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Hey /b/ros. I didn't vote but am confused about the wall

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Hey /b/ros. I didn't vote but am confused about the wall thing. Why does Mexico have a problem with us building a wall?
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Because they are going to pay for it
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because all they stupid beaners can not come here and ruin america
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>>720567604
Because, like our liberals, they are nothing but fucking hypocrites.
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>>720567604
by having a problem with the wall its the only time mexico gets attention and 20% of it is the rabid liberal fags and dykes who add it on to the reasons why a successful white person cannot lead
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>>720567604
Mexico does not have a wall like that the picture says..
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think they should machine gun towers every 100 yards
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What exactly is this wall going to stop, and where will the cocaine exit point be?
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>>720567720
They're not going to pay for it.... you're as retarded as all the Amerifats that voted for trump if you believe that.

Trump is saying they'll put a 20% import tax on Mexican goods imported to amerifat, meaning you dumb consumers are going to pay for the wall by paying an extra 20% for all your Corona beers and tacos!
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They don't want to pay for it and also muh fee-fees
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>>720568359
Oh all things made in the US thanks man
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>>720568359
10 feet higher
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>>720568022
But they a lot of them are racist as fuck even with their own people.
They also pursue illegals and deport them.
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>More illegal crossings and smuggling happens AT BORDER CHECKPOINTS than between them
>The existing fence already gave logistical problems when it was set up and a full wall isn't any more likely
>The existing fence is already climbed over\dug under. A wall will be no different.

Basically it's a huge waste of time/money and also a big fuck you to our third biggest trade partner.

Oh and that 20% tax on imports? That just makes the end product more expensive for the consumer, so you and I will be paying to cover that, mot Mexico.

Fuck that stupid wall. Walls have NEVER WORKED IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.
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>>720568359
>he doesn't know about the tariffs
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>>720568430
Except that one time in China. And Berlin. And Israel.
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>>720568413
those are still more expensive than the mexican products now you mongo
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>>720568430

Walls are great for contractors, the wall is another war on drugs, pointless, expensive and virtue signalling, but get's lot's of jobs.
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>>720568359
I doubt it would get pass congress, I know no sane Texas congressman will vote for something that will fuck up Texas economy.
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>>720568503
If you think any of those walls worked, you need a history lesson. Especially China's.
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>>720568940
I've watched mulan at least 3 times, and I cry every tiem
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>>720568503
and every castle still standing today
and at every military compound in the world right now
and most prisons
and most banks (love the ones that just keep the contents of their vault on the floor for anyone to pick up)
and every wall ever that you can still call a wall
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>>720568503
>China
not really, the mongols once they united simply jumped over and conquered china.
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>>720568940
>if a wall is breached once at any point in time it therefore has never worked as a wall in any other past event
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>>720569261
>>720569339
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>>720568359
Landshark is better though
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>>720567604
Its not what the wall will do or who will pay for it but the biggotry behind the idea. Or at least thats what i think anyways.

Personally i dont think it will make one shit lick of difference. The cartels are either going to dig tunnels under it or blow holes in it, either way its effects will be negligible at best
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>>720567604
That's Israel
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>>720567604
They have a problem with it because trump is against NAFTA which allows American companies to outsource labor to their factories in Mexico. If that deal goes south Mexicos economy will suffer along side ours effectively forcing Mexicans to try to cross our borders to find work.

Hence. The wall.
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Mexico will pay for the wall one of two ways,1) being a straight sum of money 2) being through a 20% import tax. Consider that 80% of Mexico's exports go to the US, that will hurt them more than a lump sum of money as that increase in cost will give incentive to US businesses to generate those goods. Note that Whilst a wall won't stop all Illegal immigration across the border it would significatly reduce it by estimated 40-50%. Perhaps it would be better to lower welfare so there is less incentive to cross the border in the first place. However If the average police officer is given the power to detain and deport illegal immigrants any where in the country than the focus would not have to be so heavily on the border. ALSO it might be cheaper to build a wall then have to pay for the high border patrol staff. The best example of a succeful wall which the US plans to copy btw, is the israel palestein wall, which resulted in an average of 57 terrorist bombings yearly to 3.
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>>720569339
> wall did not keep enemies out or people in, as it was supposed to
> but its still a wall you guys
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>>720568426
Mexicans don't give a fuck a bout the wall, dumbass. They don't want to pay for it. Build whatever they fuck you want with your own money
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>>720569219
It saddens me that people are this stupid.
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>>720570364
wall did not keep enemies out or people in, as it was supposed to
>wall does this for x years
>breached once
>invaders repelled/invaders settle
>wall repaired
>the wall didn't really work for those x years because it was breached at some point in the future
You're an idiot.
LET IT BE KNOWN BY ALL THAT A WALL MUST BE BUILT TO OUTLIVE THE BUILDER AND ANY DESCENDANTS IN ORDER TO BE A WALL
"What's that barrier-like object holding up our roof, father?"
"Well son, one day after we're long gone, I hope that archeologists can call it a wall."
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>>720567604

That's not a photo mexico's border with guatemala. That's not even the type of landscape down there, it's not desert you uneducated twat it's a tropical forest.

Of course you're a trump supporter. You'll believe anything anyone tell you no matter how obviously false and stupid. Half of america is as stupid as you.
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You know how stupid OP is. First, Mexico paid for it themselves. Second, if it worked... how the fuck are we still getting illegals from Central America?
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>>720571326
1/2? More than half. 11k for a dead ape.
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>>720571326

Here's an actual photo of their southern boarder
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>>720570155
>Consider that 80% of Mexico's exports go to the US, that will hurt them more than a lump sum of money
Here's how it really works: America pays to build the wall. We charge x% import tax. Mexico raises the price of its good x%. Americans pay original price + x%. Americans pay twice for building the wall, because even at original + x%, it's still cheaper than paying American-made prices.

Then there are the agricultural prices. We still find their prices for avocados, melons, flowers, etc. are cheaper and fresher than importing from Chile, etc. So Americans are still paying fr the wall.

It's idiotic.
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>>720567604
MFW a revolving border system like what the US had in the 70s would solve the illegal immigration problem.

and if you fucktards are aftraid for your job then maybe think about getting a job that requires actual skills
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>>720571442

Third, there is no wall there, that photo isn't from Mexico.

You believed an obviously fake photo someone randomly posted on the internet.
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>>720571655
You still don't get it. Nobody gives a fuck how much it's going to cost, you're going back Pedro and no amount of salt is going to change that.
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>>720571655

This is pretty much how all of trumps economic plans play out. He doesn't know what he's doing.

Any educated person can see this. Plebs cannot.
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>>720569416
>the biggotry behind the idea.
Yep, I am downright bigoted against law breakers.

