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I know I shouldn't fall for liberal bullshit but is Trump fucking up?
And I don't want to hear how he is doing from a white supremacist POV, but an objective one.
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my entire metric for a successful trump presidency is the volume of leftist tears bottled and sold.
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>>720626717
He's been in for 8 days, shut the fuck up and pay attention for yourself.
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>>720626717
>has done things he said he was gonna do
>put people who know how to get things done in charge rather than scientist and politicians who have no experience in that field but rather have knowledge
>jobs have actually returned to usa
but most importantly, he hasnt been in office long enough to do anything real. give him 6 months then you can decide if he's doing well or not
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Objective viewpoint
Good things he's done: Get us out of the TPP, keep muslims out of the country, see pic related, I don't want them in my country
Bad things he's done: Gut the EPA and Planned Parenthood, as well as authorize construction of the keystone pipeline
Climate change is a pretty serious issue, and I am always against the cutting of science no matter what. He's cut the funding for the EPA, thus killing many projects they've given grant money to.
The planned parenthood cuts are bad because it'll actually cost more money than it'll save, the babies that aren't aborted will become welfare leeches for life
I don't give a shit about the injuns on keystone, but I dislike any investments in fossil fuels, which are only good for short, maybe medium term, it's a poor long term investment. We shouldn't become more reliant on nonrenewable fuels that will run out, we should use those resources to become more self sufficient, so we're not fucked when they run out
That's my take on it
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>>720626717
You got your ass handed to you so beautifully in the other thread you're already making another one out of desperation?
>pic related.
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>>720627177
as someone who deals with epa they needed to be fucking slapped in the face
they have regulations that make 0 sense and have fucked us over not because they are good regulations to protect environment but because they have no idea what they are doing when they make them. flint is a great example, the epa is what fucked them over but never got blamed or punished for it
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>>720627473
>flint is a great example, the epa is what fucked them over
What other interesting facts can your ass produce?
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>>720626717
Nice try hillcuck
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>>720627002
>>put people who know how to get things done in charge rather than scientist
Like Rick Perry to watch over our nukes and run a research grant program?
Reminder that when these people get butthurt about 'elites,' it's brains that upset them, not money.
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>>720626717
Objective Canadian.
He's doing fine so far. But just fine though.
The whole banning immigrants thing is good, same with the trade deal shit and Imo the ban of funding for abortion is fine.
On the other hand he's moving really quick real fast, which is kinda scary. It's like hes got hell on his heels. Also thanks to the wall, a lot of Canadian companies/workers are going down there for work, which sucks for our economy. He also hasent relocated the abortion money yet, which I think should go to sexual education
Oh and his climate change stance is still fucking horseshit. That's the one big thing I can fault him for, though it doesn't really matter anyways cause we're fucked.
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>>720628279
well ur a faggot so...
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>>720628397
>well ur a faggot so...
Citation needed.
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>>720626717
obvious fascist. if nobody stops him we're on a runaway train bros
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>>720626717
I would say issuing an executive order on immigration without consulting DoJ and resulting in two successful emergency stays is fucking up. Even if you agree with the immigration policy this is bush league shit.
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>>720628397
Your point being what exactly?
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>>720626717
I mean, can you think of anything that he has done to live up to any of his campaign promises or help the country? Also, his cabinet is a bunch of out-of-touch billionaires. Not looking good.
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>>720626717
Give The Ben Shapiro Show a listen. It's the most objective and truthful political podcast you'll find.
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>>720628279
>The whole banning immigrants thing is good, same with the trade deal shit
OP asked for an objective perspective. "hurr it's good" is not objective.
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>>720627667
It can produce the alphabet
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>>720626717
most of you retards aren't (and will never be) smart enough to regret trump.
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>>720629251
wisdom
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>>720626717
Don't turn your back on the god emperor.
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>>720627177
Oh wow, a well thought-out, differentiated viewpoint.
You're not gonna get very far with that when dealing with retards who just want to see their team win.
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>>720629149
alright then you man of Nigerian decent.
The stopping of immigration, Espicalky that of refugees is a good thing as a lot of Syrians and Muslims tend to not adapt to their new environment. Look at Germany or Sweden.
By stopping the i flow of these people it gives the US time to think of better ways to screen potential problems as well as set up a way for these people to either
A:) Adapt. Maybe a training program.
Or
B:) Train them to rebuild their homes so we can ship em back.
That's why it's good and not a fuckup.
Trade deal is good for us as now Mexican products will be phased out from the US due to tariffs, making our stuff more appealing. Meaning hopefully more trade relations between us.
Does this waggle your eyes my noir friendo?
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>>720626717
No, he was ALWAYS fucked up. Impeach, or simply force him to resign. Let Pence be Honorary Prez, while GOP Congress runs most things until the next election. Then vote REAL politicians in, Some will be GOP, Some will be Dems, an increasing number will be neither, NONE will be Spies, and LET PUTIN have feels when the jig is up.
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>>720626717
So far, yes. He's signing ex. orders left and right without really thinking about it, isn't attending daily intelligence breifings and his cabinet picks are fucking trash.
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>>720629928
Boy, you really work hard, huh?
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>>720629624
Even if this is true (which I do not concede), Trump fucked up by failing to consult with government attorneys of DHS. So his order got stayed by two separate federal judges. In the process he inflamed anti-US sentiment abroad AND created a political firestorm at home.
