There was a good cuck thread earlier today. Anyone got any good

>>720483092
>be me
>walking through the city
>this hot milf and daughter in law invite me in
>start fucking them in the living room
>OP walks in and sees his mom and wife on their knees taking my hot load on their faces

bumping for interest

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>>720483092
That chick got bred hard

https://soundcloud.com/goldsbrosesh/sunburns-session

>>720485877
>>720485670
Your GF? Have you been cucked by her, or just want to?

>>720486030
yes, have not been cucked by her/

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>3 years divorced
>kids live with ex and her folks
>ex starts making regular stops because I sell weed
>I’m cool with it because she can’t smoke at home
>Sometimes she has a boyfriend with her
>Eventually she starts using my place to hook up
>In time it's clear that she’s fucking a couple different guys
>I don't care. I get laid all the time and I don’t have any feel for her.
>Stops by after a night out drinking.
>Has two guys with her.
>They’re drinking and partying, one thing leads to another…
>She’s getting hammered from both ends
>She was pretty vanilla when we were married
>Now she's moaning like a whore as she gets double teamed
> Night ends, not another word and I don’t see her for a few weeks
>She calls one night and asks if she can bring some friends around.
>Same two guys, plus a third guy
>They are all over her the minute they’re in the door.
>Barely make it to the den before they have her clothes off.
>Three hours later the guys leave and she appears passed out
>I go to cover her with a blanket, I can’t help but stare
>Love bites all over, hand prints from being spanked, cum running from her gaped pussy and ass
>Then I see that she’s looking at me and she starts playing with her pussy
>I can’t take my eyes off of her
>She pleads with me to kiss her
>Her face is smeared with cum but I can’t stop myself I’ve never been so tuned on
>I kiss her and she says, “do you taste that?”
>I’m like huh?
> ”do you taste the cock on my lips?”
>I mumbled yes
>She grabs my head and kisses me deep
>”I saw you staring at my pussy, it turns me on”
>”You like me this way don’t you?”
>I can’t deny it. I’ve never been so turned on.
>”Touch my pussy..."
>I start fingering her soupy pussy
> “Do I taste like a whore when you kiss me?
>Her words are fucking with my head
>”Please lick my pussy”
>It’s like I’m hypnotized as I move down and start licking her pussy

Pic related WWYD

>>720486245
Hot copypasta but it's still copypasta

>>720486633
But it's my copypasta so there's that.

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>Be me, married for 10 years
>Close friends, married for about the same
>Both of us have good looking wives
>We started showing each other pics of our wives, nude, topless, passed out naked after drinking and then fucking, etc.
>Start to joke about swapping wives some time
>Always a joke, as no way we'd take chance of them blowing up at us about it
>Couple weeks back, decide to go out of town together for a weekend, get a two room house on Airbnb
>Over drinks, decide that when the wives pass out after sex, we'll go into each other's rooms, and get 10 minutes to look first hand, fondle, touch, etc.
>Head to bed, bang my wife, cum on her back, clean up, read on my phone until she falls asleep.
>Get text from buddy, his wife is passed out too
>Say, okay, in 5 minutes we swap rooms
>At appointed time, we pass each other in the hall, both of us have lights on in our rooms. My wife was only covered from waist down, asleep on bed, huge boobs uncovered
>I get into his room, his wife is spread eagled, totally passed out, fully nude
>Grab her boobs, smaller than my wife's but perky
>Check out her shaved pussy, nice, still wet
>Kind of roll her over, check out her ass. Nice tight asshole
>Roll her back, touch pussy again, start to finger it
>Bend down closer to get a close look, decide to take a quick lick.
>Tastes good, start licking more
>Then taste cum, decide not to do more, he creampied her
>Take some photos, see my time is come to an end
>Head back to my room, pass buddy in the hall, we high five each other
>Get back to my room, turn out the lights
>Get into bed, my wife is on her stomach, still passed out
>Lean over to kiss her while starting my hand down her back to her ass.
>Face is wet, realize there's some cum on her lips and cheek
>As I get to her pussy, it's soaking
>Get up, turn the light on
>Pull back sheets, wife's pussy is soaked with cum
>Roll her over to her back, pussy is kind of gaping

Pic related, one of the pussy pics I showed him

>>720487248
>>720486327

I would love to pour some cum into the gag she's wearing. She's hot. She into anal?

>>720487248
I'd like to destroy her credit rating

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>>720487049

>Immediately get diamonds, push her legs back, slide in, every time I slide my cock out, it’s covered in frothy cum
>Fuck for 2 minutes, then cum myself
>Next morning, she sleeps in a bit, but when she wakes up she comes out to the porch says to me, “omg anon, I had the craziest dreams last night”
>”I had a dream that you were fucking me from behind, but your cock was like huge, like porn star huge. And while you were fucking me, you had two fingers in my ass too and were just pumping me with them. I started to cum in my dream, and you pulled your fingers out and brought them up to my lips and I just took them in my mouth and started sucking. It was crazy, cuz you know I would never do that, but it was hot in the dream. After you came, you pulled your cock out and wiped it against my lips too. I was so turned on. Then it was like I woke up from the dream but not really cuz I was in another dream where you were pounding me on top of me, but your cock was back to normal and you came again really fast.”
>”When I woke up this morning, I was still so horny, I started masturbating and licking my fingers, as my pussy had so much cum in it and it tasted even better than normal. I thought you had pulled out last night, but you must have cum in me first before finishing.”

Pic related, what her pussy looked like when I rolled her over.

>>720488049
>Our friends joined us on the porch as she was finishing the story. The other wife said, “what are you two talking about?”
>My wife said, “Oh, I was just telling him about this dream I had last night where Anon had like a crazy porn star dick and was pounding me from behind.”
>My buddy laughs and says, “Must be something about this place, she (referring to his wife), woke me up with a BJ this morning, she never does that after we’ve had sex, unless I take a shower first” as his wife punches him in the arm.
>We spent the rest of the day hanging out, and I couldn’t help but notice my friend checking out my wife’s ass every time she was bent over.
>Later on, the wives were inside making lunch, he and I were outside drinking beers, and I noticed he kept smelling his fingers.
>I said, “Really man? Come on”
>He laughed and said, “I can’t help it, that was awesome. Apparently my wife thinks she tastes good too, as that was the best BJ I’ve ever gotten. Want to try it again tonight?”
>Unfortunately, the wives didn’t drink as much, so it’s been a one time thing.

>>720488143
Atleast make it somewhat beliveable

>>720488342
What part are you troubled by?

>>720488479
Well, everyhing

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>>720483092
My wife with our friend

>wife does a girls night every few weeks at at local bar/restaurant.
>I know she likes to dress up and flirt but too scared to act on it.
>last summer I paid a couple of my company interens to try and pick her up and the bar.
>free food plus $50 each, and extra $100 if you can walk out with her.
>between her friends and the two I hired wife got wasted on free drinks
>she does end up agreeing to go home with one of them as long as her friend can tag
>intern scraps the original agreement and takes my wife and her friend back to his apartment
>he shares the place with two other company interns
>best I can decipher from the random pics and her story, she was shared by at least four guys
>her pussy was so sore we had to go to the doctor and she didn't remember why until I showed he the pic of her being fisted and fucked
>?

