Considering all the political turmoil lately, would you seriously

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should have burned the south in 1865

>>720866154
Why keep Arizona?

maybe an original idea. Divide it based on class system. Not only financial, but also ideological. Like poorfags < old school racist lower middle class america of the 1950, nostalgic, uneducated, trump supporting jesus freaks < liberal educated globalized urban elite

No way to draw borders and create two contiguous nations.

Need to break out the gats and get it over with...give Duke his rahowa and burn USA down. We will all die, and can't retaliate when Kim jong un nukes our dead asses.

Leave world leadership to China.

>>720866323
it ain't *that* bad
should have deleted alasrussia though

>>720866323
wasn't involved in the war, so give it a chance

>>720866798
and keep texas. the oil money has managed to little by little educate those fucking rednecks. Cities are started to get civilized and urban, and the trailer parks and ranches are disappearing

>>720866798
I honestly kind of like Tucson. It's too hot, but it's a cool town. It's just a super red state is why I asked.

>>720865669
Remind me how splitting up Rome worked out.

Holy shit I've been saying this for a minute now

Hillbilly republicans get the southeast,

white America gets northeast,

Hispanics get the southwest

Hippies get the northwest


Anyone can go where they please but those would serve as the governing bodies for their respected areas


Oh and Texas just stays Texas

>>720866955
>implying burgerland is Rome

Shall we agree on invading some country. Maybe some shithole in Africa or something and then deporting all the anti-globalization populatists, rednecks, brexiters et all there?
See if they can fend for themselves without the free capital of goods and people. In autarky. Maybe make a reality TV about their survival so they don't get bored too

>>720865669

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

that worked out great the last time didnt it

>>720866978

I like this

>>720866948
yeah I was wrong. Let's keep it. Burn Utah though fuck *that* kill it with fire and magnets

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>>720867119
Well generally after a war, the winning side gets to decide the future political landscape of the country. We just won the war and dipped. like wtf. the rednecks were still rednecks? should have burned it to the ground, and started from scratch. Would have saved us a 100 years in cultural advancement

How about split it into 50 smaller countries that are allied to do limited things like provide common defense and maintain foreign diplomacy.

>>720867294
GDP: $3.50 per capita, payday loans, pregnant cousins, and heroin?

>>720865669
Um urban liberal coastal states and conservative central states. The coastal states don't have to be contiguous, they can be attached by sea/air. Especially if the two nations freely agree to allow travel through one another like the EU.

>>720867323
should have done a cultural revolution there

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>>720867387
Still crying?

No, I want a bloody civil war. We need to purify the country of the filthy left.

>>720867323
>we just won the war
Didn't know you saddled up for the Union you pretentious faggot.

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>>720867529
This.
We just get it over with

Concept: Annexing Canada

>>720867504
yeah. fuck both parties. one is 1952, and the other is LGBTIA∂ƒßµ∑¬ß appologetic pussies
at least the latter wouldnt fuck up as bigly as this fucking moron. like come on.

>>720867387
Better than a bunch of Niggers, Muslims, and Faggots running around

>>720867615
yeah a bunch of overweight closet gays, korean vets and fucking Paula Dean.
Uneducated fucking plebs, suck my globalized dick

>>720867728
eh not ideal, at least trump will help the democratic party reform and stop choosing small fucking fights like that.

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>>720867828

>>720865669
>inb4 kill niggers, kill libtards, etc. Let's be civilized about this.
motherfucker this is /b/

>west PA
>everything within 30 miles of the western banks of the Ohio river
>panhandle of Maryland
>Most of Wva
>south western Virginia
>eastern Kentucky and Tennessee

Could this region survive as its on nation?

>>720868024
CREW has infested /b/

>>720867828
the funny thing is that the educated part is true. Why are predominantly liberal states better educated? How did this come to be? Was it that more money was put into education through the government?

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Not really interested in America tbh. I'm happy to buy the goods, I'm happy to consume the media; just so long as I don't have to deal with the people themselves. Could not give less of a fuck what happens to them or their country.

>>720866978
Washington here. I've never considered myself a hippie but I think this sounds fine.

just calling this now. i want it in writing. california and some states near it leave the union before the war even starts, starting a seperate nation and are never directly involved. texas leaves shortly thereafter. the war is between trumps west (formally modwest usa), and the east. the west is supported by russia, the east by texas and mexico, with small help from canada and parts of europe. if the west wins, china bombs us into powder. if the east wins, russia does it.

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>>720868186
Gee I really wonder!

>>720867586
I'll never get enough of liberal tears
lol

>>720867396
>Especially if the two nations freely agree to allow travel through one another like the EU
I think this part is important. I mean we don't need to split and then immediately fucking fight each other if the whole point is to provide people with solutions, right?

>>720867728
I actually disagree with you here. I'll take the niggers, Muslims, and faggots over the other option given.