Now, anyone who wants to immigrate legally, welcome to America.

Want to sneak in and leech off our system, get free education for your kids, and undercut our poorest citizen's wages with your uneducated ass? GTFO. Fix your own fucking country.
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>>720567604
I don't they really have a problem with a wall, but they don't want to put money into it. Can't blame them
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>>720568359
And cars
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>>720568430
They tunnel too
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>>720568430
This anon gets it. The wall is a huge waste of money americans will end up paying for, not mexico.
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>>720568426
Everyone is racist as fuck. Asia is racist as fuck, Muslims are racist as fuck, blacks are insanely racist and to them absolutely everything has to do with race, we (Mexico) are racist too. It's you white countries that are outside the norm. I don't know what the fuck happened but you can't even admit basic truths about race any longer.
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>>720568940
Israel border wall is working very well.
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>>720570155
>Mexico will pay for the wall one of two ways,
>1) being a straight sum of money 2) being through a 20% import tax.

3) Taxes on remittances, which is the money the illegals send back directly to Mexico.
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>>720571904
Beautiful. Literally my thoughts exactly
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>>720567604
>Image twice employs incorrect "it's."
Opinion discard.
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>>720569219
>walls keep people out of banks so they'll also keep spics out of muh freedom
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Trump is a tard......most educated persons would agree
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Post YFW they start deporting spics in a neighborhood near you.
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>>720572138
PLUNGE THE ILLEGALS AND THEIR COUNTRY INTO MOAR POVERTY MWAHAHAHA! No, seriously, that's good
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>>720572138
So. You do understand the importer will just pass the cost on to the American consumer. You people are fucking stupid it's cringy as fuck. Kys
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>>720567604
Illegal Mexican workers sending money back from foreign countries is a larger source of money than their oil and gas industry.
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>>720567604
Suace? yeah that's what I thought, because there's not sucha a thing as "Mexican southern border", most of you rightists are dumb as they come.
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>>720572338
Implying anyone gives two shits. Keep complaining but that wall is still going up and your being send home.
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>>720572338
I would rather pay for the wall because its much cheaper than what illegals cost now in America.
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>>720571655
Trump's not retarded. He'll get Mexico to pay. No sneaking out on this or tricks.
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>>720568430
What is the Great Wall?
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>>720572108

440 miles with a full time standing sentries 27/7

I guess if we made mandatory military service we could man a mexico wall and keep some strawberry pickers out.
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>>720567604
>>720567604
>because they're going to pay for it

>because it will be, at the very least, harder for Paco and Friends to hop the border, get illegal jobs, then send non-taxed income back to Mexico

>because it will be, at the very least, more difficult to traffic narcotics

There are literally no other reasons. We are a sovereign country with every right to secure our borders. Mexico isn't some 53rd state of the US and a wall on our southern border will literally only inconvenience criminals. Prove me wrong.
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>>720572422

dubs of truth

they think all of mexico is a desert so they see pics of israeli wall and buy it.
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>>720572487
Do you believe everything your rightwing masters push at you?
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>>720572494
He is retarded. Very retarded. But better than clinton.
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>>720572221
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>>720567604
If Trump was saying "Mexico, we're friends and we respect you, but we have some problems and we think a wall will do a lot to address them. Of course we can talk about addressing any concerns you may have" they would be OK with it

But what he's saying is "We're building a wall to keep you rapist fuckers out of our country. Since you shitbags made us build it, you're going to pay for it. No, you get no say whatsoever in any aspect of it, even thought you're paying for it. No, we won't keep it on the downlow so don't look like my cuck. In fact, I'm going to brag about in front of large crowds".

And you wonder why they have a problem with it.
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>>720572108
But the US isn't trying to annex Mexico, so they really can't be compared.
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His next rule of order should be to send those niggers back to their shit hole on boats they brought them here in.
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>>720572734
Please show us where he said that?
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>>720572338
Remittances are an export, you dumb fuck.

It's the money from an illegal alien's wages that they send home to Mama. You tax it when it is transferred back to Santa Bumfuck, Monterrey. It's a tax on foreign labor.

Result is the fucking Illegals pay for the wall.
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>>720572679
I believe the right more than the rubbish that comes from the left.
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>>720572338

And you realize as price goes up, demand drops right? Oh wait, of course you've never taken basic microeconomics or anything. Christ, you're an idiot.

So they're going to drive their own industry into the fucking ground and sacrifice profits JUST so they don't have to pay for a wall that will cost maybe 10% of what they stand to lose if they don't? It's called leverage. We have it. They don't.

I hope the rest of the Mexicans aren't as fucking stupid as you are.
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>>720572798
Or block remittances all together from illegals. They send about 20-25 billion back a year.
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>>720571730

you better believe guatemala paid for them traffic cones tho
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>>720572108
That's a prison wall bozo.
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>>720572196
>implying that locks (walls, in this case, moron) don't keep honest people honest
I can see that you've never spent a minute of your life studying security.
I bet you don't even know you're shitposting about something you know nothing of.
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>>720572931
Yep. That pays for the proposed $7 Billion wall in less than a year.
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>>720573015
Its a border wall in Israel!!!
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>>720572627
Bring in drugs through Cuba you idiot. The wall isn't even an issue for us at this point. You need those illegals to do those jobs moron.
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Because 20 % tarrif. Everyones acting like it just affects mexican stuff like tequilla and corona but a lot of produce we eat is from mexico due to our drastic seasons in the midwest. They also build parts for american cars...clothes...guitars...i mean a ton of stuff.
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>>720567604
I don't know - if it were up to me, I'd build a wall around all of the US - to keep the buggers in.
That way we'd be free of their constant fucking warfare and shit.
Isolate the US and save the rest of the world.
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>>720572734
Source that quote, since you did use quotations and all.

Also this is probably the most juvenile, retarded way to look at the situation.

At the moment, Mexico's government is ENCOURAGING illegal immigration. At the moment, Mexico's government is AIDING narcotics trafficking.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/world/americas/a-mexican-manual-for-illegal-migrants-upsets-some-in-us.html?_r=0

So, no. You don't just approach the situation with an olive branch when they've already spit in your face. That's not how the real world works. Grow the fuck up. Sometimes force and blunt language is necessary. The diplomatic situation with Mexico is one of those times.
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>>720572627
You can't force someone to pay for something even if you are the US. Idiot. They refuse you tax them. They pass the cost onto consumers.
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>>720572627
Illegals also don't file taxes and get none back unlike you Amerifats. That say I pay my taxes...but get a refund check. That's literally the opposite of paying taxes. You got your money back you moron.
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>>720573209
It's says in Hebrew : "Ofer Prison Facility".
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>>720573251
You just said it would be easier to take drugs, manufactured in Mexico, across to Cuba and then into the US instead of the current strategy of walking/driving them across the land border.