>>720489910
Amazing. So the interns sent you pics? Still have 'em?

>>720488778

Sorry /b/ro, that's actually how it went down. The four of us always talk about sex and stuff, which is how we ultimately got to the point of sharing pics with each other.

>>720490343
Why don't you just discuss swapping with your wives directly? I'm sure they would both be down.

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Anyone interested?

>>720490529
We probably will. We've talk about it with each other a dozen times now. Clearly won't bring up the clandestine operation in which we engaged.

>>720490717
With that ass? Absolutely. What else do you have anon?

This is great, guys. Keep em coming!!

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>>720490717
very

>>720490223
Still have some. Not getting them sorry.

The catch in all this we later found out she was pregnant during this, <month. Needless to say there were some blood test to make sure who daddy was.

> she was at the apartment for most the night
>the friend tried to get my wife to leave a couple times but didn't succeed
>the friend finally gave up and drove to our house to get me up and stop my wife
>literally walked in on two guys tag teaming my wife
> she was still dressed and looked like she had fucking layers of cum on her

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>>720490859
>>720491050
The only nude I have of my gf. She doesn't like them so snuck it one day

>>720491461
Awesome - any more?

>>720491227
Fantastic story. Did the interns ever say anything else to anyone at work?

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>>720492131
Have to get sneaky to get some fap pics

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>>720492252

Any more stories, screen caps, pics?

>>720492180
Don't think the story really went anywhere. Or at least I never caught it floating around.

> the wife was looking like a fucking cheep used street whore
>I finally convince her it's time to go but she is a little pissed
> I guess one of the guys let her in on the story and that's why she agreed to go home with them
> wife fucked four guys as revenge for the prank
> got her naked, trashed her $150 dress and walked her out with just my jacket on
>she told me latter they did a few things she didn't exactly agree on but they kept her drunk the entire time

>>720490717

yeah

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Would you kiss her?

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<Now wife, then girlfriend,
<we are broken up, she was a mess but very hot...
<Drank like a sailor, always getting nekid in front of
<friends and roommates.
<She stumbles into apartment I am living at with a bro and goes to bedroom and "passes out"
<Bro goes to take a piss a little later
<doesntcomeout.jpg
<I walk the dinosaur into the bedroom and see my girlfriend laying nude, spread eagle, diddling her clit while he is jerking looking at her
< take out cock, start jerking
< She says "you can both fuck me if you want to"
<For 3 hours we fuck her every which way, but no anal
<she won't let us cum in her, but pleads we cum "on her" which we did all night
<she is now a "Friend of Bills"
<Claims she doesn't remember
<but she remembers the 3 ways with girls we had?

By Mr. X (translation from original article in German).

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is not really proper to send anonymous letters. Given the contents of this letter, everyone will understand my wish for anonymity. Nevertheless, I hope that you will read this letter completely and think about it.

In recent months, I have followed closely the debate on the topic of filtering of child pornography in Germany. There have been various suggestions about how the Internet should be censored and filtered - not only by the Federal Government (Mrs. von der Leyen and Mr. Schaeuble) but also by federal countries (such as in Lower Saxony from Mr Schünemann).

Discussions on this topic have lasted for months and have triggered a strong polemic which is also reflected in various forums. For the first time ever, I will present the "flip side" of the issue and give you an insight from the other side. I will describe controversial and possibly - from today's perspective - immoral things and technologies.

Before we begin, I want to say a few words about the legalities and myself: I will be as accurate as possible to describe the background and my involvement in this (if any) so that my statements can be verified (we know it would be illegal to give links to files or email accounts). I have included an excerpt from PCPro from the year 2007 on the Landslide case. I recommend everyone to read this report. A few words about myself: I am German, but have lived about 20 years abroad, have a background in the telecommunications sector and later a second training in the field of education. In my current country there are no laws relating to surfing, viewing, downloading and saving any type of files. For this reason, I know very precisely what is happening in the Internet because I am fully able to follow what happens. Also, I am in an unfavourable position: earlier, I was for a while strongly involved in the field of children models. From this time period I know of hundreds of pedophiles and have virtual contact with designers, programmers and operators of the sites that operate today's CP (Child pornography). I have even got to know personally some of the girls (and their families) in the famous CP sets.

In order to systematically describe the situation, I decided to do this in a theme-oriented fashion:

>>720493389
Details man - what did they do she didn't agree on?

Small reflection on the history of the industry

In the Middle Ages, when the life expectancy was still significantly lower, the puberty began later than today and adolescents in the age range 12-18 years were set up for marriage. This changed increasingly. Naked, erotically depicted boys and girls have always been in the center of the art. As photography became popular at the end of the 18th Century, also erotic act descriptions with children and young people were made. At the end of the 60s there was a magazine called Lolita, produced by the Danish company "Color Climax", that had sex between children and between children and adults as the subject.

This magazine was sold everywhere - sometimes from under the counter. Only in the 80s the magazine was discontinued due to new laws set. From the 90s, the notion of child pornography expanded ever further. In the 70s and 80s, nudist magazines such as "Young and Free," "Sunshine Friends", etc. were still perfectly legal to buy. Even artists such as David Hamilton, Jock Sturges and Sally Mann published images of naked children and adolescents, which was at the time was considered an art - even though the first voices reported this as child pornography to blame. The photographer Jacques Bourboulon got special attention because of the very erotic pictures of Eva Ionescu he made.

>>720493828
What's a friend of bills?

Posting some copypastas

I was a party with my girlfriend and she was playing beer pong with this guy. I was pretty drunk and just sitting down, he made a bet that if she lost against him she would have to play the next round topless.

Next thing she loses- because she is bad - and ends up literally taking her tits out for everyone to see. Then the guy, presumably to try his luck, bet her that if she lost against she would have to suck his dick. My girlfriend turns to me and says "I know I can win this time! What do you say?"

I thought she was joking, so I just casually replied "Yea,whatever"

Then she loses again, and this ahole says something like "Hey, a bet's a bet." and my girlfriend responds with some bullcrap like "Well I am a woman of my word." Within the space of fifteen seconds she's literally on her knees, topless, sucking this guys dick. There was nothing I could do about it.

Because of that I just turned away and pretended to see nothing / try to not look like some beta fgot. Then after a couple of minutes I hear him saying "Go, show him. Let him see" and my girlfriend taps me on the shoulder, opens her mouth full of his cum, then closes it again and swallows in front of me.