>>720868429
i say centralize core issues (defence, monetary, foreign policy, economic, etc) under DC and the east coast. Then give more small freedoms to the jesusfreaks. Let them have dry counties, stop abortion in their 12 sq miles, and prevent mosques from being built, have debates on petty shit, be anti gay, and help eachother renovate their trailers.
that way, the whole world doesnt get fucked, and Billy Bob has the illusion of power

>>720868230
Where are you from? I'm not offended by your attitude, I'm just curious.

I'd imagine the West coast, the Midwest/South and the East Coast would be where the country were to split.

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>>720866154
Alaska doesn't want any part of this liberal faggotry, Arizona excluded, you fucking cuck

>>720866948
Reppin' Dirty T my man. Glad they're finally starting to do something about the road infrastructure.

>>720866154
but Booker T. Washington was from Alabama. How else would your dog lick your disgusting micropenis if he hadn't invented peanut butter?

>>720868271
Idk. Im in jersey and theres a good mix of liberals and trumpfags.

>>720868951
Kek I've only ever visited but it's pretty there, the food is great, and I feel like I remember there being some good beer, too. I might think about sucking a dick right about now for a couple of Sonoran hot dogs.

How do we solve the nigger and mudslime problem?

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>>720865669
Kill niggers. In a civilized manner

>>720869005
Kek

Kill niggers

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Why can't you republican and democrats just get along? Why do you guys turn everything into a 'them vs us'? Is it your media or is it just an American thing? I don't live in the US btw.

>>720868313
Also what's with this? If you zoom into even the most republic states usually the county with the biggest city is democratic even if the rest of the state is heavily republic. Eg - Dallas TX, Nashville TN. All the major cities that the rest of the world knows about are mostly democratic. pic related

>>720866154
>throws out NM and CO
>only states that went blue out west

>>720869811
We do this because republicans are a bunch of retarded inbred faggots who follow a primitive version of an ancient religion and refuse to join the 21st century. Also memes.

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>>720869005
lol

>>720869811
Because the EDUCATED white collar americans are located in cities. The retarded, inbred trumpfags live in the rural areas where they can fuck their cousins.

>>720870117
spotted the gimme dats snowflake.

>>720870597
spotted the cousin-fucker

Personally I think we should have a civil war. That way we can end this tiered us vs them shit once and for all. The lesbo's, trans, faggots, niggers, white guilt, SJW's,Feminist, ect VS all the people accused for being "heteronormative" (typing that makes me feel ill), in other words, normal people, on the other. Have that shit out to the death and put it to rest.

Winner takes all.

>>720870597
I've never gotten a penny in government assistance and I'm not trying to start. Educated higher income people are more likely to vote Democrat, so this is a pretty shitty meme.

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>>720867828
Beat me to it

>>720870439
Also known as gerrymandering. Your party is a bunch of boundary manipulating pricks.

>>720865669
Of course we should stay a country. We didn't kill millions of natives not to keep our manifest destiny.

>>720870848
You do realize that both parties have done gerrymandering, right?

I'm not necessarily on either side but I'm generally democratic, and honestly these riots are retarded. Just wait 4 or 8 years just like the republicans did during Obama presidency and suck it up. You're not gonna be happy with every single leadership lmao

>>720870731
>Educated higher income people are more likely to vote Democrat
They do the bidding of their unions. That changed this election.

as a european. invited to your country 9 month I would be tempted.

>>720870967
Both parties have done your mom.

>>720870848
LMAO, so you're still trying to still fight with your cheeto overlord about a rigged popular vote, huh? don't you have better things to worry about

>>720867344
Not sure if trolling or serious.

>>720869811
>Why can't you republican and democrats just get along? Why do you guys turn everything into a 'them vs us'? Is it your media or is it just an American thing? I don't live in the US btw.
This is why>>720870117
>>720870439
>>720870597
>>720870629

Put all the libtards in california and wait for an earthquake to to cause the state to drop into the ocean

>>720865669
Dakota to Texas.

>California Decides Fuck the Constitution it loves immigrants more and holds a vote to seceded from the union
>Votes passed 70+%
>California Declares it is a free state, people rejoice and smoke marijuana in the streets, flip cars in celebration.
>Within an hour of seceding the USA Declares war on California to preserve the union.
>US Army sweeps in, Thousands of protesters killed as Militia
>LA, Sacramento, San Diego, and all other major cities secured within 24 hrs.
>Free Cali Republic is defeated
>23 other states considering votes stand down and cancel all votes
>Trump Saves America, becomes the new Lincoln

>>720865669
Nope. the United states actually needs more fucking land. lets take Mexico and Canada... both will be cake walks, but we take Canada first, because of their oil reserves.

Only liberals that want to watch the united states burn and have no fore thought to the reaction to their actions.

example number 1.
>>720866154

>>720871151
and the very next comment
>>720871350


Because both sides are retarded, whining faggots that treat it like a fucking sport instead of a form of government.

