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Give me one reason why Andre 3000 is not the greatest hip hop

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Give me one reason why Andre 3000 is not the greatest hip hop artist of all time.

Pro Tip: YOU CANT
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>>720985145
Bigboy
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>>720985145

>he thinks niggers can create decent music
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>>720985145
J Dilla
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>>720985273
name me a better white rapper. Andre is miles ahead of Eminem.
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>>720985273
All of the music you like was invented by nihgras you are the Manhattan to the blacks brooklyn
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>>720985273
Looks like someone doesn't know music history
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Does it even matter why ? 3 stacks told me all this shit is fantasy anyway
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>>720985145
>cue basic nigger argument
He nay not be nearly the best, yet does better than anything autists on /b/ will ever produce.
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>>720985145
BIG L, all day
like eminem says: you take some big and some pac and mix them up in a pot now, sprinkle a little big L on top what the fuck do you got? you got the realest and illest killers tied up in a knot, the juggernauts of this rap shit - like it or not
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>>720985554

is this real history,or the history the blacks want you to believe(like we wuz kangs)
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>>720985416
This.

And Kwali,
cunninglinguist,
Gorilla Zoe.
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>>720985716

even autists can make better music then uneducated monkeys
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>>720985245
fucking lul
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>>720986070
>even history itself is a juden/nigger conspiracy
Come out the basement sometime.
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>>720985861
debatable. L is one of the dopest MC's, his word play and punchlines are some of the greatest but as an all around MC im not too sure.

>>720985145
Idk why but i cant get into andre 3000 or outkast. I have Aquemini and stankonia but the beats and his flow dont sound good to me. dre's a very talented MC but i cant fuck with the shit he puts out imo!
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>>720986167

i come out of my basement all the time,its not my fault the niggers and jews try to rewrite history into something it is not
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>>720985145
All that rap is just clicks and whistles.
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I do think so. Although I do wish he did more solo stuff.
Andre is legendary as a musician and as a hip-hop artist. Not too many like him.
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>>720985145
Alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright
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>>720985145
what has he done recently? im a fan circa 2005, but who is he now?
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>>720986364

>legendary as a musician

>uneducated nig nog

choose 1
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>>720986314
Jazz, Blues, and Rock N Roll can be pretty much totally attributed to African Americans. I would say that white people perfected rock n roll. Rap is a white thing, a the dope beats speed it up, and now you have hip hop, which is a black thing. Which came from Disco, another black thing that whites got really good at.
Give credit where credit is due. African Americans are amazing at music.
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>>720985145
because I can think of 3 better lyricists, 3 better producers, and 3 better writers, all off the top of my head right now..
that being said Andre is an OG though
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>>720986070
Retard tbh
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>>720986399
hip hop is over run with trappers and mumble rap so music like Andre's isn't exactly "hot" anymore sadly
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>>720985145
so you watched that youtube video that came out this week too?
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>>720986661
fuck bois dont get
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>>720986463
You can choose to be an edgy teenager on the internet, but it doesn't take away from the soul crushing sadness and loneliness you feel every morning when you wake up and go to school. Take this lesson from an older White guy, stop being a fag. Make friends, play sports, play an instrument, go to parties, talk to girls, join a team, do extra curricula, and do good in school. Stand up for the little guy, don't be a douche and life will be ok.
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>>720986708

outkast was never considered rap,they were hip hop
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>>720986721
know what Im sayyyyyyyin.
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>>720985145
Because
>tech n9ne
Thats why
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>>720985145
Coffee Black .. he don't wanna meet your daddy.. just want you to be his caddie..
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>>720986899
Dubs of truth
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>>720986782
hip hop and rap music are synonymous
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>>720986845
i was waiting for someone to post this. I literally spent the past two hours on rap genius analyzing "Fancy Clown" from Madvillainy.

