what would the world look like today if the Soviet Union

>>720945208
but the soviets did win ww2

why would spain be spared?

>>720946297
resistance fighters

>>720946355
lol what?
pretty sure the red army can take some resistance fighters if they can conquer nazi germany, uk, usa, china and japan

>>720945208
Why wouldn't they take Canada?

>>720946726
harsh canadian winters

>>720945208
they did win. If you meant the cold war, well for one the population would be a lot smaller. Also technology would be more sparse and there would be alot more soup lines

>>720946892
Too hash for the Russians?? I don't think so, especially because at least 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the USA

>>720945343
>but the soviets did win ww2
No, the English speaking democracies won ww2.
The Russians came in second.

The "real winners" were Germany and Japan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

>>720947572
oh god it's going to be one of these threads, everyone stop taking the bait and abandon thread

>>720946726
>Why wouldn't they take Canada?
THIS.
Also: why/how defeat China?

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>>720947572
>real winners of WW2 were Japan and Nazi Germany
I heard that Americans are poorly educated but Jesus anon...

>>720947675
Not bait.
The Russians velarly weren't a "Real" part of the allies.
The US, Canada and the UK were all working on nuclear weapons, and wound up merging their efforts under the US Manhattan Project.
The Soviets weren't included, and in fact were spying on their "allies" throughout the war.
cont...

>>720947930
>I heard that Americans are poorly educated but Jesus anon...
Read the link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
The best ting that ever happened to Germany was the way the US treated them after the war.

>>720946892
>>720947351
He's got you there, mate.

>>720947572
75% of Axis powers soldiers were killed by the Russians tho

Don't steal their glory, capitalist pig

>>720945343
/thread , you jew-lover cut-cocksucking amerifags

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>>720947932
..continuing

YES, I know the Russians killed FAR more German soldiers than the other allies combined.
And if WW2 had been a war of attrition, that might help them claim victory.
Let me greentext it for you:
>Japan invades mainland Asia, creating long-term threat to long-time enemy, Russia
>Russia sits on their hands, lets US and Australia deal with it
>Germany invades most of Europe, Russia forms treaty to split Poland down the middle
>(at this point Russia is unofficial part of Axis, NOT Allies)
>Germany invades North Africa, tries to gain control of Oil reserves (would create HUGE problem for Russia)
>Russia sits on hands, lets Brits, Canucks and Americans do the fighting
>Germany Invades Russia
>Russia kills many Germans (but 70% of German Army will survive the war)
>Germany loses focus on Russia
>Russia sits on hands for TWO YEARS until American, Canadian and British boots hit French soil.
>Russia swoops in, "conquers" 1/3 ofwar-torn Europe
>Russia does to 1/3 of Europe what the English-speaking democracies were trying to prevent Germany from doing in the first place.

The only way you can claim the English speaking democracies DIDN'T win the war is that we idn't defeat Germany, Japan AND Russia.

Oh yeah, Italy was involved too, don't get me started.

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i take bait.

russkies couldn't event take finland and lost like 300k troops and another 500k wounded in two wars and somehow they could conquer europe, china and the usa?

pic related. russian soldier in winter war when it is -40 celcius

>>720948731
>75% of Axis powers soldiers were killed by the Russians tho
almost 70% SURVIVED THE WAR.
Besides , it wasn't a war of attrition.

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>>720947572
>Marshall plan
German here, 60% of the budget where for propaganda.
Our whole country was bombed to the ground.
The guy who made west germany great was Ludwig Erhard.

>>720949230
what in that in Fahrenheit?

>>720949846
>The guy who made west germany great was Ludwig Erhard.
Stand by, amking popcorn, going to Wikipedia and opening another bottle of mead..

>>720949922
also 40 below.

>>720945208
still nobody wants Mexico ...

>>720950020
i may be american, but i know that in europe water freezes at 0 degrees and in the US at 32.

it cant be the same..

>>720945208
I don't see how the backwards and heavily damaged U.S.S.R. could have possibly defeated the Germans without outside help, or the massive contributions coming from the U.S.

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>>720949981
He deregulated the market and made us the most free market economy in the whole world.
After he did that the german people litteraly started to work and filled the supermarkets instatntly with new products.

West germany was the fastest growing economy that ever existed back then.

>>720950349

What "contributions", Amerifag? The USA did nothing for Russia.

They were sitting on their hands hoping Germany would defeat them.

>>720950590
bullshit. you cant be more free than America. you may have been the freest country in Europe, but not in the world

>cant say anything bad about the jews or you get arrested

>>720950817
Only our market was more free than murika.

>>720950656
weapons, jeeps, food, and most importantly, hope.

>>720949846
>Ludwig Erhard.

