simply a 90 day moratorium from people coming from 5 different countries that are primarily war torn from sharia rule. Oh and those countries that are being vetted, Obama chose them under his office

>>721945637
>radical terrorism is virtually non existent in the U.S.

Ever hear of an organization called The Ku Klux Klan?

Why don't we ban guns?
Ever read the writings of Thomas Jefferson?

Guns don't kill people PEOPLE kill people.

If you ban guns then people will just find another way to kill other people.

Guns aren't the problem. People's mental instability attitudes and behavior are the problem.

>>721955917
Keyboard cheap off-brand that was probably made here to be sold over there under another company name probably stationed in Africa as a shell Corp with a phone answering the call if it wasn't a bulk order from Russia or China

>>721945637
>radical terrorism nonexistent in the USA
>Black Lives Matter thugs on the news almost weekly committing forms of terroristic crimes.

>>721955936
Again, you're pushing the issue aside like killing babies isn't universally wrong. Sure, life is precious, but an innocent human being (zygote whatever the fuck you want to call it) shouldn't have to deal with the consequences of their parent(s) being absolutely irresponsible jackasses. It's selfish and amoral.

It's not fud. You can't try and say muslims don't follow sharia law when they literally have self-formed ghettos in europe where they DO follow it. Comparing Christianity to Islam in 2017 is a clear cop-out by some brainwashed dipshit who doesn't personally know many people of either faith and has likely never even bothered to read the Koran but you want to talk like you have some kind of knowledge on the subject.

You just sound like a whiney bitch, honestly, and you're speaking for all people now who, according to you, don't want anything to do with any faith or ideology? Sure, kid. You don't sound 12 or anything.

>>721956150
>radical terrorism is virtually non existent in the U.S.

Or just about every liberal at an anti-Trump protest.
terrorism
[ter-uh-riz-uh m]
noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

>>721956348
KKK Southern Baptist Nazis radical religion that believes that everything was created and we can't in it and it's only been 10 thousand years

>>721956461
But they don't buy guns from America

>>721956461

Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization.

>>721956075

It's not stalled you fuckwit, they've made a decision and upheld the previous restraining order on it.

Get a grip on your own news, cuntlord spergwhalloper.

>>721945637
>ban guns
I don't need a gun to kill somebody.
And when I know you don't have one it's easy, because you can always get guns.

You ban drugs, still plenty of drugs around.
You ban guns, still plenty of guns around.

Idk. You seem like the retard.
Probably should go outside to inform yourself about the people you talk about using oppinions and arguments that you have picked up from media.

Sleep tight, pupper.

>>721956251
Totally non-equivalent.

You are just scared of black people. And you probably should be you racist asshole.

>>721956507
It's been "stayed" which means they literally didn't make a decision in the 9th circuit, they just let the previous decision ride (lack of intervention) and it's now on it's way to SCOTUS. The 9th circuit does the same thing multiple dozens of times in a year. Maybe learn how the fuck the judiciary in the US works before you talk like you know what's going on.

>>721956319
Both of your religions are bat-shit insane.

>>721956505
But you don't know the definition of a false flag operation anyone can look like a villain if it got a flag in the background someone can lie about Americans and say that we uncultured uncivilized isn't that the same thing that we said to the Mayans Aztecs that built so many massive structures to prove that they were cultured and civilized but we didn't decide to learning the language and other tribes within the United States oh wait you didn't look at your textbook or watch a movie or watch a documentary or try to learn from any other method that your parents that your priest didn't tell you

>>721956631
>I disagree with this so it's wrong.
How did you arrive at that conclusion, anon?

>>721956696
Are you comparing Aztec pyramids to BLM retards? You for real right now? You obviously never been to the US and met our blacks.

>>721956853
He's probably one of our blacks tbh.

