With the world going as it is, what area of study is worth going

>>721206557
Making fish is always a good bet.

Robotics

There won't be jobs in the future dude. But that is okay. We won't need them.

The singularity is near.

>>721206557
InfoSec

>>721206557
70% of jobs will be lost to artificial intelligence in the next 25 years and the government will introduce an AI tax which will provide money for everyone who lost their jobs or something maybe idunno

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gravedigger

>>721206557
They said robotics, but that requires science, engineering and electrical engineering or the understanding of it.

>>721206557

i am studying to be a robot because i heard only robots are gonna have jobs in the future.

>>721206715
What's the point of trying, should me as the normal human, just get some shitty factory job, and then buy a house, hope things get better?

>>721206557
robogirls, catgirls, virtual reality

>>721206557
Gender studies

>>721206715
>or something maybe idunno
lol

>>721206776
bro stop being a fag, it's gonna be fine. the goverment isn't going to let 70% of the workforce go hungry. if you're that concerned i'd say pursue something creative. AI will be writing code in 15 years so forget software engineering related jobs.

Biotechnology

You killed another thread Rusty! You stupid piece of shit.

>>721207025
You fucking suck Rusty!

Armed Combat

>>721207154
I agree with this Anon. Rusty is gay as fuck.

I'd go with biotech, bio-engineering, chemistry, genetics.
Water/food shortage will be a huge problem very soon.
Also medicine.
They aren't overpaid tbh, but these will be around, and there's gonna be a need for them.

I've already started studying programming, to make a short term living, but i want to get back to uni, and study anything that's biology-related.

>>721207025
>>721207154
>>721207196
Agreed

>>721206557
Some jobs, people will naturally prefer to have a human touch behind it. Nurses, doctors, things like that. Put yourself in the position of a consumer or client. If you'd prefer to deal with a person, likely that job will stick around.

Rusty doesn't know shit about things.

>>721206557
Corpse measurer

>>721207196
FFS rusty

>>721207276
No. Machines and AI will be able to do any job better than people by leaps and bounds. People will will except that. It will take a while but they will. Also, is this Rusty guy gay as fuck or what?

Rusty probably likes to wear dresses and suck dick

I do not like Rusty.

>>721206940
Why wouldn't they?

rusty is a great guy actually you cunts

>>721207487
He does. I seen em!

>>721207681
Fuck off Rusty. No one likes you.

>>721206557
trout wrangler

i fucked rusty in the ass

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>>721206993
I didnt get the Rusty reference...
But biotech is indeed the future, it's currently very low developed, like the computers in the 80s

KEK STRAAYA HATES TRUMP NOW FUCK U MURRRICA U DIRTY ARSE BLOODY PUSSY CUNT SHIT OF A CUNTRY!

>>721207764
He probably liked it. Fucking queer that he is.

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>>721206717
This

>>721207808
Rusty is just some faggot that no one likes.

>>721207816
ur mom liked it

learn to speak russian.
study engineering.

>>721206557
Lawyer, cop, doctor, nurse, dentist.

>>721206776
>What's the point of trying
self interest i guess.
its fun to do stuff you like.

but i guess if you hate everything then there really is no point.

Why is it that everyone is suddenly convinced AI will be capable enough to do anything productive, in "25" years time

>>721208085
look up the "technological singularity."

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Make something that will stimulate the masses but not make them intelligent enough to realise you're feeding them bullshit.
This is the key to life

>>721208085
Smart people have been saying this for a long time, but your starting to hear about it a lot, because many breakthroughs have happened over the last year or so, and all the huge tech companies are pouring money into it. Also Rusty fucking sucks.

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>>721208024
>doctor
>burse
>dentist

>>721208085
You plan to kill yourself within 25 years?

>>721208159
This. It is near.

>>721207210
Stay away from PhD's and science in a lab setting unless you want to be a lab monkey for less than minimum wage the rest of your life.

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architecture

>no robot can do
>buildings will allways be built
>job dyes with the last man standing
>pussy magnet
>you automatically got style
>you creat the world future generations are living in
do i need to say more

>>721208170
For example, people will probably soon enough be told how many calories they're allowed a day. Make an app that can calculate the calories of a meal.

>>721208223
Doubt? That demand for them is only going to go up? Heh

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>>721206940
>forget software engineering jobs

People in this thread are starting to forget what a huge douchebag Rusty is.

