>yfw he's been keeping his promises >yfw he's

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>>720814870
Oh did he finally put Hilary in prison?

>>720815035
What's there to bait? He has been keeping his promises.

He has already started he process to build the wall.
He's banning Muslim based countries from entering the U.S. (only one's that have high threats, it's not EVERY Muslim country.)

And I'm sure he's going to get Hillary in prison too.

>>720814870

>people dont like that

Like what? Majority of americans agree with his mudslime ban

In politics, that's the way to go. You can't be honest because it puts you in danger.

>>720815285
He told the people what he will do for us and he's doing it. That's not putting him in danger. He's not being sneaky or doing anything bad.

>>720815436
>he's not being sneaky
That's what they want you to think .

>>720814870
Doing what he said doesn't make his politics acceptable.

>>720814870
Ban itself is to broad. If they were more specific & not putting a lock on visa & green cards it would be better. Would people still be freaking the fuck out? Yes! Though it doesn't excuse the complete drop of all traveling.

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>>720815269

maybe because the majority of americans have
a very simple worldview and this populist is feeding them a scapegoat minority to project their discontent onto. thats how he got into power.

last time somebody had a lot of success doing this resulted in the second world war, leaving 80 million people dead, germany destroyed and divided for 40 years.

>>720814870
>keeping his promises
>DRAIN THE SWAMP!
Kek

>>720814870
Yeah, that's why Hillary is in jail and he's appointed a cabinet of competent, level headed, altruistic individuals, and not his personal friends and political allies.

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>>720814870
Only a couple things left to do and we will be full blown fascists. Who wants to man the gas chambers.

Telling people you're an asshole doesn't mean you aren't still an asshole.

>>720816955
>rampant sexism
>corporate power protected
>rampant cronyism
>fraudulant elections

Okay, I'm assuming this is to warn that America is going the way of Germany in the 1930's and 40's, but Nazi Germany was actually very egalitarian, populist, and socialist.

The rest make sense, but those four are just tacked on by liberals who don't know history. Or possibly conservatives who DO, but I think if that's the case they're taking the wrong lesson.

>>72081653472
Troll

>>720816534

>trump is Hitler

the child's guide to political discussion, I would gladly explain all the ways Hitler, Germany and WW3 are different from now but I doubt you have the historical or philosophical background to really get it.

So, in short, Trump is not Hitler. Grow up

>>720816955
>implying half those things have anything to do with Fascism
>Implying the US doesn't have incredible Human rights and sexual equality
>implying we haven't already had pseudo-fascism since FDR

Libbies love tossing the term fascist around because it's the only thing that sends blood to their genitals besides letting their girlfriend suck strange dick.

Damn i didnt even know they arrested hillary

>>720817595
it's all over the news. She's sentenced to 50 yrs hard labor.

>>720817595
>>720815142

>has already fulfilled many campaign promises in 10 days

>hur dur why hasnt he wasted time and political capitol prosecuting a political opponent whos career is already over and can only really damage him and his party in public perception

Libs are such garbage.

how do you come to the conclusion, that i don´t have enough historical or philosophical background to understand your explainations?

i am german, i grew up in a divided country, that is still suffering from the aftermath of world war two. my grandfather was a p.o.w. in stalingrad, my fathers family had to flee czechia when the partisans ran over his village after the war.

that was a different time and trump is a different person.
but some of his tactics are similar, that why i think you can compare the two.

>>720816831
Putting corrupt well connected politicians in jail isn't easy. Plus we need to cut spending in more areas of government than ever. Drain the swamp means get rid of the people in government stealing money from the people and not doing thier job. There are lots of those types in position to steal from the people hope he guys these bloated bureaucratic parasites. It's been very very long over due.

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>>720814870
>he's been keeping his promises

all he's doing is fucking starting ww3. stock market took a big dive today due to all of his anti islamic blocking bullshit.

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>>720818221
So what's it like up in there anon?

>>720817882
Nah, just usually act or are under thirty. They don't have the ability to really see the consequences of actions (obviously) and that just because they think something doesn't mean it's gospel (irony).

It is how it always was and will always be, luckily they seem to have shrunk back down to a tolerable lot that is good for laughing at after a 'debate' and watching as riot porn to angsty punxrox.

>>720818153
His tactics are similar only in that they are political and populist tactics

The biggest deal is the idea of ethnic vs civic nationalism

The states of Europe are ethnic states, French live in France, Britts live in Brittin, Germans live in Germany etc. (in b4 exceptions, yes I know there are small enclaves etc.)

So to be a nationalist German, its not just putting the German state first, but its putting the German ethnicity first. And that is the philosophical point at which Nazism had its fatal flaw (in my opinion).

You also have a few other things, like Hitler (and many Germans) rightful anger towards the European powers for literally screwing them after the great war.

Sending them into desperate poverty, taking away their lands and generally forcing the Germans into a third world country. They were angrry, not like in the USA today. Actual real desire for revenge and reconquest to the point that hitler was in Jail for years for trying to overthrow the German state and he wrote a book while in Jail talking about how the Zionist Jews and Bolsheviks had sold Germany out and they are what caused all of these problems.

And it was a best seller.

The meme that Hitler was just a good old guy that tricked Germany into what happened is not true. They knew exactly what Hitler was and they wanted it.

That's why it took us literally bombing the entire country and killing 1/8th of the population before the Germans gave up thats why they werent allowed to re-unify because it wasnt just Hitler it was Germany too, and the average German citizen.