Pure art.
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>>720986966
Repeating dubs of truth
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>>720986899
Tech n9ne is fucking garbage. Pure white trash famdom and black skater kids.
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>>720986899
tech 9 has one style, fast
hes not even that clever.
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>>720985145
He is. I'd put pic related as a close runner up though

>>720985245
Good one, friendo

>>720985273
They can

>>720985416
Actually if we're including producers then yeah Dilla and Madlib
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>>720987030
Sounds like someone hasnt listened to tech since like 03
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>>720986123
>uneducated monkeys
but he's way more intelligent and successful than you will ever be
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>>720986123
*than
you uneducated monkey
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8DoapfjJ0

if you don't find this accessible you have no business discussing hip hop
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>>720987118
Fair point. I really haven't. I totally based that off tech when I was in highschool. I'll listen to his new stuff tomorrow. But you can't deny his early shit was whack.
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>>720987110
Are you even serious or is this a troll? That guy has an infinite amount of styles thats what makes him good.
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>>720985629
my bruh bruh got grapes there
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>>720986967
depends. Rap is often associated with aggressive gangsta, money, bitches lyrics (50 cent is a good example)

While Real* Hip Hop has a message i.e. political, social, story telling, word play etc. (Search gangstarr, Nas, early Jay Z, MF Doom, Public Enemy, Wu-tang etc.)
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Icejj fish /all
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>>720987256
tech 9 is garbo and your fucking garbo for thinking he isnt, fuck you, im going to go take a shit
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>>720987110
have you ever heard red necro?
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>>720985145

Deltron

*drops mic*
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The genre's only been around for about 35 years; let's not jump to this conclusion just yet. I think the development of hip-hop needs to undergo a cycle before a solid judgment about this can be made.
Andre 3000 is one of, if not THE, best hip-hop artists of the 2000's for sure.
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Ayy while the discussion is open, what were some of your fave rap albums of 2016 guys
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Because this is the best hip Hopp artist
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>>720987254
I was in like middle school maybe freshman so i thought it was cool, but as i got older and my taste got more refined so did he tbh.
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>>720987256
>That guy has an infinite amount of styles
had a good kek
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https://youtu.be/TavLSDlLb3o
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>>720986123
What have you produced, faggot, or are you just a mindless consumer? Do you have even an ounce of the creativity and intellect it takes to push yourself to success? I didn't think so.
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>>720987414
>rap album
>2016
are you confused anon? real rap hasn't been made for awhile. unless you like mumblefuck
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>>720987557
you know there more to hip hop than whats mainstream right?
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>>720987557
I thought 50 did ok with 9 shots. It sounded a bit like his older stuff. But you can tell the passion wasn't totally there.
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>>720987557
This is true if you only pay attention to main stream
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>>720987414
I never liked kanye tbh, kind of a douche but i liked TLoP (if that even counts as real hip hop lol)