Wikipedia:
>economic consultant. Under the Bizone established by the American and British administration in 1947

So if he were from EAST Germany, things would have been completely different????
Nah, I'ma still go with Marshall Plan.

>>720950941
i dont believe it, but i dont want to argue it with you

>>720947688
China was a joke, untill after WWII. Japanese with 10 times less population fucked them over hard. Take a look at all the civil wars and rebellions China had over the years. Only after communist revolution did China start to become world superpower. If you think sweatshops are bad, imagine 100 years ago living in houses made of wood and mud, working 12 hours a day in the field just for someone to come and take everything away from you.

>>720946355
they were actively fighting commies v nationalists at that time the soviets would have tipped the balance.

>>720950656
>The USA did nothing for Russia.
>supplied food, weapons and supplies throughout the war
>did all their fighting in Asia and Africa

Sure...

>>720950656
The reason Americans did not intervene sooner was the fact that America took a non-interventionist approach to world afairs after the first world war. The re-tooling of the American military industrial complex took a few years, and a lot of effort on Roosevelt part. Congress did not want to send another generation to die in Eurabia.

>>720951027
>So if he were from EAST Germany, things would have been completely different????
The Soviets forced east germany into communism,he couldn´t have done it over there.

The Marshall plan was actualy just a propaganda project to enshure the loyality of the german people to the western allies.

Read a god damn book at least watch a video on ww2

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>>720950975
>weapons, jeeps, food, and most importantly, hope.

>hope

We all know how awful the USA education system is, so you needn't remind us.

I like how this thread devolved into Eurabians being mad about the FACT that if America did not intervene they would be typing in kraut.

>>720951236
The weapons supplied weren't that many, and the .30 and .45 ammunition required for them were incompatible with the soviet-made weapons so the logistics and longevity of the weapons provided were piss-poor

>>720951027

Had the Red Army been allowed to liberate all of Europe, the world would have been far better for it.

No Cold War, for example.

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>>720945343
Fpbp. Why are we still here?

>>720952133
>Why are we still here?

Good question. Why the fuck won't you leave? You aren't needed or welcome. Just go for fucks sake.

>>720945343
you right , they win the ww2 . just rember who take berlin and where hilter bring the major part of the nazi's army .

>>720952040
yea everyone could have starved!

>>720952040
i believe you can only be liberated by a free country that will give you LIBERTY. not by a communist dictatorship looking to enslave you and tell you what to do

>>720945208
They did.

USSR was on the side of the Allies.
Same side as US and Britain

>>720952380

Do you Amis even stop to think about what you say? Even for one blessed moment?

>>720952642
Was the soviet union real communism?

>>720952642
we are not friends you fucking frog

>>720952475
>liberated by a free country that will give you LIBERTY

>liberty
>beholden to USA corporate interests

Pick one.

>>720950321
(-40C x 9/5) + 32 = -40F

kinda coincidence i say

>>720952919
your one twisted fuck, have fun fucking fat chicks/on the spectrum men all your life.

>>720952919
suck merkels dick some more why don't ya

>>720949215
oh this is wrong on so many levels. Japan didn't invade Russia so why give a fuck? They attacked US base after embargo from US "neutral" country. Why dont u read about events little before WW2, like when Brits and Muricans stopped taking in Jewish refugees. Or Munich Agreement when Brits, French and Italians gave Germans Czechoslovak region? What did you shits do when Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia was declared? Do u moron even know what im talking about? Francesco Franco takes rule by force over Spain what did u do? Italy invades Albania what did you do? Wat did you do after "Rape of Nanking"? Lets not joke no one would give a fuck about Japanese if they didn't attack US base. What did west do when Germans remilitarized Rhineland? Nothin you say? Germany loses focus on Russia? When invasion started 2 million German soldiers were in Russia and 5 were on te Western front. Before collapse of Germans 4 millions were in Eastern front and less than 2 million on the Western front. And almost all heavy equipment was moved east apart from anti naval guns. Russia sits for 2 years? How many years before start of the war did you sit on your asses while Hitler was annexing countries and breaking deals WESTERN countries signed as well? Get you started on what you twat? Reading history books?

>>720947932
Also Russians were spying on allies. So did allies on Russians, and Germans and everyone else. They still do, everyone fucking does it. Didn't couple of years ago big scandal happen when it was found out that Muricans spy on their European allies?

>>720951814
>The weapons supplied weren't that many
Sure, comrade...
http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm

>>720952040
>Had the Red Army been allowed to liberate all of Europe, the world would have been far better for it.
>Had the Red Army been capable of doing more than barely defending Russia with tremendous help from the US, they would have enslaved even more of Europe until the whole Soviet system collapsed under it's own weight decades later.
FTFY
....but this:
>>720952040
>No Cold War, for example.
is STILL completely wrong.

>>720953659
>I'm really sad your grandparents beat my grandparents, the post