As the Internet age in the '90s began, pictures were initially exchanged via specific NNTP newsgroups. Specifically zealous fathers began even to abuse their own children and to share the pictures with others. This was nothing commercial - it was on grounds of seeking approval - these people wanted to be the biggest and got plenty of encouragement from lurkers (people that use the material in newsgroups without contributing anything themselves). Between 1996 and 1999 the first commercial offerings of nude act pitures of children and adolescents emerged. Some of these sites had quite an artistic approach, while others lacked in this regard completely. In addition to NNTP, forums emerged as a social meeting place and as a means to exchange plenty of files and links. From 2002 LS Studios was founded - a group of Ukrainian businessmen and professional photographers. Within 2 years, LS Studios had 1500 children and young people who posed naked - with the consent of their parents. The models were even recruited through TV and newspaper ads. The photo quality and professionalism exceeded anything previously published.

LS Studios published over half a million images and hundreds of videos on dozens of websites. In 2004, under the pressure of and with the help of the FBI, LS Studios was closed. The prosecution was discontinued and there was no one convicted. Since 2003 was also the heyday of a man from St. Petersburg who was known under the pseudonym Fly, Hook and Scorp. This time the pics were in much worse quality and much harder. He has a lot of models approximately between 11 and 14 years of age in front of the camera masturbating and pleased with the dildo. These images were being published in - no longer existing - sites like MyLola, Hotlols, Goldenlols, etc. In specific cases the girl even had sexual intercourse in front of a recording videocamera. What is special about this production was that he himself started very young. Being a son of a high Russian official, he had shortage of nothing. When he was still a minor he falsified documents to claim that he was an adult and with his male and female friends as models, he began the business. First he started with provocative but miserable nude act pictures that he produced for other operators (such as Pedolola, etc.) and then proceeded to defloration in front of the camera. Only at the end of 2008 he gave up the business. No, not because the police put a stop but because someone stole his money and everyone (he, the photographer and his models) lost interest as a result - since for all of them it was only a matter of money.

>>720494044
Alcoholic Anonymous Member

copy pasta from: http://uhwikiwww4e4a2fc.onion/wiki/index.php/An_insight_into_child_porn_%282009%29


The CP producer from St. Petersburg was the one who in the last year flooded the Internet with masturbation pictures and videos. I have no problems finding contacts to his models. I will only say this: there is an interesting Naturist Club in St. Petersburg called Holynature (reachable under holynature.ru). Interestingly, there are pictures of young people in Holynature.ru sometimes posing with models who are also seen in the harsh CP photos and videos ... So as I am able to successfully investigate this, the authorities should also be cabable of the same ... However, I speak many languages and have an extraordinarily good education, in particular in the technical field.

I have two stories from the other perspective, where I cucked another guy if you are interested.

At this point I have to mention the so-called Child and Non Nude Teen Modeling Sites that have been existing since the 90s. These are websites that market images and videos of children or youngsters. The quality of the images varies hugely and ranges from Webcam quality to absolute professional quality. Initially, these sites were usually run by parents and later came more and more professional operators into the picture. The pictures range, depending on the operators, from pictures in conservative clothes to very provocative poses with legs spread and erotic lingerie. About the Non Nude scene it is known that much happened behind closed doors. Many customers make offers for so-called Custom shootings - in other words pictures by request. Customers wrote scenarios, poses, and sometimes even sent clothes to them so that they can produce images specifically for this customer - at a good price. In most cases such requests also included the desire for naked pictures in unique poses - however true sexual abuse or rape was an absolute exception.

Differing legal positions

Child pornography - the word is used everywhere and nonetheless it is totally unclear what it actually describes. This is where the problem begins: there are totally different legal situations. What is considered CP in one place can be in another place perfectly legal. Even the legal description of CHILD is not regulated. In a country you are a child until you are 18 years old, in another the limit is 16 years, or as in Germany one is legally a child until one is 14 years old, after that he/she is called a young minor until he/she becomes an adult. In practice this leads to constant conflicts. Law is by no means uniform. A few years ago there were these kinds of problems with the magazine "Seventeen" in the Netherlands. When the Internet emerged, the company produced entirely legal pornography with young people aged 16. As long as this was sold in the Netherlands, it was no problem. But with the advent of the Internet Seventeen wanted to sell the pictures and videos on the internet as well. It was not long until it hit the headlines everywhere for "child pornography", especially in the USA. This became a huge political pressure on the Dutch authorities. A very similar problem seems to be, soon, with Switzerland, where this minor protection ends at the age of 16. Not to mention countries such as Japan where the age limit in some places is 13 years (the same applies in Spain). There are countries where there is no minimum age but one is entitled to have sex when married (this is often the case in Muslim countries). So here is again the question: what is child pornography? The answer may vary.

The business model

Authorities and the media write sensational reports about the proportions, the alleged threat and trillions of transactions made by the child porn industry. I will give you for the first time very accurate figures on retail sales. These figures are very accurate and I have got them from the people responsible for the bills. But first a few details about the course and consequences.

As the real Internet business emerged in the late 90s, it was very easy to enter into this business. I remember the people of Site-Key.com from St. Petersburg that did much business in 2000. They had a Delaware Corporation in the United States, a Visa and MasterCard merchant account with Card Service International in California, and they ran all the payments via the U.S. through a gateway link from Linkpoint. But there were not only Site-Key but still a lot of other vendors. One of them provided services particularly for the distributors of hardcore child pornography (CP was mostly scanned images of Lolita magazines of the 70s, nudism, nudist pictures doctored to show them pornographic, as well as pictures of fathers abusing their daughters that they had posted in newsgroups or forums). This second company (IWest) had their headquarters in Israel and did their billing through Israeli banks which were aware of the scheme (until Visa withdrew the license from some Israeli banks, some have even settled for CCBill for whom it did not matter what was paid for, the main focus being that money was moving.

Some Russian / Israeli citizens were never particularly choosy...). There was no problem to bill for any kind images, and the hosting of nude images was not a particular problem for these companies - let alone for the Non Nude Models. At this time almost 100% of the websites were hosted in the United States because it was the only place where it was affordable. The Web sites have generated such traffic, that a human being can hardly imagine how big the interest really is. I have the 2001 statistics of a website containing naked pictures of children and adolescents. During the month of June 2001, a total of 200 million visits to the site took place (this is not page views, but unique visitors but on a daily scale - it is likely that a good part of visitors this month visited the site on many days and have been counted multiple times. My estimate is that there were about 15 million unique visitors during this month). The ratio between visitors and buyers, however, is very small. The same site in June 2001 a turnover of approximately U.S. $ 60,000 made at a price of about $ 30 which is approximately 2000 customers. Even Web sites that still exist, such as Met-Art.com bought productions in 2000 with 11-14 year old girls, and everything was billed through the very serious CCBill (this series are no longer at Met-Art Journal).