De La Soul's new album was garbage imo, i nver liked them

4 your eyez only was pretty good. The other 99% of mainstream hip hop releases were trash. not even considered hip hop, its mumble shit.
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Mos Def, or MF Doom
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>>720987557
Define "real rap". Tons of really solid hip-hop/rap has come out. Mumble rap and shit like that is popular, but that doesnt mean thats all there is
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>>720987627
My niggah
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>>720987687
>>720987627
>inb4 childish gambino or anybody related to Tyler or Tyler himself
you guys are wrong and I won't even debate the topic with you
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>>720987681
that released in 2015.
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>>720987796
those examples are very mainstream but not really mumble rap like 21 savage or lil yatchy
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I'm a murderer, nigga, but 'ion promote violence.
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>>720985145
because he's one of the greatest pop musicians of all time
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>>720987706
Saba: Bucket List Project
Ab-Soul: Do what Thou Wilt
Azizi Gibson: A New Life
Run The Jewels: RTJ3
Injury Reserve: Floss
Mick Jenkins: The Healing Component
ScHoolboy Q: Blank Face
Jay Rock: 90059
To name a few!
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>>720987870
okay anon name me someone relevant from the past 5 even 10 years who isn't mumble and isn't mainstream/house trash. I will wait
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>>720988081
see
>>720988071
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>>720987796
Flat bush zombies
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>>720988081
i like aesop rock personally
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>>720985145
when was his last album again?
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>>720986899
this man speaks the truth
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>>720988081
>name me someone relevant
Why do they have to be relevant for you to like them?
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>>720988273
aesop is cool and he has been kicking it since '96.. the golden era.. so he is definitely not new by any means.
>>720988131
no
>>720988071
>mixtapes
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>>720988327
relevant as in popular of the last few years you big dummy who **isn't mumble, mainstream etc. fucking read comments before getting at me bruhh
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>>720988081
Under acheivers
NF
Palmer squares
Vic mensa
Chance the rapper (acid rap and ten day)
But most importantly
K.A.A.N.
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>>720988456
If they arent mainstream they probably arent very relevant either.
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>>720988326
Thank you anon
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>>720988393
Hes had recent good albums and features so hes still relevant in the last 5 to 10 years.
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>>720988557
so you are admitting that I am correct in my theory that there has been no good rap made in recent memory? kay thanks
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>>720988509
where's my backpack fam?
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>>720988630
no? do they have to relevant to be a "good rap" artist? Can't someone be good and rather obscure?
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>>720988688
I never understood the term back pack rap mate
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>>720988456
Cherry picking like crazy.
"Name any good recent rap"
>Everyone does
"That doesn't count cause reasons"
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>>720988688
YAY AREA
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>>720985145
He's alright.... but everyone's personal favorite rapper is VERY much your favorite personal flavor. I'm personally partial to old Snoop Dogg, Dr Dre, Warren G, and Nate Dogg; but I fucking love the G Funk hiphop from the early 90s

You can argue technical skill as much as you want, but at the end of the day it doesn't take a huge amount of skill to make hiphop as it does to make other genres of music. But I think any project Dr Dre was involved in (he's almost always producer, beat writer, or both) is always fucking great. Even the one Arctic Monkey's album he produced (their only good album) was great.


If you're just going for technical skill though, Eminem is pretty solid but I'm finding his schtick is drying up and he just doesn't have that much to say anymore. Also againsty urban white boy made so much sense in the late 90s but now, it's getting old. There's only so long a man can whine about angst and family drama before he's just too old to do so and it looks like a manchild crying. That's why it's important for these angsty rappers/rockstars to grow up and switch up their styles (like marilyn manson did, up until he ceased to be relevant at all on Golden Age of Grotesque around 2003ish).
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>>720988870
Exactly. Motherfuckers always think they know best with a closed mind and a def ear.
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>>720988799
you are taking my very words out of context and already missed the point because I wasn't even originally commenting at you, congratz.

yes I said no rap has been made in the year 2016 (or the last 5-10y) to be fair 2010-2012 LMFAO dance EDM scene really started to blur the lines of mainstream hip hop and make a lot of stuff shit to where it is nowadays straight trap, mumble, or dance shit
>Can't someone be good and rather obscure?
Is DOOM even considered obscure anymore? no if you are good people will recognize the skill and you will be found out sooner or later.
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why try?
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>>720989040
Kendrick Lamar?
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>>720988828
cuz you spend too much time online
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>>720989054
hahaha good one anon
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>>720989040
>Hasn't listen to good underground rap for a few years.
>Says all recent rap is shit.
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>>720989137
his production is pretty solid but I haven't listened to a lot of his stuff to be fair
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>>720989040

No rap music in 2015?
> implying B4.da.$$ didn't come out

MF Doom is basically mainstream underground. Too mainstream to be underground, too underground to be mainstream.
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>>720989174
Not at all honestly im just old i guess
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>>720985145
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>>720989293
then i guess its the opposite, hats off to ya
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>>720989370
Not that 4chan is a good place for real answers, but what the fuck is back pack rap? i googled it and im still not sure.
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>>720989307
We doing white '90s rap groups now?
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>>720989215
most of my argument is that the underground rap scene is more or less dead because stuff is "underground" for all of 5mins before it is up on youtube/soundcloud and people are bumping it. it is beyond me how people bump most of the mainstream stuff but hey to each their own of course.