>>720871127
Not really, he is still 100% president with less than 50% popularity so I really don't care. What I'm saying is, going solely off of the popular vote is a terrible method. 5 cities will control the outcome of the election.

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>>720870117
>>720870439

What if we just respected states rights to make their own laws and stopped trying to use the federal government to enforce our own state's morals on other states? Maybe treated our country like a federation of smaller countries like it was supposed to be in the first place.

>>720871602
And failed? Articles of Confederation were shit. Look it up retard

>>720871578
then get more people to live in your state, don't make one person's vote count more just because people choose to live in a different city and think differently than you.

>>720871602
Libertarian retard detected.

>>720869811
tribalism, that's about it. You'll see libtards, for example, talking about how they're all smart and shit, but all of them never saw Trump coming. They thought themselves so smart they thought they won by default. A retarded woman, Ann Coulter, knew Trump would win and all the libtards laughed at her in the smug way that they do. A big smug collection of self important tribal assholes with perceived moral superiority.

Same shit goes for the other side. What I'm trying to say here is they're both mentally ill ideologues who defend their side full of retarded people till the bitter end.

>>720871714
retard detected.

Didn't need a clarification... you're just amongst the retarded.

>>720871687
I live in New York City. My county was the only red one in the entire City. 300k people didn't have their voices heard because the other county across the water has 3-4x our population.

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>>720871602
Frankly. what scares me is all the spics in the south really, I live in Florida. unbeknownst to popular belief, its the fucking south..

We can deal with niggers, but spics are a whole fucking another ball game, look at the southern half of the america's....

at least with niggers since they are bred by whites, the first few snaps of a whip and they shut the fuck up and listen closely.

>>720871777
but barely anybody thought trump would win, other than idealists who just wanted him to win

>>720871839
Ya. Because the states having a certain number of electoral votes fucked you over. If it was a popular vote, your vote would have counted just as much as there's. You'd still have lost, because more people think a different way, but it would have been equal and fair.

Muslims are the problem. Fuck islam!!!

>>720871876
I remember when I was 13 and edgy...

>>720871552
Pretty much. I can't talk politics with either my conservative or liberal friends and family without them endlessly interrupting me and telling me "that's wrong," without providing an explanation. It really gets on my nerves whenever I do a lot of research only to hear "NO, THAT'S WRONG!!!" or "YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!!!" I swear I provide facts and studies, and yet they will still deny it. I hate both the left and the right.

>>720871987
Popular vote cannot work here. Electoral college is the only way. Otherwise 5 cities, as stated, control the election.

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>>720872024
>off by a 2.

Guessing you're a spic huh? you know, you folk are real cowards %100 of the time..

>>720872206
Still underage b& MODS

>>720872114
That's not a problem unless you're just upset that the majority of people in your country don't have the same beliefs as you. It doesn't matter if it was one city. It's not a city that's voting. It's individuals. I'm sorry if it upsets you that people in different parts of your country think differently than you, but that doesn't mean you should get more of a say than them. 500,000 people that think one way should get the say over 100,000 that think another.

>>720872206
so you're 12? Got it. Don't let mommy know you're up past bedtime.

>>720871461
>>720867852
Why americans cry so much about freedom while bitching on others opinions that are against theirs.

Is the average american this stupid or 4chan is full of edgy white trash kids?

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>>720872337
Mods can't help you here buddy, you're stuck with me...

s-so you wanna go to walmart er something?

>>720872399
pretty much both.

>>720872399
the average american is pretty dumb but we make up for it by having a large population, and a lot of McDonalds.

>>720866154
>Cut out all US agriculture

You are fucking retarded.

>>720872114
Well we give votes to people, not to land, so why is this even worth mentioning?

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Heres NYC.
>Bronx
1,455,444
>Brooklyn (Kings County)
2,636,735
>Manhattan (New York County)
1,644,518
>Queens
2,339,150
>Staten Island(Richmond County)
443,762

>Total:
8,550,405

You let me know how these counties are evenly divided...

>>720871922
I saw it, I didn't want him to win. The constant attention on him, his absolute relentlessness and confidence. He looked like a winner the entire. Sure, stupid shit came out of his face, but it came out like he already won, and he did. I saw the same thing in Obama, only he was well versed in bullshit. Hilary on the other hand looked like a damn robot, unsure, desperate and she was as it turned out. Bitch tried to cheat, had meltdowns, and called a good portion of Americans names like a child. She looked like a loser, and did.

>>720872114
And thats a bad thing?? 5 cities control much of America's GDP, population, intelligence, contributions, culture.

Why the fuck does Jim from Alabama, who is fucking his cousin, have a vote that counts for more than mine does?

>>720872399
Definitely both.

Nice dubs.