We don't need any illegals. You're clearly one dumb motherfucker and don't have a logical reason as to why it's a bad idea or how it could possibly inconvenience law-abiding citizens on both sides of the border.

Way to go, faggot. :^)
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>>720567604
they dont have a problem with it. it benefits them greatly. most people dont realize it but mexico has tougher border laws then the US does.
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You folks realize that America includes Canada, USA,Mexico,Central/South America.
USA Is the country we live in, America is a geographical location.
Trump must have been asleep during world geography class.
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>>720573437
>You got your money back you moron.

Only if you're a poor nigger with no assets. White people with REAL jobs pay more in taxes then they get back.
RWE, i just paid a little over 150k on my business in taxes.
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>>720567604

>when the Trumpets believe any fake news

kek
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>>720568661
It's got majority support already. Don't ever doubt Trump again, as he has proven you wrong every single time.
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>>720573288
>a lot of produce we eat is from mexico

And we export 70% of US produce because we don't need it. Do you idiots even realize the ONLY reason the US even imports shit from Mexico is because you'd fucking starve south of the border otherwise?

We don't NEED to import produce from Mexico. We don't NEED your illegal labor. For fuck's sake, the only reason we signed NAFTA in the first place is because your country was going to literally starve to death because we have SUCH an advantage and we felt sorry for you fucking retards.

I don't think you realize how many trade deals we've signed JUST so other countries don't sink into the fucking ocean or implode. We did it out of generosity, to keep food in YOUR country so you would stay the fuck there and not pollute The Greatest Country in The World (and still the only Superpower).

Mexico's GDP 1.4~ Trillion /year
USA GDP 17 Trillion/year

Tell us again how WE, Americans, NEED you dumbass beaners when it's clearly the other way around.

kek
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>>720573562
Trump just realizes, like the rest of us, that the USA is the only country that matters on the continent. So, yeah, we're basically America.

Cry about it.
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>>720573875
The real reasons are that it allows us to have seasonal produce year round and easy access to tropical produce.
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>>720574008
This guy understands agriculture.
>>720573875
This guy thinks avocados grow in Maine
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>>720572210
But unlike you or me, he's the US president, despite being a 'tard.
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America pays for the wall twice.
First, America finances the building.
Then a tax is placed on imported goods.
So the price of goods is increased by that amount.
Americans still buy the goods because it's still cheaper than buying domestic, or products are not available, such as off-season produce.
So America pays a second time.
Trump takes credit for building wall and having Mexico pay for it.
Idiot Trump supporters believe, or don't care because admitting their mistake is to embarrassing.
Drug smugglers still get around, over, or under the wall.
American farms have a hard time finding cheap seasonal labor, retirement homes have a hard time finding cheap care people, no more Home Depot labor pool, etc.
The price of living in America goes up.
America pays a third time.
On we go to more stupid stuff.
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>>720567604
OP's pic was taken in israel tho
There isn't a wall between mexico and guatemala
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>>720574008
Oh noes, i have to pay more for bananas?
What will i do anon? I guess I'm better off just doling out 25billion a year in welfare so i can save 15c on fruit.
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>>720574008
>seasonal produce year round
>easy access to tropical produce

Both of these are luxuries, not necessities, and neither one contradicts anything I said so I don't know where your "real reasons" faggotry came from as if I said anything that was untrue.

Way to go, fuckboi.
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>>720568359
Not knowing what a tarrif is ...

Ffs
Should have never visited /b/
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>>720574151
Since when did avocados become a necessity?

Ever hear of the California Avocado Commission, you dumb fuck?

Again, we don't NEED Mexico's avocados. Do you beaners not know the definition of that word?
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>>720568503
>China
Probably cost as many lives as it saved
>Berlin
Two college students dug under it and completely bypassed all that shit in like two months. Guess what the cartels have up and down the border?
>Israel
The wall wasn't built to fit the land it was supposed to go around, and the rules for crossing are super arbitrary. A lot of locals lost their farms because of it, not that it helped much
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>>720572791
Yeah, fucking cubans
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>>720574229
I was wondering about that. I used Google Earth to look at random spots, and couldn't ID anything that looked like that.
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>>720573437
Refund checks are for when you overpay. If you were smart, you would match your tax burden to your monthly withholdings.
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>>720567604

>mexico
>guatemala
>desert

ok.......
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>>720574524
>>720574524
>The Israel Wall didn't do much

Number of terrorist attacks the year before wall was constructed: 167

Number of attacks in 2012: 9

Yeah, their terrorist attacks virtually dropped to zero but a couple of farmers lost some land and their rules are like SO super arbitrary and basically Hitler so it was a total failure.
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>>720569219
you dumb bastard

>1 acre castle totally = 3,100 KM
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>>720568413
but then mexican goods won't pay the import tax, and the american taxpayers will still pay for the wall.
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>>720575236
>167 attacks over ??? years
>9 attacks in one year

K
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I voted trump to watch hin destroy america so whatever he does I am 100% behind


So far he is doing a damn goid job at fuckin up everything
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>>720575236
>Yeah, their terrorist attacks virtually dropped to zero but a couple of farmers lost some land and their rules are like SO super arbitrary and basically Hitler so it was a total failure.

fuckin kek this is really how liberals think and then they wonder why no one takes them seriously
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>>720575514
On phone, excuse terrible spelling lol
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>>720568940
>Implying china is overrun by rabbits now
Fuck you, the wall worked and the rabbits gone
You're the one who needs a history lesson
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Rich old white fucks like drumf sending jobs to china selling out the US. no no it was the mexicans they took our jerbs build a pointless wall MAGA. how are people this fucking stupid?
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>>720575293
The claim was:
>Walls have NEVER WORKED IN THE HISTORY OF EVER.
Castle walls count. I preemptively accept your apology. Have a wonderful day.
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>>720575453
Are you literally fucking retarded or just illiterate? I'm genuinely curious right now. Can you not read or does your brain not know how to process the words in my post?
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Guys wait... what if the border wall is meant to keep Americans in instead of Mexicans out?
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>>720567604
Because the poor and stupid are leaving their country and becoming America's problem. Then when America is like "Hey fuck you we don't like those people" they're like "You racist, intolerant, heartless people! We need to foster a good relationship between our nations and building walls won't do that!"

It is ENTIRELY to Mexico's benefit for their worst people to be able to emigrate freely, and the possible new tariffs would cripple the Mexican agricultural industry, since more than 60% of their produce is sold to the USA.
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>>720573291
As an American:
This, please.
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>>720572512
yeah but they used that to keep out dragons and shit so completely different /b/ro
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>>720574167
well, that settles everything
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>>720575816
>Because the poor and stupid are leaving their country and becoming America's problem.

cite your sources kiddo, just like in school :^)
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>>720567604
They have no problem with the wall. Just the notion that they will be paying for it.