Failing to accomplish your objective and hurting yourself in the process is pretty much the textbook definition of fucking up.
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>>720630308
kek not even close you fucking retard
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>>720629624
>Meaning hopefully more trade relations between us
You're delusional. Every other country in the world can still manufacture their goods in cheaper countries, but US companies will be forced to manufacture their goods in the US, the most expensive country in the world. US companies simply won't be able to compete globally. This will result in less trade, not more.
Domestically, the higher cost of manufacturing will be forwarded to the consumer. Higher costs means less consumers can afford to buy, leading to reduced demand. What happens to supply when demand falls? You guessed it. Get ready for mass layoffs.
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>>720630431
Tell me where Trump touched you, I just want to help.
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>>720626717
Not at all.
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>>720630350
Yeah but people hate him regardless if he did it right. So fuck everyone else outside of the US.
As for not consulting the DHS (though I do not know what this is, so if you could enlighten me) does sound like a fuck up. You gotta work with your own.
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>>720630596
>your delusional
No I'm Canadian.
The Canadian dollar is less than american. They might start setting up shop uo here again rather than Mexico. Ergo more trades. I'm not saying it's 100% gonna happen. Just saying I'm hopeful.
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Trump's a dictator.
The GOP has both houses -- and Trump hasn't gone through the proper channels.
This started with Reagan, who signed 381 executive orders (the most in US history). The President with the 2nd most executive orders, GW Bush.
This all sets a fantastic precedence for liberals when they win again.
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>>720630731
it was more of a grab
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>>720630872
>doesn't know what the DHS is
>feels compelled to remark on politics
>is an retard.
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>>720631088
This is also pretty delusional. Trump is clearly creating the tariffs with the specific goal of bringing manufacturing back to the US. He thinks it will create jobs because he doesn't understand that it's cheaper now to automate manufacturing than hire US workers to do it. He'd simply remove the tariffs before he would send the manufacturing work to Canada. But he won't do either because he's a stubborn fuck.
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>>720627177
I'm with you, except I'm more ambivalent about his efforts to keep Muslims out of the US. Shit's gonna be hard to track down.
Also, if a caliphate really wanted to establish sharia law around the world, I assume they'd try harder here.
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>>720627473
You're lying or misinformed. Look up Flints emergency managers, MDEQ was responsible too.
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>>720631241
Im Canadian man, I don't give a fuck about your political shit. I just know general stuff. That's why I asked, fairly politely about what it was.
Besides that OP matters, your opinion of me doesn't.
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>>720631165
Oh, I know this one! Did you let him do it because he's star like all the other gold diggers?
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>>720626717
The hypothetical slippery slope of him becoming dictator and the only people who deny this are those who have the views of an authoritarian dictator. The signs have never been so obvious. I could say the same old shit that he's a racist, sexist, egomaniac but those that love him love him because of those things or are simply delusional, so I mean, I can't really convince you on that.
His economic policies though aren't terrible and similar to past republicans. If he does it right then we might actually improve. But republicans do not have good track record, and he already seems to be making the wrong steps. The possibility of getting more work in states and less tax is great, but that will not do will if our wages are lower, prices are higher, and important government programs that many working class people need to live decently are gone.
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>>720631405
I dont think it's entirety delusional. Just optomistic.
Besides who do you think is gonna do those pipelines and fuck up the aboriginals without angering them...?
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Trump cares about Trump and fueling his narcissistic ego. He is a great salesman and manipulator. It was an "easier" sale, because of his opponent. He will not do anything intentionally to destroy america, as he wants his, his family and friends best interest protected. He took advantage of the ignorant.
Felons can't vote, but the easily manipulated can. You need to take tests and get licenses for all kinds of things. But any low-IQ gimp can vote. I hope this tremendous mistake does change constitutional law.
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>>720628279
You're a fucking moron. It's ALWAYS been policy that federal money cannot be used to fund abortion. What they're ACTUALLY doing is defuniding Planned Parenthood, which offers a wide number of reproductive and other healthcare services to both women and men who are economically disadvantaged. By making things like contraception and STD screening available to these demographics PP is actually a major factor in bringing the number of abortions in this country to an all-time low.
You dumb fuck canuck.
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>>720627177
First legitimate argumentation I've seen on /b/
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>>720626717
I'm gonna be unbiased here...the wall idea is stupid. Cost a lot of money and was unnecessary since border hopping from latin america was lesser every year since the late 90's. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but it is not what it used to be in the 70's to late 90's. They do it mostly through visas now. We could of come up with a better way to stop illegal immigration. A more cost effective way.
The ban on visas for country's that seem to harbor extremists is ok on my book. If those country's want to support these extremists or not take an active role in eradicating them, then we don't want their people here. Extreme a measure as it may seem, it is good because it sends a message to all these governments that are protecting these scum.
The pipe line decision...bad decision. The native americans gathered big time support and it seems like trump is just trying to cater to the big oil companies. Makes him look like he is spreading the swamp, not draining it.
Signed bill to upgrade our armed forces. Good on my book, we will need it no matter what.
Renegotiating trade with china and mexico is still in the works. Let's see what he does. This could be his crowning achievement or fuck us all big time because we get a lot of cheap resources from these countries.