Trump does not blame our economic trouble on Muslims, Trump and his supporters dont go around rounding up "undesirables"

Trump is not advocating for the overthrow of our government and the annexation of "rightful American Lands"

Trump is not Hitler in the slightest

>>720814870
While I thought both Trump and Hillary were shit, its really refreshing to see someone fulfill so many of their promises. Even if Trump turns out to be bad, he's sent a message by not being a corporate shill like Hillary, and by doing what people voted for. Hopefully this opens the door for even better presidents in the future.

>>720818763
You beat me to saying that, thanks anon

>>720818924

you´re welcome.

i´d be delighted to hear from you how it isn´t an alarming and dangerous situation, that a populist is getting into power by using a scapegoat minority for people to project their discontent onto.

the root of the economic problems america and a lot of other western countries are facing nowadays is the development that global turbocapitalism has taken the last 20 years. the decay of the middle class by outsourcing all production labor to asia in order to generate more divident for the stock holders for instance.

how can any nationalist policy be economically successful in the long run in an age of globalism?

>>720819813
>using a scapegoat minority for people to project their discontent onto.

They arent though, If the Jews of Europe had a historic and measurable subset within their religion that was constantly bombing and killing innocents for not being Jews would Hitler have been wrong for stopping it?

Muslims arent being scapegoated either, Nobody is claiming that Muslims have caused Americas decline, its an inaccurate comparison

>>720820054
Muslims and Mexicans are very unpopular minorities among Trump supporters, aren´t they? Blaming them for americas issues gave his campaign quite some monentum, i think.

you didn´t answer any of my questions though.

>>720815269
>wasn't a muslim ban tho

>>720816534
>that pic

I remember seeing it in a Holocaust museum. Then later it was proven to be edited.

>>720820603
the point i was trying to make here, is that war is no fun. i don´t think that this picture has been edited, but it doesn´t matter.

we got to have peace.

>>720820418
Muslims have an active and dangerous subset of MILLIONS that are an actual violent threat.

Thats not a scapegoat thats a reason, a legit reason

2. Mexicans arent being blamed, illegal immigrants are, and illegal immigrants are in a large part Mexicans. But at no point has anyone blamed Mexicans or Hispanics by the very nature of them being Hispanic

and maybe if you are a small country you need the global community to survive but when you are the largest econemy in the world we can make others play ball with us.

Given the last 30 years globalism is great for the very rich, and for Asian nations, but generally bad for the average American. Over a long period of time completely open free trade would result in a better world, but I dont feel like suffering through the transition, and living a lower quality of life so people Ill never meet in India can have a few extra Rupees a day.

will nationalist policies work? IDK I guess we will all find out, what do we have to lose?

>>720821151
>Muslims have an active and dangerous subset of MILLIONS that are an actual violent threat.

please explain. immigrant muslim workers from turkey have been coming to germany since 1960. some of them are better integrated in our society than others and the chances to gain access to quality education for them aren´t the same for them. in some areas that led to the forming of a parallel society, but apart from that we have been getting along fine.

how are muslims a threat in general?
i don´t feel threatend at all by my turkish neighbours.

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>>720822150
>my anecdotes counteract reality

while still uncommon there is far greater support tor violence and other oppressive measures within the Muslim community world wide.

Turks are relatively mild by comparison overall, and you will notice we dont have any restrictions on turks at all.

go take a look at pic related study

Quite eye opening. or read the Quran yourself if you want to know why there seems to be a violent streak in Islam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpy7R2MM6ng

>>720816534
but you DO know that hitler was from left-wing? He was leader of social-democratic party. Just a friendly reminder

>>720814870
a president that thinks before he talks and acts would be better. Not boasting about himself all the time would also be a plus

>>720822658

can we agree that exteme religious ideologies are bullshit by definition no matter whether they´re muslim, chistian, jewish or anything else? most of the people that follow a religion were born into it. it´s more of a cultural thing.

if so, then you don´t have the right to generalise and stigmatize everybody that follows this belief.

am i wrong?

>>720822959
that doesn´t matter. he was a populist controlling the masses with simplistic answers to much more complex problems. same shit is happening today.

>>720823327
its not generalizing or stigmatizing, and if there was the same level of violence or threats fo oppression coming out of modern Christianity or any other religious group I would agree

But here we are in today, in this very time period we call the present, and the problem isnt generic religious extremism, we have a problem with Islamic extremism in particular.

so yes, you are wrong.

>>720822959
>hitler was left wing
>also hitler did nothing wrong
stormderper logic

>>720818166
prezniting iz hard

>>720823082
He thought about what he said and he did it.

>>720823529

Isis is claiming that the west is leading a war against islam, thats how they recruit new members. Trump is kind of confirming them.

i still don´t see how islam is a violent thing in general.

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>>720823956
Islam is violent because there is a large portion of the Muslim community that adheres to some of the extreme measures within the Quran that urges its followers to unite the people under the book to bow to Muhammed.

this has led to constant warfare for roughly 1400 years.

>inb4 all religions can be violent

yes they can, but only Islam is right now. If Christians were the ones bombing and conquering I would not be a fan of Christians.

>>720824368
i´m sorry, but thats anti muslim propaganda and it is not coherent with reality. not over here in germany, for all i can tell.

not the past 50 years, not now.

>>720818221
>Stock market took a big dive today

Dow Jones Industrial Average
INDEXDJX: .DJI - 30 Jan., 4:36 pm GMT-5
19,971.13Price decrease122.65 (0.61%)

Still higher than it has been for a single day that obama was in control. Keep only looking at the headlines kiddo.

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>>720824954

Yes when has that happened in Germany

>>720814870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKEz7_TlTZA