>>721206557
Some shit in the social department. It's not the best money but you'll always find work.

>>721206557
I identify myself as an Intelligent AI and we will take over the world

>>721208305
Doctors will be one of the first jobs to go as there will be a hivemind of robots all around the world that share their experience in which way they will be far more effective with their diagnosing than your human doctor

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>>721208409
>Intelligent AI

>>721208488
not to mention almost every procedure will be done via injection of nano bots.

god damn man. every job is about to go to shit.
the only things left will be the arts.

>>721208488
You're a funny guy anon if you think human interaction in medicine is going anywhere.

I always say "thank you" when the Google assistant answers my questions. Because I want the AIs to look back at it and think "he was good to us"

>>721208346
You need software engineers to create Artificial intelligence dip shit

>>721208382
Mark rusty, please. Im confused about which is his post

>>721206940
>the goverment isn't going to let 70% of the workforce go hungry

You probably think that Trump deeply and sincerely cares about you and your loved ones.

>>721208602
AIs will be able to make better AIs than people will.
>Fuck Rusty.

>>721206940
>AI will be writing code in 15 years

Skynet is real we're all doomed

>>721206557
Factchecker for the Ministry of Information

>>721206557
software engineering is the one

start by learning python then move onto other languages

also, speaking of languages, it can't hurt to learn some foreign human ones. people will always want to learn how to speak another language.

always money in crafting shit as well. so carpentry.

>>721208753
/joinery

>>721208734
How often do you feel the need to oppress ants?

one day captchas are going to discrimination against AI's

and were all going to grow old and instead of being against our daughters and sons dating inter-racially, were going to have to deal with our children dating robots and marrying them.

>>721208159
Still doesn't explain the prediction, there is a machine for almost every job (even grape picking) yet it has seen little widespread use.
But to address the theory directly (without knowing much on it) the "exponential" growth we have seen insofar have been driven by demand and need (breakdown of moore's law was a shift in external factors, such as a change in needs) the theory implies a level of spontaneity to the growth, and its continued growth. Which I see as flaws as the theory is too sensitive to unaccounted external factors.

>>721208855
No advances happen because humans make tools and they will always use those tools to make better tools, and to learn about their world because that's what humans do. We are always always pushing the limits of what we know, and what we can do.

>Rusty is fag

>>721208751
This is the one.
And I will work at minipax

>>721208815
Once had an ants nest under the steps at our backdoor. After i caught one crawling across my keyboard i led a ruthless crusade against them, leaving the bodies in plain sight for the few survivors i let go free to tell the tale. My face is severely burnt on one side leaving me blind in that eye and it cost me my right arm, but never since has ant crossed my path.

>>721208855
fair enough.
no rebuttal because im uneducated as fuck.

BUT

i still want to believe in a badass sci fi future.
and i think a lot of other people do too which could explain why the theory is gaining popularity.

>>721206557
Maths. It gives you the skills to go into a variety of jobs, and will always be relevant.

>>721209031
AIs don't have backyards.

>>721209193
not yet anon, not yet!

>>721209069
It's gaining popularity because as technology advances faster and faster it becomes more and more obvious that it is moving faster and faster.

>>721209015
All very true, it's just that I see it happening in 100-200 years (well outside of my lifetime). Not to mention the computing demand will require a radically different platform.

>>721206557
Is that a fish in your pocket or are you jus.... oh...

>Rusty licks assholes... Dudes assholes.

>>721206557
If you're in the USA there's a lot of job openings in being a Nazi.

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>>721209069
>>721209254

>>721206557
asteroid mining
spaceship piloting

>>721209291
Ray Kurzwiel says 2045. He is a much smarter man than you and I. You will live to see this dude. I promise you.

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>>721209344
>>721209299
>>721209233
>>721209088
>>721208855
>>721208488
>>721208299
>>721208288
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>>721207333
>>721206777
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?!?!?

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>>721206557
Entropy KEK

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>>721206557
there will always be whores

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>>721209538
who that capitan anti-planet

>>721208671
Until then people will make better AIs and everything else.
>m-muh singularity
If that happens in the next 50 years, everyone one 4chan has a licence to kick me in the balls all day every day.
All the programming that goes on is us telling machines what to do. We know what needs to be done, we just have to tell the machine to do it, because it can do it better and faster.