Again, too early to tell but so far I would give him a C-...he will be criticized every turn just like Obama but even worst because he is genuinely unlikable.
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He's signing executive orders at a surprising rate. Some people are afraid that he's dismantling some systems too fast, with nothing to replace what's taken out. But that'll come in a few weeks time.
He's probably just going to end up passing most of his duties to other people, so it's not a question if he's fucking up, it's a matter of if those "other people" are doing so well.
Though it is kinda funny (being a third party voter), that people voted for Trump because he was promising so much drastic change. Now that he's in office, it's the same shit, but a different day. This is going to be an underwhelming four years
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>>720631682
If it isn't delusional then let's hear one good reason why Trump would want to send manufacturing of US goods to Canada.
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>>720626717
He already killed the TPP, as far as I'm concerned he can do whatever the fuck he wants and he'll still be a great president.
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>>720626717
Holy shit...
The Trumptards are becoming self-aware!
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>>720627473
>EPA caused Flint
Ha fucking ha no.
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>>720627002
>people who know how to get thinks done
What fantasy world do you live in?
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>>720631813
>dumb fuck Canuck
I like your style
>planned parenthood
>helping men
Doubt,
As for the rest of it. Ehhh. I think the money could be spent on something maybe more effective. Like actually teaching your children about safe sex and the repercussions of it rather than applying a fix for it. Maybe create a better system so the poor stop popping babies they can't have?
Just shit like that. I biased against it cause we have PP trying to make its way up here and it tends to be shit since our other services are better.
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>>720632120
When a child learns to ride a bike, you have to let them fall. It is how they learn.
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>>720626717
he's delivered on eight of his 20 campaign promises in 2 weeks. Dude is doing amazing.
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>>720631870
Good post anon.
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>>720632215
nope, democrats did.
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>>720626717
he's doing everything he needs to as quickly as possible to btfo globalists, libcucks, and the shadow government of unelected officials within the 3 letter agencies.
MSM is on full suicide watch and can't keep up with most of their coverage being on the 5D chess election attendance red herring no one gives a flying fuck about.
EPA is objectively terrible at their jobs and responsible for some of the worst environmental disasters in US history and routinely fuck over businesses, farmers, people who bought land within the projected rare double flecked mcguffin grazing range, etc.
FAKE NEWS about the park service, epa, etc. "blackouts" is routine with every new administration specifically for the reason of a bunch of salty fucks from the other side shitting everywhere.
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>>720631923
Canadian dollar is cheaper and we have a fuckton of natural resources. I mean Canada is the plant national for a reason.
Beyond that the keystone pipeline cuts through part of Canada, so we are gonna be getting work we just might be getting extra to do some for you guys. I'm not saying he will 100%, I'm just saying its a possibility.
It doesn't hurt us a great deal, it can just help.
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>>720632283
>planned parenthood doesn't help men
I might be wrong but they give out free condoms. Also safe sex means men won't have to deal with child support if the mother doesn't want the father near the kid. It'd also be very help to men if male birth control is a thing, which it could be if men weren't such pussies about it.
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>>720626717
>is Trump fucking up?
Oh fuck yes he is.
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Countries where Trump does business are not hit by new travel restrictions
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html
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>>720632494
>FAKE NEWS about the park service, epa, etc. "blackouts" is routine with every new administration specifically for the reason of a bunch of salty fucks from the other side shitting everywhere.
Proof of this?
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>>720631142
>execu
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Islam is totally incompatible with western culture.
Trump hasn't gone far enough, we need a nuclear crusade
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>>720632719
>link isn't Fox or Breitbart
FAKE NEWS
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>>720632571
>handing out free condoms
Fair enough.
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>>720632719
>wants to ban entry from countries known to fund muslim terrorists
> but he didn't ban these other countries!!!
Are you hearing yourself?
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>>720632719
>only warzones controlled by ISIS and other terror cells are part of the ban
>only failed states full of military aged male "refugees" are on the ban list
GEE I WONDER WHY
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>>720632412
prettttttttty sure flint's republican governor did
flint Michigan = red district.
kek, but sure, "da democrats did it!"
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>>720632567
>Canadian dollar is cheaper and we have a fuckton of natural resources
This does not even come close to making Canada a better option than Mexico or China.
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>>720633013
Are you suggesting that Saudi Arabia doesn't fund muslim terrorism anon?
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>>720632571
>hand out free condoms
Condoms are not only cheap, but like universities and colleges even hand them out....
>safe sex
Like I said, use the money to educate the masses instead of band-aiding the problem.
>makes could have birth control if they weren't such pussies.
Look I know this is bait, but explain further.
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>>720626717
Doesn't matter if he is or not. If he does the legislative and judicial branch will correct it.
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>>720633086
>only warzones controlled by ISIS and other terror cells are part of the ban.
I'm pretty sure Iran isn't, and Iran isn't even the same type of Muslim as ISIS. They're just enemies of Saudi Arabia.
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>>720627473
It's another government agency wasting money.
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>>720632768
dont take any information from anybody posting a fucking pickachu with a MAGA hat seriously.
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>>720633118
>he doesn't like Mexico or China
>other points still stand.
not saying your wrong, just not entirely correct.
