Hey I'm a Trump support. I am not racist, sexist... blah

>>720731039
I'm with you. Wanting to protect our citizens should be a priority. Why are people so concerned about refugees when there are US veterans here living on the street?

>>720731039
>until we have better means of vetting them

Better in what way? What's wrong with the system that's currently in place? I'm genuinely curious because I keep hearing lines like this from Trump supporters, but I'm not aware of the specific deficiencies in our immigration and customs procedures for people entering the country.

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Hell yeah MAGA!!

>>720731039
>until we have better means for vetting them
You do know America has one of the toughest vetting systems already in place, right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/america-already-uses-strict-refugee-vetting-here-are-the-facts/2016/10/20/7988a1a8-9185-11e6-9c52-0b10449e33c4_story.html

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/11/20/infographic-screening-process-refugee-entry-united-states

>>720731855
how do you suppose all the illegals got here in the first place? That alone tells me there's something wrong with the system if people are able to slip through the cracks.

>>720732436
That doesn't really answer my question.

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>>720731039
I know that Trump and some of his supporters aren't racist, they just have different ideologies.

However, I do feel that a large amount of voters are lowkey racist and getting rid of muslims and mexicans sounded most appealing.

>>720732746
i know, I'm not OP (the one you asked).

>>720732237
something tells me that the shitpost article fails to mention the fact that we have been using a religious test since 1986. just guessing though. i ain't clicking that shit

>>720731039

So curious how the apostrophe completely changes the meaning of the slogan.

Fuck Trump, though. Fuck him all the way to hell, and all his supporters. Ignorant fuckwads, all of them.

>>720731039
>I'm a Trump support. I am not racist, sexist
>Trump support
>not racist, sexist

kek

>>720731039

Trump is best. Greetings from a Trump supporter of cucked germany.

>>720733306
>kek
you think that literally EVERYONE who supported Trump is racist/sexist?

>>720731518
US vets have plenty of resources at their disposal if they were honorably discharged. I'm tired of that lame argument.

He didnt block immigration from countries that produce terrorists.

>>720731039
You know what you don't support?
Basic facts.

There has never been a terrorist attack on U.S soil from someone that has connections to any of the places that were put on the banned list. Also notice he didn't clamp down on places where he have money invested.

Hope you enjoy paying taxes on the wall. We all know Mexico isn't.

>>720733134
>Shitpost article.
>Doesn't even read it.

You are the problem.

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>>720731039
Enjoy paying for that wall amerifats, most illegals came/come with a visa and just never come back

You're gonna pay billions of dollars to stop 20 mexicans a month from coming over and washing dishes

>>720732746
You're right. The ban should've been much more extensive. The terrorist attacks we've had since 9/11 have been committed by refugees or immigrants from countries not covered by this action.

>>720733491
Like the VA hospital system?

>>720731039
These kinds of opinions are based on deception. The truth is that the terrorist groups are all the products of American intelligence agencies who radicalized, trained, funded, and armed these groups to create an enemy to create a problem with an already planned solution. False flag terrorism. It's all for the goals of social control, curbing civil right and civil liberties, to gain more power over the population, and ultimately totalitarian world government. These are agents of the government doing these attacks and to act like it's not the government doing these false flag terrorist attacks is being misled by lies. This is all for the Zionist agenda. The same people responsible for false flag Islamic terrorism are responsible for the invention and propagation of Communism, same people who invented atheism, same people that supported Hitler to gain power (Bush senior and Co. guided by American Zionists), same people who pushed secularism, same people who push every destructive "ism" are the Ashkenazi Zionists. All the enemies are created by the Zionist element. It's the government, stupid. (Ashkenazi Zionists)

>>720732746
>Thinking a Trump supporter will actually sensibly answer this.

>>720733979
>most illegals came/come with a visa
sounds legit.

>>720733979
Oh look its eurotrash trying to be relevant! Poor eurotrash, too bad you aren't more concerned about the sand niggers raping what's left of the "women" in your shithole country

>>720731039
1 week in office and the world is ending. Sounds like the factory of fear is in high gear from the establishment

>>720731039
He seems to love Saudi Arabia even more than Hillary does. Strange, since they sent us 15 of the 19 hijackers responsible for 9/11, with Egypt providing 2 of the remaining 4.

>>720734507
Ameritrash. Same old same old.

Always thinking with your fat greasy pride instead of your brain.

>>720734193
Most of them have, others have been committed by American citizens with motives other than Islamic extremism.

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>>720734497
It is legit though. Most of illegals entered the country legally (via plane) and just never left.

Border crossing stopped being a thing in the early 2000s. I'd estimate less than 400 mexicans are coming in through the border a year, and most of them find it hard to assimilate so they return shortly after.

The mexicans that are here are a different issue, they've been here since the 70s, 80s, 90s. Some of them are legal now, they all have U.S. citizen kids.

A border wall is useless but keep trying to be edgy. Cartels will always find a way in regardless.

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>>720734417
Jesus, you've actually managed to out-retard a thread full of Trump supporters. I'm impressed.

>>720734497
They get temporary work visas then just don't go back when their time runs out.

tl;dr Your 20 billion dollar wall will solve nothing.

>>720735255
You obviously never read Wikileaks. I bet you've never read a whole book before in your life, like Trump.