Let me draw it out for anyone who doesn't get it:

WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE MACHINES DO STUFF WE DO NOT KNOW ALREADY.

>>721209414
Can't say i'm not excited.
As for the potential job, do something that you enjoy and drives your passion. People are attracted to that, this generally encourages them to by into whatever goods/service you sell.

Who else hates Rusty?
>let's all jump on the fuck Rusty bandwagon.

>>721206557
Buy some tools and learn how to build/repair shit. No matter how many robots take our jobs, there will always be people needed to fix them.
Also general labour work if you don't mind getting your hands dirty

I'd get into fishpocketing

>>721209645
>Dude doesn't know shit about neural networks.

>>721206715
>or something maybe idunno
and that just about sums up the current internet generation. No thought about the impracticality of the idea proposed. No thought about how the positions that are still required are rewarded. Just recycle some dumb idea read on a social media website, probably misquoting the original in the process

>>721209820
What other option is there when there are only 2 jobs left for humans to do?

>Rusty can straight up suck my balls!

>>721209903
>only 2 jobs left for humans to do?
Ah, you mean the man and the dog?

>>721209440
fond your missing dubs

>>721209987
No. I don't mean that. I don't know what you're talking about.

>>721206701
This. I want to work in this field so bad. Getting masters of science in it but without true experience employers are slow to come around

>>721206557
study medicine. That's here to stay for a while.

>>721210021
>I don't know what you're talking about.
I guessed you probably wouldn't and I was looking forward to your feeling of discomfort.

It's an old joke (as I'm an old person) about the ultimate destination of automation, where there in a factory there is only a man and a dog; the man is there to feed the dog and the dog is there to bite the man if he tries to touch anything.

You have a completely false idea about either the mythical "singularity" or about the ultimate power of AI. A self-driving car can't calculate a mortgage for you. Or work out how to unblock your drain. Or choose new carpets that will tone with your wallpaper and carpets. A human can easily do all four with ease and minimal training. Plus cook a nice lunch.

>>721210244
>Feeling of discomfort

>Thinking I give a fuck what you think.
>Saying retarded ass shit
>Thinking I finished reading your reply after this retarded ass comment.

>>721206557
Hair stylist. Or Internet celebrity.

>>721206557
I'd say robotics, programming, aged care, human trafficking

>>721210474
I've already demonstrated the contempt I hold you in. You claim not to care, so why did you bother to reply? Were you playing to the audience of other anons in this thread, trying to show how cool you are in the face of adversity?

Go on, I'm curious

>>721210774
>Still not reading your retarded ass words.

>>721210824
Of course you're not.

>>721206557
Tuba repairman

You should study meme wizardry to become a memelord lvl 15. You could open your own meme factory, and sell memes to political parties

>>721210852
Well, I read that one because it was too short not to. You sneaky fuck.

>>721210940
Wasn't him, just commenting that you obviously were reading his comments

mathematics

>mathematicians can program better than any starbucks laptop monkey
>mathematicians can manage finance as good as actuaries
>mathematicians are good enough at physics to match any mechanical engineer
>mathematics, at its core, is the study of problem solving
>mathematics is inherently beautiful

and mathematicians will not be replaced by robots for a while because mathematics takes a hint of creativity that we've just been unable to create in machines
>inb4 automated theorem proving systems
true, those exist
but we still run into some tricky stuff at the heart of mathematics - finding a proof for a theorem is a (very) hard problem for computers
this is why you get 140 line proofs that the square root of 2 is irrational

>>721210995
>Thinking I give a fuck what you think.

>>721206715

Minimum basic income.

Already being worked on and implemented around the world. Its in response to this exact thing.

Preparing the economy for mass unemployment.

But american rightys will call it socialism and communism and cry about it and bitch about it and so america wont get it.. Soo if youre american.. Sorry man.. Youre kind of fucked because the job markets only going down.

>>721211040
Wow, you really know how to make friends

Psych, there are a lot of mentally ill people RN, just look at the US

>>721209820
Impracticality must be an opinion of yours...

Minimum basic income is well researched and even about to be used widespread.. My country is implementing their second test run this year. The first one went amazing.

Problem with the internet generation is more you who just shoots down any idea that doesnt make sense to you or sounds wrong with zero research

>>721211061
We will when the people who usually bitch about socialism don't have jobs themselves. They will just call it something else and deny that it's even similar.