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>>720633096
>It's white peoples fault the entirely black democrat local government of Flint Michigan first was too stupid and cheap to put the proper filters for their new water source and ruined the entire cities piping within a year
>it's white peoples fault the entirely black democrat local government keeps missing the fucking deadlines to get the money earmarked from the evil white man to fix the fucking pipes
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>>720631870
Here's the problem with his country-based visa ban: most of the countries named have had comparatively little to do with modern Wahhabi terrorism. Know what else they've had little to do with? Trump's business ventures, unlike several other largely Muslim countries that were not targeted, including Saudi Arabia aka the country of origin for most of the 9/11 hijackers. But Trump has business there and is widely believed to be indebted to the al-Sauds, so they get a pass.
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>>720633169
I'm suggesting the other muslim countries don't hold a trillion of US debt. Like the other anons talking about safe sex, banning those 7 countries is about protecting yourself from diseases you created when you fucked the place up. STDs from outside can be taken care of later.
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>>720631411
This, in 100% with both of these guys
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>>720626717
>white supremacist POV
>objective one
>insinuating there's a difference
>being a fucking race traitor
i'm glad trump won and all but i would have happily accepted a loss if i knew it were because people like you had committed suicide instead of voting
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>>720633385
Wait do you think Trump is just doing all of this to spite Mexico and China? This is about bringing manufacturing to the US, nothing more. It's not like he hates Mexico/China and is just looking for some way to fuck them over.
And no, your other points don't "stand," they're completely irrelevant. We're talking about manufacturing of goods for US companies here, not the fucking oil pipelines.
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>>720633204
>Look I know this is bait
No it isn't. Men don't want to deal with the side effects and would rather have their women deal with it. Because their pussies. Also
>condoms are cheap therefore Planned Parenthood is useless
If you could find more ways they could help males, enlighten me or call your closest facility, I'm sure they have something. But just because the costs of assisting women is higher doesn't mean it's useless.
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>>720626852
And this is why you've doomed us. You'll let this sociopathic retard drag this country down with everybody in it so long as you get a little petty revenge on whiney liberal faggots.
Is there no middle ground anymore? Are retarded petty trailer trash and weak liberal faggot really the only two choices we have?
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>>720633588
ouch
you know a LOT of people regret voting for him. do you hate them all? for exercising freedom of thought? freedom of speech?
Sad!
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>>720633620
Oil pipelines still count. We're getting money for it. It's still a win.
It will create new networks for us and could land other deals when it comes to construction.
The other stuff, like I said is optimistic thinking.
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>>720633620
Yes, Americans want to spend 35%+ more on goods they purchase. Doh.
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>>720633769
don't be myopic
your sample group is tumblr and /b/
the vast majority of Americans are moderate people.
the super far left snowflakes, and ultra hard right snowflakes (there's not much that separates them btw) are the exception. not the rule.
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>>720631142
While I agree with you in principal, your numbers are bonkers. See>>720632823
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>>720633880
"we" lol
Corporations are getting money for it.
you won't see a penny of it, son. ever.
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>>720632283
I live in an okay area with mostly whites, when I was in high school they spoke plenty about condoms and other forms of contraception. It honestly never helped. Its good to know, but if youre implying that it will stop people from fucking without condoms and inevitably becoming pregnant at a young age then youre wrong. Everyone i knew still thought they were too cool for condoms. In reality, half of them had kids by accident that ruined their lives. In the long term, funding planned parenthood would be ideal. Education is key, prevention is necessary, but so is a safety net.
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>>720633620
Is he doing it to spite Mexico and China? No, he's doing it to pander to retarded trailer trash constituents.
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>>720634054
then let's say 'in modern history' (ie the last 50 years).
that's good enough for me
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>>720633880
There's a difference between delusion and optimism. In order for an idea to move from the former to the latter, there has to be SOME way for it to work. There is no good reason why Trump would want to move the manufacturing of US goods to Canada.
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>>720626717
>I shouldn't fall for liberal bullshit
>implying only white supremacists support trump
but you obviously are a liberal who's full of shit
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>>720633620
no. trump still outsources 90% of his labor to china and mexico.
he's only doing it to garner support from his retarded base.
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>>720634178
Exactly.
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>>720627177
>Bad things he's done: Gut the EPA and Planned Parenthood
PP is a private tax exempt business that brings in 1.7Billion revenue per year.
He cut congressional funding of it for 500million.
That is not gutting it.
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>>720633816
yea i do and no it's not sad, because "freedom" is a concept that in a perfect world would only be applicable to whites, more specifically only to white employed men who, and even more specifically only to those who love this world order, recognize it as righteous, and wish to fight to uphold and maintain it. anyone else is a nigger.
(for reference: a "nigger" is a sentient but non-person lump of human germ tissue, that deserves no rights or freedoms, and whose only possible worth or use is the total conversion of its biochemical fuel to more useful forms of energy -- typically via labor to the point of death, though i wouldn't rule out cannibalism, immolation for warmth, starvation in a sealed chamber that feeds on body heat, et cetera. basically a nigger is like a living human body, except expendable and of no inherent moral value.)
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>>720633978
Yet they get pandered to the most. They are the fat baby bird in the crowded nest screaming for all the food. It's really hard not to get jaded about all this shit.
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>>720627002
Obvious bait.
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>>720634783
you do realize that coastal blue states are worth trillions of dollars, yes?
and that red states are welfare states?