>>720872742
popular vote would solve this

>>720872670
Here's what "the average american is dumb but we make up for it in population" reminds me of:

A manager hires a new salesman for his store. At the end of the month he calls the salesman in and says "You're selling everything for such a low price we can't make a profit".
The salesman says "Yeah, but we'll make up for it in volume"

>>720872787
It's not as much as a one person one vote issue, as it is a, the counties aren't divided equally, and need to be in order to have a true fair election outcome

WA state here

i would absolutely go along with CA, OR and WA forming their own country

American guy here. I feel as tho we Americans are all about to die. Congrats world! You get your wish.

>>720873012
also American. Can confirm. Every civilization that ever was has fallen, and well, we had a good run.

>>720873000
Seattlefag here. I too am on board with this.

Also fucking checked.

>>720872343
They do. They have a higher number of electoral votes.
>>720872787
The areas that voted Trump are highly important in agriculture and other fields that highly benefit the USA. It's a very bad thing for 5 cities to control who is elected president. The same solutions in Los Angeles are not going to work in Wyoming, Alaska, West Virginia, Montana, etc. Why should the people living in these states see their economy get totally fucked over because 5 cities just happen to "know" what's best for them?

>>720866978
white america gets NYC?
that's fuuqed up.

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>>720872399
I have no problem with others having an opinion anon.

what scares me about these modern extremist liberal types? they cannot begin to remotely think for a second they are wrong, in their minds they cannot be wrong. everything they spew/believe in is right. now that we've got trump as a president it causes a little something in their brains to feel like somehow they are losing.. now they are getting desperate, and there are select few people whom are going to use this for their own personal gain.

no matter how you want to see it, right now unorganized and seemly brainless, they honestly seem harmless, but desperate people do not care and will do anything.. all it takes is for one person to say the right things, arm them with weapons, and now they've got a personal army full of extremist liberals.

and by time they realize they've been manipulated it will be too late, they will be stuck on a city street with me on the other end, whizzing and cracking .308 rounds down the street at them...

>>720873012
Oh you wish you were about to die. No what's about to happen is much worse than death: Americans on both sides of the metaphorical aisle are going to have to participate in their government for the rest of their lives! And not just voting, that's the bare minimum. I'm talking staying informed and demonstrating and understanding local politics. Oh it'll be hell, believe you me.

>>720866154
Kentucky fought for the Union, why the hell would they be burned too

>>720873105
But not an equal ratio. It's still skewed to make smaller states individual votes count more than ones with higher population. Not everyone's vote is equal in this country.

>>720873075
>>720873000
Ya, the government will never let california go. You literally make them all their money.

>>720872940
Why though? The number of counties don't matter either. Maybe more people are living in New York county (manhattan) than some random one in Wyoming for a reason. I understand that people living near each other share similar opinions on this kind of stuff, so it's 'unfair' that those people out in bum fuck Wyoming 'don't get there voices heard' if it was just a popular vote. But NYC contributes way more to this country than Wyoming does. At least make the power of the vote even.

>>720873210
Because apparently everybody is too retarded to know what side Kentucky was on. Honestly the only reason I remember they were Union is that I went to elementary school in Lexington. Otherwise I'd probably be a tard too.

>>720873304
>It's still skewed to make smaller states individual votes count more than ones with higher population. Not everyone's vote is equal in this country
How? No one gave a shit about the smaller states, they were more concerned with the battleground states. If anything, it's still the opposite where the higher population states have an unfair advantage with three high population states pretty much being dedicated to being Democrat: California, New York, and Illinois. That's 104 guaranteed votes. Then add in New England, D.C., Washington, Oregon, Maryland, Virginia, and New Jersey and the Democrats have a much more unfair advantage over the Republicans.

>>720873373
Blues VS Greys don't matter any more...

that being said. anyone whom can't even google to look it up, deserves the ol B&

>>720873354
Again, middle America is the forgotten man. But thanks to Donald Trump, forgotten no longer.

>>720873778
*who can't.
who is the subject.
whom is an object.

>>720873874
yeah, he's gonna build those pipelines straight through it. and forget about it once more.

>I don't hate Trump
>I just hate those god-forsaken pipe lines that go through what little real forest/grasslands/mountains/swamps we have left

they don't last forever, and the company's will keep using them until they break something horrible..

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>>720865669
As a Canadian I wanna throw my opinion in here.
Your idea is completely and utterly autistic OP. Like really fucking autistic.

Why are you gonna split the US? Cause some of you faggots can't handle having a different leader? My god, imagine if you do split off and the split portion doesn't like the new president that they elected. Are you gonna split again?

No, you see up here in Canada we fucking stick to our guns and stay togeather even if we have differences on opinions. For fucks sake Quebec has a culture closer to that of the French then that of our own, yet we stay togeather.

The fucking French and the Brits stayed togeather. Let it sink in.

And yet you babies and crying about political views that should shatter your country.

Go to Mexico and have a time out OP.

>>720874021
frankly I could care less.. my phones a piece of shit with a billion cracks in the screen. if it wants to change words, I'm not fixing them.