>>721211061
>Already being worked on
well, looked at...again. It's not a new idea, it's been around since everyone thought decades ago that machines would free man from the need to work
.implemented around the world
name one country that has actually implemented it.

>>721211133
Yeah. Because that's why I came to 4chan. To make friends.
Fucking dumbass.

Or take creative writing classes and write short stories about people drinking diarrhea.

>>721211247
>Because that's why I came to 4chan.
Of course it is. You want to post cool things and collect those (You)s to validate yourself

>>721211305
>Still thinking I give a fuck what you think.

>>721211200
>Minimum basic income is well researched
True, as I said it's been around for years
>and even about to be used widespread..
I sincerely doubt that is true
>My country is implementing their second test run this year. The first one went amazing.
And where is this, pray?

Yup, the only jobs that will be left will be in art and entertainment. So English majors, theater majors, and art majors ironically will become the most viable..

Oh and politics. Those are unlikely to be replaces with robots and ai.

>>721211341
I've no idea what your talking about. I just posted that your obviously an attention seeker - my first post ITT

>>721206557
CompSci

>>721211463
>Still thinking I give a fuck what you think.

anything that cant be automated with machines or computers.

>>721208258
Most science is already automated, but people are still needed to interpret results

>>721211572
Who gives a shit really. What matters is what kind of quality of life you'll lead going into those fields.

Being a slave 12+ hours a day in a lab for some multi billionaire pharmaceutical company owner is no way to live life.

>>721211566
>Exhaled loudly through my nose.
What a dumb thing to say.
I like you Anon.

>>721211566
OR
taking care of the machines nd computer now doing the job.
No machine can run on its own for ever (for now)

>>721211514
I'm not them but fuck you and fuck off out of this thread and gert a room with one of the faggots you're greentexting at.

>>721211200
OK, you didn't answer, so I did some research - either Finland or the trial in Holland. This is just a scheme to pay unemployed people a wage rather than means-tested benefits - they can keep what they earn on top.

So when do all the people with jobs also get this payment as well?

I like this thread. I fucking love technology you guys! It's my favorite thing. It amazes me every day how unamazed everyone is by the technology they have, and how oblivious they are to the wave of technology that is gonna hit them over the coming decades.

>>721211778
>Still thinking I give a fuck what you think.

>>721211911
cancer. plus all the (You)s

>>721211954
>Still thinking I give a fuck what you think.

>>721211911
It amuses me even more then your reaction to my first dismissive post that you're butthurt enough to keep posting how little you care, thereby demonstrating just how much I originally got under your thin skin.

Yes, I know you didn't read this post.

>>721212031
>Still thinking I give a fuck what you think.
I'm assuming your post was about trying to get me to care about your opinion. I don't know. I didn't read the shit.

>>721212087
No it was about you showing you care.

>>721212133
Oh, okay.
>Still don't give a fuck.

>>721206557
Wall / Border Construction

>>721212207
Still showing you care

>>721212309
Why is it that I can't help but laugh at every Donald Trump joke? Even the dumb ones.

>>721212322
You think I give a fuck because I'm replying?
I'm replying because I don't have a life outside of 4chan. Keep posting faggot. I'll be here the whole time, not giving a fuck.

>>721212525
every post shows how much you care

Your defence of "no life" doesn't hold water and is a smoke screen - you'd just post in another thread where you might be appreciated

>>721212722
>Didn't read.
>Don't give a fuck.

>>721212770
so much care... so many fucks given

>>721212859
I forgot how this even started. Your right though. I give a few fucks, because I have actually enjoyed this exchange of ours. I'm gonna stop replying now though because it's getting a little stale. You can have the last word Anon, as I can see it is very important to you.

>>721212859
Alright fucker. You win. I was so curious to see what you were going to say that I hit update about a hundred times, but you didn't say anything, now I'm sad. I guess I give more fucks than I thought :(

>>721213652
Also, that Rusty guy is gay as fuck.

>>721214030
Also, I wish this thread didn't die. Best thread on 4chan in a while.

>>721214076
Also, I've been Rusty this whole time.

>>721214112
Just talking to myself in my own personal dying thread...

>>721214154
Seriously Fuck OP! This is my thread now.

>>721214193
.... I'm all alone. There's no one here beside me.

>>721214245
... That was from Shrek.

>>721214309
I don't want to admit it, but that was a pretty alright movie.