>>721956789
Stupid people incest whether you're black White asian Hispanic your religion does not matter what matters is your actions towards others and how they may be perceived honesty is the best currency not loyalty being loyal to humanity does not mean being a loyal to a god it means telling the truth no matter how many people try to pay you not to tell the truth and fight for it if someone tries to disinformation if it's done through violence sometimes you have to because they're killing you so fight back not just with your words but with fact by showing him the evidence because no one wins in the end if I had a war games photo at post it

>>721956687
You've got no argument. We both know it's a false equivalency based on most any metric you can come up with. Keep your head in the sand, kid.

>>721956853
South America North America Central America United States is only to the current area when we consider ourselves to be North Americans of the United States of America keyword only United States that includes New Mexico in North America and Canada so quit your bitchin I was referring to All America

>>721945637
Islam statistically has a unique problem connected to it, and that problem is terrorism.

>But muh KKK
The KKK isnt religious and isnt the problem right now

>But muh Westboro Baptist
Westboro Baptist didnt kill 3000 people in 9/11.

>But small radical minority
A small percentage believe in the justification for suicide bombings, but really large majorities believe in things like honor killings and killing gays.

>>721949325
"Wrong."
-Trump circa 2016

It isnt treating any religion any better or worse than others. Its not a ban on Muslims, its a ban on 7 muslim-majority countries, and not even the largest populations of Muslims. Notice how nobody is fearful of Indian Muslims or Indonesian Muslims.

It also prioritizes refugee status for people that are religiously persecuted in those countries, which does mean Christians, and it would also mean Jews, if Jews weren't already banned from those countries.

>>721957000
Um....you realize we're talking about BLM and not religion, right? So why are you talking about something other than what we're talking about?

>>721946784
That's a dumb argument, guns were literally invented to kill people. To say "guns don't kill people" is autistic and you should be sterilised so you don't procreate any more of that autism. Bad anon.

>>721957089
Yes it is they're saying them on the religion that isn't theirs is bad with inside the means of our own government 9/11 was a con end of discussion we don't know who was behind it that is our goal what do you say that it was a man of a certain religion that destroyed the building I say it was a man looking the profit from war that destroyed the building

>>721947195
Edgelord detected weeeeewww

>>721957164
oh boy you dun fucked up and gone full-tinfoil now

>>721949350
We actually dont know the motive behind the shooting, and there are reports that indicate that he has severe mental issues he was receiving treatment for.

>>721949475
Nobody is saying Islam is responsible for all terror, simply that radical Islam is used as the basis for many terror acts and crimes against humanity. Islam needs a reformation, and its hard to get a reformation when religious leaders aren't even willing to denounce these terrorists.

>>721945637

It's not at ban.

>>721949796
Right to not have to quarter soldiers bitch.

Its easy to remember because its the least important one

>>721957297
>least important one
>says that before he's forced to share his home with soldiers in an upcoming war and has the watch them gangbang his elderly mother every night in front of him

>>721947087
It's unconstitutional. That's not the Constitution, it's the US Code of Laws. The Constitution trumps it. Nice try, though.

>>721957230
But I believe the numbers the numbers don't lie I look 4 gains the most end of discussion

>>721957164
And then they kept seeking profit from shooting 49 in Orlando, killing 4 in Benghazi AFTER the "profitable war", killing 4 in Boston, killing 14 in San Bernandino, and then bombings around the country and smaller acts of violence against people?

Read the order. It prioritizes people that are being religiously persecuted, not simply people that arent the majority.

>>721957387
Least important doesnt mean worthless. Its simply the least important because it doesnt happen these days.

The true worthless amendment is the 18th

>>721957409
When did foreigners become protected under the United States Constitution and receive the same rights as citizens?

>>721950592
Why are you quoting "refugees?" Terrorist come in on school, work, or tourist visas because the vetting process is more lenient.

>>721957409
How is it unconstitutional?

Also, learn how laws work

>>721957411
In the words of George Carlin they try to distract us from our similarities by making us focus on our differences so the rich people can run away with all the fucking money

>>721953286
You're mom is an alternate fact. Fake nigger

>>721957536
In the words of Trump:

"Wrong."

>>721947421
Trump is working with saudi arabia to fight terrorism. ban would hurt relations

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How does it feel Trump chumps? Your pussy of a champion just bowed down like a bitch on the One China policy.