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>>720734417
>Invented atheism

>>720735250
If we assume that extremist organizations are, in fact, trying to send their agents into our country disguised as refugees or legitimate immigrants, and that the increased security measures proposed by the Trump administration would be successful in stopping them from reaching our country, wouldn't that just lead these organizations to change their tactics in response? Maybe using the Internet to radicalize people who are already in the US, citizens or otherwise? It just seems like whatever measures we implement, it's not really attacking the root of the problem.

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>>720731039
I don't care if you are a racist. For me, immigration on the scale we've seen isn't about whether these migrants are good people, tax payers or security threats. It's about Cultural preservation. We shouldn't have to prove how much we don't hate other races by having them live next door to us!
Extreme vetting process or not, we should just be able to kick out any brown or black thing that we don't like the look of.

>>720735370
You bet wrong. Sorry if that upsets you.

>>720735712
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

>>720731039
No offense OP but you have to be pretty fucktarded to think trump isn't racist or even sexist.

>>720736025
What's the problem if he is racist?

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>>720731039
The ban on "Muslims" has nothing to do with Muslims. But go ahead and tell yourself you're supporting a guy who has America's interest at heart.

>>720736342
>yfw Obama did exactly the same thing in 2013
You've been played by man

>>720736496
Nope. This meme is getting passed around by the redhat set, and of course it's flatly false. I'd ask you to link to what Obama did and how it was exactly the same thing, but redhatters don't provide evidence. Since they reject the concept of evidence in the first place.

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>>720736772
>flatly false
Your memory is so poor. Either that or your about 18 or 19, and didn't even have the slightest interest in politics. Obama did the exact same ban in 2013, whether you like it or not.

>>720736025
funny... cause i feel the opposite. I mean, criticize him all you want! He's a politician, he's a loudmouth, an asshole, I wouldnt want to have a beer with him! And he needs to be held accountable for his actions! But the moment I hear someone boil it all down to "He's just racist" I know that they're a special kind of stupid. That's called "identity politics" and its a regressive view. I mean, MAYBE, Trump sits alone at night and thinks "I hate those brown people so much!", but theres a pretty long list of reasons to be anti-muslim/illegal immigrant before you need get to "because theyre subhumans who are all inherently less than white people". Ironically... its kind of racist that liberals assume everything falls back on race. Most conservatives really dont care that much about color, so much as tangible trends within a group of people (ie, illegals and muslims, neither of which constitutes and entire race). Trump critcs would do themselves a favor by forgetting about race entirely and focusing on TANGIBLE reasons for his policies to fail.

>>720734860
We don't really give a fuck about yuropoors who live in countries smaller than our states. Hush.

>>720737237
More land for euro when America falls.

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>mfw reddit's front page has had no less than two trump stories filled with circle-jerking comments at any given time since inauguration day

>>720733491
Kill yourself faggot.

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>>720733491
>US vets have plenty of resources
you think

Why do I have to hate Muslims again? I just don't want them to live in my country. This is much the same for Africans and Asians.
In regards to muslims, I want them to prosper and I want them to live out peaceful days in countries that were built on Islamic principles. I have no problem with this. Why do I have to be a hateful racist for wishing this?

>>720733491
What an idiot holy shit

>>720737158

Hard to deny that he's racist when he repeatedly retweeted white supremicists, nevermind the role he's given to steve bannon.

>>720738070
Does being a racist make his opinions wrong? If '2+2=4' was labelled a racist and hate filled comment would that make it wrong?

>>720736965
You still haven't cited a source. Nice try with the ridicule, but that's not acceptable as proof.

>>720737158
>Most conservatives really dont care that much about color

I live in the deep south so maybe that's part of it, but I've never met a republican who didn't use the N word at least once around me.

>>720738184

Nice backpedaling. It certainly makes OP wrong when he says trump isn't racist.

>>720731518
You are aware Trump put out an executive order to halt all new hires to the VA right?

You are aware Trump just replaced the highest ranking military official with a fuckhead, brietbart chairman?

There is no argument for Trump and his policies to be made using veterans or the military. He couldnt give less of a shit about any of it.

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>>720736772
Obama did the same ban on 4 of the 7 countries. It was a non-issue, most of the news media did not even report on it, now suddenly the liberal media blow it up so big.

>>720738629

He's also a draft dodger. When his country called on him to serve he pretended he had an ankle problem.

>>720737525
Back to back World War champs. You ain't shit.

>>720734193
>ban Saudi immigrants.

yea, that'll ever happen.

>>720738192
>living through the period of 2013 wasn't enough for you
Watch this and have your opinion challenged from time to time. You might actually gain some insight into why Trump won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OVnqerWUHg

The real reason he ran for president: to pay his MASSIVE debts
He doesn't pay taxes remember?.

Trump’s Immigration Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-immigration-ban-conflict-of-interest/


Donald Trump's businesses owe $1.8bn to more than 150 different institutions, new study suggests

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-businesses-owe-debt-18-billion-150-institutions-study-source-of-study-president-elect-a7512586.html

>>720738184
>If '2+2=4' was labelled a racist and hate filled comment would that make it wrong?
Of course not. But it's such a stupid comparison to begin with that it pretty much marks you as a fool.
Being a racist means yes, he's wrong. America's system of governing and immigration was *designed* to accept everyone. A President swears an oath to protect *everyone*. If you're a racist, you've got only the interests of a select segment at heart. He would then be going against his oath.

>>720738545
>I agree with OP 100%
That's the thing. I don't.