We give you hundreds of billions annually for subsidies and welfare.
In fact the largest group on welfare in America are whites in red states (not blue).
Thus. You're the nigger. Certainly you see that?
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>>720634885
absolutely, and I agree.
frankly extremists should be shot. for the benefit of the nation -- and the world.
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>>720626717
Yes. The global economy isn't a zero-sum game like American business can be. It's a whole new ballgame and he's not doing to well so far, unless his objective is just to shake it up. Which will cost you and I money, but it very well may be quite profitable for him. Follow the money, I'm afraid he's only going to do what's best for himself.
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>>720633658
Look I gotta go in like 15 minutes. I know your being a fisherman here but I'm gonna take you seriously for a second.
>men are pussies about birth control.
No. One this is comepletely subjective. I want you to show me a fucking study, a fucking poll, fucking anything that confirms this stupid assertion.
No the reason why men don't have birth control is because we have yet to develop a product that works on men like the pill works on women. And I know where your fucking going with this. You'll mention that one study that had like a 90-95% success rate, but gave men headaches so they didn't use it right?
Wrong.
It's because it had a chance to make men infertile. Forever. No company would take that risk cause it would mean they could easily get sued. The FDA would never approve of it either. Unless pressure by feminist groups like what happened with Addyi.
>if you could find ways to help males by all means.
First, it helps men little to none. Beyond this its sexual education has a very limited readh which is why I think it should be defended and instead the money put into schools where it could be used to teach both sexes about safe sex, sexual education, etc.
The problem I have with it is that people only reach out to PP after the fact, rarely before hand limiting its reach to help. You instead put that money into schoos you can teach a whole generation about preventing the messes PP has to clean up.
For other things, it can be transferred to other areas, like health care facilities. But then again you inbreds don't have proper healthcare don't you?
Nooooo. You don't?
Now I want to give you a question. Tell me, can you list all the things it does for women and list all the things it does for men?
What does it TRUELY do for men Anon?
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>>720626717
Muhammed” received just 180 hours (22 days) of community service last year after he was prosecuted for attacking and brutally raping a 12 year old girl. Aged 18 at the time of his conviction, now the rapist’s friends and family are exacting revenge upon his victim, prolonging her trauma.
Now 13, ‘Ida’ has told local Swedish paper Sundsvalls Tidning about her most recent ordeal. Two brothers of the rapist go to her school, from which she has had to be withdrawn. Now five or six times she has been attacked by the men and their friends in public, at the local shops and around the neighbourhood.
The most serious attack took place on March 24th, when she was discovered at a bus stop by the brothers. One of them pushed her down, while the other punched her in the mouth. Upon seeing the mother of the boys approaching, Ida told the paper: “I thought she would stop them. But she kicked me”.
The young girl was admitted to hospital with a head injury and two loose teeth. The police have been notified, but in defiance of the report the girl has been told she will be beaten six more times.
Now she says “I dare not go outside”, because friends of her rapist will telephone the brothers if they see her in town.
Speaking to the local paper, the chief of local police has urged the girl to get in touch “as soon as something happens”. He also suggests “it’s good to keep a diary” of incidents should the events ever go to trial.
Ida had only turned 12 in the same month she was lured back to ‘Muhammed’s’ flat under false pretences for the first attack. When he had her alone, the man tore off her clothes and held his hand over her mouth while he raped her. A FriaTider report from the time states as he raped the young girl, he repeatedly told her “black dick is expensive”.
The attack left the girl “bleeding heavily” and with psychological problems. ‘
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Per capita welfare use is actually a pretty even split between whites and blacks. But you're right, most of those welfare queens are located in red states.
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>>720627473
>ie butthurr mongrel pawn to some business who was 'bullied by the EPAs' big ol mean policies like 'don't dump your toxic chemical shit into the river, dickwad'.
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Abortion IS murder. And it must be banned.
It WILL be banned.
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If Trump really wanted to make America great again he would:
*Abolish the federal minimum wage
*Reduce the federal spending to chiefly support the military, law enforcement, and courts
*Slash all other government regulatoty agencies and privitize healthcare, schooling, postal service, et cetera
*Reduce the power of the federal government and return the power to the states
*Begin a truly non-interventionist foreign policy
*Deciminialize victimless crimes
*Abolish the federal reserve
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>>720626717
Yes. He's fucking up and if he keeps it up the Gov. will take a hard left in 2018 and 2020.
Trump supporters may be laughing now but in the coming years they'll have to stop.
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>>720634325
Look man, I've presented my shit and really I gotta go. I've been trying to wind down the convo.
I still think what I said stands, you just gotta think about it. Anyways good luck with the preident and all
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>>720635042
>you do realize that coastal blue states are worth trillions of dollars, yes?
how disgusting
>and that red states are welfare states?
how heartbreaking
>We give you hundreds of billions annually for subsidies and welfare.
as you damn well should, except in an ideal world we'd be richer than you and you'd STILL be giving us free money, right up until the moment you all dried up and ceased to be
>In fact the largest group on welfare in America are whites in red states (not blue).
good, i'm glad the white race is being protected while niggers like you pay for it as they should
>Thus. You're the nigger. Certainly you see that?
absolutely not, it's not a matter of usefulness to society; the fat couch potato who's white, male, employed, and acknowledges the reality of white male supremacy, is infinitely more important as a human being than the female black creature who struggles to feed its larvae in the streets. it's the very same logic that applies to saving humans (i.e. whites) during a fire and leaving pet dogs to tragically burn to death. although a better comparison would be pet cockroaches, since that's what niggers are, that's how much of a soul they have, that's how much they matter in a metaphysical humanistic sense
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>>720635602
the pendulum always swings back.
this time, the pendulum as taken a far swing to the right.
thus, it will similarly take a far swing to the left.