After 11 September 2001, the United States was becoming increasingly unattractive for foreigners because there were so many bureucratic hurdles that it was no longer worthwhile. Billing-companies oriented themselves incresingly towards Eastern Europe and found partners such as the Alfabank that took care of the necessary Merchant contracts for a price. It must be said that groups from Belarus - specialized for years on the Internet billings - have built up systems, which can be used to invoice all this stuff (perfect money washing facilities). As LS models came onto the market, they have developed their own credit card payment system.LS was in 2003-2004 the world's biggest studio providers of photographs and videos from erotica with children and young people including close-ups of genitals and breasts (but no sex) - typical for Softcore pornography. The girls were from all walks of life, participated completely voluntarily, and usually with the blessing of the parents to take photographs. The most popular girls have been posing repeatedly for years

I never bought any of that "size matters" crap until my junior year in college. I lived in the dorms with two roommates, David and John. David was a pretty ordinary looking guy, kinda quiet - but John was tall, lean, muscular and (according to him anyway) was hung like a bull. He used to joke about it a lot - even around my girlfriend, Amy. Amy was a sophomore and was petite, shy and somewhat quiet. I didn't like it when John would make his "big dick" comments and jokes around Amy, but she told me she didn't pay any attention to him and truth be told, she really couldn't stand John.

I have a 5.5" dick and with Amy being so petite, it always seemed to do the trick. I was only the third guy she'd ever been with and only her second boyfriend - maybe my guard was just down but who knows.

Anyway, one Friday night, Amy and I were hanging out in my dorm room drinking, smoking some weed and watching TV. David and John had both gone home for the weekend - or so we thought. At about 1AM (Amy and I were pretty toasted by then), John walked in. He'd ended up hanging out with some of his friends off campus and had decided to just drive home in the morning since his parents only lived about an hour and a half away.

He could see that Amy and I were both pretty hammered. He grabbed a beer and sat down and we smoked somem more weed with him. Amy was pretty drunk and started giving John ****. John seemed to get a kick out of it and I could see him kinda flirting with Amy. Then I noticed (and hoped that Amy wouldn't) that John wasn't wearing any underwear.

(some even until 2007, long after the collapse of LS Studios) and everyone who has seen these pictures can see that these girls like to be in the pictures and have had fun during the recordings (it is finally time time that someone says this as it really is, even if it seems to disturb some). LS studios had countless sites such as LS Land, Fantasy LS, LS Magazine, etc., and sold to the best studios around 1500 LS entrances on the day for about 40 USD. That makes a daily turnover of approximately USD 60,000 and a monthly turnover of approximately USD 1.8 million, annual sales of approximately 21.6 million USD. Mind you, this is the total turnover. For the payment of the 1500 models, personnel, the various sites, their own studios to create clothes and backgrounds, shares of the Bank and the crazy traffic costs and the server accounted for about 1 to 1.3 million monthly costs. The operator got the profit, about half a million per month. SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Ukrainian_child_pornography_raids

>>720494516
But Amy started massaging my dick through my jeans and being so ****ed up, I just laid my head back and enjoyed it - I couldn't believe she was doing that right in front of John! I heard John get up to pass Amy the joint we were smoking and I heard her gasp, long and deep and she suddenly stopped stroking my dick. I opened my eyes and saw John standing righ tin front of Amy with a HUGE ****ing bulge in his pants - just inches from her face. The room was so quiet you could have heard a pin drop.

He just stood there and I could feel her hand tremble and hear her breathing quicken. when she slowly looked up at him, almost in awe and respect, I could feel my heart start to pound in my chest. Then she softly whispered "ohhhhhhhhhhh" as she gingerly reached up to brush her finger tips across that massive knot in his pants. When she touched it, it throbbed - **** I could see it throb thorugh his pants - Amy just gasped again and looked up at him.

"What?" John asked her and just kinda laughed. Amy did NOT laugh. Instead, she softly asked "can i see it?" John stopped laughing, looked at her very seriously and told her to take it out. Amy never even hesitated - or looked back at me for an "OK" - just just obeyed him and began to open his jeans. I coudl see her nipples rock hard under her t-shirt and I could tell she was practically panting.

The money could be perfectly washed through Riga or Vilnius. Today mostly English offshore LTD's are used with bank accounts in offshore banks such as the Griffon Bank (an example). Until today, many operators have their accounts at banks such as Parex under false names to which they receive money transfers and from which they can withdraw money by credit card at any ATM. The commercial supply of child pornography is very limited. There are tens of thousands of child pornographic websites. Many of these sites serve as advertising and lead to the same commercial site. There are a plethora of free sites that always post the same pictures, very often from the '70s or known sets that perverted fathers have done with their children and then published. No sign of an uncomprehensibly large business, let alone of alleged trillion USD of revenues.

>>720494583
>>720494583
She opened his jeans and his big thick dick just fell out...and he had NOT been kidding. That cock was strong, thick, heavy and muscular. The head was a big purple mushroom that sat on top of the thickest shaft i'd ever seen. He was semi-hard and was HUGE compared to me. Amy just gasped and kept whispering "ohmygod..ohmygod...ohmygod". When she wrapped her hand around it, her brow just knotted in disbelief and she almost laughed at how thick he was - her fingers couldn't even touch.

John just stood there watching my girlfriend worship his magnificent cock. Slowly shaking her head in disbelief, she two-fisted him - one hand next to the other...and there was STILL a few inches left - and he was getting rock hard, too.

Amy smiled and patted the couch next to her and John sat down, his cock standing straight up. Honestly he had to be almost 10" (judging from the size of Amy's hand). I opened my pants and took my own cock out. Amy took my cock in her left hand and John's in her right - but there was little doubt whose cock was getting more attention. She couldn't take her eyes off his cock and her hand only occasionally stroked my dick...but John's she pumped with long, purposeful strokes until she finally couldn't help herself any longer and knelt in front of him, kissing his cock and rubbing it against her soft pale skin.

>>720494587
Also in the field of Non Nude Modeling there were sensational reports of sales by millions. Again, I had direct access behind the scenes. One of the largest operators in 2004 was AMS or AModelShop. These websites were from Salt Lake City operated by ... a TV-celebrity called Matthew Duhamel with his server administrator Charles Graner that had a hosting company and carried out the operations and billings for the whole Non Nude Modeling Webmaster. Duhamel produced images of some models himself but he bought most productions all over the world. They were mostly girls from 9 to 13 years in sexy, erotic clothes such as Pumps, High Heels, Hotpants, etc. In case the website of Sierra Model (which ultimately brought down the case Duhamel) was a pubescent girl whose mother made and offered very provocative pictures on a site. End users also have ordered specific sets of the daughter directly from the mother where practically nude pictures were taken in exciting poses. With the pictures they made good money and even the daughter was so thrilled that she started skipping school. Thus, the ball got rolling: the school alerted the authorities, etc. At that time AMS was one of the largest shops in the area of Non Nude Modeling, and provocative images with the most customers. The turnover was around 35'000-40'000 USD per month, and generated a monthly profit of approximately 20,000 USD.

>>720494627
>>720494627
She sucked his dick until SHE came - just from sucking him! I stroked the whole time until he pulled her toward him, peeled off her pants (she didnt even make the slightest attempt to stop him) and sat her on his lap, her back to his chest - the two of them right next to me. She just rolled her head back to kiss him as he squeezed her tits through her shirt. Her hands went down and pushed that big cock against her pussy and she groaned so loud when it touched her that I thought people outside would hear.