Geographically, the mexico-guatemalan border is a lot smaller than the us-mexican border. Mexico has no interest in footing the bill for something that will damage US-mexican relations that much.
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>>720567604
Because sending their violent criminals here is cheaper than housing them in Mexican Prisons
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>>720575726
>before the wall
>are you retarded? I was so specific
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Most of americans are illegals, they stole this land to indians.
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>>720575236

Mexico isn't launching terrorist attacks though. If the issue is illegal immigration the real solution is to start jailing the businesspeople doing the hiring. That fact that we're not doing that indicates that the whole thing is a bullshit scam to make it look like we're doing something definitive and strong while maintaining the status quo.

On the other hand if the the interest is more strategic then walls and fences have their obvious benefits but the main driving factor for that kind of insecurity is the Drug War and that can be addressed through a myriad of policy options at a fraction of the cost.
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>>720573291
>constant warfare

You mean pulling all you other faggots out of the fire when you're getting genocided to all fuck by whichever crazy ass hyper-religious/hyper-fascist/hyper-racist dictator decides to roll through your woods this decade?

If you're so against us intervening in the affairs of other countries why the fuck do you look to us every time there's a fucking kosovo or a syria situation? Why are we always the "go-to" people to stop it?

>stop trying to police the world and be big, bad world bullies!

>but, hey, could you come save us whenever there's a milosevic or a hitler or a putin?

Fucking hypocrites.
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Fuck beaners, but the Mexican issue is always used as a distraction from more important issues like op being a fag
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>>720574218
Your next recession will bite you guys hard

But I bet that Trump will blame:

The liberals
The mexicans
The muslims
And/or all of the above
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>>720575995
Name one Mexican millionaire that hopped the border fence into the USA in order to live here and establish a business.

It's always the poor and desperate that flee their countries, and they're poor because they're not educated.

Hard workers? Sure. Skilled workers? Not so much. Potential skilled workers? Only if the USA is willing to pay to train them.

They're Mexico's people, so they're Mexico's problem. The Wall is entirely merited and justified.
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>>720572083
the wall idea is absolutely fucking bonkers.

that said, utilising multiple operational bases (of battalion and below size), and the existing national guard forces of the border states to secure the border would be a much more cost effective measure, and would make a "virtual" wall as it were.

if you placed a major operation base (for forces no larger then a brigade more commonly manned by battalion size elements) every 125 miles of the border, outfitted with long range ground surveillance equipment with 4 smaller company size outposts in the intervening gap)for interdiction and apprehension) you could fully man the border wit the existing national gaurd elements of the border states and more importantly secure the border just as well, if not better then a passive security like a simple wall.
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>>720576176
>terrorist attacks THE YEAR before the wall was built

Do I have to type it a third time, in the exact same way, for your broken ass brain to comprehend? What the fuck else could the above sentence possibly mean? How are you possibly reading that incorrectly? It's as specific as it can get.
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>>720576255


>>720576255

This
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>>720576255
This, the faggotry of the op's is the real issue, and yet none seem to care
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>>720576199
And then we have a wash of 16 million unemployed illegal immigrants wandering around unable to find work because the employers are penalized. Surely crime won't become an issue.

It's easier to allow the ones already here to integrate and just take steps to prevent more from coming.
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>>720576380
Over how many years?
9 attacks per year for 19 years is 171 attacks
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>>720576504
>The YEAR
>YEAR
>SINGLE YEAR
>ONE YEAR BEFORE THE WALL

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>720576199
Do you think there are some kind of special walls that only stop terrorists or something you dumb fuck?

The goal is to stop criminals from crossing our border illegally. Yes, not every one of them is a drug smuggler or rapist or whatever the fuck but 100% of them BECOME felons the second they break our federal laws by crossing our border illegally. So, yes, 100% of them crossing illegally ARE criminals.

The Israel wall keeps bodies (terrorists) out.

The US wall will keep bodies (smugglers, coyotes, illegal immigrants) out.

How is that a hard fucking concept for you?
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>>720568430
>walls have never worked
Walk into one right now
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>>720576583
See how easy it is to specify?

Now how was the rest of the region affected?
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beanerfag reporting in , the only problem we have with trumpo building a wall is that he wants ''US'' to pay for it , otherwise war will fall before us , in other terms i dont even care
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>>720576583
Right? I had to re-read my original post to make sure I wasn't going crazy but that other anon is just....retarded, I guess. Like, not even joking retarded.

Year
1.
the time taken by a planet to make one revolution around the sun.
2.
the period of 365 days (or 366 days in leap years) starting from the first of January, used for reckoning time in ordinary affairs
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>>720567604
it might make tunnels harder to dig, they might also want us to spend the money and building material on roads instead which would be kind of a bro move of them even if they just want it for international trade with us
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>>720576586
because you think it will keep people out. its a 2000 mile long border. you would need to have a border guard staffed every mile along the wall 24/7 to prevent people from just going over, under, or through it. night vision binoculars, weapons, vehicles. plus getting them out to their posts. much of that wall would be hundreds of miles from any existing cities, youd probably need to create barracks every 200 miles or so to be able to get people to and from the wall in time. not to mention actually building the wall. its hard enought o build something in the middle of a city, how do you build a wall when there are no roads for miles and miles? not impossible, but not cheap. people tossing around 35 billion for this wall are severely underestimating it. 100billion total cost by 2030, at least.
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>>720573478
>>720573209
>>720573015
>>720572108
>>720572563
thats the wall for ofer prison
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>>720567604
...and did Guatemala pay for that "spectacular wall"?
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>>720568359
its already paid for. trump got 3 major automotive companies to start building in the united states again (instead of mexico). that almost covers it lol
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>>720574218
If the price of imported goods goes up won't that stimulate growth in the need for domestic goods?
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>>720576504
>>720576380
>>720576583
>>720576899
excellent
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>>720577037
Honestly, you can probably keep the border outposts in the areas actually near cities, and just make... "hazards" in the no-man's-lands.

They cross near a city? Border patrol gets them.