>>720736099
civil rights. go back to bed

>>720738905

You can't even stay on topic. "Hey look over there..."

>>720738249
That doesn't mean they care about skin color. Context matters.

Obviously if it's meant in a "all black people are animals" kind of way then yeah.

Simply saying a naughty word means jackshit.

>>720734417
How did you write all this in your dark basement wearing sunglasses?

>>720731039
You are clearly retarded just on the basis of your grammar.

>>720737689
>better ignore the staggering amount of information Trump is a fuckhead.

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>>720738882
>America's system of governing and immigration was *designed* to accept everyone.
Wrong. Immigration before 1965 was designed to only allow Europeans in. Which is the way it should go back to.
And no, being a racist doesn't mark you as wrong. Racism is just a defined form of discrimination, and I can discriminate against whoever I want.

>>720735820
>>720731039
Ausfalian here. All those pussy eurocuck countries give us shit for our border control, but at the end of the day we're not being overrun by illegals raping our women on the street. I think the temporary ban is reasonable in assessing the criteria for entry into the US, which is a very high profile target for terrorists.
>>720737862
Also, i agree. If i go to saudi arabia they are not going to accomodate my beliefs, they will expect me to comply with theirs, but we are told we have to not only welcome them but them allow them to do whatever the fuck they want in the name of acceptance, if islam is such a great religion then why do their countries all suck so much shit (the only wealthy ones are the parasites who can pipe up oil)

>>720738712
It's red team vs blue team. No matter how much modern day liberals will tell you otherwise, no matter how much "stronger together", "he will not divide us" garbage they spew, all of their actions betray their true beliefs.

>>720738958
>Civil Rights
>Civil Rights were written by humans
You can write on paper that it's a fundamental right for everyone to own their own private jet but that doesn't make it logically correct.

>>720739090
Except that's complete nonsense.

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>>720739283
The only people who say this is unreasonable are the indoctrinated masses who live amongst other Europeans, and have never actually lived within another culture.

>>720737792
Pussy vets should man up and quit doing smack. Damn right they have resources. Just not if they shoot smack.

>>720738029
How so? Disprove him or go back to bobbing in your fathers tiny cock.

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>>720739418
This is why right-wing governments are murder machines who murder their own populations. Right-wing governments are so murderous that they will even kill citizens of their own homogeneous ethnostates. They'll always find characteristics of the people to use and justify their mass murder. Right-wing governments will even kill people just for economic reasons.

Show me a successful right-wing government that exists right now.
>protip: you can't

>>720739418
Youre no longer allowed to use the word 'logic' cause that was the worst argument Ive ever heard.

retarded fucks like you no longer have the right

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>>720740179
It's always liberal democracies that are the savior for homelands.

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>>720740179
>successful right-wing government that exists right now
Singapore

>>720739690
Excellent refutation dipshit.

>>720740216
>I don't actually have an argument so I'm going to straight out abuse you

>>720740179
>This is why right-wing governments are murder machines who murder their own populations

Hmm, that sounds a lot like the Soviet Union...

>>720740639
That's center-right though, it's closer to moderate.

>>720740848
Soviet Union wasn't a liberal democracy.

Lol... Americans fighting over skin colour instead of the fact their own government is a pawn now.

Too bad none of you seem to give a shit about your own Constitution and you are all too busy trying to just be the whitest kid on the block. Slavs are teabagging you right now and you just want to build a wall against one of your largest trading partners.

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>>720740179
The doublethink is real

>>720740997
>Soviet Union wasn't a liberal democracy.

It also wasn't right wing.

Also, left-wing =/= liberal democracy

>>720738819
Holycrap. Normally I'd stop after chastising you for pointing to a YouTube hack as a credible source. So I did some checking on my own. I stand corrected.

Aside from Syria, no countries are named in Trump's EO. The "Countries of Particular Concern" (from which visas are suspended) were named by DHS during Obama's presidency.

>>720741131
>you just want to build a wall against one of your largest trading partners

... Which also so happens to be a massive shithole. Think of the wall as a strainer. Filters out their garbage, leaving the good stuff.

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>>720741131
>Lol... Americans fighting over skin colour instead of the fact their own government is a pawn now.

This. All liberals and conservatives are racist as shit but can't let it go. Each victimizes a different race. It's only holding us back severely.

Let the white man feed his family. Let the black man feed his family. Let the mexican man feed his family.

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>>720741234
But I'm not talking about far-left authoritarianism, I'm talking about the fact that there are no right-wing governments that are not without genocide.

>>720741233
>>720740639
Moderates, being center aligned is always the best thing, this happens in liberal democracies, that's why in Europe and America, Canada, there are no genocides anymore.

http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

>>720738792
You seem to forget half the world was fighting alongside America in both wars.

>America #1 we had no help whatsoever stopping Nazis.

Number of terrorists from the countries trump banned muslims from - 0. Number of terrorists from the 3 middle eastern countries trump does business with and excluded from the ban- over 2500. trumps muslim ban is hypocritical, amoral and self serving. His followers, to fucking stupid to realize what a self dealing fuck trump is blindly support him oblivious to the obvious double dealing. trump ban is all show and damaging to the country and his supporters are too fucking stupid for words.

>>720733979
You don't know wtf you are talking about. Worry about your own shit country, and we will deal with ours.

>>720741234
I heard a Norwegian refer to the Soviet Union as "Social Imperialism." I thought it fit.