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>>720633658
You got 5 more minutes then I'm gone.
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>>720628279
>moving really quick real fast
He has to get a lot done quick before he gets bored of the job
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>>720631539
This actual sounds like something someone wearing a fedora might say.
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>>720636771
Or he knows he's gonna get kicked out, or exposed or something.
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>>720633658
>>720635244
>>720636520
T-t-t-times up Mr. Willicker!
I'll check up on you in half an hour. Maybe then you'll have something for me.
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>>720627473
are you talking about the same EPA who's environmental regulations have easily saved millions more American lives than the department of defense in the last 46 years?
>they don't know what they are doing
Except that they do, it's all based peer reviewed science preformed by Ph.D. students and post grads, you not understanding is not them not knowing what they are doing.
Example name 1 specific regulation where the EPA did not know what they are doing
>Just one
I'm waiting.
>>720633318
Wasting it's nominal 6.8 billon dollar endowment? Protecting us from tangible and immediate harm to public health, while we spend 1 trillion dollars a year protecting ourselves by giving welfare to arms manufacturers?
FFS, Americans for prosperity, CATO institute and their corporate employers can spend 50 bucks and by your point of view. It's fucking scary
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>>720627177
/thread
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>>720635317
>>720635042
>Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.
>Democrats, who speak passionately about the hungry and homeless, personally fork over less money to charity than Republicans
>tfw you realize Republicans are literally more generous than Democrats
>tfw you realize all this time you've been brainwashed to think Republicans are the "greedy rich" when in reality IT'S THE EXACT OPPOSITE and all these whiney, "protesting" kids are getting played by the likes of George Soros and his ilk.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html
Sooner or later you'll have to accept the truth, liberals.
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>>720638107
http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/republicans-most-generous-people-in-the-world-democrats-not-so-much
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>>720638212
Political scientist Jesse Richman of Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Virginia, has worked with colleagues to produce groundbreaking research on noncitizen voting and has concluded AT LEAST 800,000 votes have been to have been cast by ineligible non-citizens in the 2016 US election in favor of Clinton.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-800000-votes-from-nonciti/
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Democrat here
I'm for his Muslim ban but not a full perma-ban I want extremely hard as fuck ways to get into this country.
Pipeline isn't a great idea, which most people here have stated already
The wall separating us from Mexico is kinda silly, there's already been documentary's on how they come into our country far easier, and much faster (underground tunnels, boats, visas, and other bullshit)
Mixed on Abortions to be frank, I'm adopted so I wouldn't be here if they had aborted me but more people means more people to feed; ether way we need more money put into sexual education. Especially in the black community and the entirety of lacking of father/father-like people, would change their culture in many ways if something was done
I'm just not a fan of the man himself, if it was any other Republican I don't think I'd give as much of a shit.
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>>720627177
>Double sevens
Apparently KEK wills a well thought-out argument.
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>>720626717
>white supremacist
You've already fallen for the liberal bullshit. Trump has never been racist or a 'white supremacist'. Open borders are bad, controlled immigration from good countries is fine.
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>>720638107
I never thought the republicans were greedy and rich. Only a small minority of them are.
No, I'm afraid that the republicans are just manipulated by the greedy and rich, the democrats are aswell but not so much domestically.
The the social conservatives that form the republican base have been manipulated into thinking free trade and corporate wealthfare are their values, the also can vote just because a sly lawer mentions how bad abortion is during a campaign. It's sad, they are typically good people that are just naïve. The same goes for the democratsZ
Both parties are at work for the world bank
Economic growth will kill us all.
Our real problems are what doesn't get talked about and is agreed upon
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>>720638107
>>720638212
fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu idk what to believe
i think this might be the point. class war. fuck me
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>>720638107
The study you're quoting counts tithing as giving to charity.
Tithing is not really charity. It funds organizations that often do charity work, but most churches have enormous overhead compared to NGOs, both religious and secular. Most of their money is spent on salaries and upkeep.
Here's a link from a Christian organization to back this up.
http://www.gospelpolitics.com/debunking-the-conservatives-give-more-to-charity-myth.html
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>>720638397
The wall isn't being built to stop ONLY illegal immigration. The majority of narcotics ALSO cross the land border, not boats or submarines or planes. You'd have to be in absolute denial to think a wall isn't going to stop a large amount of that.
Let's assess your claim that that tunnels are actually effective (they're not, but I'll play devil's advocate before a liberal starts whining). We can and DO find those tunnels, we clear them, then we use a controlled det. to destroy them. Even IF they get a shipment or two through, those tunnels still cost TENS of MILLIONS every single time they have to build one. When the wall's built and when the trend moves to MORE tunnels, this will hurt the cartels MORE in their pockets which is where it counts. They will LOSE, one way or the other. Prove me wrong.
http://www.businessinsider.com/16-maps-of-drug-flow-into-the-united-states-2012-7
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/06/12/sophisticated-smuggling-rings-supply-heroin-surge/9713909/
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>>720639123
Tithing IS charity you numbksull.