They cross out in the desert a long ways from any civilization? Hopefully they brought supplies, because
A) They're in the fucking desert and no one's going to be out there to help them
B) If we just dig a bunch of holes for them to fall into, they're gonna have a bad time and the US can't be blamed because they're "natural" hazards rather than active traps like landmines or armed guards.
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>>720577091
I'd rather spend tax money on a wall, then have a democratic president send $400 million to Iran or $221 million to Palestine, as Obama did. I'd rather spend on a wall then to spend on social programs and humanities studies that are just used to indoctrinate people into feminism/communism.
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>>720576317
>The Wall is entirely merited and justified.
I'll agree that it's a nice concept.
I will not agree that Mexico ends up footing the bill. America will pay twice under Trump's deception. Just say we pay for it and be done with it. That's how it works. It's the lie that Mexico pays for it that drives me crazy.
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>>720576254
>mfw this is what americans actually believe
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>>720577315
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>>720576262
Didn't Obama blame bush for 8 years?
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>>720577315
That's honestly not that much money compared to the wall (The wall, optimistically, is literally 50x more expensive than those two combined), but the I understand the sentiment.

They're our enemies: We shouldn't be sending them money.
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>>720577521
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>>720577037
This entire post is just patently false.

>prevent people from going over, under, or through it

Motion sensors, cameras, and if we're feeling frisky we'll just electrify the whole thing. You don't need a static guard every mile, you idiot. Roving guards are a thing.

>35 billion, 60 billion, 100 billion

The highest estimate I've heard so far is 15, but who gives a fuck since Mexico's paying for it anyway? Certainly not me.

Just plugging your ears and saying "It'll never work" won't make the wall go away, faggot. Did you not learn your lesson 2 months ago?

>Trump will never be the nominee!
>Protest!
>Trump will never be president!
>Protest!
>Trump will never get inaugurated!
>Protest!

>Today, in the real world, Trump is President.
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>>720568430

It would keep people from trying to make the desert crossing and dying in the heat, which is alarmingly common. That's when their paid guides aren't robbing them or raping their women. Said guides leave old people and women with children to die when they get too weak to keep walking. Oh, and Mexico's economy relies heavily on remittances of money from relatives in the US, it's those remittances that will be taxed and not imports.

See, you actually don't give a fuck about the logic of it, you're angry at Trump and he's very purposefully made you angry with everything he does in order to get the other half of the country who did vote for him to stop listening to you. It's working, liberals can't stop pissing themselves at everything he does or says and have stooped incredibly low in their responses with everything from sexual jokes you would normally find disgusting to actual violence which normally would disturb you greatly.

I don't care if he builds the wall or not, he's already built a wall around open discussion of liberal ideas that's like 10 miles high. It's going to take so long to get over that wall that by the time anyone does his 8 years will already be over.
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>>720577182
Shhhh...liberals like to pretend they're educated but not a single one has ever attended a micro or macroeconomics course clearly.
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>>720577182
Or Mexico will capitulate to American requests in order to lower or suspend the tariff, since they benefit from economic activity with us more than we benefit from them.

Like paying for a $30 billion wall. If they agreed to that, that tariff would probably be lower.
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>>720577054
>>720573478
>>720573015
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>>720577429

Great Corny Ass Meme #1,503

You still can't prove me wrong, faggot.

You're fucking hypocrites to the core.

>Everyone looking to the US right now to spearhead an offensive against Putin in Syria

>Soldiers actively training IA and dying because their people are too pussy to stand up to a wingnut religious terrorist group in their own fucking country

>b-b--but America's just a big war bully!

Then we tell you to fuck off and close our borders to handle our own affairs

>b-b-b-but that's racist and islamophobic and 100 other things because you want secure borders like everyone else in the world

Which one is it, faggots? You can't have it both ways. I wouldn't give one fuck if Putin drove his fucking tanks right up your ass through eastern Europe and slaughtered you all. Just don't call us to bail your ass out again.
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>>720576583
>>720576380
>>720576176
>>720575453

This whole thing destroyed my sides. Thank you anons, much lels and keks were had
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Who is responsible for the black cocks getting into the white buttholes and mouths?
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That %20 tax was an off handed example of just one possible way to get Mexico to pay, a statement made by the White House Press secretary. The reason everyone keeps mentioning it is because of bullshit news article headlines that caused fake articles to be written in response to the other fake headlines....

There is the near 24billion a year that could be blocked from illigal aliens sendng home. There is also "humanitarian" aid money, the amount of which we will have insite on in the next 30 days, per executive order.
Mexico is gonna get the fucking it deserves, and their dipshits ex president Fox keeps writing bigger ass fucking checks with his attitude. Dude makes a threatening sign, a gesture that he wants to shoot trump.
And let's not forget mexico trYong to lay claim to not half, but all of Guzman's assets. Sure thing fuckers, we can apply it to the wall for you.
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>>720578165
Do you think a teacher could say what you said and get away with it today? Our teachers never spoke this way and I was last in school 10 years ago
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>>720578165
Ah, but clearly it's the US's fault that there was a failed revolution to depose Assad's dictatorship, and crackdown by Assad's regime on protestors, because the protestors were emulating the success of Egypt's deposing of THEIR dictator Mubarak, and Egypt's revolution was spurred by western democratic philosophies and values and facilitated by western technologies and techniques.

Therefore, the USA caused the collapse of Syria. Also, ISIS exists because of the USA's intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, so that's all their fault too, even though if the USA had never bothered with a war then it would be the Taliban and Al Qaeda doing the exact same shit ISIS is doing instead.
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Is Bibi /our guy/??

https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/825371795972825089
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Its not the mexican govenment that send their people to immigrate here retards...
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>>720578854
And the media wonders why nobody trusts it.
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Im from Mexico and I dont recall having any wall on our south border.
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>mfw trump supporters think a wall is going to stop them

>mfw when trump supporters dont relize they build tunnels to

have with your billions of dollars worth of wasted tax payer money because "make america great again"
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>>720579042
They don't send them, but they also create an environment where their people would rather emigrate to a country that doesn't speak their language, and doesn't want them, often endangering or losing their own lives in the process, than continue to live in Mexico, and the Mexican government is happy to see them go because when they cross over into our border, they become our problem instead of theirs.
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>>720579042

you understand mexico doesnt actually send anyone to america right,they come on there own

mexico must of pissed in donald trump and 95 percent of his supporters cheerios at sometime for the amount of hatred they seem to have a country that hasnt effected any of their lives much
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the photo is from CHINA!
China airport.
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>>720579210
>Implying a tunnel is harder to contain than a vast open border

Holy shit how stupid will libs keep proving themselves to be?
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>>720579396
The tunnels come out inside Mexican restaurants
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>>720567604
Because they are going to lose money as a result from illegal immigrants sending money to their families in Mexico. In short, they are benefitting from there not being a wall so they of course oppose the construction of a wall. They care about themselves.