I guess Hopsin is the closest I can get to rappers who are relevant and good today
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>>720989544

The hipsters of rap music. Think like Hopsin, they complain about the rap scene and professional music in general all the time.
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>>720989194
24 albums in 23 years. who else has that? i mean i get you all are about lyricism but whos still stayin strong after that time?
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>>720988081
Look up savicmc kid is from my area and is dope imho
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>>720989573
>Hopsin
hes hardly underground
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Why is nobody talking about this dude?

If not this album he proved on Control Systems that he was fucking goat.
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>>720989753
I did see
>>720988071
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>>720989753
he believes in some weird conspiracy shit
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>>720989617
Oh word that makes sense thanks anon. I guess im gonna go buy a backpack now haha i like hopsin
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>>720989753
ehhh he's definitely one of the best in the game right now but nowhere near the greatest
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>>720989689
>hopsin
>hardly underground
as opposed to who? also I said "I guess" because Hopsin has been active for more than 10 years so he doesn't fit in my own criteria

Taskrok is pretty sweet too but he hasn't made any jams in awhile
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>>720989820
have you even been watching the news dude? you better start believing in weird conspiracies son because you are living in one
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>>720989817
Shiiiiit. sorry dog.

Can we talk about These Days? Why do I feel everybody skipped that album?
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>>720989753
Is this guy worth it? I havent tried him yet.
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He is a sell-out with his crappy TV and Movie acting. Bun B wayyyy better.
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>>720989911
All this illuminati bullshit is just a simplification of complex issues.
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>>720989942
Well i'd assume it's because that was a strange album. I don't even know if Soulo liked it, people started saying he made an intentionally "radio" type album and made it to be sorta bad as an example. I honestly didn't like it. But to be fair i've only heard it once through, so maybe im missing something as I often do until ive heard it a lot.
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>>720989983
Listen to that album and Control Systems. both good.

Nibiru and Christophr Droner are some good singles.
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>>720990136
Nibiru oh shit ok i will, i fuck with the whole planetx anunaki shit thanks bro
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>>720990099
but the illuminati was real anon and secret societies still exist today and some of the highest ranking public officials meet with titans of industry to discuss policy that directly affects your life. that is actually the definition of conspiring, in case you were unaware
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>>720990126
see that's how I felt at first too but like with a lot of his music you can go back and pull more out of it...it's hard to wrap my brain around some of his shit

that hidden track with the long ass freestyle? That was some nice shit.
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>>720989983
Yes, he's a really unique rapper. Sometimes amazing Rhyme schemes (Go listen to "RAW: Backwards) and some pretty interesting things to say, ranging from personal stories (Listen to "The Book of Soul") all the way to strange conspiracy theories (Listen to "Terrorist Threats"). And sometimes just cool/funny wordplay (Listen to "Wifey vs WiFi")
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>>720986314
megafag detected
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>>720990356
I'm not even going to step into this realm of stupid.
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i heard that Andre 3000 is cooler than ice
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>>720990265
you about to be in heaven.
listen to Control Systems right now.
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>>720990502
ice cold!
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>>720985145
hip hop is shit, not music, kill yourself faggot.
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>>720990486
okay lol because I am not sure what I have said that isn't 100% accurate but sure stay in the realm of "nonstupid" anon whatever works for you I guess
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>>720990632
bet you listen to emo pussy music. go slit your throat, faggot
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>>720990443
>>720990528
Im listening right now on spottify and shit is dope so far. thanks alot ive been needing somthing new and this is it. Fuck anyone who says /b/ is dead. Real as ppl are still here.
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>>720990632
you're shit you shit posting shitter.