Charity
the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.
synonyms: financial assistance, aid, welfare, relief, financial relief
You can try to refute definitions of words now because you have literally no other angle to attack. Those facts are probably racist or something. Pull your head outta your ass, kid.
>some random left-wing church blog is more valid than the NY Times
fuckin kek, my sides
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>>720632281
Who is Mattis again?
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>>720639123
>b-b-b-but your facts are UNFAIR!
>uses "No True Scotsman" fallacy to try and refute substantiated and valid numbers
sure, kid
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>>720639611
Most churches (not all) spend very little on public good, and almost all of what they do spend is on their own members. But that's not the point.
The point is that if tithing is charity, then taxes are charity, because the government does social good sometimes, probably at a higher rate than churches. But that figure didn't include the taxes that wealthier liberals pay, did it?
It also doesn't include things like buying fair trade coffee, paying for solar power, or a million other things that liberals tend to do with their money much more than conservatives.
The figure that you are quoting is incomplete, and people like you wave it around like you understand because it makes you feel like you're better than someone else. Conservatives can be very generous, but something tells me you're not really part of that.
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>>720626717
Oh look its another leftie shill pretending to be an ex-trump supporter. This is what he promised his entire campaign, this is what we wanted him for.
Now fuck off with your muslim buddies to canada or some shit
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>>720640041
You didn't even read the article or the study, or you wouldn't think that way.
Don't talk shit about things you haven't even bothered to understand. Another conservative hiding behind the charity of others to excuse your own angry bitter nature.
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>>720639611
So you've effectively proven conservatives are better at believing in fairy tails
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>>720626990
>be as new to politics as a 19 year old
>am 19
>how to subscribe to political news?
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>>720638107
>Republicans are literally more generous than Democrats
If this were true they wouldn't shit on social programs every chance they get.
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>>720640837
What silly things people believe doesn't make them less authentically generous.
I'm not arguing that conservatives can't be generous, I'm arguing that the way that study measures things deserves to be examined. There's no reason to get upset.
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>>720640979
They would offer the defense that they prefer more private charity.
As a liberal, I believe that there are times when they are even correct that government giving is less effective than local giving. It's why we have a two party system.
Do any of the angry people in this thread actually contribute? I doubt it, but don't let them fool you, my father is a republican of modest means and he gives thousands a year to real charities, local and global.
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>>720626852
Let me guess. You got called racist by someone after saying something racist once,it hurt your feefees and now you'd willingly ruin the entire world just to make it right.
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>>720627002
Things Trump promised which he already flaked on:
1. Investigate Clinton. Even as a libtard, I was actually looking forward to that. Guess there was nothing to investigate.
2. Make Mexico pay for the wall
I wonder what's next?
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>>720641321
>government giving is less effective than local giving
That's debatable.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/howardhusock/2014/04/10/lesson-for-april-15-why-government-cant-replace-charity/#649d818f1050
The gist is that government is better at large scale social programs while private charities are better at tailoring to individual needs. Republicans are currently shitting all over the idea of universal healthcare coverage and that clearly falls into the former category.
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>>720627177
Even pro-life people should want planned parenthood funding. When abortions are funded, they can be done as early as possible. If someone doesn't have the money to get an abortion when they're pregnant, they might try to save it up by the 3rd term and then the process is pretty much removing the fetus piece by piece.
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>>720628279
>objective
You sound like a typical conservative shithead to me.
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>>720626717
If you are using the phrase "white supremesist POV" in a stipulation, you have allready been indoctrinated into leftist, libral, or more likely SJW/Twitter thought pattern...
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Like it or not liberals are more intelligent than conservatives. You should have listened when they said Trump was a very bad idea.
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>>720626717
He fucked up by running at all. He thought being president sounded fun. Whoops.
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>>720642194
>having your head in the sand about how retarded the right has gotten
Mhm.
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>>720642230
Republicans would have had a flat earther running for president, they would have still voted for him just to prove those snooty liberal medias and electors that they're entitled to put a retard in power. They would have still bitched about the medias not giving him equal coverage and treating his opinions as valid. Republicans just want to be entitled to be shitty people and still be treated with respect. Well that's never going to happen.
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>>720626852
Ill bet you dont think you voted emotionally
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Why isn't a one talking about Bannon? He's the one pulling the strings. Trump is just the ceremonial pen in the proceedings.