TL;DR: It is good for the US to build a wall.
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>>720579396
You can see a long way across a border because it's above ground. You can't see a tunnel above ground.
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>>720579280
Thats just not true the mexican government dose not make its own country shitty inorder for people to leave you would have to be delusional to believe that... also if anything its americas fualt mexico is a hell hole the cartels there are not selling their drugs locally. America the the largest drug market in the world. Thats not even taking into account all of the shaddy shit that the CIA has done in south america. Dont get me wrong america is not the source of all of mexicos problems that lead to people immigating but we are definitely a huge factor.
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>>720579294

A decade ago the Mexican government issued pamphlet form guides on how to safely enter the United States illigally.
https://www.dallas.org/content/mexicos-official-guide-mexican-migrant

It's mostly a guide how not to die, then how to get legal help from Mexico to then stay....
So fuck you and your "Mexico doesn't actually send anyone"
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15 Billion dollars is a lot of money for a piece of concrete with little economic benefit. We are at the lowest rate of illegal immigration in over 40 years and most illegal immigrants are people that overstayed their visas.

Building a continuous wall along the Mexico border would be the largest public works project ever in America without any of the economic benefit something like our highway system or dams had.

We are literally pissing away 15 billion dollars just so some jackasses in the rust belt can feel like they did something.

Ironic thing is I imagine a majority of the labor used for the wall will be illegal immigrants.
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>>720579808
Tunnels are above ground. The fence is underground
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>>720578986
Wew lad

Get a load of the mental gymnastics these liberal faggots have to go through to somehow blame the US for shit they had nothing to do with. Countries fight civil wars all the time. Syria is fighting theirs now. You sound like a real idiot trying to blame the US because they're too weak to overthrow their tyrannical government on their own.

You literally just made my point for me. Syrians rose up and tried to overthrow their dictator on their own. They were too weak. Now people are expecting the US to help for whatever fucking reason. We go over there, start blowing shit up and the same liberals are going to bitch and complain we're just bullies.

Every one of you talk out of both sides of your fucking mouths and are the least likely to ever pick up a rifle and defend anything yourselves. It's pathetic, honestly.

I could've kissed my television when I heard Trump put an executive order in to stop all syrian migration immediately. Stay the fuck out of my country.
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>>720579042
No, they just print manuals on how to effectively cross the border without being caught by US border patrol and hand them out in Mexico, fucking retard.
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Why don't they make the wall more stylish? A chain link fence looks so trashy and ghetto.
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>>720579920
So it seems to me like Mexico should build some sort of wall between them and the USA in order to prevent drug cartels from financing their criminal activity.

Oh wait...
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>>720574218
/thread
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>>720572775
Yet.
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>>720580069
No need to attack me man, I was agreeing with you.

The argument that people blaming the US have is shitty and completely ignores the idea of people being responsible for their own actions.

Read my post again and insert </sarcasm> at the end.
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>>720579920
What kind of "shaddy shit" has the CIA done in Mexico this week that stops you from buying your daily taco, faggot?

Your country was shit before the cartels, it's still shit now that there are cartels. That's no excuse. Even if you completely eliminated the US market, your cartels would just act even more out of control because they're all still competing for the remaining European, Asian, African, Canadian, South American, and Australian markets.

How about you take some personal responsibility you smelly beaner.
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>>720580502
Why would anyone want to steal a giant garbage fire by force?
We don't want Mexico, that's why we build the wall, to separate ourselves from the burning garbage.
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>>720579985
>found the butthurt mexicant
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>>720567744
Idiot grammar.
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>>720567604
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>>720579985
And how much do you think Obama bailouts cost America with hardly any benefit.
And we aren't just worried about stopping new border bunnies, we want to eject the ones already in as well. So if illigals are dumb enough to try to get work at the wall, it just makes it easier to toss them over.
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All week long, Boss-man say,
Work Mexican, work
Sing your song, earn your pay
Work Mexican, work
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>>720567604
really have no idea cause the only people it is really going to fuck over is texans that live along the border.
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>>720581058
We'll probably just take a tip from the Great Wall of China and chuck their bodies INTO the wall when we're pouring the concrete.
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>>720581090
As a white guy that works in a steel mill that's enjoying his first day off in 10 days?

Go fuck yourself.
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>>720580687

To put the cartels within US jurisdiction. Forcing them to pass through a legal mine field in order to get to the lucrative markets (major US cities) some of which are near the current boarder (LA, Dallas, San Diego, Las Vegas) and once that shits in the US it scatters like rats and is impossible to stop all of it. Sure the cartels would just move further south, but it would force them to transport their product significantly further. So from a strictly drug enforcement standpoint it would help, but not completely solve the problem, although that pro is no where near enough to out weigh the cons
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>>720581262
Yeah, stopping the cartels and half-dead and dehydrated illegal immigrants from trespassing on their land and making their homes unsafe will sure fuck those Texans good. You're right.
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>>720571547
That looks like Puerto Quetzal outside the cruise ship terminal.
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>>720581289
How about the Mexican military actually does its job and routs the cartels?

Oh wait, the Mexican military is funded by the cartels.

Well surely the Mexican government would re-take control of the military and root out corruption.

Oh wait, the government officials have no authority without the military, and the cartels make things MUCH harder for them when they try to fight back by killing innocent people and kidnapping children.

>USA pls help us also you're racist
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>>720581425
No the fact that there the ones going to lose property as the government just takes it away to build the wall. Also the cartels do not give a shit most there drugs come to america by water or plane sometimes they build tunnels witch a wall is not going to stop any of that.
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>>720581524
How about the reason there are cartels is cause of the american government.
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Here's some insight how Orbán's wall "works" in the southern border of Hungary.
National TV reports every day how many illegals got caught and boasts about how great and efficient the wall is.
In reality the guards have to travel hours on back of trucks for and back from their posts. There's no shelters from rain, their daily food is disgusting (food poisonings are common). Most of them are on the verge of quitting and don't fucking care about the wall. Human traffickers have better equipment anyway. Smugglers have better drones, better shelters, and using mobile fence cutting equipment quickly and efficiently.