John's dick was so ****ing big that he easily penetrated her from behind with her sitting on his lap. She arched up so she could take as much of it as she could and they started to **** right there next to me. It shocked me how easily her petite little body accomodated that horse cock of his. John pounded her in positions that i physically CANNOT do for over an hour - I have no idea how many times she came - she was even in tears a few times (though she never once told him to stop).

He asked her if she was on the pill and when she said she was on the patch, he told her that he was going to cum inside of her to mark her - which only made her cum again! when he finally came, he had Amy on her back, her legs shaking violently as they both came together - and true to his word, John dumped his seed deep up inside my girlfriend's pussy right in front of me. But **** - he didn't even lose his damn hard on! They ****ed for about another 40 minutes and he came twice more. Amy was a wreck by the time we all went to bed.

>>720494667
>>720494667
I will never forget the look on her face - like she was afraid of him and in love with him all at once - the whole time they ****ed. She later told me that there were no words to describe it - it was incredible but even that didn't seem enough. To my knowledge they never ****ed again and Amy and I dated for about another year before we finally broke up. I always wondered if she ended up with him or some other big dick guy.

But one thing I know for sure - she NEVER ****ed me like she did John and the things she said about John - the way she looked at him - and the way she was around him after that night (almost shy and meek) convinced me that a big dick makes a difference.

Amy told me that she "HAD to respect him" even if she didn't like him...and that she almost felt like he "had a right to her". So there ya go.

>>720494631
Approx. 2003 and especially 2004, the business became more difficult to operate. In Germany jugendschutz.net and the Telemedia Act were created to protect children and adolescents. The first countries such as Denmark began to censor sites, hosting providers were immediately alerted and servers closed. Domain Registrars began to simply close domains - when the contents of a website was objectionable - despite the fact that the domain was paid for properly (which I believe to be an outrageous breach of the law because the domain registrar closed domains on its sole discretion and without judicial order and proper proof even when they did not contain any illegal material - one of the worst is GoDaddy dot com). Many countries have introduced laws which made such sites illegal. The result was that more and more such sites went into the underground.

>>720494696
Back in 2000 in Russia there was a forum called DARKMASTERS (earlier darkmasters.com, then darkmasters.info) where all parties involved in the porn shops did business with each other. You have to treat this as a marketplace where anyone could offer his/her services. In the course of that time all those involved in the Russian Internet business got there together. It does not matter what kind of business one was involed in, everything was welcome. Of adult porn to animal and child porn, everything was sold and marketed on this platform. Everyone offered their services: photographers, webmasters, programmers, designers and job applicants. Certain groups such as the so-called Lolita webmasters were ostracized by the Adult Webmasters - there were conflicts. Since pornography is illegal in Russia and all Eastern Bloc countries, it played no role in whether you are a only ittle bit illegal or a little bit more. Over the years, a combination of individual skills took place. Due to the increasing problems caused by censorship, hosting, billing and marketing, the various groups became more specialized and began working together. The best programmers and server administrators from Eastern Europe came together, mixed with the best document falsifiers, Carders (credit card fraud specialist), spammers and hackers who wrote and distributed the rootkits, viruses and trojans for years. And for special cases, the Russian organized crime was called to help in exceptional cases where one wanted the authorities to be more active to push an unwanted competitor out of the way, or to kill an idiot who couldn't keep their mouth shut. Even if the reality between webmasters was sometimes very dangerous, I was not aware of any violence against children and adolescents.

>>720494734
During the years this combination of skills has resulted in the most ingenious schemes I have ever seen in my life. It is beyond the skills of BKA, FBI, and certainly politicians who don't even know of such systems, let alone understand them. It is outrageous naiveté with which politicians speak of things of which they do not have the slightest clue. All the more frightening, however, is how much they use child pornography as a tool to write headlines and create populist slogans and as a means to justify more monitoring even though it is clear that the system established will very quickly be used for very different purposes than (unsuccessful) child porn filtering. Among the operators, there are two types: those mostly from Western Europe and North America are catched relatively quickly because they don't have the slightest clue. These are the people who appear in big headlines when they are caught. But there are, however, other varieties comprising the best-trained server administrators, programmers and hackers. There is a direct collaboration between programmers who write the special Trojans and rootkits, hackers who command the Bot Nets and infected computers (zombies) as well as spammers who send their mail via the Bot Nets of the hacker.
The technology of today

>>720494765
An essential part of today's commercial child pornography is now hosted in Germany and distributed from Germany. If this is for you a shock, then I will explain how this works, and the authorities can do absolutely nothing except for the stupid ideas people muck:

>>720494801
Today's schemes are technologically very demanding and extremely complex. It starts with the renting of computer servers in several countries. First the Carders are active to obtain the credit cards and client identities wrongfully. These data are then passed to the falsifiers who manufacture wonderful official documents so that they can be used to identify oneself. These identities and credit card infos are then sold as credit card kits to operators. There is still an alternative where no credit card is needed: in the U.S. one can buy so-called Visa or MasterCard gift cards. However, these with a certain amount of money charged Visa or MasterCard cards usually only usable in the U.S.. Since this anonymous gift cards to buy, these are used to over the Internet with fake identities to pay. Using a false identity and well-functioning credit card servers are then rented and domains purchased as an existing, unsuspecting person. Most of the time an ID is required and in that case they will simply send a forged document. There is yet another alternative: a payment system called WebMoney (webmoney.ru) that is in Eastern Europe as widespread as PayPal in Western Europe. Again, accounts are opened with false identities. Then the business is very simple in Eastern Europe: one buys domains and rents servers via WebMoney and uses it to pay.

>>720494834
As soon as the server is available, a qualified server admin connects to it via a chain of servers in various countries with the help of SSH on the new server. Today complete partitions are encrypted with TrueCrypt and all of the operating system logs are turned off. Because people consider the servers in Germany very reliable, fast and inexpensive, these are usually configured as HIDDEN CONTENT SERVERS. In other words, all the illegal files such as pictures, videos, etc. are uploaded on these servers - naturally via various proxies (and since you are still wondering what these proxies can be - I'll explain that later). These servers are using firewalls, completely sealed and made inaccessible except by a few servers all over the world - so-called PROXY SERVERs or FORWARD SERVERs. If the server is shut down or Someone logs in from the console, the TrueCrypt partition is unmounted. Just as was done on the content servers, logs are turned off and TrueCrypt is installed on the so-called proxy servers or forward servers. The Russians have developed very clever software that can be used as a proxy server (in addition to the possibilities of SSL tunneling and IP Forwarding). These proxy servers accept incoming connections from the retail customers and route them to the content Servers in Germany - COMPLETELY ANONYMOUSLY AND UNIDENTIFIABLY. The communication link can even be configured to be encrypted. Result: the server in Germany ATTRACTS NO ATTENTION AND STAYS COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS because its IP is not used by anyone except for the proxy server that uses it to route the traffic back and forth through a tunnel - using similar technology as is used with large enterprise VPNs. I stress that these proxy servers are everywhere in the world and only consume a lot of traffic, have no special demands, and above all are completely empty.