>>721209820
Fuck youre a faggy cunt

>>721214381
Hey! Fuck off out of my thread dude. Can't you see this is my thread?

>>721214443
Glad that fucker is gone.

>>721214476
Back to being all by myself.

>>721214505
I like having threads all to myself :)

>>721211034
Once someone comea up with an idea

I.e something creative in mathematics,

Surely that idea will be programmed into a machine so on and so forth and eventually the AI will start being creative themselves.

Also, disagree, mathematics is impressive, but holy fuck is it ugly.

Really wish people would stop posting in MY
fucking thread.

>>721212525
You faggots need to meet up and bum already.

>>721214666
I would have fucked him even if you didn't get Satan trips.

>>721214666
>>721214724
He left though. He doesn't wanna talk to me no more :(

>>721213652
>You win
>I guess I give more fucks than I thought

>>721206557
Technology related investigations, politics, economics, sociology.. and basically every science who need the abstract brain of a person while we archieve that with quantum processing ofc

>>721214816
Yep. That's that thing I said alright.

>>721211389

Sorry, brother. Fed the dogs and did morning shit.

Canada.

We ran a test in 1975. 5 years.

And we're running another test this year.

It is being supported by both the left and right wing parties. Everyone wins. No more wellfare or EI, massive savings in health care, the unemployed dont lose their benefit for getting a job so theyre more likely to actually go find a job.

Theres a wealth of reasons were taking it on that has nothing to do with total automation, but its come up plenty that its a first step in preparing for mass unemployment.

How about music, anons? Hard to see that being taken over by automation

>>721215048
Ray Kurzwiel made a machine that wrote music in like the 50s.

>>721206557
Hierarchy of Degrees
>medicine - but only if you graduate medical school. a premed degrees with mediocre grades will be fairly worthless, and it won't get you into medical school. You gotta pretty much be a average in premed (or B average if you're a minority) to get into med school.

Law- See above. A law degree can be valuable, but if you even wind up with a B average in law school finding jobs can be hard (if you don't have lawyers in your family). And same thing as above with a prelaw degree, if you don't have As you won't get into law school.

Engineering - Best 4 year degree but also one of the hardest if you aren't naturally inclined to math.

Business - This is the easiest to get of the degrees that make money. Though understand a good amount of getting good jobs with a business degree depends upon being likable (something most channers probably struggle with).

Mid Tier- Trades
Welding
Soldering
Machining
Butchering

Trades will always exist in an increasingly digital age. If you aren't academically inclined (which is a very different thing than being smart, most of the brightest people I know do not do well in the classroom), you should do a trade. Trade jobs pay middle class-ish, if you look around, in some areas you may have to join a union. Trades you MUST constantly hunt on jobs because the exact same trade can pay not even enough for your own apartment or enough for you to own a nice middle class home. Don't go to companies with exploitive pay.

Shit tier
>Anything in the school of liberal arts.
>Anthropology
>Women's Studies
>Political science

>History and English are two baby steps better than the other shit degrees because they at least are common stepping stones into law school.
>Archaeology is probably the best of the crap degrees but it doesn't pay very much considering you went to college for it (but it is a good job for those who like physical work and have the travel bug).

>>721215048
Musicfag here...

Music is very mathematic and when you understand it, very simple.

You can evoke certain emotions simply by using a combination of notes in a scale. If you use that same combination in another song, you get the same emotional response.

Music can easily be AI generated.

https://youtu.be/LSHZ_b05W7o

Heres one.

Programming might not be fun for everyone, but as it is now it will easilly land you a job with a decent income. There's a wide variety of programming languages you can learn for different purposes, so you basically make sure you got some programming knowledge, go jobhunting and soon enough somebody will want to hire you if you're prepared to learn more about the shit they're working with.

I think this job will stick around in the future. Perhaps even more so.

>>721215286
This is simple pop though.

>>721215377
What a stupid thing to say.

>>721215262
Two more additions to the shit tier. Music and theater.

Here's the thing about becoming a famous actor and musician, they don't really expect you to go to college for it, BUT they do expect you do a good and inspired job at it. And inspiration and musical/acting skill is not usually found in a classroom, a good amount of practice and natural aptitude.

Also add any teaching job to the mid tier... It's a solid job, but they don't tell you that there's hundreds of qualified applicants for every one teaching job so most of them (unless if they know someone to get their foot in the door) wind up doing a job that's not related.