All in all, walls work only when the guards are motivated, well fed and paid. Israel's wall works because their ultranationalist military can man the guard posts with enough motivated guards. I'm doubtful about the same for the US.
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>>720581648
They can also use 3D printers to print out drugs
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>>720581289
Yeah, but then we have another Puerto Rican problem that would make us responsible for the people. Compared To Puerto Rico, there is worse loss/gain ratio for Mexico.
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>>720581721
>Implying Mexican people have no agency and didn't make the decision themselves
>Implying Mexicans are blameless
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>>720581648
>Lose property
100% of people who "lose" land will be paid for it not to mention, again, I'm sure they'll be more than happy if it makes safer

>most of the cartels drugs come by water
Wrong.

http://www.businessinsider.com/16-maps-of-drug-flow-into-the-united-states-2012-7

>they build tunnels
As another anon already pointed out, you sound stupid as fucking implying a tunnel 8 feet wide is harder to monitor than 2000 miles of open border. It also costs tens of millions to build those tunnels, so let them have at it. We'll find them like we always do, use a controlled detonation, and destroy them. It only hurts their bottom line in the end. The wall will hurt their profits by stopping their above ground traffic. The tunnels will hurt their profit because we can and do find them and destroy them which costs them enormous amounts every time. It's a win-win. Also you're a dipshit.
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>>720581735
Given that Texan citizens have been asking for YEARS for permission to assist on the border and to use live gunfire as a deterrent, methinks there will be plenty of motivated guards for at least a few years.
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>>720581752
http://gizmodo.com/smugglers-molded-nearly-400-million-worth-of-cocaine-i-1747938243
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>>720582191

Cant for some methheads to start shooting a bunch of kids.
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>>720582137
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/us/us-mexico-border-wall-tunnels.html?_r=0
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/14/sophisticated-drug-cartel-tunnel-linking-san-diego-mexico-found/95422628/

And these are just the ones they have found
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>>720580635
Learn to read dumbass im from the US also take your own advise and dont be ignorant of how we meddle in the affairs of south american countries shit iran contra is just what we have caught them doing. If americans didn't have such an appitite for cheap mexican drugs the cartels would not be able to excersice control over the region like they do. Mexico was not always a shit whole what are you talking about you ignorant red neck read a fucking book and keep your mouth shut about things you know nothing about.
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>>720582137
Hmm a dipshit well ain't that nice how is the air up there on your high horse ya cunt
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>>720574446
Go to h8 chon /pol/ . no shitposting
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>>720581735
If the called open season for all border guards to shoot on site, I'm confident their would be no problem with motivation. You would have people paying for the opportunity to hunt from wall.
Trump is good at buisness, he could open up some trump hunting resort along the wall.
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>>720582473
You're going back , Paco
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>>720580242
Unlike trump they are smart enough to know a giant wall is not going to stop people from moving between the boarders
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>>720582473
Actually, looking through World History, the best period for Mexico (insofar as there was a minimum of civil strife [mostly because it was administrated by Spain]) was when it controlled Florida.

Which was like 350 years ago. So not a great track record.
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>>720574515
Lol you are my hero
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>>720582793
I was gonna say the have been shit for decades, but centuries does sound more accurate.
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>>720582706
To new york??...Look here billy if you think trump is going to live up to his promises then you must be even stupider then i am assuming you are
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>>720582366
I'm really not sure wtf the point of posting that was, you just supported my position not your own.

kek
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>>720582793
Not always a shit hole what is your point ? They were even better off before that actually you know like when they had one of the greatest civilizations in the world...
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>>720583386
You mean when the Aztecs were sacrificing people by the thousands? Or when the Mayans were sacrificing people by the thousands?

Because "Greatest civilization in the world" is reallllllly subjective when literally the entire world is shit.
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>>720567604
>Hey /b/ros. I didn't vote but am confused about the wall thing. Why does Mexico have a problem with us building a wall?


Because Trump said MEAN THINGS, so LITERALLY everything he does is bad.
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>>720582483
Fresh and wetback-free, just how i like it. :^)
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>>720568430
>FAHKING MONGORIANS
>AWAYS TRYNA BWEAK DOWN MY SHEETY WAHL!!!
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>>720582473
So you're basically admitting that white people have made you our bitch? Since apparently us buying some weed on the weekend holds more sway over your entire country's affairs than your entire government and military?

Ok, Taco.
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>>720568318
Underrated
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This is fake you stupid fucktards
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>>720567604
>hypocricy
>it's
>line
>random capitalized words

Whoever made this is a confirmed primary school drop out backwoods filth. Purge the earth of this bottom of the barrel scum along with their cheeto messiah.
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>>720569261
I saw Marco Polo
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>>720567604
They don't have a say about whether we build a wall. I think they''re problem is with who pays for it.
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>>720583647
I bet the cartels are fucking furious that weed is legal in like 6 states now.

I mean, they've still got cocaine, and the arabs have still got heroin, but that's probably a big chunk of their business gone.

"I wanna get high."
"Okay, we'll go for a 4 hour drive and buy 4 pounds of weed for 1/10th what it used to cost 5 years ago."
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>>720583179
>Said he was going to build a wall

>Is fast-tracking blueprints through Congress as of last week

>Paul Ryan has said they're breaking ground in 90-120 days

Yeah, you're totally stupid to believe he'd actually keep a campaign promise. What were you thinking, idiot?
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>>720568359
We will not buy Mexican goods when that happens and mexico will suffer for it.

They are paying for it in other ways if/when it happens.

That's like saying "tarriffs on automakers moving out just make Americans pay more"

Automakers stayed lol
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>>720583903

Tax the remittances, that's it

We don't even have to tax goods entering, just tax the money sent back.
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>>720583495
Yes i do mean them just because they were not perfect does not mean they were not great . You always have to judge them in context of the time and their contemporaries. So for 2000bc yes they are pretty great
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>>720583386
Oh right, before Mexico existed. They probably DID have a great civilization. Mexicans always turn everything to shit when they show up.
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>>720583647
No like i said billy bob learn to read before you comment on things you know nothing about.
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>>720584030
And today they're shit. And 20 years ago they were shit. And 100 years ago they were shit. And 150 years ago they were sort of okay.
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>>720568430
Dont pay the extra 20% then, mexico's economy will shrink. IE mexico pays.

It actually pays more with a 20% tax.
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>>720577315
opting for any of these options seems fucking retarded
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Ask the people of Berlin the problem with a wall.
Stupid Americans
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>>720583509
I do not know that load trump is shooting across your back looks wet.
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>>720584030
So, according to your logic, we're completely on the same page calling Mexicans pieces of shit when, in comparison to their contemporaries in the year 2017, they're basically competing for last place with certain African countries.

Glad we can agree on that.
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>>720583955
Yes that is why he drained the swamp and hillary is in jail right?... see i can pick and choose promises when its convenient too . Also his promise is not simply to build the wall but to have mexico pay for it thats an important distinction. As of yet he has no clue how hes going to do this. Shit you retards voted for a guy who is not even a republican so if anyone is an idiot its all you fools who fell for the bullshit.
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>>720571655
A tax increase does not increase the prices of goods linear.

Economic opportunity curve says otherwise.
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>>720584105
Thats exactly what you just said though.

You literally said Americans buying drugs are the reason your country is a shithole filled with cartels.

Where are your police? Where is your military? Where is your government? The motherfuckers that are supposed to run a half-decent country and stop assholes like that?