>>720494860
Networks of servers around the world are also used at the DNS level. The DNS has many special features: the refresh times have a TTL (Time To Live) of approximately 10 minutes, the entries usually have multiple IP entries in the round robin procedure at each request and rotate the visitor to any of the forward proxy servers. But what is special are the different zones of the DNS linked with extensive GeoIP databases ... Way, there are pedophiles in authorities and hosting providers, allowing the Russian server administrators access to valuable information about IP blocks etc. that can be used in conjuction with the DNS. Each one who has little technical knowledge will understabd the importance and implications of this... But what I have to report to you is much more significant than this, and maybe they will finally understand to what extent the public is cheated by the greedy politicians who CANNOT DO ANYTHING against child pornography but use it as a means to justify total monitoring.

>>720494893
But how, specifically, child pornography is sold? As the operators cannot resort to door to door knocking and market their sites this way, they had to work out other ways to sell. There used to be links in forums, toplist, advertisements in newsgroups, etc. Today, the answer is SPAM. The revenue from the child porn business are divided into 40-60% for the payment processor and the bank (percentage rate will depend on how hard the material is), 20% of the operator and 20% of the marketers (in this case, spammers). Spammers use millions of email addresses of interested people - the lists of earlier payment processors they have. But hackers have also obtained huge client lists of large companies and sold the email addresses to spammers.In order to send spam trojan-infected (zombie) computers are used. But zombie computers have yet another use: it will be used in a targeted fashion to steal identities. They even use the computer of the user whose identity is stolen to conduct credible transactions such as purchase of domains, etc. But that is not everything: the installed Trojans are sometimes used as a SOCKS proxy to upload CP. The Russians have even worked out a schema to use infected computer as a network combing these infected computers (each computer would be part of a huge, redundant cluster) as a kind of huge, distributed and remote servers can be (a kind of Freenet Project, however, by using infected computers as the nodes). I want to make one thing clear: if you have an email address, there is a possibility that there is child pornography on your computer because you have received CP advertising. And if your computer is not 100% safe against Trojans, viruses and rootkits, there is the possibility that your computer is part of the vast child pornography network.

>>720494920
Same as for the content servers, logging is turned off on the proxy and forwarding servers, residing in Truecrypt containers. The Russians have developed very clever software for proxy servers (in addition to the possibility of SSL tunneling and IP Forwarding). This proxy accepts incoming connections from the customers which are then tunneled to the Content Server in Germany - completely anonymous and unidentifiable. The link can even be configured for encryption. Result: the server in Germany NEVER APPEARS PUBLICALLY AND STAYS completely anonymously because he never appears with its IP except to the proxy servers that are configured to send the traffic back and forth like through a tunnel - using similar technology like large enterprise VPNs. I stress that this proxy servers are installed everywhere in the world and only consume a lot of traffic, have no special demands, and above all are completely unused.

>>720494945
At the DNS level there also is a network of servers around the world. The DNS has many special features: the refresh times have a TTL (Time To Live) of approximately 10 minutes, the entries usually have multiple IP entries in a round robin procedure, and at each request rotates the visitor to any of the forward proxy server. But the real specials are the different zones of the DNS with extensive GeoIP databases linked to it ... Also, there are pedophiles in authorities and hosting providers, allowing the Russians server administrators access to valuable information about IP blocks that was built into the DNS database. For everyone with a little technical knowledge it is extremely important to understand the implications of this... But what I will have to report is much more significant than this, and maybe they will finally say to what extent the public is being twitted and cheated by the greedy politicians against child pornography that can not do anything about it, but make into the means to an end, justifying State surveillance.

>>720495039
In recent years I have watched as authorities - due to a lack of knowledge (and motivation) - and judges (due to ignorant shirtsigtedness) have wrongly suspected and very often also convicted thousands of people. There were fathers destroyed, families ruined, and people event committed suicide. Masses of accused people have even admitted guilt (although innocent) in order to avoid public humiliation in a court and additional damages resulting from it. One of the first big story was the alias of Landslide Operation Ore case. Allegedly 70,000 users had purchased child pornography from Landslide. The only ones that were really pleased were the Russians. Landslide had nothing to do with child pornography. But because Landslide developed a portal where also money was transferred, the Russian operators had opened accounts frequently and then tried to sell child pornography under these accounts. The manager of Landslide was extremely naive and did not have enough control over the accounts, payment processing and fraud. He did not notice that several credit cards were charged more than once, that client IPs did not match with the issuing bank, etc. - the CEO of Landslide was himself the victim of a gigantic fraud. The fact is that the CP operators had made a deal with the Russian Carders who got their credit cards and identities from the U.S. mafia (more specific information is given in the accompanying article from PC Pro). Under these CP accounts thousands of scammed and stolen (with the help of a trojan) credit cards were used so they brought the company Landslide insane revenues. But they were all stolen credit cards. Since it was already too late for Landslide and for thousands of innocent people, this meant the end of family life, loss of employment and even the end of any hope that led to a subsequent suicide. Much worse is that the U.S. police manipulated the website of Landslide AFTERWARDS (this is best described in PCPro).

>>720495071
Where and how abuse happens

I have pretty much faced everything what is happening on the Internet regarding this theme. But the gruesome images of crying, raped and even tortured children do not come from commercial producers. They come not from third parties but from bestial fathers and mothers of the children that do this to them. Most are fathers with incestuous tendencies who meet in forums and chats. One begins to make and distribute images, perhaps initially only depicting the naked child - Then, the masturbating child, then the child being raped, and perhaps the child in a forced Sadomaso game. Each parent goes always a little further because he/she always has to offer a little more than the predecessor. In other words, the violent abuse takes place almost always in the family. By publication of these pictures they end up in the Internet. Again the Russians collect the material and publish it on commercial websites.

>>720495110
I see and make a clear distinction between violent and voluntary even though it may sound outrageous. But one who has ever seen the images, can quickly distinguish them. Ever since child pornography has been exchanged on the Internet, pictures that were the cruelest have originated from people that belong to the family circle. They publish the images out of self-promotion and totally free - it is simply an "outbidding" for the atrocities one can do to their own child. The Russians fish pretty much everything on the internet and then publish those images along with images from the 70s into commercial sites. The productions were made by third parties for commercial purposes (such as the LS Studios pictures, etc.) are always made voluntarily. You see the kids grinning a big fun in front of the camera. I know some of these children are now teenagers or have even reached the age of majority. Many regret that they no longer can be models and did not understand why they suddenly no longer were photographed. Even tougher pictures from St. Petersburg show girls in their first voluntary sexual experimentation. Also there you can see that for the girls it is a game and that they had fun. I know that in most cases the mother was informed and that she allowed the daughter to participate. Nobody has suffered, no one has been forced and these were free decisions - why cannot the society simply accept this fact? Even money was not always the driving force. There were certainly girls from very good homes that had no shortage of money. But they had a passion for voyeurism, naked posing, etc. at a very young age (which you can see today with the phenomenon of "Sexting" where children and young people share very provocative pictures with each other, according to reports up to 20% of young people make and share this kind of pictures)

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damn spammer, is this the new spidey thread raid?