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>>720741371
You get a thumbs up from me for finding out the truth.
Remember anon, most of the mainstream media are tarnished, they all said Trump wasn't going to win. They said he was a joke, they labelled all his supporters as stupid etc etc etc
However a lot of alternative sources out there were calling a Trump win since he started the run up in 2015. They knew he had a good team and there was a lot of intelligence behind him.
I strongly suggest you check out Stefan Molyneux. He is not a YouTube hack and yes, if you go back and find his older youTube videos you'll find out that he was calling a Trump win since the beginning.

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>>720735255
Now thats saying something holy shit....

>>720741608
Trump didn't pick the countries, lmao.

>>720742070
Really? It's trump's fucking order. How fucking stupid are you. Never mind. I didn't need to ask that. It was obvious from the beginning.

>>720741508
>that's why in Europe and America, Canada, there are no genocides anymore.
>equating the right wing with genocide
Let this meme die anon

>>720742070
Who read over it and signed it?

>>720741640
He has a great idea of what he's talking about. You really think Mexico is going to pay for that 15-20 BILLION DOLLAR wall? It's pretty fucking clear Americans will be footing the bill.

>"But anon, a 20% tariff will pay for the wall"

Fucking shit it will. Just watch Mexico jack the price up on everything it sends America to offset the cost of a 20% tariff.
Which translates to Americans paying more for goods. Tariffs didn't help during the Great Depression, and it's not going to help now.

>>720741595
And it's going to take more than half the world to take us out in modern times. Like I said, you ain't shit.

>>720731039
Europe was fucking up by refusing to vet their immigrants/refugees.

The ones that simply don't have enough records to vet should be deported, refused - simple as that.

The idea of allowing persecuted christians seems like a good idea, as there are no christian jihadists/suicide bombers

>>720741234
>Also, left-wing =/= liberal democracy
You're also wrong, leftism is how liberal democracies are built.
See:
>>720740179
>pic related

Notice the part about civil rights. It was the liberal democracy of America that eventually allowed civil rights. Civil rights are not as much valued in conservatism, that's why minorities in America since the beginning of their right to vote mostly supported liberals.

/pol/ wants to murder minorities as a political ideology, guess what political leaning they are? Mostly right-wing. /pol/ doesn't believe in equality of races, that's why they want to murder minorities as a political objective. Don't pretend like it's not true. These are right-wing values more than they are left-wing.

>>720742265
See:
>>720742445

>>720741508
Considering the definition of "right-wing" changes depending on who you're talking to, I find these declarations you're making to be largely worthless.

When the economy crashes and Americans are living in tent cities, I wonder if they'll be called "Trumpvilles" like they were called "Hoovervilles" during the Depression.

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>>720741508
>Europe and America, Canada
white genocide

>>720731855
>Better in what way? What's wrong with the system that's currently in place?

Too many refugees/immigrants signing up to join ISIS. Our economy is broke, we simply can't afford a flood of people that will refuse to assimilate or get jobs.

>>720742370
Not if you fucks start a civil war. Then Putin will invade you in order to "Restore order." Just like in Ukraine.

>>720742551
No one is forcing you to reproduce with someone of another ethnicity.

To say there is white genocide in the West is an insult to the people who were victims of genocide. Also, it sounds very whiny.

>>720742254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OVnqerWUHg&ab_channel=StefanMolyneux#t=1m24s

>>720735758

Build a big, dumb wall is all that Trumpsters can comprehend.

>>720742308
Him signing it into power has nothing to do with whether he picked the actual countries or not.

>>720742853
So if Trump isn't in charge then who is?

>>720731039
Trump is a fucking pussy. He doesn't go far enough. Yeah getting rid of the muslims and building a wall is a start. But we really need to round up all the niggers, spics and jews and gas them. Women have too much say in politics as well. We really need to make it to where only white men who own property can vote. Then and only then can this nation be great again.

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>>720731039

>>720742445
"leftism is how liberal democracies are built."

It's also how the Soviet Union was built.

You aren't getting out of this.

>>720742070
Yes he did and I have proof. Trump did pick the countries to ban himself.

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783/how-does-trumps-immigration-freeze-square-with-his-business-interests

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?utm_term=.d5ab52868743

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/opinion/who-hasnt-trump-banned-people-from-places-where-hes-made-money.html?_r=0

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-muslim-ban-excludes-countries-linked-businesses-article-1.2957956

>inb4 muh fake news

>>720742770
A you tube video? Dude, it's pretty simple. Countries banned: Terrorists 0, trump business dealings 0. Countries excepted: terrorists 2500+, trump business dealings many. It's not rocket science and if you can't see you've been had then you should just shoot yourself as a service to the human race.

>>720742853
If he didn't pick the countries, why counties that Trump has invested in somehow off this list? Like Saudi Arabia for example.

>>720742996
>make it so only white men with property can vote
>watch the U.S. become liberal as most conservatives are so poor they don't even own their own cars much less property

>>720743021
The Soviet Union was not a liberal democracy. What do you not understand about this?

>>720741920
>However a lot of alternative sources out there were calling a Trump win since he started the run up in 2015.

Hm. Keep in mind though, that this was when the DHS named the countries. With all the dealings that happen in politics, it is possible that Trump and DHS officials created this list in preparation for precisely his win and this EO, obviously prepared "a while" ago.