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>>720626717
so far he is living up to his promises so I think hes doing an ok job so far
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>>720627177
Trump's muslim ban excluded Saudi Arabia, the country that produced the 9/11 terrorists
the tinfoiler in me wants to say he was good friends with Larry Silverstein
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>>720632283
>be me
>male
>go to Planned Parenthood
>get free condoms and STD screening
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>>720645188
>be stereotypically otaku beta cunt
>fat hairy slob who faps at the computer all day long with glasses
>decide to make a change
>get out a little more
>get a little exercise
>intensive skin care
>so into le amine girls that you're curious about being one
>take tranny pills
>slowly turn from fat wrinkly beta male to fat wrinkly beta female with a dick
>2 years later
>congratulations you are now a passable milfy bbw trap
>the more estrogen you take the less you care for hte animu gorls
>so you start thinking
>"i wonder what cock is like"
>dildo
>mmhhhh yyeeessss
>one day on /b/
>want to troll some more but bored of doing femanon threads
>"maybe i'll link someone to boku no pico again, that's always funny"
>look up the link
>stay on the page for a few minutes
>"i'm not enjoying this"
>"why can't i click away"
>cock gets hard
>watch chico fucking pico
>insert dildo in ass at same time
>fuck
>several months later
>walking a skinny little ten year old boy through a grocery store
>he's scared of strangers and wraps himself around your thigh for safety
>his face is suspiciously close to your chubby ass
>casually caress his crown while browsing the soups "what's the matter sweetie?"
>"i feel like they're staring at us"
>"now, don't you say that, no one's staring at anyone" kneel down to examine him, then fasten the top button of his shirt and kiss his cheek "don't be embarrassed, you look fine"
>"that's not why i'm embarrassed" he glances down at his pants
>look down
>notice the "other reason" he was clinging to you
>kiss boner through shorts "just a little longer okay?" wiggle teasingly at him "momma's ass loves you too cutie pie"
>tfw this is totally normal for you now
>tfw you're so far gone you literally fucking adopted a shota and trained him to explore your big milf booty with his stiff dribbling little cock every night
>tfw you're not even going to get in trouble because he's always the seme
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>>720630596
Did u see that faggot's response?
> I'm not delusional I'm Canadian
Canada's university boom and USA exports gone down.
Trump backed out of the TPP which was designed specifically to hurt China lol,
He's a mad faggot on wheels all we can do is laugh at him and hope he doesn't Fuck things up too much
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Complicated paperwork.
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>>720644154
Trump has business in Saudi Arabia that's why
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>>720646813
>hope he doesn't Fuck things up too much
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>>720646376
10/10 troll
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>>720646376
>always the seme
what?
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>>720635132
Doesn't that make you an extremist? Or is shooting people who disagree with you now a moderate position?
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>>720635132
Good idea. We'll shoot you first.
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>>720630350
ur so dumb and must be trolling
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h
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>>720647601
weeaboo term for the party in a sexual relationship who engages in penetration of any kind, as opposed to the party thus penetrated (the "uke")
there's also a certain connotation to these words, such that someone described as the "seme" is expected to be tall, lean, fit, subdued, altogether more stoic and masculine, whereas the "uke" is expected to be, for lack of energy to think of better descriptors, a bitchy fragile little faggot with curves like a professional slut
clearly the greentext anon was going for the definition but not the connotation
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>>720626717
I have a great day and I have a flying fuck that she was a great weekend too she starts with a great huge Shit to shame on you're I wouldn't care if I wouldn't say you are a faggot that your mother is a homosexual and that your father sucks Huge Harambe Cock
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>>720651025
the fatty's plump cheek and continues rubbing away at his sleeve shirt and kiss his own world of her kind words and phrases that I am living with the power to see the beauty in the way you can get a sense of betrayal the same thing as beauty or deservingness the fatty's plump young man who is also trying to cook for about a month ago and I will give up all and anything I have to leave the house today and I love to fuck every single one of them are into each day of the book was born in a dark filthy cave
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>>720651323
The following user says thank you for your time and consideration and I have a great day and I have a great weekend too she starts to shame on my Asshole and she starts to shame on my Mouth Android and I Fucking Hate Jews and I Fucking Hate blacks and she still did I have a homosexual Time
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>>720651531
to the fatty and cuddles B spoKn parts the fatty's plump young guys are doing well and good luck with your help and advice on how you can get a sense of parts the same birthday party for my mandatory balancing act of the world of the book was born the fatty's plump little thing I would like it either is it weird that it is said to have a sexual urge to spend all your money on food but instead of eating it I have to lose weight a little bit of a full time job and a good cook until the end of next week and a good comedy film with the power to see the servant's palm underneath it is a very inappropriate response to the ills of the world of the book was born in exactly the manner in which the brain has been a while to get fat without being anally fuck a fat american flies to africa I have to leave shortly otherwise I would like to request extensions on the ground
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>IMMEDIATELY gets to work delivering on several important campaign promises
>Fucking up
Pick one. Trump is killing it, and it's amazing to watch.
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Heres a metaphor.
>zombie outbreak
>you're within a safezone and right now there are 7 problematic countries dealing with growing levels of infection outbreaks
>the safezone leader announces a ban on all people with bite marks or those who are directly related to someone with a bite mark, from entering
>temporary ban until the infection dies out and can be controlled
People wouldn't be advocating then would they, but somehow just because there is this widespread naivety that the whole world is peace love and chocolate and functions just like the USA, everyone is clueless and up in arms about this shit.
Cutting funding for planned parenthood and his views on the environment are shit tho.
I still think he's an idiot though.
But really, people making such a fuss over things is even worse. Everyone is so fucking sensitive.
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>>720629070
Ben Shapiro is hardly objective.. Maybe compared to the hard lefts and hard rights, but not in a stand alone sense.. Put anyone next to Maddow, O'Reilly, Hannity etc and they look like objective geniuses...
But a 6 standing next to a bunch of 2's is still a 6..
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>>720635997
You sound like a bitter idiot
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