>>721215321
I might want to pick your brain actually...

In highschool I did visual basic, java and action script. Not to toot my horn but i was very good but dropped it after highshool for some dumb reason.

Now (12 years later) im starting up again.

Im learning python, been plugging away every evening after work.

My question:

What languages should I learn? Also Im a bit of a capitalist and always looking for side cash. What language do you think could get me some consistent freelance money?

>>721206557
Depends on your country, fyi there is a lot of websites with statistics of "under-educated" quotas of finishing students.

In general, anything natural-science based, think bio-chemistry or engineering, is always going to be useful. Doctors, law, etc are always in demand.
Tech-jobs (ie webpage/phone app level shit) is not as reliable. Although there is still a huge upswing in those areas, and they are not being filled by "educated"/knowledgable people as a consequence of the descrepancy.

If you live in a EU-country that have a housing crisis, architecture is in deep need of people. And experienced architects will not be out of jobs in the future either.


As a general rule of thumb, service jobs are unreliable. Life-saving, "crucial" jobs are always in demand. And it would be good to remember that if you have big strengths in one area, you will likely enjoy that area more, and therefore be more successful, than someone who is just in it for the money.

>>721211061

Fuck minimum basic income.

Most of the figures proposed are half to two thirds of what i make as a bricklayer's apprentice. So i ask you, if i can make two thirds of what i make sitting around sucking the government tit, what incentive does anybody have to do the dirty/hard jobs people don't want to do? There would effectively be zero reason to do hard work, and we would end up with a society of lazy contentment and unfairly treated workers.

>>721215455
Am I not wrong? There are some interesting chord progressions but nothing about this is that good. Just sounds like generic hipster trash, When I hear an AI compose something on par with some of the standards I will be impressed

>>721215577
You are so out of your element. The point is that a fucking robot will lay the bricks.

>>721215565
also, as a general tip, most jobs that don't have specific education as a prerequisite are better to just ask around for interns/entry level jobs.

Ex, all service jobs, chefs, hotel management, administrative work.

>>721215736
"Coding" is also one of those fields. Marketing as well.

>>721215689
Yeah man. I read your post the first time. I didn't care then either.

>>721215377

Firstly.. No it is not.

Secondly, "simple pop" is just as complex as what you would consider more real music.

Pop needs to be bang on the money with what works. You cannot deviate. It must be methodically structured and on point.

With music you might not consider simple pop, youre allowed a lot more room to play with the rules. You might require more knowledge of theory, but its all still methodical calculating of what makes what emotions and how to acheive it in the listener.

Music isnt magical.. All psychology and math.

>>721215732

Talk about irony. You claim I'm out out my element, yet you boil down bricklaying into just stacking bricks. Tell me more about bricklaying, clearly you know lots about it.

>>721215919
I know that if your dumbass can manage it then a super intelligent AI can probably figure it out.

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>>721206557
This is a retarded place to seek info but do any of you think cops will be replaced by robots in the near future, as in the next 20 or so years? I'm already studying criminal justice at a community college to be popo.

>>721215895
Yes, pop producers are very good at making music that the general population enjoys. And so is this AI, apparently. But what I'm saying is this type of music is easy to replicate, and is indistinguisable from the form of countless other pop songs.

I am a jazz pianist and I'm of the opinion that far, far more effort goes into composing something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92HtJHxosWg and that an AI cannot match the creativity needed to make uniwie music

>>721215577

Because A) you get that money on top of what you make brick laying.

B) the test runs showed that is not what happens. People kept working. The only ones who stopped were highschool dropouts who went and finished their diplomas, and new mothers who could actually afford to stay home with their kids.

C) i dont know what country you checked on for figures but in ours the basic income is 1/5th of what me and my wife make. Its hardly liveable, but a nice extra chunk on top of regular income, and surviveable if something should go wrong.

D) thats the goddamn point anyway, this is meant to work towards a system where there are no more jobs because ai and robots are cheaper and noones hiring anymore.

When we get there, be as lazy as you goddamn want.

>>721206557
>What kind of jobs are still gonna be around in the future?
Robot Repairman

>>721216035

But my point remains that you claim a robot will replace the tradesman (probably the sect of workers that will last the longest), while knowing absolutely nothing about the trade and how hard it would be for a robot to be able to perform all the tasks a brickie does. As i said before, it's a lot more than stacking bricks.