Furthermore even if Trump didn't win, at least the countries where he has dealings wouldn't be affected by the branding.

I'm not jumping on a Trump bandwagon yet..

>>720743092
In case no one will acknowledge what those links prove. Trump did not ban the countries that he has business ties with: Egypt, United Arab Emirates, Turkey.

Terrorists could come from those three countries, which proves the ban is not about preventing terrorists from coming in. It's to keep brown people from coming in as much.

>>720742711
And Russia will fall in the process. They're too damn broke to take down the US, even divided. I don't think you understand how big of a country the US is population wise. It's simply a matter of them being overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

Trump is using plays out of Putin's play book. Don't expect anything extreme like Political killings, but we're already at the hardcore propaganda stage.

>>720731039
i agree.
people are overreacting, last time i checked, there hasn't been single terrorist attack on US soil since the start of 2017.

>>720743092
Non-partisan here.
Please follow this subthread.
>>720741371

>>720742551
If fat whales on scooter will be replaced by gold eyed goddess like this, I'm all for ethnicity mixing

>>720742596
I mean from an organizational and structural standpoint, what exactly do we need to change in the system that's currently in place?

Also, what the fuck do you mean our economy is broke? Our GDP has been growing steadily since 2010.

>>720742934
Refer to my last comment.

>>720743577
You can work to reduce obesity rates in the U.S. and still have white people.

>>720743361
Right, it's just soooo easy. You put a AR-15 in the SJW hands that populate half the nation, and send them to war. We will definitely win.

>>720743175
It also wasn't RIGHT WING.

What do you not understand about this.

>>720731039
[spoiler]whatever[/spoiler]

>>720742853
That's fucking idiotic logic. His order, his picks. He excluded the ones he does business with. What's it like being a useful idiot without the capacity to think?

>>720743573
Ok, he mentioned how Trump did not ban the countries he has business ties with.

Also this, if no one mentioned it, the bans have adversely affected companies whose employees and/or their families must travel to those countries on the ban list. Google is one of them.


https://nypost.com/2017/01/28/google-tells-staffers-to-return-to-us-amid-immigration-ban/

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/29/14426896/muslim-ban-donald-trump-executive-order-immigration-travel-science

https://www.ft.com/content/3f8a537c-e5ca-11e6-893c-082c54a7f539


And here's why the balance of power/branches of government in America's liberal government works better:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban

it seems that Bernie Sander's first week in office went extremely well

>>720733524
Newsflash, dude. The Unites Snakes and Israel are the biggest terrorist states bar none.

>>720743092

This. You blind sheeple trumptards. Fuck you are in for a rude awakening.

"Um...uh, hey why am I being laid off. Cuz Trump said muh job stay heres."

You see, Gomer. You are an uneducated gimp. Your an expenditure. Disposable.

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>>720743812
Like I said, I'm not talking about left-wing authoritarian governments. I'm talking about right-wing governments, which always becomes tyranny. That's why there are no successful right-wing governments that don't have human rights abuses that exist today.

Stay on topic, we're talking about right-wing governments, not far-left governments. I'm talking about how liberal democracies promote civil rights more than any other government has proven to have.

>>720733450
Yeah, because Germans have a history of wisely choosing their leaders.

>>720744046
>And here's why the balance of power/branches of government in America's liberal 'democracy' works better:

http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-halts-trumps-immigration-ban

fixed

Direct democracy would be better, but maybe that could be evolved into in the future. Guess which partisans would want to keep direct democracy from happening? Better believe it's right-wingers who don't want direct democracy, because their value is to keep the status quo.

>>720743120
>>720743122

It's not on me to prove a negative. However, here's proof that the list was created under the Obama administration.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/01/29/news-bulletin-the-list-of-muslim-nations-in-trumps-socalled-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021

He will 9 to 5 US
Off your asses
Get a job
Please

>>720744222
Follow the thread you fucking mouthbreather.

Also, *You're

>>720744354
>Like I said, I'm not talking about left-wing authoritarian governments

You are talking about the left-wing vs right-wing. Those governments are part of the left wing.

>>720742445
>/pol/ want to murder minorities
>as part of a political ideology
Dude wot?
pol is a collection of fascists, neocons, libertarians, (((civil nationalists))) etc The point is there is no "one" ideology that pol subscribes too.
In regards to ethnicity, again, why are you saying I have to hate people? I don't hate anyone. I just don't want to live around them. As individuals most immigrants are tax payers, safe and fine but that doesn't mean I want to see and interact with them. I'm European, I want to live around other Europeans. I want my national culture to be a reflection of an admixture of Europeans.
There are successful nations such as Japan and Chinese Taipei that do subscribe to this tenant as a form of cultural and nationa building. Japan doesn't even want Chinese migrants for fear of cultural dilution.

I couldn't follow any of it either

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>>720731039

>>720744750
>Direct democracy would be better

As long as you're the wolf and not the sheep.

We're broke

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>>720743485
lol. i like your style

>>720743263
Jump on anon. It's pretty comfy.

>>720744830
The list is irrelevant. trump's order, trump's counties. How fucking desperate are you to deflect from that piece of shit you blindly follow like a lobotomized ant.

>>720745147
I'm talking about how liberal democracies promote civil rights, which is why genocide doesn't happen as much in them anymore.