combating the wack with some shit from way back.
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>>720990728
cutting off your fucking aids gay cock off would be better, shitjew.
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>>720990798
>e shit from way back.
what the fuck is this shit, niggerfaggot shit slave
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>>720990632
earlier tonight I was enjoying 3 pieces by Mozart and one by Brahms at the LA phil
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>>720990803
you're sounding like a real faggot, anon
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>>720985145
>andre 3000
>hip hop

choose one
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>>720990836
come on anon. at least commit yourself to a good troll. this is just embarrassing.

other anons thoughts on Isaiah?
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>>720990745
No problem man, always happy to share good music. Enjoy
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>>720991070
Like I said here
>>720987414
It's one of my favorite albums this year, and it's the only stuff i've heard from Zay. When i get the chance i'll listen to more
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>>720990882
hipshop still not music, faggot
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>>720987387
Del is another great MC way better than Andre
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>>720991269
you didn't reply back to me. is it perhaps because you don't actually appreciate real music live in concert as it was meant to? is it because you are a faggot?
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>>720991070
your non-music taste is shit , like you as your mother pushed out from her asshole, faggot
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>>720991356
music is for real people, not retards like you.
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Why no one mention Run the Jewels?
Three solid albums.
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>>720991437
>music is what i like
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>>720991437
this is just outright niggerdom what you are doing, not even shitposting. my point to you plebian is that I was enjoying beautiful music played by professionals written by the some of the greatest humans to ever write music... and then I can come and enjoy a /b/ thread about hip hop as well

your taste is limited to say the least
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>>720991437
top 3 albums of all time.

right now faggot.
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>>720991498
no. shit is shit, even if sugar on it ..
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>>720991672
dark side, metropolis 2, bookmarks.
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>>720991648
hip hop is still not fucking music, you untermensch 4/4 peasant...
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>>720992033
I fucking new it.

I still have your exif data faggot.
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>>720992201
ok.
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>>720992155
you are like one of those little peasants who kicks rocks and begs for coins. I spit on you as I leave the theater with papa. you have never heard real music in your life
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>>720992234
you got buttblasted in that last thread when I shit on your opinion and you had to come to another to shitpost?

how pathetic.
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>>720992394
no, i dont think so.
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>>720992364
wat
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>>720992201
Exif data would be stored in a picture, which anon did not post.
Even if he did, 4chan/b strips exif data now.
Not even mad, just amazed at the dumb newfaggotree.
An hero please.
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>>720992584
read it again if you want you uneducated swine
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>>720992562
your opinions are still contrived anyway.

dreamtheater is that band people spout because it's the cool "underground" band.

and bookmarks? a five for fighting album? opinion discarded.
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>>720992758
ayy lmao, faggot
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>>720992621
no they don't...WTF are you smoking?

I was in another thread n dude had same IP and everything. posted a picture from his phone. you want me to screenshot the exif?
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>>720992761
u dont know nothing...
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>>720992866
kek, phone, right...
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because i did not hear of him
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>>720992873
I know you're a bad troll with shit taste. you should be ashamed. kys
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>>720992971
kek, no. faggot, my taste is superior, and u cannot reach me with your undertalented nigger noise.
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>>720992866
Dude, look it up. Exif data was attached once upon a time. But moot got smart and started stripping it.
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>>720985145

the best hip hop artist ever is Gabber Piet. Known from his all time classic "Hakke & Zage". Check him out. I bet you'll change your mind, anon.
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>>720993188
its a faggot, dont a argue him,
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>>720993410
faggot
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>>720985145
notorious big,Eminem, opp wu tang,nas,
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>>720993493
Haha. Yeah. Feeding the trolls is not a good habit.
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>>720987117
This guy knows
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>>720985145
Eminem. Dude's not only the best technical rapper of all time but he came out as a white guy and not a wigger at a time when rap was thought to be purely a black art. Nothing more hip-hop than that.
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>>720992866
Did you do some research and educate yourself a little? As this anon suggested?
>>720993188