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>>720873178
At least you won't be alone.

>>720874592
o shit, can relate.
thought you were trying to sound smart.

>>720866913
actually come live in Texas and then re-evaluate your comment. I live near Dallas and it's probably nicer, more civilized, and more technologically advanced than the shithole you live in. My neighbor hood has mansions man this place is fucking paradise besides the shitty weather and as a bonus everyone here is nice as fuck. I've been everywhere in Texas and you will never meet nicer more humble people. Sure I live near the city but unless you are wayyy outside the city, Texas is pretty much like the rest of the country. And I've been all over the country. People from Cali, New York, all the other southern states, most northern states.. All grouchy and on airs sniffing their own farts like fine wine. And Texas is by far the only state I know of where everyone that lives here is incredibly patriotic toward the State. Even people who move here. I and most people around me love this place and wouldn't move to any other part of the country. Anyways it pisses me off when people stereotype Texas as redneck morons getting around by horse back and shooting guns. I have fiber optic Internet and endless highest end luxury stores and restaurants within 10 miles of me. Same goes for Austin, Houston, parts of San Antonio, Tyler and Lubbock, etc. I need this shitty stereotype to end. Ok done.

>>720874771
yeah it typed whom on another thread I'm typing on too. Noticed it after you pointed it out. I'll try to clear the keyboard word cache thing to default.

Thus far, everything's been all right.

>>720865669
Nice dick rate thread.

Yup, you're a 10/10.

Be more/b, less of...whatever this weak shit post is.

>>720874822
I know that feel, bro. I get the same shit from Northerners and Californians whenever I say I'm from Missouri, and even more shit when I tell them I'm from St. Louis.

>>720865669

no there's no reason to split the union.

We need to gives states more power, the federal government has too much. Trump shouldn't be able to ban anyone from New York if the state wants to let it's residence back home. If Kansas wants to stop teaching science let them. Why do corn farmers need to know evolution anyway? let them grow my food and be stupid,who cares what they think?

Let the Fly over states become impoverished because of their horrible religious policies, while the blue states profit and the swing states turn blue.

The pres should only help out in depressions, wars, and shit like that.

>>720874822
Texas would be cool, if they stopped the whole "IMA COWBOY!" faggottyness.

>>720866513
>i
this make clear why dividing would be a bad idea.

>>720874550
Words of wisdom. I disagree with Trump heavily, but I'm not going to abandon my country because he has a different opinion than me.

>>720874550
> French are the same as spics and niggers

Come on man, think that one through. We don't even acknowledge the difference between Germans, English, French, Irish, Italians, and Poles. We have our shit together on assimilating civilized peoples.

It's niggers voting 90% plus for who ever the media tells them to and a bunch of "legals" with illegal family that allow a handful of real Americans to form a party against the rest of us.

>>720875165
Try visiting Texas instead of just watching a King of the Hill episode.

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>>720875495
Frankly Puerto Rico is a huge fucking problem.. the transplants from that shitty island are horrible, and they breed like ants.

>>720875619
Funny since ya know im a truck driver that often drives between Texas and Florida...

>>720867294
Hell yeah, I have bay front property in Columbia Bay.

Well at least we already have the names figured out:
'Murrica, and, you guessed it...

DUMB-FUCKISTAN.

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>>720866154
precisely this.

the midwest/south are welfare states. we give them hundreds of billions annually, for subsidies and welfare.

the coasts are worth trillions. CA is the world's 5th largest economy.

Fuck the filth in the midwest and south. Flyover filth. Meth addicts. molesters. criminals. Welfare queens. Anti-education. Anti-intellectualism. Flat-earthers. Science-deniers. Unemployment. Retards.

>>720867323
You did pretty much burn it to the ground, and then occupied it. Lincoln was a tyrant. Why no uproar when California wants to secede? I think any state that wants to should just be left alone. If they suffer without the Union, that's on them. If they prosper, good for them.

>>720867387
Isn't that New England now?

>>720875783
Funny since ya know I've visited my friends in Austin for years and I've yet to encounter anyone like that...

>>720874550
When was your last civil war?

Americans hate each other. They want to kill each other (and they probably will again).

trump isn't fit to lead a 3rd world shithole. he's destroying the US.

>>720876180

You need to get out of your city then, because I know I've seen them toting around Dallas before...

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>>720875495
I'm not comparing spics and niggers to the French. But do you understand how much the English hate the French and the French hate the English?

It's less about how "useless" they are or how different they are and more about the pure unadulterated hate between them. It doesn't even compare to your hate. If France came down to Quebec and said "hey yeah, fuck Canada come join us" Quebec would fucking riot and try and seperate again in a heartbeat. Yet we still get along.