>protip: reproduction is not genocide, it's quite the opposite
>a white genocide in the West does not exist because of the previous sentence in greentext

I'm talking about how left-wing vs right-wing politics in a liberal democracy allows for somewhat of a balance of power between both ideologies, and only because it's a liberal democracy, that's it's strength, that's what gives it stability.

>>720743430
Multi-billionaire and globalist bankers have owned and push left wing poltics through Americas mainstream media outlets. (George Soros for example personally funds CNN) And your here talking about the propoganda for Trump? Despite every news outlet being against him from the beginning. You massive idiot.

>>720743263
This isn't Oz. You're not Dorthy. But you are a trump useful idiot. How's it feel to have no brain.

>>720745921
All Trumplets can do is deflect when faced with criticism.

>>720738756
The war was illegal so he did the right thing dodging the draft.

>>720745836
I didn't vote for him you fucking retard. Just because you're getting BTFO for being objectively incorrect doesn't mean it's the meanie Trump supporters doing it. Kill yourself, holy shit.

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Dow breaks 20,000

>>720746093
>actually believing that providing an alternative opinion is deflecting
Your views have never been challenged have they? I bet you live in a bubble where everyone just blows smoke up your ass and gives you little handjobs for saying the right things.

Trump - accomplished more in two weeks than Obama did in 8 fucking years... amazing.

>>720744830
Actually, the countries Trump selected happened to overlap with countries that were part of Visa Wavier Program restrictions that were signed by Obama years ago. This piece of legislation was NOT a travel ban and only restricted immigration in the sense that people from those countries needed a visa to get in when previously they did not.

Just another shitty article from a right-wing rag.

>>720731039
> I am not racist, sexist...
And why not OP? I think you need to first fix being such a pussy.

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>>720746469
I know. It's beautiful. 7 years and 50 weeks to go.

>>720745899
And what you don't seem to understand is that your definitions of what is "liberal" or "left-wing" or "right-wing" are entirely dependent on the timeframe. Positions that may have been considered "liberal" or "left-wing" 50 or 100 years ago may be considered right wing today, and vice versa.

>>720745284
> I'm European, I want to live around other Europeans. I want my national culture to be a reflection of an admixture of Europeans.

Shouldn't have colonized everywhere else and exploited everyone else. What's worse is that it happened all in the name of Christianity, in complete blasphemy of the teachings of it. Statements like this are bratty, whiny.

Sins of the father.

>>720746266
I'm not being objectively incorrect. Obama's actions or inaction is irrelevant to trumps order. trump's order, trump's countries, trump owns it. So STFU and STFD.

>>720746006
You didn't even read his comment did you? God, you're fucking pathetic, lmao.

>>720744046
what would look worse trump does buisness with countries he assumes to be terrorist hot beds or trump doesn't do buisness with countries he deems too dangerous to have people from there coming here?

>>720743713
WE ARE TRILLIONS OF DEBT

>>720746966
See:
>>720743092

>>720746933
Your entire argument was that Trump specifically made this order and didn't pick any countries he doesn't have business dealings with. I pointed out that you're full of shit, and now you're having a temper tantrum. Get fucked nerd.

>>720746966
See:
>>720743330

>>720732922
>lowkey

get the fuck out you filthy nigger.

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>>720746898
>historical revisionism of the worst kind
Go ask the Japanese if they're willing to accept Chinese immigrants after their "Rising Sun" stint in ww2.
But good for you for genuinely believing that somehow conquering other lands means you hve to accept their native populous. Marxist propoganda.
Also when did Sweden colonialise other countries? Because they've accepted a few migrants. How's that working out for them?

As an outsider what impresses me about Trump is his apparent commitment to fulfilling the promises that won him the election. These actions are what your country decided it wants, and voted for. What exactly is the fucking problem?

>>720747257
7 countries banned: terrorists 0, business dealings 0. Countries not banned: terrorists 2500+ business dealings many. You get fucked because you're full of shit.

>>720747350
bandz in my pants glock in my hand

>>720746603
The most palitable omelets are made by cracking eggs (making lefties cry babies)

Canada would not take them... so fucking funny - as the bar was set pretty high for immigration into Canada, Australia

>>720733306
Generalizations like that are why you lost.

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>>720747359
Again, that sounds so whiny, arrogant, and selfish.

>Shouldn't have colonized everywhere else and exploited everyone else. What's worse is that it happened all in the name of Christianity, in complete blasphemy of the teachings of it. Statements like this are bratty, whiny.

>>720747359
>Also when did Sweden colonialise other countries? Because they've accepted a few migrants. How's that working out for them?


Swedish media has blocked the particulars about the rape rates there - refuses to acknowledge how rapey migrants are.

>>720747967
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_colonization_of_the_Americas

>>720747420
Your deflections are transparent, shit-skin.You've been shut down multiple times, it's time to stop posting and pray to Mecca now.

>>720747388
Because like any other politician, shit like the muslim ban is all for show.

He's going to be like every other popular shill that uses the political office to get influence and money.

Left, right or center; it's the taxpayers that pays the dues of the countries, not the politicians.

>>720747874
Jesus was talking about how Jews are to treat other jews. That speech had nothing to do with how they're to treat people of other religions/ethnicities.

Jesus was the apostle to the Jews, not others. Many people do not understand this really important fact.