>>721953286
Theres more to a country or economy than job growth

>>721957603
even though the majority of 9/11 hijackers were Saudi and the rise of ISIS was funded by the Saudis.

Keep sucking that spray-tanned cock

>>721954030
Gold bullion to the Japanese

>>721955870
You're just too blind to the problems we went through for the last 8 years. Liberalism is an illness

>>721957603
This is true. After he signed the order Trump had a call with Saudi Arabia, a country whose prince he openly mocked, and then they agreed to fund more safe camps in their own country.

>>721957651
So we could keep paying for their oil
Accidentally attack civilians to turn them into radicals to make them fight us so we could keep spending more money on oil and so the con

I hope Trump some how can get 3 terms in office so that all the virtue signaling whining CUCK cunts shut the fuck up.

>>721957651
>9/11
>2001
>nearly 20 years ago

>Ohio State University terrorist attack
>4 months ago
>Somali muslim immigrant

Keep trying to act like your argument holds water, kid.

>>721956507
It won't matter what the ninth circus says once it gets to the supreme Court. Where they actually have to do their job. These judges in SF were typical liberal garbage. They will get what's coming to them via disbanding them

>>721957651
The Rise of ISIS was also helped by Obama ignoring it and pulling out of Iraq. Also: Islamic State in Syria. I wonder what country they're in.

>But its not Obamas fault for making ISIS big Bush got us out of Iraq.
Obama could have stopped it. If Obama wants to take credit for getting out of Iraq, he has to accept all of the consequences attached./

>>721957779
lol did you just draw a comparison between the deadliest terrorist attack ever and one in which only the bad guy died?

>>721957759
I hope he gets 3 terms so they keep whining. 2017 has been a great year so far.

>>721957788
Court is split m8ty.

Gorsuch will be purposefully obstructed to stop him from tipping the scales.

>>721945637
Inbreeding.

>>721957799
oh let's dig into that faggot. Where did ISIS start? Iraq. What did they start as? Al Qaeda in Iraq. Why could they start in Iraq I wonder?

Because you fucking retarded conservatives just can't help but start retarded wars.

>hurrrr Obama why didn't you stop the train wreck after we cut the brakes

>>721957799
Obama armed them. That's kinda on him.

>>721957834
Popcorn has to be a big sell for 2017 cuz this shit is better than the shit Hollywood is selling everyone.

>>721957886
ISIS splintered off of Al Qaeda. Also, Iraq is on the ban list. The main difference is that AQ hides among civilians so any attack on them results in civilian deaths that they use to fuel opposition to America. ISIS formed its own caliphate that needs to be destroyed to undermine their recruitment efforts.

Yes, Obama, why didnt you do anything? Why did you skip intelligence briefings on the rise of ISIS so that you could feign ignorance for your re-election? Why didnt you stop a power vacuum from forming that let ISIS get powerful?

>>721957997
Popcorn was always a big sell. Keemstar buys metric tonnes of it for every video.

>>721958070
>any attack on them results in civilian deaths
it's okay, Obama had his drones do it so it's fine. Just as long as it's not soldiers on the ground killing civilians, everything is just peachy, remember that anon.

>>721958116
LEEEEETS GET ROIIIIIIGHT INTO THE NOOOOOOSE.

>>721957816
Both terrorist attacks, numb nuts. How fucking stupid are you exactly?

>>721958070
ISIS would not exist without the fuckups of you conservative retards so don't pretend to have any good ideas on the subject feggit.

>>721958252
Country A sends 15 terrorists that kill thousands, while Country B sends one maybe-terrorist who kills nobody.

Le's ban Country B, said the retarded Trumpista

>>721958258
we wouldn't be dealing with Islamic extremism if it wasn't for the interventionist policies of both parties you dumb fuck.

>>721958258
ISIS exists precisely because Obama pulled the troops out of Iraq too early in 2012 and created a massive power vacuum because he couldn't wait to take credit for "ending wars" or some dumb shit. Stop trying to rewrite history, kid. It's common fucking knowledge.