>also we don't talk about the differences each "white" culture has

Then what's your backwards ass country doing then? Fucking up here we have huge fucking differences, but what makes us Canadian is mutual love of certain things like booze, maple syrup and hockey! (And occasionally Don cherry). We identify as Canadian as well, and if fucking britian or trump or some fucking Peruvian country tried to exterminate Quebec we would all gather up and blow them fuckers away, and them frog eating bastards would do the same for us.

You guys have a weird country.

>>720876083
low population large area states with hundreds of miles of interstate highway (federally funded), a couple active duty military bases (federally funded), and more federally owned (and funded) land than all other land combined pay less in taxes than the federal government spends inside the state?
I can't fucking believe it

>>720876255
>when was your last civil war.

Pretty much all the time until we became Canada.

>>720876083
Well the south is pretty much a bunch of illegal immigrants and niggers so....

>>720875783
tbh you sound like a slack-jawed yokel.

i'd like to snatch your fiddle, and crack you over the head with it (whilst my militia trained their automatic m4's on your head).

>>720869811
I'll make it simple for you.

Cities have more money and are funded by the government. They then can give more government hand outs and more dependency programs targeted toward lower income classes. These programs are then run with democrat ideology and brainwash these lower income and even illegal alien groups into believing that democrat policies (free hand outs, high taxes on the wealthy, free this free that, strong central governments, we are more tolerant and caring) are right for them. Democrats then create a system of never ending dependency, which makes these groups have to vote for democrats so they can continue living the way they do. The cycle continues, they are brainwashed beyond repair, and when change happens they blow up cars and march in the streets like the world is ending.

Democrats work by making the population dependent on the government which thereby makes the government more powerful and little by little allows the government to continue to spread its reach and increase its influence. Big businesses cut shady deals, stay strong, and small businesses are hard pressed to get any ground with the monumental taxes and roadblocks designed to keep people dependent and big businesses in power, which are conveniently located in big cities and are also government funded.

People in more rural areas don't have this dependency and actually work for what they have. Conservative ideals help these individuals and a smaller centralized government interferes less with their business and allows small businesses to thrive. The American Dream is actually much easily obtainable when conservative ideals are in place, and with work there is literally no reason not to succeed.

Cities might seem like they are democratic because of things like education, technology, and gdp but in reality and this is true, it's because of their reliance on the government and the programs in place to keep the cities blue that maintain this distribution of demo-cities.

>>720876400
sadly, in the south/Midwest, the largest group on welfare are whites.

that's not the case on the coasts. we're worth trillions.

you're welfare states that have failed in every regard.

>>720865669
I would welcome it and have said for years now our population is far too big for our government.

>>720874550


Quebec has a secessionist movement on par with the ones in Texas, California, Hawaii and Vermont.

>>720876424
sure, kid.

>>720876499
But you can't win elections.

>>720876628
we have up until now. and we will again.

the pendulum swings, boy. get an education.

>>720876687
Nah, you won't.

>>720876424
>and actually work for what they have
stopped reading there
the only work Cletus does is working up a sweat when he fucks his sister

>>720876544
I have no frame of reference and therefore cannot make a snide comment.

>>720876747
that's hot, got a sauce?

>>720865669

Making people happy is what got us to this point. Time to piss people off

>>720865669
The red states wont allow it. Who else going to cover thier state welfare checks.

>>720876499
>that's not the case on the coasts. we're worth trillions.
>you're welfare states that have failed in every regard.
The Federal Reserve Bank's assets disagree with you. The Richmond Branch has more assets than the San Francisco Branch. The Chicago, Atlanta, and Cleveland branches have more assets than the Boston and Philadelphia branches.

>>720866978
And the blacks go back to Africa

>>720868230
Fuken a

>>720876083


When you do the math California exports a shitload of federal tax dollars. Its tens of billions a year or more. That money is then used to subsidize other states who can have lower taxes and their citizens will claim that California is full of commies.

>>720865669
Trump is putting in place his new internet plan which will bar you from a ton of websites and water down your internet. And that's not the worst of it http://traineddog.club

>>720865669
go back to /pol/

>>720875722
>breed like ants
do you have any fucking clue how ants breed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant#Reproduction

>>720876424
If you want a good example of this taken to its extreme research Detroit's history starting in the 1970s. Detroit was supposed to be the poster boy of Democratic policies put in place and was meant to show the country how their ideals could make a city thrive. They had been run by democrats for the last 40 years and had the most extreme liberal policies and systems in place to show off how it worked. As you can see it was a massive failure, killing the major companies (that the city finally couldn't afford to continue to subsidize) destroying its own economy and ruining the business throughout the city, thereby depleting its population by staggering amounts. It's literally the example of what liberal policies would do if implemented to their extreme left ideals, and it failed, was swept under the rug and blamed on other events happening at the same time.

Please do NOT take my word for this. Research it yourself. It's not hard to find, it's in black and white and you can read exactly how it started and finally collapsed, along with all the democrats, their policies, and government involvement that went with it.