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>>720747420
Mate if we banned Saudis from entering the country you'd whinge and complain about how were stereotyping and that not all Saudis are terrorists etc
And you know what? It's people like you who are to blame for Trump:
- Your sheer arrogance and stupidity.
- The constant historical revisionisms just to support your agenda.
- The constant whinging and complaining about racism, sexism, transphobia or whatever other rubbish you come up.
We voted against that, because we're sick of the utter shit you constantly whinge and complain about in daily life. I straight up don't care if Trump snorts crystal meth out of some hooked snatch and uploads it on to YouTube. I'll still vote fore him again.
You know why? Because I hate and detest everything about you. You and all the other indoctrinated masses of self proclaimed academics are to blame for this. So get fucked, fuck you and most importantly of all fuck off.

>>720747206
We ARE trillions of dollars in debt. And that's not really the big deal that some people make it out to be. First off, the United States has never missed a payment on its debt. Never. That's why we still have a pretty high credit rating and are able to continue borrowing even though, as you said, we're trillions of dollars in debt. Second, our public debt is dwarfed by our total assets (land value, economic assets, etc.) Third, it's not like holders of US public debt are going to call it in all at once (why would they? We've never missed a payment).

Point is, our public debt does not preclude us from taking in more immigrants and refugees.

>>720747874
>>720747874

"Neighbors" means fellow Jews. Nothing else, nothing more, nothing less.

>>720747874
Neighbor, in this context, meaning somebody within 100 yards of you. Not amorphous country "beings".

>>720733450
Is Germany too cucked to be saved?

Will it be the new middle east soon?

>>720748295
>And that's not really the big deal that some people make it out to be.


This is the stupidity that ravages the U.S. right now. "Debt is no big deal"....LOL

>>720747967
Sweden has a weird definition of rape, making it very easy to get charged with a rape. They widened the definition of rape, which is one of the main causes of the spikes in reported "rapes."

>>720748186
Throwing a temper tantrum to try and change the facts isn't working for trump and it's not working for you. And I don't give a fuck what you think of me. You're too god damned stupid to fucking give a care about. I give more thought to pond scum than trumptards like you.

>>720747874
You simply don't know what you're talking about. Empires have colonized other areas since the start of time.
Go look up the Armenian genocide. Look at what the Ottoma empire did there. You won't see the Turkish giving two shits about their past. And you know what? Neither should we.

>>720748295
When Obama entered office, we were 9 trillion in debt, now.... we're ONLY 17 trillion in debt. Lets take a bunch of muslims who will refuse to work, refuse to assimilate.

>>720748186
>I straight up don't care if Trump snorts crystal meth out of some hooked snatch and uploads it on to YouTube. I'll still vote fore him again.

Shit... I'd vote for him twice if he did that.

>>720748103
If this is the problem, that it's business as usual in the govt, then why does anyone give a shit

>>720748484
>Sweden has a weird definition of rape, making it very easy to get charged with a rape. They widened the definition of rape, which is one of the main causes of the spikes in reported "rapes."

Yes, but your obfuscation doesn't begin to describe the number of Muslims that are in Swedish prisons for actual rape though.

Lets just say "there is a cultural difference they're not used to"

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>>720748543
>throwing and temper tantrum
>what are the anti-Trump riots atm?
Your hypocrisy is right on show here for everyone to observe.

>>720748484
>weird definition of rape

Forced penetration is now the definition, because rape is bad.

>>720748295
We just approved of a budget that will increase the debt to 18-20 trillion.

But yeah debt is totally not a big deal, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Also pay no mind that we're antagonizing China, someone who controls more than half of the current debt.

>>720747967
get a load of this cuck digesting news without thinking about it. Sweeden rape rates are a result of differences in reporting. For instance if 1 person is raped 1000 times by another in Sweeden that is 1000 rapes, in the us it is reported as 1. Also rape is much looser defined in sweeden.

>>720748426
I explained why I disagreed with the above poster. Are you going to extend to me the same courtesy?

>>720733755
iranians are shi'ite that haven't commited terrorism
arabs on the other hand fund terrorism and they're free to enter

explain

>>720748786
>it's not rigged

This was a terrible attempt at "wagging the dog", where the media kept making up stats about how Hillary "The-Cunt" Clinton was winning the polls.

>>720734507
ad hominem nigger

>>720748786
Goddamn this is so beautiful of the delusion on the left

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>>720748159
Totally wrong. The gentiles were among the first Jesus taught. Even in the book of Jonah, proves God had gentiles in mind. You don't understand this because the culture in Europe now is very atheist now. Not only did Europeans not really practice what they preached when they colonized other lands and exploited other peoples, they're just abandoning any relation to Christianity itself. That's why you don't understand these facts.

Abraham is referred to in the bible as the "father of many nations." One doesn't have to be of his genetic line to have him as a father, those are non-Jewish Christians.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2011/969/

You're an atheist or agnostic or whatever right.

Countries banned 7: terrorists 0 business dealings 0. Countries not banned 3: terrorists 2500+ business dealings many. trump's ban exempts the countries he has dealing with. He's a fucking double dealer and his useful idiots defend this.

>>720748319
See:
>>720749177

>>720734507
Cletus, you need to shut your cock holster.

>>720748582
Sarcasm is not a substitute for a rebuttal. If you disagree with me, please explain why. Otherwise you're just babbling.

>>720749021
What's the intended result of doing this? In a country without compulsory voting, wouldn't it just encourage more people who don't want her to get off their asses and vote, whilst lazy ass supporters under false security won't bother?