Just so you don't look retarded. Or at least pretend to not be a blithering idiot.
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>>720985145
docta octagon
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>>720994251
na į did.

they didn't remove exif. it's not stripped off. you just can't do it in browser anymore.

bro what kinda validation you need to make yourself feel better?
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>>720994251
just goes to show how pathetic you really are. reply to my post 30 minutes ago. if you would've taken that time to educate YOURSELF you might have learned something.

stay oblivious.
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>>720987387
Del all the way!!!
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"Walk it out like an usher...if you say real talk I probably won't trust ya. If you want to go to war the guns my pleasure...even Jesus had twelve Disciples on the leva, trigga, whatever"


"Original skin many men comprehend
I extend myself so you go out and tell a friend
Sin all depends on what you believing in
Faith is what you make it, that's the hardest shit since MC Ren
Alien can blend right on in with your kin
Look again, cause I swear I spot one every now and then"

"Let's talk about time travelin', rhyme javelin
Somethin' mind unravelin', get down
Return of the gangsta thanks ta'
Them niggas who got them kids
That got enough to buy an ounce
But not enough to bounce them kids to the zoo
Or to the park so they grow up in the dark never
Seein' light 'til they end up being like yo' sorry ass
Robbin' niggas in broad ass daylight get down
Return of the gangsta thanks ta'
Them niggas that get the wrong impression of expression
Then the question is Big Boi what's up with Andre?
Is he in a cult? Is he on drugs? Is he gay?
When y'all gon' break up? When y'all gon' wake up?
Nigga I'm feelin' better than ever what's wrong with you
You get down!
One of the best honestly...
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>>720994453
>>720994564

Now it's gotta be b8.
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>>720985145
Fred Durst is a God among men.
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>>720994864
it's bait because it's contrary to what I believe.

educate yourself.

doing a quick Google Search my say "4Chan removes exif" but if your smart you don't use 4Chan to get the exif in the frat place. reverse image search does wonders.
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>>720987934
yes. you are correct sir
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>>720995235
Posting an original picture taken by a phone and posted to /b with said phone will prove fruitless in your effort to extract such data.
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>>720995367
did you even read my post?

reverse image search brought me to the fags facebook. I got the exif from there. not all phones remove exif automatically. it's really not that hard to "socially engineer" someone when they make it so easy.
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>>720995484
Right. Good show. Carry on.
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>>720995573
hope he enjoys all those flat rate boxes

;^)
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>>720985273
u right

it's not like the vast majority of the genres and styles that have defined popular music in the past 75 years weren't in some way or another ripped off from niggas
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not even close to this guy
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>hip-hop
>art

Top kek.
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>>720986123
He's smarter and more successful than you. And far more talented.
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>>720985145

Big Boi absolutely fucking shreds Andre any day of the week.
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>>720986314
Jesus Christ I'm getting tired of these triggered /pol/ rants. Every thread always has to come back to their bbc or shemale fantasies.
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>>720986463
>shitposting on mom's pc makes me lel funny
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>>720985273
Let's compare your music, then. Oh wait, you're too fucking stupid yourself to make anything worthwhile.
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>>720987536
Nah, just let the alt-reich pretend to be superior wasting away in the back alley with nothing to show for it.
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>>720985145
There was that shitty cartoon nobody remembers because it was a failure
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Shitpost, rappers are gay faggots...
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3 stacks is the greatest ever, i've listened to all his tracks, i've seen him live, i've seen that idlewild movie.

Fucking legend
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>>720985145
fUCKING idiot faggots, kill yourselves niggers
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DOOM any day of the week
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Is nobody even going to mention guru? He's still king even after death.
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