/sage

>>720495141
It is first and foremost the media that writes sensational headlines about child pornography and sexual abuse. The most qualified clinical psychotherapists know that the public fuss is often much worse than any actual experience (children and young people are practically conditioned to be victims even though they have very different feelings about the experience). Approx. 15-20% of my female acquaintances had first sexual experiences at age 11 to 13 years, many of them with a much older partner. By law, this was absolutely illegal but by her feelings it was absolutely correct and remained in the best memories. But if such a story was presented in public, then a victim would be fabricated even though the "victim" does not perceive herself as such (but he/she MUST feel like a victim to live up to social norms - which is what the psyche is really made to do). A now-deceased Belgian psychoanalyst has also analyzed the phenomenon of so-called White marches and reactions of the public on child abuse. He came to very interesting results. Could it be that each of us harbours an unconscious, dark and unbearable desire for the child that one can "unload" by expressing and projecting anger towards a pedophile monster? Why is the public so eager to know EVERYTHING about cases of child abuse? The public leeches every perverse detail of such a story and the sensational media makes an excellent business. The most insidious of the whole subject of child pornography is the public discussion about things the speaker only has ideas about but has never seen. Each sensationalist presentation is allowed and there are no limits to it, and these presentations can be abused to achieve various objectives. It is not acceptable to tackle the issue with facts without getting charged for a criminal offense in Germany. It is like the ultimate indictment where no defense is allowed. It can be used for everything and every purpose.

>>720495172
In the name of the child

For years, I hear and read how kids supposedly are so immature. I have worked close to children and youth for many years and found that children and young people know much better what they want (or not) as is ascribed to them. The entire discussion concerning [criminal?] accountability is a testimony to this. In Germany, this is at 14 years. When one wants to blame children and young people, then they are never too young to be held responsible. When it comes to the ability to make sexual decisions, then they are never old enough. This is an incredible impudence and discrimination in the political debate. When a child is old enough to accept responsibility for an offense, then it is also old enough to accept responsibility for his feelings and his body. What a child needs is a strong protection against violence. And usually it comes not from strangers and pedophiles but from parents that are - despite the prohibition of corporal punishment - quick to use the belt [to beat the child]. The real figure of beaten and physically abused children in Germany is much higher than that of any victims of sexual abuse. By the way, you have to really think about the word abuse. The term abuse cannot exist without the notion of "proper use". Is there a sexual "proper use" of children and adolescents?

>>720495212
Child protection has become a real industry. There are numerous organizations dedicated to the protection of the child - their administration, programs and staff must be funded - which means many job opportunities. I am particularly worried about the relationships between large and politically important global organizations such as the National Center for Missing & Exploited Kids and fundamentalist-totalitarian-oriented religious groups. If you visit their website (www.missingkids.com) there is a CYBERTIPLINE. There is an opportunity to select a REPORTING CATEGORY. Under "Unsolicited Obscene Material Sent to a Child", there is a link to www.obscenitycrimes.org. This organization is, in turn, operated by Morality in Media, Inc. and is an essential partner of the Center. I quote here a few of the interesting arguments that this organization wants to spread and enforce (below, I have collected arguments from various pages in www.obscenitycrimes.org):

The police must do God's work (ie. the police becomes the executive branch of the Bible)
Pornography leads to violence and must be banned
Pornography leads to homosexuality and child abuse
Sexuality in marriage must be regulated (oral, anal and masturbation are against nature and are punishable)
Homosexuality should be criminalized
Adultery must be punishable
Adulterers are predetermined to abuse children

>>720495239
I stop here because otherwise I would burst with anger and bloodthirst. I noticed that these are the same religious fundamentalists that welcomed cruel punishment on children with rods, whips, etc. based on Bible verses such as Hebra 12:6-7 or 1 Book of Kings 12:13-14 and 12:18. The Western world hardly has to worry about the Talibans but more about Christian fundamentalists crawling in through the back door of "Child protection".

>>720495266
The National Center for Missing & Exploited Kids (NCMEC) is almost globally conducting strong, secret lobbying activities and has a major influence on virtually all European governments, including the EU and in particular the UK. This organization is becoming more and more important and is strongly pushing a political agenda in Europe, although the organization is located in the U.S. There are interesting articles on the topic which come up when you search for NCMEC in Google. You will soon notice the immense power this organization has received - even outside the USA. I am not afraid of terrorists but of the child protection lobby. This is much more ominous, insidious, and is directly linked to the interests of Christian religious fundamentalists. The NCMEC is, moreover, also intertwined with the American broadcaster NBC which has broadcasted the series "To Catch a Predator" - a prime-time show where alleged child abusers are caught in front of the camera. In the show the police officers impersonate children and suggest meetings with the adults...

>>720495303
But that's not all. A few months ago, I stumbled upon a new web site, hosted at DreamHost Web Hosting California. It showed suggestive images of Masha Allen, a Russian girl adopted by an American pedophile. Over the years, she was not only his daughter but also his lover. The photos made rounds around the globe. The father was finally identified and jailed and the girl was readopted by a woman from Georgia. Masha Allen has massively greedy lawyers. They have left up this website with suggestive pictures of Masha. They offer the option to purchase a subscription to get access to more pictures ... Whoever was lured by this stunt, not only received an immediate visit by the police but also was threatened by a civil action in the American style - in other words faced multi-million claims so that the person has to spend rest of their life paying to the lawyers of Masha Allen who charge enourmous fees and give the rest to Masha Allen. A nice business model, isn't it?

>>720495325
But it gets worse: the New York state prosecutor Cuomo has started negotiations with the private company Media Defender (Anti-P2P Piracy Solutions) in California to look for people that exchange child pornography via the P2P networks. The aim, therefore, is to give the task of evidence collection and denunciation of Internet users to a company in the private sector. According to U.S. law, the company itself is not allowed to search specifically for child pornography, but this does not bother the U.S. prosecutor - ultimately it is for a good cause, isn't it? Media Defender is also a company with strong connections to film and music industry - it is the same company that pushed the conviction of children downloading music illegally on the Internet.

SOURCE: http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2007/09/mediadefender_police

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Semi-cucked.