>>721958199
Well actually there was a counter terrorism operation in Yemen conducted by Mattis. Civilians died because Al Qaeda hides with civvies and uses agressive moves that are met with powerful measures that result in collateral deaths.

However, Anwar Al-Awlaki's 8-year-old (read:sexually mature) was one of the civvies, so...

>>721958317
BULL
SHIT
The Iraq war was championed by Bush and Cheney and they suckered democrats into supporting it with LIES about WMDs that were never found.

>>721958339
Look up the Iraq Status of Forces Agreement and realize it ain't Obama's fault YOU STUPID FUCK

>>721958258
What did we do exactly? ISIS formed under Obama's years. If you're talking the Iraq war, that was justified. Saddam had WMD's.

>Saddam didnt have WMDs
Then where did Syria acquire their WMD's from?

If you're talking the war in Libya, that was Hillary's war. So, Obama.

>>721958310
First, it as 9 saudis, not 15. Second it happened 20 years ago. Third they're an official NATO ally. Fourth, they linked an entire branch of their intelligence resources to the NSA directly after 9/11 to better track, stop, and apprehend would-be terrorists.

But sure, keep trying to compare them to places like Yemen and Somali that literally don't have functioning fucking governments at all. You don't sound like a massive idiot, really.

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>>721958339
"Agreement
Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq
On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the
Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in
Iraq"

Signed in 2008 by...Obama? NO WAIT! It was Bush

>>721958357
So Bush and Cheney are responsible for turning Libya into the shithole it is now too, right? Neither party is innocent in this. They're both complicit and the "side" you're on is the same side you think you're against.

>>721958428
Yes, as a result of the retarded Iraq war. Bush owns the creation of ISIS far more than Obama.

And there were no WMDs, and there's no way a SUNNI state like Iraq would give them to a SHIA state like Syria.

You're just flailing kiddo, but I actually understand the subject matter.

>>721958310
Obama's team selected the countries for the list. Trump simply used the list.

>>721958357
>suckered democrats
>democrats had all of the intelligence that was available to the President before making a decision
top kek. take your L and move on

>>721958458
no it was 15 of them and if you can't get such a basic fact correct you need to sit down and shut up.

>>721958357
Are you literally retarded?

"The left has now conveniently changed to saying that no NEW WMDs were found. As if the “old” chemical weapons that were found couldn't have been put into the wrong hands by Saddam and used in a terrorist attack. The bottom line is: Weapons of mass destruction WERE found in Iraq."

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/bombshell-new-york-times-reports-wmds-found-iraq/

Educate yourself, kid, you're sounding real fucking stupid right now.

>>721958477
oh but one party is far more guilty. don't draw false equivalencies.

>>721958507
Saddam used wmds against the Iranians you idiot.

Mustard gas is a wmd

>>721958515
and that's a big fucking difference as far as the constitution is concerned

oh wait you dumb fucks thinks that document beings and ends with the 2nd amendment

>>721958564
and that intelligence was doctored and selectively presented since the release of the downing st. memo. You should read it shill and start to think for yourself rather than be so easily manipulated.

>>721958637
Nice strawman. I dont know what a strawman is doing on a message board, but at least it scared the crows away.

What part of the constitution is being violated and how?

>>721958593
but not the ones that were a pretense for the war you dumb shit for brains

>>721958632
but we never found them in our invasion you idiot

>>721956348
BLM is another terrorist organization

>>721958689
You're the only shill here. You're literally shilling for one side because you think they're somehow better when they've both got a lot of blood on their hands.

>>721958707
according to the courts (2 of them) due process

>>721958609
Don't pretend that both neoconservatives and neoliberals aren't the biggest pieces of shit on earth.

>>721958764
So if I shoot someone and then hide the gun that means I never had a gun and never shot anyone?

>>721958787
>how
>implying entry into the country is a right

rights arent entitlements. No one is entitled to entry into the country.

>>721958764
We never found any Sarin gas either but it's commonly known and undisputed that Saddam did in fact use Sarin gas on the Kurds.