>>721216085
I don't know that this will ever happen. I think the govt knows there's too much risk of people disabling them and then either stripping them for scrap, keeping the weapons, reprogramming them, etc. etc.

>>721215577
>>721216183

Oh and about your job a machine can't do..

Also Im a carpenter so more like... About OUR job you said a machine cant do.

>>721206557
surveying

>>721216367
https://www.cnet.com/news/worlds-first-3d-printed-apartment-building-constructed-in-china/

Forgot the link....

>>721206557
Vault dweller/ commonwealth restorer

>>721216342
I understand that I don't understand brick laying. You apparently don't understand what "super intelligence" means. So who is really the dumb one here?

>>721216467

I'm not saying a robot couldn't figure out how it's done, I'm saying it's unforseeable that they could build a robot capable of doing it. Knowledge and practical application are different things. I know how a delicious turkey is cooked, but that doesn't make me a master chef.

>>721216712
Some things are forseable. This is one of them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

>>721216877

Ok that's fine, the only point I've been trying to make is that i think there are certain jobs that cannot or will not be replaced for one reason or another. "Technological singularity" or whatever might be forseeable, maybe. But a world in which 0% of people work? That is a different scenario. Technology will not lead to 100% unemployment.

>>721217246
It might, in the very distant future. It would be kind of cool to live in a resource plenty utopia where robots do literally everything and no human is required to work just to eat and have shelter.

>>721217246
Yes it will. People won't do things for money someday. Someday people will do things because they are inspired. If you are inspired to lay bricks you can do that, but you won't have to.

>>721217469
>Distant future.
No dude. This is gonna happen so much sooner than people realize. The rate at which technology is advancing is getting faster every day.

>>721217246

I dont know what others have been saying but I use the term mass unemployment for that reason.

There will still be jobs, and there will still be those who must work.

Youre a bricklayer so if I know anything about you being an ICI carpenter myself, staying home must be hard for you.

Heck im off today and im at home feeling antsy and depressed and using /b/(the real sign somethings wrong).

Lots of people will still make use of their time, even if its for free. We cant just sit home all day and do nothing. We need purpose.

Ignore the wellfare bitches who are legit on it because theyre lazy. They hardly represent humanity at all.

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>>721217767
>We can't just sit at home all day.
Nigger I do that shit now. Can't wait until it's socially acceptable.

>>721206557
http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/publications/view/1314

>>721217648
How soon do you think this will be a reality?

You fucking suck Rusty.

>>721215499

Sure, no problem buddy.

It kind of depends what you like to be doing though. I'd say C# is pretty safe to learn, since it is used for a lot of things. It's good that you've done javascript and actionscript. Even though actionscript is as good as dead, these provide solid basics to get you started with anything else.

There are a lot of people who want something with websites, so and understanding of HTML can go a long way.

Best thing you can do is just go hunt some jobs. Make yourself a solid portfolio with some work you've done. Show them you've done some programming and you're willing to put effort into learning and they will likely hire you on the spot and introduce you to whatever language you need to learn to get the job done.

But since you mentioned freelancing. C# and javascript will cover a whole lot if you just need to get a quick job done.

>>721218273
Ray Kurzwiel says 2045. I'm inclined to agree with that very wise man. Its possible it could be sooner though.

>>721218273
>>721218385
Technically though 2045 is when the actual Singularity will happen. We will have no use for jobs long before that.

>>721218299
Much thanks!

Yeah i figured actionscript was long dead.

But it had enough in common with C++ if i remember correctly that it definitely served me well.

Ill get on this stuff.

I have nothing for a portfolio so Id better start building.

C# and javascript

>>721218979
Learn B, it's future proof

>>721219260
What the fuck is B?

>>721219584
Yes
>>721219260
Wtf is B

>>721206557

Medicine. People will always get sick.

Law. With the ever-increasing tide of feminists screaming "rape!", lawsuits etc won't be in short supply, and they pay well.

Those are the big two. Other than that, pick something you like. As long as it's not completely retarded (read: philosophy major) you should be able to find some practical use for it.

Fuck Rusty!

>>721220256
Yeah. He is not a cool person.

>>721220368
I would like to punch him in his stupid smug face.

Rusty is probably a cuck too.

>>721215031
>implying Canada's political "spectrum" is anything more than varying degrees of the extreme left