>>720872675
>all US agriculture
>California
Yore retarded

>>720877208
actually I do as I follow antscanada since 2000 subs..

some ants species still breed tho you fucking faggot, if you even read what you posted, you would know this.

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>>720877088
it's very sad. the fact is that red states are the socialists or "commies" as they so eloquently put it.

>>720877046
Did you know that
Not just cash determines value?
In real estate, investment, agriculture, just about everything, California is worth more than some flyover state

>>720876570
>sure kid.

Wow way to debate. Or better yet way to insult someone. Calling someone a kid is such a fucking cool thing to do on the Internet. Yeah I'm sure all the 14 year olds are really into conservatism these days. In fact, I'm a tiny minority being 26 and actually being a conservative in today's day and age, I either must be fucking crazy or actually see straight and think for myself. I pride myself on not being brainwashed.

And for the record I do not support trump at all. I voted for him because of the alternative, but he represents a bare minimum of the ideals that I believe are most important for society.

Learn to think for yourself, do you own research, and stop being spoon-fed the liberal garbage the media and universities want you to believe. Yeah I know it's too much work but you can do it buddy I believe in you.

>>720877707
yawn.

>>720877477
he said agriculture not vineyards, nuts, and grass

flyover states are trash. filth.

so are the animals that live there. they try so hard to be relevant.

/thread

>>720877665
i know.
when you say "breed like ants",
it makes it sound like they reproduce in the way that is characteristic of ants.

Imagining that made me laugh.
:L

>>720876083


If California leaves you should also consider what else would be leaving.

Apple Computer and HP are the two largest consumer electronics companies in the world.

Intel, AMD, and Nvida are the three largest Processors companies in the world.

McKesson is the largest pharma company in the world.

Alphabet Inc (which is Google, YouTube and the other google companies). Facebook (Instagram). The largest advertisers in the world.

Adobe Systems, Oracle, VMware, Symantec, Intuit, are among the largest software companies in the world.

The major media companies. Disney, Netflix, Warner Bros, Hulu and many others.

The entire country consumes Californian products.

>>720877682
Do you not know what the bread basket is?
>Not just cash determines value
You're right. The Midwest/South have a huge culture and history that California couldn't even compete with. The history here is fantastic. Not to mention the fact that the dollar can be stretched more here than Cali. Then there's the people, easily the best this country has to offer

>>720878232
for how quickly they have kids.. you'd think the spic grandma's where the worker spics, carrying and raising the brood until it was old enough to work on its own. lmao

>>720874550
This^

They have a different culture, different language, different ideas and different leanings. They are quite a bit different than us and yet we get along fine.

Your all just being over dramatic.

>>720876424


Rural America is largely subsidized by the wealth generated in urban areas. Rural industries are usually subsidized by the government with the biggest one being agriculture and the next one being aerospace/defense.

>>720878245
>implying they would all stay

>>720878466


They have stayed despite the higher taxes in California.

>>720866978
Texas here. We were going to stay Texas anyway but thanks for the support

>>720878604
If California became its own country with someone, say Bernie Sanders, becoming its leader, then I wouldn't doubt many corporations would leave California to go to the US because it would benefit them greatly. Look at what's happening to Ireland; a lot of corporations are moving there because its more business friendly.

>>720876172
New England and Pennsylvania down to Atlanta. The East coast is a shit hole

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I'd actually support #CalExit

I'm not even a liberal but these edgy conservatives are annoying as fuck

>>720876180
Austin isn't Texas. It's it's own shitty island of crap.

>>720878789


Bernie Sanders is an east coast leftist. Very different from the CA culture. The biggest push to leave the US is coming from Silicon Valley.

>>720871085
No they are just educated and not inbred like trump supporters.
And no that didn't change looking at the maps, just a lot more inbreds stopped fucking their sisters for 5 mins and went and voted.

>>720878245
if WA state goes with them

boeing
microsoft
amazon
costco
starbucks

>>720878914


A shitty Island of investment. Its where companies are relocating.

>>720878899
they are going to have to fight the union for it then... like the rest of us had too. [referring to "us" as in the south, even tho we lost, thats the chances you take with war.]

plus to kill some liberal fucking yuppies? SIGN ME UP.

>>720879005
And yet some of Bernie's most loyal supporters were from California. They all believe in the same socialist, wealth distribution bullshit that Bernie projects.

>>720871578
And how is that a bad thing when those 5 cities are the majority of the population and are much more educated?

>>720877677


The best Troll legislation would be for all of the federal taxes that are collected in California from individual and corporate income taxes to be spent in California.

It would be a shot in the arm worth tens of billions of revenue overnight.

>>720879005
cheeto hitler's new punitive measures coming this week against Silicon Valley and the entire tech industry, will only further push the west coast away.

>>720865669
United we stand, divided we fall.

>>720879137


The South never pushed for a congressional path for leaving the union and unilaterally left and then fired the first shots of the war.