> relationship is on the outs
> haven't had sex in over a month
> gf wants to reignite things
> suggests bondage
> I have to go first apparently
> binds my wrists and ankles behind my back and linked together
> doesn't seem like a very sexy position
> she teases "try to escape"
> I can't..
> her facial expression shifts "good"
> leaves the room and I hear a muffled phone call with some giggling
> she comes back and starts packing her shit
> *dafuq.jpg*
> about 15min later of trying to get her to talk there's a knock on the door
> she leaves the bedroom I hear more giggling
> in walks this wigger chad who laughs at me
> I'm furious but immobile
> "anon.. We're over" is all she says
> chad wigger starts making out with her
> I'm furious.. Crying.. Shaking..
> have no idea why she is sp malicious
> I watch her suck this guys cock for a few minutes then blow me a kiss
> an hour after they left my brother shows up
> she texted that we had broken up and he needed to help me (thanks bitch)

Seriously hate women so much.. Trust issues like fucking Jupiter huge.

>>720495354
The United States is a respected democracy that over the years has permitted the use of torture - all this for a good cause and for the protection of the society. A prison society is growing quickly and is operated by the private sector. Approximately 2% of the population is serving a sentence, most of them in a prison. Private prison operators are even traded on the stock market and they are known to be very profitable and sustainable as more and more prisons are built and more and more people are put into prison (the amount of people in prison increases each year by 4%). "Producing" convicted criminals HAS BECOME A HIGHLY PROFITABLE INDUSTRY and more and more criminals have to be produced so that the money keeps coming. There are credible rumors of bribes from operators of the prison to the judges and prosecutors - they pay premiums for so-called new convictions that result in a prison stay. So you don't have to be so picky in any investigation, let alone employ qualified officers - this way there is always sufficient supply of people to put in prison - AND ESPECIALLY YOU HAVE TO CRIMINALIZE A LOT OF THINGS. Now, at this point, the reader should pause and do a little reflection on their part, and let this go once more through their brain. Beautiful, great democracy. SOURCE: http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0727506220071007

>>720495386
And because everything is pushed in the name of protecting the child, these children and young people feel better. Or do they? Oh, I forgot to mention something: the laws for the protection of children and adolescents are now used against them in many countries. Exactly, you did not misread that. This happens especially in the Ango-Saxian countries like the USA and the UK. Children who discover sexuality are arrested, convicted as pedophiles (!). Young lovers send pictures in which they wear nothing but underwear or even less - the so-called SEXTING. If the images end up in the public domain, this usually becomes disastrous for the youngsters. There are countless documented cases where both young people were convicted because of CHILD PORNOGRAPHY. There are also relations of minors with adults: a 17-year-old girl with a 18-year-old boy, for example. One such case is known to me from Ohio, where a 15-year-old girl was arrested and put in the prison was because she refused to testify against her 18-year-old boyfriend so that he could be convicted as a child abuser (because the parents of the girls have denounced him - he did not fit the taste of Mom and Dad. In one comment the parents said it is right that their daughter is sitting in prison because she did not want to charge his boyfriend). The laws allegedly made for protection of children and adolescents are increasingly used to criminalize and control the sexuality of children and adolescents - with the prosecution used even against the children and young people themselves. Interestingly, we come again to my earlier observation: children and young people are good enough to be punished, even convicted. But sexually they are totally immature and dumb. SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28679588/

>>720495410
In Great Britain the situation is not much better. Based on the theory that abuse victims become abusers themselves, the British government launched a database to identify all victims with the purpose of putting such persons under monitoring because they are under general suspicion, as former victims of abuse sometimes become abusers. The victims are now suspects themselves and are monitored as potential criminals. Since the end of 2008 there is (again) a new database with the purpose of collecting information about every child in the UK and their development in order to observe signs of abuse. I wonder just how long it will take until one of these databases leaks somewhere, or even gets lost in traffic - as has already happened with other UK databases. Should such a database fall into the hands of the Russians, they would again have solid content for new websites.

>>720495440
Based on my descriptions so far it should be clear to anyone sensible reading this that filtering and censorship make absolutely no sense. The Russians are well-informed about countries such as Denmark and Sweden and know which sites are on the blacklists and how the filtering systems work. A few weeks ago, a strictly secret blocking list appeared on the Internet at: http://scusiblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dkfichse_15012009txt.sorted

>>720495468
It is the blacklist of 15 January 2009 from Denmark. As you can see, these lists are very confidential ... If you are looking for child pornography is, you should send the Danish police a thank-you letter for the hot tips. But what is immediately obvious is that this list does not contain only illegal child pornography sites. I have not, of course, checked all domains. Most of these have been defunct since times immemorial (but they are still listed - this will surely make next owner of the domain happy if the domain is ever purchased again). It is worth noting that some sites with flat-chested adult models are blocked. Even some gay sites are listed, or sites that have adult models that look young (even sites participating in a proof-of-age program and operating within the EU). I wonder, therefore, on what legal basis these adult sites with verifiably adult (but young-looking) models are put on the blocklist and even more how the discrimination of these models as adults is justified. Since it is not justifiable, only mendacious arguments can be used: A job for the anti-constitutional Mrs. von der Leyen, Mr. Schaeuble or Schünemann. They use the tax money for this purpose and to pay themselves big fat pensions in the future.

>>720495494
As I have written so far, the whole promotion of child pornography is done via spam (or publisheded list of domains blocked by the police :-). The spam mails sometimes also come with images. Even if you do not read the emails and everything ends up in junk folders there is still the possibility that child pornography images are saved on the hard drive. A different situation is when the computer has become infected and is a zombie - then all doors are, so to speak, open and the computer can even be used for the active dissemination of child pornography. Those who buy child pornography find links in the spam ads - most of them will lead to portals. On these portals, but also in forums and newsgroups, there will be advertisements for security solutions that enable you to evade tracing AND FILTERING. There are commercial offerings for foreign, uncensored DNS servers but also for VPN solutions (eg www.strongvpn.com). In these VPN solutions an encrypted tunnel is established between the client and a server without logs, and under a false identity somewhere in the world - the connection may even go through more countries.

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Even if the (impossible) suggestion of Mr. Schünemann was implemented, there would be absolutely simple methods to circumvent it. Since Server 2008 Microsoft came out, there is virtualization. There are commercial offers where no child pornography is actually bought but a virtual workstation is a leased on which there is a great gift: a workstation full of videos and files ... The connection can be established very quietly via Windows Remote Desktop or VNC. No files are trasmitted between the computer of the customer and the server - only keyboard commands and screen content - usually in encrypted form and without the slightest trace about what you have viewed. Since the screen of a computer located e.g. in Russia can be displayed on a PC in germany, the customer will automatically bypass any filtering, censorship and surveillance by the German government. Well, the distributors of child pornography can even calmly sell virtual machines - against which Visa and MasterCard certainly will have nothing ... When the customer then connects to the virtual computer, he finds a nice file that is nothing else than a TrueCrypt Container for which he also received the password to open it. The container can also calmly sit on his home computer after transfer and because nobody knows what it is, he remains just a user like millions of others. The Russians have been producing complete solutions for about 4 years. In these case the business will not run dry. But the German government will spend the money of taxpayers and the economy for the irrational and expensive systems.