>>720748738
What is that number, exactly?

>>720748786
There should riots. Riots over the idiocy that is trump and the stupidity that is his supporters.

>>720748862
Isn't it always forced penetration? Dick doesn't magically go into a pussy without "force."

>>720748786
This woman's smug garbage face is on the internet forever with her stupid fucking sign. It's absolutely glorious.

>>720748889
time to drain the swamp, and get rid of needless programs that put us further into debt. Not going to borrow money from China, just so we can take muslims in.

Fuck that.

Let China have the migrants.

>>720748676
Dunno something about the doomsday clock being 2 and a half minutes till midnight.

The first reported death of an american due to a antibiotic resistant bug.

Also a super volcano that starting to rumble in italy

Some people don't really think about ragheads all that much.

>>720748947
>Are you going to extend to me the same courtesy?

yes, have some courtesy.

>>720749450
"draining the swamp" Exempting from the muslim ban the countries he's doing business with. Yea right.

>>720749177
>The gentiles were among the first Jesus taught.

Paul was the apostle to the gentiles.

Yes, I'm 100% atheist, and all of it was made up.
But, I'm not uninitiated.

>>720748889
>China
>Controls more than half of the current debt

Are you talking about our national debt? If so, that's completely false. China currently holds around $1.3 trillion in US treasury securities. A significant number, but well below half of the total public debt.

I'm with you all the way, OP. Don't let the bots, paid protesters and dishonest media get to you.

Trump has been a huge role model for me for many years, and he's a truly great guy. The only people who oppose him don't actually love this country and want the US to fail to promote their pathetic agenda.

God bless the USA!!!

>>720749450
You do realize they nearly doubled the national debt to try and get rid of obamacare?

Getting rid of needless programs is getting us further into debt, not out of it...

>>720731039
Have you ever considered that you might be stupid?

>>720749401
Every time you riot, you may as well as write another vote up for Trump. Because people are getting sick and tired of your crap.

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>>720731039
right on

>>720749648
Well, you only prove everything I've said about the colonization, and other sins. A little karmic how you don't want to be around other races. Did you ever wonder how the other races might not have wanted to be around your people? Well, they didn't have a choice, and neither do you now.

Sins of the father.

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Libtards are the biggest Fucking hypocrites out there

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This just in, if Mexico does not pay for the wall, it will cost every U.S household $120.

fox25boston.relaymedia.com

Also, the countries in red are on the banned list. The countries in gold are countries Trump has business ties in.

>>720749928
Keep on spreading the fake news, asshat.

>>720746826
like how modern day Libertarians, Ancaps, and non-religious-nut righties are more like the American founding fathers than any other political party really.

lol.

>>720749682
My mistake, I included all foreign investors, they all look the same to me anyway.

>>720749376
You get percentages, and they're all very high, and the numbers are covered by the swedish government.

"If we tell you everything is OK, even when it's not, then you will believe it's OK, even when it's not, and maybe things will get better"

Yes, everyone knows about it. it's why we can't show African Americans as burglars, because African Americans make up the vast majority of Burglars by far, and we can't show that, because people might start believing that African Americans are burglars, and that would be bad, because then we'd start having to address the real problem.

>>720732436
There's something wrong with your asshole if all that jizz is able to slip through your crack.

>>720749712
>You do realize they nearly doubled the national debt to try and get rid of obamacare?

When did they double the national debt? or is this more stupid predictions from the left... like:

"The stock market will crash if trump gets into office"

Make Niggers Great Again

>>720749885
It's OK to say "they're intolerant of western culture and hate it here once they get here"

>>720750058
It's cool. Happens to the best of us.

>>720750268
>"The stock market will crash if trump gets into office"
We're 1 week in. Give it time, things don't look good. He's going to remove what tiny few regulations on wall street are left. We know how that story ends already.

>>720749772
Personally I think it's more about money than muh feelings.

Living in Florida, the only answer I've heard from acquaintances is; "My taxes,rates,bills have been so high, Trump will do something about it."

>>720750073
And what is the real problem?

>>720750193
There really hasn't been any love from the side that claims it. It's more like "Left foments pure violence and psychosis"

>>720749512
I agree these are important issues, but does the president actually need to order scientists to conduct research or do they just do it auto?

>>720735250
>Most of illegals entered the country legally (via plane)
>plane
actual retard detected
Do you know why there is more illegal immigration into the Unites States from Mexico rather than other, poorer, nations in Central and South America? (Hint: only one shares a land border with the United States.)

Kill yourself.

It makes me LMFAO when libtards try sharing anti Trump "facts" that they get from liberally biased fake news sources like CNN

>>720750523
well, in Chicago they never call it gang violence, or African American violence... they point at inanimate objects (since the murders are black on black, and black on white violence)

So, they name it: "Gun Violence"

That way you stay safely away from the problem.

>>720750667
Not even gonna bother to try and argue because you have no idea what's going on in your own country

But by all means keep watching Fox News

>>720750268
http://budget.house.gov/uploadedfiles/fy2017_budget_resolution.pdf

If you can't be bother to read the budget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AuIwR00T5g&t=250s

>>720750523
"We must confirm the narrative, never actually name the problem"

WE must eliminate Assault Rifles!!!!

(even though rifles make up less than .04% of murder weapons in the U.S.)

>>720750693
When CNN is considered "liberal", you know your country is headed straight to hell. The post-fact is real.