>>720866154
you forgot about burning alaska

>>720879085
Not as fast as Houston or San Antonio. Crappy companies. Low paying coffee companies.

>>720879187
Shit b8

>>720865669
I sit in sad repose as I put pen to paper concerning an issue I find most deeply disturbing. If you disagree with my claim that besides being absolutely offensive and abusive, Pres. Donald J Trump's anecdotes are seriously defamatory, then read no further. Given Pres. Trump's record of shady dealings, we can say that his perversions have experienced a considerable amount of evolution (or perhaps more accurately, genetic drift) over the past few weeks. They used to be simply disorganized. Now, not only are they both unimaginative and lewd, but they also serve as unequivocal proof that it has been brought to my attention that anyone who believes that those of us who oppose Pres. Trump would rather run than fight is kidding himself. While this is true, Pres. Trump's subordinates aver that Pres. Trump's blessing is the equivalent of a papal imprimatur. This is precisely the non-equation that Pres. Trump is trying to patch together. What he's missing, as usual, is that his perspective is that education and open-mindedness are some kind of liability. My perspective, in contrast, is that we ought to secure livelihoods and a better world for all generations. That'll make Pres. Trump think once—I would have said “twice”, but I don't see any indication that he has previously given any thought to the matter—before using organized violence to suppress opposition.
Every time Pres. Trump utters or writes a statement that supports narcissism—even indirectly—it sends a message that honor counts for nothing.

>>720879187
>much more educated
Funny how they don't realize why people voted for Trump then? Or how agriculture works.

>>720879321
you would fire too, if some nigger lovers tried to take your niggers away.. you paid fucking good money for those niggers.

now look what we got? a fucking infestation.

>>720872399
Civil process. Discussion of ideas... but Trumpers literally call any argument fake because "Fake News" so not much to do.

>>720879416
Relative to just a few years ago, ultra-scabrous storytellers are nearly ten times as likely to believe that Pres. Trump answers to no one. This is neither a coincidence nor simply a sign of the times. Rather, it reflects a sophisticated, psychological warfare program designed by Pres. Trump to defy the law of the land. To fill children's credulous ears with his quisquiliary deblaterations is an injustice. He once wrote a document whose sole purpose was to argue that arriving at a true state of comprehension is too difficult and/or time-consuming. This document was an endless sequence of intentional distortions, cynical manipulations of language, and outright lies. It served no purpose other to get people thinking about how you should check out some of the things Pres. Trump is saying about particularism. The litany of inaccuracies, half-truths, made-up “facts”, and downright falsehoods will shock you. And I won't even bother mentioning that Pres. Trump has no discernible talents. The only things he has definitely mastered are biological functions. Well, I suppose Pres. Trump is also good at convincing people that totalism is a be-all, end-all system that should be forcefully imposed upon us, but my point is that this is just simple math. That is, if A is more ruthless than B, and B is more ruthless than C, then A is more ruthless than C, right? In case you don't have the secret decoder ring, A is an inarticulate pillock; B is a homicidal, juvenile git; and C is Donald J Trump.
Pres. Trump ignores the most basic ground rule of debate. in our backside within a short period of time.

>>720879187
I have only met one successful liberal....other then an actor. And he is the embodiment of white privilege

>>720866154
>Those out majority of farmland
>Keeps overpopulated cities
Have fun starving to deah

>>720879222
kek love it

and it's only fair tbh

>>720879490
but when all the main stream news is fake, makes up stories and skews the truth..

looks like a pig, smells like a pig, in your logic, its a common house cat....

>>720874550
Reverence for your country and patriotism is a disease.

>>720867662
>Bigly
Argument invalid/10

>>720879731
you should be shot.

do you have children?

>>720879541
coasts import their food.

retard.

>>720879541
we will eat the blacks

>>720879843
Oh look another angry liberal threatening other peoples lives out of desperation...

REFER TO THIS ANONS POST.
>>720873178

>also can't shoot me, you gave up all your scary guns already...

>>720867586
pls pls pls pls pls

>>720867852
This isn't a cringe thread kid.

I want California to become it's own country already. We are sick of the rest of stupid white inbreds. Seems like only Cali has some common fucking sense.

>>720879733
>go to Mexico and have a time out.

He warned you. Now you gotta go

>>720879932
>Implying that blàcks would cannibalise you all first
Have fun in Africa 2.0

>>720867294
Just like now, Mississippi Lake and Selma Lake a worthless gashes on the landscape.

>>720879442
I'm sure a lot do. With the money they make they can just buy the goods they need.

>>720879540
As soon as you said white privilege your opinion was invalid.

>>720867852
It's filled with spoiled sheltered white kids,yes.

>>720871114
>can't defend point

>resorts to insults

>>720880376
>With the money they make
You mean the money they need to pay for a much higher cost of living from useless regulations?

>>720868808
Your moms ass