Personal responsibility.
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>>720584064
Actually you confusing that with white people. Thats not even an opinion it a historical fact
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>>720584125
Again not always shit what is your point
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>>720584401
Yes Mexico is a shit now what is your point. Oh wait you dont have one...
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>>720584388
The Berlin wall was built to keep people in.
Our border wall is being built to keep people out.

You couldn't have made a shittier, more uneducated comparison if you tried.

Also, it was highly effective at doing the job it was designed for. Again, the US had to come save you dumbasses and sent Hasselhoff to dropkick it with a sledgehammer and sing some songs.
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>>720567744
Beaner here and it's too late. Too many crossed over and had their kids here. I hope you guys enjoy being the minority in 50 years
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>>720567604

Fake news.

Here's the REAL wall. It's a 5-meter steel-reinforced wall stretching the border with towers every 1/2 km and manned 24/7 with armed guards -- when it comes to border security, the Mexican gov't spares no expense, drawing from its massive budget & military surpluses.
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>>720584729
>Yes Mexico is a shit

That WAS the point, Paco. Keep up.
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>>720567604
Pretty sure we forced the to build that. Also they didnt try to make their neighbors pay for it
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>>720567604
because their number one source of income is from illegal mexican aliens working in the us. if we build all and kick them out - they wil has no monies;
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Total misinformation. They have portions febced off like we do. There is no continous border wall on mexico south border. More lies/ignorance from Trumpanzees
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>>720584734
Eventually there will be a white homeland set up and the parts of North America that are brown will be in the same predicament that Africa and South America again. Whitey will learn from the mistakes he made in the last 50 years and all will be right in the world again.
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>>720584482
>8 days
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OP here. This is my second post since OP.
I forgot about this thread but... Wow. So much butthurt.
>The Democrats have a fucking hivemind.
>Republicans are smug twats

You fags are so easily baited
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>>720584800
And yet, they never asked Central America to pay for it.
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>>720585076
Are in* I apologize I'm drunk.
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>>720578018

I googled it and all the news outlets take the tweet seriously... but still, it reads like something a parodist would tweet. I mean, whenever there's not a truce, suicide bombers get into Jerusalem every single week regardless of the wall.
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I already said this like 5 posts ago billy bob your late. Leave up to white people to show up late to the house party and claim their the ones thowing it. Nice try though
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>>720584571
What historical revisionist explained that one to you? Some Lib tard college proffessor using semantics to propagate anti white sentiment? I had one actually say that the Big Lie of Columbus was white superiority and nationalism, and flat out denied it had anything to do with discovery of the Americas
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>>720573437
Refund checks are for when you overpay your tax.

Now EIC tax credit means you got welfare and didn't pay taxes. Usually blacks get this.
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>>720585251
Explain yourself.
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>>720573317
>Source that quote, since you did use quotations and all.

Your probably are stupid enough to think it's a literal quote.

/alternative quote in your parlance.
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>>720585270
Do Spaniards count as white people? I mean, they're lighter skinned than their Mexican mutt offspring, but I wouldn't really compare them to French or Swiss or Dutch or English.
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>>720574218
>>720571655

These all work under the assumption that American importers will accept the price increase by the Mexican exporters.
If the buyers collectively give them a great big "fuck you, nope", then Mexico eats the cost.
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>>720584482
You're butthurt and it's hilarious. I get it. But you look like a complete moron posting "hurr durr he'll never keep campaign promises" in a thread that's precisely about how he's keeping a campaign promise, you enormous dildo.

He DID drain the swamp of career politicians with his cabinet picks which was the context of that promise the entire time, idiot.

>hurr durr he's got no clue how he's going to do this

How many times have you seen people even ITT talk about the 20% import tax? You're willfully keeping your head in the sand and just spewing dumbshit because you lost. Grow the fuck up already and people might actually give a moment's thought to some position you may have.

You're on the wrong side of history, pull your head out of your ass and realize that normal people do not spend 2 months whining and bitching like a 3 year old, they get on with their lives.
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>>720585270
Read a book and you dont need some lib-tard professor to tell you anything. Half of american history in general is about native populations declining once some white dude 'discoverd' them. Usually the natives take them in as friends and then are betrayed. Look it up you wont have to look far
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>>720585375
No its their read it lazy fucks
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>>720585429
That was just one of many reasons his statements were fucking retarded.
This dip shit when on to say the concept of nationalism did not exist prior to Spain's expansionism in the 16th century. Oh and dispite Spain inventing nationalism, it's still a wholly white supremist idiology... professor is off his fucking meds.
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>>720584800

In addition to the wall and armed guards, the Mexicans patrol their southern border with drones and F-15 flyovers for good measure. They also use Israeli-trained K-9 units for nighttime patrols.
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We don´t have a problem.
you can build it anytime you want, you pay for it.
before it´s done we are removing all check points looking for central and south american immigrants and there is no point looking for terrorists or illegal drugs... the wall will stop all that too.

Have fun my gringos !
your friendly neighbors.
M.
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>>720575236
Lol

Let's build a wall to stop attacks!

Wall stops attacks

"The wall is a failure"

Lmao wow
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>>720585174
Israel had 11 suicide bombings last year. Do explain how the fuck it happens every week dipshit

>52 weeks in a year
>11 suicide bombings in 52 weeks
>IT LITERALLY HAPPENS EVERY WEEK GUIZE
>LITERALLLY SHAKING

Another example of dumbfuck liberals and their ass backwards "logic.". .
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>>720576487
Encouraging even more illegals
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>>720585174
You googled it? Cool. Then you can post a source to substantiate your claim "suicide bombers get into jerusalem every single week."

According to this source, that actually tracks suicide bombings in Israel, there were a total of 11 in 2016.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/comprehensive-listing-of-terrorism-victims-in-israel

So you basically pulled your "google facts" out of your ass. Got it.
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>>720571153
kek
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>>720585734
Yeah, because the Natives didn't constantly war with each other or anything before we arrived, or attack European settlers when they first arrived.

Seriously kid, the Thanksgiving shit they taught you in Elementary School is entirely false. The Natives and the Europeans were enemies LITERALLY the instant they were aware of each other. The whole "The natives taught us how to grow crops by fertilizing the dirt with dead fish otherwise all of the pilgrims would have starved" is complete bullshit.

The Natives were a primitive and backwards people that, like any native species, got its SHIT kicked in when an aggressive invasive species showed up to claim territory.

Hell, the fact that European settlers had decency and offered gifts of metal in exchange for permission to use land for farming instead of just shooting them speaks very highly of European propriety. When the Natives then didn't understand the idea of "exclusive property rights" and routinely wandered onto farms, stealing and ruining crops, they were dealt with like any pest creature or criminal.
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>>720568661
Alright, then explain to me in detail how it'll fuck up the Texas economy.
I'll wait.
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>>720567604
>from it is southern border
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